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>hell good
>heaven bad
>demons misunderstood dindus
>angels the actual evil bad guys
>Christ doesn't exist in the show, therefore He doesn't save
>but Lucifer does exist, yet he's depicted as a good guy and heroic figure who GAVE humans free will to begin with, cause apparently they didn't have it beforehand or whatever (lol)
Why is this such a common thing for a lot of these shows?
I'm talking about Hazbin in this example, obviously, but there's a lot more out there that tackle this to some extent and it's always some form of subversion of anything Biblical of Christianity related.
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Vivziepop doesn't know what the fuck she is doing and she admitted to that multiple times on interviews before. The way her writing goes is that she basically just thinks of some cool scenes involving her OC characters, or in this case, characters of the show then attempts to find a way to force the overarching story to happen in such a way that allows for those cool moments to take place.

As far as her knowledge of Christianity and the Bible goes.... LMAO. She thinks she knows yet she does not understand ANYTHING, not even what Salvation means and how you achieve it (through faith in Jesus Christ alone). It's why there's no such thing in her show. Jesus doesn't exist in it and basically no one in the show, not even Angels themselves know what makes someone "worthy" of heaven or hell. She's basically making a statement that it's all arbitrary, even though it's as far as it could be from the truth.

She would know if she actually cared enough to read the Bible through and try to understand what the words mean, but she doesn't. She's just vaguely aware of some basic ass Christian beliefs along with whatever "mythology" or spiritual beliefs related to it surrounding spiritual beings like angels and demons and at the end of it, she just created some weird personal head canon amalgamation of what Christianity is like and then depicts her show based off that retarded head canon she made up.

All of this because she continues to remain angry and bitter over the fact mommy and daddy forced her to wake up early on Sunday to attend church service when she wanted to just sleep in like a pig.
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>>220572374
>>220572495
It’s literally the sabbath and you two are on 4chan, generating ad revenue for the facilitation of all sorts of sin across the various boards. Go ahead, post him. I’m still righted
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reddit safe edgy
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it isn't actually "hell good" though
hell is full of cannibals and random psychopaths, as well as just gays and drug addicts and normal people
and heaven is full of polite nice people who are good at following rules and being nice, but bad at everything else
it's actually an extremely accurate depiction of the realistic demographics of heaven and hell
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>>220572374
the character designs and illustrations are just so bad. god i hate fat/autistic women their art is always the worst
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>>220572374
As a Frenchman I can tell you America is far more anti-Christian than even godless Europeans. America is ruled by the Jews. Jews hate Christianity.
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>>220572612
nigga what?
retarded sinners in hell get referred to as "innocents" multiple times when it comes to mentioning how angels indiscriminately genocide them or whatever the fuck.
and then angels like adam are portrayed as narcissistic, full of bloodlust and swearing out the ass worse than whatever sinner or demon there might be down in earth. even the seraphim in charge are portrayed as corrupt cause they're allowing the exterminations to take place.
there's no real consistency with any of it.
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>>220572676
>America is ruled by the Jews. Jews hate Christianity.
lol sure
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>>220572374
this looks like it's for babies and there's no point in discussing it
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>>220572576
1. It's Monday for me, not everyone has the same timezone 2. The Sabbath is on Saturday

Kill yourself you dumb nigger
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>>220572687
>retarded sinners in hell get referred to as "innocents"
yes, most people in hell would be innocent by human standards of morality. The bible is clear that most people don't go to heaven, and that you need to follow pretty specific rules to do so. Someone who swore, did drugs, and was gay during life would certainly go to hell if they didn't repent, which is essentially what is depicted in the show
the show also changes the creation myth by saying that adam didn't eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. That's why adam acts completely immaturely and immorally, because he has no understanding of morality and lives as a selfish animal.
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>>220572701
Evangelicals are more judeo than Christians.
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>>220572739
Still, every post you make helps the loli and futa posts keep existing on /b/. Obviously this is a sin
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>>220572374
>taking Charlie’s clearly skewed exposition as gospel truth, no pun intended
You might be retarded anon.
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>>220572739
>because he has no understanding of morality and lives as a selfish animal
that implies God made him as such to begin with, which would be a lie since they were made to be good, then only began to sin and desire doing what isn't good only after consuming the fruit.

so again, she doesn't understand what she's writing and her trying to subvert the whole thing makes it even more retarded.

Adam can't end up like that since he had no actual desire or concept of committing evil or sin. if in her version he ends up like that cause he didn't eat the fruit, then it would make it so that God himself, the ultimate creator would be worse than Satan in the show since Adam acts like that by default without even being in a fallen state, meaning that God's image reflected in him is a filthy one and that God in the show is just as bad as any other sinner, thus further solidifying her retarded idea that whether you go to heaven or hell is completely arbitrary cause there is no actual perfect of objective standard to obtain since not even God Himself is the standard nor can He set it nor show or prove what is actually the "right thing" to do.
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>Sinners and demons have LITERALLY no way of harming angels or even going to heaven uninvited
>Despite this heaven decides it needs to go kill sinners every year for population control???
>Also during this killing they FUCKING LEAVE ANGELIC WEAPONS THAT ARE CAPABLE OF HURTING ANGELS EVERYWHERE LIKE THEY'RE FUCKING CANDY
There could have been a good way to write this, but it's just a matter of making characters fucking morons and plot convenience. Like there's actually no reason angels would leave their weapons in hell that makes any kind of sense
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>>220572858
don't people who "die" in hell just get reincarnated in their bodies eventually?
like, okay, maybe their souls float around aimlessly for a while as they wait for the body to regenerated, but they'd just be back in to time since hell is forever and all that.
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>>220572848
the problem is that the bible is incoherent. It says that adam and eve ate the fruit of knowledge of good and evil, and so they became aware of their nakedness and hid their genitals. If nakedness is evil, then god made them evil by nature. If nakedness is not evil, then why would they hide themselves after enlightenment? Or in a more general sense, the animal kingdom is full of rape and murder. Humans know that rape and murder is bad, but in the garden of eden adam and eve would not have known this. Why would god create a natural world full of rape and murder, and then complain when adam and eve learned that rape and murder is evil?
any work based on christianity will have contradictions, because christianity is contradictory.
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>>220572707
>Saturday sabbath
Shalom rabbi
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>>220572928
Saturday is the Sabbath in Christianity you uneducated nigger, Sunday is the Lord's Day, two entirely different things, kill yourself
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>>220572374
Blame Milton, he wrote the original Genesis fanfic.
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>>220572922
There is absolutely nothing contradictory about Christianity and the only reason you think so is because you yourself don't actually want to understand it nor do you directly seek God to help you make sense of it in the first place.
You can "study" it all you want as if it's homework you got to do for school and do whatever kind of research you want on it but without any actual faith, you aren't actually going to understand it in any tangible way whatsoever since their your eyes nor your heart have opened up to the truth.
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>>220573073
>There is absolutely nothing contradictory about Christianity
you should try reading the bible before having these discussions
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>>220573090
You should repent and ask God to help open your eyes to your own foolishness.
Any "contradiction" you claim find is your own made up one based on the fact you do not actually understand what anything of what's being said means, nor do you bother putting it in context.
If your entire point of reading the Bible is to just "debunk" it and look for contradictions where there is none, then you will never understand since your intentions are nothing but bad to begin with. You believe yourself to be smart and educated on the matter when in truth you're nothing but a blind fool.
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>>220572922
>rape and murder was created by God and existed before Adam and Eve first ever sinned and brought such concepts into existence over generations
Are you actually fucking retarded?
You literally create a contradiction in your head to begin with then immediately assign it to Christianity and say it doesn't make sense, even though it was your own thing you came up with. Your very first assumption is that God somehow created rape and murder even though it's humans who first put the concept into existence by doing it as result of sin.

Your entire post is pretty much just a more verbose way of going "If God Good / Real , then why bad thing happen??"

It's because you're a retarded fucking sinner like every single person alive out there and at every opportunity that you get you act out on your sinful desire to do things you shouldn't which ultimately have repercussions not only onto yourself, but onto others as well.

Sin is an outcome of Evil that you choose to engage with on the daily as you believe you "know better" how to handle things than God does, which leads to further debauchery and evil that ripples onto the whole wiled world and affects others in ways you can't even conceive of.

God has absolutely nothing to do with any of this since He did not create anything bad to begin with. Man brought all this suffering into the world by himself alone and now we, and you included continue to propagate it. This is the world you have chosen for yourself to have and live in by your own actions, and this is the world you will get to die in. You could try to make a difference, and ultimately seek God out so that He may save you from the fate you have brought upon yourself by continuing to keep yourself separated from Him, but you would rather do neither and just complain like a little bitch while waiting and hoping someone else will do something to "fix" everything in your stead.
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>>220572922
your bible literacy is lacking heavily. sad to see.
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>>220573325
>Your very first assumption is that God somehow created rape and murder even though it's humans who first put the concept into existence by doing it as result of sin.
so animals learnt rape and murder from humans?
I don't remember that part of the bible
>>220573325
>God has absolutely nothing to do with any of this since He did not create anything bad to begin with. Man brought all this suffering into the world by himself alone and now we, and you included continue to propagate it.
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things"
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>>220573363
>"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things"
KJV translates that word as "evil" there but every other translation out there actually uses words that are close to the actual original Greek writing of it with is "disaster" or "calamity".

It doesn't refer to moral wickedness nor that God creates it in anyway. It refers to the adversities, judgments, or hardships God brings upon a nation (or allows them to go through) in response to disobedience.

If your dad told you not to go out smoking pot cause it's illegal and your risk the cops arresting you, but you tell him to fuck off and that you "know better" and that "it won't happen to you", he can either beat your ass, ground you and force you to do what he said and not go out, or let you do whatever the fuck you you actually wanted, so that when you ultimately get fucked and police arrests you and puts you in prison, you have no one here to blame but yourself and you will hopefully come to realize you were a retard that should have listened to your dad since he was right about things all along.
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>>220572374
>Why is this such a common thing for a lot of these shows?
Because Jews are literally just satanists.
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>>220573500
Disaster and darkness are euphemisms for evil.
did my dad create pot and create cops?
if so, then yeah the whole scenario is his fault
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>>220572676
>America is ruled by the Jews
so is France
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>>220573522
>>220573522
>Disaster and darkness are euphemisms for evil.
No they're not. You don't even know what an euphemism is. The fact that God allows you to do what you want, even when it's retarded and goes against what He wants for you, which results in your disaster at your own hands is not the same thing as literal moral wickedness or "evil".

Disaster or calamity are destructive events, which carry consequences, but ultimately lack any malicious intent typically required to be classified as "evil". The fact you are allowed to find out by your own self that what you did is retarded and that you will now suffer for it a a consequence of your own retarded action isn't evil.

You have no actual sense of responsibility and are just looking to throw a hissy fit and try to blame literally anyone else but your own self, ergo "God bad and He the reason why everything suck." Grow the fuck up.
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>>220573620
if my dad created pot and created cops, the scenario is still his fault
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>>220573363
why be such a disingenuous faggot?
sin is a spiritual cancer that spreads to everything that is alive and breathing.
it will affect and manifest itself in all that is living one way or another when it comes to whatever grouping you want to give it.
humans rape, animals rape.
humans kill, animals kill.
humans can be incestuous, animals can be incestuous.
it's the same evil force playing in both, yet it is humans specifically who gave full birth to it in the first place since they were the ones that introduced sin into the world to begin with.
if not for them, then animals wouldn't rape since the nature of sin wouldn't have expanded like a cancer onto them as well and caused whatever urges that drives men to do said things.
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>>220573664
>can't refute anything anymore so he just resorts to looping back around to "if God real, then why bad thing happen" and "if God real, then it's His fault I'm like this, not mine"
I'll just cut this sort at this point and accept your concession. You do not know what you are talking about nor do you understand or even care to. You run from any form of responsibility and deeply wish for it to be anyone else's fault but your own for why your life is the way that it is.

May God bless you enough so that you may one day come to the truth and realize everything that you stand for and believe in is a lie, even if it takes Him having to humble you down to the point that you are broken and having nothing else left to do but rely on Him as a last ditch effort to save you from dying. Though hopefully it won't have to end up having to be that severe and your heart may soften enough without such drastic measures.

Ultimately, He knows best how this should play out for you, so I will pray the work He does to reach you will bear fruit in time, whether sooner or later.
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>>220573896
that's entirely your scenario
you can't handle the fact that your ideology is incoherent so you hide behind sarcastic politeness
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>>220572374
it's more like "tumblr sexymen raping each other"
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I don't think her knowing what is and isn't Bible canon is what makes this show fucking stupid.
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>>220572701
>Look at this propaganda as proof

>>220572739
>human standards of morality
That varies so widely it's impossible to say there is a set standard.

>>220573522
>It's another episode of the anti-Christian doesn't understand words
So many re-runs on /tv/ these days
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>>220572374
Christianity isn't real and any piece of media that mocks your retarded jewish cult is alright with me
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>>220573770
hey retard, animals have been killing for a billion years now, humans only arrived on the scene in the last few hundred thousand
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>>220572374
If Jesus or god don’t exist in the show then it’s safe to assume this isn’t a christcuck take on Hell Because it wouldn’t exist
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>>220574239
yeah faggot, now kill yourself to escape this world, so you may finally end your suffering in this secular world
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btw notice all the people obsessed with this ugly shitshow have mental illnesses, gooning addictions, and general really creepy behaviors. Almost as if the show is not and the cartoons are just channels for spiritual warfare.
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>>220574730
who cares, let them get what they deserve, It's not the job of Christians to save people, it's the spirit.
If the spirit is dead in them then there is no saving, and you are fighting over rotten fishes.
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Now yall muhfuggas shut you black asses up and listen to dah WURD YA HURR? Having sex is EVIL ESE! YA FEEL ME? THE ALMIGHTY GAWD THE LAWD and all them muhfuggin saints told me to uhhhh chemically castrate mahself so mah penis don’t work. Having sex is like pornography and DAS BAD YOU GO TO HELL. It’s like how GAWD told one of them muhfuggas to start circumcising dey chillren this the next step making sure yo penis stop workin
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>>220572374
Or you could watch the show before posting retardation.
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>>220574730
It’s like the show was made for older teens that are just getting in college who are all of those things
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>>220572374
needs more loona
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>>220572374
This shit is just a tryhard westoid version of Panty & Stocking but instead of it being silly lighthearted fun it just assaults you with millenial edgelordism and wokeoid language.
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>>220574797
Panty and Stocking was just a tryhard Japoid attempt at western humor after the team watched Drawn Together
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hazbin hotel is dinergoth kino

No shade
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>>220574820
Yes, but it is just that, loud funny nonsense that is offensive for the sake of being offensive, it doesn't try to make millenial points about "akshually heaven bad and hell good"
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>>220574873
Drawn Together has too many bits to count saying Christianity is bad. The princess character who’s a trad conservative Christian i guess, is just evil and racist
>uhhh that’s different
The creators are literally from Israel.
>inb4
Preemptive SHALOM!
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>>220574915
Not Drawn Together, Panty & Stocking.
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>>220574807
is that you how you are trying to fit in? Go back to witch chan.
Also maybe don't be a coward and reply to people rather than green posting on your own, you cunt
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>>220574771
>all teens are ugly and mentally ill
maybe in your ugly generation and in your ugly country yeah
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>>220574797
your vocabulary is disguting
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>>220572374
>Why is this such a common thing for a lot of these shows?
the official version is gay and riddled with contradictions and bullshit and any iteration on it is immediately more fun and palatable.
it's like how you're not posting the original Matt Furie Pepe who is a chill stoner, but prefer the weird, evil, scatological, racist one instead.
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>>220575773
Nta but if he were trying to fit in he’d larp as a Christcuck
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>>220575784
You should learn to read before flying off the handle like that, Juan. He only said
>mental illnesses, gooning addictions, and general really creepy behaviors
The last two describe who the show is for(college aged kids) I dunno about mental illnesses because I’m nit a doctor and no one else is ITT
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>>220572374
libshit is all like that
so much creative!
all they do is taking something a normal person created and make a contrarian version, possibly blackwashed genderflipped and gay

bunch of subnormals
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>>220575891
all you do is bitch about cartoons you don't even watch nigga
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Imagine being an adult and caring about cartoons enough to larp as a Christcuck to feel superior to a cartoon
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>>220572374
It's clear the writer lost interest and ideas the second the show came out. I kinda liked the start: it's fun to see imagination. Then EVERYTHING became gay. It's funny the writer seems to be extremely homophobic as all gays are disgusting all holes dp'd at the same time horny sinners.
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>>220572374
Why can't you fuckers just stay on /co/?
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>>220575898
All you is fap at lame gay and tranny woke slop
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>>220572374
You guys are even gayer than leftoids bitching about the Boondocks being racist.
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>>220576235
>starts ranting about jerking off to tranny porn for no reason
Why are chuddies like this
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>>220576315
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>>>/co/
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>>220576235
you're gay if you WOULDN'T fap to Charlie
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>>220574730
>jerking off...IS LE BAD
back to sharty brownoid
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>>220572922
It's a collection of bronze age fairy tales, don't expect logical consistency of any kind.
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>>220572374
Chalcedonianism is bad fan fiction of true Christianity.
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Imagine going on a whole religious LARP to seethe about a a passion projects of some dumb fat Tumblr bitch. Next you will be complaining about Homestuck from the lens of Thomas Aquinas or something.
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Christ is King!
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>>220577186
Homestuck is Mormon, actually, completely unironically.
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>>220578575
>>220578587
>self bumping this gay thread from page 10
you should be ashamed
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>>220572676
>”As a Frenchman…”
>Bitching about Jews

Tell me that you’re a muslim without telling me that you’re a muslim.
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>>220572676
Alhamdullilah. Abdul, you will NEVER be French no matter how much you try to rape your way into citizenship.
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fucking christfags GO HOME



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