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Is it even possible to have a woman be the main villain in a Bond film or would people never be able to take it seriously?

It’s interesting because by far, most of the main antagonists of Bond novels and movies are not physical threats at all, they’re in fact often cripples or weak in some way and run organisations and have grand schemes instead of brute force or personal skill in violence
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>>220553536
Make her a butch dyke and people will take her seriously
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>>220553561
haha
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>>220553536
>it even possible to have a woman be the main villain in a Bond film
sure, but modern writers are absolute hacks so it wouldn't work
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>>220553619
How would you do it?
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>>220553536
Rosa Klebb was the main villain in From Russia with Love. Red Grant was just the henchman like Oddjob
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We never had Famke Janssen in her prime playing the Baroness
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>>220553536
Sure. There's lots of power hungry, psychopathic women out there. They just tend to manipulate from their shadows and avoid the limelight that their male counterparts seek. Ghislaine Maxwell for example was just as bad, if not arguably worse than Epstein, but the latter was the face of the whole thing. I think you would just have to play into that. Set up a typical male Bond supervillain at first, then reveal that he's actually just being manipulated by his wife. There's loads of powerful guys irl who have a woman behind the scenes pulling their strings.

The real question is if they would have the balls to do it, because the Bond franchise is already under a lot of fire for "misogyny" and making a female villain might exacerbate that.
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>>220553536
>giving a shit about this smoking advertising spook promoting propaganda
FUCK no
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>>220553536
I’d argue Elektra King was actually the primary villain of The World is Not Enough.

Regard is more of a red herring and enforcer for her.

The movie actively misleads us into believing Bond and M’a analysis of the situation

>Renard kidnapped Elektra as a teenager to ransom her to her billionaire father
>he cuts off her ear to send to him as a threat
>her father never paid on M’s advice and she is never returned, Bond and M think she is now Renard’s lover because of Stockholm syndrome and fear of him

Except she shows up alive and well. Kills her father with Renard and it’s revealed they are lovers, and she cut off her own fucking ear to send to her father.

Renard may technically be the “leader” of his little crew but he’s more of a lightning Rod for intelligence services to focus on. Every major decision was clearly Elektra’s. Renard literally has a bullet in the brain and is gradually dying as it drifts inward so he had little time left regardless. Elektra is the one who tells him to fire the nuke at the oil pipeline before Bond shoots her
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Women don't have the same biological desires for power like men do so it wouldn't be realistic. A woman needs a team to lead to be powerful enough to be a threat and there's no way that men would listen to a female leader telling them to do dangerous stuff like killing people. It can work in fantasy movies if they have supernatural powers like Game of Thrones and Danerys.
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>>220553819
Just make her a tranny then
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>>220553819
>Women don't have the same biological desires for power like men
They do, they just go about achieving it in different ways. Women tend to hitch themselves to powerful men or men they think have the potential for power, so they can reap the benefits without having to do the hard work or face the public scrutiny that men do to achieve that power. Behind a lot of powerful men are women supporting them and pushing them.
It's less common but there are women who go after power directly too. Hillary Clinton, Taylor Swift (not the kind of power you'd normally think of in this context, but she ruthlessly built an empire around herself). Catherine the Great, Wu Zetian, Elizabeth I.
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>>220553637
not sure but not like this >>220553728
i wouldn't want to make her sexy or crazy, because 95% of the time you have a "bad women" shes just sexy. or crazy. like thats it
i just looked up a list of the top 20 female villains or something and most all play off their overt sexuality or just make them insane
the girls from kill bill, catwoman? that frizzy haired bitch from Harry Potter
it wasn't until the last two on the list that you had roles like Kathy Bates in Misery (actually crazy, not just quirky) and pic related
but with the history of bond girls it might be too much too ask
curiously you can write "good" female characters by just making them strong and capable like you would write any man and people want to give you rewards for it
like the way Judi Dench did M in the latest 007s, perfectly fine, just make her into a villain
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>>220554002
women crave status and want to be at the top of whatever they are involved in but they won't use brute-force malicious means to achieve that in the way a bond villain would. All of the female leaders you mentoned were already involved with top level politics and just wanted to move on to the next step. You won't have a woman who is just kind of a regular person leading a revolution and forcing her way into running a country the way other men do.
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>>220554117
>You won't have a woman who is just kind of a regular person leading a revolution and forcing her way into running a country the way other men do.
Maybe, but that's not the only way to achieve power. Scheming, manipulating, and playing socio-political games are also a form of chasing power and women absolutely engage in those. Attaching themselves to powerful men is also a form of achieving power, again just not in a way you'd recognize through a male lens. But it doesn't make it any less Machiavellian. They have different methods, but the end goals are largely similar.



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