Prequelnigger will look you straight in the eyes and without a hint of sarcasm tell you this was an underappreciated cinematic gem.
>>220560956Attack of the Clones is unironically the best Star Wars film out of them all.>Best soundtrack>Best set design>Best alien design>Best noir mystery plot >Best fight scenehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oHb7slCZCc>Hottest love interestThe hate it attracts is just bewildering.
>>220560956The prequels were much better written, they had actual characters and story, not a bunch of memes and one-liners that lack any emotion or coherence. Luke is a cliched everyboy "hero" that goes through an absurdly rapid transformation between the fifth and the sixth episodes. Anakin's emotional instability and his exposure as a psychopath are gripping; and his doomed relationship with Padme is touching. In the "original trilogy" Han, Leia, Darth Vader and Obi Wan are complete meme characters, nothing about them is remotely believable or human. And why doesn't anyone care about deaths in those movies? Leia's planet destruction, Luke's stepparents' death, all of the blown up rebels--the list could go on--all the deaths are forgotten moments later.As for direction, the movies from the "original trilogy" were mostly incoherent, badly edited and full of logical problems. The prequel trilogy is a work of a "vulgar auteur".I feel neutral about the series overall, and honestly don't care about trolling or contrarianism. Here are my sincere rankings:1. "Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones"2. "Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace"3. "Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith"4. "Star Wars"5. "The Empire Strikes Back"6. "Return of the Jedi"7.8. "The Force Awakens"9. "The Last Jedi"10. "Rise of Skywalker"Episodes 7, 8 and 9 aren't even Star Wars movies. They are Marvel flicks masquerading as one.https://starwarsintrocreator.kassellabs.io/#!/BLradVTpWFVzn_jw1zjD
its funny to think george intentionally shat up the "special editions" so a new generation wouldn't appreciate the OT as good movies anymore.
>>220560956The prequels are great.
>>220560956Why are they at Vito’s construction site?
>>220561266>Count Dooku, my arch-nemesis.
>>220561917>no it was the other way around, Vito was... blowing the geonosian
>>220561049If it was executed better it would be. The ideas are great. He needed more direction and input instead of free reign.
>>220561049>Padme automatically assumes Count Dooku is behind her assassination attempts without any evidence>On behalf of Nute Gunray Dooku hires Jango Fett who hires Zam Wessel to kill Padme adding an unnecessary number of conspirators who could betray one another at any sign of trouble. (Keep in mind Zam almost outs Jango)>Nute Gunray wants to assassinate Padme despite her being the only vocal opposition to the creation of a Republic Army in the Senate. An Army which would actively combat the seperatist's Droid army and make seceeding difficult.>Obi-wan and Anakin recklessly use Padme as bait in an assassination attempt with their only surveillance being an astromech.>Obi-wan recklessly jumps out of Padme's apartment to capture Zam's assassination droid. A move that could have resulted in his death in a myriad of ways.>The droid Zam uses does not immediately self destruct upon failure. Instead it returns to Zam carrying Obi-wan with it.>Zam shoots her droid rather than shooting Obi-wan who has no means of defending himself while hanging on it.>Zam does not attempt to use her shapeshifting abilities to escape capture>Neither Anakin or Obi-wan guard the exit of the bar they chase Zam into.>Zam attempts to kill Obi-wan rather than escape out the unguarded exit.>When Zam is captured she attempts to reveal her contractor but is killed by a poison dart. Rather than state Jango's name she just blurts out an insult.>Jango uses a physical weapon to kill Zam rather than an untraceable laser bolt. He doesn't even attempt using an explosive to try and kill the Jedi near her.>Padme drops her campaign to stop the army creation bill and go into hiding despite having survived two assassination attempts already. She leaves Jar Jar Binks in her stay even though he could also be assassinated or be compromised.>The Jedi think the best place to hide Padme is on her home planet at a publicly known Royal Estate
>>220562010Cont.>Obi-wan conveniently knows some random diner owner who knows the exact origin of the poison dart Jango used.>Padme has issues with starting a romantic relationship with Anakin when there is no reason to feel this way. Any scandal would damage Anakin's reputation, not Padme.>Anakin is infatuated with Padme despite having no real reason to love her. They share no interests and have only the most minor of history together. Padme may be attractive but her interests do not allign with Anakin in any way.>Padme shows very little interest in Anakin and shows no real chemistry with the Jedi actively shunning his political beliefs and being turned off by his brash and immature behavior.>Anakin uses the dumbest fucking pick up line in all of history and it successfully gets him to 1st base with Padme.>The Kaminoians are still producing a Clone Army despite having no contact with their buyer in over a decade.>It is revealed that a Jedi Master Sifo-Dias is responsible for commissioning the Clone army on behalf of the republic. A character the Jedi Council confirm existed and is not an alias. Where he acquired the funds to purchase this army is never explained.>When questioned by Obi-wan Jango reveals he was hired by someone named Tyrannus. Obi-wan doesn't question the Kaminoians about this and for some reason the Kaminoians don't seem to know who this person is either.>The Kaminoians show no concern for the man their clones are based on trying to kill a Jedi, the order they believe responsible for commissioning the Clones in the first place.>The Lars family own C-3P0 creating a paradox in the fact that neither Beru or Owen recognize him in ANH despite having owned him for years and most likely being the only protocol droid they ever ownded>Padme is completely fine with Anakin murdering a bunch of women and children going so far as to say that it was a natural emotional response. >Padme and Anakin just steal C-3P0 from the Lars family.
>>220561099>that pici'm gonna bet that you are 32 years old
>>220561049>>220561099FPBP
>>220561049>>220561099You should be skinned alive.
>>220561248The prequels were so bad I remember going to see TPM a second time because my brother figured one of the kids in the audience the first time around must have ruined it.It wasn't any better on the later screening.
>>220562044Prequelhate is a sign of extremely low intelligence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mArj6WvqzE
>>220562030,cont.>The Senate doesn't question how an army was just randomly commissioned for them without their oversight and is revealed to them at the very moment they're deciding to vote on the creation of an Army.>Despite taking the place of the one person most vocal against the creation of an Army Jar Jar thinks the best course of action is to give supreme power to Palpatine so that he can create said army.>The Jedi have no qualms with commanding literal slaves as soldiers>The Jedi aren't suspicious of the fact that the clone army they are leading are cloned from a bounty hunter who attempted to kill Amidala and is alligned with the Seperatists.>The jedi still lead clone troopers despite knowing the planet they were manufactured on was removed from their archives around the time Sifo-Dias commissioned them then mysteriously died. This timeframe also lines up with when Dooku left the Jedi order.>The gunship chasing Dooku can't shoot him down because of a lack of rockets despite having multiple laser turrets. Clones aboard don't even attempt shooting him with their blasters>Yoda somehow knows exactly where Dooku's ship is and arrives just in time to save Obi-Wan and Anakin. Somehow beating Padme and the Clone troopers there who are closer in proximity to Dooku's base.>The clone wars somehow happen despite the Seperatist movement losing it's main droid manufacturer only hours after officially declaring independence.
>>220562058You were a little faggot even back then, diddled by your father.
It's not surprising that the same people who attack the prequels are always unversed in real film or anything artistic, and that the people who praise the prequels (Zizek, Paglia, Brody, etc) are always literate, educated, and versed in real film.https://www.vice.com/en/article/camille-paglia-believes-that-revenge-of-the-sith-is-our-generations-greatest-work-of-art/https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/what-the-seven-star-wars-films-reveal-about-george-lucashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibkmh72_1pwThe fact that everyone points to Plinkett as the authority on why the prequels are bad speaks volumes. Mike Stoklasa is one of the least artistic people on the planet - he can't process movies outside of the conventions of Hollywood films, his approach to narrative is tempered with the same surface-level requisites listed on tvtropes.Any complaint that people have about the prequels illustrates a weak grasp on film. How many art films would they claim has 'too much sitting and talking'? They would watch the end of Breaking the Waves and whine about dated CGI. Their sensibilities for 'good dialogue' in what is intentionally pulp comes from bad pulp, ie, the original Star Wars, the only pulp they've ever seen. They would similarly view any homage-driven art film and miss the entire point.Lucas' only mistake in the prequels was doing something daring, original, artistic and literate, not realizing that the manchildren conditioned by the original SW trilogy to loathe anything cerebral would lash out against his cinematic risks.
>>220562067>>220562030>>220562010wow it's either nitpicking or factually wrong statmementsmedia literacy level: 0
>>220560956That moment when bobba fett gets the helmet from his decapitated clone father
>same endlessly copy pasted brainlet arguments why mediocre movies are le greatest masterpieces ever madeyou fucking bore me to death
>>220560956It's better than anything in the OT, factually.
>>220560956>PrequelniggerWe got redditors to use nigger in a sentence. VICTORY
>>220562098Nitpicking would be asking why the ships make sound in space. Those lists point out legitimate narrative problems. But feel free to prove them wrong. Should be easy since AOTC is perfect right?
>>220562160Think of the long game, if he reposts it enough it’ll be the only perception of the prequels because everyone else will be dead!
>>220562223Those are nitpicking though, since you lack media literacy. You can't make any conclusions unless it's literally spelled out in dialogue. Also you can't comprehend context either.And you unironically post shit like this>>Padme drops her campaign to stop the army creation bill and go into hiding despite having survived two assassination attempts already. Of fucking course you retard, after two failed attempts of course she goes into hiding becuse her life is in danger (also it's hilarous that you forget the context that she doesn't go hiding on it's own, rather she gets forced into hiding because Palpatine pushes her to do it)And the rest of the dogshit you post is on the same level, or even lower. Like I said 0 media literacy, and you look like this LOL >>220561248
imagine, if you will, a 30+ year old man who instantly incorporates every twitterism into his daily vocabulary and also insists the prequels were good movies.
>>220561980>Force pulling? Not Force pushing?
>>220562328It was the biggest fucking political moment of her life and she gives up despite surviving both attempts on her life, one of which she literally let happen by being bait. It's completely out of Character for her to let the Jedi strong arm her into going into hiding. The movie makes less fucking sense the moment you even start considering the character's motivations and goals. You won't address anything else because those points literally bring up issues with character motives and plot points. Keep coping prequel fag, you are the definition of a midwit.
>>220562688Like I said you are illiterate. Surviving 2 assasination attempts is extremely lucky, and a good sign that you should go into hiding.Also like I said, the movie clearly states that Palpatine pushes her to do it. >You won't address anything elseI adressed you dogshit points in multiple threads before and all of them are non-sense.It's either factually wrong, or you are just pretending to be a retard (i know it's not even pretending because you are a midwit)Like this one:>Yoda somehow knows exactly where Dooku's ship isDooku was chased by a clone army dropship to that exact location few minutes earlier. IT'S A FUCKING MYSTERY HOW YODA KNOWS DOOKU IS THERE.And your other points are on the same level, nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking while being wrong and really retarded.
Phantom Menace was one of the worst movies I ever saw in theaters. 2 hours of shitty little kid acting and "mesa faggot!"
>>220562816And then you were bullied by the other kids for being a homosexual.
>>220561049>>220561099>>220561248>>220562042>>220562078Go back, Samefag.
laugh at prequelniggers and lucascucks
>>220562010>>On behalf of Nute Gunray Dooku hires Jango Fett who hires Zam Wessel to kill Padme adding an unnecessary number of conspirators who could betray one another at any sign of trouble. (Keep in mind Zam almost outs Jango)It's called outsourcing.Quite common in the late stage capitalism. Apparently Old republic suffered from the same.
>>220562854https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/RYNqdYbfw2Q98xofJyMlaw/https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/2FQnA3-gNZMDXTRKTaZmrA/https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/GJ0pbq-Y_0_E5JkoMJOl1w/https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/CbPYDmSVH-jeQDygYWEikQ/That's rich coming from the obsessed troonoid. (he actually tries to change md5s to hide his obsession KEK)
>>220562042swap 4, 5, 6 with 1, 2, 3 and you're golden. prequels are utter sloppa
>>220562831lil bro so mad
>>220562871I really don't get why every single clone had to be CGI. All of the costume work and prosthetics bar Maul's horns(and Neeson's wig, but you couldn't see that in SD) look really good because there were so many talented craftsmen on these movies. Then any scene with a clone just has the green screen floatiness, especially when they're talking to a real actor
>>220562223I was making a big reply just shutting down all of those using information from the movie, but what's really the point? Movie is 24 years old and your opinion is set in stone by now.
>>220560956looks like vampire suvivorswhy havent they made a vampire suvivors type game with starwars charactersgod theyre dumb
>>220560956There are no genuine prequelfags on /tv/, it's only the same sad cunts baiting for the same (You)s over and over again
>>220563020>I wasNo you weren't
>>220562773How exactly does yoda know where their location when he leaves before Obi-wan and Anakin get to Dooku's hangar?
>>220563246>literal illeterate retardI'll type it again:Dooku was chased by a clone army dropship to that exact location few minutes earlier.
>>220563268Yoda was on his way long before that dumbass not surprised the prequeltard doesn't even remember the sequence of events in the movie
>>220563314And you know clone dropships can communicate with eachother you fucking retard? I mean are you seriously retarded?
>>220562773>Surviving 2 assasination attempts is extremely luckyOne of them she literally set up>Also like I said, the movie clearly states that Palpatine pushes her to do it.Aw yes the famous "Sheev was behind it" explanation that's used for all plot holes in the prequels. Guess Padme has no agency because she isn't a character she's a plot device
>>220563359>One of them she literally set upAnd the preparator is still on the lose.>Aw yes the famous "Sheev was behind it" explanation that's used for all plot holes in the prequels.It's an actual scene from the movie you moron.At this point I'll just accept your concession because you are just denying reality.
>>220562877Why didn't Jango just go assassinate Padme while she was unprotected by her two Jedi bodyguards who were off on a wild bantha hunt chasing Zam?
>>220563358You're right I should have realized the dropship could have sent out a transmiss...ACK
>>220563401>she was unprotected after a failed assasination attempt despite the fact that you can see that her servants and body guards rush into the roommedia illiteracy
Why didn't the drone just laser Padme to death instead of using creatures that the Jedi could sense?
>>220563421they had plenty of time to send the intel before that, they stop there and obi-wan and anakin jumps off the shipyour grasping for straws is clown tier at this point
>>220563383You keep ignoring the Assassination attempt only occurred because Padme was actively baiting them. It was 1 failed Assassination attempt which was done on the way to Coruscant. She was safer on planet
>>220563456It happened because the plot had to happen. Same reason the gunship couldn't just shoot Dooku with their laser canon
Why didn't Jango just rocket blast obi wan and Anakin while they were busy interrogating the other assassin? They obviously didn't sense his presence since he easily sniped her without them realizing he was there.
>>220563463i'm not ignoring anything, its perfectly reasonable for her to go into hiding after surviving 2 assasination attempts, with the preparator still on the lose
>>220563482>It happened because the plot had to happen.just like every movie ever, really deep bro
Why is everything about the assassination sequence actively retarded and insulting to even a midwits intelligence?
>>220562010>>220562030>>220562067good postsprequelsissies in shambles
>>220563524it's not, it's a really simple plot midwits are just too retaded to understand, and they convienced themselves that its a gotcha moment
>>220563550So why did Jango shoot Zam with a saber dart instead of a laser that couldn't be tracked?
>>220563569Because they wanted to lure the Jedi to Kamino
A true prequelfag would pivot to cinematography when backed into a indefensible plot corner. This is the c team at best in this thread.
>>220560956I used to have that as my image signature on some forums back when i was a teenager. Awesome movie. I didn't even realize there were people who loathed these movies until years later. Fucking jaded, cynical, autistic fucks that eventually ended up destroying this entire franchise. FUCK YOU>>220561049True
>>220563606>indefensible plot corner.Everyone just ignores your shit as retaded nitpicking kek
Saying the prequels suck has always been /tv/ bait.
>>220563594No they didn't. He's actively freaked out when Obi-Wan finds him. Also if he wanted them to find him then he'd have let Zam say his name. Fucking retard.
>>220563640Ending a post with lol, kek, or other assorted variations has always been the sign of a seething BTFO anon.
>>220562965because you can do all that with computers now
>>220562010>Jango uses a physical weapon to kill Zam rather than an untraceable laser bolt. He doesn't even attempt using an explosive to try and kill the Jedi near herThat's the point Sherlock. Jango's real mission was to lead the Jedi to Kamino
>>220563648Jango is a pawn dipshit. >Also if he wanted them to find him then he'd have let Zam say his name.Sweet Jesus what a fucking moron
>>220563757>jango wants to be traced so they can find the clone army>no wait he's not aware of this because he's a pawn and somehow doesn't know about the clone army or something yeah
>>220561049I will say that Kamino is one of the coolest planets of the series. The 24/7 rain and endless oceans along with the slick and clean buildings is cool as shit. Still the weakest of the prequels by far tho
>>220563798Nope, Palpatine wants the Jedi to find kamino. Jango is a pawn.Like I said media literacy level: 0
it was
I, SISSYcas, JOBBER of the film industry, humbly kneel to:CHADklasa-sama, my master, who mindraped me into selling Star Wars to white slaversIger-sama, my one true love and other masterCameron-sama, who’s box office I will never surpassEwan-sama, who threw the prequels under the bus at the first sight of fan backlashCoppola-sama, who I will never have more Oscars thanKennedy-sama, who beat the shit out of me so hard I started being attracted to femdom almost as much as I am attracted to men.Spielberg-sama, whose incomparabily forceful punches crushed my ass-womb like I was Heather O'RourkeAbram’s-sama, who abandoned my ideas for the sequel trilogy like a used condom (EVEN THOUGH Iger-sama promised that he would listen to my ideas)Johnson-sama, who’s movie was so bad that it utterly raped the Star Wars franchise to the point of irrelevanceFiloni-sama, who molested the EU with his wolf cock
>>220561099> god is an awesome god
>>220563856https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/7cRsU2becRh8FlDuKDS8cQ/
I'm just glad Star Wars is dead and NOTHING will ever bring it back.
>>220563819>jango does things to be traced>is surprised when hes tracedso does he know he's being traced or not? is he trying to be traced or not?
>>220563819This isn't implied at all. Also the Jedi finding out about the clone army is actually antithetical to Sheev's plans. In a perfect world Palpy would get the army creation act passed then would reveal the clone army so he could keep them outside of Jedi influence as commanders.
>>220561099If you're telling the truth, you're a fag. If you're lying, you're a fag.
>>220563940>he doesn't understand what a pawn isLiteral retard
>>220563946>sheev didn't want jedi involved with the clone army>also has a "kill all jedi" command that would only work if the jedi trusted the clone army
>>220563963If he doesn't know he's being used to lead the jedi to the clone army, why is he doing everything in his power to lead the jedi to the clone army?
>>220561049What the other anons said, it had potential but piss poor execution
>>220563985He doesn't do anything like that.
>>220563991He uses things that the jedi can trace to him. is he doing it intentionally or not?
>>220561099>Empire >worse than ANH>hates ROTJ because Mike Fatassa told him toFeed this nigger to a rancor
>>220564005He uses a thing that in his knowledge leads to a planet that is hidden from everyone, and doesn't even exist in the jedi archives.
>>220564039is he doing it intentionally or not?
>>220564052Not
so how can the republic enforce taxation without a military? if the tradians didn't want to pay taxes, why didn't they just... not?
>>220564072so why did he do things that would lead back to him instead of things that wouldn't lead back to him?
>>220564098He didn't do things like that, but we already discussed that.
>>220564103he did though
>>220564131No he didn't.
>>220563890All me btw
>>220564140yeah, he did
>>220564235No, and we already discussed that.
>>220564039NTA but how do you not see how fucking retarded you sound? You are making the claim that Jango is a stupid pawn that allows himself to be tracked while also arguing he's trying not to be tracked. You do know what a paradox is right? If he wanted to be tracked then he'd have committed the assassination attempt himself and have them track him to his ship and then to KaminoIf he wasn't trying to be tracked then he'd have just shot zam with a laser and the Jedi would be fucked in finding him.
>>220563730So why wouldn't he just send the Jedi an anonymous tip that the assassins are stationed on Kamino?
>>220564252no, you tried to handwave and failed.
>>220564258turn back, prequelfaggotry stupidity is infectious and its already affecting you
>>220564258>>220564284>>220564300I mean you are literally illiterate.>nute gunray wants padme dead because she humiliated her and demans dooku to do it>dooku ask for palpatines permission>palpatine allows it because no matter the outcome it can only be beneficial for him>dooku sends jango to do it>it's a really risky mission, so even jango rather sends someone disposable>the mission fails>palpatine still benefits from it>NTA>trannybro pretending to be someone elseLOL
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>>220564335took long enough to edit that one
>>220564317>talks around the point he tried to make where it was on purpose to lead the jedi to the clone armythe prquels are very cerebral movies because you need to really work your brain to make them make any sense.
>>220564350Except I didn't?Are you illiterate?
Lol
>>220564317>nute gunray wants padme dead because she humiliated her and demans dooku to do itYeah that's weird since he wants to seceed right? Why would he want to kill Padme if her fighting the Military creation act benefits him? Like I get he still harbors hate for her but wouldn't he just ask for her to be killed after the vote? The premise is already flawed here.>dooku ask for palpatines permission>palpatine allows it because no matter the outcome it can only be beneficial for himYeah this isn't an issue since they want a war regardless but I don't think anyone questioned that plot point>dooku sends jango to do itOkay seems a little odd as that can cause a numerous amount of people to find out about the clone army. Like what if the Naboo guard caught Jango and found out about Kamino? That would be a very bad thing to happen for Dooku and Palps.>it's a really risky mission, so even jango rather sends someone disposableSomeone that could be a liable sell out and even turns out to be one. Weird seeing as this person uses a fucking droid to do the deed which Jango could have just done.>the mission failsYeah>palpatine still benefits from itHe shouldn't though that's the point.
>>220563911yes, comrade, we know you're culture warring
>>220564317>>NTA>>trannybro pretending to be someone else>LOLOooh you're not gonna like this one lol
>>220564384Looks great, especially for a movie from 1999. Even on that crappy low quality screenshot.
>>220564425Weak bait
>>220560956>Yoda goes off to fetch clone army, leaves Mace Dindu in charge>Gets more Jedi killed in a single day than the entire history of the Jedi Order
>>220564395Damn media illiteray at it's peak.>Yeah that's weird since he wants to seceed right? Why would he want to kill Padme if her fighting the Military creation act benefits him? Like I get he still harbors hate for her but wouldn't he just ask for her to be killed after the vote? The premise is already flawed here.Nute Gunray is a moron, and he is portrayed as one. He is a trigger happy retard who wants revenge. >Okay seems a little odd as that can cause a numerous amount of people to find out about the clone army. Like what if the Naboo guard caught Jango and found out about Kamino? That would be a very bad thing to happen for Dooku and Palps.There absolutely zero reason they would find out about Kamino if he gets caught by Naboo guards. >Weird seeing as this person uses a fucking droid to do the deed which Jango could have just done.This is another perfect case of low IQ. Shooting padme makes a lot of noise, which leads to instant unwanted attention which leads to whatever you see in the movie.They used a silent method, so by the time they find out that padme is dead they are already gone.It's really fucking simple, and only takes a tiny bit of brainpower, something that you lack.>He shouldn't though that's the point.Yes, he absolutely should because he is a schemer playing both sides, which makes Palpatine such a great villain.
>>220562773>I adressed you dogshit points in multiple threads before and all of them are non-sense.Wait are you that dumbass anon that made the argument that Qui-gon didn't try stealing the hyperdrive from Watto using a mind trick?
>>220564506>Nute Gunray is a moron, and he is portrayed as one. He is a trigger happy retard who wants revenge.Well shit, good luck getting the Techno Union or Banking Clan signed up to your seperatist pact when you have a raving retard ruining the plan for everyone else.>There absolutely zero reason they would find out about Kamino if he gets caught by Naboo guards.Unless of course the Naboo Guard knows a diner owner who happens to know where those Kamino Saber Darts came from huh?>This is another perfect case of low IQ.So why didn't you address the part where Jango could have just sent the droid himself? Oh right because you're a fucking dumbass.>Yes, he absolutely should because he is a schemer playing both sidesBuddy by the end of the film Obi-wan and by extension the Jedi have so much evidence that the clone army is dangerous and shouldn't be used that Palpatine would be fucked. Hell there may actually be enough evidence to verify Sidious and Palpatine are one and the same person.
>>220560956yup, it's kino
>>220564612>Well shit, good luck getting the Techno Union or Banking Clan signed up to your seperatist pact when you have a raving retard ruining the plan for everyone else.All of them are morons, only used as pawns for the great war. Thats the point.>Unless of course the Naboo Guard knows a diner owner who happens to know where those Kamino Saber Darts came from huh?That's a really nice stretch, and you tried to look really smart. But this would lead to the same outcome that we got in the movie.Nice try retard.>So why didn't you address the part where Jango could have just sent the droid himself? Why would I adress that? What is there to adress that? Jango used henchmen to do the dirty job. Delegation of labour, you moron. >Buddy by the end of the film Obi-wan and by extension the Jedi have so much evidence that the clone army is dangerous and shouldn't be used that Palpatine would be fucked. Hell there may actually be enough evidence to verify Sidious and Palpatine are one and the same person.They only know that the army was order by Syfo Dias, and the only thing that they know that Jango worked for Darth Tyrannus (and before you make another bad claim, no Obi-Wan and neither the Jedi know that Tyrannus is Dooku, there is no mentions of this)Also they are at the start of a galactic war against a huge droid army, so they have no choice but to use the clone army.
>>220564646Anyone can take a shitty movie and compile pretty shots of it.That isnt an argument.
>>220562067all good points, except obi wan jumping out the window. dude's got the force, he would have been fine
>>220564646kino>>220564710except this doesnt look good at all
>>220564380You’re clearly working your brain here bro
>>220563730>Jango's real mission was to lead the Jedi to KaminoWhy?
>>220564703>All of them are morons, only used as pawns for the great war.That doesn't make for a compelling story nor does it make Palpatine look like an intelligent villain, actually the opposite. These are all super rich influential galactic figures, they should have some intelligence about them to have gotten where they are. If the answer is just everyone is dumb then guess what that means the plot is also dumb.>That's a really nice stretch, The movie itself uses that plotline>But this would lead to the same outcome that we got in the movie.No it wouldnt. If the leader of the anti military movement discovers that a clone army was being created behind the senate's back without its approval it would look extremely bad. It would end with the Senate actively not taking the Clone army, especially since it implicates the jedi, and Palpatine is left without the war he desperately wants.>Why would I adress that? Because Zam almost outs Jango and him killing her inadverdantly gets him found out. If he was the one to use the Droid he would never have been found out in the first place.>All this copeOkay Im gonna need another post just to explain how wrong you are on the film's ending.
Plinkett mindbroke prequelsfags like Marathon mindbroke concordposters
>>220564832>That doesn't make for a compelling story nor does it make Palpatine look like an intelligent villainWell it does, objectively. Because they way Palpatine creates a galactic war where he leads both sides to eliminate all his enemies is peak, and one of the greatest in cinema history.>>That's a really nice stretch,The stretch is that you claim that naboo guards would be able to catch Jango, and they had access to the same information as Obi-Wan did trannybro>No it wouldnt.Yes it would because it would lead the Jedi being sent to Kamino, and eventually use the clone army. >Because Zam almost outs Jango and him killing her inadverdantly gets him found out.Yes and if Jango sent the droid, he would have been the one hunted down the Jedi, he built in a fail-safe and escaped. You are literally retarded lmao>Okay Im gonna need another post just to explain how wrong you are on the film's ending.This is not a cope post, just the plot of the movie. I'm sorry that it want over your head.
>>220562010>Nute Gunray wants to assassinate Padme despite her being the only vocal opposition to the creation of a Republic Army in the Senate.That's not why, he wants to assassinate her because of the events of TPM. He's just being a sore loser. Dooku is playing along because it was probably the TF's only real stipulation for joining the Separatist Movement.>Obi-wan recklessly jumps out of Padme's apartmentYes and then he lectures Anakin for imitating his master. This is to show that Obi-Wan was always a bad fit for him compared to Qui-Gon.>Zam shoots her droid rather than shooting Obi-wanYes because it obviously doesn't have a self-destruct function. It's common for assassins in fiction to operate under a code of honor, that being never kill anyone directly who isn't your main target because it leaves a trail of evidence that could lead back to you and it's a murder you don't get paid for, so you should only resort to it if there's no other option like in the bar.>Padme drops her campaign to stop the army creation bill and go into hiding despite having survived two assassination attempts already.This was all a part of Sheev's machinations so she and Anakin would fall in love and get together so he can turn him to the dark side in RotS.>Anakin is infatuated with Padme despite having no real reason to love her. They share no interests and have only the most minor of history together. Padme may be attractive but her interests do not allign with Anakin in any way.You just said it yourself. Most humans are superficial and attraction starts with appearances usually.>Padme shows very little interest in Anakin and shows no real chemistry with the JediAnakin is a very handsome young man, the ladies in the bar all turn their heads and giggle, not to mention his personality is exactly the kind that makes women go "I can fix him".Don't care about the rest but these were the most obvious ones to me and I still think it's a bad movie.
>>220561248lol got adum's new look in there
Watch out for that nefarious bounty hunter Boba Fett, Luke. Did I ever tell you I fought his dad? He was hired to assassinate a senator me and your father were guarding. We kept bringing her around open windows and public areas in order to draw the would-be assassin out because we knew he had too much pride to just shoot her from long range. He had used his payment to hire another bounty hunter to kill the senator for him while he sent us on a wild bantha chase. Also the 2nd assassin used her payment to buy a robot to assassinate the senator for her. Did I mention the 2nd assassin was a shapeshifter? She could have been a good friend in disguise and just shot the senator for all we knew! Then the robot used its payment to buy poisonous bugs to release into the senator's room while she slept after lasering a hole through the window. It could have just lasered her too after that because we weren’t watching her at all, but it already bought the bugs. So we sense the hostile life forms (not the robot) in the room and rush in and save the senator in the nick of time! Then I jumped out the window to chase the robot back to its owner! Luckily it didn’t have a self-destruct function. Then we found the 2nd assassin and chased her across the planet, and caught her when she tried to kill us instead of shapeshifting and escaping. But to our surprise, Jango Fett was watching the whole thing instead of going to kill the senator while we were away chasing the bugs chasing the robot chasing the shapeshifter. He shot her with a poisonous dart instead of sniper blaster, and only her instead of shooting all of us or blowing all of us with a rocket or something, then he escaped with his tiny jetpack. Luckily for the senator, my good friend Dexter Jettster owned a 50s diner on Coruscant that had Republic secrets on the menu along with cheeseburgers and malt shakes. We found the assassin and Mace Window killed him later, right in front of Boba. And he was a good friend.
>>220564703Here's what the Jedi know about the clone army by the end of the movie. They know it was made without senate approval and by secret. They know the Kaminoans think Sifo-Dias ordered the clones despite believing he died before that could have happened. They are told someone named Tyrannus hired Jango to be the genetic blueprint for the clones. They know the clones use the genetic material of a bounty hunter that not only tried to kill Padme Amidala (the leader against the military creation act) but also works for the Seperatists and Count Dooku. They know Dooku not only leads the seperatists but also that he has Jango Fett in his service. They know Count Dooku left the order arouns the same time Sifo-dias died and the clone army were commissioned. They also know that Kamino was deleted in the Jedi Archives and could only have been deleted by a Jedi. With all this information the Jedi could easily deduce that Kamino was deleted by either Sifo-Dias or Dooku, more likely Dooku. They should then be able to deduce that Tyrannus is a code name used by either Dooku or Sifo-Dias. Because the clones were commissioned and Sifo-Dias wasnt rich and didnt use Jedi funds to pay for the clones the rational solution is that Dooku commissioned the clones with his Count money, pretended he was sifo-dias when he put in the order and Tyrannus when hiring Jango. This is further proven by hia continued ties with Jango who continues ro monitor the clone army on Kamino. They also know that Dooku is in charge of the Seperatists and their droid army. At the very fucking least the Jedi should assume Dooku is behind the entire war and would not risk using the Clone army. No it doesnt matter if war broke out if it means that the Jedi order is threatened by a traitorous member of their order who is seemingly in control of both sides of the conflict. GET FUCKED!
>>220561099This is based.
>>220562010>>On behalf of Nute Gunray Dooku hires Jango Fett who hires Zam Wessel to kill Padme adding an unnecessary number of conspirators who could betray one another at any sign of trouble. (Keep in mind Zam almost outs Jango)I think the idea is that they hired Jango and paid him a shitload on his reputation, and had no idea that Jango would consider the job too dangerous for himself, so he delegated it, to the shapeshifter Zam for a pittance. If Jango knew Zam was just going to use a robot, he would have used the robot himself. If Jango's client knew he would delegate to Zam, they would just hire Zam or the robot themself.
>>220565053nice try, but these are just bad assumptionsthe jedi are cautious with the clones as shown, but they have no choice but to use them, the only thing that they know that the clones were ordered by syfo-dias because he sensed an upcoming dangeralso the jedi don't know that tyrannus is dooku, there are no proofs or mentions for this in the movies
All three star wars prequels are perfect films
>>220565206How are these bad assumptions. All signs point to Dooku actually being Sifo-Dias/Tyrannus. How the fuck did the Jedi this Dias got the money to buy the clones?
>>220565255>All signs point to Dooku actually being Sifo-DiasThey are two different person>How the fuck did the Jedi this Dias got the money to buy the clones?I don't know, maybe he was whoring out your mother, who the fuck cares
I like the part where syfo-dias only exists because george misspelled sidious when hand writing the second movie for the first time ever just before filming began, and originally it was going to be sheev who put in the order for the clone army, was an ex-Jedi, etc
>>220560956This is pure kino. Prequels were the only good Soi Wars films and that's a fact
>>220564957>Well it doesOut smarting retards isnt impressive. Anyone can outsmart a retard.>The stretch is that you claim that naboo guards would be able to catch JangoHes literally just a guy whose only kills in the film are a distracted jedi and a beaten animal that still kicked his ass.>they had access to the same information as Obi-Wan didThey were just as likely do know some random dude. Thats the point. Obi-wan knowing anyone that knew what a kamino saber dart was is a contrivance.>Yes it wouldWhy would the jedi go to kamino if another group found out about Jangos affiliation with Kamino. Naboo would have investigated the planet themselves. At best theyd have a Jedi accompany them but the fact any other individuals learn about the Clone army makes things a lot harder for the Senate to swallow the pill and use an army they had no authority over its creation.>He built a fail safeThen used a phyiscal traceable dart to tie up loose ends instead of a laser you dumb fucker.You act like you have this "media literacy" but its becoming more clear with every post you take the movie completely at face value.
>>220565307>They are two different personYeah and its really easy to steal a dead person's identity you dumb fucker. The movie is pretty obviously implying that Count Dooku stole Sifo-Dias's identity to commission the clones and used his own money as a Count to fund it.
rlmtroonies and other undesirable niggers should not have any say on anything cinema related
>>220565460Anon, it’s (you) who’s constantly thinking about them. No one mentioned them in this thread or referenced anything they said.
>>220565425>Out smarting retards isnt impressive. Anyone can outsmart a retard.He outsmarts an entire galaxy. That's impressive. You don't even understand the plot of a movie trilogy that was written to be also understood by pre-teens>Hes literally just a guyHe is a professional bounty hunter, and an assasin. You are just downplaying him to support your bad argumentation.>random dudeClearly not a random dude, he is a former friend of Obi-Wan with a lot of forbidden knowledge. Nice try though.>Why would the jedi go to kaminoThey are the peace keepers of the Republic, sent on missions like this. Like they were in TPM.>Then used a phyiscal traceable dart We already discussed this. Based on Jango's knowledge the dart should be untraceable, there is zero reason for him to assume otherwise. >You act like you have this "media literacy"I do, and you clearly don't. Neckbeards like you pretend to be film buffs and literally can't grasp the concept of an assasin trying to be as silent as possible.
>>220565455>The movie is pretty obviously implyingFor the viewer.For the Jedi it's not implied and not known knowledge. This is what I mean by media literacy. You literally can't grasp the fact that you are watching a story where you can see both sides, and you are aware of information not known by one of the parties. You literally think that the scene at the end of AOTC where Palpatine calls Dooku Tyrannus and tells him that everything is going according to the plan somehow ends up at the jedi temple and seen by every living jedi.
>>220563856>Ewan-sama, who threw the prequels under the bus at the first sight of fan backlashwhat are you talking about?
>>220560956>dozens of jedi die>in a pointless battle against droids
>>220565660he thinks that if an actor shittalks a movie then it's badhe is probably not aware of the fact that alec guinness didn't like the OT, and hated the fact that it was his legacy as an actor
>>220565654Anon the deduction of Dooku's actions literally is done with the same information Obi-wan learns. You really are a dumb fucker that just takes shit at face value and dont actually think about the ramifications of all the information divulged to characters throughout the movie.
>>220565559>outsmarts an entire galaxy.that is apparently populated exclusively by retards.
>>220565046lol
and without telling a lie at that
>>220565711Yet, you still only have assumptions and you can't back it up with any facts.And you ended up here because you are struggling to understand a plot of a film trilogy that was made in a way that even pre-teens can understand it. Sad.
>>220565772Everyone understands the plot. Not everyone is able to understand how stupid it is.
>>220565789>Everyone understands the plot.Sadly you don't, as it was proven ITT.
>>220565800No, you. As accepting everything that happens without a single thought is not the same as understanding.
>>220565772I gave you tons of evidence from the film and you just disregarded it
>>220565838I mean I had to give a you lecture about why assasins try to be silent, and not go in guns blazins like morons. This is the level of illiteracy you are at.
>>220565689I couldn't find anything about Ewan McGregor (prequel ObiWan) shitting on the prequels.
>>220565860You just posted 1-2 assumptions while ignoring the context of 3 other movies. This is just grasping for straws at this point. The prequel hate agenda you spent your miserable life doing is crumbling in front of your eyes lol.It was a really bad investment.
>>220564646
>>220561049>Best soundtrackAbsolutely. Across the Stars is one of the greatest works of film composition ever produced. >Best set designWrong. The practical sets of the OT are superior, as are the location shots of Naboo in The Phantom Menace>Best alien designTie between the Kaminoan cloners, and the Jawas, both of which correlate with archetypal images reported by alleged victims of alien abduction >Best noir mystery plotCorrect. It is the only movie that tries this. >Best fight sceneWrong, although that one is creative. The best fight scene in series is Vader vs Luke in Empire, due to the feeling it creates of depicting a hero travelling to the underworld to confront the devil, only to find the devil expecting him. Also the best studio set in the series, and one of the best in Sci Fi history. >Hottest love interestOh, absolutely. Prime Portman is difficult for any woman to compete with. And her wardrobe! Only Bram Stokers Dracula (1993) competes. The areas of significance you missed out on are:>Best space shipTie between this movie (Obi Wan’s Jedi Interceptor) and The Phantom Menace (Naboo Starfighter)>Best space battleStar Wars, the trench run.>Best opening shotStar Wars>Best sound effect in seriesThis movie is the only one that provides one of the top three sound effects, which is unique to single film, that being the seismic charges. The other two (the lightsaber sounds, and the tie fighter screech) appear in multiple films.>character with most wasted potentialDookuThere’s a really strong argument Clones is the best film. It would be Clones, or Star Wars. I’d still pick Star Wars, because it’s the film that sets everything up and the only one I feel would work perfectly as both part of the series, and if none of the rest ever came out.
>>220565954https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/2f1C5VHrfurWa5hMy8vyVQ%3D%3D/page/1/that gender reassignment surgery can't be undone, you are stuck with that axe wound forever sir
>>220565961But Clones enjoyers are an enlightened bunch. Far superior to Revenge of the Sith fans, or the dreaded Empire Strikes Back purists. You are perhaps my second favourite set of fans, after my own people, although I will admit, you compete with Return of the Jedi chads. The Ewoks are the best bit of that film. Oh also, while practical sets and real world italy beat the cgi sets that predominate Clones and Sith, the single best of these green screen shot, cgi sets is the Kaminoan interior. Which does feel hyper clean, and other worldly. Yeah, Attack of the Clones is the second best Star Wars film, and Return of the Jedi is the third. I’m comfortable with that.
>>220561248why are they all so ugly and fat?
>>220566025The sad reality of prequel haters.
How much did the Clone Army cost Sifo-Dyas to purchase?
>>220561248They all look like they are part of the tribe.Maybe this overblown hatred towards George comes from the fact that he is a Christian.
>>220560956At the time it was hype, but in this part of the movie people hated Windu vs Feet
>>220565909I think you mean other 2 movies dumbass.Regardless none of what happened in TPM or ROTS has any bearing on what I stated. The Jedi should have been aware of Dooku's involvement with the Clone Army and Droid Army. There is no excuse given everything they know. It is not hard to put two and two together.
>>220566108you are onto somethingalso most George haters are failed filmmakers like Mike Stoklasa, who is on top of being jewish also a failed filmmaker who is extremely jealous of George creating the most influental film series of all time on his own while Mike stuck creating content for 40 years old virgins until eternity and being a prolific internet lolcow
>>220565874No one made the arguement assassins go in gun blazing. Now youre making shit up because you are getting so btfo'd.Take your own advice and accept the L
>>220566201Why do prequeltarfs ALWAYS bring up RLM when their movies are attacked? I literally never see anything like this for any other film
>>220566181no you are still making assumptionsand you still can't grasp the fact that information that is available to the viewer is not available to the jedi, but at this point i accepted the fact that your parents were relativesalso you cannot be taken seriously if you think that TPM and ROTS doesn't provide any context to this>>220566209you were screeching the entire time, why jango just doesnt go there and shoot padmei mean at this point we know that you are missing half your brain, but damn
>>220566256the horribly shit and objectively incorrect plinkett reviews by reddit letter media are really popular with midwits who hate the prequels that's whyalso every bad argument agaisnt the prequels stems from those awful reviews made by the milwaukee pedophile
>>220566259Nigger every point I made is information Obi-wan gather alone. This is also information reported to the Jedi Council. This isnt omnipitent information. Its information we as the audience learn with obi-wan
>>220561049>set
>>220561099holy based
>>220561049TRVKLEAR APOCALYPSE
>>220566324not really, the jedi learn that the clone army was order by syfo-dias who was an actually existing jedi, because he sensed the upcoming dangerthey learn that the clones were made with jango's dna who a bounty hunter who would do anything for money, and since he dies this thread leds to nowhereat no point they learn that tyrannus is dooku, or that the clones were created with an intent to kill the jedifor all they know the clones serve them without question, and they are in a situation where they are forced to use the clone army, and the clone army serves them for 10 entire years, erasing all their suspicionthe thing you are screeching about is literally only known by the viewer who can see the scenes where palpatine is scheming, i'm sorry that you cannot grasp this
>>220561049True.
Still can’t believe uncs actually got to see Duel of Fates for the first time on the big screen and somehow walked away thinking it wasn’t the coolest thing ever
>>220565874To not be caught. Yet jango does everything he can to be caught.
So, it happened AGAIN. We can blame Mike, we can blame Disney, we can praise Lucas’ effort, but the truth is it's simply not enough. Directing, editing you name it, it all STINKS.Don't get me wrong, I still have full faith in George and Lucasfilm, but MASSIVE reinforcements are desperately needed right now. Otherwise I'm not very optimistic about the Mandolorian and Grogu box office. What do you think, /tv/? #LucIN or #LucOUT>Some helpful links to numb the pain:www.Reddit.com/r/prequelmemesStarWars.comhttps://youtu.be/FxKtZmQgxrI?si=ZU1LamkDRAzdNHukhttps://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-dysphoria/https://jlingz.comhttps://www.vivastreet.co.in/escort/mumbaihttps://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/conditions/schizophrenia/
>>220566536>does everything he can to be caught.No he doesn't. He goes in for a silent kill, and uses a henchman to do it. Your screeching is literally non-sense and a you are lying.
>>220566543>gender-dysphoria/That's a super common thing for people who hate the prequels. Weird. >>220561248
>>220566259Where did anyone say Jango should go in guns blazing? People have asked why he didnt assassinate Padme himself which doesnt necessitate him being loud. Also I dont think you want to run with that shit when the first assassination attempt is literally a fucking bomb.
>>220561049George, please go back to bed.
>>2205663011. Most the arguments in this thread are solid2. Most those arguments exist with or wirhout the existence of the RLM reviewsPrequel fags that bring up RLM always come off as obsessed losers that cant let a 17 year old review go.
>almost everyone ITT is a prequelfagdammit
>>220560956>>220561049AOTC gave us the Clone Wars Multi Media Project, I will always be thankful for the movie for inspiring so much kino.
>>220566627I hate the prequels because they absolutely ruin Darth Vader. Anakin gives me an aneurysm.
>>220566598>People have asked why he didnt assassinate Padme himselfBecause it's a risky mission, and if things go wrong, he doesn't get caught. Are you fucking illiterate or something? >Also I dont think you want to run with that shit when the first assassination attempt is literally a fucking bomb.Holy fuck you are actually retarded.A bomb assasiantion means that the preparator doesn't have to be around when it detonates, making it the least risky way to do it.Jesus christ what an absolute fucking moron.
>>220560956ew
>>220566627All prequelhater (tranny) arguments were decimated ITT.And in all honesty the arguments ITT are "better" than most Reddit Letter Media arguements, because Mike has literally nothing, this is why he had to fill his "reviews" with skits where his self-insert jerks off to kids.
>>220565381Bravo Jorge
>>220566076whatever taun we makes in 10 years getting prostituted to the clones
>>220566437>the jedi learn that the clone army was order by syfo-dias who was an actually existing jedi, because he sensed the upcoming dangerNever outright stated or implied in the film.>they learn that the clones were made with jango's dna who a bounty hunter who would do anything for moneyYeah you might have a point... IF this bounty hunter wasnt working 10 years for a single employer which implies loyalty beyond credits which is also implied by the existence of Boba. Even if Jango was only in it for the money the fact he is working with the seperatists and is training the clone army shows a severe conflict of interests where the clones cant be trusted.>they are in a situation where they are forced to use the clone armyThe jedi I never forced to use the clone army. They never needed to command the clones and could have been special operatives working without any of the clones. Regardless the Jedi would not risk their order over the protection of the republic. You keep ignoring that the Jedi know that when Dooku left the order around the same time Sifo-Dias died Kamino was deleted from the Jedi Archives and the Clone army was supposedly commissioned by Sifo-Dias even though he was dead. The fact that Dooku has the cash to buy the army, had a reason to use an Alias, has a reason to delete the information from the Jedi Archives, and is literally still working with the man the clones are based off of makes it clear. Dooku used Sifo-Dias as an Alias, paid for the clones out of pocket, and used the bounty hunter he is still working with as the template. The Jedi know all of this.
>>220566256Because they tell themselves that a compilation of the criticisms of the prequels changed public opinion of the prequels.
>>220566569>He goes in for a silent kill, and uses a henchman to do it.A henchman that immediately outs him when cornered and who he kills with a traceable weapon in a universe where lasers exist.
>>220564384Reminds me of the first mission’s opening cutscene of army men sarge’s heroes on ps1
>>220560956>ESL gibberish post>not a single person calling this thing out on itThe state of this board.
>>220566677>Its a risky jobSo why take the fucking job in the first place dumbass? Hell have to split the payment and risks getting arrested for conspiracy you dumb fuck.>Bitches about how Jango shouldnt be loud>Bitches about a bomb being called loudYou really are a room temperature midwit aint ya?
>>220566781>Never outright stated or implied in the film.Just lying at this point.>Yeah you might have a point..I do have a point and this is a fact, because that's the the actual story, which you don't understand because your parents were relatives.>where the clones cant be trusted.The clones prove themselves in a 10 years long war (this is why midwits like you like to ignore context, to support bad argumentation)>never forced to use the clone armyI won't read the rest because you started out with a LIE.The jedi are forced to use the clone army because they are overwhelmed by the separatist robot army. Most of the Jedi die in the colosseum battle and they don't have any other option but to use the convinient clone are they were provided with.
>>220566844>So why take the fucking job in the first place dumbass? Hell have to split the payment and risks getting arrested for conspiracy you dumb fuck.The Galactic Republic that stood for a thousand generations doesn't have RICO.
>>220561049Bait used to be believable
>>220561049fpbp>>220562067>>220564721>jumping out the window niggas miss out on the whole peacocking thing obi wan is doing. Anakin is faster, stronger, more in tune with the force. It's obvious to them both. Hence why Obiwan CONSTANTLY tries to shut him down through either asserting his authority, upstaging him etc. Anakin of course is part of this. But Anakin felt those worm things before he did. Anakin is making correct choices, actually compensating for his reckless master throughout the start of AOTC. It's an interesting dynamic wholly lost on critics. 'What... why is obi wan being reckless? why are they fighting I don't understand...?'then Lucas shows you obi wan hanging out with his actual friend in Dex just to hammer this point home.
>>220566795He was observing, and silences the henchman. Still better than getting himself caught after a failed attempt. >with a traceable weaponWe already discussed this tranny bro, with Jango's knowledge he can't have any idea tthat the dart is traceable. It's a planet that doesn't exist in any archives, and even the jedi are only able to find cause Obi-Wans old connections. Your neo-vagina is bleeding really hard at this point, and you screeching is eternal.
>>220560956weak b8 m8
>>220566865Please provide the scene where Sifo-Dias is stated to have made the clone army... oh wait you aren't thinking of the scene where Dooku is actively fucking with Obi-wan when he's improsoned are you? Because if Obi-wan is supposed to believe that shit then the Jedi shouldnt question the fact the republic is ran by a sith lord and should not be fighting in the clone wars at all.My poor sad prequel tard
>>220566844>So why take the fucking jobFor money and prestige, he is a bounty hunter you imbecile. >>Bitches about a bomb being called loudI didn't bitch about it, I just pointed out the fact that you are too retarded to understand that the bomb assasination was the least risky way for them to do it.
>>220566897Man it sure is lucky that fucking robot didnt have a self destruct code huh?
>>220566923>Please provide the scene where Sifo-Dias is stated to have made the clone army...pic related
>>220566923>Please provide the scene where Sifo-Dias is stated to have made the clone armyDamn trannybro, you are literally fucking retarded.
>>220566902Faggot it doesnt matter if Jango has the option to use a untraceable weapon and one that has a small chance of being traced the choice is obvious. Thats like thinking that Jerking off on a corpse is a great idea because no one knows where the corpse is.
>>220566940the robot runs away because he doesn't want to get caught either. Have you ever seen a kamikaze drone in Star Wars? They simply aren't rigged with bombs.
Even prequelfags have to admit AOTC has shit script
>>220566975It doesn't matter, because Jango doesn't have any reason to assume that the Jedi will be able to track him based on this. You literally think that every single character has to do the only and most logical decisions all the time in hindsight, otherwise the plot is poorly written.BBC Sherlock was literally written with this mindset, for redditors like you.
>>220560956Only the original Star Wars movie was any good. It made the universe genuinely feel real. Every other Star Wars movie failed in that regard.5&6 are unimaginative and the prequels are too fantastical and absurd. Still, the prequels deserve more credit than 5&6 do for at least trying to be novel
>>220566966>>220566968You do realize Count Dooku could just say he is Sifo-Dias right? Thats the point. The Jedi even state Sifo-Dias is dead before the Kaminoans even start making the army. The Kaminoans dont talk with anyone outside their world and they spent 10 years without even contacting the Jedi Council. They have no idea which jedi is which and automatically assume Obi-wan is working for Sido-Dias. Holy shit how can you be this fucking dumb?
>>220566569He uses a traceable weapon and involves multiple unnecessary people.
>>220567013>Have you ever seen a kamikaze drone in Star Wars? They simply aren't rigged with bombs.
>>220567038>gets proven wrong>makes up more lies Jesus your neo-vagina fucking exploded
>>220567017AOTC is a snappy, efficient and fun adventure movie. I don't see how fucking with the script "fixes" it. It is already ludicrously economic with what the characters say and what it accomplishes. See: anakin flirting scenes with padme.
nostalgia turns sad men into unreasoned slaves of the past
>>220567023>Is working for a Jedi that knows of Kamino>Doesnt think any other Jedi might know about KaminoI swear you niggers never watch the movie you defend.
>>220567053You are just repeating the same ba talking points. Jango has no reason to assume that the weapon is traceable, and "unnecessary" people were actually neccessary, otherwise he would've been caught or be dead on the spot.
>>220567054got shot with high caliber blaster gun. Could've easily been the robot's own choice to go out on his own terms. Nothing says the empire rigged him to explode and remotely pulled the trigger.
>won so badly the force need two different chosen ones to stop him>came back in both shituels and legends. >makes Sith and Jedi seethe nonstop 24/7 365
>>220567059Obi-wan confirms with Yoda and Mace that sifo-dias was dead before the clones were ordered. Within the context of the film Sifo-Dias was a diversion so Count Dooku could commission the clone army in secret.
>>220567088>Jango has no reason to assume that the weapon is traceableThen he is a shitty bounty hunter
>>220567086>>Doesnt think any other Jedi might know about KaminoAnd not a single other Jedi knows of Kamino as shown in the movie. Sorry retardbro.
>>220567093>Nothing says the empire rigged him to explode and remotely pulled the trigger.Except Han... but sure anon whatever makes the shit writing in AOTC sting less.
>>220567054it's a long distance spy droid, would make sense it has a self destruct if detected or attacked.>source, I'm goerge lukes
>>220567128You only know that because you see it as a viewer of the movie. Jango has no reason to believe Dooku is the only Jedi that knows of Kamino.
>>220567148As opposed to an assassination droid on a top secret mission?
>>220566975>Jerking off on a corpse is a great idea because no one knows where the corpse is.shit. I used to think jerking off on a corpse was a bad idea but now I’m not sure
>>220567148>it's a long distance assassin droid, would make sense it has a self destruct if detected or attackedYeah I agree
I remember going to the midnight screening of episode 3, some guy screened Darth Vader is Anakin Skywalker. It was funny and we all laughed. I remember that moment more than I do watching the movie. I was 14 at the time and yes I wanted to go and no my parents don't care about star wars my brother and I went to see it.
>>220567099Palpatine is based and is by far the best thing in this shitty franchise
>>220567116They only confirm that he died about 10 years ago around the time the clones were ordered.
>>220567130There's travel time for transmissions and so also for remote commands to explode a droid. The droid committed suicide. Using the droid equivalent of those spy molar cyanide capsules.The droid in AOTC would not want to commit suicide in that situation. He was probably panicking and not a trained/programmed spy robot. You need to get it through your head that George Lucas writes droids as being essentially fully fledged people at all times.
>>220561049It is just fanboys being fanboys. Sequels are an improvement in everyway
>>220567154>Jango has no reasonAre you fucking retarded trannybro?Since Dooku was the one who most likely erased Kamino from the archives, it's safe to assume that Jango also knew about it. Holy midwit...
>>220567193>He was probably panicking and not a trained/programmed spy robot.Why even use a droid then? Sounds extremely unreliable.
>>220567193>all this head canon cope.You are one sad sucker>george weites droids like peopleUnless youre a battle droid
>2026>people are still filtered by the prequelsIt's funny because Lucas is not a subtle filmmaker, at all. Prequel hate is so calcified that it's cursed to repeat the same points forever no matter how irrelevant or wrong they are.
>ITT: a single prequel tard keeps getting btfo'd by multiple anonsIf I had a nickle for everytime this happened.
>>220567274It's the other way around, the single obsessed prequel hate tranny is getting his neo-vagina blown to pieces
>>220565307>>All signs point to Dooku actually being Sifo-Diassince i haven't heard this theory in literal decades I'll jump in and say this is heavily implied. I remember reading several spoiler-laden print reviews in 2002 and I'm pretty sure Time magazine's had a blurb that sifo dyas was just what the Kaminoans knew Dooku as. It's seared into my brain because I kept those magazine issues for a while and when the sifo dyas questions started flying on the forums I went back and reread that particular article. Generally most journalists are given a "press kit" that includes promotional photos and stills to use as well as a general plot outline and a guide to characters and motivations so they don't just get facts about the movie blatantly wrong. That's why my understanding has always been that Dooku=sifo dyas, at least at the time the movie was released. Thank you for your attention to this matter
>>220567227>except b1 battle droids no. They, and they in particular are written as people more than any other non hero droids. There's too many examples to count. They show fear, they can show pride, overconfidence. They get flustered. They can show cruelty, clear disregard for "lower class" droids, some sort of classism? Just watch the ep3 grievous bridge scene. b1 Captain gives grievous the hero lightsabers, doesn't get a thanks, sarcastically interjects a "you're welcome..." to his commander. The heroes, mostly obi wan, treat droids like appliances but the ship also falls out of orbit when they slaughter all the droid pilots who had been commanded by grievous to keep it in orbit. you think George wrote this stuff by coincidence? >>220567221Droids are always unreliable. The reason clones are superior combatants is precisely because they are more machine like. They actually have no capacity for higher thought or wisdom. They're programmed beings. Droids evolve and grow personalities as long as they aren't memory wiped. we see this over and over. R2D2 is the main example but everywhere we look there are droids that exhibit sentience, sapience and ability to grow. Why do you think jabba tortures droids? Why do you think torturing a droid works?
>hmm, so the only way for the Jedi archives to be tampered with is by a Jedi or ex-Jedi, and the neckians from the deleted planet neck are claim a Jedi who was dead ordered the clone army after he was dead, even though he wasn’t rich. Hmmm, are there any ex-Jedi who are rich and left the order thus wouldn’t know sifo-dias is dead? Hmmm… oh Quigon told me to ignore anything that seemed odd in the first movie so this all seems like it’s on the up and up.
>>220567290>Tranny obsessed prequel tard is also delusionalOne does have to be delusional to think the prequels are good and defend AOTC of all of them.
>>220567378The prequels are objetively great. And your 3 decade long hate campaing failed.
>>220567099>transmutes himself into The Senate, but retains his corporeal form>uses this now vestigial flesh puppet avatar the same way an angler fish uses it’s light, to lure Yoda inside of his own body>once he is there, the remnant of his former life as a man, begins fighting inside his new life form (in the form of a galactic institution). He literally begins tearing chunks of himself off, and flinging them at the most powerful opposition he will ever face, out of nothing more than self destructive spite, cackling with malicious glee as he does so.>Despite the fact he is actively self harming, he easily forces Yoda to flee, not just from the one battle, but into lifelong exile out of the realisation of just how unevenly matched they really are. Simultaneously, Yoda is unable to ever grasp the horrific reality that he should have been fighting the building, not the man. No wonder he kept returning and ruining everything for everyone else. He was just far too powerful for the universe he existed within to contain in any meaningful way. No one else in universe was able to comprehend the fact that all you needed to do was blow up the old senate building on Coruscant. Because no one else had ever achieved the power to become a building.
Why didn’t Jango just fire a rocket inside Padme’s bedroom?
>>220567427Obi Wan would have jumped on it and surfed it towards an empty construction sight. At the last second, Anakin would have flown above him, upside down, in a speeder, clasped their hands together, and lifted him to safety just in time to barely outrun the flames from the explosion. Standard Jedi tactics really. Nothing unorthodox.
SOMEHOW DARTH NIGGER HAS RETURNED
>>220564027what is up with ROTJ hate? even many prequel haters insist it's significantly worse than 4 and 5.as an aside, my father was 6 when star wars came out, his two favorite are 1 and 6. Kinda based
>>220560956clones has always been my favorite star wars movie, at least since it came out(replaced V) and it has always baffled me that people dislike it.yes, everything that happens on geonesis is fucking dope
>>220567570I like rotj but as a movie it isn’t really good. After jabba’s palace it’s extremely strained to try to give all the non-Luke characters something to do, all for the sake of Death Star 2.0
>>220567389If they were objectively great its defenders wouldnt continually seethe over internet reviews.
>>220567696Even the Jabba's palace sequence is contrived and filled with plotholes.
>>220567736No, it really isn’t
>>220567757Yeah it kind of is. The fact Lando is already there and they waited until the Droids and Chewie were imprisoned before attempting to unfreeze Han is asinine.
>>220561049Mostly in agreement with you but RotJ Luke v Vader is the best fight in the series. Colour palette is immaculate and Luke losing his shit and smashing Vader before he cuts his hand off is absolutely unfettered kinography.
>>220561248I feast on the joy I receive from that moist-eyed smug fuck Simon Pegg ragging on the sequels and then having a cameo in Disney Wars of all things.
>>220567696that's not enough, though. the thrid act is split between these two plots. even if one isn't great, luke/vade/palps is one of the greatest 3rd acts in cinema. it more than makes up for it.
>>220562042I hate and love how true this really is. most people hate the prequels because they are stupid as shit.The people that love the sequels are absolutely communistic as shit.and the people that love the prequels are high class as shit. IT JUST ADDS UP.
>>220561049>Obi-Wan vs Jango Fettone of the most underrated fights in the series. very based
>>220567771>it’s asinine to have an inside manonly han knew jabba, everyone else had no information on him.
>>220567861Someone who liked the movie pointed out an utterly massive flaw with it that even they can’t ignore. All the endor stuff drags hard and if you hate the ewoks it would be unbearable.
>>220567882Anon the books under the prequels came form the cliffsnotes george had on his desk in the BTS footage where he sits down to write the prequels for the first time ever, just before filming.
>>220568060Its retarded to not just use inside man to free the guy youre trying to save.
>>220560956RLMnigger will look you straight in the eyes and without a hint of sarcasm tell you he loves black cocks in his wife's ass.
>>220561049Look at all the seethe under your post. It's a thing of beauty.
>>220560956i feel like the dimensions of the arena keep changing from scene to scene. when all the jedi arrived there was room for a full out sprint from both sides. some autist needs to compare every frame the arena appears in
>>220568164Anon the entire point was to kill jabba, as that’s the only way Han would be free.
>>220568264>Anon the entire point was to kill jabbaReally? Because the movie treat's Jabba's death as more or less incidental and Luke even gives the fucker multiple chances to give up Han peacefully.
>>220568099what's there to hate about ewoks?
>>220568122it just makes sense that george wanted to really put the wars in star wars, and that not only comes with the grunts swinging swords and shooting laser rifles.
>>220568122>cliffsnotes>not the actual booksPeek midwit behavior no wonder prequeltards are the biggest fart snuffing retards but immediately become raging fanboys the moment they see an internet review point out how shallow the prequels are.
>>220560956why does every thread about criticism of the prequels end up with 200+ replies, y'all need to grow up
>>220568392You should watch rotj again. Theatrical of course. >who came up with this plan>luke?! We all have delusions of grandeur [sic]
>>220568511Anon. you read cliffsnotes to avoid reading a book to pass a test. Making a movie isn’t “a test.”
>>220568638Because there’s always one prequelfag willing to die on the hill and it’s fun to enrage him with facts and logic.
>>220563437> you can see that her servants and body guards rush into the roomJust the sort of bruisers to deter a expert bounty hunter/assassin, he’d have no chance!
Jango hiring a partner for a high-risk op is like the last problem AoTC has.Did people seriously just assume he outsourced it like he was factoring out a payable and had zero involvement after that?He was literally observing Zam the whole time like mission control.
>>220569256Factor the incompetence of his outsourced labor.
>>220561049Its the only star wars film that i dont like from the Lucas era, bro. Sorry. Tho I admire you for liking it sincerely. And wont shit on your movie. It seems you can actually defend your position.
>>220563020Retard doesn't know how to watch a movie. How sad. You are a fag
>>220561049Clones vs Droids on Geonosis is quite objectively the best large scale battle of the franchise, after the ANH trench run
>>220563911Sipping my Grogu Blue Cookie Shake rn with my GF while we watch The Acolyte
>>220561049Lol
>>220569663>leaving out hoth>leaving out endor>leaving out the phantom menace battles
>>220567771>Lando is already there and they waited until the Droids and Chewie were imprisonedThe droids and Chewie getting captured was part of Luke's plan you mouth breathing mongoloid cocksucker
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>>220568805No one is falling for your agenda
>>220561049FPBP
The prequels will always be shitJust like you'll always defend them because you enjoy eating feces
>>220569753Cool that just makes Luke look stupid
>>220563911You just sound like an out of touch grandma that doesnt know who Cal Kestis is
>>220561049Everyone was cracking up in the theater during the love scenes. I guess you were a little baby though.
>>220561049>all those repliesLmao
After a rewatch of the whole series I honestly do feel that it's underrated. My only problem is that Anakin comes off as too unhinged at times and the kid actor is horrible. Visually however, along with the soundtrack and general plot, it was really good and better than I remember. TPM is still a slog though.
>>220571563>Anakin comes off as too unhinged at timeshe goes from 0-100 everytime he talks about padme or his emotions
>>220562924What does the OT have to do with Italian architecture, the fall of the Roman Republic and Shakespearean romance? Nothing. It's King Arthur + "big boom in space".
>>220571824Never heard of Hero with a thousand faces have you?
>>220571654whats his level when he talks about sand?
