I don't know, but she looks like a fag.
She seduced Humbert without truly understanding the full ramifications. Read the book where he hides her mother’s death and then fucks her the same night he breaks the news, and tell me Lolita is the bad guy
>>220535277I love swain. Simple as.
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Humbert is the bad guy anything else is a pedo cope Specifically the part in the book where hes holding lolita in his arms after raping her and he starts to feel bad because he knows she is a child and then almost immediatly he gets horny and rapes her again
>>220536314That wasn't rape
>>220535354>seduced Humbert without truly understanding the full ramifications>believing Humbert's bullshitHe was a pedo and she was hot, to him, so he groomed and raped her. She was, at most, a bit of a tease, like girls her age are
Nah. Pedo scum are always the bad guy.
>>220535277If I find her sexually attractive does that make me pedo?
>>220536373yes, scum
>>220535277Blaming the victim. Nice. Next you say her skirt was too short.
>>220536373She was like 15 during filming. It doesn't make you a pedo, but it would make you ephebophilic.
>>220535277Mentally Humbert was a child compared to her.
>>220536425>shit only a pedo would saynice try, nonce
>>220536435In my experience, people who call everyone a pedo are usually pedos. I'm not pedophilic, but I do understand the importance of words.
>>220536425Does saying stuff like this help in court? Asking for uncle.
>>220536458It wouldn't help you in any circumstance. The public are largely uneducated and the law is the law. If you're willing to break the law, then you ought to be willing to deal with the punishment.
>>220536453>classic pedo replyJust give up, nonce. Pedophilia is pedophilia, only a pedo would bother with splitting hairs. Now, fuck off back to your chink cartoons.
>>220536473If I had to guess, you are not only pedophilic, but you probably like to hurt small animals too.
>>220536408I mean, her skirt was pretty skimpy.
>>220535277I never got the “Lolita was a seductress” readings. She’s so passive and Humbert pretty much does everything, with all her “flirting” just being random innocuous things Humbert happens to find sexy.
you can have pathetic villains and sympathetic villains. i know bad things are bad. in the book, both characters are terrible people.
>>220536499I think that's the point. Your reading is the correct one. The seductress angle is wrong.
>>220536314>I recall certain moments let us call them icebergs in paradise when after having had my fill of her after fabulous insane exertions that left me limp and azurebarred I would gather her in my arms with at last a mute moan of human tenderness her skin glistening in the neon light coming from the paved court through the slits in the blind her sootblack lashes matted her grave gray eyes more vacant than ever for all the world a little patient still in the confusion of a drug after a major operation and the tenderness would deepen to shame and despair and I would lull and rock my lone light Lolita in my marble arms and moan in her warm hair and caress her at random and mutely ask her blessing and at the peak of this human agonized selfless tenderness with my soul actually hanging around her naked body and ready to repent all at once ironically horribly lust would swell again and oh no Lolita would say with a sigh to heaven and the next moment the tenderness and the azure all would be shattered
Teleiophiles seething ITT
>>220536523> oh no Lolita would say with a sigh to heavenoh nooooooooo~
>>220536523Where's the punctuation? This is frustrating to read.
>>220536565it was non acscii chracters
>>220536458In most parts of the world, there’s nothing wrong with fucking a 15 years old. If you are a burger then i guess it wouldn't help tho.
>>220536499she knows what she's doing. she has sex with that boy at camp.blah blah blah age of consent, fine. children can murder, knowingly.
>>220536469Uh no, the age and tanner stage are usually very pertinent to a stat rape charge. If not for influencing the jury than for mitigation at sentencing. There are also additional laws that serve harsher punishment and definitions of consent for crimes involving children 12 and under
I'm 100% sure this guy wrote this shit from experience except it was probably with boys. just look at him. he looks exactly like a guy who'd diddle kids.
>>220536614Okay, the help is relative, but what I really intended with my brevity was to suggest that you should never end up in such a situation to begin with. Just skip the nuance around the charges and stay the fuck out of that kind of trouble altogether.
>>220536633Beggars can’t be choosers
>>220536624based on what?the only writer who looks like what he was is Robert E. Howard.
Obviously. She's an immoral little slut who uses men without a second thought.Humbert should have spanked her, would have solved lots of things.
>>220536314rape is merely a property crime, it isnt a big deal. It just requires a just amount of monetary compensation
>>220535277Lolita vs. Josephine American movie when?
>>220536742it's crazy how much the world works this way.even if you know it's bullshit, an out of court settlement can just be the easier, quicker, cheaper option.
>>220535277Why did they pick the muscle mommy for the role?
>>220537654>what Epstein’s “child” “victims” looked like
>>220536435>>220536473Seething roastie lmao
>>220535277Even worse, she was a very naughty girl.
>>220537654Jeremy Irons demanded 2 to 3 years worth of gigs as payment in exchange for taking the role because he thought the movie was going to leave him jobless by ruining his public image. Nothing really changed after the movie and he kept getting gigs.Was his fears ever warranted?
>>220537654The film is worth watching purely for Jeremy Irons.
>>220537857No but I imagine that he decided that before seeing the girl casted. Assumed she was look like an actual child
>>220536565>I recall certain moments, let us call them icebergs in paradise, when after having had my fill of her—after fabulous, insane exertions that left me limp and azure-barred—I would gather her in my arms with, at last, a mute moan of human tenderness (her skin glistening in the neon light coming from the paved court through the slits in the blind, her soot-black lashes matted, her grave gray eyes more vacant than ever—for all the world a little patient still in the confusion of a drug after a major operation)—and the tenderness would deepen to shame and despair, and I would lull and rock my lone light Lolita in my marble arms, and moan in her warm hair, and caress her at random and mutely ask her blessing, and at the peak of this human agonized selfless tenderness (with my soul actually hanging around her naked body and ready to repent), all at once, ironically, horribly, lust would swell again—and “oh, no,” Lolita would say with a sigh to heaven, and the next moment the tenderness and the azure—all would be shattered.
>>220537654how did Jeremy Irons get better-looking with age?
>>220538096repeated exposure to underage pussy
>>220536770Seems like a role for Sofia vergara.
>>220536344>believing Humbert's bullshit>>220536427>Mentally Humbert was a childHe was a self admitted unreliable narrator, who suffered from multiple mental disorders, and a history of substance abuse. For all we know, he literally just made the whole thing up as some kinda CWCville tier schizo fantasy, and Dolores never even existed.But considering his is the only perspective we have, that's the version of the story we have to go with. And in his version, Lo was whore who was taking advantage of him just as much as he was taking advantage of her. It was a mutually abusive relationship, where they were both abusing their own personal power dynamics to manipulate eachother. There really was no good guy or bad guy. They were both garbage people.
>>220535277>"Cheeky brat teasing men, she needs correction!"the movie
>>220536435ToddlerconLoliconHephebileAnd the restlearn your shit, man.
>>220538051Now THIS I can masturbate to. Thank you.
>>220535277she was making a move, he had to get it on
>>220536523>deepen to shame and despairyou wouldn't get it.
>>220538314>there was no good guythe adult is the immoral individual, anon.
>>220535277It was a great movie. The book to this day is considered a tour de force of the English language. A feminist professor at Harvard had to admit the complete command of the English language encompassed in the book has no rival to this day. I watch the movie twice a year. Both versions.
entrapment. no mens rea. he's looking at a civil plea bargain at most.
>>220539090Wasn't it written by a Russian? That's high praise if so.
>>22053642515 is teenagerfucking hellpedophile is attraction to pre-pubescent children13+ is not pedoI swear word don't mean anything anymore
>>220535277She was just a woman womaning, Humber should've been smarter
>>220539129nabokov was russian but his rich as fuck parents hired him a governess from england so he spoke english from an early age and actually learned to write english before russian. a better example of an esl achieving literary fame would be joseph conrad who learned it in his 20s while working as a sailor.
any new IG ebes?
>>220539263I enjoyed that Nabakov interview where he awkwardly and randomly inserts into the convo that he’s definitely not a pedo. He must’ve written the book in a kind of multi year fever dream then woke up one day years later and thought “Holy shit I bet everyone thinks I’m a pedo, this totally looks like I’m a massive pedo!”
>>220535277The whole point is she's too young to understand her actions. She's just a kid, and even ehat little sex stuff she knows about is just a form of playing and learning at her age. She doesn't realize it's different to fool around with a fellow kid who's also learning as opposed to an adult who can whisk her away and keep her unknowingly dependent on him for sexual gratification, and knows full well right from wrong. And Humbert KNOWS what they get up to is wrong- he just gets insanely lucky with the mother dying immediately after realizing he's a pedo, and Lolita herself coming onto him first so she's already open to the idea. She runs away when she gets older and it dawns on her that the things they did weren't okay; he took advantage of a stupid little girl with no guardians. This is why children need parents/guardians; they genuinely don't know better. Especially girls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIFjHo4Tbpc
>>220536373No. That's fairly normal. It's only a problem if you're acting on those thoughts.
>>220535402same
>>220539408>He must’ve written the book in a kind of multi year fever dream then woke up one day years later and thought “Holy shit I bet everyone thinks I’m a pedopresentist nonsense, the book is from the 50s and pedo hysteria was at 5% intensity compared to now. women read it, self inserted as the girl and thought it was romantic. he had little reason to give a shit.
I think a modern adaptation of this could workThe only problem I see happening is that it exposes the underage sugar baby community which would make women look even worse
>>220537857No and the fact that he went and did an audiobook version years later proves otherwise.
the whole point of the book was humbert is a bad narrator who cannot read into things correctly. it's why he assumes his feelings for her is love when it's purely based on his younger fantasy of fucking her as a child
In the 1997 movie, yes, and it was a mutual thing.In the book, no, she was a victim.
>>220539087Dolores was knowingly committing adultery by seducing a married man. She is not a moral individual either
>>220535354>without truly understanding the full ramifications>SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT SHE WAS DOING GUYSEThat's the second most pseud bullshit i've read in this thread.The first one is the 'unreliable narrator' crap some faggots heard from what could only be some youtube shill with a patreon attached to their videos >>220536344>he groomed and raped herIf you read the book you would know that ,by her own admission, he wasn't her first.So the grooming goes out the window really quick.
>>220536624>I'm 100% sure this guy wrote this shit from experience except it was probably with boys. just look at him. he looks exactly like a guy who'd diddle kids.Did you watch “The Americans” the TV show? Do you remember the scene were the male character, back in Russia was taken around to the different rooms to be taught how to sexually please or seduce all types of person, whether gay men or old women? Nabakov was raised in a Russian Aristocratic family, and supposedly was taught English before learning Russian, meaning he was likely being groomed to be a spook, (and maybe he was). It has been pointed out that his uncle may have “groomed” young Nabakov in other ways, which would also be useful if he was being trained to be s spook.
>>220539847>the whole point of the book was humbert is a bad narratorNo it isn't.
The '62 movie is better.
>>220537857no the kubrick one has james mason in it obvivously wasnt going to end his career
>>220541239Do dogs need an age of consent?
>>220535277Yes
Dolores sat on his lap and kissed his mouth and played with his crotch, plus she got fucked by an older teenage boy for a month straight at the camp with her friendShe certainly wasnt innocent
>>220537830seething pedofile lmao
>>220539408i mean he also wrote the enchanter and ada or ador
>>220538757nah, fuck off, pedo
>>220540260dawww, you really think my psude shitpost is good enough to be a youtube shill? That's probably the nicest thing anyone has said to me in a while
>>220535277any new remakes?
>>220537678The end of the movie is humbert taking down a super rich pedo
