it's morphin time
does the TV series hold up?
>>220588023sex with Rachel when she’s in the evil clawed form Crayak lets her use
>>220588042It wasn't that great to begin with.
>According to series co-author Michael Grant, he and Katherine Applegate were paid $100,000 per book. The ghostwriters were paid $10,000, per book; the market rate for ghostwriters at the time was $5,000, which he and Katherine doubled as they used to be ghostwriters themselves.Based
>>22058811754 books iirc - $5.4M in 90s money ain’t bad
>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLH__5dktuLHyjKk1tGZBesEva1kAILYNq
>>220588023>the ability to shapeshift into your enemy would be a priceless skill to have in a war>character only morphs into another human once in the entire series and never does it again
>>220588023What the fuck is the guy in blue turning into? The others are normal animals.
>>220588753The good guy aliens are blue centaurs with snail eyes and blade tails. The bad guys are brain slugs. One of the 6 hero kids is from the blue alien race . He has a human form to blend in but sometimes fights in his base form
>>220588704stupid Cassie and her ethics
>>220588023>Its a Jake murders 500 people with pipe bombs then busts in Cassie's jungle pussy after eating pizza episode
>>220588862I loved that Visser 1 figured out that the Animorphs were humans because only Ax fought as an Andalite and was the only one that called the Yeerks niggerslugs as soon as he saw them.
>>220588704>>220589004Imagine if in transformers the autobots arrived on earth and refused to transform into vehicles kek
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>>220588117So it's OK if Applegate uses ghost writers but if R.L. Stine does its a big lawsuit that fucks the brand for years?
I'm shocked there hasn't been another attempt at a tv series
>>220588023They are publishing a comic book version now and the art looks like shit.
>>220589212To be fair, the series was only really relevant enough to warrant a TV show during a brief period of time in the 90s. That said, do zoomers like it now? It always seems like people in these threads have a pretty good handle on the plot, to the point that I have to assume they've engaged with the series more recently than having read or watched some of it 25+ years ago.
>>220589201(((Stine))) tried to stiff his ghostwriters. However you may feel about Applegate not giving the ghost wagies any credit at least they got paid. Lets also not forget they got paid handsomely to write 200 pages of double spaced Times New Roman 20.
>>220589078Visser 3 is kind of an idiot but in a realistic way.He clearly isn't taking his assignment that seriously.
>>220589349The question is why would Scholastic sue him for that?
>>220589344Im going to make a shocking statement and posit that the Animorphs fanbase is the same weird millenials that loved the books when they first dropped in the late 90s.
>That book where Tobias went full feral and banged a female hawk>That book where they turn into ants, almost experience ego death, and get torn to shreds by other ants>That book where Jake gets brain slugged and they chain him to a chair while the brain slug slowly and excruciatingly starves to death while Jake feels it dying
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>>220589424WtfLook at how they massacred my psycho hebe gymnast yenta.
>>220589395>That book where Rachael gets chopped in half as a starfish morph and morphs back into two different Rachaels.
>>220589493Oh shit did that actually happen?Didn't have that one at the library that sounds neat
>>220589424You just know.
>>220589517She got chopped in half asymmetrically so one Rachael is kind of small and weepy and the other one is butch and aggressive.I forget how the fixed it.
>>220589349>However you may feel about Applegate not giving the ghost wagies any credit at least they got paidThe majority of Animorphs ghost writers actually get a credit on the first page. Except for one time the editor fucked up and credited the ghost writer of the previous installment.
>>220589078If you are not a complete retard you could also note the lack of human infiltrators and fucking alien animals, from of which a green beret team of andalites could use every now and then, and not like, literally the animals in the local zoo 1:1
>>220588023>publish a book under your name>"akshually someone else wrote it tho"How is this not fraud?
>>220589349>>220589602>>220589906I know a ghostwriter and they literally don't careThey actually advertise as ghostwriters "I'll write for you and I give you the credit"Some people think ghostwriters are like entry level position in the writing world and you climb up from there to be an "actual writer"They are notGhostwriters are best understood as art forgery in painting, it's kinda like thatThey take their dopamine from you not noticing it's their words and thinking it's a renewed artist's words, in a way their aspirations are higherThey don't want to be stephen king's competition. They want to feel like they are as good as stephen king, that you can barely notice it's not stephen king.
>>220589933Neato. I wonder how you get that job. Same as all the article writers in velvet and club magazines.
>>220589933If you're a freelance ghostwriter, I would imagine that a lot of the skill comes from recognizing your own idiosyncrasies and stamping them out, plus being able to quickly analyze and then mimic the writing style of whichever writer you're currently ghostwriting.
>>220590058Literally advertise like I said in facebook and instagram and every social media you can think offEventually you'll land a ghostwriting job for small self published authors, and with that you can take it to big publishers as a resumeBut you have to wear black and only come out at nightBecause it's like the path of a writer, but in the shadows.
>>220589058Nice
>>220589212>I'm shocked there hasn't been another attempt at a tv seriesDidn't they just announce a new attempt?
>>220589374>The question is why would Scholastic sue him for that?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFtaQlJKk8Y
>>220589493>morphs back into two different RachaelsI'm OK with this
>>220589906>How is this not fraud?To be fair, every politician does it
>>220589573That sounds super gay and something I would abuse>If you split in different sizes that means some mass is conserved>You could split into 5-6, be all smalls>Small people gain muscle a lot faster than bigger people>Put myself to hypertrophy>Get 5 me jacked as fuck>Morph into one again>As some mass is conserved, I'll be probably 1.X more bigger than if I trained on my normal bodyI don't know if I'll be 2x bigger, but surely 1.X bigger
>>220589374The scholastic thing wasn't specifically about ghostwriters. There is that one thing from it where he admitted to using ghostwriters to come up with outlines that gets turned into it being the entire lawsuit. That said, no way he was popping out something monthly without help.
the best one
>>220588704It's too dangerous psychologically. The person you morph into would have a consciousness as strong as yours. You would think you were that person, and demorphing would "kill" "you", and you would strongly want to stay in that body to continue living.The more alien the consciousness, the easier it is to keep your human mind intact.
>>220590466Morphs into a sea star lol must be fire at bedThat aside, what type of plots can this animal really allow for?
>>220589493Ah humm ... mkay
>>220590737You could carry her in your pocket.
>>220590737Spying from the side of a boat or conveniently nefarious aquarium?
>>220589933>>220590134so they can't claim credit on the book cover (which i understand, not everyone even wants to be famous/recognised).can they put it ON their résumé, though? would a publisher confirm your friend secretly wrote <book> by <someone else>, if asked for a reference?
>>220590593I really like the way you think
>>220590888Ghostwriting is a real thingIt's not a "i have a chink in my basement writing for me" "it's for my friend" thingThe public doesn't know, the publisher absolutely has to know to pay you if you are a ghostwriter, dumbfuckIf you, the author, are paying out of pocket to a ghostwriter to do the job for you and you submit it as your own and your publisher doesn't know and nobody knows, you are literally commiting a crime, it's called having an illegal worker
>>220590670Shitty headcanon faggot
I remember these books being super fucking boring and pretending to read them because I had no idea what was going on. Is there an actual coherent plot in any of these or is it supposed to just have a cool cover and talk about morphing into animals or some shit.
>>220590670Not true, you could morph into a Marco post living with his powers, and there's no indication that his memories or conciousness wouldn't take the fact that it's being inhabited by a friend morphing as him into account.So if you morph into a battle friend, they know who you are, and what are you doing.This is more real than your headcanon.
>>220591119There is a plot, but it's a young adults series, it's not very deep.They grew on me when I started reading them as standalone episodes rather than one big plot, because at the time I was also watching TNG.So every book is like an "episode" with the cast, with loose continuity, as every book skips days, or weeks between them.When you read it like that it's healty fun
>>220591005think you misread my post, anon. i'm not disputing the existence of ghostwriters (my first paragraph was earnest/agreeing).my question is whether PROFESSIONALLY you can use your work experience e.g. to gain future work, "yeah John wrote that one, 10/10 ghostwriter, pleasure to work with", or is it just agreed you've done the commission and then it's off the record forever?
>>220590888it happens in music too, it's called white label music production. Kpop got popular because they started using the same swedish music producers that americans use.Lido and Cashmere Cat have produced a lot of bug time stars, some with small credits sometimes white labeling
>To bypass security and enter the Yeerk Pool, members would walk up to the counter and order a Happy Meal "with extra happy". The cashier would then guide the Controller to the back room, which concealed a transport tube.Anyone try this?
>>220588117No wonder they churned out over 50 of these
>>220591119>Pretending to read them means I don't know what the book is aboutDamn that's crazyAnyways it's about brain slugs infiltrating humanity to help them in an intergalactic war with shapeshiftersOne of the shapeshifters dies after crashing on Earth, telling the main kids about the invasion, and giving them shapeshifting powersRest of the series is about the kids stopping the brain slugs from doing shitIt ends with one of the kids murdering a shitload of brain slugs and stopping the war
>>220591215What does the person behind them in line think? That it's code for a behind-the-dumpster blowjob?
>>220591182How could be off the record brother if you are a paid employeeYou work FOR the publisherYou are not an author's shadow, living under his bed, and eating the author's food, sometimes creeping on the author's wife when she's taking a bath. And the wife sometimes would say "John... is that you?" because she heard a noise, and she turns around and it's you, his ghostwriter, who looks like John the Author... but not quite. Small details are off.. the mole is in the wrong place... the left eye twitches a bit... no words come out of the ghostwriter. Just a loud "SKEEE" an the wife recoils as you, John's ghostwriter, walk backwards, staring at the wife, while crawling backwards under the bed.And the wife stands by the bed, then says to noone in particular "P-please don't do that... we pay you to be a ghostwriter, not a pervert! T-that's the gardner José..."You are en employee like in any other job and your boss knows you exist, and if you want to change companies they can call your ex-boss to confirm you worked there like in any other job
>>220588023I always thought Tobias was a gay name when I tried to read these in elementary school. The covers were cool but the actual stories and writing were terrible
>>220591194it's pretty common knowledge that e.g. female pop stars don't write the music. but it was funny seeing Andrew W.K. avoid all the Steev Mike questions in his Q&A thread on /mu/.tbqh the writing/publishing industry seems relatively pure. where else could you get away with creating porn, and nobody gives a shit if it was you using a pseudonym?
>>220589201Wait til you hear that pop stars like Beyonce and JLo use ghost singers on their records
>>220588023I think I've read around 13-15 of these from a school library.Although I was kinda checking out at the timeloop or the one about race of aliens turned dogs with their pacifist killer androids. It was getting real dumb with these...Although can't lie, the book with Jake taken over by a Yeerk must've been one of the pillars of my possession fetish even though it's enitirely FtF for me.
>>220589344Zoomers can't even read bro
>>220591353Tobias was such a bizzare character. Wasn't he revealed some long lost alien son and also he reclaimed his human form as a morph by time traveling
>>220591319look anon, it was a simple question out of idle curiosity. it's a niche job, i am ignorant, mea culpa.now are you going to write the John x wife x José threesome ending we all want, or not?
>>220589201Stein is a Jew, so I assume he screwed them out of money.
>>220591440I dropped Stein when I learned he didn't believe in ghosts.
>>220591426LookIf John is paying for a pervert, it's obvious he is not getting involved in the sexOtherwise he would just pay for a swinger.But he paid for a pervert.The BEST part of the ntr, is that John the Ghostwriter is madly in love with the wife, and he definitely won't fuck her... but José's payment comes from John the Ghostwriter's work.The ghostwriter is literally working hard, so another men can pay for a pervert to have fun with the women he loves.
>>220591423I dunno. I read a quarter of one animorphs book and couldn't stand readimg his name so dropped it. I don't think i missed out on much.I saw a YouTube about how the series is an allegory for child soldiers suffering from ptsd. Zzzzzzz
>>220591496You might be unfit for reading in general if you get bored by seeing a name you don't like
>>220588023I still call him Jake in every role I see him in.
>>220591550I had a good instinct to avoid this shitty series and I'm glad- it was 50+ books of nothing. I read shit like Animal Farm, Fahrenheit 451, War and Peace, to kill a mockingbird, lord of the rings, the Master and Margarita and a day in the life of Ivan denisovic instead. I also read Harry Potter. Retroactively, I'm happy with the decision my 9 year old self made abandoning the Animorph series as early as I did.
>Jake was once what it's like to flush thousands of people into the vacuum of space>Jake replied that he wouldn't know, he's only killed Yeerks
>>220588166>Casually buys 25 propertiesI hate boomers so much its unreal
>>220591219She wrote the first couple of dozen all by herself. Which is fucking insane, since they published a new one almost every month, and sometimes 2 books in 1 month. But I guess since she was used to getting paid 5 grand a book to ghostwrite for someone else, she must've had to churn out several books a year just to make ends meet and gotten it down to a comfortable routine.
>>220590670that isnt how it works at all, no minds are shared. that isnt even coherent. the one with the ant morph shows brain complexity is irrelevant its all about the animals behavioural nature
>morph into venomous spider>kill every visser in a few days>morph into elephant>strap machine guns to back
>>220592445Don't you only have a short time, before having to morph back? Also, don't you have to have physical contact with an animal before being able to morph into it in the future? I remember there being various restrictions...
>>220590670Isn't it more about the animal's instincts rather than consciousness? They often "allowed" the animal instincts to overtake their own conscious thoughts when they needed to do something they couldn't figure out consciously - so presumably morphing into another human would be the easiest of all mentally speaking; they're only acquiring their DNA, not their memoriesI think my favourite part of the books was when they gave morphing powers to the disabled kids and some of them healed from it since they weren't genetically disabled and they had to continue pretending to be
>>220592553morph time is an hour i think but its a small price to pay to stop a alien invasion and you could always steal a human form, even one of the vissers for convenienceand yes they need to steal the dna or whatever by touch before hand but iiec it saves to them so its not like they need to do it each time
>>220588042It was meh. Low budget and kid friendly. It wanted to be cheap yet high concept zaboomafoo meets degrassi for cool kids instead of being about ultraviolent paranoid schizoterrorism, which was what Applegate intended.These companies are always gayging interest on a platter of IP's. Someday Animorphs will be the best call and they will do a more mature and well supported version of it, and if that does well, I might see a REMNANTS series done in-spirit before I die violently in some animal related mishap as I know deep down I will.
I regularly thing of tigers and aliens disembowling each other and shit lol thanks mrs applegate for being one cool ass bitch
>>220591640You're a midwit
