I saw it last week, and I’m sad to report that I did not enjoy my time. I wasn’t necessarily expecting much, but what I got out of it instead was somehow worse than my lowered expectations.A few key points I clocked:Basically, there is near zero character growth for our eponymous characters. They start and end the movie without any kind of arc, and what you might expect a movie to reveal or at least tease, is woefully missing from the film. It feels like a medium-rated bottle episode of the show specifically because of this lack of growth.Filoni’s need to tie his personal world-building elements at the sacrifice of anything Lucas-oriented was jarring to me. I expected cameos from Filoni’s world of characters, but didn’t expect it to be solely based on only characters he’s built in a world between the OT and Sequels. The fact that none of these characters become consequential in later iterations only highlights how shoe-horned it all feels.Speaking of characters from shows, it was doubly weird that none of the characters previously established in the Mandalorian or Book of Boba Fett made an appearance or were even referenced. It’s as if they wanted to wipe the slate clean and rid themselves of anything the show had built previously. Very odd decision.Filoni himself has 3 separate cameos, which would normally be whatever, but he inserted himself as a full-on character this time around, and it felt wildly out of place and took me out of the movie.Yes, the movie was inconsequential. I think what folks are missing about this isn’t that it’s a fun romp full of action, but the action feels pointless and without stakes. Never once do you actually feel like anything will happen to any one character in a real way, which, sure, if you like a lot of punching, shooting, and flashing lights, it’s fine. But if you want the punches, kicks, or lasers to actually mean something, you might walk away disappointed.
>>220604136The score IS good, so that’s fun. However, I’ll argue that at times, the score also felt oddly anachronistic to Star Wars, though, melodically, it was fun.The Babu Friks were the exceptional highlight of the film. Just make an off-series about them. They were such a joy.I WISH Sigourney Weaver had more to do in this movie. She’s just clearly there to do all of nothing but give exposition (save for a kind of out of nowhere moment near the end).I think, more than anything, I just wish Star Wars brought back any kind of philosophy or had something to say. You have all of these opportunities to build upon parental relationships and juxtapositions - especially with the Rotta and Jabba dynamics - that could have been reflected between Din Djarin and Grogu, but are just completely abandoned, or worse yet, not even considered at all.Overall, the movie tends to “And then” its way through the plot instead of “buts” and “howevers,” and honestly, I think that may be its greatest sin. The story isn’t so much moved forward by the actions of the characters, but instead it feels like they’re pushed along a conveyor belt of sequences that have to happen to them for the plot to move at all, which makes for a boring experience imo.
>>220604145I imagine most hardcore Mando fans will come out of this movie with, at minimum, a tepid reaction to what I would consider a mediocre film. But as someone who’s been critical of Mando’s last season, and hyper critical of BoBF and sort of the Filoni-verse at large, this doesn’t bode well for the future of Star Wars if all we’re ever going to get from here on is cartoonified and inconsequential projects. It’s as if Filoni et al are afraid to push any kind of boundary or even move characters forward, and I worry that the mentality that Star Wars is only a “kid’s property” will only further dilute the culture behind Star Wars. But, maybe we’ll see how things feel upon the Gosling project? I just hope we don’t see a consistent repeat of the lack of spine this movie showcased.
>>220604136Old thread:>>220597253Also, remember the critics who loved The Last Jedi now hate Mandalorian and Grogu!
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>>220604204The Last Jedi wasn't that bad
>>220604204I remember that time
Only one review I care about
reminder: since TLJ, user scores for theatrical releases can't be under 7/10. Anything lower will be rounded up to 7/10.
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>>220604241Correct, it was worse. But it had enough astroturfed 10/10s to keep the score above 40%
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>>220604145>>220604136I feel they are trying to go the mario route with this movie. Nothing substantial as a story, just hey look at that, remember this?, woah that's cool.
>>220604241..
>>220604136>66appropriate for the satanic pedophile cult known as (((disney)))
>>220604435>Nothing substantial as a story, just hey look at that, remember this?, woah that's cool.that's been literally every movie the last decade
>>220604204>critics who loved The Last Jedi now hate Mandalorian and Grogu!Seriously did the Disney money train stop or something? These people praised everything
>>220604136>Speaking of characters from shows, it was doubly weird that none of the characters previously established in the Mandalorian or Book of Boba Fett made an appearance or were even referenced. It’s as if they wanted to wipe the slate clean and rid themselves of anything the show had built previously. Very odd decision.you fucking tard, they didn't want to make having watched the show a requirement.
>>220604419It's more than an attack on Star Wars, it's an attack on human consciousness and western civilization itself. Like at the very basic, foundational, psychological level. It's not just subverting the movies, it's subverting the idea that man should fix his gaze on a star and strive to ascend. The SW OT resonates so well because it literally is one of the oldest tales in the world. It's Horus and Osiris, it's Marduk and Tiamat. These shitty films want to destroy the very concept of mankind passing on wisdom and tradition while the young simultaneously rise to redeem the old. And every weak blooded spineless coward loses his shit when you call them what they actually are, Marxism.
>>220604344I bet he will say its kino
>>220604472No, there was an attempt with the sequel at something even though it failed. You can't just dismiss it like that.
>>220604136>Speaking of characters from shows, it was doubly weird that none of the characters previously established in the Mandalorian or Book of Boba Fett made an appearance or were even referenced. It’s as if they wanted to wipe the slate clean and rid themselves of anything the show had built previously. Very odd decision.Well I haven't seen the movie yet, but I have seen the trailers. >The Hutt twins>the Anzellans>two Imperial warlords>Trapper Wolf>ZebMost of the main cast of the tv show died, or died in real life, or had a lawsuit against Disney, or lives on Tatooine or Mandalore, or is presently stranded in a different galaxy.
>>220604629desu I doubt he'll review it, he only really dips into media sensations or films that have a cultural inclination to them
>>220604534You can quickly reintroduce those characters without much problem. Their relationship with the mandalorian is not very complex and almost never amounts to more than “we are friends and we know each othe from before”. Sure some characters like Ashoka and boba need more exposing but just don’t use those.
>>220604234Escharum's reach expands across all sci fi.....
>>220604136Why is it so hard to make a good star wars movie? Just make a good movie with star wars world
>>220604906Nobody can make a good movie period
>>220604906How do you know it's not a good movie, it's already went from a 58 when the first reviews hit to 8 points higher in the last 3 hours
>>220604819If you don't go to Tatooine or Mandalore in the movie, who is left? Are you telling me Carson Teva, IG-11 and R5-D4 aren't in the movie?
>>220604136The Force Awakens's hype rivaled Endgame's just 10 years ago, now we live in a world where a Star Wars movie could have a lower opening than The Devil Wears Prada 2.I still don't get how Disney let it get this bad, even the DCEU wasn't this badly managed.
>>220604136I saw the new he man movie from travis knight and I think he should do a star wars movie desu, he knows how to make a good movie and faithful too
>>220604419I think at its core the six films are about family. Anakin's fall is because he lacked a proper father figure and was separated from his mom, forced to live under ascetic monks while Palps actually tried to be a father figure and corrupted him, while he was hiding a wife because of his duties. Then his son saves him from the dark, and his daughter saves the galaxy.Meanwhile the new films are about replacing the Skywalkers, there is no family, Rey is a nobody who kills her grandfather and her family heckin' doesn't define her so she steals another.. It's the epitome of anti-SW.
>>220605098Same guy did Bumblebee. Now he needs to do a GI Joe movie, a Star War, and a Garbage Pail Kids movie and he's got all my 80s obsessions covered.
>>220604136BOT POST. Damn, someone actually wasted their time to post this? All those words to say nothing and reveal nothing that couldn't be found in someone else's blog post. This is fake as fuck. I'm not watching it and I advise everyone else to skip it too, but this is clear AI slop post. I want the real salt.
>>220605311Why do Gen A lose their shit when they see more than one paragraph? Be glad I'm not reporting you for being underage.
>>220605048They killed it out of spite for it's fanbase, aka mostly men while expecting them to pay for it.
>>220604136>i.e. it's exactly like the showwoah, really?
>>220604204quick reminder that the actual audience score is closer to 21%, since RT hid the zero/half star reviews.41 is the score it got with RT's finger tipping the scales against "review bombing" while ignoring the blatantly bad faith positive reviews
>>220604136Kino
>>220605048They're fighting a war. A culture war.
>>220604136women ruined star wars.
>>220605245the prequels are not cannon
Gundam won, Hathaway century now
>>220604241It was not only *that* bad, it was worse.Here is the tally of the NetFlix reviews that were posted in the month before they, by SHEER COINCIDENCE, mind you, discontinued that feature. In order to review a film, you had to have a verified NetFlix account, payment confirmed, etc., etc. That means every one of these represents a separate paying account, no bots, no review-bombing, just various Johns Q. Public who felt strongly enough about TLJ to log into Netflix’s site, find TLJ, and write a review.The reviews are overwhelmingly negative.I was generous in my tally. I counted 3/5 ratings as positives whereas a site like RottenTomatoes would not.I screwed up and used a multiplier of 20 on the ratings to make it a conversion to a 100-point scale, but otherwise, it’s pretty straightforward. If these had been review posted to RT, they would translate to a score of 1.25/5 stars and an approval rating of 9%. Had I not counted those 3/5s as positives, it would look even more abysmal.I have every one of those reviews screenshotted.
>>220604419Absolutely based.
>>220604136>2h32mToo long for a toddlers movie
>GROGUUUUUUU!!!!!!
>>220604534So instead they made watching the rest of Filioni's autism universe mandatory by filling the film with his OC donut steels?
The only good thing to come out of this movie being released.
