Why don't they make cool, creative, low budget movies like this anymore?
>>220550661Backrooms is coming out soon
Currently watching Nick Knight, the tv movie that lead to the show Forever Knight, starring Geraint Wyn-Davies, who was in Cube
>>220550661They still do, you are just unable to find them
>>220550947This. And that's true for basically every single of these "Why don't they make X anymore" threads. Ban lazy OPs.
>>220550661Everything is "blockbuster or bust" nowadays.I don't know where the other anons are claiming to see B-movies (as they were once called).
>>220551448>Everything is "blockbuster or bust" nowadays.No, it's not. Where are you getting this dumb shit?
>>220551448it's not all or nothing. It's either very low budget indie stuff, or the safest and biggest bet (franchise movies, cinematic universes)
>>220551496By watching movies, at the theaters. Now how about you backing up your claims?>>220551527>very low budget indie stuffIn other words, bust.
>>220551527No. Definitely not. Not even when taking foreign releases out of the equation.
>>220550661>Why don't they make cool, creative, low budget movies like this anymore?Exit 8, cost 1.4 mil to make, has made 44.https://youtu.be/emZZexEJO8c>>220550689This too. (Although it cost like 10 mil to make).>>220551448I mean, low budget horror exists, anon and it makes money too.Hokum cost 5 mil, has made 18.https://youtu.be/EVCIK_MPyhcObsession has a budget of 1 mil and is getting good buzz.https://youtu.be/gMC8kkwbIQQDon't get me wrong, mid budget movies have been squeezed out, but there are more movies at the cinema than just blockbusters or super low budget indies. I go to the cinema once a week, plenty of good stuff on. Unfortunately marketing is dead and online personalities barely talk about films anymore.
>>220551636>online personalities barely talk about films anymoreYeah, why is this? I used to love RedLetterMedia, but then they seemingly stopped reviewing new movies altogether.
>>220551636good poast>>220550661Buffet Infinity just came out for an extremely low budget. It's worth watching.
>>220551736Who cares? How can you even stand looking at Mike and his circus? Get good at tracking shit yourself, lazy nigga.
>>220551784Who cares if you don't care, nigger? You off-topic shitposting retard.I do still enjoy some channels, especially Jeremy Jahns. But I wish there were more.
>>220551841OP is extremely low quality lazy nigga shit. And you are a fucking pleb.
>>220551736Red Letter Media do talk about some movies, especially their mid year movie round up (and TV/streaming shows they have seen). In general they stopped reviewing the big blockbuster movies (especially superhero stuff), have been doing more of their gimmick stuff (BotW) or reviewing shit like Star Trek. But their mid year stuff occasionally has some good films.A lot of the big movie Youtubers talk more culture wars/narrative than films. You could easily find something once a week to watch and be happy. My cinema has a subscription card, for a monthly fee you see as many films as you like and it is worth it for me. If there isn't something new they usually have something old or something else to try.>>220551762>good poastSome more upcoming movies, or stuff that has been released this year.Tuner, about a piano tuner who becomes a safe cracker, another lower budget film.https://youtu.be/AKfGU0kUHQcRose of Nevada, a fisihing boat goes missing then reappears 30 years later. (1.3 million budget I think)https://youtu.be/bw371ui9cTkPassenger, another horror about a demonic stalker.https://youtu.be/eNIn8kW1kyENormal, Bob Odenkirk becomes a Sheriff of a town with a secret.https://youtu.be/5OndK0w1lYY
>>220551938>Normal, Bob Odenkirk becomes a Sheriff of a town with a secret.20 million budget is pushing the low budget title.
>>220551938>their mid year movie round up (and TV/streaming shows they have seen)Yeah, these are still nice. But in the past they would review a lot of new movies. Many times that alone would get me to the theaters, just because I saw they have a review up. (Which I would then watch AFTER seeing the movie, heh.)>My cinema has a subscription cardSomething like this was just introduced to my local kinoplex. I haven't tried it yet, but I'm planning to. It costs about 30 euros a month to see unlimited amount of movies, with a couple of asterisks. With the new card I might try watching more obscure movies, although commute and snacks are still a problem, heh... I'm curious how much your card costs?
>>220550661Terrifier series was pretty succesfull
>>220551938These look fun, Rose of Nevada especially.
Roofman cost around 20 million.The Drama cost around 30 million.Warfare cost around 20 million.The Apprentice cost around 15 million.Good Luck, Have Fun, Don't Die cost around 20 million.Reasonably well-known, high-quality, fresh, non-foreign, low-mid budget, non-horror movies.
>>220552055>curious how much your card costs?In euros around 22. And you get money off food (10%), better seats, extras. Most of the cinemas where I live have upgraded to comfortable adjustable seats (you can use a button to get into recliner mode with your legs right up and still space to walk around them, pic related as an example of the sort). I live near by so popping in once a week minimum is easy. Plenty of new stuff on, old stuff playing and more.>But in the past they would review a lot of new moviesTo be fair I think a lot of their main movie output was the bigger releases. They definitely stopped. I remember The Batman came out and they just said, nope, cannot be bothered, and people kept pestering them for that. it became a meme. They should do more, but I also understand if they don't want to anymore. They have a love and hate thing going on. They bitch about the cinema experience but then also talk about some smaller movies they want to succeed. It has definitely slowed a bit.>>220552098That's out currently in the UK. I don't know if it is having a wider release.
Ultrasound (2021)The Artifice Girl (2022)Something in the Dirt (2022)Loop Track (2023)Beyond the Infinite Two Minutes (2020)It Ends (2025)Hallow Road (2025)It’s What’s Inside (2024)None of them are nearly as good as Cube, but they do make them.
>>220550661you got old and less willing to genuinely explore and sift through garbage to find diamonds
>>220552154>In euros around 22. And you get money off food (10%), better seats, extras.>I live near byWow, that's a really good deal! I'm jealous...In the past I went to the movies at least once a month, often more - especially during the summer blockbuster season. But increasing ticket prices and lack of good movies put a stop to that. Well, I still go, but not as frequently anymore. I'm hoping the movie card will inspire me again...
I'll just dump my "looking forward to" list:ArchangelDune: Part ThreeEl Tonto Por CristoElden RingHopeInkPiranesiRay GunnRogue TrooperThe Bookie & the BruiserThe Death of Robin HoodThe Dog StarsThe Last PhotographThe OdysseyThe Origin of the WorldThe Resurrection of the Christ: Part OneThe Resurrection of the Christ: Part TwoWe Are StorrorWildwood
>>220552231>I'm hoping the movie card will inspire me again...Just have to use it, get your moneys worth, don't let it be that subscription you never use. See a trailer? Go and see it. Don't have to research it, don't have to watch reviewers or anything else. Just take a chance. Sometimes I feel like the psychology of consumption around streaming, stuff like culture wars and the internet commentators have warped people's expectations. People are very, all or nothing. People routinely tell you everything is shit whilst also experiencing very little. Not saying you will see kino every week, but you'll see some good stuff more often than not.
>>220552302>People routinely tell you everything is shit whilst also experiencing very little.I agree with you. The constant negativity about new movies, games, etc. really gets to me. Some people seem to love to hate stuff, and it just boggles my mind why...Thanks for all the suggestions, too!
>>220552402>Some people seem to love to hate stuff, and it just boggles my mind why...I think mainstream culture has paradoxies, too much content = choice paralysis, "I can't decide what to watch," whilst at the same time, almost paradoxically, the perception is that everything in the mainstream is the same, meaning there is little to no choice. It is easier to hate than try. It feels like it should be easier to try different things but I think the internet makes it harder sometimes because of these decisions. Fear of missing out anxiety drives viral marketing, you MUST see this, too much fear of missing out leads to burn out and resultant comfort viewing. I don't hate these people. I don't think they are as political as people make out either. I think a lot of it is psychology in interacting with stuff.>Thanks for all the suggestions, too!No problem, hope you find something you enjoy.
>>220552402>The constant negativity about new movies, games, etc. really gets to meNot the actual low quality of the new things?
>>220552513>Not the actual low quality of the new things?That's not real.
>Why don't they make cool, creative, low budget movies like this anymore?Even low budget had some quality thresholds before the content spam environment of the streaming era destroyed all merit in the medium. Conversely, today, literally and provably, anyone with a camera phone can release a "film".
>>220552550>content spam environment of the streaming era destroyed all merit in the mediumLearn to filter out the shit. It's not that hard.
>>220552505>It is easier to hate than try.There seems to be a market for hate, yeah. Or, at least it seems that apathy is the default mode for many people...>>220552513>Not the actual low quality of the new things?In my opinion, good stuff still gets produced and released. That's why the constant negativity is so weird to me. Do people intentionally watch stuff that will make them mad? Or why is everyone such a whiner nowadays? I don't get it.
>>220552513Everything changes, yet everything stays the same. In the golden age of hollywood you had 5x the amount of B reel movies to the A reel movies. B reel films were samey comedies/westerns/romance/musical films. It is where we get the term B movies from. The past often looks better because 99% of it is forgotten about, it is boiled down to what is remembered, what was great, what people are nostalgic for. The present doesn't have the same filters applied to them. You are marketed to and pulled in many different directions.Nowadays the big difference is STUFF. Anyone can make a movie and upload it. The proliferation of content. If we have trouble filtering past stuff, how the fuck can we filter the now? That is a huge problem. But here is the thing, most of these movie reviewers don't talk about such problems, they talk about how, the MCU used to be "good" then became "bad". Let us break this down a bit:>They used to bitch about old MCU films too.>They were with the gimmick and momentum until the gimmick became old.>Plenty of films then were meh too, some of the films now are probably on par.Now if you watch just MCU movies and nothing else, what picture do you have of movies or culture? I see people praise milquetoast blockbusters that do well as if they are any better.When a movie does well financially, that doesn't matter to them. Awards? Who cares. The battle over scores. You know the criticism "overrated" people use is one of the most dumb comments a person can rate. Overrated, "I perceive people to rate this highly (whether true or not) and I think it doesn't deserve the praise". It says nothing about the thing itself, everything about people, wanting to feel better or cleverer than others. Everything now is about expectations. Were they met? Not met? Overrated is about expectations. And this is what so many culture commentators are really talking about. This meta drama. Not actually watching movies and experiencing them.
>>220552771tl;dr kys
>>220552650>I don't get it.They don't really watch anything. They like repeating doomerpill talking points, mainly because their lives suck. As has been sort of mentioned before, there is an issue with monoculture no longer existing and things being delegated to niches that perhaps aren't visible to everyone, though that shouldn't prevent anyone who's actually interested in the medium from finding quality content; databanks exist.
>>220552771Even the B-reel stuff of decades past is FAR above the quality of what's produced nowFeel free to criticize the shit merchants producing the garbage rather than the people noticing that it's shit
>>220553034>Even the B-reel stuff of decades past is FAR above the quality of what's produced nowA lot of it really isn't. It is populist stuff. A lot of it is lame stuff, samey stories, reused sets. Actually go and watch some.>Feel free to criticize the shit merchants producing the garbage rather than the people noticing that it's shitI criticise shit films all the time. I criticise the shit merchants all the time. You can hold multiple opinions at once. When someone says "all culture is shit" I can also criticise that too. Why do people get so mad when people do that? It is insane. I think people should watch more stuff and see if they find something they enjoy. The devil is in the details. Discussion should use examples. Grand narratives of "everything is shit" is the death of discussion, the death of nuance. People NEVER talk in examples and they show how hollow their knowledge is.https://youtu.be/P48-nYPVIxEIn this clip, Critical Drinker says, current Japanese cinema is better than Western cinema. Is he right or wrong, who knows, because the movies he names are Oldboy (South Korean film from 2003) and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Chinese film from 2000). Has he watched any current Japanese cinema? Nope. But he made a big grand assertion that it is better. In another video Critical Drinker complained about masculine rolemodels in cinema. And the examples he gave of past masculine rolemodels were actually considered not very masculine at the time. Again, where is the knowledge.Now of course, Drinker is not behind shit movies (apart from the shit one he made). He is not in control of Hollywood. The Hollywood shit merchants are bad. But what about the good movies? What about the good stuff being created? You rightly criticise the shit merchants but how much stuff are you actually watching? I know I will convince you of nothing. But I would perhaps ask, maybe take a chance on something and be more positive in your exploration of the medium.
>>220550661They do. They just get no advertising, so you don't hear about them until they become cult classics decades later.
>>220553282How the fuck is advertising so fucking bad nowadays. All the data and metrics in the world and yet it's impossible to advertise shit now.
>>220553332Movies used to mainly be advertised trough previews and trailers at the movie theaters, and TV ads. People are going to theaters less now, so the see fewer previews, and everyone has cut their cable and switched to streaming, so they don't see tv ads as much anymore, either. Even though most streaming services have ads now, they rarely show ads for upcoming movies for some reason.
>>220553434Even so, with social media and supposed better advertising they should be able to do something.
>>220550661>why?the music video > tv advertising> filmakingpipeline is dead
>>220553508People don't want to see films, media is in flux, old mediums are waning to the new, movies are too expensive compared to streaming. They only see films if they feel like they matter via intense fear of missing out viral pushes. That fear of missing out makes them overcome the issues of seeing a movie. No virality, no success story. Normal marketing is not the same as good viral marketing.
>>220552650>Do people intentionally watch stuff that will make them mad?No, we or at least I don't even bother. I've been burnt too many times already. I know modern stuff sucks. I don't need to see the new Alien because I already know it will be bad. I watched the trailer just to confirm that.I've been going into movies blind, with little prior research already. And while 15 years ago you could get lucky it's way worse now and you have to sift through too much garbage. The people who don't get this always strike me as the sort that have sorry lives and look at movies for escapism. They can't grasp that others are fine with admitting that movies are shit and it's not going to get better any time soon and move on. Obviously anons will ridicule you for this no matter what but name just a few great modern movies just so we understand your point.
>>220550689>BlackroomsWE WUZ
>>220552055I have Regal Unlimited, $25.71/month for unlimited tickets and 10% off concessions. Just today watched Top Gun(0/10, disgusting military propaganda with tons of smoking including around children), Obsession(1/10, pretty cool horror movie but has smoking and no tits), Gundam movie(1/10, Gundam fun but there is smoking), MIB and Is God Is(0/10, fun revenge thriller but lots of smoking)>>220552174>The Artifice Girl (2022)I 100% thought no one else on /tv/ watched it
>>220551448here are just some of the movies that came out on may 12th to may 13th this last week.
>>220550661capeslop and cgi ruined movies
>>220550842Cube 2: Hypercube*
>>220550661"they" are dead.
They aren'tBut I am
>>220554157Are they any good?
I honestly don't get the obsession with jumping to the defense of a dead industry. Happens in every medium, there's a cohort for some reason that's perfectly fine with the proverbial middle class dying out and having what's left become 10x worse than it used to be. Based on what I have seen there is a lot of overlap with onions-coded types of people who don't really care about the quality of something as long as there is a steady stream of flashing lights on demand. Glad to be proven wrong if someone can explain what's happening here
There are ideas like glass ceiling,high concept, and low profit. All of these combine to make a cube. Cube4 when? i'll watch cube 3 if cube4 comes out
>>220552820No, you. Fucking no attention span little bitter incel faggot.Don't you ever shame people for making long posts.
>>220550661Another fun, very low budget film with Julian Richings is The Limb Saleman - 2004.
>>220554679Also I'm always paranoid it's just a massive marketing campaign given that 50% of this site is bots for instance
>>220554625dunno, just pointing out all kinds of movies come out constantly including low budget ones."it ends" came out last year and had something like a $50k budget and was pretty good.
>>220554679Yep, I think these are people who are strongly influenced by group consensus, and people saying "this sucks" threatens that consensus. That's why they're such massive hype beasts
>>220555474>people saying "this sucks" threatens that consensusYou got it totally ass-backwards. Because if someone is actually enjoying something, he's obviously a paid astroturfing shill bot, like you lamers always say.
>>220555474>these are people who are strongly influenced by group consensus, and people saying "this sucks" threatens that consensusThe consensus is "this sucks," you delusional hack.>>220555694>You got it totally ass-backwardsThis.
>>220556481>The consensus is "this sucks," you delusional hack.Not in the press, on youtube, or on literally every other website except here
>>220556536Of course it is. Everything's full of "Why shit doesn't look/sound/feel like so and so anymore" videos. Everyone's constantly bitching about it.
>>220554679The sentiment on internet forums, and especially this site, is that everything is worse now than before. Be it film, video games, or anime. For two out of three of those, that's simply not the case.
Every year there's plenty low budget sci-fi / horror premiering at festival circuit. Divinity is pretty good.
>>220550661they do. you just have to search for them
>>220550661What i've actually noticed is they don't really seem to make movies where you have to think anymore, like whatever happened to twists and trippie concepts
>>220550661I don't think you realise how difficult it is to write a compelling story set in one or two rooms. And even if you get the script you need the actors to make it work which is easier said than done >>220551636That movie wasn't low budget
>>220552231How is that woman able to survive with a popcorn bag body like that?
>>220557768Compared to what?
Everyone saying they exist you just have to find them, how can we find them?
>>220557847>That movie wasn't low budgetExit 8? It had a budget of 1.4 million. How is that not low budget? What's your definition of low budget.
>>220558607You can literally just Google upcoming movies..
>>220550661Because people dont buy DVD's anymore and streaming doesnt pay shit. These movies used to make fortunes through DVD sales
>>220558134The 90s were full of movies with plot twist and mind-bending concepts. The Game, Primal fear, Sixth Sense ect
>>220554786Never heard of it. Will check out.
>>220554679People construct grand narratives, like they say all culture is bad. How can they say this when they watch so very little or they decide something is bad based on not even seeing it. Whenever someone challenges that, to you, they have to be shills or politically s o y coded who don't care about quality.Why can't we have third opinions? Or nuance? I agree the industry has huge problems, it is dying because we are in a state of transition as new media rises and the old hasn't caught up with this reality. There is plenty of bad films. They should be criticised. Rightly so. The industry should be criticised.But when people want to talk positively about a movie, well they are shills, they are lefties who like everything. So why come online to discuss anything? It's all bad so it's all over right? So many people have constructed these narratives because many mainstream blockbusters are bad. But the don't want to experience anything else. Trying requires effort.There is no metric that will please the "everything is bad" crowd. Enjoyable stuff is sometimes harder to find, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. But if all you experience is the same doom and gloom you'll never find it. You know as well as I do that I cannot prove you wrong. I can post movies, you can say they're bad without even seeing them. Nothing I say will convince you. You'll label me one way. Even though I criticised things plenty. These grand narratives are applied too easily by people wanting to sell you that same narrative. God forbid you actually take a chance on something and maybe enjoy it. No, you need the consensus of the people of a certain type. It is tiresome.
>>220558792You are such a fucking knob honestly
>>220550661>ctrl+f platform>0 results
>>220558830He's right, you know.
>>220551762i enjoyed a lot buffet infinity but i admit it is a niche movie, some people are gonna love it others are gonna hate it
>>220559238>cool
>>220558792One thing you've done is assume that people haven't tried new stuff which isn't always true. Also I think you've always had to "dig" past a certain point but I'll have you admit that at some points in time movies playing at theaters were actually pretty high tier on a regular basis. The last thing I'll say is that if there's a tendency but you're set on defending the edge cases you look like the person asking about the end of a bell curve and wondering why people don't attribute it to the rest of the thing.
>>220556584They don't actually believe anything they see or read online, it's entirely in-group signalling. We know this because companies still rake in massive profits, it doesn't come from nowhere.
>>220550661This was pretty good. I even saw it in the cinema when it came out.
>>220561098>Ryan Reynolds
>>220551636I don't get why Exit 8 got so much good press.
>>220552231movie card where i am is 19.90 euros a month, tickets are 12 to 17 euros (3d dolby shit). If you go even just once a month on average it makes no sense not to get the card, I don't get it.Snacks are stupidly expensive though, like 7 euros for the smallest popcorn and 5 euros a bottle of water. The only time I went this year I just brought my own stuff in my backpack, i'm too old for them to check my bag anyways.I don't have the card anymore since I live far from the city center now, but what I liked most about it back when I did was going to a random movie everyday after work. No trailer, not even a look at the poster, just going off of titles. If the movie sucked, I just walked out.
>>220552513I've been going to the movies frequently since I was a child, I am 34. Most movies coming out have always been trash, nothing has changed you just only remember the good stuff.
>>220553867>The people who don't get this always strike me as the sort that have sorry lives and look at movies for escapism.Isn't the same reasoning applied in reverse to you if so desired? Like ''the people who are disappointed have sorry lives and expect too much from movies''? I can somewhat agree with you on the rest of your reasoning but this one seemed like either baiting for replies or some personal bitterness seeping in.
>>220553867>but name just a few great modern movies just so we understand your pointThere are plenty, if you don't have unrealistic standards. People hold "classics" in way higher regard than would be proper, in a lot of cases. Also, don't outright dismiss digital photography and computer-generated imagery, and you may enjoy the medium.
>>220560546Certainly, any experimental film will be like that.
>>220558830Anon, I genuinely try to talk to people and discuss things. Then people read a tone and attitude I don't intend because they don't want to talk in good faith. We could have a normal chat about things without that. I'm open to opposing viewpoints. You think I'm a knob but look at how you knee jerk react to things. Come on.>>220560825>One thing you've done is assume that people haven't tried new stuff which isn't always true.You're right, I am assuming and I shouldn't always, but more often than not people aren't trying things. I hear people tell me things are awful without having seen them all the time. Especially on /tv/. >wondering why people don't attribute it to the rest of the thing.Because in a way the 90/10 rule has always applied. 90% of things bad, 10% varying degrees of good. Of course things have changed, industries have changed, mediums have changed. See I acknowledge all that. I acknowledge all the problems. I simply deny the "everything is shit" narrative and that makes people angry for what? People are all or nothing. Yes, there are people who blindly love everything. I'm not one of those people, even though people act like I am when discussing films. But there are also people who blindly hate stuff. Why can't there be a middle ground? I'm not defending the industry or defending things. I'm simply denying these grand narratives that colour people's expectations and prevent people from bothering.
>>220561098I completely forgot about this movie, yeah it was a pretty good time. The director also made Red Lights which was alright as well (great cast)
>>220562536>Why can't there be a middle ground?There is, only on /tv/ you get a bunch of anons addicted to (You)s or with an online persona that conforms to whatever is popular on the board so most of the actual discussion is buried under negative posts. On reddit it's the same but reversed where discussion of a popular movie in it's subreddit is overwhelmingly positive and similarly the posts have 0 content other than ''Wow, this movie was incredible, definitely in my top 10'' with thousands of redditors chiming in with their ''personal take'' everyday while in reality just glazing the movie.
>>220550661The acting in this is horrendous and makes it unwatchable.
I suppose it depends what you mean by a low budget film. I really enjoyed Banshees of Inisherin, a film that is certainly not blockbuster material, but does have a film star and decent production values. Heretic is a good film that takes place in a single location, and mostly consists of people talking in rooms, but again, it has a film star and doesn't look cheap.
everything is focus-tested boardroom hollywood slop nowadaysthe boomer producers won't greenlight anything that hasn't made money before
>>220550661not many interesting films were made at Tha time just more than now.there definitely were low/mid budget scifi that were actually scifi and interesting/intelligent, that weren't meant to be universally appealing.that's the main difference there became e shift to the idea that films should be sellable to almost all demographics in all countries worldwide for maximum sales and minimal quality.that's the true nature of the slop epidemic.if they can sell 200 million units in china, 50 million in SEA, and 100 million in south america or to illegal mexicans, they'll do it and they'll tailor the film to be a sloppable as possible for the swine.niche genres don't exist anymore
>>220551636Thanks for the rec
>>220550661the endless was kino, it 5 bucks to make toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMHpWCN0byw
