>Not a single clever riddle with a villain named Riddler>Not single interesting murder when the villain is a comicbook serial killer.>A detective movie where the detectives don't make a single clever deduction This capeshit was hyped up by fanbois as David Fincher meets Batman. Have these faggots even watched Se7en or Zodiac? The suspense, the tension is leagues above this shit. So this is the "detective" Batman movie that was supposed to show a Batman story at its best? Fuck you. This was slop.
>>220620680and yet, probably the best Batman movie.
>>220620680wait a minute, LES RADDA ALADAYARALAYADAR is mexican for carpet tool ripper uppercarpet tool that means he hid it under our noseswait a minute there was a carpet in a shithole that was falling apart and would have been condemned 100 years agowait a minute that was a carpet tool I need that exact carpet tool remover because no other tool will workwait a minute there is a map herrewait a minute we're too latewait a minute it doesn't matterwait a minute the film is fucking dogshit and that fucking spastic cunt that 'played' the faggler should have been smashed apart with sledgehammers in a public square
>>220620765If you're a retarded zoomer.
>>220620765>hey what are your top3 memorable lines or moments from this?>i cant say but it's le the best Batman movie
>movie sucks >as soon as Dano has a big role in the story of a movie What a surprise. He's a charisma black hole and can't act
>>220620909 NTA but>Falcone's arrest/death>The batmobile/penguin chase>"Brrrrrruuuuuuuuucccce Waayyyne"
Rata Alada not enough for you?
>>220621042>>"Brrrrrruuuuuuuuucccce Waayyyne"Lmao. That was embarrassing.
>>220621055I was legit shocked by how bad that was. It was so fucking lazy and stupid.
I'm sorry, but once you see shit like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSWacsfd-40The bar is too high to expect to enjoy a modern day Batman movie.
>>220620680100% agreed, this movie was a dogshit waste of time I got tricked into watching
>>220621389Never listening to comicbook purists as well.
>>220621055Batman didn't even figure that out, Penguin had to tell him. This really is the worst Batman.
>>220620965easy now Quentin
I truly believe The Batman is a Batman movie I would have dreamed of seeing when I was in high school. A story that's really edgy & serious with political commentary. One where the main villain has a REASON for being evil. But now that I'm older seeing that movie I was just more so embarrassed than anything else. Also I hated how the characters go back to the same night club like 3 times, just feels like a total amateur movie.
It's a case of style over substance, imo. This should've been a video-game, not a film. Hell, it would even work better as a line of comic books. If you want to adapt a character like this to cinema, you have to abandon realism. It's just too gay.
>>220620680It was atmosphereslop, good atmosphere and pacing but nothing interesting happens
>>220620680>only riddle is la rataaaa>bats and gordon spend one hour looking serious and dramatic like true detectives mumbling in the dark>it's solved by penguin just spoonfeeding it to them and making fun of them for being retardedpretty kino bravo reevestry to rewatch sesevenen and you'll also realize mills and sommerset are completely useless retards so the homage is perfectsommerset larps as the 200 iq nigga with a library card but all he does is scans some random pages of milton at the library in slow motion with dramatic music and lighting to figure out that GLUTTONY and GREED refers to the 7 sins, the only actual thing they do is bribe a fed and then fumble the arrest and doe just gives himself up
>>220620680>Have these faggots even watched Se7en or Zodiac?People who like modern movie never saw anything
>>220620680and on top of the batman refused to go to the gym so he looks like a cosplay nerd the entire time
>>220621566>I truly believe The Batman is a Batman movie I would have dreamed of seeing when I was in high school. A story that's really edgy & serious with political commentary. One where the main villain has a REASON for being evil. I love it for that exact same reason though. Kinda feels like the Batman movie I always wanted as a kid.
>>220622218>try to rewatch sesevenen and you'll also realize mills and sommerset are completely useless retards so the homage is perfectFucking kek, I'm surprised someone else noticed this. Sommerset and Mill's detective work basically amount to a quick visit at the library.
>>220620680What was the big riddle he solved, oh it was the del rata alada thingLiterally IP Freely tier wordgames
>>220620680yeah it was kinda trash but the penguin was REALLY good so imma watch the sequel
>>220620765the dark knight is never going to be topped, ever.
>early on>batman given photographs taken from murderer's POV outside the nightclub>think "oh batman will probably investigate the place where he took the pictures and find a clue">doesn't>turns out the murderer was there the whole timeWhen you can solve the movie that early, it's not written very well
>>220621042>top 3 lines>manages 0 lines
>>220621332the two burton films were masterworks which established all modern superhero fms.still took them 20 years afterwards to manage to replicate what he'd done.
>>220624334What capeshit movies do you think replicated his success?
>>220624011Kek this. The script was awful.
>>220620909>top3 memorable linesgive me your le top le 3 le lines from across le the other le movies. no memes allowed such as>nigga that's nuts>for you>6 million?
>>220624076>black Gordon>retarded riddles>"you're not my father!">he's looking for clues about the russian girl that lives with catwoman, because she knew the last guy that was murdered or some shit. Catwoman arrives at the apartment and batman follows her when she leaves instead because...she undressed?? and as he leaves to chase her, the mob kills the russian girl lmao>he kills several people on the highway chasing the penguin.>he gets some photo evidence from certain angle by the riddler himself. He can't be bothered to investigate from where those pictures were taken though, that's too much work and would have solved the movie because it was the bad guy apartment all along!>he has several "entering the nightclub" scenes which is retarded. Should only have been 2 tops: one of him looking like a cringe idiot and the other just wrecking everyone's shit because he's the goddamn batman.>the final goodbye. "Goodbye latinawoman, our lova can't be sorry, see you around my love" "oh but we're going the same way lol".The Cringeman
>>220620680Film should have focused on Falcone and Penguin more, they were the compelling characters.Make it so that Riddler has a looming presence but isn't actually caught in this one, squeeze a good two parter story out.Remove that joker shit, he has had enough spotlight already for decades.Maybe use more neon lights and colors, it goes well with the rainy aesthetic.And most importantly hire a fucking editor, this shit did not need to be 3 hours.
>>220625130>as he leaves to chase her, the mob kills the russian girl lmaoThen we learn that catwoman already hates falcone for killing her mother. Making the Russian girl character entirely irrelevant.
>>220620855this. So much this.
>>220620680The part that stuck in my head the most as "that's not right" is when Penguin kills like 20 people during his getaway attempt and even when Batman catches him he is literally never punished for it at all.>>220620765I don't believe you believe what you said. You're only saying it as a plea for attention that your parents didn't give you.
>>220624175>or momentsEmbarrassing reading comprehension
Batman '89 is the best batman film by a country mile and I shant hear otherwise
>>220620765Lmao
>>220626804Batman '66 is and anybody who thinks differently is afraid to grow up and leave their childhood behind.
>>220626804Based knower.
>>220627004>The gayest possible Batman is the best Batman
I feel like I'm going insane every time I open twitter and see people glazing this piece of shit. Granted it's mostly zoomers who are enamored with the movies style because they're so conditioned by Marvel movies that this feels like The Godfather to them. The pacing is horrible like in most of Matt Reeves movies and the script is shockingly amateur. I don't know why he didn't just hire a competent writer who could actually craft an engaging mystery and detective story especially considering it takes him 5 years to write a fucking script. There is also a heavy globohomo stench on the movie with it's left wing politics. It literally starts with a group of white skinheads trying to convince an innocent dindu nuffin to play the knockout game on an Asian. Total inversion of reality. Not to mention Riddler and his goons being incel/Q anon coded, the female black mayor who is the only non corrupt politician in the city, or Bruce being browbeaten for his white privilege. It felt like I was watching a Batman movie made by the CIA. I saw it opening night and when the credits rolled someone in my audience audibly exclaimed "Thank God!" because they were relieved it was finally over. My friends and I walked out bewildered with what we had just seen. Never experienced anything like that during a Batman film. Can't wait to see how bad the sequel is if it ever gets made.
>>220627004Adam We Batman is just a lark on the Batman character, a goofball sendup of the most throwaway comics.I enjoy it for what it is, but it's not actually a representation of Batman stories.
>>220627071>an engaging mystery and detective storyThey were trying to attract Batman fans, who don't get exposed to that sort of material and wouldn't know what to do with it. It'd be as dumb as making a Joker movie that's a musical.
>>220620680The definition of "mid".
>>220620765Batman Returns is unironically better
>>220627071It was the only Batman movie I saw once and never wanted to see again
>>220624043topped by Batman Begins.
>>220624043This, TDK is the absolute apex of midwittery.By the time they reach the tangerine ruby story you know you are being catered premium sloppa by a director with absolute contempt for the audience of the studio crap he's been forced to serve to fund future projects.
>>220627250TDK could have been spectacular but it was dragged down by nolan's inability to write sensible plots or edit his movies cleanly
>>220624043It already was.
>>220627351Lel, the movie that literally broke the studio.This was the very beginning of the end of WB as a credible purveyor of films.
>>220627083The comics are *all* throwaway. Superhero stuff is power fantasy for ten year olds.>>220627046Adam West got more pussy in a month than you'll get in your life.
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>>220627395And btw I am not saying that some Batman storier are "muh srs literature", what I am saying is that the 60's tv show was a better representation of Hostess Fruit Pie strips featuring Batman than what went on in actual Batman comic books.
the whole film was about how batman failed to prevent all of it simply because the cops didn't think that the murder weapon was an important piece of evidence, but through that failure realized that he wasn't just a symbol of terror in the heart of every criminal but also a symbol of hope for the people wanting to feel safethe only stupid thing about it was how he thought "the real truth" was about him and not the mayor who's name was Reál
>>220620680The sequel is set during the winter, it's going to be more like Fargo than Se7en
>>220627482The film is also about Batman being a BatNewb. He just kicked off so Bats is gonna be kinda green here.
>>220627460Did you read pre-66 Batman comics or are you basing this on 70s and 80s Batman comics (the ones that actually had the hostess fruit pie strips)?66 Batman was an appropriately adult take on silver age Batman and the absurdity of costumed crime fighters being put into cliffhanger situations every issue.The closest the modern movies got to addressing the absurdity of the concept was when mid-to-late 30s Bruce Wayne goes for his physical in DKR, and that movie ended up with "Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb"
>>220627614>Man in his late 30's decided to go emo and avenge his Parent's deaths by orbiting crime scenes and punching people who might seem guilty, which somehow strikes terror into the hearts of organized crime. Who've clearly never had to ever deal with rivals or angry sociopaths who are willing to resort to VIOLENCE omgz so unexpected.I mean, how could organized criminals ever be prepared for violent reprisal???
>>220627703There are like 3 whole separate eras of Batman comics before the Adam We show, and NONE of them resemble the show. Not even the bizarro "5th dimensional Imp/Batman is turned into flying buzz-saw" era.
>>220627703/co/ just pulled up.
>>220621535Quentin hates Dano solely because Dano is pro-palestine
>>220627703 You are confusing the influence of the show on the Batman comics for the comic influencing the Batman television show.Batman comics never had Batman zooming to the Mayor's office in broad daylight to quip and punch clues into his magic computer.
>>220627805Classic
>>220627720why wouldn't they be afraid of a guy wearing literal bulletproof armor who's not afraid just waltzing right into their den and beating everyone up in the process when everyone else is either a street level crook or someone with too much to lose for a frontal assault
>>220627895That's right! I forgot that crime organizations in massive cities never hired cold-blooded murderers, vicious goons or professional killers...why the sight of a angry guy in a bodysuit would send them all pissing their pants.
>>220627720He was 34, and it's perfectly valid to be emo at any age as long as you're hot.
>>220627895Modern Batman went to shit when he turned into this guy who pulls up in his armored tech-mobile, shrugs off bullets and has incredibly poorly choreographed fist fights with guys who never think "3-4 of us could just swarm this palooka and pin him to the ground".Strategy? Tactics? Clever use of darkness/the environment? Stealth? Dare I say detective work to pick people off one at a time when they are vulnerable??Naaaahhhhhhhhh.
>>220627936>why the sight of a angry guy in a bodysuit would send them all pissing their pants.because he did it over and over again tanking shotgun blasts, explosives, and getting the ever loving shit beaten out of himbut despite all that he would rarely even flinch and would just keep beating the shit out of them until he got whatever information he went there to getthey even demonstrate this with the twins who at first think they're hot shit and then apprehensive when they see him again
>>220628048Dude this scene looks so dumb holy shitttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
>>220628089for you
>>220628089It hasn't occurred to Batman movie directors in the last couple of decades to actually hire fight coordinators for a genre about people fist-fighting.
>>220628048but pattinson batman is the only movie batman to actually utilize the darkness, and major plot points revolve around him strategizing and actually doing detective work
>>220628147Begins had some early lurking in the dark, but both degenerate into BIG ACTION blow ups.And The Batman's detective shit is all 50IQ, there have been children's shows with better mystery solving.
>>220628189what do you think the mystery was that the movie was unraveling?
>>220628048>Mr. Nolan, we're ready to shoot>are you sure>yes, sir, the set design is completely uninspired and dead>is that all?>no, sir, the extras are all retarded and we just told them to act like they're fighting>wow perfect. anything else?>Batman and Bane look really fucking retarded, sir>WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR? ACTION!
>>220620680Paul Dano was wasted as Riddler. He should have been James Gordon Jr.
Paul Dano's plan was literally just put bombs everywhere and blow up a damn. You shouldn't really need Batman to deal with this
>>220627385People were not ready for that level of capekino. We'll never see an auteur driven blockbuster on that scale ever again. The ultimate pleb filter.
>>220628048Another reason why he's the GOAT. The only live action Batman that can believably take on a room full of armed thugs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7GWGLkPepU>>220628715I liked this Batman, but not Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne. Also, would Batman be dumb enough to pull a knife out of his body?
>>220627840The Batphone first appeared as "The Hotline" in 1964.Batman had an "Electronic Crime File" (i.e. database, i.e. computer) in the Batcave in 1956.Batman was Deputized by the Commissioner in 1941 and even taught courses as Gotham Police Academy.You may not like it, but Adam West is what peak Pre-Neal Adams Batman looked like.
>>220628817>would Batman be dumb enough to pull a knife out of his body?Nobody in movies is smart enough to leave it in. Just like they're not smart enough to just leave their shirt closed over their bullet proof vest instead of ripping it open to examine the bullets or even taking it off.
idea: elliot page as batman
>>220628817>would Batman be dumb enough to pull a knife out of his body?Idk but pulling a knife out of his shoulder and immediately using it to stab and pin a guy to the wall is the most metal shit Batman has done on film.
>>220628328Batman movie plots have been Jack Bauer shit since Begins.
>>220620680I came for the batman but stayed for the prevalent hooker boots
>>220628647I can smell how Indian you are
>>220629873I'm literally white with blue eyes but ok. I miss when we could discuss Snyder kino on here without people shitting up the thread with jeet accusations (pun intended).
>>220627004>>220627395This is some really cringe gatekeeping. Especially for someone who's claiming their don't read the comics anyway. Reminds me of when snyder posts here and tries to dismiss anything anons say about the comics (while also claiming ot be a comic book purist)
>>220630329Snyder era of /tv/ was undoubtedly the worst time for this board. You have the same taste in movies as an Indian, how embarrassing
>>220630359>Snyder era of /tv/ was undoubtedly the worst time for this board. More like the best. It's always fun triggering midwits like yourself.
>>220630443Do you understand that if we were to take your taste in movies and convert it to some other hobby, then you're like the tween spending their time discussing how great Fortnite is or how Harry Potter is the greatest book ever written. You're a literal retard for caring about who is better between directors like Snyder, Bay and Gunn
>>220630336I'm not trying to be a comics purist. I haven't read comics regularly since the 90s. I grew out of it, read the occasional Sin City and when Dark Knight Strikes Back came out, I went back to see what comics were up to. Grant Morrison was turning Beast into a literal furry with hooves and shit, and the Ultimates was trying to be extra-for-real-serious with swearing and black nick fury and Iron man and Black Widow just banging in the bathroom in between panels so I just wrote it off as cringe and never looked back. I remember though, reading an editorial by John Byrne about this issue when I was an avid reader in the early 90s and it's always stuck with me that "modern comic readers" are growing up and instead of leaving comics behind like all the previous generations had, they insist that their comics grow up with them. Comics and comic movies all trying to be grim and gritty and dark and violent is dumb. Comic book movies trying to be all grounded and realistic is dumb. Comic Books are adolescent power fantasy, with heavy emphasis on the Fantasy. One of the good things about the MCU is that they actually embraced the whole "comic book universe" angle instead of pretending that "it could happen in real life, and this is what it would look like". Before the first Avengers movie, even they were tepid, dipping their toes in, trying to pretend it was the real world but with super heroes in it.
>>220630443Going to be honest even if it's sacriligious, I don't recognize anybody but Cameron and Bay.
>>220630533Yet here you are triggered in a Batman thread because someone likes Zack Snyder movies. Shouldn't you be in the /film/ thread or on /lit/ if you're so above it?
>>220630775You're right, I am above talking to a spiritual Indian
>>220620765dark knight will never be topped.
>>220630822Clearly not. Thanks for the (You)'s faggot.
I'm about to go to bed and fall asleep while listening to Rifftrax make fun of 1949 Batman movies
>>220620680batman not knowing a winged rat can mean pigeon was embarrassing, seemed more like he was just stupid rather than inexperiencedoh right, tons of people here have shot musket balls at it as i write this
>>220620680I want a Batman movie but he's Cuban And he talks like johnny Montana Batmang
>>220627162>Batman Returns is unironically betterFuck yeah it is
>>220630859Begins is way better.TDK goes so fast that it doesn't give you time to think about the retarded shit, like when the chinese smughlers pick up bruce wayne on the ocean and then suddenly they have to deal with Batman? Pressumably Bruce put the suit on aboard the plane, then when he got Lao and was retrieved by the plane didn't the smugglers were like "uh... why are we picking up Batman again? Where is the Bruce?"
>>220633975>didn't the smugglers were likeslow down there ranjeet
>>220620765Cut most of the Catwoman sideplot and I'd agree.
>>220628647K I N O
>>220620765/tv/'s hatred toward this kino always feels performative
