Why did he call him Darth?
He was addressing him by his title, like you would a Captain or Lieutenant
>>220601285Darth is a name, not a title
His name is Darth Vader
>>220601263Because Lucas hadn't decided to adress every sith lord with Darth yet so it was unique to Darth Vader.
>>220601285the sith have the title of lord, and the forename darth.>>220601324winner winner chicken dinner
Subtle diss
>>220601345this>>220601285not thiswhen new hope came out the character's first name was Darth then it was retconned to be the title for all Sith
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>>220601263>>220601374 i bet you feel terribly clever pointing this out. meanwhile you are poor and lucas sold your childhood to white slavers
>Srth Turranus>Darth Maul>Darth SidiousAmazing how all these dark side wayos are named the same thing
>>220601263Because that's his Sith name. All Sith are named Darth:>"With the forename Darth, a Sith he must be." - Yoda, Attack of the Clones script
>>220601411what's this? a star wars fan who does his research?
>>220601403Darth is the Sith's Muhammad
>>220601411>with a name like Jamal, arrested he must be
>>220601411/threadWhen 4chan is more informative and accurate than wokeieepedia
>>220601396thank you for your reply abdul
>>220601471kek
>>220601263Originally it was his name, but that was retconned a gazillion years ago. It still works however as a sarcastic condescending snub. Here is his idiot disciple, never made became a master Jedi, calling himself a Sith Master now after selling out all his friends.
>>220601560>wokeieepediakek
>>220601532>with the foreskin gone, a jew he must be
>>220601263How would Obi-Wan have fared against Darth Icky?
>>220601586>Here is his idiot disciple, never made became a master Jedi, calling himself a Sith Master now after selling out all his friends.that would be great if the line about Obi-WAAAN becoming "more powerful than you can imagine" or whatever had actually come to fruition in whatever way Lucas originally envisioned that was probably more significant than being a fully sentient ghostbecause now it's the equivalent of killing someone and them saying>I'm going to heaven thoright before they die
>>220601263Because it was written at a time when George didn't fully made up the lore.
>>220601263>strike me down and I shall become more powerful th-ACK!!!!
>>220601672Lucas did make up the lore and he's been consistent with it. It's the fans and EU authors who didn't pay attention to what he establishedThe joke is on them
>>220601700>Lucas did make up the lore and he's been consistent with it.No, he made lore about the whills and a lot of shit that ended up being in that rock music fairy he made, none of which made it into Star Wars due to budgetary and time constraints, thankfully
>>220601263He killed those younglings
>>220602170you shouldn'ta done that darth
>>220601263obiwan respected the lawanakin legally changed his name to "darth vader" on his speeder license in -12 BBY
>>220601263If a character referred to Count Dracula as Count, would you make a thread asking why?
>>220601263Because that's what he was called
>>220601263His name was literally Darth Vader back then, and Anakin Skywalker was a different character, actually killed by Vader, not just metaphorically. Lucas invented Darth as a Sith code name later on with Darth Sidious.
>>220601263Darth is ancient Sith for victory so he's actually complimenting him
Jeet also means victory
>>220601700>>220601793We need someone to protect the lore of the sacred jedi texts, I will not stand for the flanderization of glup shitto
>>220601263Originally it’s neo English Combination of Dutch and German It means dark father roughly >>220601345It’s in scenes in the movie that were taken lot In the final script and form it means dark fatherDarth was a title from the first movie There was always a plan where they might make h Luke’s father but they were sure yet around new hope.
>>220601623His power and the power of the Jedi lived on through Luke, and Obi-Wan directly played into that by training Luke with Yoda. That's how I always took it. He didn't become more powerful by directly wielding power, but by wielding influence in such a way that would become Darth's undoing.
>>220602221Count is a title, unlike Darth
>>220602221I have done so in the past
>>220602383I'm pretty sure the Sith understood Darth to be a title. In Darth Bane's day, they abolished calling anyone as Darth because the Sith Brotherhood viewed each other as equals. Darth was a title which implied superiority. Darth Bane correctly recognized that as very gay and killed them all with a bomb, then established the Rule of Two and they started calling each other Darth again.
>>220601793>the creator is wronggo to bed mike
>>220602450>I'm pretty sure the Sith understood Darth to be a titleNo, Lord is the title of the Sith. Darth is the forename of a Sith. The guy who invented the Sith and the word Darth said so. It's not complicated.Nobody cares about glup shitto fan fiction
>>220601411Cool TIL
>>220602539You may have a point there, since "Sith Lord" is a shortened version of "Dark Lord of the Sith." They may have two different titles.I personally enjoy the EU stuff more than the movies so that's what I'm going by. You don't have to like it but many people do.
>>220602325>>220601324>>220601263there's no way Lucas planned shit out as thoroughly as he claims. Even if you exclude all of the shit that makes no sense retroactively due to the prequals, he has Luke and Leah make out and then he added the>no there is another line to empire and then he didn't want to pay it off so he just decided Luke and Leah were twins.
>>220601700he didn't finalize nearly as much shit as he says he had finalized back when he wrote the first film. >Luke and Leah make out>also they are twins>also Chewie is friend with Yoda and never mentions it
>>220602611>there's no way Lucas planned shit out as thoroughly as he claims>>220602711>he didn't finalize nearly as much shitmoving the goal posts now? we're talking about Darth being a name. which it is and always has been
>>220602855It seems weird for an order to have its members all adopt the same forename. You'd think they'd all have the same last name.
>>220602855I'm not moving the goal post. I'm saying that Lucas had an overarching idea and then changed a bunch of shit as he went along and then pretends >no I wrote everything in 1970 and never changed anythingthe fucking ewaks are another example. they were wookies in the script and then he rewrote a lot of jedi so he could sell more toys to kids because he was making way more money on the merch.
>>220602574>You may have a point there, since "Sith Lord" is a shortened version of "Dark Lord of the Sith." They may have two different titlesIt's the same title. Sith Lord, Lord of the Sith, Dark Lord of the Sith, is all the same thing. Their title is Lord and their forename is Darth.
It’s not Annie anymore, it’s Darth. Darth-Accino
>>220602912>>no I wrote everything in 1970 and never changed anythingyou're the one pretending he ever said that. but then again, you type 'leah' so it makes sense that you're only able to make up stuff
>>220602930ok mr autismo you win. congratulations.
>>220601263respect sith pronouns CHUD
>>220601263Originally, Ben was trolling him by speaking to him on a first name basis Retcon, he’s trolling him by sarcastically using his big evil guy titleThe point is that Obi-Wan is always trolling him because he knows what’s coming next.
>>220602985does anyone remember CHAD VADER https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL528026B4F7B34094
>>220602611>there's no way Lucas planned shit out as thoroughly as he claims.He had big grand ideas, but constantly had to change things. He never wanted guns in the movie at all. He wanted everyone to use light sabers and shields. That was deemed impossible in 1977, so, guns. I do wonder if he planned Darth Vader to be Luke's dad the entire time. Cause the name is similar to Dark Father. Or if Lucas fell into it like most things. >>no there is another This was Nellith Skywalker, Leigh Bracket invented her for her draft of ESB and Lucas kept it in after she passed away.....and then never added the character and just made it Leia.
>>220603031>He never wanted guns in the movie at all. He wanted everyone to use light sabers and shields. That was deemed impossible in 1977, so, gunsstop making shit up, anon
>>220602912Would've been kino to have the final fight together with Chewie's mates instead of random furry bears.
Darth is a bit like saying dark with a speech impediment.
Please show me the 50 page wookiepedia essay confirming this, otherwise everything posted in this thread is entirely and completely invalid, snort
>>220603070This is a pretty well known fact and yet another thing Lucas was ripping off from Dune, that the fights were hand to hand combat.
>>220602969I think leah is the jew way to spell it. I had a friend who was named leah and that's how she spelled it >>220603031this, exactly
>>220603149I don't think that's dune so much as Lucas was ripping off samauri movies and sword and sorcery shit and then set it in space.
>>220603131Seems like that would come out as "daath"
>>220602170They were armed, they were valid targetsAlso using child soldiers isn't very moral.Light Side my ass.
>>220603149>Dune invented melee weapon fightsYou're genuinely retarded
>>220603132based
>>220603182OK sure, a combination. Dunes whole thing though is knife fights and no guns. Flash Gordon also featured a lot of sword fights.
>>220602325>it means dark fatherNo it doesn’t and the retards who parrot this shit don’t know Dutch. Lucas came up with Vader from the word invader just like Sidious later came from insidious.
>>220603202>star wars doesn't ape dunethis guy
>>220601285>"WHAT THE HELL? ARE YOU INSANE? YOU CAN'T TAKE HER ROYAL HIGHNESS TO TATOOINE! THE HUTTS ARE NIGGERS!">"Captain... please keep calm. The Hutts are not looking for her, which gives us the advantage">"FINE BUT I STILL DON'T AGREE ABOUT WITH THIS FAMBA SHIT, MASTER!"This. Titles are everything
>>220603218Where did he get Icky from?
>>220601263Darth means victory.
>>220602248You get one kek
>>220603218Weet ik.
>>220601324In this movie, as in when it was first made, yes. It later became a title. We all know this, why are we all going to argue about this gay bullshit
>>220601471>2026>The most common name of children born on Dantooine is DarthBut tell me we don’t have a problem
>>220603350he has a developmental disability, please understand
>>220603031Dark Invader. Dark Father was a happy accident
>>220603218ik sneed dood
Regardless of it being a name or title, it's still appropriate to call him that?
>No one gives a shit, faggot. Kill yourself
>>220603320>only a master of street-shitting, jeet.
>>220601324Why? Because his dad liked to play darts or somethign?
>>220602191I know nobody else gave you your (You) but this made me smile for less than a full second
>>220601324>>220601342>Darth Vader>Darth Plagueis>Darth Sidious>Darth MaulWhen you become a Sith you get adopted into the Darth family? Must be japanese name order.
>>220601385He's right, retard.Darth was just a name. And he wasn't a "sith". He was just a governor of a planet. A minor character. Read the "script" George wrote. It's a mess. George was fucking terrible at his "job" and Star Wars was transformed into a functioning film by other people.>>220602611We don't even need to guess. We ***have the scripts***. He didn't plan ANY of this out.
I seriously want every fucking /tv/nigger that thinks they know shit about Star Wars but hasn't read the fucking scripts to be beheaded.>DARTH VADERA weaselly, sniveling imperial general. Serves under his boss, Governor Hoedaak.>ANNIKIN STARKILLERThe hero, a Jedi Bendu in training. His little brother Deak is killed by a sith "black knight" in the first act, who is the himself killed by Kane.>KANE STARKILLERThe hero's father. A Jedi Bendu Master who is too old to teach his son any longer.>LUKE SKYWALKERA silver-bearded warrior general of the Aquilae court whom Kane asks to take over Annikin's training>GRANDE MOUFF TARKINThe High Priest of Aquilae's religion. "Mouff" is a religious title. Has exactly one line.>HAN SOLOA huge green skinned monster with no nose and large gills.>CHEWIEA 16-year old "hot shot" pilot.>CHEWBACCA (yes, a separate character)Prince of the Wookees, rescues Annikin. Basically George's attempt to have "jungle savages" in the film.>OWEN LARSAn anthropologist studying Wookees.>PRINCE VALORUM"Dark Knight of the Sith", in "black and chrome armor". Gets demoted to mere stormtrooper rank after he fails in catching Starkiller. Later befriends Starkiller and has a face turn, muh "warrior honor" etc.Pretty much the one and only character that is exactly the same is Threepio. Artoo, while described as a "tripod", banters sarcastically in english with him constantly. There are also a TON of other MAJOR characters that were completely deleted. The original script was barely the Annikin show, he had way less screentime than you'd expect... because the script was a mess with tons and tons of irrelevant characters talking.
>>220604442it was all worth it
The king's old library has been converted into an office forGeneral Vader. He is sitting behind his desk as Prince Valorum,the black knight of Sith, enters and salutes. The black knightis dressed in the fascist black and chrome uniform of thelegendary Sith One Hundred. The general returns his salute.VADERWelcome, Prince Valorum. Your exploits arelegendary. I have long waited to meet aKnight of the Sith. If there is any way Ican assist you, my entire command is at yourbidding.VALORUMI want a tie-in to your computer network, acontrol center, and communication access.VADERRight away! I'll also transfer all informationwe have on the general. His command post wasself-destroyed, but we believe he is still alive..... Do you really believe he's a Jedi?VALORUMIf he was not a Jedi, I wouldn't be here.
Darth is short for Dart, a name that you call the fastest man on the ship, unless it's an ocean vessel, in which case he is known as Dive.
What's really amazing is you can tell how much George was rankled by his crappy script getting tossed and tried to wedge them verbatim back into the prequels. Here's what probably became Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan getting gassed in TPM (There is no character named Obi-Wan Kenobi in the original script):The captain moves out of the shadows, and is revealed tobe Valorum, First Knight of the Sith. Instantly, both Han andthe general understand the situation. They turn, drawing theirlazerswords in the move, and cut down the four Imperial troopers.The door to the chamber instantly seals shut. Valorum hasn'tmade any moves, and remains unusually calm. The two Jedi turnto face him.VALORUMIt's over, gentlemen. The chamber is sealed.Don't force me to release the Jai gas...A tone sounds, and the black knight turns to an intercom.INTERCOMSituation secure. Prisoners taken to hold "B,"...Twelve casualties.... gas was necessary.Han and the general relax and drop their weapons. The doorsilently opens behind them and six guards enter wearing face-masks. They bind the two Jedi with chrome microcuffs. Asatisfied smile creeps across Valorum's face.
>>220605788(also keep in mind despite wielding a "lazersword" here, "Han" is a green fish monster. There is no "Millenium Falcon". He is friends with Chewbacca, but they're not life partners. It's more of a "let me introduce you to the son of the chief of this primitive hairy tribe)
>>220601672A New Hope is hilariously inconsistent with later movies in the franchise in lots of little ways. This wouldn't be so bad if they didn't try twice to have their movies end right where it begins, they just rub your face in how dumb it is.
The most amazing thing of all is while the original script is completely alien to what the final Star Wars movie became, there is a SECOND script that is completely different in an entirely different ways. ALL the characters are completely remixed and reshuffled again. "The Star Wars" was three completely different movies at various stages. Leia is a damsel princess in the first one but doesn't get kidnapped till halfway through the story. In the second, she's the hero's little sister and kisses him goodbye with no serious part to play in the film. So the question isn't "Did George plan all this like a legendary skald composing an epic of old from his godly brain", it's more like he came up with a pile of 5,000 incompatible ideas cribbed from comic books and pulp paperbacks and rocket cody serials and like a retarded autistic child threw all his legos on the floor and just started picking some up at random to mash into a story.Star Wars was made by everyone else around George with him just kind of floating at the center like a big dumb Chris-chan mascot.
>>220601672The whole problem is zoombrains like this thinking "the lore" is some kind of sacrosanct thing that existed, just needing to be hewn out of a block of flawless marble by a master sculptor. Not only was it all made up more or less on the spot, it was made and remade with all the accuracy of pulling random words and character names out of a paper bag... 3 times.
>>220605231>>220605719You're talking about an early script that was revised. Scripts change as the movie is being made. That happens with every movie.
>>220605788Anime tier script
>>220605996No shit based retard. The point is that George wrote THREE baffling bad scripts all full of random values switching characters, roles, plots, locations, and everything else around. It completely defeats the morons who obsess over George's "Star Wars Lore" as some kind of holy thing he had a deep and epic plan for (mostly prequel babies grasping at straws to defend his solo works). He could barely plan his lunch. Star Wars became the massive hit it was as a result of other people, and very little of it was due to the supposed "uniqueness" of George's "vision". The scripts dispel all doubt about that.
>>220603218Vader literally means father in Dutch Dark-death Darth Vader Dark father Lucas had kind of a rough idea and slot of ways it could go and left himself options. Og emperor was just going to be an analogy for Nixon who ceased power
>>220606200Seized
>>220606080You seem upsetBig George created the story which changed over time. He modified and retconned some parts of it. Many other people were involved in making the movies good, because that's how movies are made. But George had the vision and recruited those people to help him make the movies. He gets the credit.He also pioneered modern cinematic sound systems and digital movie making. He's one of the most important people in cinema full stop. Show some respect to your betters
its short for dartholomew
>>220601411Why did Lucas do that anyway? It makes all the names sound repetitive.
>>220601263Because his name is Darth Vader. Star Wars was a standalone movie with Vader as the main bad buy of the movie that gets killed when the death star exploded like any other climax. It was so popular that they made two sequels, brought Vader back from the dead and retconned the first movie.
>>220601263he was a good friend
>>220601263This fight sucks
>>220601263lots of shit got retcon like empire strike back obiwan says yoda was his master
>>220606546>with Vader as the main bad buy of the movie that gets killed when the death star exploded like any other climaxWell ACTUALLY the "main bad guy" was Grand Moff Tarkin and he does get killed. Darth Vader is specifically shown NOT to get killed in the final part of the movie.
>Only a master of doing it for free, Janny..
How does "i sold it to white slavers l!" Lucas justify the conception of Jar Jar? Has anyone busted his balls for being a fag like that or is everyone too terribly sorry and just want to comfort him as he dies? It's a funny character idea too bad the execution is shit.
>>220601700GROSSLY untrue.
>>220605719>a good guy is named Kane Starkiller
>>220606662Jar Jar was the key to all of this
Why did they decide to make the super evil ancient sith a fucking jellyfish?
>>220606939>When deciding Tenebrous's species, Luceno was seeking an existing intelligent and "brainy" species in Star Wars canon. The Bith species fit the bill, but Luceno found that he associated Bith with harmless jizz-playing bands rather than menacing Sith Lords. However, cognizant of the fact that many different personality types could be found in a single species, he ultimately said "what the heck”.
>>220606662George actually came up with the idea for the Gungas before Star Wars.
>>220606939its one of the cantina band guys
>>220601324Ummm what?
>>220601263Darth was his first name in this one, Lucas didn't retcon it to a sith rank yet
>>220608621DO THEY GIVE GOOD ORAL
>>220601263>Why did he call him Darth?Darth is futurespeak for nigger
>>220602611>no there is another is referring to Anakin
>>220605996no one is saying it doesn't happen in every movie. the whole point that's being argue is that Lucas tries to do the whole>I planned all 6 films down to the smallest detail in 1970when he clearly didn't. they're good movies, but most of the lore is shit he came up with when filming that specific film and wasn't preplanned>>220606456he thought it sounded cool. isn't the emperor never named in the OG movies? like didn't he only do the >everyone is named darthshit with darth maul?>>220606605well from a certain point of view>>220611405I've heard 2 different explanations. one is that they just added that line in with no fucking plan at all to make it seem like luke would die fighting vader so they could up the stakesthe other is it was for some other character that was supposed to be in 3 who they cut and then just decided Leia was Luke's twin to justify the line
>>220602325The “Dark Father” thing is horseshit, he got the name from Gary Vader, a kid Lucas went to school with.And there was nothing potentially mysterious about his identity until Ralph McQuarrie gave him a breathing mask intended for one specific scene, meaning he couldn’t have been Luke’s father (who everyone would recognize) until much later than Lucas would have us believe.The only thing that counts against the idea that Vader became Anakin late in the writing of ESB is David Prowse claiming they were the same person in an interview with a school newspaper or something well before that, but it wasn’t clear why he thought that was the case.
>>220602170Based
