sorry, dont watch wokeslop

>>220577357
you don't watch movies at all, that would require more attention span than you have

it was a decent flick. Had a few "why would they do this" moments but nothing that took me out in the moment.

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I see a good bit of fanart from japanese accounts on twitter which tells me its good

Nearly 3 hours of Ryan Gosling trying and failing to be funny. Worst movie I’ve seen in years.

>>220577301
It was wholesome. It was feel good. We needed something like this. Some hope.
Superman failed to deliver, the Goose didn't.

>>220578461
Bot

>>220578481
How is he a bot. I also liked it. Nice flick, comfy and feel good. I had very low expectations because I trusted some anons here who said it was modern woke slop, but it was surprisingly good.

>>220577301
It's a breath of fresh air in the current kino landscape, likeable characters, just the right amount of drama, feels like you're going on an adventure. Overall it shouldn't deserve its hype but given the current context I see why it did.
>>220578503
That kind of thread always attacts the resident schizos, ignore them, don't engage with them.

>>220578554
>just the right amount of drama
that was one of my issues with it. the pacing felt off in terms of drama. the tone is pretty upbeat throughout, then theres one extremely dramatic sequence, then thats it. i think having one higher-stakes moment earlier on would have helped sell both the danger of the mission and the bond between grace and rocky. their friendship was the best part of the movie but we kind of montaged through a lot of it (them learning to communicate is basically boiled down to goose telling his computer, "jarvis, learn eridian", and we get like one fun scene of them in the simulator room with rocky learning about earth), to an extent that felt almost like it was bordering on telling, not showing. i buy them as friends because their interactions are well written and acted, but we kind of speedran getting to that point. a tighter edit of the first half hour, before he meets rocky, in exchange for another 15 minutes of actually seeing them bonding, and with some minor spaceship problem that goose helps rocky with, or vice versa, would have gone a long way to fix my issues with the movies pacing

It could have been improved if it spent more time with and developed the other 2 crew members who died, so that we cared about them some amount and it has more impact. Maybe Rocky could have also told us about some of his lost crewmates and his relationships with them.
Imo these high stakes space movies where they beat the odds and save us in the end work better if there's also some sense of real loss/sacrifice earlier, rather than a sense of things working out a bit too perfectly and everyone getting a happy ending. This was good but I'd still rank Interstellar and Sunshine above it

>>220578684
>Imo these high stakes space movies where they beat the odds and save us in the end work better if there's also some sense of real loss/sacrifice earlier, rather than a sense of things working out a bit too perfectly and everyone getting a happy ending.
agreed. for the premise of the movie being
>an untrained schoolteacher is the sole surviving crew member on a largely untested ship on a mission to a completely unknown solar system to accomplish a task he has no idea how hell even do, with the fate of all of humanity on the line
it feels kind of off tonally how well everything goes. i get its a buddy movie at its core but theres so little adversity the stakes feel kind of abstracted. i guess the martian is an obvious comparison and for its flaws, you do feel the sense that mars is constantly trying to kill watney. his positive progress is whats montaged through and whenever we stop for more protracted scenes, its when something goes wrong. hail mary is almost the other way around

>>220578684
yep, I really liked the other two crew members, they were fun. And it was never explained what killed them, could've been another plot twist, I suppose.

>>220578684
to be fair, the movie omits a fuckload of shit like how his mates died or how he suddenly knows how to do space shit

>>220578819
>And it was never explained what killed them
Coma-inducing stuff was extremely experimental.

>>220578503
>>220578554
Psychos

>>220577301
Book was better because I went in not knowing spoilers due to official movie trailers showing Rocky.

>>220577301
The dialog quite a few times was very cringe but outside of that I enjoyed it.

>>220577613
>Shitty mupped reddit show requires attention!

>>220578461
>>220578503
>>220578554
Movies aren't your therapy session.
It' true for woketards, it's true for you

>>220579448
touch grass
I would tell you to touch pussy but we both know it's not really an option

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>>220579538
>challenge: try to not being exposed as redditor
failed
>challenge: try to make an actual argument
failed
>challenge: try to not make it all about holes
failed

>>220579649
very sad post

>>220577301
With so much slop being produced by Hollywood an above average movie now looks like a masterpiece.

>>220577301
Nothing hyped up in pop culture is ever worth the hype. The average IQ is 100, people get excited for garbage.

>>220578424
The "humor" was egregious, yes. Normally Lord and Miller can make jokes land, but something just missed the mark every time.

>>220578503
>I trusted some anons here who said it was modern woke slop
Never mind the bollocks

>>220579014
same, going in blind on the book because I'd heard it was good was kino.
when he met rocky I initially thought it was a cheap plot point bout how it was all gonna be explained away with aliens.
but then the sheer levels of autism in explaining how rocky and everything worked changed my mind.

>>220579810
>Normally Lord and Miller can make jokes land
they didnt do the script, they were busy with spiderslop. they only directed, the writing was the same guy who wrote the martian

>>220579791
>The average IQ is 100
And will always be

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>>220578684
This
Needed more of this milk goddess

>>220579898
Even unexplained super-materials like Xenonite felt believable because Xenonite isn’t really all that different from “super” materials known to Humanity like plastics or polymers.

>>220579943
>the writing was the same guy who wrote the martian
unreadable

>>220580512
>t. esl

>>220577301
I just watched it yesterday too.
I thought it was good, liked the story, sets and effects, but I thought there were too many jokes.
I know he wanted to make a family movie, but I think the more serious parts of the story is taken too lightly or just not shown enough. Especially when you consider how serious the core of the story actually is. They just brush over it.
There were too many jokes. There's nothing wrong with having jokes, but it was just every other sentence was some sort of joke and it's just too much. There were a couple of good visual gags too with the security off the the side also eating skittles and stuff like that, but it was just constantly.

I thought it was really good, but it would have been great if the serious/humor balance was better.

>>220578424
I don't understand why every sci-fi needs to be like this.

>>220580442
The way the astrophage works is really not believable, being able to store that much energy in a way that's stable (until someone experiments on it). Did evolution figure out nuclear physics, or something way beyond it like manipulating antimatter, on its own?
But... it's needed for any of this premise or plot to work

Guess there could be a sequel where it turns out astrophage is a weapon engineered by some other super advanced aliens out there, but this would turn it into more of a generic sci-fi universe with good ayys and bad ones. Would go against the spirit of this first one

>>220580532
t. illiterate

>>220578503
Some anons are too extreme but they serve as a mining canary which is good

>>220577301
name a better movie from the last five years

>>220581267
>SW prequels are good because SW sequels are worse
we have already heard that cope, shill

if tau ceti was ~11 light years from earth and it took him ~11 years to get there how the fuck was his return journey ~4 years? he was there like a month or something theres no way it moved that much due to orbits or something

>>220581376
time dilation due to traveling at a relativistic velocity.

>>220581376
11 years pass on earth
he experiences only 4 years
because the closer to lightspeed you're going the less time you experience
The universe has a exploitable bug

>>220581376
It's been explained but who gives a shit? This movie is a pillow for women (and low T men) to cry into.

>>220581376
what the other replies say
also this is why rocky has the surplus fuel to give grace, the eridians never figured out relativity so they brought much more fuel than needed

>>220577301
Was it true it's based on five books series?

>>220581627
its only one book

>>220581524
>>220581535
ah gotchu, im retarded. the way the movie spoke about time was kinda weird so it went over my head i guess. also, its funny how they just gloss over the fact that humanity build a light speed ship

>>220581768
that first meeting on the ship is mostly grace going "you can't just make an interstellar ship" and stratt going "yeah we can nerd shut up"

>>220581768
>they just gloss over the fact that humanity build a light speed ship
Not really. Its set up when he puts them under the IR light, and then a few scenes are dedicated to them producing more for fuel, and that they've turned it into an engine.

>>220581791
i mean sure but thats an insane leap in technology to be covered in a few scenes. given that spaceflight technology otherwise seems not that much further ahead than ours (we see a rocket on the pad in the flashback scene where it explodes)

really im nitpicking because its not of consequence to the story the movie is trying to tell, i just have autism for this sort of thing and would personally liked to have had more of that

what i will say is i cant fathom why the fuck theyd ever build a centrifuge the way they did

>>220577301
I was surprised how unbogged Ryan looked in this. Is it true that plastic surgery looks better over time? Did he get stung by several bees for a while? Did they put his face through a filter for this?

>>220577301
pretty much the only movie worth seeing in theaters for a good while though be it

>>220577301
Deliberately offensive to one of Catholics most scared prayers playing on an aged sectarian insult.. It's hard to even understand how stupid and full of cocaine and unaware the people who made this are.

>>220581768
I was initially confused by it too. Maybe the ship should have said.
>journey will take ____ time for you and ____ longer amount of time for Earth
The movie mentioned relativity at least once but I don't recall if it touched on time dilation specifically. Which it should, for the non-scientifically oriented

>>220581843
>we see a rocket on the pad in the flashback scene where it explodes
Still have to launch shit into orbit.
But yeah, it was a little bit of a too-neat caveat to make the movie happen. I can only imagine in the book it is more fleshed out.

>>220581922
You're genuinely a fucking moron.
Its also an idiomatic expression for a very long deep desperate play in football that requires precision timing at a snap and no small amount of luck to pull it off... You know, sort of like the longshot desperation mission in the movie.

>>220577301
I thought it was ok. But it was a bit too disney family for me. Basically i would compare it to the old predator movies compared to the latest one with that pet monkey and quirk chungus android as predators companion

>>220577301
This movie is proof Ryan Gosling can only make friends with people who are at least 98% silicates.

>>220581922
C’mon man, there’s insults and then there’s insults. Naming your last-ditch effort to save the world a “Hail Mary” is a far, far cry from Seth Rogan barging into a Midnight Mass to insult the crowd in a Star of David sweater before vomiting on the floor.

>>220581267
>F1
That was easy

For a project that was considered a "Hail Mary", everything seems to go way smoother than originally planned.

>>220582280
2/3 people died and it only succeeded because god personally put a rock alien there to help out

>>220582280
The original plan was,
>Put three astronauts on a craft that has never been flown and send it on an 11 year mission farther than anything has been before on the off-chance an anomalous star had some way to fix the problem????
Everything worked out because Gosling met a singing rock spider, but Humanity didn’t expect to find a natural predator to the Astrophage around Tau Ceti.

>>220577301
The Martian 2: Arrival

>>220577623
The mission didn’t make sense and it depends whether you can buy it as the conceit of the movie or not

1. They know the astrophage can be killed in the lab, so it seems pretty obvious to just work out a way of killing it instead of inventing interstellar travel. And the result of the mission to Tau Ceti is literally just finding a life form that kills the astrophage

2. If they wanted to see why Tau Ceti was different we could already do that with space telescopes, which seems like an obvious thing to do before launching an interstellar mission.

>>220582155
>Ryan Gosling can only make friends with people who are at least 98% silicates.
Have you ever read his Early Life page on Wikipedia? It makes for a wild ride

>>220581967
iirc relativity was a big plot point in the book (rocky's species has no concept of it which is why he has excess fuel to give grace) but not mentioned much if at all in the film. the film kind of took the opposite approach to the martian in terms of adapting weirs writing and forewent most of the science to focus on the buddy movie story

>>220582314
>>220582427
the tone of the movie doesnt really reflect that though. its consistently very upbeat which is kind of dissonant with whats actually happening

>>220582517
>2
they'd see nothing of value to answer the question
>1
I think part of the problem is astrophage is magic bullshit so killing it at scale is hard. It never goes above 100c because its made of water or some gay shit, so you can't just nuke them. You'd have to figure out a way to at scale poke the microscopic things swarming your sun with needles

>>220582517
>need to kill the astrophage
>astrophage breeds on venus
how many nuclear bombs would it take to render venus uninhabitable for the astrophage? even if that wouldnt work i have a hard time being convinced the american government wouldnt try it anyway

>>220582562
>its consistently very upbeat
Did we watch the same movie? It starts with the crew being dead, then Rocky’s crew is dead, every flashback to Earth has an underlying tension to it, and then later they fake out both our main characters dying

>>220580572
Exactly. Felt like an episode of the office. They should've had cutscenes back on earth of things going to shit while he was having a bromance in space. Given a sense of urgency.

>>220582600
the flashbacks to earth are somewhat tense, and the sequence where goose and rocky both "die" is dramatic, but everything outside of those small chunks of the runtime is very goofy/comedic vibes

even goose finding his dead crewmates is written more as part of the "wacky amnesiac trying to accustom himself to the spaceship" sequence than any sort of solemn moment about the two randos we knew nothing about. iirc hes cracking jokes as he gives them a funeral

>>220582517
It's one thing to kill astrophage, it's another to have a way of killing it which can survive and do the job on Venus and on the fucking Sun, and replicate and populate those vast surfaces on its own

>>220582600
>>220582562
The movie is very hopeful, but as you both mention there’s still points of disaster/tension. I think describing the movie as “hopeful” is better because the movie frames Grace’s reveal that he was a coward as the second biggest heart-tug of the movie, comparable in importance to Rocky effectively bathing himself in acid to drag Grace to safety.

>>220582590
>they'd see nothing of value to answer the question
>HELLO I AM A RETARD AND DONT FOLLOW SCIENCE AT ALL
Good to know.
>I think part of the problem is astrophage is magic bullshit so killing it at scale is hard.
No basis for saying this, but I’ll explain myself in my next reply:
>>220582593
>durrrrrr the only way I can think to kill something is bombs!!!!!
Actual ape IQ.
We could bio engineer something to kill them, which would skip steps in the final solution of the movie
But we could also poison them
Or my personal favorite: since it popped in the lab, you know the cell membrane is penetrable. They’re also very helpfully lined up in a trail between Venus and the Sun. So you go out into space with a giant shrapnel canon and eviscerate the fuckers. All the debris burns up in the sun, no muss no fuss.
>>220582673
See above
Also as far as we can tell the Tau Ceti life form doesnt need to withstand the sun, it’s eating the astrophage in the planet it’s trying to breed on and keeping the population in equilibrium so you have completely invented an unnecessary hurdle by not properly watching the movie

>>220582680
>there’s still points of disaster/tension
i think for me the issue is how out of place the tense sequence feels in the context of the rest of the movie. up until that point (despite the whole mission being dangerous and very high stakes) its lighthearted with grace and rocky bro-ing out, and then all of a sudden theyre both dying, and then 10 minutes later theyre bro-ing out again. i actually think the movie would be better off if it just fully embraced its lighter tone and dialed the fishing sequence back a bit; itd feel more cohesive

>>220582706
Your favorite movie is pacific rim because the problem is solved via making a big weapon

>>220582706
>>durrrrrr the only way I can think to kill something is bombs!!!!!
>Actual ape IQ.
nta but if you cant tell that post was sarcastic i think youre a serious contender for most autistic anon on here, which is saying something

>>220582730
If you don’t want the solution to your movie to be a big weapon, don’t create a problem that can be solved by a shrapnel canon
In your book how is the Tau Ceti life form not a bioweapon anyway?

>>220582706
>>durrrrrr the only way I can think to kill something is bombs!!!!!
>says this
>his suggesstion is a flak cannon
GorillaIQ

>>220582739
>say something stupid
>get told youre stupid
>erm akshually I didn’t mean it so youre the stupid one now!
Nice try

>>220582766
>doesnt understand what nta means
i think you should go back

>>220582760
Literally the most efficient way to burst trillions of microbes when we know that they can be popped and they have formed an orderly line to help your shot

>>220582780
I understand what it means, why the fuck do you think I’d believe you?
>no you don’t get it I’m just very heavily emotionally invested in supporting strangers online in their arguments

>>220577301
this thing is still on theatres in my country, wtf

>>220582706
If the solution doesn't need to withstand the conditions on a star, it only needs to kill astrophage on the Venus-like breeding planet, that would suck and would mean a bunch of nearby stars are still doomed.
Since it was killing every star in our local group except its home system, and it's *not* thought that every single star has a Venus-like planet with a dense CO2-rich atmosphere. Astrophage is able to spread without one.

>>220583009
>that would suck and would mean a bunch of nearby stars are still doomed.
Yes that is literally what happens in the book and movie. Infected stars are doomed except Tau Ceti, Earth, and Rocky’s planet
>it's *not* thought that every single star has a Venus-like planet with a dense CO2-rich atmosphere.
This is overlooked

The hype is probably unearned, but I enjoyed it. It was a nice, positive flick in a sea of overwhelmingly sarcastic, bitter, dark, self-aware, hateful, spiteful bullshit.
I think if I had one complaint that a lot of people won't agree with: I think Rocky's computer-voice should have been more robotic and static instead of emotive. I think the disparity between his physical behavior and that would have been more endearing.
I guess with AI voices and shit though, its all pretty emotive now too, so I'm basically wrong as fuck but whatever.

>>220583040
Weird. Given how implausible the physics of the astrophage and its energy storage is, it shouldn't be much of a leap for Taumoeba to also survive on the sun. It would be reasonable to think it's easier to survive on the sun for a while, than to eat and neutralize a few astrophage

>>220583093
>I think if I had one complaint that a lot of people won't agree with: I think Rocky's computer-voice should have been more robotic and static instead of emotive
i thought this too. there was a definite leap where the robot voice starts conveying a lot of tone, which i guess makes sense for that the movies trying to do, but seemed like a stretch

>>220583131
Look man, if the taumoeba survived in space there wouldn’t be any need for them to have flown through the atmosphere of Adrian to collect it.
I don’t know how you’ve managed to get confused about this

>>220583175
>>220583093
What bothered me was that I flat out don’t believe they would have been able to communicate in the way they did.
I’m fine with the alien race inexplicably being as close to human in perspective as possible, right? That’s the baseline to be able to tell a story like this and have the alien be relatable. They have to have concepts of beauty and affection and selflessness, happiness, sadness, all that shit. Fine.
But the first time it made me flinch was when Rocky came aboard and said Grace’s ship was “dirty”. Like why the fuck would that be a priority word to translate? They’re scientists, so “contaminated” maybe. But you’ve only got however many months to solve this shit and go home and one of the words you and the ayy NEEDED to translate was “dirty”? I just don’t see it. If feels like the movie skipped a lot of the problems with translating a language for the first time ever

What ruined the movie for me is the way it's edited. Every action scene starts, then before the motion / sequence / routine ends, it flashes into another portion of a larger whole. Like, imagine you're watching a Michael Mann movie like Thief or Heat and instead of watching one big quality sequence of breaking into a vault, you get them preparing fuses, then jump cut into gunfire, then they get out of the car and burn it. That's how this movie presents every fucking action scene, like someone is holding a remote and fucking the experience up for you.

>>220583941
the sequence with rocky saving grace was fucking horribly shot, with the intermittent flashes of red light. im not even epileptic (i think) but that shit was horrendous to watch

>>220583934
the communication stuff is so interesting but got glossed over so quickly. i think there was part of me that just wanted this movie to be "arrival but theyre bros"

If they can breed astrophage and use it as fuel, and Ryan can and does breed Taumoeba. Why didn't he just breed more astophage?

I mean, sure you could handwave it as being "It'd take too long" or "It wouldn't be able to scale", but they show him doing it using shit he buys from Home Depot, and establish he has enough rations for years.

>>220584100
We're entering the era of lo-fi filters, vertical cinematography and screenshot/aftereffects montages interspersed with movie footage. It's mainly because of how online videos work. Nobody is paying for subtle montage, you have to stitch together a gazillion filters and split the screen at least thrice.

basically if you want to edit something for money you better learn how shapes work in aftereffects, and even then it's mostly ai prompts now anyway

kristen stewart is a great example of this new kind of hack director with her movie being all filters

>>220584188
>kristen stewart is a great example of this new kind of hack director with her movie being all filters
kstew does directing now?

>>220584203
some kind of money laundering op i guess
what i'm talking about is that people can't present their movies / cuts as-is, they have to resort to extreme overproduction because they're not confident in their product

it was the greatest movie ever made

>>220582198
>>220581922
anon "hail mary" is a long-shot handegg pass.