>We need to quickly make this fake statue quickly, we should carefully carve out a huge, detailed head and legs.

Why does this upset autistic people so much?

>>220578181
>b-but chudda it's a fanfic poem it's not supposed to be realistic

not this shit again

>>220578229
How new are you guys? Nolan's release amasses midwit gatherings as far as the eye can see. It doesn't matter the subject.

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>>220578144
>It has been noted that the terms used to put men in the horse are those used by ancient Greek authors to describe the embarkation of men on a ship and that there are analogies between the building of ships by Paris at the beginning of the Trojan saga and the building of the horse at the end; ships are called "sea-horses" once in the Odyssey. Into the 2010s, this view gained support from naval archaeology; ancient text and images show that a Phoenician merchant ship type decorated with a horse head, called hippos ('horse') by Greeks, became very diffuse in the Levant area around the beginning of the 1st millennium BC and was used to trade precious metals and sometimes to pay tribute after the end of a war.
It was a boat.

WERE

>>220578250
And then they dragged the boat into the city?
Even if they did, why would greeks assume they'd do that in the first place?

YOU

THERE

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>>220578250
I WANNA SEE THE BOAT MOVIE

>>220578207
>IT SHOULD LOOK BAD, CHUD!!!!
why apologists have no standards?

>>220579395
It looks good?

>>220579475
It clearly doesn't

>>220578250
>yeah so according to this interpretation the use of a comma next to phallic looking letters indicated a literal interpretation of the proposition two sentences below in certain circles in Alidopadopoulous
Holy shit historyfags are the biggest faggots on the planet. Get a life and start saying shit that matters you fucking retards.

>>220579519
Yep. It has to look good and make sense.
And it doesn't

>>220578250
why would they bring in a boat through their city gates instead of a harbor?

>>220578227
Fun fact, the trojan horse isn't in the illiad, and is only mentioned in passing in the odyssey.
The illiad ends with the funeral of hector since its a story about the wrath of achilles and not the war itself.

>>220578250
How did the soldiers hide in a boat? It seems much more likely for their opposition to not check the inside of a massive ornamental statue than the inside of a large boat.

>>220578227
Oh well if it's fantasy then everyone should just drive around in cars then

>>220580043
That's not how Fantasy works retard, unless you unironically believe that Gandalf should be driving a Ferrari to Mordor because it's fantasy.

>>220578144
The Trojan horse is only mentioned briefly in the Odyssey and doesn't appear in the Iliad. It's described more in the Aeneid (Roman) where they got direct help from Minerva (Athena) and it was built by the master craftsman Epeius and it's suppose to look like a flawless offering the Trojans would accept. The Troy version is actually less in line with the myth but it looks more realistic and what it might look like if people back then built it.

>>220580060
That's my fucking point you cunt

>>220579492
Try explaining why

>>220580076
Except your point is bullshit. The story of the Trojan Horse involves the Trojans thinking that the Greeks brought them a gift of reconciliation in the form of a giant wooden horse statue. Making the horse statue that is supposed to be something the Trojans would actually want to bring into and display in their city look well-built and nice is at least relatively logical. If it looked like a rickety piece of shit, why would they want to keep it?

I don't even think the OP Nolan horse looks particularly good. It doesn't even look like it's made of wood, it looks like metal or some nebulous CGI or foam prop instead of a wooden horse - but the idea that the Trojan horse looked like a well-made and detailed statue isn't even a hundredth as stupid or fantastical as the notion that they should have cars. It fits perfectly fine in the realm of greek fantasy.

>>220578144
I hope Mia Goth looks cute in this. :)

>>220578181
You should see the size of that cock, took me 12 hours to get the flare right, and those veins, SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH, i wouldn't let my girl alone with it if you know what im saying!

>>220580063
>Aeneid (Roman)
Fanfic, not canon.

>>220578181
>thank god we brought buckets of varnish with us
>make sure you sand all the edges

>>220578144
I wouldn't want that pile of garbage on the bottom in my city

>>220578207
>why are people having an opinion and expressing an opinion if it's bad they should only be allowed to praise movies gosh
why are you such a fag?

>>220580391
yes but the roman fanfic writers most likely had access to the complete epic cycle instead of the fragments we're left with so it's reasonable to assume it followed the source material relatively closely + Virgil wasn't a complete fucking hack unlike Ovid

>>220580343
The faggot has spoken.

>>220578181
>quickly
who said this? they were fighting for 10 years, why would they need to make the horse quickly?

>>220580454
Because the reason they claim it’s bad is retarded. The myth doesn’t say “the Trojan Horse was some rushed, half-assed thing slapped together in a night that looked like crap.” It just says it was built of wood from ships. There’s no reason to think a Greek myth wouldn’t feature a grand, epic horse rather than a gay-looking piece of crap. It’s literally anti-mythic and historically deconstructive crap.

>>220579846
It's in the Aeneid

>>220578144
why is nolan's horse next to a highway overpass

>>220580458
>most likely had access to the complete epic cycle instead of the fragments
It's also why the Aeneid is good up until book 4.

>>220580249
Looks completely out of place sculpture instead of something that can be reasonably build on the shore as an offer to the gods before running away

>>220580505
you're right. is being on its hind legs mythological or not?

>>220580548
Shrinking a legendary object into something mundane for the sake of realism works against the mythic power of the image. Unless your making some historically revisionist take which is ironically secular anti-religion garbage
>>220580562
Why would it matter? All these repsonses are so nitpicking and autistic. Like it doesn't really change anything.

>>220578207
Why does having standards upset trannies and non-whites so much?

>>220580343
They drag that shit into the city because that would taint the offering, making greeks' voyage extremely unsafe.
The left behind an agitator to make sure that the Trojans got this idea in their skull

>>220580604
>having standards
The “standards” are just endless nitpicking in search of something to complain about. I haven't heard any real arguments. Like how does this horse ruin the scene?

>>220580476
because it happened at the end of the 10 years and the plan required to give the impression of a hasty retreat

>>220580601
>>220580683
>>220580505
you are just defending the shit Nolan made.
If he made the opposite you would defend it

>>220580691
why hasty. the plan was you bested us now here's a horse. you can't really hastily retreat while breaking down ships and making a giant wooden statue

>>220578144
the trojan horse wasn't actually real btw. and it's more believable that a city would let in the odyssey's horse than the one below, since it's an ugly chunk of wood. there are 2 interpretations to the myth, one that it's made out of leftover ships, and another that it's genuinely a gift from athena. nolan went with the 2nd option

>>220580683
It looks retarded.
I don't need to explain why it looks retarded, since aestheticism is self evident. The Greeks understood it and that's why their tales and sense of aestheticism have survived for thousands of years.
Meanwhile, you are a faggot tranny, who doesn't have a sense of aestheticism. You only desire to appreciate things that validate anything adjacent to what justifies your miserable existence, so you are unable to admit it looks gay and retarded.
You are trying to find logic towards why it looks gay and retarded, but at the same time, you demand "real arguments" because you know that you can't find reality in your self imposed subjectivity.
Which is standard behavior from someone who is both gay and retarded.

>>220580745
I believe the horse represents an earthquake that fucked the walls up so the Greeks got in. Poseidon was on the side of the Greeks and he was the god of earthquakes and horses.

>>220580691
The war took ten years, but for some reason they had to build the horse in one night? Nothing in the myths say it couldn't have been days, weeks, or longer. At Alesia, the Romans built the siege works in about a month.
>>220580714
Yeah, because I’m open to seeing other interpretations. Acting like a movie is ruined because it doesn’t perfectly match what you imagined would ruin pretty much every film.

>>220580744
The ship were partially dismantled to form fortifications, and some ship were useless because part of their army were dead.

>>220580524
>Roman fanfiction

>>220580766
>it looks retarded
But that just isn’t true, so I don’t know what I’m supposed to argue against. It looks like a chess-piece horse. You’re just saying something, acting like it’s fact, and then treating anyone who disagrees as wrong. That’s not how logic works.

>>220580524
R*man fanfiction propaganda.

>>220580825
>why does a vertical structure made of metal, which is a highly acoustic material would be dumb to silently transport invaders?
Faggot trannies are incredibly stupid.

>>220580745
It's more believable that you stick to what the book that survived for 3000 years says, instead of making up shit to defend Nolan

>>220578207
they like engineering and other "system" matters, and thank God that they do...?

>>220578144
everything being gray and ugly is just more realistic chud, don't you want to feel smart? Pay to watch the nolan sloppa.

>>220578207
i'm afraid of change

>>220580780
Because that's how it happened, faggot.
It happened at the end of the war and depended on making it look like and hasty retreat, so the Trojan could fall for it while drunken on victory

you aren't open to interpretations. you have no standards

>>220580843
>why does a vertical structure made of metal, which is a highly acoustic material would be dumb to silently transport invaders?
Fucking autistic shit lmao

>>220580745
>the trojan horse wasn't actually real btw
No shit. If the layers that Schliemann didn't blow up are to be trusted, the city that was probably known as Wilusa by the Hittites was sacked multiple times and at best housed around 5k people. And more importantly, it was rebuilt after the supposed sack several more times.
Everything Homer wrote pertaining to any aspect of this city is just fanfic.

>>220580888
eating shit is not open mindedness.

and wrong changes are bad

>>220580900
You wanted ration explanations so you could dismiss them and defend your shitty product, disingenuous gay

>>220578144
How are the Greeks supposed to stand inside the Odyssey horse when it's vertical like that? They'd all be bunched at the bottom.

>>220580843
>why does a vertical structure made of metal, which is a highly acoustic material would be dumb to silently transport invaders?
Do you do this for every movie you watch? Do you do this for every scene in Lord of the Rings? Every scene in Lawrence of Arabia? Every scene in every movie?

Your argument seems to be that if something isn’t 100% airtight against every possible objection, then the whole movie sucks. But the entire history of film is full of unrealistic or stylized choices. At this level of nitpicking, almost every movie ever made would fall apart.

>>220580391
The Aeneid > Homerslop

>>220580843
>why does a vertical structure made of metal (...) would be dumb
you idiot you can't even construct a sentence

>>220580843
The ones that get puberty blockers are unironically mentally retarded

>>220578181
Based Chuddha.

>>220578144
Where did they get all the bronze to cast a giant horse when they've been on a beach for 10 years?

>>220578144
>This actually happened 3,000 years ago.

>>220580900
>>220580940
>asks for logical reason
>gets a logical reason
>dismisses logical reason due to autism
Classic faggot tranny delusions.
And there's even more
>metal doesn't get hot as fuck on a beach climate
>invaders are getting inside an oven
>troyans wonder why the fuck a structure made of metal sheets weights so much
>structure pretends to hide an invading force, looks like it can fit 10 people max, which have to cramp themselves up and be on other's shoulders while avoiding the scolding hot metal walls

I can go on forever, but you faggot trannies already proved that you don't care about any of that. You will just rever to "why do you care so much it's a movie lmao" right after you asked for logical and reasonable reasons why it looks retarded.

Again, you don't care about quality, you don't care about makijg a good product, you don't even care about logic.
You see this product as a revenge against the Western world and you support it because you think it destroys the structures that deny your miserable existence, that's it.

>>220580843
They built a real, physical Trojan Horse prop and filmed actors inside it. Like what more do you want

>>220581033
>you don't care about any of that.
Why would I care about any of that shit. THis isnt fucking mythbusters you retard Why the fuck would anyone need a prop in a mytholigcal film to pass this level of scrutiny.

>>220580940
those movies never created the problem to begin with
>At this level of nitpicking, almost every movie ever made would fall apart.
nope

>>220581033
>get asked why it "looks" "stupid"
>present a reason as to why it would be functionally improper
>get called a moron
>post this big whiny shit nobody will read because you've already proven you lose grasp of english when angry

>>220581043
>asks why does it look retarded
>gets a list on why it looks retarded
>but it was made irl!
So? You faggot retards are mentally deficient. It's incredible.

PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO MY RAGEBAIT REACTIONARY PROPAGANDA!!!!!!!!!!

>>220581067
It's hilarious how retarded you people are.

>>220581033
>shifts from arguing from a hypothetical "it wouldn't" position and the genuine "it would" angle between lines of greentext
>"scolding"
>"rever"
>conflating looking stupid with being unrealistic for it's purpose
yeesh

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>>220581083
QED >>220581033

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>>220581065
Ok mr smart guy explain why Grond form Lord of the RIngs isnt retarded then to prove your not biased against nolans film. Why aren't the Oliphants stupid? Why do you approve the ringwraith dragon design? Like none of these things come up for other films yet your kvetching over a totally plausible wooden horse design.

>>220581064
> Why the fuck would anyone need a prop in a mytholigcal film to pass this level of scrutiny.
The whole point is that you wouldn't need to if you simply adhered to the original story, because lo and behold, someone from 3000 years ago understood how structures work more than an entire think tank of retards who think they can make a better work than the original.

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>>220581083
i, too, post big whiny posts when I'm laughing at hilarity

>>220581117
okay but it looks cool not stupid.
if it had googly eyes and a lolling tongue it would look stupid. either way it's unrealistic.

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>>220578144

>>220581158
>alright now what
>well, when everyone's asleep, lancelot, galahad and I will jump out of the rabbit
>...who will jump out of the rabbit?
>(pointing) lancelot, galahad... and.. I... oh, well, right...
love that bit

>>220581117
If they built a massive superstructure like >>220580133, you’d still bitch about how it “couldn’t have been built overnight.” This assumption that something couldn’t possibly work unless it’s 100% perfect is ridiculous. Things can work and still be flawed. The Hiroshima bombing mission wasn’t guaranteed to succeed either, but it did.

>>220581102
Notice how you pointed out typos because you couldn't beat the logic. Then you go back to subjectivity. So much for "real arguments", huh?
I also find it hilarious how you turned into the grammar police but you don't know the difference between it's and its.
Again, hilariously stupid.

>>220581201
Your hypothetical scenario is retarded considering OP already has an example of a structure that is feasible within the logic of the story.

>>220581113
>whataboutism

>Grond form Lord of the RIngs isnt retarded
doesn't pretend to be some shit built in one night
>Why aren't the Oliphants stupid?
elephants used as war machines existed irl. the Rohirrim army charging them frontally and the stunt where the lone ranger slices its tendons just passing by were retarded
>Why do you approve the ringwraith dragon design?
What about them?

>>220581157
No it looks stupid, like anything else we've seen so far about this shitty movie

>>220578144
Nowadays most big budget movies feel like they're more concerned about the messaging than the movie itself.

>>220580744
>why hasty.
because the fucking story said so
why does harry potter go to hogwarts instead of just working at the local tesco?

>>220581249
>>220581259
>>220581356
You’re not smart for using impossible-proof standards. Plans can succeed despite flaws. In fact, that’s how most things in history and war actually work.

You could nitpick the other direction and say why would the Trojans even accept the ugly-ass horse from Troy? Your impossible-proof standard doesn’t explain why they’d drag some janky, ugly pile of wood into the city as a gift to the gods. If anything, making the horse more elaborate and horse-like is much more believable, because it looks like something they would see and think, “Yes, this is a worthy offering.”

But I’m not a faggot, so I can accept both versions.

You’re acting like the film has to present a perfectly undebunkable version of the horse in order to work, which is asinine.

>>220581362
>But I’m not a faggot,
your paycheque says otherwise

>>220578207
Why do autistic people have such strong opinions about movies? It is supposed to be an emotional pasttime, if you are some History Warrior sometimes I want to hear from you but mostly I don't. Movies are supposed to be art, not simulation.

>>220581362
Hey, faggot retard. OP already shows something that debunks your entire "impossible-proofs standards" angle.

>>220581415
Sure, if you completely ignore my "why would they accept this ugly ass horse as an offering from the gods" argument

>>220581425
Aaaaaand now you wrote yourself into a corner because after an entire thread talking about subjectivity, it is you who has to formulate your reasoning behind the feasible example being ugly.
lmao

>>220581460
No, because you're intentionally misreading me>>220581362
>I can accept both versions
I've been saying that i'm open to multiple interpretations and either interpretation is fine by me
My original argument was just
>>220578207
>Why does this upset autistic people so much?
there's no logical reason to be this mad about the horse's design

>>220581498
You can accept both versions because your standards allow you to change your definitions of logic at will if it suits your argument.
One version is logical, the other version isn't. When faced with this fact, you then forget about the logical aspect and go into subjectivity. This is because you don't care about good faith arguments, just to validate your standards that are only applied when it suits you.

>>220578250
This explains why Poseidon was also the god of horses.

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>>220581362
>why they’d drag some janky, ugly pile of wood into the city as a gift to the gods.
bronze age objects of worship did not have to be "beautiful" or "realistic" in a representational sense. the thing that makes the horse notable is that horses are sacred to poseidon, not that it's necessarily very accomplished as an art object.

>>220581545
>One version is logical, the other version isn't.
No one version is more "realistic". The other is more mythic. That’s fine. Not every version has to optimize for realism. You’re more concerned with logistics, I’m more concerned with telling a good story because it's a MYTH and I don't want some pedantic hyerrealistic version

>>220578207
>>220581414

None of your business

>>220581671
You are literally regarding one version as more mythic because it suits you. Because you don't argue in good faith.

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The top horse looks cool
The bottom one looks lame.

>>220581742
It's more mythic because it looks like an actual statue not some weird log monster that washed up on the beach

>>220578181

this
nolan is a fking retard, Troy was peak

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>>220581792
Show me a single statue of that period depicting myths made of bronze, faggot. Bronze wasn't used in that form until 300 years later after the myth was written.
Again, using subjectivity when it suits you.

>>220579248
I know where they got the wood
>THERES A TREE ON MY HOUSE

>>220581792
the representational realism of horse statues has nothing to do with "mythicness"

>>220581906
No you don't get it! IT'S ME who thinks it's more mythic and that's why it's mythic! No, you can't use this as an argument, you have to explain why it isn't.

>>220580601
>Why would it matter?
Because soldiers are hidden inside shithead. Can any even fit in nolans design? Maybe 2, with one sitting on another's shoulders

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>>220581839
>Show me a single statue of that period depicting myths made of bronze, faggot. Bronze wasn't used in that form until 300 years later after the myth was written.
So you deferred back to historical realism the second I said the top horse feels more mythological and epic. Not sure how many times I can repeat myself.

Plus it looks closer to how the ancient Greeks actually depicted horses in their art so another point to Nolans version

>>220581975
No I'm not, you retard.
Your argument now has shifted to
>it looks more mythical?
According to who? You? Because certainly wasn't to the Greeks, who never depicted their mythos that way.
Disingeneous faggot

>>220578144
what if the horse statue became a real giant horse and everyone who was inside it got digested and the horse went on a rampage eating everyone
that would be so funny haha

>>220582023
Oh so now we're suddenly arguing subjective taste instead of logic and realism? Crazy how that works when it suits you

At that point it just comes down to POV

>>220582107
No we aren't?
You are making a subjective taste appeal. While claiming that Nolan's one looks more mythical.
It doesn't because you can't find a single depiction of a horse in that way in Greek mythos.
You are the one who is trying to bring your own subjectivity to the table, while claiming it as a fact.
It's both realistically and mythologically wrong, disingeneous faggot.

>>220580843
ESL

>>220578144
Looks better than the ugly driftwood horse, I'd just burn that on the spot if I were Troy

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">>220582135
>You are making a subjective taste appeal. While claiming that Nolan's one looks more mythical.
>It doesn't because you can't find a single depiction of a horse in that way in Greek mythos.
Myths aren’t required to be strict historical recreations. They’re allowed to live in the imagination.

>>220582193
>traditional myths, legends or imagination
Nothing that you claim to be mythical is based in tradition.
Very simple, disingeneous faggot.

>>220582233
>Nothing that you claim to be mythical is based in tradition.
Because myths don’t have to be based on strict historical tradition. That’s just some arbitrary rule you made up.

Myths are allowed to be imaginative and larger-than-life. That’s literally what makes them mythical.

>>220578250
Stop watching random YouTube videos.

>>220582275
It's literally in your definition, disingeneous faggot.
The myth of the Iliad is based on Greek traditions, so your subjective argument is not only made up on the spot in order to suit you, is factually wrong. The horse isn't more mythological in your own definition of the word, it is purely an aesthetic choice which is actually retarded, both in looks (not mythological, again, by your own definition) and in practice.

>>220581033
Wouldn't all the points of why it'd be dumb to have an invading force inside the horse make for good logical reason on why the Trojans would be less supsicious of whether there were people inside thus making it more ideal for a subterfuge effort?

>>220582275
>Myths are allowed to be imaginative
the bottom horse is more "imaginative." the top horse is more representational and therefore less "imaginative."

>>220582329
They wouldn't need to be suspicious since all the invading force would be cooked alive in the bottom one anyways.

>>220582323
A myth can be any ONE of these things, not all, just one
Something that relates to traditional myths
Something that relates to legends
Something that relates to the imagination
Something that exists only in traditional myths
Something that exists only in legends
Something that exists only in the imagination

So mythical can easily be "Something that relates to the imagination"

>>220582355
Literal gods are working with the Greeks. Are you telling me it isn't feasible or logical in an epic myth that the Greek force can't overcome heat with the gods blessings?

>>220582370
Myths are fundamentally defined by tradition. This is a fact.
There's nothing mythical about the one at the bottom, since it doesn't follow Greek tradition.
Not my fault you, again, wrote yourself into a corner.

>>220578181
Maybe one of the greek soldiers was an extremely gifted carpenter

>>220582410
>If I ignore the actual definition and use my own, then I’m right!
Rofl I literally just showed you that that's not the definition.
>>220582193

>>220582404
maybe the gods can bless them with a 2021 BMW 5 Series 530i with optional heated seating

>>220582478
>doesn't know what an oxford comma is so he's unable to understand that the definition he shared refutes his own point
Oh shit, so you're not disingeneous at all. You are just an actual retard.
Yeah, this movie was made for you.

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>>220582504
>Resorting to an Oxford comma argument because you got eternally BTFO'd

>>220581214
possessive apostrophe

>>220582524
Nope, myths are fundamentally defined by tradition. Without tradition, a myth is just fiction.
Sorry that reality is literally against your own arguments, retard-kun.

>>220582482
False equivalence. You can't use hyperbolic analogies and expect anyone to take them seriously. Do you actually think it breaks the rules of the narrative and departs completely from the tone of the story if all-powerful gods grant battle hardy mythological heroes the ability to withstand relatively benign heat for a day?

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>>220582558
>He's still going this asshole!
Jannies ring the bell ffs

>>220582581
i think if your dogshit art design introduces problems you have to then solve with contrived spellcasting that wasn't there in the source material then you are departing from the original narrative, yes

>>220582581
So why build an elaborate structure if the gods have to give them perks to overcome the faults of said structure.
Why not give them invisibility?
The ability to fly?
Why not make the horse fully mechanical?
Why change the biology of the soldiers to overcome the incredible heat of a bronze statue that was left in the heat of the Mediterranean beach? Why not add some air conditioning?

Or...
Just wait, this will sound incredible, I know.
Make the structure out of wood?

>>220582558
By the very definition of the word, myths are fiction, anon…

>>220582623
>so butthurt about the literal definition of myth to depend on traditions that now he's spamming pepe reaction images
lmao, retard-kun is having a melty

>>220582659
>By the very definition of the word, myths are fiction
*rooted in tradition
That's why "just" was added before "fiction".
What's the difference between The Iliad and say, Harry Potter? Why is one considered a myth and the other one is fiction?
It's kind of crazy that you are struggling with this.
Nolan really did make the perfect movie for you.

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>>220578144
One is one and two is two.

>>220582634
>So why build an elaborate structure if the gods have to give them perks to overcome the faults of said structure
This is all under the presupposition that said faults are actually there in the first place. I for one have zero difficulty ignoring certain points of realism in an epic myth if they have no bearing on the actual narrative. Hell if it just said
>some obscure slits in the statue allowed wind to pass through cooling them
>but their hardy bodies still withstood pains from the heat
I wouldn't think twice, no gods required.

>>220578144
Which giant tree growing on the shores of Troy did they carve the giant statue at the top from?

>>220582752
Yes, you already established that you shut down your brain to enjoy movies. The medium is only for you to consume imagery that gives you brief dopamine hits, nothing else.
You don't cohesion to grant yourself suspension of disbelief because you are so low IQ, everything is already suspended in that state in the first place.

>>220578207
Why are you such a cuck with no standards other than pushing DEI?

>>220582815
You can't suspend your disbelief that heroes can withstand non-supernatural heat. You are throwing an autistic tantrum at the most minute of issues

hilarious how the shills for this slop are engaging deeper with the story than the actual production did

>>220582900
When the woke movie supports your propaganda it's "why do you care chud" but when they cast or write stories people want, you are the one who has a tantrum. If Sydney Sweeney was cast as Helen you would be screaming isms and acting like a lunatic. Because you people are all mentally ill.

>>220582945
You probably aren't even white lmao.

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>>220582815
>A dude rows for 10 years, fights monsters, and gets mindfucked by gods on the regular.
>Achilles is basically a demigod who slaughters armies single-handedly.
>Umm the acoustics of the horse probably would be too loud and it'd be pretty hot

>>220582989
I notice how cuck boys like you can't stand on your feet any argument so you result to calling us non-white even though you know we are white. Brown people are not upset about this stuff. They are brown.

>>220583038
Whatever you need to tell yourself to get through the day, ESL

>>220583067
You must be an Israeli

>this is our last chance to win the war, let's make a giant wooden horse as a gift and hide soldiers inside it
>make it quickly and don't ask any gods for help, make sure it looks like a complete pile of shit, they will definitely take it and not just burn it

>>220578144
yeah im not watching this not even gonna pirate it. i honestly am starting to believe nolan wanted to retire but they wouldn't let him so now he's just driving this thing into the ground.

>>220583180
>i honestly believe they wouldn't let the centimillionaire retire
That's because you're mentally ill

>>220583199
take your meds

>>220583199
i don't get why you want this movie to succeed so badly but you do you i guess i am still not watching it. it'll be forgotten in 4 months tops.

>>220578144
The top one doesn't look Greek at all. It looks like something Leonardo would do 1,000 years later. The bottom one looks like a Michael Bay Transformers version of a horse.

>>220583321
Because he's a shill.its that simple. He has such a pathetic life he shills for billionaires in Hollywood to push the destruction of his own civilization

>>220583321
I don't care if it succeeds.I'm just poking holes in your fake outrage.Because it annoys me

>>220583449
No you are a bitch boy who gets down on for jew dick

>>220583467
Why do you want me to be so hateful And angry dude like your anger is just completely unhealthy.And overblown, for what a fucking movie ?

>>220583467
Calm down sweet cheeks.
We know you're a tough guy.

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>>220583449
rattle rattle. still not watching it.

>>220583572
Ok, but you will seethe about it online apparently

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>>220583670
sure why not.

>>220583670
>movie could potentially really cool, the best of the year
>it gets ruined with stupid bullshit
>you're not allowed to say this on board that exists to talk about movies
>i'm a Disney shill

>>220578181
Lol. So true.

>We need to trick the Trojans into accepting a religious offering so we can sneak men inside the city.
>Epeius, master craftsman, are you up to the task?
>With the aid of Athena, I shall construct this sacred offering.
Fixed it for you

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>>220583743
>The horse wasn't built using le heckin' science and historical accuracy
>The movie is ruined

>>220583855
true basedjak, so true. i like that we're friends.

>>220583855
>The movie is a long series of shit decisions
>But you can't point out any of these decisions individually because of my incredibly "witty" sarcasm

>>220578144
You can literally see modern day welding beads in the top image. Nolan could not afford a script supervisor or something? What was he thinking????

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>>220583572
Fuck you, car keys! Broke ass nigga's "toys". Pic rel was the GOAT.

>>220583880
Historical and scientific accuracy is the only argument anyone has
>Helen of Troy wasn't black
>Greek warriors in the Bronze Age didn't wear that armor
>The ships look more Viking than Mycenaean
>They wouldn't have spoken with a modern American accent
None of these legitimately ruins the film, unless you're perpetually online.

>>220583973
and when it flops you're just gonna call peepo raycist for not liking it
.

>>220583855
i wasn't talking about the horse, i was talking about the general shittiness of the movie. but yeah if people want to criticize a film on a board made for that purpose, it is totally normal. i hope this film flops hard, go shill else where retard

>>220584054
Ok and if I want to criticize their criticisms thats fine to

>>220584074
you're criticizing criticism in general tho, which is dumb as fuck

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>>220583973
>Greek warriors in the Bronze Age didn't wear that armor
>The ships look more Viking than Mycenaean
This actually does detract from the movie though. You have to be completely marvel-brained to think otherwise. In fact, people aren't even asking for the movie to be historically accurate. People just want it to actually invoke a FEELING of the Bronze Age, or the Bronze Age as you imagined it as a kid when you weren't as informed. 2004 Troy was rarely ever historically accurate but it still managed to create a feeling of something ancient. Everything I've seen from the Odyssey just looks plastic and so anachronistic that it's impossible to ignore

>>220578181
But then how would the modern audience of 70 IQ brownoids high on corn psyrup know that"s supposed to be a horse?

>>220578144
These both look like fucking shit.
How hard can it be to make a CGI wooden horse?
>>220578275
>>220579784

Delivering a small ship by land makes more sense for a diplomatic gift. It gives the Trojans the opportunity to launch it as their own boat with their own religious ceremony. If it shows up in water then it could have been cursed during the launching, or might be damaged from use. Also if it shows up in enemy harbour it could just get rammed and attacked.
A boat also makes way more sense as a gift than a dumb horse because vessels that could carry dozens of men with cargo were very expensive back then. A wooden horse is only worth as much as the wood.

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This board is nothing but hypocrites. When Troy came out you all hated it and constantly made fun of Diane Kruger being cast as Troy, Orlando Bloom's terrible acting and Brad Pitts cringe "HECTOR!" line, now you're all acting like its the best movie ever just cause you're all being chuds hating on Nolan.

>>220583506
If you don't get mad about the loss of your people and civilization then you are faggot. Words can't explain my rage and I will never hate them and you enough.

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>>220584121
Not really. This feels less like a meaningful criticism of the movie and more like a lazy way to show off what you googled so you can feel smart. Historical epics were never expected to be 100% accurate.

are people seriously defending this pozzed tripe

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I think it's ok to like things

>>220584225
Believe it or not but I don't think this movie will cause the extinction of white people

>>220584230
What? Did you read my post? Like at all? I literally just said that Troy from 2004 was rarely ever historically accurate but is still a good movie that invokes a feeling of an ancient period. I am not sure if it could have been spelled out any more clearly
>more like a lazy way to show off what you googled so you can feel smart
What does this even mean lol

>>220584332
>What? Did you read my post?
No because you're a faggot

>>220584286
believe it or not i don't think raising the temperature a little bit will cook you, frog

>>220584236
>people
trannies

>>220584355
You have brown IQ levels. Sorry about that bro and good luck

>>220584374
*yawn*

>>220584332
Troy had many nice touches of history
Examples
>4 spoked chariot wheels
>chariots used as transport only
>boar tusk helmets

Someone cared at least a little

>>220584371
oh right the tranny queen is in it

>>220584286
I don't think the total nuclear annihilation of india, israel and africa will result in any human lives being lost.
so we agree there :)

so this is realistic mythos?

itt : people stumbling upon the fact that the trojan horse was dogshit writing 3000 years ago

>>220584185
Troy was pretty average and everyone admits it. Now Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut, that was a good film

>>220583038
>even though you know we are white.
Uhoh looks like poopdeep can't model other people's minds. Looks like a street shitter just lost his izzat

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>>220584388
Don't worry, you leave with a small victory here too. You may be genuinely low IQ, and you may be too much a shyguy to own up to it and that you said something genuinely retarded, but at least you successfully managed to ragebait me with your retardation too. I am genuinely fuming watching you squirm away from trying to defend wtf you even thought you were saying in this post >>220584230. You are valid

>>220584405
Yeah. And even in the parts that were entirely ahistorical, Troy still felt like it was created by people interested in the Bronze Age. Though I wonder if it's a generation thing. Maybe a zoomer genuinely sees those huge steel armors and think "yeah I know this isn't historically accurate but it feels suitably Bronze Age-like at least", just like we did for the ahistorical armours in Troy

>>220578181
This would take Roman engineers (who could build seaworthy ships in a month) like 1 week.

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>>220584856
Ah yes, who can forget the famous contributions of the romans to the Trojan War.