Hartigan>sacrifices everything he has, goes to prison and kills himself to save a girlMarv>goes on a killing spree and accepts the electric chair with open arms because a random lady was nice to him one timeDwight>puts everything on the line to chase down some dude who beat up some chick he hooked up with, and ends up starting a literal gender war. he is on team woman, of course.More like Simp City, am I right?
An old man dies, a young woman lives. Fair trade.
>>220557007Damn cool movie if I may say so
>>220557007>More like Simp CityIn the literal sense, since they were all strippers, whores and prostitutes.
>>220557448yeah, they're not even wife material, wtf lol. some thirsty niggas in sin city I tell u
>>220557007Benecio was cool in this
>>220557523His character is a total punching bag throughout the film though. Whether it's Dwight nearly drowning him in his own piss or the Asian lady turning him into a pez dispenser, guy can't catch a break.
>>220557007You made this thread yesterday. If you're going to keep pushing your "Simp City" meme, you could at least put in some effort and photoshop the poster with that title.
>>220557573WTF, just checked the archive, and you're right. I swear, that other guy wasn't me; I haven't visited this place in days. What are the odds, huh?
>>220557553Frank Miller promised a prequel telling how he became a corrupt police officer but I guess twenty years of waiting means that nothing will come out of it
>>220557007>DwightUnironically picked the wrong story out comics for him for the first movie. Should have had A Dame To Kill For in the first movie. Side effect would have been that sequel would have sucked even harder, but reality is that graphic novels don't have enough material for multiple good movies.
>>220557789Frank Miller hasn't written anything good for ages. New prequel story would have probably sucked.
>>220557007the idea of sin city is that there are no actual good guys that you should admire, they're all bad people doing bad things to worse people
>>220558577Sin City as comic was born out of frustration. Studio fucked up Robocop 3 so hard that Frank Miller made a comic that would break all the Hollywood standards so badly that it would never be made into movie... that didn't exactly go as planned.
>>220557007It's called being a gentleman. Something zoomers and millenials are not, no wonder they barely get sex
>>220558620i chuckled
>>220557007>HartiganIt was about staying true to himself, selling out the girl would be selling out himself.>MarvDude was just pissed and looking to cause some violence. From the beginning, he isn't someone who is to attached to his life.>DwightThis is kinda the weakest part of the movie, plotwise. I also don't remember it as well as the other parts.
>>220558692Integrity.
this is the entirety of all american media, it's just men simping for women never for themselves and what they want, ever, it's always for some cunt
>>220559008It's a trend but it's not the entirety. War movies disregard women, and Hollywood has made a lot of those.
>>220557007
>>220557080Worth living for, worth dying for. Worth going to hell for.>Amen.
>>220559008Sin City is a fun movie, but it's fascinating how devoid it is of any semblance of brotherhood whatsoever. Except for the protagonists, every single man is a complete scumbag, and every story revolves around either protecting or avenging women. There's that one line from Dwight's internal monologue where he sympathizes with and admires Marv, but except for that, there is zero warmth between the male characters in the film. It feels like something written by a man with serious daddy and mommy issues.
>>220557523>NOBODY EVER REALLY QUIIIiiiitts...>those hookers let you down!every line he has is quotable
>>220559278They dont hang out or are even friends with each other. Dwight acknowledges Mary's brutish violence but partisan was a cop and would have had animosity for each other.
>>220557522I’m not sure if you were paying attention while playing on your phone, but the guys weren’t exactly winners at life either.
>>220557007Josh Hartnett murders women and gets paid to do it. Check mate thirdie.
>>220559154The Dark Knight Returns
>>220559108>Pearl Harbor>Joyeux Noel>Enemy At the GatesThey're not supposed to but Hollywood has made of a lot which do, too.
>ultra-masculine features>built like a brick shit house>deep, gravely voice>stylish as fuck>rizz and aura of the charts>women clearly feel safe and comfortable around him>is still supposed to be so repulsive that he can't even solicit a hookerThere truly is no demographic more marginalized than ugly people, because when movies attempt to depict their struggles, they still make them good-looking, cool and well-liked.
>>220559419Just bathe and wear clean underwear; women'll like you then.
>>220559300I dunno, Hartigan is self-sacrificing to the point of martyrdom, Dwight is a womanizing, aura-farming rizz king and Marv is a one-man army with a heart of gold. Seem like pretty cool dudes to me.
>>220559471??????But women already like me.
>>220559553Then bathe and clean THEIR underwear. ffs, leave me alone.
>>220559567>leave me alone.??????But you were the one who replied to me.
>>220559471I want to say this is not enough, plenty of guys have good hygiene who still can't get laid, but I think the bigger problem is that plenty of women are attracted to them but don't say shit, so nothing comes of it. Seriously if we just made it a rule that women HAVE to initiate, so much societal bullshit will just evaporate. Yeah, sure all the top guys will still get mad puss, but some dorky guy will probably be able to bang the kinda plain chick who he didn't even realise liked him.
This movie and the related books fucked me up. I was already living the same type of lifestyle as the characters in the movie, and was in a really low point, met this hooker who took me in and we just fucked and did meth for like four days straight. Went to regroup and just chill out, watched this movie with friends and he even had the books, in my rock bottom state I thought it was a sign and I was in love with the hooker and she was my salvation and the only one pulling me out and then I went back to see her, move back in and there was already some other dude there. I fucked then up and bounced, fucked her a few times since then but haven’t seen her in almost twenty years now. But man that led to such a spiral. I’m sober now for awhile with the exception of weed and pills and sometimes booze. And only see hookers occasionally. Have a girl for like five years. But need the strange. Life is crazy like that.
>>220559696Even if you approach a chick you know for a fact likes you, they generally start playing hard to get or shit testing and playing stupid games because they either think that's how you're supposed to act or some stupid shit.
>>220559880>except for the weed, pills, booze and hookers, i'm sober and happily marriedDanke shoen, mein freund. I haven't had a chuckle this good in a while.
>>220559880What do you do now?
>>220559974>and playing stupid gamesShit is so fucking annoying. I knew a chick in high school who I would have gone out with in a heartbeat, and one day when she was out of earshot her friend starts asking me questions like if I thought the chick was sexy or whatever, which I skirted around because I didn't want to look like a creep. Found out years later that it was apparently the chick's idea to see if I liked her because she had a crush on me. Still hold a little torch in my heart for that chick and I'll never get to know if it could have been something because she played stupid games and I didn't want to come off creepy and lose a friend.Even the most die-hard "feminist" will still say shit like "men should make the first move because they're supposed to" what the fuck is wrong with women?
>>220559108War movies are men simping for Jews
>>220560119They want to see if you're confident or not, as that's the true turn-on. The fact that someone who's thinking with their gonads makes such a misstep is often unfairly construed as playing some sort of mind game; when in actual fact, they were so hot for your seed, and frustrated that you weren't confidently approaching them first (as would the confident), that they resorted to the only strength they had, which is subterfuge in a vain attempt to gain your affections and attentions.
what happened to comics? Does anyone make comics/cartoons anymore? Remember reading funny papers as kid and liked shit like calvin and hobbes or boondocks. Manga took over and its become weird shit like chainsaw man rather then old kino like yugioh. Kind of repulsed walking past some manga book/anime junk stores these days.
>>220560112I have a job that keeps me busy, I pray to Jesus Christ daily and try and live in a way that honors Him.
>>220560367It was those selfsame comics, particularly The Far Side, and C&H, both of which capitalized on the bizarre, if to an attenuated extent. Once you accept the bizarre/extreme as a form of entertainment, you have to keep raising the bar for the dopamine rush. See: erotica evolving from pin-up girls to degenerate porn. Rock > metal, rap > gangster rap, etc.
>>220559880You may have made some mistakes in your life, but by God, it sounds to me like you have truly lived. What is the point of even living if one can't fall in love with a hooker ever now and then?
>>220558692>Dwight>This is kinda the weakest part of the movie, plotwise. I also don't remember it as well as the other parts.It isn't start of his story, also it isn't start of his relationship whores of the old city. Favors owed and being paid back. It is easily the weakest part of the story, it is in the comics as well. They should have used A Dame To Kill For as Dwights story in the first movie, but as already said it would create a problem. There wouldn't be enough good stories for sequel and no Marv in it. Chronology of the comics is non-linear. First book, Sin City, retroactively the Hard Goodbye, the Marv story happens in the middle of second book, A Dame To Kill For.
>>220558556I think it kinda works the way it is, tbqh. The story of Hartigan is really tragic, and the story of Marv is pretty dark and sinister, so Dwight's story being a little bit lighter lends the film better pacing, since he is sandwiched in the middle. There's no deep emotion, no sense of tragedy, it's just Dwight being cool for half an hour, so it allows the movie to breathe a little bit between the heavier arcs.
>>220561173This here. I've not lived nearly half of what he did, but I count the "low point"/heavy drinking years of my life as the most lived--by God, some of the shit I got to do. If heaven is being able to live out the best time of your life but for eternity, and I get to go there when I die, I'm absolutely choosing that. Nevermind some gay-ass Christmas with the family bullshit and some 80yo old woman's gingerbread cookies.
The Ozark girl was very sexy in 2 and I would suck her toes
>>220559338Doesn't Selina Kyle run an escort service in that?
>>220560367Kids got new entertainment with vidya and manga. Then western comic book industry for most parts committed sudoku with rusty butter knife.>>220561310It just leaves the best Sin City story out of the first film, but the best story wasn't enough to carry the sequel on its own as other stories on sequel were much weaker. First film should have been Sin City/Hard Goodbye-A Dame To Kill For-Yellow Bastard. There should be no sequel.
>>220560322That's some massive cope>They want you to not be a loser while they act like a loserThey're playing games and trying to be 2smrt4uuuuu and fucking themselves. You're also ignoring the part where if you confidently approach them, they still do this shit and make themselves unattractive or too much trouble to be with and then cry about not being able to find a ((((real)))) man.
>>220561420Bear in mind, my opinion is strictly coming from someone who has never read the comics, and I haven't even seen the sequel, since many said it was bad, so I never bothered. For someone who has no knowledge of Sin City outside of the first film, I think Dwight's arc works well within that film and I really like it, but I get that a Sin City fan with knowledge of the comics would feel differently.I am that way with Watchmen. Absolutely adore the comic, countless problems with the movie, though people who have never read the comics do not share my frustrations with the film.
>>220561554There really isn't much else in the comics.
>>220561448Jfc, talk about massive cope.
Is this the new daily post?
>>220557007Fun fact, I've had this movie on my hard drive for around 15 years and still haven't watched it.
>>220560367>what happened to comics?Comics worked in an era where print media was cheap and disposable. Where there were enough artists churning out cheap artwork that you could produce relative slop (with some real quality stuff) and have it printed and distributed at a low enough cost that kids picking it up for $1 was enough to sustain an industry. But that's not how it is anymore. It's cheaper today to make a Youtube video than it is to make a comic book, and the former has no distribution costs or overhead or shops that need to make middle-man profit. Before comic books, the slop entertainment of the day was pulp magazines and short stories. Writers (like Lovecraft, Howard, etc.) wrote cheap disposable sci-fi and fantasy stories that were published in cheap magazines and annuals that people bought for pennies to read. That's just not how the world is today. Manga survives largely because it's still considered a relevant medium in Japan (Korea has turned basically 100% to digital distribution) but it's a sinking industry and only the most wide-appeal mass-producible stuff sells. Plus the artists work themselves to death for basically no money.
>>220561554>I am that way with Watchmen. Absolutely adore the comic, countless problems with the movie, though people who have never read the comics do not share my frustrations with the film.As someone who has owned the comics and worn them out long before the movies existed, I have no problems with the Watchment movie. I think it accomplishes most of the same things, with some added stuff that makes it a distinct entity. But as far as Sin City comics go, honestly the movies are basically a perfect stand-in because they were functionally made to be 100% shot-for-shot. If you watched the movies, you got the comics, they don't add anything and they don't take anything away. The only real difference is the actual artwork, I think Miller's art in Sin City is a masterpiece but the films go far enough in translating as much as possible about the look without it having to just be a fully animated thing so it can capture the really stylized nuances. Basically, if you liked the movie, the comics are good but you're not going to really see much more than a few little bits that didn't make the cut.
>>220561801The Spirit was the peak of them and it was all downhill after that
>>220557007Currently watching it, yes, it's Simp City.How good was the sequel? I want to watch it.
>>220561801nta, but same thoughts re. Watchmen. Loved the movie so much, I went out & rebought the comic just to read it again.Never read Sincity comics, but the (del Toro) Hellboy movies inspired me to get the comics, which I enjoyed, though not as much as the movies. I think of Miller & Mignola having kind of similar art styles.
>>220560367>what happened to comics?Suicide by SJWs
>>220559567I may be a pimp, but I ain't washin no clothes
>>220561893Mignola is definitely influenced a decent bit by Miller, taking a lot of his use of heavy chunks of black and strong use of negative space, though he went in a pretty different direction with it. Both have used a very stripped-down ink-focused comic art style that doesn't really prioritized perfectly clean and tight ink lines that a lot of other popular comic artists really cared about. I really suggest people pick up and read Sin City comics. They're fun, they're simple, and even though I knew the stories by heart I still wore my copies out until they fell apart re-reading them.
>>220561671>Fun fact, I've had this movie on my hard drive for around 15 years and still haven't watched it.If you can, try to find the theatrical cut. The version that was released on DVD re-edited all the scenes to take place in a different order to make the story more normalfag-friendly, but the DVD cut is the version most rips are sourced from.
>>220561173>>220561351I thought that way for a very long time, living as a man apart is truly addictive but my problem since a very young age is a sexual addiction and delusions of grandeur. I’m intelligent and handsome so it was a bad combo. I threw away my teens and twenties living poorly. Now I am in my 40s and while I still have pangs of missing that lifestyle, I am happy with my life now and cannot help but think back with regret as well, especially seeing others my age and their success with life - not monetary because I make good money but the straight laced family thing. At the end of the day my experiences are just that and I will forever be a man apart good or bad. But I do have incredible stories that even shock myself!
>>220562051>Says all this and doesn't have a link themselvesSounds like bullshit to me
>>220562133>but the straight laced family thingI never got to experience this either. . It wasn't like I "had it all" then threw it all away on drink. Or that I gave up drinking and magically I had a wholesome life. There was no hope for that for me in the first place, and that realization is what turned me to drink. Serendipitously, and probably accidentally, I started living for the first time in my live after I started drinking. It very well might not have happened the way it did and I would have just turned out another miserable drunk, but turns out those were the best times.
>>220561173>it sounds to me like you have truly livedWow gee, taking drugs and having mindless sex like an animal, so much living!! The things you retards care about...
>>220559419>>220559471I'm bald
>>220562263Thank you for the conversation, Brother. The loss of the truly living part is the hardest to cope with. I was living wrong but I wasn’t an evil person, but my life was filled with danger, paranoia, very high highs and very low lows. Rarely dull moments. It was NYC, Chicago, LA, Miami. Live by the gun, I really thought of myself as a modern incarnation of the western gunfighter. My heart is racing thinking about it :) But man I am telling you, my life after turning to Christ and just living with love towards all is just so amazing. I’m not going to preach but literally saved my life. I have a wonderful 20-something gf, close with my father, have developed a nice group of friends that know nothing of who I was and only know me as the man I am now. Life is good Brother! But I still walk as an imperfect man and I still lust. I hope you are having a great Sunday.
>>220561671No better time than the present. It's a pretty breezy watch if you have the stomach for heavy on-screen violence. The film coasts by more on stylistic flair and noir coolness than thematic depth. It's just really slick, fast-paced and fun. The closest thing I can think of that resembles it in entertainment value is Kill Bill.
>>220562348So is Bruce Willis who is the star of the film we're discussing. Baldness didn't stop him.
>>220562051I remember that the credits rolled at least twice in the version I downloaded. What's up with that?
>>220562405Were you dealing drugs or something?