>>220582068
Are you from the crab nebula

>>220582068
You my nigga rockington. Sucks that we didn't get to see Adrian

>>220582068
you can't say that word, rocky.

>>220582068
I love this little guy

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>movie is about established actor interacting with puppets

>>220582068
> Alf but with a different body

Why are filmmakers so lazy?

>>220582465
Now in rock form!

>>220582353
amaze amaze amaze

>>220582068
How did they get the organisms eating the sun from venus to test? We can't just fly to venus.
Why did they carelessly take the sample out the lab for Goslings venus test? What if it escaped the lab? Is it harmful to earth?
Why would earth trust Gosling if he says he can't do the job and he is taken against his will? Why is he the only one? Wouldn't a volunteer that is motivated be better?
Why did his crew die but he did not?
If the micro sun organisms are super fuel, why can't they bring more fuel? Why can they send only one ship? Wouldn't this fuel revolutionize space travel?
How does gosling's method of communication with Rocky work? How does recording rocky's language help either of them understand eachother?
Why does gosling never ask important questions about Rocky's home and species? They just show us millenial humor but no attempts to share vital knowledge.
What does his civilization know? How advanced are they? What is their culture like? He selfishly talks about earth millenial things but never anything else. Why wouldn't earth send another ship to investigate the alien in the end? Why is the old Grey haired lady in charge of earth? Where is the military? Once they save the sun, Wouldn't the existence of another civilization in space be a concern?
How do they know the micro organism predators will survive on venus?
How can he have fuel to send a bunch of pods but not make the journey himself? How can those pods travel the distance? How can they trust the pods?
Why does Rocky build gosling a biodome but not something for himself?
How does Rocky reproduce without his mate?

>>220582732
>How did they get the organisms eating the sun from venus to test? We can't just fly to venus.
Yes we can and have
not goanna bother and read the rest

>>220582320
why question? I look at computer, humans say nigger very much

I never should have let Rocky on 4chan now this little dude is dropping hard R's left and right

>>220582068
tell me more about your mate rocky. How was the honeymoon?

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>>220582068
IT WAS SUPPOSE TO BE HER BIG BREAK
WHY DID THEY CUT HER ROCKY?

>>220582732
Why did we never see Gosling take a shit? Are supposed to believe he never shits?

>>220582732
>How did they get the organisms eating the sun from venus to test? We can't just fly to venus.
the soviets flew to venus decades ago
>Why did they carelessly take the sample out the lab for Goslings venus test? What if it escaped the lab? Is it harmful to earth?
hed already done tests by that point
>Why would earth trust Gosling if he says he can't do the job and he is taken against his will? Why is he the only one? Wouldn't a volunteer that is motivated be better?
they had no time to train a replacement without missing their launch window
>Why did his crew die but he did not?
the coma technology wasnt tested much. goose got lucky
>If the micro sun organisms are super fuel, why can't they bring more fuel? Why can they send only one ship? Wouldn't this fuel revolutionize space travel?
they only have time to make enough fuel for a one way trip
>How does gosling's method of communication with Rocky work? How does recording rocky's language help either of them understand eachother?
rockys sounds are consistent. all goose needs to do is identify the sound rocky makes to identify an object and go from there
>Why does gosling never ask important questions about Rocky's home and species? They just show us millenial humor but no attempts to share vital knowledge.
yeah this one is kind of a shame. probably happens off camera i guess
>What does his civilization know? How advanced are they? What is their culture like? He selfishly talks about earth millenial things but never anything else.
theyre more advanced than earth in some ways but dont understand radiation. also, in the book, they dont understand relativity

>>220582732
>>220582920
>Why wouldn't earth send another ship to investigate the alien in the end? Why is the old Grey haired lady in charge of earth? Where is the military? Once they save the sun, Wouldn't the existence of another civilization in space be a concern?
the story is over by that point. we have no idea what they did next because the credits rolled and i left the cinema
>How do they know the micro organism predators will survive on venus?
they explicitly bred them to do that
>How can he have fuel to send a bunch of pods but not make the journey himself? How can those pods travel the distance? How can they trust the pods?
probe is small. ship is big. big thing need more fuel
>Why does Rocky build gosling a biodome but not something for himself?
we dont see where rocky lives?
>How does Rocky reproduce without his mate?
that doesnt happen?

the overwhelming majority of these are explicitly addressed in the film. look up from tiktok, zoomzoom

>>220582732
decent pasta

I hate minimalist so fucking much, this thing looks like the shit i took this morning

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>>220582833
>no pigtails
doomed to fail

All the scenes on Earth with the German actress were so good and it felt like they were from a different, more serious movie about space travel.

>>220582832
I fist her bump then she fist my bump and mud come out and we feel happy happy happy happy happy

>>220582822
>He can hear me typing nigger from the other room

>>220582920
>they had no time to train a replacement without missing their launch window
This was bad in the film, their mission was measured in decades, a launch window of days doesn't make sense.
Book did it better

If the astrophage breeds in co2 then why aren't they breeding more on science man's ship?

>>220582732
These are all questions asked by someone who read the Wikipedia synopsis but didn't watch the film

BAZINGA

>>220582732
>How does gosling's method of communication with Rocky work? How does recording rocky's language help either of them understand eachother?
This annoyed me too. They did almost a weird cinematic sleight of hand. You have them agreeing what numbers are and Rocky counting from 1 to 12 then right away he is already saying normal words but they didn't elaborate how they got from numbers to words, it just happened

>>220582732
Based. This movie was retarded.

>>220582068
dude is a better friend to humans than a human lol

>>220582068
I like that they didn't humanise it's appearance to make it relatable to us.

>>220582068
When humanity betrays you so much you end befriending rocks.

>>220582474
He's back!
In rock form.

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Sorry male earthling but the Eridian chad gets the girl

>>220582068
Wubba Lubba Dub-dub! Ahaha I turned myself into a rock, Morty! I'm a Rock-Rick! XDDD

The most unbelievable part of the movie wasn't the rock alien but the ugly scientist woman having any chance with a guy like Ryan Gosling

>>220583412
Wasnt covered in the book either. It's possible but in reality probably very boring and tedious

>>220582732
>How did they get the organisms eating the sun from venus to test? We can't just fly to venus.
Flying to Venus is not a problem we just have no reason to go.
>Why did they carelessly take the sample out the lab for Goslings venus test? What if it escaped the lab? Is it harmful to earth?
Considering its traveled thru space and only eats the sun they'll be fine. They clearly knew a lot more about it than gosling at that point.
>Why would earth trust Gosling if he says he can't do the job and he is taken against his will? Why is he the only one? Wouldn't a volunteer that is motivated be better?
Movie wouldn't happen and he's "the most knowledgeable about astrophage"
>Why did his crew die but he did not?
Malfunction on ship
>If the micro sun organisms are super fuel, why can't they bring more fuel? Why can they send only one ship? Wouldn't this fuel revolutionize space travel?
Weight? Probably faster to send them out to save earth as fast as possible without more fuel slowing trip down. We're talking 7 billion ppl vs 3
>How does gosling's method of communication with Rocky work? How does recording rocky's language help either of them understand eachother?
I agree they pass over what would probably be the most interesting part of first contact.
>Why does gosling never ask important questions about Rocky's home and species? They just show us millenial humor but no attempts to share vital knowledge.
It's not important to the dillema at hand.
>What does his civilization know? How advanced are they? What is their culture like? He selfishly talks about earth millenial things but never anything else. Why wouldn't earth send another ship to investigate the alien in the end? Why is the old Grey haired lady in charge of earth? Where is the military? Once they save the sun, Wouldn't the existence of another civilization in space be a concern?
Same as above. She was designated as the best scientific mind to handle such a project
Reached text limit of post

We wouldnt be able to win a war against the rocky race

>>220582732
>How do they know the micro organism predators will survive on venus?
The petrova line connects to the planet with the same atmospheric conditions as Venus doesn't it?
>How can he have fuel to send a bunch of pods but not make the journey himself? How can those pods travel the distance? How can they trust the pods?
Pods are 1000x smaller than the ship. They sent 5 as a resundancy
>Why does Rocky build gosling a biodome but not something for himself?
What do you mean they did both in the film.
>How does Rocky reproduce without his mate?
?

>>220582068
This guy was just ET crossed with a dog's personality

>>220582068
rocky was good comedy relief. the movie wasn't terrible. if i were 12 it would probably be my favourite movie.

>a turd

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>>220583772
>didn't humanise it's appearance to make it relatable to us.
Worse, they made him a dog that can talk

>>220584172
They're the same age.

>>220584259
It was totally covered in the book.

>>220585140
>I enter the frequencies for what I think is “no” into my spreadsheet. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong and we’ll work it out later. I hold up the “+” symbol. “Four.” He holds up three fingers on one hand, and one finger on another. “.” I make note of the frequencies.
>For the next several hours, we expand our shared vocabulary to several thousand words. Language is kind of an exponential system. The more words you know, the easier it is to describe new ones.


It absolutely does not

>>220585263
rocky is just really smart

>>220585263
You just quoted the process. You left out the part about the software he used to record the frequencies - some program from the 90s. He had all human knowledge in his ship - all literature, music, entertainment, and software ever written. That is why rocky was so excited to get the laptop.

>>220585263
It's basically a handwave because otherwise the story doesn't happen. In reality yes translating an alien language would be one of the most difficult tasks humanity has ever undertaken because you can't count on basic shared fundamental concepts. But the story would be very boring if it was just them unable to understand one another you need dialogue.

>>220585612
My uncle translated 4 alien languages at NASA in like one year in the 80s shut the fuck up. Scratch that. One crazy summer at NASA.

>>220585549
I was quoting how in the book it also doesn't explain what anon said here
>>220583412
>They did almost a weird cinematic sleight of hand. You have them agreeing what numbers are and Rocky counting from 1 to 12 then right away he is already saying normal words but they didn't elaborate how they got from numbers to words, it just happened

The entire translation of the alien language is just almost irrelevant since rocky pretty much thinks like a human anyway and immediately picks up the lingo etc
as soon as that is out of the way rocky starts behaving like a dorky cali asian guy and that's that.

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i just watched it
it was ok
better than all of the people that cry about it being the most r*dd*t movie of all time
also this dudes name is seven
just seven

>>220582137
She might have been one of the rock spiders at the end for all we know

>>220582846
Pretty sure he was recording a log while shitting at one point and rocky interrupted him

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>send a video of middle finger back to earth
>spends the rest of life with his rock friends, they will probably make him immortal too
Good ending and what should have happened. You knock me out and send on a suicide mission? Then fuck your humanity.

>no wife
>no family
>no friends
>not even a dog
>he just teaches and then go straight home
What's wrong with him?

>>220586000
ryan stopped remembering names of assistants and just numbers them

>>220586184
>doesn't have a car because global warming
>hates biking to work
>spacebugs do a little -10 C anyways
>still bike to work

>>220586155
It was a choice between
>humanity dying because we didn't send a rocket
Or
>sending a rocket with Grace on

>>220585937
you can develop a shared language using math. an alien can recognise 2, 2, and 4, and deduce easily that the symbols between the numbers mean "and" and "equal". From there you can move onto sets and logic and get words for concepts like "not", "or", "includes" "excludes" and so on. Couple that with the fact Rocky uses sound to communicate, and can perceive solid objects, and it's a slam dunk

>>220585001
wtf she's only 3 years older. They had weird sexual tension for what I assumed was more of a maternal/protege relationship but you're telling me it was always supposed to be romantic?

>>220585612
>can't count on basic shared fundamental concepts
[citation needed]. As a polyglot chad I believe if we share the concept of using symbols with specific meanings then it wouldn't be that hard. It's weirder that they don't have AI in the universe and the ship's computer is extremely stupid even by today's standards. Is Weir an anti-ai chud?

>>220582732
The short answer is: Andy Weir is not a scientist, he is a computer programmer with a knowledge base frozen in time from 20 years ago. The most technically correct thing about the movie was Gosling using an array of alien noise recordings assigned to English words to be spoken with by an voice translator; something that could be feasibly vibe coded in a few weeks with 2030's AI tools. The rest is baloney.

>>220586574
>It's weirder that they don't have AI in the universe and the ship's computer is extremely stupid
thought if that too when I watched it. I think it would've made him seem less lonely and isolated, taking away from his relationship with rocky

>>220582068
how was he able to generate that methane cover thing?

>>220586497
It was very obviously meant to be romantic. Did you miss the scene where Ryan was at the bar by his lonesome watching everyone hooking up except him. Then his grandma girlfriend shows up

>>220584172
>here's your love interest bro
>it's a middle aged, cold, stand offish, busted European bitch

Soo...how did those 2 die and him survive?

>>220582732
Nice retardpasta, got a few

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>>220582068
Can you imagine HR Giger coming back from the dead and telling him that thing is the most popular alien design in film in 2026......he would want to die again.

>>220586960
The Jap commited auto-seppuku in stasis because he dishonored himself and the Russian suffocated because her giant tits weighed down and constricted her breathing.

>>220582732
Venus is nearly as easy to get to as the moon homie because we can aero brake and it has a large gravity well. We will probably terraform it someday

>>220587020
Didn't she cut her tits?

>>220586960
The fact anyone survived is a miracle. It's not explained very well in the film. Basically nobody can survive the coma

How can microorganisms eat the sun? I checked Wikipedia and it says the sun is really hot.

>>220587130
>Basically nobody can survive the coma
Then why did they even send them there? And how did he survive?
Btw, did he plan to go to coma on the way back? With those 4 years?

>>220587199
You sound like a chat bot
Save earth
Some people can survive and revive fully after decades in comas
No way back unless they used the astrophage it was fuel. Problem was speed.

>>220587130
The idea of cryosleep is fucking retarded. No you can't go into a coma and stay alive forever and just wake up magically. That is fantasy bullshit.

>>220582068
I was recently rereading the book again and I realised how Gosling gives Rocky's people a massive advantage over Earth by handing over the ship's entire library over to them, that's pretty much the biggest fuck-you he can give to Strass or whatever her name was since it was her idea in the first place.

>>220582732
most of these questions are answered in the book.

>>220587314
People go into comas and come out after months, years even decades and recover
Basically the cold is added to slow down chemical reactions in your body meaning aging is slowed. It’s not that far off. If we ever go for beyond mars we will use it more and more might even use it for mars. Just put people in conas for a couple of weeks in rotations

>>220587314
How do you know that if they didnt test on people?

>>220587369
Btw usually it’s 3 days are extremely safe under the right circumstances and 14 is pushing it but with enough resources it’s doable. Currently.

So there you go
You could send a crew of 4 to mars for 6 months and hav 2 rotations

>>220582068
F I S T
I
S
T

Another attempt to humanize r*ssians, another one failed.

>>220582068
what up FOTM

No reason on moon shots btw the equipment needed weighs more than resources for people mars maybe it’s close beyond mars yeah at current speeds you need it to get to Jupiter and beyond at best maybe 6 years and that is fast usually it’s 7 to 10 years

I like the movie but realistically speaking, humans could just have farmed the petrova line for infinite energy.
The movie did a bad job conveying just how much energy was contained in the spin drive. When Grace said it would be enough to blow up california, he wasn't exaggerating.

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>>220582068

How's it going my brother from another mother

A tektite?

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>>220582732

The question nobody asks, how does an organism that's 95÷% water exist on the surface of the sun, if it was backed off of the sun some miles and acted almost like a solar panel while golfing the star It would make more sense but no it actually eats the star from the surface which makes no fucking sense!

>>220587849
It's in the book. It doesn't eat the sun. It harvests the energy in the photons storing it with some quantum mechanism. Less energy through photons is getting to earth.

>>220582732
didn't read, didn't ask, you're jewish or brown

>>220587849
>how does an organism that's 95÷% water exist on the surface of the sun
space magic
basically, it converts suns energy into mass (neutrinos) and emits them for propulsion (in infrared frequency)

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>Grace! You gave my son fourth degree burns you weak son of a bitch

>>220582068
Rocky being a proper puppet saved the character. I can't imagine how nasty it would've looked if they tried for CGI.

>>220587563
By the end of it they have the means to grow both astrophage and taomeba

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>mfw Rocky does a little foot-stomp to indicate a "firm" question or statement
It instantly reminded me of a horse or sheep and how they stomp their foot when they're mad, it's the little things that made me fall in love with Rocky. He's a very fun character and then I remembered he's a real "sapient" with proper courage and loyalty when he got crispy saving Grace.

rocky is wearing a cock ring on his mating arm the entire movie

>>220587314
Yes, in the book there's the idea that 1 in 7000 humans have a coma resistance gene. Quote from Grace when he finds out:
>“This seems like a dream come true. Like suspended animation in sci-fi novels.

>>220588284
So what you're saying is, Grace needs to go back to Earth and get milked for an extraterrestrial breeding program.

>>220587849
It’s based off chemosynthesic organisms but uses photosynthesis instead. Meaning it harvests energy and converts it to mass but uses some to get around which happens.

Most likely there is weird shit like this already in our own solar system. For instance there is more life below 100 meters to 200 meters the surface of the earth than on the entire surface and air. In that 100 meters probably 10 times more life at very least. Compared to below the surface of the planet we live on a barren surface with giant mediums of water and air. Life down there is literally stacked on each other.
>>220588284
That’s.. probably real. Some people in some gene lines can go years in weeks and months even years then survive. It’s crazy

>>220588323
>For instance there is more life below 100 meters to 200 meters the surface of the earth than on the entire surface and air. In that 100 meters probably 10 times more life at very least
By mass, or by individuals? Because mass sounds wild.

I will say it was a fun movie It's good to have a film with a happy ending once in a while it's been like over 20 years of dark endings.

>>220587001
Yeah well "old thing good new thing bad" is getting boring as fuck. Let Giger keep resting

how the fuck did they colonize the entire galaxy before we noticed in like a decade?
why would they even spread to different star systems?
like one of them decides the local sun is too full and will just spend 1000 years to get to the next sun instead

>>220588861
When they travel between a planet and the sun for breeding sometimes they miss, 99% of the time they just die. Sometimes they get into the neighboring system with a viable planet and they start breeding there. repeat over and over until they web across the galaxy
do remember they weigh almost nothing and produce metric fuck tons of propulsion, they can get far very fast

>>220582396
Always a sign of certified kino.

>they didn't know about radiation because sunlight doesn't reach the surface of their planet
aren't there naturally occurring radioactive rocks?

>>220588861
>>220588917
The kino with the Astrophage is that it slaughters intelligent life but otherwise leaves the biosphere... Intact, but in a weakened state. All you gotta do is introduce the Taomeba and bingo bongo you've got a shiny new planet.

>>220589052
freezing a planet tends to kills all the life on the planet actually anon

>>220589032
They're made out of rock and their blood's mercury, I don't think they would be hurt by gamma radiation.

>>220588345
Mass. It’s literally stacked on each other in gaps between cracks. There is probably life even on the moon way down. Everyone we dig boreholes it keeps popping up with fracking and drilling it’s being found everywhere in the last decade and we are still finding more.
>>220588861
I feel like you are trying to write an article
It only evolved on tau Ceti 12 light years away. It was an upper atmosphere organism that developed a way to use photons to propel itself. It can go .92 speed of light.

>>220582833
Did they cut more scenes of her? The character is barely in the book so I wasn't surprised she didn't have much screentime

>>220589061
>All of the life dies but the nutrients are intact
>You can now transplant terrestrial plants on the planet after warming it up

>>220589505
Venus is imho easier to terraform we have the life forms here already to do it but they exist at the bottom of the ocean. You just drop them there and let them gradually eat up the atmosphere and drop off silica etc so the clouds of turn into a shiny metal ball which starts dropping heat off. Papers have been written about it. The entire volcanatr surface would be buried under miles of highly reflective oceans of metal dropping more heat and giving you a proper rotation. Right now the planet rotates to slow doing this gives you a magnetic field two metals going the opposite way etc blah blah projecting from sun etc energy dropping more heat. It would be biological life to do it. The upper atmosphere of Venus is already earth like for 50-90 miles there you go. I read this nonsense constantly but mars you’d have to deprbit the moons with paint which would heat up the ice they have which leads to sublimation meaning propulsion and breaking them up. Also papers

>>220582137
>Rock crab bitch with big ass tits
Missed a chance for pure kino

>>220589032
If sunlight didn't reach the surface of their planet then why the fuck would their Sun 'dying' be of any consequence to them?

>>220589775
it still heats the atmosphere even if the light doesn't reach the surface

>>220582732
I don't agree with all of these exact knitpicks but I share the sentiment. The entire thing is too fucking casual.
Some of the ones that bothered me were glazing over the language development. The shit about breeding a new species of predator in like a fucking day then it evolving again but being easy to contain. I don't remember them talking about rocky being water based or not, what the fuck? The entire premise hinges on goose being some sort of smart nigga, but then is not only wrong about the first alien life they encounter, he later isn't even curious enough to ask a fucking ROCK MAN if he's hydrogen based.

>>220589839
He’s not that smart but has a gene. He’s 1/100 in the movie but the gene is rare

>>220589839
>but being easy to contain
anon the immediate follow up to him breeding the taumoeba is that it also evolved to escape the container they were breeding it in
are you okay?

>>220589904
No, I mean after that. He just puts it in a different container and that's good? This thing evolved incredibly fast twice but this Ziploc did the trick

>>220589633
stemcel gobbledygook. Don't believe everything those eggheads publish for their paper mafias anon.

>>220589839
>The entire premise hinges on goose being some sort of smart nigga, but then is not only wrong about the first alien life they encounter, he later isn't even curious enough to ask a fucking ROCK MAN if he's hydrogen based.

1. Just because Grace is smart doesn't mean his hypothesis can't be wrong.
2. A lot of stuff happens off screen in the movie, like them discussing all sort of scientific details. The movie cuts these parts because it focuses on the emotional impact of their friendship

>>220589991
It’s real stuff. I’m too lazy to look it up you can. Won’t happen any time soon

>>220589951
it evolved incredibly fast because it was rapidly bred and culled over and over to force it to evolve quickly
its evolutionary pressure was to avoid the nitrogen that kills it
the solutions are A, develop a tolerance to higher % of nitrogen and B, Worm your way into the crystal structure of xenonite to avoid the nitrogen
Grace was breeding for A but obviously B also evolved
we do similar shit with bacteria irl and its why every few years the newscycle cries about antibacterial resistance

>>220589951
taumoeba evolved to hide in xenonite to survive nitrogen. It didn't evolve to hide in plastic

>>220590026
Just like me

>>220589998
Sure, but even one fucking sentence would have been enough. It could have fit the tone too. 'rocky, you don't have any hydrogen in you do you?" "lol, life without hydrogen not possible"

>>220582353
>hes literally me

Honestly the worst part of the movie was the gay little twirl goose did in the very last scene. Also why didn't he fuck the boss lady or a rock lady at the end. There should have been some rock lady in his bed when he got up to go to work.

>>220590075
Anon, I think you are really underestimating just how deep the science in the book goes.
If they tried to explain everything, it would turn the movie into a boring slog. I thought they were quiet ballsy to go with the 'show, don't tell approach' leaving the scientific details in the movie without explaining them.

Two examples:
>tau ceti is 10 light years from earth, grace casually mentions that the trip home will take him four years, without mentioning the concept of relativity
>when looking for rockys ship, is repeatedly firing the spin drive, looking for the reflection of blip-a in petrova frequency.

>>220589823
So? It would be hard for life to grow you dumb cunt

>>220590256
My bad king I didn't know you had profound mental retardation

>>220590271
You need sunlight for life you dumb cunt

>>220590290
What about them deep sea niggas

>>220590290
Thats not what you asked though is it downie?

>>220590290
Complex life* I should qualify

>>220589775
Erid has the biosphere of the sea, except its just dense ammonia instead of water.
High up where sunlight is you have photosynthesizers
at the bottom you have the rock crab eridians
1, they still need the warmth the sun provides
2, they'd notice the decline in life dropping down to the bottom

>>220590361
Are there any black eridians?

>>220590319
You said the rock's planet receives no direct sunlight but the Sun's strength waning is a major problem because they need the Sun because of its supposed unknown role as an external heat source that's needed for an unknown reason, without them receiving direct sunlight there would be no complex life on a planet, if they can survive with the Sun merely acting as a low emitting heat source I doubt it going down 30% would impact them much at all especially given they can create their own environment with bio domes

>>220590393
rocky is actually a DEI hire himself

>>220590361
1. No complex life exists without direct sunlight, their existence is impossible
2. They have the ability to create artificial environments, I don't think that their Sun losing 30% of its strength would be catastrophic at all

>>220590406
>If sunlight didn't reach the surface of their planet then why the fuck would their Sun 'dying' be of any consequence to them?
This is what you asked.
The surface of a planet is defined as the hard ground beneath the atmosphere. No light reaches this. And yet sunlight still reaches the planet's upper atmosphere.
Slide my cock into the back of your throat.

>>220590448
No highly intelligent life can exist without photosynthesis, you lose, the fact they can make artificial environments raises questions as to why the petrova line is even an issue for them

>>220590512
I don't know why you're speaking with authority about highly intelligent life when you're about on par with a brain damaged molerat

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>>220590445
>No complex life exists without direct sunlight
HURRRRRRRRRR

So, how far was rock planet from earth? How long will it take for dude to make it home with a full tank of fuel? Why was Grace even able to catch up to rocky?

>>220590802
40 Eridani and Tau Ceti are all real star systems, Wiki says Rock starsystem is 16 lightyears from our Sun, and Rock starsystem is 10 lightyears from Tau Ceti. The starships travel at 0.92C.

>>220582068
what do rock people eat? All we see in the movie is rocky shoving another rock thing up his ass. Was that another rock animal he was eating? Are rock people vegan?

>>220582732
>millenial
Weir is in his fucking 50s. He isn't 'millenial.' Will gen x ever take credit for ruining media even more than the boomers?

>>220590290
>>220590445
>>220590512
>1. No complex life exists without direct sunlight, their existence is impossible
This is quite retarded, and early life on Earth was almost certainly chemolithoautotrophic, and there is no reason that complex, even sentient life, cannot exist without photosynthesis. That is just heterotroph chauvinism.
See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_chauvinism

>b-b-but not complex!
If life can arise, and there is enough energy, complex life can very conceivably evolve without sunlight. You just need trophic levels and sufficient energy, and this can come from everything from high pressure to tidal heating.

>>220590997
same stuff that humans eat + heavy metals

>>220590997
they eat meat
its just also in a rocky carapace

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>>220582732
>How did they get the organisms eating the sun from venus to test? We can't just fly to venus.
Don't remember this from the book. Haven't seen the movie.
>Why did they carelessly take the sample out the lab for Goslings venus test?
It got out. It is nothing life Earth life so existing containment protocols were not adequate.
>What if it escaped the lab?
In the book it did IIRC.
>Is it harmful to earth?
Not unless the Earth become a star, no
>Why would earth trust Gosling if he says he can't do the job and he is taken against his will? Why is he the only one? Wouldn't a volunteer that is motivated be better?
He was very well-versed in Astrophage and made many intuitive leaps no one else did. If you have a magic drug that makes you forget your cowardice, it is not a terrible move.
>Why did his crew die but he did not?
Random chance. Technology was too new to be reliable.
>If the micro sun organisms are super fuel, why can't they bring more fuel?
Take time to grow, and it needs energy to grow. In the book they had to basically destroy the entire Sahara to make enough solar power to grow Astrophage just enough to get to Erid.
Remember: Erid is so high pressure and hot that they can make it on that planet with much, much less effort.
>Why can they send only one ship?
Because they had to turn the entire Sahara into one giant solar plant in the books. The entire globe contributed.
>Wouldn't this fuel revolutionize space travel?
Yes, given sufficient time. In the book it is theorized to be a space fuel.

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>>220582732
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>How does gosling's method of communication with Rocky work?
It's an AI program, using machine learning.
>How does recording rocky's language help either of them understand each other?
This is one of the weakest parts of the book, but it is not impossible. A far-future implementation would work on the same principles. It's just the computing power and it is doubtful that we would be able to guess extraterrestrial life's language even then. How do you interpret an alien that communicates with colors, or silences, or chemical emissions/smells a trillion times more complex than what we can sense? The processing power needed would scale exponentially.
>Why does gosling never ask important questions about Rocky's home and species?
He does in the book.
>They just show us millenial humor but no attempts to share vital knowledge.
IDK what that means, and I turn 38 in 8 days.
>What does his civilization know?
They only recently got into space when their sun started dimming, IIRC.
>How advanced are they?
Advanced but slightly less adventurous than humans. They only recently got into orbit, and only because they knew something was wrong.
They do not know anything about radiation, since Rocky's crew died from radiation poisoning. something no advanced species could fail to understand while also achieving space flight.
They also can make strong materials out of xenon (something we cannot do).

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>What is their culture like? He selfishly talks about earth millenial things but never anything else.
Not as much mentioned in the book. The "I sleep, you watch" thing is kind of a big deal for them. Also eating is fucking gross and they treat it as a shameful, private affair like we do shitting.
>Why wouldn't earth send another ship to investigate the alien in the end?
Gosling (now on Erid) only finds out about the signal in the epilogue of the book. So maybe Earth did, but they only just found out because our Sun in their sky is no longer dimming. So since we can't travel at anywhere close to light speed, there is no way Earth finds out about Rocky until the epilogue, much less send a new ship.
>Why is the old Grey haired lady in charge of earth?
Why is anyone chosen for any position? She was the right woman for the job.
>Where is the military?
It's an administration job. If they need to kill something, the soldiers are always available. But this was an international collaboration to save the world. It was first and foremost an economic endeavor, followed by a scientific expedition. No need for military; not the right tool for the job. Even astronauts in the US work for NASA, not the Air Force (although most have USAF or Navy backgrounds).
>Once they save the sun, Wouldn't the existence of another civilization in space be a concern?
Again, the primary protag sends the info and then goes to Erid. It takes many years to get to earth, and many more years to get a response. In the book we only find out that Earth is saved in the epilogue, and only because news of our now-fixed Sun travels at the speed of light.
>How do they know the micro organism predators will survive on venus?
I'm guessing this is from the movie only, not the book.

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>How can he have fuel to send a bunch of pods but not make the journey himself?
The pods are communication only, no life support. That way you can have more of them.
>How can those pods travel the distance?
Astrophage + no bulky human life support stuff.
>How can they trust the pods?
It is the only choice they have.
>Why does Rocky build gosling a biodome but not something for himself?
In the book, the protag can use a space suit, while Rocky literally has super hot ammonia as his breathing; he would literally melt the protag and his suit instantly.
>How does Rocky reproduce without his mate?
educate yourself
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenogenesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_sperm_storage
and that's just scratching the tip of the iceberg for reproductive strategies. See also: anglerfish, blue wrasse, Kobudai for other interesting strategies.

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>>220591610
I'm not reading all that

>>220582068
I would die for you Rocky

>>220591655
(You) asked, I answered

>>220583145
>... nigger
>Yes, what is nigger , question?
>theres no way you heard that

>>220584531
They are weak to radiation and they seemingly don't know it exists. It would be extremely easy to kill them.

>don't understand what relativity is
Would that be because they don't age nearly as quickly as humans do or are they just a little bit retarded?

>>220592028
The second.
What would the first have to do with it?

>>220582068
Hi Rock.
Once we establish a space military and develop cool space weapons, we are gonna do operation freedom on your planet.

>>220583412
They did cover it if you paid attention. He was recording the words with his application and then manually putting in their meaning as he learned them. The trip to that planet took a long time, there are many time skips.

>>220592028
>or are they just a little bit retarded?
You think you can come up with the concept independently? It's an absolutely insane thing to just think about and be correct on, it didn't have to happen at all here. It would have eventually been found our experimentally, but those little rock dudes only went to space to fix their sun.

>>220582972
Your shit is rock solid with green spots?

>>220591568
>Also eating is fucking gross and they treat it as a shameful, private affair like we do shitting.
Because they eat and shit at the same time.

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started reading the book
>Rocky wears a cotton like poncho
was fucking weird, glad he was naked in the movie

>>220590290
Wrong.
We don't need sunlight.
We don't need water.
We don't need carbon.

>>220592028
>no eyes so the entire EM spectrum is mostly an afterthought until their sun starts dying
>not giving a shit about EM means not figuring out the speed of light
>not figuring out the speed of light means not figuring out relativity
The fact that going fast rotates your velocity out of time and into space is kind of a fucky idea to come up with otherwise.

>>220582732
>all those replies
Lol

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Why is he so... rocky?
Before the film came out fan art had a more bug-carapace-like design with much more dexterous hands. Film Rocky doesn't seem like a member of a species with intelligence and tool use ability.

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WEBM requests? No subtitles, sorry.

>>220593071
some of the fist my bump scenes, whichever you like

>>220593071
oh oh oh and rocky shoving his hand up his ass

Kek I get banned for nigger poasting but it's safe if it's in an approved commercial thread.

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>>220586854
You can't tell me she wasn't smoking hot

>>220593111
Ok.
>>220593116
Nah.

>>220593206
OH BROTHER THIS GUY
Nah, thanks anon, appreciate it

>>220593071
This part pissed me off. He put on his stupid millenial outfit just to drink vodka

>>220582732
Amaze. Amaze. Amaze.

Do you think the movie would've been better or worse if they just had him do massive monologues like the book

>>220586184
Autism literally. He doesn't realize how smart and charismatic he actually is.

>>220590231
Do more examples they are fun

>>220593292
I dont care. This movie was kino

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Reminder that racemixing almost cost them the mission. They're supposed to have two teams with 3 people each (1 captain 1 engineer 1 scientist), but scientist A and scientist B started fucking each other (picrel). When the black science guy was doing the experiment that exploded, the white science girl was """assisting""" him (book explicitly states that they like to do quickies whenever they have time).

So racemixing nearly doomed humanity and a white man had to clean up their mess and save the day. It's a very based movie.

>>220593479
I agree. That's why I'm making WEBM's.

german mommy singing Sign of The Times was the best scene in the film, unironically.

>>220593492
I want to punch the black guy in the face. I’m not racist

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>>220593514
*steals your entire movie by just improving a karaoke scene with a harry styles song she likes to sing with her daughter irl*
Oops! Tschuldiguuung!

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>>220593540
My favorite moment was when she was asked >You and what army
Her response?
>Because I have the U.S. Army. And that's a damn fine army.

>>220593492
how the fuck does a scientist not know the difference between 12 ng and 12 mg?

>>220593594
Because NASA hires
1) rocket scientists who know how to shoot rockets into the Atlantic Ocean
2) Graphics artists to make fake images and videos for propaganda
3) actors to pretend like they are in outer space for dumb normies like you to believe

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>Rocky is death process

>>220586446
there's no reason to believe an alien would intuit infix notation vs prefix, postfix, or some perpendicular fix we cant even dream of

>>220593594
nasa irl fucked up a rocket because they mixed up metric and imperial

>>220586446
I liked the movie and was fine with them skipping over the language stuff because there would be no book or movie without it, but there is no fucking way they could do that.
I mean, think about it. we don't even have anything that translates that well between languages on Earth with Earth languages.
If you say we do, then it 100% confirms that you don't speak another language.
You might be able to get very basic things the way you described it, you are correct the way you explained that. But they were using concepts like "could" and "would".
A lot of languages do not have 1 to 1 concepts for the same thoughts, expressions, or phrases so deciphering that would be nearly impossible for a rock person, a human and a dumb computer

>>220592416
nigga they got clocks and can travel at relativistic speeds
at some point SOMEONE is going to notice.

>>220593071
Tape measure scene.

>>220586000
no it's shit and cringe

>>220591058
it's millennial writing

>>220583004
it's the exact opposite, actually

>>220593540
harry styles and all harry styles fans should be publicly dismembered. statement.

>>220593836
someone did notice
rocky
after they arrived at tau ceti and went "woah we got here way quicker than I thought and have so much more fuel than we needed"

>>220593594
the problem was that both of those would have been given to them in a glass ampule that was the same size, and astrophage is so miniscule that that would be next to no immediately noticeable difference between the two. So when the quartermaster fucked up and gave them the wrong amount, the astronauts do not notice the mistake and allahusnackbar themselves.

You just know Stratt had that quartermaster fed to ravenous dogs.

>>220587001
HR Giger coming back from the dead would seem more alive than HR Giger before he died

>>220587001
idk if he was that spiteful

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yeah fuck you earth I have the predator of the astrophage but I'm just taking it to my rock buddies planet

>open the 4 beetles
>full of cum

>>220582068
went through the whole movie thinking it had 6 legs

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>>220594190
drew goddard is '75
thats firmly in gen X

>>220595280
are those the resident evil puppets

>>220582068
If only 13% percent, why commit half crime, question?

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>>220595322
yeah love me some puppets

>>220595383
king

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>>220593484

rocky should've stayed dead

>>220595420
whats that from looks cute

>>220583412
WE
>hand gesture indicating rocky figure plus gosling figure together
GO
>walks across room
MEDIUM
>picks up three objects from small, larger, largest, holds up not smallest not largest object
ROUGH
>shows rocky a soft cloth object and a rough object
TEXTURE
>rubs textured ramin noodles
CIRCLE
>bends length of wire into a circle
PLANET
>pantomimes a small object orbiting around a large object

>>220591830
>It would be extremely easy to kill them.
Barely an inconvenience.

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>>220593292
Looks cool. I'll watch it.
How should I get ready? What should I expect?

>>220595762
extrem reddit cringe
millennial writing
marvel humor
an insincere flick aimed at small kids

>>220595762
It's just a good wholesome film with some degree of reddit tier "hecking science". I loved it regardless, the film isnt emotianally dire, its kino

>>220595762
all films are best enjoyed going in expecting either nothing, or that it will be bad
you are always pleasantly surprised, or satisfied in your brilliant predictions
I liked it though, iirc it was fairly long so get some nice sippa

>>220586497
In the book, people assume they were fucking (they were not). In fact, Stratt reveals that she hates Grace because he's a coward.

Book Stratt also had a lot of based takes like wanting only heterosexual male astronauts to reduce conflicts during the mission etc. She also ordered the melting of glaciers in Antartica by nukes to release greenhouse gases, just to buy them some time. She's a lot more softened in the movie.

>>220596004
Book Stratt is just a man thinking how a cold hardened woman should be

She's retarded

Weir is a retarded

>>220596004
>Stratt reveals that she hates Grace because he's a coward.
this is pretty blatantly an old yeller "go on get! I hate you!" moment
stratt is an autistic german femcel treating grace like her pet, the closest she is capable of loving someone

>>220593071
Rocky building something with his xenonite soldering/knitting tools, it's in one of the montages when they're learning to communicate and Grace is recording a vlog.

And the thumbs up baby when Grace shows Rocky fishing.

>>220582732
These are all good questions and it’s hilarious to see anons pretend they don’t exist simply because they liked the movie and as such see it as an extension of their self worth.

>>220582068
Wouldn’t the energy revolution that would be caused by the astrophage discovery and practical implementation almost completely mitigate the effects of the sun’s dimming, meaning they weren’t as strapped for time as they claimed to be, and Project Hail Mary should have been called Project Let’s Make Sure We’re Adequately Prepared?

>>220596237
They bought themselves more time in all sorts of ways
Nevertheless the Hail Mary was the only thing that could end the sun's dimming, and not just delay it

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I saw both back to back pretty much
>Watney's IM SCIENCING is way more cringe than Grace's

Why?

This movie must go so hard if you have an IQ of 107

>>220595533
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx4tDiKNNJU&list=PL0US64rpKx44nQ7VxaeVIqJEklgR2AoNl

>>220595762
Christkino.

>>220596237
They were gonna lose 3.5 billion people in 20 years simply due to crop failures, and they could barely produce enough fuel for the Hail Mary. Producing the 2 million kgs of fuel needed is already an insanely huge effort in the book; they had to pave the Saharan desert to create an astrophage solar farm. Reworking the entire world's energy infrastructure to rely on astrophage in a matter of years is impossible.

Also the Hail Mary has to launch as soon as possible. Remember that it takes 12 years to go to Tau Ceti and another 12 years back. Even with the project succeeding like in the movie, there will already be billions dead.

>>220586090
>recording a log while dropping a log
Bravo Kojima.

>>220582068
This is the first genuinely heartwarming and and enjoyable movie I've seen from Hollywood in many years.
How did they let it slip through?

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>>220593492
The chapter in the book where the 2 scientists have to disclose the details of their relationship and Grace has to listen to them autistically describe sex, was hilarious

>>220596303
Lord and Miller > modern Ridley

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>>220583319
How did it happen in the book?

>>220582920
>theyre more advanced than earth in some ways but dont understand radiation. also, in the book, they dont understand relativity
I like they we have different levels of knowledge. Makes you wonder if there are aliens out there, what they know that we don't, and what we would know that they don't.
Would be cool to trade information between species.

I read the book awhile before I watched the movie and I was pretty drunk during the movie. There's some sequences of events I can't remember from either...

After they split up and start going to their home planets, how did grace figure out that the organism can escape the containment vessel, but it didn't eat all of his fuel and he had enough to go find rocky?

After he found rocky did he transfer fuel to him? Or did rocky come onto his ship and they took that back to Rocky's world?

And did I remember correctly from the book where when grace comes back rocky is like "yo what's up? Why are you here? I called my home world and I'm just waiting for a ship they're sending"

>>220596303
Martian dialogue was way too cringe. I am glad they toned it down and found a better balance with this one.

>>220596942
>how did grace figure out that the organism can escape the containment vessel, but it didn't eat all of his fuel and he had enough to go find rocky?
the containers they were breeding it in had been built by rocky, and as such were made of the same material rocky made everything out of, including his ship. grace found that the organism had eaten through the breeding containers and was able to capture it into different containers in time to prevent it eating all the fuel

>>220592446
It isn't s-supposed to b-be?!

>>220596930
>How did it happen in the book?
In the book Grace is basically the only person on the planet capable of surviving the journey and doing the scientific problem solving when he arrives, because he has the coma resistance gene.
So it's not "there's no time to train a replacement", it's more that there literally is no replacement

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Moon (2009) did it first

Reddit is that way and to the left

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>>220597494
Excuse me?

>>220596237
yes. But the movie is not about that. Astrophage is simply a plot device necessary to make relativistic travel possible with todays tech.
Realistically speaking, humans could simply farm petrova line and trivially solve the cooling issue

This movie is a live action cartoon on purpose and it's funny to see people try to dissect it. Might as well ask how wile e coyote survived falling off a cliff so many times.

>>220588121
POISON
TO
ERIDIANS

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>>220595420
check out the fuckin horrific Control game puppet show.
https://youtu.be/lhMfHjN8CZE

>>220596452
literally we

>>220597494
I really like gurdy
I like moon in general, actually
I especially like the way gurdy is designed to be expressive even without the face
I don't like how people have taken the purina joke in alien and turned it into a greeble, though

>>220582068
>says fist my bump
>later fists himself to feed
lovely gaycoded film

>>220586574
That was explained in the book. AI fucks up too much so they needed something that was hard coded and tested.

>>220587849
It makes no sense. I tried to watch this movie with my dad who is a retired Astrophysicist and Astronomer and he tore the movie apart beginning with the line "Amateur Radio Astronomer discovered a UV band" and going from there.

>>220597347
OK, so there is something inherent about him.
What about the other two who died? Did they die because they didn't have the gene, or they had a greater chance of dying?

>>220598676
What did your dad think of the astrophange and it having a predator specie that hunts it?

>>220598711
no, they have the coma resistance genes too, but it's risky tech to begin with

>>220582396
Me and my bud watch that film every year around Christmass

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>>220596051
i'm not that anon but i'll make some webms anyway

>>220598953
I wonder if that was someone dressed as rocky and wearing rock gloves doing the knitting

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>>220582833
> Barely spends 5 minutes on screen
>Still got a scene of her hooking up with a black dude
What did they mean by this?

Bros, NGL I broke down when Grace sent the beetles to Earth and decided to save his friend, then got to the ship and it seemed like Rocko was gone, I thought he was too late. You niggers should be celebrating that a heartwarming movie is a success.

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>>220593116

What's with the sexual tension between Mr. Autism and the kraut scientist? Was it intentional?

>>220582732
>We can't just fly to venus.
yeah and we can't fly to tau ceti either but they did in this movie because of the memecule maybe they used that to go to venus? open your fucking brain passages retard

>>220598755
The fact that it was water based and lived near to the sun made him check out almost immediately.
Additionally the lack of any actual propulsion apparatus in the astrophage was irritating. How did they fling themselves across the room? Or interstellar distances?
There are a bunch more but that stupid copypasta ruined my enthusiasm for typing out lists of errors.

>>220582732
>How did they get the organisms eating the sun from venus to test? We can't just fly to venus.
They launched a probe that passed through the petrova line. It might have been the same probe that took the spooky images of black dots obscuring the sun. Don't remember doesn't really matter. We're pretty good at firing probes around our solar system.

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>>220596725
>rocky with a gun
>mfw

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>>220587455
who are you talking about?

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>>220596725
I am incredibly annoyed that none of these posters show Rocky in his encounter suit.

>>220585549
>rocky tribe now have gunpowder and can subjugate red-rock tribe and take their mates amaze amaze amaze

>>220590951
C = Celsius
c = speed of light

get it right anon jesus

>>220598953
what temp does rocky need to survive?
how does clothing exist in that environment?

>>220599858
kek

>>220582068
Are you a non-cellular organism, Rocky?

>>220599621
due to space magic they do e=mc2 with energy, become morbidly obese, and then e=mc2 in reverse to rocket themselves into space

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>no time for caution as sung by the plurbs begins playing

>>220599932
Through their energy anus? Do they blast infrared? Why does it work just as well on Earth in a gravity well?

>>220582068
arrival aliens were better