>The writer really hated how you the audience didn't see <character> they way he saw him, and is now just destroying the character in retaliationWhy is this so common in modern media? What is it called?
Could you imagine if this cancer was alive in the early 2000s?
>>220606645it created the real joker at the end of the movie tho
>>220606671No it didn't. That dude that stabs him is such a cringe faggot. He's just a wannabe. But he's a crazed, murderous extra cringe wannabe. That's the point. Joker 2 is blackpilled kino.
>>220606645It's called ludokino. You wouldn't get it.
>>220606645it's called spite and it's the ugliest human emotion
>>220606725its mostly just normies who hate the movie because >musical>wheres batman and why isnt joker fighting him>me like the character so therefore bad thing no allowed to happen!!!
>>220606645they make movies for each other now, in a nepotistic circle jerk. you don't have to complain if you don't watch.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pov0MKuyJfg&pp=0gcJCQQLAYcqIYzv&ra=m
i should have used homelander for the op because he's the most recent example
what they did with 2 is criminal and if we lived in a serious world these people literally be hanged in the streets but we don't so they just keep getting to be rich and powerful
>>220606656>cannot believe chase turned a criminal gluttonous psychopath into a criminal gluttonous psychopath
>>220606645it's an obligatory sequel that nobody wants to do, so who the fuck cares
>>220606656I mean, don't forget Many Saints of Newark.>>220606817Or just incompetence, or jewish influence. Something is definitely going on....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97XwB72upPc
>>220606902spite is a foundation of the hebrew religion. every thing they do is out of spite. all of their holidays are based on it.
>>220606864>let's murder people because they made a bad movie about a children's cartoon villainTodd Phillips was right to abhor the Joker fanbase.
>>220606645They expected people to not universally take Joker's side over the murder of a bunch of 1%ers. They realized they were fostering a class war and had to put a cork in it.
>>220606932these people literally control finance and war. they are killing children in palestine. get a fucking grip retard.
>>220606656why is that woman standing behind the door? is she stupid?
>>220606946true they were terrified of a luigi
>>220606817The ugliest (and most evil) human emotion is schadenfreude, which can involve spite.
>>220606988she actually is
>>220606932>early lifeevery time kek
Spite must be the most quintessential jewish emotion
Leftism is inherently jewish
>>220606902>>220606928>>220606977>>220607042>>220607067why dont goyim just make their own movies instead of crying about jewish movies
>>220606831nobody liked the movie though. fans of the original were mad because it turned joker into a complete bitch, and people who didnt like joker 1 also didnt like a worse sequel to something they already hated. no idea why this was made
>>220607241jewish spite of course
>>220607320but arent they supposed to be good at business? why make a horrible, overly expensive sequel that was bound to flop?
People forget that jews invented BLM and spammed trannyism all to derail occupy wallstreetjoker flew too close to the sun
>>220607331because it's not about the movie it's about controlling narratives, which you can't really put a pricetag on (at minimum 50B+)that's why the jews bought US tiktok because it was getting too pro-Palestine
>>220607338ows was always about trannies and niggers you retarded newfag, gb2r. ows were democrat goons used to shut down the tea party movement. in the streets ows shut down ron paul events and in the federal government obama used the irs to target them. ows was fully endorsed by all the msm and obongo's government
>>220606645>Why is this so common in modern media?name 3
>>220606831>When the entire success of Joker 1 is that he's not fighting BatmanRetard. People hated Joker 2 because it was a shitty vanity project for Lady Gaga to coincide with her new album.
>>220606902He's talking about Gladiator 1. Also I fucking hate zoomer editing.
>>220607540says the retard who cant even read everything i said. i saw joker 2 on day 1 and people were saying that online
>>220607540I dont understand why they keep making these batman villain movies were Batman's not in it. Clayface is the next one
>>220607338>>220607457>movement forms that points out how fucked up it is that such a tiny minority of elites controls such a vast majority of wealth>suddenly, the movement splinters and falls apart because everything shifts to be about identity politics and gibs instead >you can see in real time how major news outlets pushed people to believe in a fake genocide on the streets of America >but no, the elites wanted us to be aware and angry about how much they rigged the game in their favor
>>220607688this, they were terrified because OWS was one step away from addressing the jewish question
>>220607640Because Batman villains are better than most super hero comic villains since they were kinda made before alternate universes, and cosmic villains, and shit. The old villains of Batman were just really gangsters and criminals. I'm excited for Clayface because he really is a character with background and reason. I dunno what the plot is from the movie, but Clayface is was a famous movie actor who wanted to stay young and became obsessed with beauty products. He tries the experimental shit that basically deforms his face and he goes insane. This is much better than watching some movie about Thanos or Galactus where you will never see Silver Surfer. Also I'm 100% onboard comic book movies that are standalone and are not trying to fit into some vast cinematic universe because it robs the film of character and purpose.
>>220607729>Clayface is was a famous movie actor who wanted to stay young and became obsessed with beauty products.
>>220606656Well we got Many Saints of Newark and they did everything possible to woke it up and even disrespect the lore. Just be thankful we got good media before the wokes took completely over.
>>220606946I remember the news openly freaking out about white male incels rising up or some other such nonsense. The universal hatred for white males (incel is just a wrapper for that anyway) is insane
>>220607729ok, but you could still have batman in the movie too
>>220607640Batman has the best villains because he’s just a man. I mean bane, joker, riddler, hush, two face
>>220607869him having the best villains doesnt mean you need to remove batman from the equation. no reason why batman shouldnt be in these movies in some way
>>220607688There is a graph that shows a direct uptick (to an Absurd amount, like a 500% increase) of identity politics discourse from <banking> funded media outlets (like Buzzfeed and The Guardian right after the Occupy movement. It's not coincidence that shit like gamergate and the sudden dominance of feminist cristicism of male focused media happened right after too.They saw the goys pointing fingers at the right people for once, and had to splinter them.
>>220607822>The universal hatred for white males (incel is just a wrapper for that anyway) is insaneThose poor white males. Truly the niggers of the world.
>>220607241i liked 1 and 2, thoughi just saw fleck for what he was - a mentally retarded loser who suffered and found a little peace and control through interpretive dance and blowing peoples heads offnot the clown prince of crime
>>220607787The Leftovers Se 3 in 2017 was the peak of media. And well 2020 HBO has been fucking awful we still have anime.Also well Prime is not good the fact Lucy talked morality with her based Dad and the Boys had a small discussion about Nick the man Land it gives me hope we might finally be healing from rich white man bad White Lotus.
>>220607935well then hes not the joker, and the movies have no actual point. its just a huge waste of time
>>220607891Yes,comrade, leftism was created in 2012, it didn't exist before.
>>220607887Penguin is the best thing HBO has done in 9 years. Low bar but here we are. Same with the first two seasons of the Harley Quinn Cartoon.
>>220608009zoomers really do think that. they dont know anything about how far left 60's and 70's radical hippies were
>>220608017none of that is addressing my point of Batman still should be in the fucking story, because all of these people are Batman villains. I feel like Im taking crazy pills
>>220607981movie aint called THE jokerand the point, if you absolutely need one, is to illustrate the state of decay of gotham that might give rise to such a character as the actual joker
>>220607457Source?
>>220608029Part I love pointing out as they get so mad but have no rebuttle is that Trump is one of the most Liberal Presidents ever.Not just that Trump has gay and Trans friends well Hillary Clinton did not support Gay Marrige in 2009, but 50% of the Presidrnts would have seen blacks as farm equipment and 66% thought Women had no right voting. Trumps a far left Marxist by comparison.
>>220608009>anon describes a huge uptick in a certain narrative being pushed, who pushed it, and makes inferences about why >anon doesn’t imply that these schools of thought are new in any way, shape, or form>you argue against him in bad faith for some reason
>>220608071thats fucking dumb. your making a movie about a character everybody knows, and that at the last minute after 2 whole movies its like, actually he isnt that character. Its that retarded rian johnson subverting expectations bullshit that ruining films.
>>220606725The idea of the Joker being this metaphorical disease that grew far beyond the original man's control and begins infecting people is kino. The film is smarter than people give it credit for.
>>220608062Adding Batman ruined Harley Quinn. Now they turned him into a pathetic blacked loser so thats probably what did it, but adding "Batman" made everything much worse.
>>220608122sorry but if you watched arthur fleck running into a door unable to read the exit sign and thought oh yeah this is the guy whos gonna push batman to his limits then you are actually a super retardnobodys expectations should have been subverted while watching this
>>220608225its the expectations of what the audience thought the movie would be about. If you say you're making a stand alone joker prequel movie, its safe to assume its going to be about the traditional character of the joker. Instead its about some weird loser that happens to dress like a clown (that should be the actual title)
>>220608225>it's just a coincidence that the first movie was called Joker
>>220608118>argue against him in bad faithThis retarded berniebro nigger keeps coming here pretending his chungus revolution was hecking subverted while anyone older than twenty knows that he is full of shit, because they spent decades listening to leftard drivel blasting at them from all sides.Feminist already had a massive civil war with trannies back in 90s, but he doesn't know it because that was decade+ before he was born.
>>220607035Schadenfreude is absolutely based
>>220606645Being a kike damned to eternal destruction
>>220606977>theycontrol finances and warUnprecedented revelations tonight at /tv/.>they are killing children in palestineI don't care about rape gangs spawn camps.>get a fucking gripGo watch some more Hollywood produced capeshit to #resist.