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I want a faithful adaptation god dammit, not watered down Spielberg kidslop.
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I was so disappointed when I saw the movie and the dinosaurs weren't singing and dancing like in the book.
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>>220586444
Spielberg adaptation is kino and the current Zeitgeist makes it impossible for any possible faithful adaptation of this novel being made
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>>220586444
If HBO or someone else made a 1 season series faithful to the book it would be pure KINO
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>>220586444
okay anon, lets say we make the kino for you. are you ackchully gonna pay the money to see it in theaters?
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>>220586518
>the current Zeitgeist makes it impossible
why
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>>220586553
cowardice. just like why anything else is "impossible".
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>>220586553
The main plotline is about a dinosaur minstrel show starring the genetically engineered Niggosaurus Rex.
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>>220586530
HBO hasn't produced anything good in over a decade anon
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>>220586444
>Crichtonslop

Fuck that
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>>220586444
you're retarded lmao, imagine trying to monkey paw this
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>>220586444
1st movie was fine. Swapping the kids' age and roles was weird, but everything else was pretty faithful. 2nd movie is abysmal though, I want a faithful adaptation for that book.
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>>220586444
The book gets stupid towards the end, hunting the dinosaurs with rocket launchers is straight out of a bad 80s Cannon film.
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>Dr. Grant, do you, uh...do you know what they call a gay dinosaur?
>No, Malcom. But I'm sure you're going to tell me.
>They call it Mega SORE ass!
How did Chrichton get away with this?
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Even the part where they blow up a raptor with a rocket launcher?
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>>220586444
You realize, that the book was written after the screenplay?
Like the screenplay is the original version, the book is an adaptation of the screenplay.
Fucking Secondaries.
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>>220586845
Your half right, that was the case for The Lost World not the first book
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>>220586444
>I want le GRITTY and ADULT dinosaur movie!
Are you 12?
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>>220586845
https://michaelcrichton.com/works/jurassic-park/

It was always Crichton's work and the first movie came after the novel.
>>220586882
Also what this anon said.
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>>220586845
>You realize, that the book was written after the screenplay?
Based, starting with "you realize," is the *chef's kiss*
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>>220586675
It's really not though, most firearms would not be terribly effective against large dinosaurs.
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>>220586845
That's not true. At all. You're the secondary.
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>>220586882
>Your half right, that was the case for The Lost World not the first book
and it added a lot more cooler shit than the movie, i want chameleon carnotaurus
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>>220586932
>only kids can like dinosaurs
Good thing niggers like you are too dumb to be academics or we'd never know anything about them.
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>>220586530
>9 episodes of Grant digging up bones, Hammond buying up amber, Nedry typing on a computer.
>They finally go to Jurassic Park(tm) at the end of the 10th episode.
>Come back for Season 2 of Jurassic Park(tm) in 2032!
>Series cancelled two weeks later.
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>>220586444
JP 93 is not that good of a movie desu. great effects yes, but it feels like it sudedly ends.
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>>220586444
As soon as Musk gets his solar powered orbital AI data centers up and running, and we’ll be able to prompt feature length films or TV series, I’m already planning on a book-faithful 8-episode HBO-style miniseries as directed by James Cameron circa 1992. Also on the agenda:

>Freddy vs Jason vs Ash based on the comic, directed by Sam Raimi, and with Robert Englund Freddy, Kane Hodder Jason, and 90s Bruce Campbell as Ash. It’s tragic how fucking close we came to that being a reality, but it fell through because New Line didn’t want Ash to kill Freddy and Jason, even though he would clearly be the good guy in that scenario, and they would be able to shrug it off as a one-off afterward anyway.
>The Silmarillion as an anthology series in the style of Jim Henson’s Storyteller, narrated by Ian McKellen Gandalf
>A panel-for-panel faithful adaptation of Berserk with animation on the level of Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust, so it’s really fluid, but still has that 90s cel animation grit.
>The Dark Tower as a proper series. Again as a HBO style series with Viggo Mortensen as Roland, Steve from Stranger Things as Eddie, Zoe Saldana as Susannah, Rip Torn as the Crimson King, James Cromwell as Pere Callahan, and Tim Curry as Randall Flagg
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>>220586845
There was a bidding war for the movie rights, which Cameron narrowly missed out on in favor of Spielberg. I think the novel came out in 89.
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Starship Troopers is another book that needs a faithful adaptation. And I actually liked the movie, but Verhoeven was just doing his own thing which is fine. As a fan of the book as well I would like to see a proper adaptation. .
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>>220587024
People used to hunt elephants with 7mm Mauser, 5.56 would make quick work of the small ones and few dudes with .308s and shotguns would kill a T-Rex no problem considering it has big, fat, hard to miss lungs that it needs to breathe. A couple of .458 Win Mag bolt actions wouldn't be a bad idea either.
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>>220587062
One shows up as a boss in the arcade game. It was pretty badass.
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>>220586641
This. The film does a great deal to elevate the book, which is a miserable little airport novel. The main changes to a book accurate depiction would be to replace the sense of wonder with a dreary atmosphere, crank up the gore and the suffering involved in each death to exploitation genre flick levels, and make each character as unlikeable as possible. Like every character Crichton ever wrote.
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>>220587396
Uh-huh. You’re selling me on it even more.
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>>220587196
You realize we all have access to the internet here?
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>>220586444
What are the major difference? They made the girl older and less annoying. They cut the teradactly cage and put it on pt 3. They cut the boat chase and put it JW 5 .
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i dropped the book and the movie at the same time. When that cringe math guy was introduced
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>>220587674
They ignored how the velociraptor were extremely viscous and had the intelligence of pack animals but had no real hierarchy because they were just brought into the world and had nobody to discipline them and teach them. We see that when they tear apart a baby velociraptor and when Grant kills one with an egg.
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>>220587735
We really need a tv show with every death from the book
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>>220587162
my dark tower casting has tom jane as roland and walton goggins as flagg
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>>220586444
>Not posting the better novel
>And movie, despite not being anything like the novel
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>>220586518
>the current Zeitgeist makes it impossible for any possible faithful adaptation
tbf even back then Spielberg turned the girl into the computer whiz instead of the boy
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>>220587396
What empty headed little redditor babble you're spewing.
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>>220587674
The book was darker and more graphically violent. Cameron said that if he had made the movie it would have been similar to Aliens.The John Hammond character was completely different and had different motivations, he wasn't a kindly well-meaning old man in the book, he was a stereotypical evil businessman looking to make as much money as possible at any cost.There were a lot more dinosaurs. A lot of stuff was just left out due to budgetary concerns and the limits of CGI at the time.
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>>220586553
In the books, Elli Sattler is like 17-years-old, and Alan, her teacher, bangs her.
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I agree with OP. Hollywood seems set on squeezing everything they can out of this franchise, they should at least make things interesting and do a reboot that properly adapts the novel.
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>>220588007
Why is Ian Malcolm alive despite very clearly dying in the first book?
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>>220588405
His eyes were just resting okay
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>>220588405
This question isn't why, but how. The answer is retcons.
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>>220587024
Dinosaurs are just animals.
Poachers from 3rd Word shithole are very good at killing large elephants.
Do you really think that they could sustain several rocket launchers direct hits like in Dino Crisis 2 ?
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>>220588405
They just replaced him with another jew, Levine. Who was a totally based character delaying returning to the camp until he completely overlooked the Raptors sensing his candy and the actual "High Hide" being only 15ft high.
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>>220588558
Didn't Eddie also die from the raptors in the book?
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Imagine if they showed the absolute horror that is what happens to Ed Regis
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>>220586444
I just want to see humans gun down the dinos. None of this tranquilizer bs, or Hammond hearing Grant fire his shotgun over the phone. It took until Rebirth to finally get what I want when Scarlett Johansson gunned down one of the dinos with a Glock and they actually showed it with blood and everything.
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>>220588405
The likely answer is that the book deviates from the movie: Spielberg opted for different leads. In the book, the lawyer was the bad ass main character, iirc. Malcolm was a nerd and died. Movie came out and it reframed the characters for Crichton and he opted to use Malcolm as the main guy in TLW. He could retcon it to ''I was technically dead for 10 minutes'' or some shit. It was fine as a solution; not really something that had to have much detail. In the movie he survived so bringing him back for a sequel movie was not going to be an issue, storywise.
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>>220588673
Well in JP3 they do bring a bunch of guys with guns and they all just instantly die
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>>220588608
Yeah, they pulled him from the high hide.
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anyone has that /tv/ post where crichton behaves like a stereotypical jock and bully spielbierg into making jurassic park movie?
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>>220588405
Life finds a way
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>>220586444
No.

We don't need Book Lex. NOBODY needs Book Lex.
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>>220586845
bullshit
kill yourself,you walking turd loser
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>>220586882
No the screenplay was written before the book. The book was released before the movie. But the screenplay came first.
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>>220588007
The movie is 75% great, San Diego was just retarded and silly. Should have ended on the island.
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>>220586530
Well the dinos are already trannies but now they'll also be black
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>>220586444

lex in the book is annoying as fuck

whenever she says "play some pickle" i cringe
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>>220589376
Julianne Moore and Vince Vaughn were horrible casting choices. Also ignoring the black gymnast daughter. The only good parts in the 2nd movie were the 2 Trex pushing the RV scene. The Dino capture chase and the San Diego rampage. Any part with the main cast just sucked.
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>>220587724
He’s so much worse in the book. He gets to talk directly at the reader for entire pages on end, acting as the direct mouthpiece for the author, bizarre out of place Japanophilia and all. It’s difficult to slog through.
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>>220586444
The most interesting part about the book, in my opinion, was where they talked about biochem start-ups setting up shop in impoverished countries because they can buy out governments. In the US, that's basically West Virginia.
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>>220586618
I liked the leftovers and that comes in at right about a decade
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>>220588203
I think the movie really improves the kids. Book Timmy is like this super genius who solves everything, and Lex is basically just an annoying screaming baby the entire time. Although one of my favorite parts of the books is the fake out of Lex getting eaten during the T-Rex attack. that shit was stomach-curling the first time I read it.
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>>220589625
I liked Crichton's mouthpiece though
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>>220590370
>the fake out of Lex getting eaten during the T-Rex attack
I don't remember this at all. I do remember the waterfall scene though.
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>>220586951
>It was always Crichton's work and the first movie came after the novel.
Spielberg actually heard about the book at a party, and bought the film rights off Chrichton before he was done writing the script (which is a big reason why the endings diverge so much).
I think the book and the movie are both great, and over the sequels they've tried to repurpose a lot of unused stuff from the first book.
Unfortunately my favorite part of the book, Muldoon and Genaro broing it up as they drive around the park trying to wrangle dinosaurs back into their paddock and look for survivors.
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>>220588544
well in real life...
an RPG-7 does 6d6 damage (AOE) (Reflex save for half)
a Tyrannosaurus Rex has 18d8+99 hit points.

so yes it would most likely take multiple rockets to take down a t rex.
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>>220590450
It's from Grant's perspective in the other car. Lex is screaming in the middle of the road, T-Rex bends down to bite at something, the screaming stops, and the T-Rex is chewing on something, but because of the rain Grant can't see exactly what it is. Heavily implied that it's Lex, but still ambiguous enough. Then the chapter ends and we switch over to the visitor center. We find out like a chapter later that she's ok.
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>>220588641
its so satisfying in the book
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>>220586444
The book is fucking lame.
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>>220590370
Lex was so annoying

Little brat in need of correction

Uohhhh
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>>220588673
>I just want to see humans gun down the dinos. None of this tranquilizer bs
That's a plot point in the book. Muldoon demanded that they have some heavier weapons, he was told to fuck off because each one of those dinosaurs was worth tens of millions of dollars.
The compromise was they gave him that bartoli shotgun, and a missile launcher that could shoot tranquilizer rockets.
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>>220590520
Guess I'll need to re-read. Would have been based if Lex died. She was overly annoying in the book.
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>>220590494
It's been a long time since I read it, but don't they actually get the park back online and everything wrapped up fairly efficiently after Nedry's sabotage? But then realize everything is running on backup power about 10 minutes before it goes out a day or so later and all hell breaks loose.
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>>220589376
You can nevwr say that when fucking Ian and Sarah exist and just get away with killing dozens of men.
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>>220590767
lol yes, it's great. If I remember correctly, it actually makes things worse than Nedry's sabotage because more systems go down.
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>>220590767
Yeah, they didn't realize they needed to reboot the power system because they never had to do it before.
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>>220586444
The Lost world was the better book and the 2nd movie follows it closer except for that bastardized ending.
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>>220590526
He did nothing wrong though
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>>220586482
Kek
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>>220586843
ESPECIALLY that part.
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>>220590834
>and the 2nd movie follows it closer
Kek
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>>220590767
Some workmen find what's left of Nedry when they're out fixing the fences too. It's a little bit of a plot point because he stole the Jeep with the rocket launcher stashed in it and they can't bring down the T. rex without it.
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>>220589580
This. 70 percent of the movie was annoying people shouting over each other in the woods. One thing I always liked about Spielberg was how the delivery of dialogue feels natural and like it's being spoken by real people, but he just really whiffed it with that one. Everyone is obnoxious as hell in that movie, and Jeff Goldblum is basically a bobble headed Pez dispenser who would occasionally tilt his head back, and a trailer line would come out of his neck hole.

>"Mommy is very angry."

Shut the fuck up. Picture a scenario where you're trapped in your car, and there is a grizzly bear trying to get in. Are you going to be saying some corny shit like that? Fuck no, you'd probably either be screaming in horror or frozen stiff with terror not knowing what to do.
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>>220587024
What is .577 Tyrannosaur?
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>>220587024
These things would shoot clean through an elephant, front to back. tf rexy gonna do?
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>>220591102
This dude fucks a t-rex up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pf6E8yjMAI
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>>220588558
>They just replaced him with another jew, Levine
Levine is Indian anon
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>>220588251
>17
she's a grad student you fucking tard
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>>220586482
lmao
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>>220591280
>So we have this white lawyer, let's call him Mr Bergstein...
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>>220586553
we wuz dinosaurs and sheeit
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>>220590981
I hated how in the movies Malcolm is treated as badass with wit when he's like 1:1 to the book Malcolm who dies because he's so shoved up his own ass he went into the dino park just to prove his mathematical theory right, only to die with everyone happy he's not bitching anymore
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>>220590767
They throught they fixed it but didn't realize the park was on emergency power after the reset and things go wrong again they had to to the shed that was near the raptors for some reason
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>>220586553
Dinosaurs have feathers now
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>>220586641
>>220587396
Still mad he blew out your climate grift I see.
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>>220588558
The high hide was so kino. If it was somehow 25 to 30 feet up what dinos could have threatened them?
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>>220592895
>okay, no dinosaurs can get us up here
>SCRAAAAAW!
>...
>...
>I didn't say anything about pterosaurs
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>>220586444
the story of the book is a shitty action flick
the movie is billions of times better
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>>220588405
Because people loved Jeff Goldblum in the role and the sequel book would become a film. It is the only reason
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Reparations for my spinobros
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>>220586444
Such a white franchise. We'll have to change that.
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>>220595509
The cartoon has you covered, sister.
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There are probably more deaths in the book than in the movie but it never felt as threatening to me. Maybe because all the InGen staff is still on the island and they restore order like halfway through the book.
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>>220586641
I understood this reference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6fERYC5xDk
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one of the most overrated movies of all time
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>>220586444
Most of the changes were improvements. The way Hammond dies is stupid and the entire ending is shit. As is the whole tracking system shenanigans.
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Eaters of the Dead/The 13th Warrior would have more remake potential
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>>220596984
It's just a masterpiece
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>>220587735
>They ignored how the velociraptor were extremely viscous
Guess they hatched from runny eggs
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>>220588673
My pitch for a Jurassic Park/World movie
>Opens with regular looking day in city
>SUDDERNLY EXPLOSION!
>Wounded people stager out of the building as people rush to help them
>Shortly after the people who rushed to help them start coughing up blood
>Cut to 18 months later
>Exposition: opening scene was a terrorist attack that included biological weapons
>Elite military team is assembled because it's been discovered terrorists have taken over an old InGen facility on Isla Sorna and are working on some sort of doomsday virus
>Not only are they surrounded by dinos, but they've also breed and trained a species of raptor to work like guard/attack dogs
>For whatever reason they can't just nuke the island and instead have to send a bunch of heavily armed soldiers in
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>>220586444
John Hammond being killed by compsognathus was pure kino.
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>>220597348
he really served that one up to you on a plate
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How would they get away with the compys eating a fucking baby at the beginning?
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>>220599196
probably the greatest song ever written tbch hth bbl
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>>220599277
And it's a nice song for a movie where people get torn apart by animals
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>>220586444
Me too!
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>>220586444
The book sucks.
It only ever go made into a much better movie because it had a good premise
If you need more priof why Mike is a shit writer, look at Twister.
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>>220599323
Who didn't laugh at Nedry's demise
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>>220586444
>no good JP adaptation
>no good Carnosaur adaptation
>only dinosaur horror kino we have is fucking Primitive War written by a child
We got fucking screwed
>>220587024
I've long theorized an AKM would chew up a rex. I'd prefer .308 like a FAL, but you just need to penetrate bone and flesh mass to hit internals and people hunt elephants with AKs even if it is sloppy.
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>>220599382
the book is great I love how alien the dinosaurs are they are terrifying
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>>220599429
Man the Carnosaur scene from JP2 book was great. I wish he leaned even more into the horror aspects
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>chapters and chapters of Regis being toyed with by a baby T-Rex

Fucking horrifying
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>>220586444
The only problem is Lex will be annoying as fuck
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The only thing the book did better was show how the dinosaurs had started escaping before Alan and co. ever set a foot on the island, as they were already showing up in Puerto Rico. But in the movie it does work way better that you only show the dinosaurs at the park
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>>220597027
>The way Hammond dies is stupid and the entire ending is shit. As is the whole tracking system shenanigans.
Hammond's death was kino irony and the tracking system situation emphasizes the human hubris angle.
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>>220597027
>The way Hammond dies is stupid and the entire ending is shit. As is the whole tracking system shenanigans.
Hammond's death was kino irony and the tracking system emphasized the point of human hubris thinking we can just use technology for every problem
>>220595558
>they restore order like halfway through the book.
They literally realize there's a metric fuckton of unaccounted for raptors because of their arrogance and have to napalm the island to stop them from getting onto the mainland and causing an ecological disaster
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>>220599688
Seeing the raptors act more feral would have been neat. It was implied in the first book that the raptors were so unhinged because there weren't any adults around to teach them how to behave like normal raptors.
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>>220588203
it was a smart move. her only purpose in the book was to be useless and annoying



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