https://youtu.be/6kNqw7UdENg?si=AAxvFJPspZZQG0ijit's pretty solidVaporwave was everywhere back then, even here
>>220545565
>>220545565Gay ass zoomer subgenre
>>220545691That album is from 2011 you absolute fucking retard, zoomers were children when Vaporwave was popular, it’s entirely a millennial thing.
>>220545738>most of the producers are just normal people that tried something experimental >Vektroid (who is a trans woman) is presented trough an actress and a voice over.just be you, girlalso, Saint Pepsi seems like a cool dude
>>220545565Very cool OP. Here is some fairly modern Vapor to listen to. Probably the best that "classic" Vaporwave can reach from "TUPPERWAVE", featuring tons of other top producers like Corp and Dan Masonhttps://youtu.be/uEKOScSHkeo
>>220546716pretty nice. thanks, my man
>>220546716I'm more of a barber beats guy these days but I'll check this out. thx anon.
>>220545565Love vaporwave. I was doing idm and put out a bunch of stuff then vaporwave came and took idm's place. It is super cool though so I can't even be mad at it. But I also can't make vaporwave. It's more like DJing than making music.
I like some of Vaporwave, probably in part because I was listening to Dancing Fantasy back in the early 2000s
>amidst the ruins of late-stage capitalismlol dropped
>>220546797>>220546875I want city pop to make a resurgence in the US media.
For me it's telepath and desert sand feels warm at night. Slushwave is the best subgenre.Also amazing: eyeliner, 18 carat affair, windows96, and luxury elite. Was that actually luxury elite in the interviews or an actress?
>>220545565i checked it quickly and it seems they don't interview the ppl who actually made the crucial first few albums but random-ass talkingheads , johnny come latelately and retards taht use the word "aesthetic" as a quality
>>220547795Anonimity was very important to the producers.Also some or them are trans
>>220547795thanks for saving me some time. most documentaries are fucking shit.
>>220547795lol randomly clicking through the video it's people talking about the first time they found vaporwave online. what a waste of fucking time.
>>220545565shame that vektroid trooned out and only makes utterly fucking terrible noise music.
>>220546949They've been using that term for over 100 years and they're still talking like capitalism is going to implode on itself any second now.
Now it's just that lofi shit that's just the same *click* "clack* beat over and over again
>>220548816Most troons do one genius thing and then is all garbage
>>220545565I was already in my 20s circa 2011 and terminally online and yet I didn't discover vaporwave or witch house until years later, basically after they had already died down.
>>220545565Vito unblock my rym account you faggot
>>220549278It's usually because the estrogen, fistfuls of antipsychotics, and abusing party drugs destroys their minds. Theirs is a profoundly degenerate community the extols the virtues of hedonistic self destruction repackaged as empowerment and self-actualization
>>220548869There is amazing new Vaporwave still being made, it's just hard to find because the scene is so small it doesn't usually "escape captivity" so to speak. Some of the best Vapor ever was made post 2020, they're just very unknown. This channel "Vapor Memory" has been diligently uploading great vapor for like 15+ years (all unmonetized btw). If you want good vapor it's always right here for youhttps://youtube.com/@vapormemory
>>220548869I do absolutely despise that beat with the really loud snare that sounds like two pieces of would clapping together. >>220549349Witch house is such a good music genre, and legit one of the only inherently "cool" genres. What producers do you enjoy? I've been on a Snow Strippers kick recently. This one song "So What if I'm a Freak" is so good. It has this sample that goes>Fun fact if I actually killed myself you would get arrested!!>Gun shot>Beat dropIt's a good song lol
>>220545565shit, I have to watch the whole thing and it is already 04:12 here, I should already be in bedfuck
>>220546716Tupperwave is great. Just downloaded this album friend, thank you
>>220548772you and i fell on the wrong bits, i watched it all and there are legit peeps in there, nmesh stpepsi vektroid they talk about the couple of labels, i had memory hole that already haha .
>>220545565>2 HOURS about musical counterfeiters
>>220550601Here’s a doc about hip hop being a product of looting during the 77 NYC blackouthttps://youtu.be/Ts85TH-jaD4?t=186
>>220545565>some shitty video essay presented as a "movie"Ummm no, also vaporwave is fucking gay and always has been, only good that came out of that was eccojams
>>220548846100 years is nothing for a period of an economic system.
>>220549977>There is amazing new Vaporwave still being madeA lot of it is just AI now, but I don't even know if I can hate it, because it's better than some of the shit I've heard from people who have been poorly chopping up and slow+reverb'ing tracks for a decade.
>>220550709Tell that to every communist country.
>>220550800Countries can't be communist.
never got those who make the emphasis on the "nostalgia" of it, always have seen it as looking for gems to actualize now, for a present experience. fuddy duddies that want to stay in the past are wack, no matter if they are stuck in the 80s or 10s or whatever.
>>220550764Really? On the Vapor Memory channel you're hearing that? I don't listen to a ton of random albums but usually what I click on is far from basic chopped and slowed tracks by now. Unless you're going out of your way to click random stuff on Bandcamp idk how you'd find super basic stuff like that normally. If anything the average quality I find is better these days than back when Vapor was popular because now everyone doing it actually cares about Vapor and isn't just doing it for popularity
>>220547430>SlushwaveLaughs in mallsoft
>>220545565I refuse to watch the video and give it any views so can an anon tell me if it the documentary interviews Ariel Pink, John Maus, Geneva Jacuzzi, and R. Stevie Moore? They were pretty important to 80s fetishization many years before Macintosh Plus. Also what about dolphinwave or whatever the fuck that was? Is there any info on it? I haven't thought about it since 2013.
>>220545565I feel like a lot of the beats on ICEMAN were actually vaporwave inspired and they sounded so good. Maybe there is some potential in not going too far with the vapor but you just have a feeling for it, maybe Vapor Country just needs a touch of vape and it would work.
Jason Sanders has/had a ton of fantastically diverse vaporwave mixes from the prior decade, in case any of you were still of the opinion that it's all just chopped and screwed elevator music from the 90s.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqp0pyxvC5A&list=PLd5bDAZ5tv0H9sYliflqxbTG1j5y962WK&index=78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JetrXTkZGUwReleased in 1990 - is this the earliest vaporwave song?
>>220545565I was into vaporwave and mostly when I was drinking and using lots of coke. It gave me a feeling of nostalgia. It was niche and didn’t have mass appeal. Synthwave had more normie appeal. There was so much derivative synthwave. I would say almost 80-90% was low effort.
Sorry ladies, I'm into Future Funk.
>tranny steals other people's music>adds some filter to it>claims he came up with some new genre of music>for a few people go ''oh cool, filters exist? I will run some music other people made through a filter too!''>10 years later some tranny pedophile makes a video essay about how capitalism is bad and the tranny saved the world with his amazing new genre
I was really hoping the creators of vaporware weren't such pretentious likes but that's too much to ask in this hell escape.I always imagined more of a classical rebellion to faggotry.But some good things. These music documentaries get exhausting because it's obviously just people exaggerating their memories to an insane degree.It's visually very nice.
>>220550644beautiful pull right before bedthanks anon
I was so sad when I found out MACINTOSH PLUS - Floral Shoppe 'リサフランク420° was made by a tranny.
>>220554524pre op or post op?
>>220545565>Vaporwave was everywhere back then
I like everyone’s new jungle songs
Millennials who wouldn't shut the fuck up about the 80s was pretty much the prelude to the end of culture. That being said I liked vaporwave in 2011 before it was cool and like everyone else at the time I was completely oblivious to what it was actually signalling. My Pick: Prism Genesis
>>220553556Vektroid didn't invent vaporwave Lopatin didAnyone saying otherwise is a retard
>>220545565Vaporwave was the worst fucking shit ever. It was a microgenre made by talentless retards because nobody cared about the actual music ("oh wow he took an old '80s J-Pop or jazz fusion track and slowed it down and distorted it FUCKING BRILLIANT") because the only actual draw was the ironic '80s/early '90s aesthetic and once everyone got bored after a year or two it died out by 2015.It was synthwave but even more shallow and stupid since at least there actually was some decent synthwave music.
>>220545565"back then" as if it was a long time ago lol
I remember listening to Delorra a lot, many many good songs, don't know if it's considered vaporware thoughAlso Volt Age, intro song is top
>>220555753First vaporwave album came out in 201016 years ago lol
>>220554804>>220555731It was fanning the embers of 80s creativity and moods. It's an insular type of nostalgia/surfing the internet background music since it didn't translate to other media. Just like phonk became an idealization of night driving music
>>220554524anyone who makes fastidious electric music is very likely to be trans because it's the same impulse as programming. >play back. reflect. edit the variable, 'change 7 to 7.5'. play back again. reflect. 'try the other direction, 6.5'. play back. very different to strumming a guitar or normal instrument where you just adjust it 'live' with your fingers as you hear what sound is coming out
Good thread. I remember the first time listening to vaporwave after reading about it on 4chan. It was a pretty remarkable experience hearing something genuinely different that couldn't be placed into a familiar genre. I now listen pretty much exclusively to vapor, mallsoft and more recently, Utopian Scholastic:https://youtu.be/wjCoBY8blR0?si=Bj9sVOzly6TWPdzQsome of the shit the algorithm comes up with is incredible.
I remember people trying to make a bunch of new genres before vaporwave took off. There was witch house, chillwave and something called sea punk
Appreciate the links in this thread. Gonna listen at work tomorrow
>>220556413Chillwave was pretty good though and had a pretty good run of albums.
>>220545565Probably the easiest genre around and the easiest to get known for (online anyway). Even I put out a few albums and did some collab tracks with some moderately known names for the time, you could just email other artists on Bandcamp or DM them on SoundCloud.
>>220556033In the tranny-crazed rap-obsessed US maybe but it's legtimate music in Europe
>>220556413Back in my day we had nothing to call it but "nu-disco"
My TRUMPWAVE was a tactical nuke against trannywave and it worked. I didn't make the patriotic montages with inspiring trump quote samples mixed in, I did something much more effective and many gay vaporwave discords and friendships were left in ruins
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This thread proves people can still be brought together in love for common interests by 4chan and other internet websites. Why isnt anyone bickering? Am I not a faggot? What is going on here?
>>220556413And now nothing new is made
>>220554524I imagine everyone who made vaporwave, synthwave or any wave as a tranny. Like that >>220557113But it's music, so I can ignore it.
>>220550686https://youtu.be/MKKRXz9Sgmk
lmao this documentary is gay as fuck and is mostly a bunch of aging millennials + tranny zoomers who mostly had nothing to do with it. Don't waste your time on this or on vaporwave
>>220561113who are you, some sort of vaporwave expert?
>14:44>it's like chopped & screwed but for white peoplekek pretty accurate, i was just thinking about the connection between these two genres
that's not a movie, that's a youtube video.
>>220555753it was a long time ago, bro
>>2205612322011 was like 3 years ago what are you on about
>>220560374that's the goal now
>>220561113you sound like a faggot
>>220561113I skipped through it and there's no Daniel Lopatin aka Oneohtrix Point Never who was literally the main guy that started it all
>>220561198I'm not going to reveal anything specific but I know what I'm talking about. Believe it or don't
>>220561249god, i wish it was 2014
>>220561285They speak at length about him in that sappy and longing way one does when trying to describe the genesis of something without having any direct relation to it. The only people in the documentary who have a reason to speak on anything were there during Turntable.fm, SPF420 etc, but they mostly don't say much. There are other very obvious gaps than Lopatin, probably because they weren't dumb enough to be on camera for this dumb shit. But even if they did speak, there's nothing to say and nothing they could add. There is no "story" of vaporwave
>>220545691>zoomerIt's the epitome of soilennial ironic culture.
>>220561314I'm pretty sure its true. I remember that faggy 4chan documentary on netflix and they also just talked with nobodies who acted like they have been a big part of it. WT Snacks looks like an old vaporwave tranny himself btw
>>220545565I love Vaporwave.posting my favehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0ALkNKQzmA
>>220561532is that the one where the only women were trannies and an autistic girl called "Pizza"
>>220561636the antisocial networkidk, sounds about right. That was one of the "girls"
>>220561694woof
>>220561232nah
>>220561759Indeed, what a fucking dog of a woman.
>>220545565This thread reminded me I bought Floral Shoppe on vinyl 10 years ago but never opened it, until today anyway.
>>220545691this the new internet thing when i was in college in 2008 or so.
>>220562414pretty nice
>>220562414You should have waited until december 9th to open it
>>220562477I should have sold it eight years ago. There was a window where people were paying stupid money for these. Now they're worth about the $20 I paid for it in the first place.
>>220561199underrated dubsstoner metal is reggae for white people
>>220556413I remember posting my shitty shoegaze demo on /mu/ a decade ago and several people contacted me about joining their "ocean grunge" circle and contributing to a "manifesto".As far as I could tell they were just taking anything vaguely ocean-themed from the Bandcamp threads and trying to force a new scene out of it. Weird times.
>>220562567was the music good?
>>220562620>/mu/>soundcloud>was the music good?anon...
>>220551977was hot sugar vaporwave?
This thread is so weird. Can one of you please just tell me to go back?
>>220545565Was vaporwave ever really a respectable genre and not just a meme? Macintosh Plus seems to be basically the only album worth mentioning
>>220564053Maybe once they started completely making their own music
>>220564053As an oldhead, I think it had potential, but was quickly drowned out due to the overwhelming amount of low-quality stuff that people could throw together in an hour in hopes of chasing whatever the latest microtrends were.Lopatin did Eccojams as a production exercise and probably had no intention of "starting" anything, considering he'd been making experimental stuff for a while.Mac Plus was the first of the "just slow down an 80s song" lazy shit but they actually had chops as a producer, so the end product was still pretty good.After a while there were a handful of people intent on making it a "real" genre with influences from established electronic genres, but one of the ringleaders (HKE) turned out to be a lunatic and the "scene" sort of withered away after that.
Oneohtrix Point Never is to vaporwave what Nirvana is to grunge if anyone cares to know.
>>220557074I remember those times. Grum, Russ Chimes and Valerie. That's all pre-vapor, but definitely influenced the style.
>>220564053oneohtrix point never (the guy that invented the genre) is pretty much the only person that does it well and even then he hasn't dragged it out for more than a couple albums because that's about all it's worth.
>>220560788New genres made recently >post black metal>grunge gaze>5th wave emo
>>220564644>grunge gazePost some examples
>>220564968https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4qp5lRBVgchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbqfOtHqjMc
>>220564361>but one of the ringleaders (HKE) turned out to be a lunatic and the "scene" sort of withered away after that>"oldhead" faggot doesn't know anything and makes things upMakes sense
>>220554804The 80s revival started in the late 90s.
>>220565151I thought this was going to be like grunge + shoegaze but it sounds nothing like either, it's more like nu-metalNot saying it's bad but not very original
>>220565376Nothing is very original anymore
>>220563853You are exactly where you need to be
>>220558863>"Consume product and get excited for next product," said in a slowed down and distorted way.
I really miss vaporwave. I even got into Barber Beats which was a genre that spawned after Vaporwave died but now that seems to be dead now too. Dang.
>>220566043It feels like music as a whole has died.
>>220562645maybe.
>>220555989Its specifically the late 80s, early 90s. Essentially my childhood. 'Mallsoft' was it's own genre before it got lumped in with vaporwave, and it was shocking to me how adding reverb to general Musac tracks had such a catharsis impact to it.
is the definitive vaporwave album in your path: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T17gsA67og&list=PLXCuIBXPBxWkKwkLmd_cVGU1BSLfY6I67
>>220545738>it’s entirely a millennial thing.Plenty of zoomers grew up listening to vaporwave.
>take song>loop best bit>slow down>add reverb>huuurrrrrrrduurrrrrrrr me mozart dopezart durrrr
>>220566486it's not that different from DJing
>>220566061Pretty much, especially if your avenue to new music was cruising youtube reccs or really trusting any kind of algo to guide you to cool new shit. That used to work OK but now the slopocalypse has happened and every time I let yt skip me onto the next video it always picks some 3 hour long chillslop compilation with a title like "relax. coffee and rain. a moment for yourself." I can't find real shit anymore and even when I do I can't trust it hasn't been enhanced, edited, or whatevered by AI so I can't enjoy it anyways. The rest of my musical journey from 2023 until I die is just going to be me digging further and further into past decades of music until I die at 80 listening to, like, 20s honky tonk recorded on wax cylinder.
What’s the best program to make vaporwave music?
>>220560788Plenty of things have been made since 2019. Not just in your 4chan-esque bubble.
>>220566061You just don't know how to find the good stuff anymore. Hard dance for example is a huge popular genre right now (and i fucking love it).
>>220562518unrelated but that is my birthday date
>>220566961Post examples
>>220545565>HOME - Resonance not mentioned even oncecringe
>>220566688Scratching at least takes actual skill.
>>220567016That shit is synthwave, not vaporwave
Simpsonwave is the true kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuVTt-M3IXo
>>220567000https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Riy2YDedIxMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgFGKGhLXfIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYEkCiyi7Jshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWbLwbwhKskhttps://youtu.be/aGk0fQaNq1k?si=REkuOgxiu1DbpCLR
>>220567170comparing vaporwave to synthwave is an insult to synthwave. synthwave is fucking cool and vaporwave is pseudointellectual shit.
>>220545738>zoomers were children when Vaporwave was popularYes and so were you. Because it was for 14-15 year olds.
>>220567219LOL
>>2205457382011 was 15 years ago bro
>>220548846Late capitalism doesn't mean capitalism collapses. It means you're no longer living in peak capitalism where new development and wealth kept making the average person's life better and better. Ever since the 70s, quality of life stopped going up and has steadily been decreasing. It just refers to the shitty, nickle and diming, captive, oligopoly controlled, globohomo capitalism we're living in now instead of awesome capitalism boomers got to experience the tail end of.
>>220567248Synthwave is cool when you first hear it and then you realize 99% of the tracks are just variations on the same two or three tracks and get bored of it very quickly.
>>220567219Wish I hadn't asked
>>220567576so many buzzwords yet no words of actual substance
>>220545738shut the fuck up you fucking zoomer retard
>>220545565Everyone post your vaporwave/synthwave/mallsoft/barber beats gemshttps://youtu.be/RHza8y45BR8?si=wz3iyuuF0OZ1KKzH
>>220545643this is my favorite movie.
>>220545565Saved. Gracias anon por la recomendación.
>>220554731lol, right. some ppl do drum n bass, jungle, house daft punk style... as if it got the "spark" ... its all dead. zombie-like musical landscape.
>>220551977there are way more ppl than them on that trip in the 90s, before them. (ol man moore was doing music like his post punk peers, not part of that argument) i dont even wanna bring up anyone cool but i'll just namedrop jaques lu cont
anyone remembers Nobodytm?
>>220566043ok but what makes it a "barber" beat?never got that
LoFi girl just steals people's music
>>220570271Because it's widely considered to be a genre that was invented and popularized by the artist "Haircuts for men"
>>220553387A rural right wing retard meme from a more innocent era.
vaporwave peaked here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP4b3sZxjc8Better documentary with out all the fat hipsters and trannies pretending they made everything.
Never got fully into it, I like a couple Saint Pepsi songs, some VHS LOGOS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRU_zS6zxG0and I love most of Eco Virtual's stuff - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7hRiUDkAAY
no matter what the greedy crine fatties say there was an implied criticism of capitalism in that whole thing. even if some artists didn't think of anything about it. the pop bits and hooks that were in ads or could have been, the whole commercial music to pacify and motivate the consumer to stick around and buy more... the dead malls not ending the general trend of over consumption, landfill maxxing on a planet scale and tomfoolery about status symbols, keeping up with the boomer joneses global mentality with less buying power, renting everything gimmick instead of owning, lack of solidarity while the billionaires invest in poo astroturf farms to destroy solidarity between us all. etc etc
Tranny musicDiana Ross’s b-sides are worth more than the entire genre
>>220572846it makes it fun to revisit. the old stuff still makes for a relevant soundtrack for our times, the epstein era : we were in it then, still in it now and for the foreseeable future
>>220572846>there was an implied criticism of capitalismShut the fuck up you fuckin loser
>>220573146triggered much? what do you think you have to lose, to chimp out like that?
>>220545738Im 26 and remember people talking about the album in my computer class when I was 15, there was a younger millennial/ older zoomer interest in it
>>220573158I'm older than you go ask your mom for money
Wasn't it just other people's music slowed down, or were there actual original compositions?
>>220573283Pretty much just chopped and samples
>>220573392Did the composers get royalties?
>>220573199 what an odd card to play, who "goes there" with their "i'm older than you" ? boring people? i'm in my 40s i now what i talk about. and made it in this shitworld, have you? anyway we are due for some anticapitalism in this shitworld, artfully done, or else things will just get more dystopic.
>>220572846>there was an implied criticism of capitalism in that whole thing.Definitely didn’t show in the songs themselves. It’s just chopped up 50+ year old songs.
>>220572846Excellent critique. You should really follow in Mark Fisher's footsteps.
>>220545565I own this album on vinyl sealed..is it worth anything?
>>220545565I miss all these creative YouTube music styles. Vaporwave, phonk, trap etc. shame it's all dead these days and nothing replaced it
>>220547033Future Funk was the besthttps://youtu.be/HsiVNMh7XiM?si=qzuipm02qITA6F_x
>>220573420I think that's what killed the genre. A lot of band camps and such got purged due to copyright strikes. Although I believe that should be fair use
>>220573450No you don't get it, adding reverb to muzak means fuck Donald Trump
For me, it's McVaporwaveLoved getting drunk to this shit. I've kicked the bottle but just thinking about it makes me want to get smashed alone at my computer again
>>220573599https://youtu.be/n_MEHTUFjGI?si=WCPAo5MyJlZ3raGM
>>220573576Eh, idk man. Sampling is very touchy. Even hip-hop had to keep pretty close track of things to make a release. Fair use would be if I used your composition in a mixed media presentation, like a soundtrack to a non-monetized video. If someone slows down something I composed and adds a ton of lush effects, its still my work. You can't just have someone else's hook.
>>220573627I don't believe so. You can't copyright tempo or basic compositions. Otherwise everything is a copyright strike.
>>220573652Well no shit on the tempo, and don't worry about "basic compositions" when it comes to lifting someone else's recorded work.
>>220573735Most of the time those compositions are a bear carbon copy of something else. I understand your point but in this age it's irrelevant. Anybody can hear something from 1920 and virtually copy it with a tweak
Imagine, if you will a whole genre of music that is based off a nostalgia for an era the listener was never alive for.
>>220573972Yeah that's how bad things are now
>>220573972But I like it more than hearing violent lyrics of violence, sexual lyrics of sexual, and boasting
>>220545565The Vaporwave aesthetic is cringekino.
>>220574207Exactly. Try and twerk to vaporwave
>>220574207https://youtu.be/kgkVbvf9rgo?si=ZqUrEfYBCsFnocgV
I'm just here for the greens and purples.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x4weajfqm0
>>220568836>>220567321Hey you wanted really good and new music, i provided. Are your brains too calcified to take in anything new, no matter how good it is?
>>220545565why do so many men who make electronic music end up becoming trans?
Thank god Dungeon synth is still niche
>>220573420when it was made not for profit it was not a problem. then after it was creatively over some nerds wanted to have something "real" in their hands... they got sued. they talk about it in the doc.
>>220573494Copies were selling on ebay for upwards of $200 eight years ago. Now they go for about $30.
They did vaporwave when the 80s were still just around the corner.
>>220566043>I really miss vaporwave. I really miss vaporwave too. Future funk is another genre (or sub-genre?) that I miss and that genre is ALSO dead now.
>>220572846”Do not do this very cool thing” will never be critique in any form of media.
>>220574438waht very cool thing, be a big pig fucker?
>>220574462Just take a shower already
>>220574400Yeah, I mean it makes total sense. Its not like Eminem can sell his music without kicking something to.. well, everybody. Its tantamount to trying to sell a nightcore album without paying the actual artists.
>>220555753Anon I....
>>220562414does it smell like a tranny when you first opened it?
>>220574431based king
>>220574488you got nothing so you should stop trying :-)
>>220574594You're a little kid that has bad hygiene nobody will ever care about your qualms
>>220574540It's literally not their music anymore if it's edited. Dub reggae and all that shit is evidence.
>>220574629>It's literally not their music anymore if it's editedOh, cool. I'm going to edit some top 40 singles and release it without credit to the originals for a buck. Also that's not how dub reggae works at all.
>>220574644Yes it is. Dub reggae was just an edit of literal top 40 tracks. There's dozens upon dozens of Bob Marley edits with reverb and rap edited over it that was sold commercially.
>>220574610you claim to be "older than me" you talk about showers and thats all you are. you really are.. not much! people are getting fed up of being exploited and the exploitation is accelerating so i'm starting to think we will see some actual class warfare in north america before i die. finally the leftists will be real and not just some strawman to blame the failed social policies of the sociopathic right-tards.
>>220574652Yes, it absolutely is, and the original composer of the "riddim" is credited for any commercial product attempted. Look into Beastie Boys and Mixmaster Mike if you'd like to know more about how this war was fought and won by the original artists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ArhnIlIcywdoes vaporwave always involved sampling/remixing other music or are there actual people who make original works from scratch?
>>220574610incidentally i just remember, earlier i had a shower thought about this: you are bitter, aggressive, ressentful, alienated ... you are totally ripe to be harvested by the military industrial complex, enjoy getting drafted to be killed for the profits of the 1% that don't give a fuck about you.
>>220545565I need more recs like these please. https://youtu.be/_Ci0Kgdpgsw?si=QdujyxQbmCtSGYm-
>>220562414Kek same, though I still haven't opened it. I bought it before whatever crazy shit happened with the official vinyl release that ended with them disappearing from sale.
>>220574548It's okay, you're just a zoomer, maybe a a different website such as tiktok would better suit you.
>>220572480thats just some nigga reading wikipedia doe
>>220554153>classical rebellion to faggotryFaggots are the only creative ans artistic people left nowadays. Hets just use AI and complain about trans folks existing and won't even rebel when their president is outed as a pedophile in cohorts with a human trafficker
>>220572846it made 80s capitalism look cool as fuck though
>>220545565I could have made that album
>>220574832all synthwave sounds the same
>>220556033explain no, you absolute faggot
If you were there you'd know that aside from floral shoppe which is a very cool album and rightly became a classic, vaporwave was just a lame trend that was the chrysalis for the REAL kino: simpsonwavehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTfa-9aCTYgfuck I miss 2016
>>220575240Vaporwave was just an umbrella term for a lot of interesting subgenres, like mallsoft and of course simpsonwave. There was also Seinwave.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpsZkMN9tmc
>d00d the computer beeps are imitating electromagnetic instruments and making them seem edgy >also let's label everything in gay special characters with spaces because we're really different and quirkySo glad it was just a flash in the pan that no one remembers.
Never seriously listened to vaporwave, here's my uneducated and completely vibes-based cultural opinion:It was ethically aligned with libertarianism and the nostalgic focus of that era, something like "vgh, wasn't the purity and innocence of 1985-1995 so fvcking great, bros?" However, this inherently made it a conservative movement - a bunch of mostly low-talent people expressing themselves without serious creative chops or opinions beyond retvrning to a better time. One big genre response to art from the past, all carried by the internet. "Vgh, check this Greek statuary." "These cartoons? They're my childhood, and now they have music in a minor key backing them." "Remember when music was good? Here are these culturally acceptable tunes again, but slowed down to .75x with Garage Band filters." "1980s Japan is so fvcking awesome - it's just like Miami Vice!" Vaporwave's failure, and the failure of libertarianism in general, led to 2016-era politics. Now, vaporwave itself is a nostalgic item. It's the musical equivalent of a 2026 audience being nostalgic for the film Back to the Future, which itself was nostalgic for the 1950s.What IS positive about vaporwave is it never got monetized or corporatized, so it can remain an artifact instead of a product, at least. We don't have to deal with a Taylor Swift vaporwave album or some similarly insane outcome.
>>220574431True. This predates Eccojams by over a decade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rGD7tMTAwo
>>220547430Yeah Slushwave is the best, and there is a small scene releasing good stuff. To be honest a few new artists have extended Telepath's technique and have surpassed him imo. If anyone is interested, Geometric Lullaby on Bandcamp/Youtube is a good channel for slushwave and some other subgenres - it's also ad-free on youtube so you can listen without worrying about ads intruding and ruining the experience. I usually like to listen in bed before sleeping. Two favourites of mine:https://youtu.be/h7a3P7uujCY?si=qnR8LLFMzOdoU7jAhttps://youtu.be/CLCERxOJthU?si=85tjf9k_8LRo5LSG
>>220572846I'd argue it was more, like, ironically presenting an idealized depiction of capitalism based on the optimistic view people had on it during the 80's and 90's. Back when people thought it was this engine for progress and freedom and fairness. And sort of playing with it from a modern perspective where we know none if that panned out. Sort of this requiem for the promise of capitalism where thought it meant working 4 hours a day in an air conditioned office and then going out to buy some wild Japanese Hi-Tech gadget at the mall and hang out and have coffee with some mates at the food court.
>>220574431>>220574573>>220575494yall hyped for the upcoming record? tomorrow's harvest was kinda mid not gonna lie
>>220574676Yeah some people don’t use samples
>>220574390only really happens in weirdo internet microgenres like breakcore or vaporwave.EDM is a chad's field.
>>220575925when did it switch from Techno to EDM?
>>220575966early 2010s for sure. it was already mainstream, but it wasn't techno by then, it was electronica.
>>220574390>>220575925nerds getting genocided
>>220545643WE
>>220575823I already have next friday planned.
>>220576084Swedish House Mafia is so 2011. It’s all about hard dance these days.
>>220575966Techno is the cool term again.
