I rarely come here. I wanted to get a temperature check, so to speak. I know Nolan has the Odyssey coming out and everything, so I want to be clear that this is not political. I don't care about black people or really short female to male transexuals taking the roles of men.Okay so, Christopher Nolan movies are really bad, right? I'm not imagining this? I want to ask a bunch of obvious questions, like how did he even get famous, or how does he get funding, etc., but I know I could research all of that on my own and I'd probably get some answers I could predict, like he comes from a wealthy family or something.I really just want confirmation that I'm not crazy. His movies are ranked very highly and I do not grasp why. Everything he does feels big, empty, and sterile. His scripts feel like they're written by children, and the direction he gives his actors either matches that, or its just the bad writing that makes it seem like all the actors get bad direction. His movies really, really bad. The Batman movies are especially terrible. When I see Christopher Nolan in interviews, I'm blown away by how such a pompous sounding man fails the stereotype. His work is not even remotely pretentious. It just sucks really hard.God, Christopher Nolan blows. Christopher, if you're reading this, what the fuck, dude? You really suck at making movies. Please stop.
>>220534882>Okay so, Christopher Nolan movies are really bad, right?Nope.
>>220534882>I rarely come here.I can tell. People shit on this talentless hack all the time.
>>220535084Oh, thank god. Thanks.
>>220535243I lied btw
>>220534882Yes. Everything post Insomnia (maybe Batman Begins) has been soulless fart huffery of the highest degree. Technically competent but lacking humanity and shockingly poorly paced and plotted at times. I'm not sure how much of this is down to his directorial skills or his supporting cast like his screenwriters and editors, but most of his movies suffer very similar flaws.
>>220534882>Christopher, if you're reading this
no you're right his movies are all shit
>>220534968fpbp
>>220534882>temperature checkEither AI post or ESL.
>>220535469Can you expand on why that would signal either?
>>220534882A certain type of millenial dude latched onto him. His movies make loads of money despite them being slightly less mainstream in attitude. Zoomers don’t seem to care about him all that much.
>>220535561to be fair, zoomers only seem to care about TikTok shit and ecelebs, not films in general
>>220534882>Okay so, Christopher Nolan movies are really bad, right? I'm not imagining this?No you're not imagining it. I have never like Christopher Nolan or his films. All his movies are pure slop that people only like for the soundtrack or one actors performance. He and his brother are horrible directors.
>>220534882It's all in your head basically.
>>22053488224 year old me liked Batman Begins.27 year old me liked The Dark Knight30 year old me thought Dark Nut Rises was badI went back and rewatched them all. All Batman movies and the Nolan Films are worse than the Schumacher Batman movies. I couldn’t believe how much better Batman Forever is than what I remembered as a teen on the 90shttps://youtu.be/hDd2G_V1rzc
The Dark Knight is just a compilation of Jokers failed attempts to get Batman
>>220535596his brother helped create person of interest, right? that was like the only show in the last 15 years i liked enough to watch from beginning to end.
if you think prestige is a bad movie you objectively have no taste and should never comment on any form of art
>>220534882Nolan basically took the big WB money and hired every British actor he ever wanted to work with and made a Batman trilogy. If you know British cinema then you will literally see hundreds of aging British actors in every scene. Nolan just wanted to meet and work with them all. Obviously people like Gary Oldman and Liam got a lot of screen time. But there are a lot more if you look closely.
I liked The Prestige for the subject matter not for Nolans fartsy smartsy hack filmaking. lets just say it was no The Incredible Burt Wonderstone
>>220535701>Nolans fartsy smartsy hack filmakinglmao its the season again, every couple years nolan movie comes out, idiots like this come out , nolan makes a billy and they disappear and then repeat
>>220535652Heath Ledger's Joker felt like watching a Chris Chan-tier lolcow disrupting Christopher Nolan's movie set. >>220535596His brother is involved with the Fallout series too, which is also really bad, particularly S2.>>220535561I think it's the same type of Millennial that likes Zack Snyder films, i.e., Latino or Wal-Mart.
Nolan is one of the worst hacks ever to pick up a movie camera. He says he is "self-taught" and boy it shows!
>>220535648At least the Schumacher films have an identity.
>>220535648nothing tops Batman Returns thoughever
>>220534882His direction is impecable and addictive.The problem is his writing, its hit or miss, for example Tenet and Dark night rises are written by him and are complete messy trashBut The Prestige and Inception are also written by him and those are very fluid and with interesting twists.He's a 9/10 director but also a 6/10 writer
>>220535910It do thoughbeit
>>220535985DeVito's Penguin and Walken's Max Schreck mog the shit out of Carrey Riddler and Tommy Lee Two-Face
>>220535765and that identity is... gay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCc6R3tepAAI have witnessed this, and now you must too.
>Rachel?>She's got a GREAT ASS... and you've got your head all the way up it!Bravo, Nolan.
>Burton gets fired from the franchise>the next movie is all about a nerdy guy like Tim Burton who gets fired from Bruce Wayne's company, and ends up creating various arts and crafts projects whilst making with the riddlesBravo, Schumacher.
>>220537040My favorite scene with Dent was how accidentally his face got saturated with petrol. It was very accidental, as you could tell from the scene. That's how he became Two Face, if you weren't sure. And after that, he flipped coins.
his movies are great. have a beer, chill the fuck out, and just enjoy the show.i'd far rather watching something from him than marvelslop #2342342.
>>220537088This scene wasn't very PG-13 either.
>>220535972Addictive how? I feel OP is spot on when calling out how empty and sterile Nolan films feel. The hit or miss writing makes it hard to want to watch his productions too.
>>220534968Fpbp.
>>220534968This. OP is is a gutless faggot.
Rewatching the Tim Burton Batman movies right now and it is amazing how well everything holds up. Practical effects should’ve never been replaced by so much CG slop. Fuck CG and fuck AI in the asshole
>>220534882The Prestige, Memento and Batman Begins are good
>>220534882>Christopher Nolan movies are really bad, right?Yes. I kinda liked the first two Batman movies when they were new, but recently saw TDK again, not good. Dunkirk was okay I guess. All his others I've seen are ridiculous. Very bad at writing real human beings. >how did he even get famousTDK was very successful. "Brilliant" idea to make popular comic book characters very le serious and try channeling Michael Mann movies. I guess before that his movies were competent enough to give him the chance to make TDK. its success gave him semi cart blanche to do a bunch of other slop that sold billions of tickets etc.
>>220537507actual gotham city and not just new york
>>220535910Batman 89 does.
>>220534882Tell us which movies do you think are good so we can appreciate your sophisticated taste, OP.
>>220537040Comparing a kino like Heat to Nolanslop like TDK really highlights how awkward and ridiculous his films are.
>>220537672If you are referring to the Nolan films he committed an even bigger sin and filmed in Chicago.
>>220537672The set design and art direction for Burton's Bat films was incredible, brilliant. Kino.
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>>220537694Flesh gordon versus the martian cheerleaders
>>220537725and in Nolan's films, no one can remember anything other than concrete.
The Dark Knight Rises is honestly one of the worst movies ever made. I watched interstellar and tenet afterwards and couldn't help notice how off everything is about his movies. Like, he writes dialogue but doesn't know how people actually talk to each other. And he's perfectly happy with awkward compositions and editing. I just think so much money is thrown at this guy and he doesn't really know what he's doing. Pic related is the perfect example of his work. You have big guy turning awkwardly to look at main character then the main character slowly bows down. It just feels off.
>>220534882I like a few of them but more often than not they get worst with each rewatch. I'll always like the The Prestige though despite people here mocking it constantly
>>220537753The whole fucking plane sequence with Bane was insanely awkward. "I'm CIA, and that means things!""We got the masked man *le bad guy stare**Cut to plane*WELL AT LEAST YOU KNOW HOW TO TALK. THANKS FOR POINTING OUT HOW LAST MINUTE AND LAZILY CONTRIVED THE WHOLE HANGING PEOPLE OUT OF A PLANE WHILE THREATENING THEM A GUN IS, BUT YOU KNOW, HAD TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS GIANT EMPTY PLANE OTHER THAN USE IT AS A CORNY AURAFARMING PLATFORM WHILE YOU'RE KNEELING DOWN AND THEN START TALKING, WHICH SOUNDS REALLY LOUD AND CLEAR EVEN THOUGH YOUR FACE IS HOODED.
>>220537753> Movies are not like real lifeduh, who wants to watch movies where characters talk like retards in real life. I think his dialogue is fine.
>>220534882>"I've never really been asked to do [big tentpole blockbusters]. You look at what Christopher Nolan did with Batman, that's like the meeting of the highest level of artistic skill & a kind of commerciality and appeal to a wide range of people which is what anybody would want. It's kind of unparalleled actually, and they don't come to me with those. And that's alright."-PTA>'With Nolan you got a guy who came from a background like me and the studios gave him a possibility to make the dark knight movies, or batman movies, the bat movies ? ....... And A: made really good films, but also made movies that had a lot of substance, and the audience wants that, of course everybody wants that, and they should get it'-Refn>In a way, I was totally astonished by The Dark Knight because, on the one hand, it's a huge, mainstream movie. But it also astonished me at how dark it was, as though it was a premonition of something coming at us. I went to see the film, and ran into Christian Bale, which was the only reason I saw the film: I wanted to see how Christian was doing, because I so love that man, as an actor. I ran into Christian and (director) Christopher Nolan, and said to Nolan: Congratulations, this is the most significant film of the whole year. He thought I was kind of making it up, or joking. And I said No, no, no! This is a film of real substance. It doesn't matter if it's mainstream or not. And it's wonderful that he made the film the way he did.-Herzog>“There’s nothing that has ever made me feel less like a professional than watching Chris Nolan’s group at work,” Wes Anderson told Empire about being blown away by the scale of “The Dark Knight. “Just every technique. The rehearsal of flipping the semi-trailer end over end in the middle of the desert before they blow it up in Chicago…Chris Nolan is quite great.”-Wes Anderson
>>220537821you sound like a balding sarcastic loser who consumes shit, no offence
>>220537696Feels like HEAT is more of a character drama than TDK, which eschews delineating the character of its antagonists. You also can see how the DP on HEAT understands things like foregrounding in a composition, but maybe a pure action film wants a more 'immediate' look...
>>220534882There are only 2 superhero projects that stand above the pack in our modern age. One of them from Nolan (TDK Trilogy) and the other from Snyder (Watchmen). Would I bring either back for more? No. Creatives change and often not for the better. The cultural environment of the past 10-15 years makes things even worse.
>the quintessential /tv/ meme is about how silly nolans movies are and how stilted and awkward he writes dialogue>redditor here! DAE think nolan's movies are kinda juvenile? i must be going crazy because everyone likes the dark knight and stuff!!!!!kys srsly
>>220537938Come to think of it, Reeves didn't really articulate the protagonists or the antagonists in 'The Batman'... not in a three-dimensional way at least. I just want an Alfred who asks better questions of Bruce.
>Christopher Priest, the author of The Prestige which was adapted by Christopher Nolan, has criticised the director's Batman trilogy, saying that trying to bring psychological realism to "a bodybuilder who jumps off buildings" is absurd.>"I've only ever had one meeting with him, when the film was finished," he told Script.fr. "Because I wasn't very interested in him. We all have different points of view on the world.>"To the world he's this great, innovative filmmaker; to me, he was a kid who wanted to get into Hollywood.">Priest said that he thinks Memento and The Prestige are Nolan's best films, but he's not keen on his work since.>"I don't like his other work, I think it's shallow and badly written, " he continued. "I've got kids who like superheroes, and they think the Batman films are boring and pretentious. They like things like The Avengers and Iron Man because they're fun.>"It's a wrong move to take a superhero and give it psychological realism. There is no psychological realism. He's a bodybuilder who jumps off buildings.">The author feels that movies like The Avengers and Iron Man get the tone right.>"I'm sorry, I feel really strongly about this, and I think the proof is in the audiences. I've been to the movie house and seen things like Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, and the audience - they're mostly kids, they're restless, they don't watch the film, they talk to each other, they start texting and doing Twitter, they change seats, go to the toilet, kiss their girlfriends.>"And every now and then the guy jumps off the building on a rope, and they watch it and go, 'Woo!' Then they lose interest. To me, that's a real, major lack of judgement in Nolan, to go for superhero films."
Christopher "Bravo" Nolan's best film is The Plane Scene. Exquisite writing and character arcs. Not crazy about the long post credit scenes though
I wish he would complete the Master and commander series. There’s like 12 books. Maybe I will do it myself using AI
>>220538054Marvelfag tries to sound deep and insightful
>>220537938>TDK, which eschews delineating the character of its antagonistswhat do you mean "delineating the character"?
I liked the dark knight trilogy way better than the new batman ones, but I hate extended universe stuff with super heroes. I feel it works better in isolation from one another like the 2002 spider man movie.
>>220538085haven't seen it. qrd?
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>>220539369that's a big word
>>220537753>The Dark Knight Rises is honestly one of the worst movies ever made.Definitely a contender
Dark Knight Rises was embarrassingly bad. Like first year film student tier bad.
>>220537935You sound like a midwit who is trying too hard to be smart.
