>Owned a watch featuring the Zodiac cross-circle logo and wore size 10.5 shoes, matching the Wing Walker military boot prints left at the Lake Berryessa crime scene.>Zodiac survivor Michael Mageau identified Allen out of a police line-up. >Worked in Vallejo, California, in close proximity to the locations of several of the killer's early attacks.>As a school teacher, Allen taught his students how to crack ciphers. When the unsolved Zodiac ciphers are reverse-engineered using the names of major suspects, "Arthur Leigh Allen" fits the letter substitution.>The murders and taunting letters sent to newspapers temporarily stopped while Allen was in prison for child molestation in the 1970s.>In the 2024 Netflix documentary This Is the Zodiac Speaking, individuals who knew Allen personally claimed he took them to known crime scenes prior to the murders and allegedly admitted to them that he was the killer.>He was a low IQ retard with unsophisticated language similarly to the Zodiac Killer>Cops: "Nah this guy seems completely innocent lol"Uhhh...
>>220569177Cops are literally people that were too stupid for any other job, I'm surprised they ever catch anyone
San Francisco seems like a cool place to live, minus the homeless problem.
>>220569177It was ted cruz
Is any of that enough for a jury to convict him?
>>220569177"The last time I saw this face was July 4th, 1969. I am VERY sure that's the man who shot me.">hmmmmm hmmmmm hmmmmm hmmmmm
He was too fat, all the other witnesses described the killer as about 100lbs lighter than Arthur Allen Leigh
>>220569177It was him. He got rid of all the smoking guns (he never licked the letters or touched things with his bare fingers) but the rest of it, ESPECIALLY how no letters were sent when he was in prision, show he was Zodiac.
>>220569570>Thrown like a star in my vast sleep>I opened my eyes to take a peek>To find that I was by the sea>Gazing with tranquility
>>220569177Sorry OP, everyone on the force had just watched 12 Angry Men, and knew that anyone can own the same watch and boots. A jury would just bring them to the deliberations. Stick the evidence OP. HANDWRITING! and a print that could be from ANYONE.
Who gives a fuck, it will never be solved
>>220569177You seem to be trying too hard to paint this guy as the killer. Maybe you are the real zodiac.
>>220569679Who licked the letters? You?
Zodiac came out almost 20 years ago and it was the last good movie Fincher made. Grim.
>>220569177Allen was just a fat slobby child molester, he doesn't fit the obsessive psychological profile of Zodiac
>>220569306Not in California. If Mike Mageau had marks on his nose from glasses, the jury would disregard his testimony. Then the defense would call the handwriting expert to the stand to tell the retards in the jury box that the K's didn't match. Then someone would have to testify about no prints matching, then the attorney would accuse the police of trying to frame his client because of his record, and being a criminal. Lee was a good boy and turning his life around. The whole movie is an exercise is how stupid police work was back in that time and needed an update to using actual evidence and not hokey shit like handwriting and fortune tellers.
>>220569679or just someone who knew he was in prison
>>220569837No one, just use a damp sponge.
>>220570146There was saliva with DNA, just not his DNA. Also, did this low iq retard predicted that in 40 years police will be able to identify him from DNA and let someone else lick his letters? That's a stretch.
yeah the stuff in the "This is the Zodiac Speaking" doc seemed to be absolute proof that it was him, or at least mostly him
>>220569861Damn fine movie it was too, more's the pity.
who was in the wrong here?
>>220569177>>Cops: "Nah this guy seems completely innocent lol">Uhhh...You have to realize, we're going off on the word of Robert Greysmith. Zodiac is based on his take of information that the police were willing to give him, and he was more than happy to form his own opinions and push them, even if they weren't verified, and it's because of his bias that everyone thinks Arthur Leigh Allen, despite not matching the description of the Zodiac. Graysmith didn't even meet the guy and fabricated a lot of the evidence in his book to point at Allen because of confirmation bias. And it's not even the first time he's done this. He also wrote a book on Bob Crane, which was adapted and made into pic related (it's actually pretty good), but that movie isn't accurate and is filled with the confirmation bias of Graysmith AND the dumbass cops who fumbled the case.
>>220570364Sorry, wrong pic. That's Graysmith, this is Auto Focus which was based on his book, which covered the Bob Crane murder.
>>220570315>>220569861>Gone GirlGreat>Social NetworkGood, great to some.>The Killermid but parts were great
>>220569200Killers are generally even stupider.>>220569306Detectives tell you you generally need the same thing every time. You need to connect them to the body, you need to connect them to the weapon, you need to connect them to the scene. Pretty much everything else is circumstantial. His show size is a common one so if that's what you're bringing to court even a public defender will point that out. It is unironically not enough.
>>220570336I'd rather die on the spot than be tied up and have god knows what done to me.
>>220570432you think Killers are stupid because only the dumb ones have been caught
>>220570452Most killers are stupid enough to get caught yes. It is not that hard to say no to questioning for example but most of them do it anyway.
>>220570336The man seemed to have zero survival instincts while the women was ready for action.
>>220569177People give the Zodiac Killer way too much credit as a serial killer, thanks to the movie. Dude was actually terrible at his job if so many people were able to survive him. If anything, the police were the biggest obstacle to catching him because they were so terrible at their job.
>>220570257The use of DNA for ruling out subjects came about in the 70s, so more like 5-10 years, and it was predicted in sci-fi works well before (earliest I can find is 1953 with Arthur Clarke's Childhood's End)
>>220569177Yes yes good evidence, however he said he wasn't the zodiac
>>220570653Similar shoe size and not being available when letters are sent or having a watch with a symbol on it are not good evidence lolMost of that can't even be seriously considered circumstantial. The line up identification is pretty much the only thing.
>>220569177He used to babysit a friend's kids and he'd bring the kids along when he went out murdering so he'd get waved through police roadblocks on the way home.>Good afternoon sir. Mind telling me why you're driving erratically in a car filled with unconscious children while covered in blood and holding a gun?>"Um.... I'd rather not say.">Fair enough. Move along sir.
>>220569177He was part of a cult he was let off they knew it was him
>>220569177I think there's still reason for doubt. We don't want to jail an innocent do we?
>>220569983>how stupid police work was back in that time and needed an update to using actual evidence and not hokey shit like handwriting and fortune tellers>hokey shit like handwriting and fortune tellersthat's pretty based though, and hella fun. I wouldn't mind jury duty at all under those premises
Hey guys, can you debunk THIS?https://zodiackillerfacts.com/zodiac-theories/the-accused-the-accusers/graysmith-unmasked-2/
>>220570699>Similar shoe size10.5 is the most average shoe size in the country.
>>220570653Yeah this is a good point. I mean if he was the Zodiac, why on earth would he say he wasn't? Just doesn't add up.
>>220570920You must also think your 3 inch penis is huge.
>>220569177i have the same hairstyle
>>220569273Never underestimate a man denied his delegates.
>>220570389Hoooooogan!
>>220569861>>220570398The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
>>220570653>>220570937You guys must be cops right?
>>220569177That guy looks like what Shane Gillis will in 15 years
>>220571062If you're curious it's "7 sweaty
>>220569258only on tv. its an expensive pain in the dick in reality.
>>220570699>All circumstances align with the known pedophile >Picked out in a lineup>Oh well not enough proofLet me guess, you think 12 Angry Men is a good movie
>>220569177What if the Zodiac killer was an attractive woman?
>>220569258>San Francisco seems like a cool place to live, minus the homeless problem.It was the best city on the planet for about 20 years. Now it's a hellscape.
>>220569177didn't they make up a bunch of evidence in this movie about him and then they found out way later after the movie came out that it definitely wasn't him?
>"casio killer">wears a casio watchreally hollywood??
>>220571062It’s 5.5” for your information.
>>220569177he literally told you he wasnt
very funny to me that people seethe so much at the losers idolizing the zodiac that they resort to pretending he was the most retarded man in the US, the Halloween card likely implies he kept getting away with it years later.
>>220572616If the witness reneges on the lineup or isnt convincing during cross examination it won't be enough.
>>220569177>Allen was in prison for child molestation in the 1970s.you already answered your own question, he was part of the club
>>220569273wtf I'm a cruz missile now
>>220569177You will never get a satisfying answer to this mystery and it will never be concretely solved.This was half the point of the movie btw
>>220569258And the homosexual problem
>>220571444You can't park there
>>220569789The Zodiac case really loses its morbid glamor when you realize he was a much more prolific letter writer than murderer and spent most of his time just complaining that the public wasn't gawking about him enough or in the ways he wanted.
>>220569258The "homeless" problem in California is like 80% a fox news meme. There's the sirloin in SF and skidrow in LA where they're concentrated but keep in mind the services are all located there so that's where they all hang out. The clips are like the same 2 square miles across both cities. The place it actually gets bad is way far in the north when it's trimming season. The trimmigrants get paid and hang out around Eureka until they're out of cash so they end up on the street. I visited there awhile ago and there were people huddled in EVERY store entryway trying to get out of the rain. Store owners had laser deterrents that fuck up your eyes and noisemakers and people just coped with it. Shit was incredibly sad.
>>220573876most killers lose their glamor once you realize most, if not all of them, are kinda just pathetic weirdos
>>220569258It used to be arguably the greatest American city, then homeless druggie niggers happened
>>220569177people just need to come to grips with the fact that the perfect killer was a retarded fat man.
>>220570432Makes sense that cops are killers.
>>220570699>The line up identification is pretty much the only thing.And that happened 20 years after the shooting
>>220569200Cops vs RobbersMorons vs RetardsAt least detectives are smarter and more conscientious than the average beat cop.
>>220569258>>220572656No no no, you're thinking of San Diego.
>>220574202Well yeah, you’re a real fucking loser if you need to surprise couples who are out for a picnic with a gun just to feel powerful. There’s no chance in hell Zodiac would have got into a boxing ring. He might have got hurt. Slasher movies love to make these guys out to be evil forces of nature but they usually do some really limp wristed shit like shooting people from a distance or ambushing a 120lb woman. By and large they’re cowards. BTK for instance. Bind, Torture, Kill. He didn’t just call himself “K” and he especially would never have just tried to approach a big man on the street and square up with him for mutual combat. He would have got his shit rocked, and he knew it. If anyone ever starts giving you serial killer vibes, legitimately just try punching them square in the fucking mouth. They hate that.
>>220569200>>220569306>>220569679>>220569758>>220570257>>220570287>>220570653>>220570699it doesn`t matter what you know or think you know, the only thing that matters is what you can prove in a court of law.
>>220570495You do not know what you are talking about. Most murders are unsolved because police do not have the resources to make a case. It is not a question of intelligence for either party. It is very hard to say no under pressure by detectives who spend their lives making people crack. Cops will lie extensively to maneuver you into thinking capitulation is your only option even if you're innocent.
>>220570364Sounds like something the Zodiac would say
>In 2004, the San Francisco Police Department marked the case "inactive," but subsequently re-opened the case in 2006. The California Department of Justice, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the city of Vallejo, and the Napa and Solano county sheriffs maintain the case status as "open."What do the cops working on these decade old cold cases do all day?
>>220575745 random people are doing better work than the FBIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CJsKJ0XKP4
>>220575844https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1oQLPRE21o
>>220569177Zodiac was CIA psyop
>>220575238Plenty of people beat other people to death
>>220569177>As a school teacher, Allen taught his students how to crack ciphers. When the unsolved Zodiac ciphers are reverse-engineered using the names of major suspects, "Arthur Leigh Allen" fits the letter substitution.what the fuck does that even mean
>>220575290i think you just have to convince a jury
>>220576544Crack the cipher and the answer becomes clear
>>2205691771. The watches were commonly worn back then. The shoe size is also common for a dude2. The ID happened 20 years later. At the time, Mageau said he never got a good look at the killer. Other witnesses said ALA looked nothing like the suspect.3. So did 1000s of men. The ciphers can be engineered to name anyone.4. Partially true, but Zodiac communication was sporadic anyway.5. This was reported decades later. No proven confession from ALA. Researchers are sceptical of the netflix docu.6. No real evidence ALA was low-IQ. He worked as a teacher. Also, many believe the Zodiac deliberately misspelled words as subterfuge.
>>220576544Do you not know what a cipher is?If you watched the movie you wouldn't be confused
>>220573961>sirlointenderloin, also they drop trou right in the streets
>>220575290jury trials have nothing to do with "proof" and any competent attorney is most invested in selling a story to jurors that either diminishes or increases reasonable doubt in light of the available evidence. there have been murder trials where the defendant got off because their representation convinced the jurors it was plausible the victim had committed suicide by repeatedly stabbing themselves in the back -- they didn't have to "prove" that suicide is definitely what happened.
>>220575745It's not like there's some sad, miserable, fat old cop locked in the basement of the PD, being forced to toil over these old cases.
>>220569273Those that bless Israel will be blessed
>>220575238Just remembered that time BTK broke into a place to kill a woman but ran like a pussy when he realized the husband/boyfriend was home. Also his downfall was hilarious
>>220576993>No real evidence ALA was low-IQ. He worked as a teacher.You provided evidence in the very next sentence.
>>220577079ThisIf you were to compare volume of judges and attorneys, they are VASTLY outweighed. There is no logically way you can supply intelligent due process to every legal issue given the sheer volume. The legal system is mainly just a dog and pony show. At this point, court systems are just a boogeyman. It's so that you can more easily pretend that humans are intelligent where it matters (in law, in medicine, in engineering)Society is dying because intelligence is being smothered by regular people. I hope I live long enough to see society break down to where I can see this normalshits crying and getting killed because now they can't just rely on the vague threat of organized society.
>>220569177There was no zodiac killer
>>220577552Ok then what are they doing?
>>220569177They asked him if he was the Zodiac and he said he wasn't. Sorry, but case closed.
>>220572728Gimme a Rolex… so I can sell it and buy several G-Shocks.
>>220569177The police can't tell the heros from the criminals. I know from personal experience.
>>220569177>individuals who knew Allen personally claimed he took them to known crime scenes prior to the murders and allegedly admitted to them that he was the killer.if you know anything about true crime, shit like that is completely worthless.It's usually guy bragging, admitting to someting he didn't do or, more often, those witness are confabulating because they want to be part of the story. And they often do it unintentionally
>>220569177I kind of hate how much this movie has muddled online zodiac killer discourse
>>220576544>When the unsolved Zodiac ciphers are reverse-engineered using the names of major suspects, "Arthur Leigh Allen" fits the letter substitution.sauce for that?
>>220569258The homeful crowd is even worse
>Arthur Leigh Allen was the ZodiacI'm sorry but were you there? Then shut the fuck up
He said he wasn't the Zodiac and he seems trustworthy
>>220575745>What do the cops working on these decade old cold cases do all day?
>>220569177
>>220579350wouldnt 12 men be too many to keep a secret?
>>220579350i could see multiple people but 12 is absurd
>>220579507You can't have a zodiac from three stupid cockfface
>>220575238I would love to watch serial killers have to throw a baseball and note the results, I have a theory
>>220574202>>220575238The average serial killer is a gangster groid. Your alpha male shit would get you one tapped.
>>220579606you sound like you can't throw a baseball iykwim
>>220569177>Owned a watch featuring the Zodiac cross-circle logo and wore size 10.5 shoes, matching the Wing Walker military boot prints left at the Lake Berryessa crime scene.Watch meant nothing, it was a popular brand and many men wear size 10.5>Zodiac survivor Michael Mageau identified Allen out of a police line-up.He was a cracked out junky decades removed from the incident>Worked in Vallejo, California, in close proximity to the locations of several of the killer's early attacks.It’s where he lived>As a school teacher, Allen taught his students how to crack ciphers. When the unsolved Zodiac ciphers are reverse-engineered using the names of major suspects, "Arthur Leigh Allen" fits the letter substitution.Coincidence>The murders and taunting letters sent to newspapers temporarily stopped while Allen was in prison for child molestation in the 1970s.The zodiac was sporadic in his letters anyways>In the 2024 Netflix documentary This Is the Zodiac Speaking, individuals who knew Allen personally claimed he took them to known crime scenes prior to the murders and allegedly admitted to them that he was the killer.He was a weirdo that liked to scare his neighbors into thinking he was the zodiac>He was a low IQ retard with unsophisticated language similarly to the Zodiac KillerMeans nothing>Cops: "Nah this guy seems completely innocent lol"No finger prints, no weapons in his possession that matched the forensics, no access to military bases or equipment. Not to mention he doesn’t look at all like the witness sketch. The zodiac was probably just some schizo Vietnam vet that found out that he loved killing people and decided to continue it back home.
>>220570550>thanks to the movieNot the movie. It was the fact that he was using code and trying to communicate with the papers and the public, so it was instant publicity.
>>220575745>What do the cops working on these decade old cold cases do all day?Anon they're still working a full case load, but on the odd chance that someone comes forward, or there's some new forensic test they could try on evidence.
>>220579668The biggest proof that Arthur Lee Retard isnt the zodiac is that they got DNA evidence from one of the supposed true Zodiac postcards and they used that to prove that the one zesty San Francisco detective forged at least one so called zodiac postcard.
>>220569258It can still be comfy based purely on the landscape and weather but the old comfy culture of nice old hippie boomers and young poor bohemiam people has been killed by tech transplants. Everyone is so cold and standoff-ish if you don't run in similar circles now.
>>220569861Wrong, his last masterpiece was The Social Network and his last really good movie was Gone Girl, but yeah Fincher has had a hard fall off, he used to one of my favorite contemperary directors around and he now he just seems washed.
>>220569200Nine times out of ten they catch someone because someone comes forward
>>220569306No, all circumstantial
Bob Chandler was the Zodiac Killer >Age would line up perfectly>Bob was confirmed to have been around the areas Zodiac was active at the time>Both wore dark horned rimmed glasses>Bob was in the military which is where he could've probably picked up cryptography as a hobby >Zodiak is somewhere between five foot eight and six foot. Bob Chandler was around five foot ten placing him somewhere in the middle
>>220569306If I was on the jury I would not vote guilty based on that, it's not enough
>>220570550>thanks to the movieyeah, barely anyone knew who the zodiac was before the movie lmao
>>220569177>Uhhh...He said he's not the Zodiac though
He literally said he's not the Zodiac. Watch it again and gt off your phone and try paying attention dumbass zoomer
>>220572777god DAMN it, back to square one
Why are people so obsessed with this mid ahhh cereal killer anyway? Weak body count and a cringe redditor
>>220580551He had a funny costume and shittalked the cops in the modern era and had the mystique of his gay little puzzles.He also had a Dirty Harry movie based on him.
>>220580586he was like the riddler but a little less gay
>>220580381this guy?
>>220569177I believe the cops didn't arrest him because it had gone on so long it would almost be more embarrassing to catch him and have the killer end up being this midwit retard that eluded you all those years. If you never catch him, you can claim the mythology that he must have been some sort of genius mastermind killer and somehow that actually makes the police look less incompetent
>>220580960they didn't arrest him because they didn't have any hard evidence and the press meddling in the active investigation meant they couldn't get any hard evidence, as the press' involvement made all evidence they could get circumstantial.this is also the case where law enforcement was able to get the supreme court to rule that the press reporting on active investigations was obstruction of justice.also the only thing connecting any of the murders is the press coverage of the murders.
There's a memo in the FBI Zodiac files that says the SFPD detective, whose name escapes me (Mark Ruffalo played him), wrote at least three Zodiac lettersThe source mentioned is the chief of San Francisco policeNot sure why the FBI would lie about this in internal memoranda, I believe there's also reference to a US Postal Service investigation that fingered this cop as having written some Zodiac lettersSurprised this isn't more widely known, meanwhile the police sketch from the San Fran murder looks exactly like the other detective, the one played by the guy from ERSo probably the reason they never solved it is it was (at least partly) a hoax that the police went along with to get the crime wave / race war under control
>>220581510link to the memo?
>>220581728https://vault.fbi.gov/various bloggers can point to the specific file/page, I don't remember but you can search it out I'm sure
>>220581510Toschi was his name. They got DNA off his hoaxed letters and it didnt match with the partial profile they got off a 78 letter.Whether the 78 letter was written by the murderer is another thing.
>>220569177>low IQ retard>knowledge of ciphers>able to handle high stress situations and keep a consistent story>former teacheruhhhh
>>220581861>Toschithanks>didn't matchNo Toschi wrote the 78 letter, that's the one that names Toschi
>>220581510>>220581728I decided to look it up, it's in part 5, page 122Very hard to read though, zoomers can take a look and realise how happy people were when they invented scanners>8/16/79>SAC, San Francisco>Director, FBI>[unreadable address]>Original request for psychological profile of person authoring most recent Zodiac letters has not been accomplished to date since Police Chief Charles Gain, San Francisco, California Police Department has [1] that Inspector David Toschi had actually written three letters himself to gain publicity for the case.>This Police [2] matter is considered [?] by the Behavioral Science Unit, Training Division.(1 - announced?)(2 - cooperation?)
>>220570584>70slate 80s and it wasn't commonly used AT ALL until the 90s/2000s. There was a good stretch in the 90s where it wasn't clear it would ever be broadly admissible in court.t. PhD in forensics/statistics
>>220569306All that seems like circumstantial evidence and I'm pretty sure no person in the usa has ever been convicted out of circumstantial evidence aloneIt's called circumstantial for a reason, it's not direct evidence it's indirect shit>Thousands of people work in proximity of the attack>Thousands of people know what a cipher is or how to crack it, it's literally a hobby and I'm pretty sure it was also posted on the newspaper>Thousands of people wear industry manufactured shoes, they literally made them in a factory in batches of thousands>Thousands of people wear industry manufactured watches, they literally made them in a factory in batches of thousandsThis is the weakest shit everIf you told me he's wearing a unique handcrafted watch, unique handmade boots, you could at least have STRONG circumstantial evidence that is borderling evidence.But all OP has presented is weak shit (except pointing him out in a police lineup, that's strong evidence unless it was paired with "It was pretty dark" shit)
>>220582268Is DNA really all that accurate/useful?
>>220582379always remember bayes law, but yes.Fun fact, one of my professors contributed heavily to OJ getting off the hook. He was the prosecution's geneticist and he made a small error, which the defense tore to shreds.
The "Zodiac Killer" was a US Naval Intelligence psyop, I forget what the actual purpose of it was but I'm pretty sure it was some kind of clean up or cover up operation, with the added bonus that they got Americans scared of so-called "serial killers"
>The Zodiac Killer was a real serial killerlmao
>>220573961>I don't see any homeless near me so it's not actually a problemt. lives in bumfuck nowhere in CaliforniaNo one claims that every single square inch of a state larger than the entirety of Japan is rife with homeless. But practically every metropolitan area is teeming with them.
>>220569177I think Robert Graysmith was Zodiac
>>220582301>except pointing him out in a police lineup, that's strong evidence unless it was paired with "It was pretty dark" shitIt WAS pretty dark and the photo lineup happened 20 years afterward
>>220577027sirloin kek
>>220579350Interesting take
>>220582805why couldnt it be a psyop and they had a guy commit the murders? charles manson certainly did some vile shit on behalf of uncle sam
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>>220569177>He was a low IQ retard with unsophisticated language similarly to the Zodiac Killer>Yet makes puzzles even the NSA/CIA can't solveAlso, why didn't the murders go up when he got out of prison in 1982?Psychopathic serial killers don't just "stop".
>>220579541yes you can if each man has 4 personalities
>>220573961bro shut the fuck upI live in a nice suburban area of los angeles county and we get homeless people shambling through all the timeand there are no services or whatever the fuck for them here I saw a guy taking a shit on the side of a building that sells second hand children's clothes only two days ago, only a block away from a high school
>>220588138>makes puzzles even the NSA/CIA can't solvelearn how ciphers works
>>220569177Zodiac is the greatest horror film of all time.If you don't agree with me, FUCK YOU.
>>220589296It's a horror movie? More of a thriller, no?
>>220569177Why are people so obsessed with the Zodiac killer? didn't he just kill like 4 people?
>>220590155Also he wasn't even one of those shocking gruesome killers, he just went around shooting people
>>220573961they do the same thing with philadelphia in posting one street in Kensington and pretending the entire city is exactly like that.
Another problem with cities in the US is municipal fragmentation making the stats skewed and making people much more willing to shit-talk a city they don't legally live in, but basically live in. t. tired of seeing people in St. Louis County pretend like they aren't from St. Louis
>>220580711how can someone be this ignorant of christory
>>220590248I live in LA and the homeless shithole problem has spread even worse since covfefe.My baby momma lives in a nice expensive suburb and even there you can find homeless niggers screaming their lungs out at 2 AM.
>>220590155Probably the letters and cipher captivated people. At the time they put this out front instead of all the murders being committed by black people.
>>220590155Because he was never caught, wrote creepy ciphers/letters, different M.Os of the killings
>>220584448useless then, and becomes weak circumstantial
>>220577956>Also his downfall was hilariousHe's such a fucking idiot.He's interesting only in his weird double life. He wasn't a loner or whatever. Just done church going dad. Fucking demons.
>>220579668Now put that sketch up against Bill ArmstrongBtw does anybody know if Armstrong wore glasses back then? Fincher portrays him wearing glasses in a couple of scenes but I haven't seen any real pictures of Armstrong wearing glasses, except one when he was old
>>220580711Based
>>220573961>skid row in LA>20 years ago, skid row was about three square blocks centered around 5th and Broadway. Now, the homeless have spilled over into the garment and jewelry districts and take about 20 square blocks. And that's just downtown. There are homeless encampments everywhere now. And in the suburban Orange County city I live in, I never would see homeless in my neighborhood or even my part of town. You'd have to go down to the area by the railroad yards to see them. Now they are a regular fixture, including at the gas station at the entrance to my neighborhood and ambling along the thoroughfare in front of my development. They hang out at the local restaurants, grocery stores, and drive thrus, either loitering or sleeping inside or setting up little nests in the planters.>it's an 80% Fox News memeUh, no, it's not. Go fuck yourself>t. 50-year-old SoCal native
>>220570364this anon is the zodiac
>>220578077>He worked as a teacher.I'm in Mensa and most of us are teachers.
>>2205901555 proven. not caught, the outfit, etc.Also, the question of if he genuinely believed anything he said, or if it was all just shock value or messing with the press.
>>220588138BTK and the Golden State Killer/EARONS both stopped when they were getting older as family men
>>220569177turns out the real crime was 'police incompetence' all along.
>>220594151And yet you just said something retarded, curious
>>220590155"Whatever happened there", it was a publicity stunt and it workedWe're still talking about it because it was contrived to catch the public's interest
>>220588138>Psychopathic serial killers don't just "stop".Many of them do though.
>>220595758Yes we do
>>220588138It's trivial to make uncrackable ciphers, especially if you make some deliberately fake ones and also spell like a dukbass
>>220572841This kek
>>220579606Obviously they’d one tap me. With their gun. From behind. Like the absolutely unathletic, cowardly losers they are. I am a large, slightly overweight man with an anger management problem and a drinking problem, and I would heem the fuck out of most serial killers. Same way I would to most men ITT if they wanted to get even slightly confrontational at the gas station. I’ve done it before, and I’ll do it again, courts be fucking damned. Yes, a gun would be more deadly , and some chop socky bullshit would perhaps do longer lasting damage. But never underestimate a man who is ready to punch you straight in the kisser from he moment he first lays eyes on you, because he has problems with alcohol and his interpersonal relationships so that’s his default setting. Aggravated assault is a different crime, and it’s absolutely the counter to some skulking serial killer. In my world, the first punch is what allows the following eight to land flush, and a real public nuisance never throws second.
>>220597075alright pal
>>220596595Makes sense. Misspellings that still make sense when read, would confuse things. Especially if you keep using the same misspelling. doktordoctordoctadoctreYou could treat multiple words like this, and really drag things out. Especially if you can drastically chaaengue the numba of letters needed to spell a word. I have no interest in killing anyone, but this will be useful to write my theories during my inevitable descent into paranoid school (tentatively expected next month or so). I can’t have the GANGSTALKERS read them now, can I?
>>220594151Makes sense. Your wash out, do nothing careers leaves you lots of free time to get good at mind puzzles like sudoku and scrabble. That’s all an IQ test is anyway, and you freaks love seeing how different people’s attempts at these sorts of activities grade on a standard bell curve.Plus, I guess whiling away the hours fantasising about your next iq test and the possibility for a higher percentile score fills in the gaps between allowing the boys to be violently bullied and leering at the under-developed girls.
>>220575290Wrong
