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Why did no one care when Matt Reeves made Catwoman Black and call people “white privileged assholes,” but Nolan casting Lupita Nyong’o is apparently erasure?
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I did care, but zoomers couldn't help but think "literally me"
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>>220625185
There were several threads per day pointing out the duplicitous double standards of demonizing white people while lionizing nonwhites.
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>>220625185
because Batman is capeshit and Homer is actual culcha
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A) people did care. There was a ton of threads

B) Catwoman has been depicted as black in various incarnations literally since the 1960’s when Jim Crow was still in effect
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>>220625219
Ok but chuds are always mad, even normies are laughing at Nolan now
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>>220625185
She was hot and mixed. Lupita is just a random 5/10 Ngubu.
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>>220625185
Eartha Kitt did nog Catwoman back in the 60s and Zoe Kravitz is so whiteboy coded she is marrying a britbong twink.
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Legitimately never heard of this movie.
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>>220625257
Making Helen of Troy black is seen as disrespect and appropriation of Greek culture, and Greece is a small, poor, distant and "exotic" (especially for Americans) country, by a big corporation from the most powerful country in the world. So it activates their "privileged oppressor vs oppressed underdog" protective instincts. Catwoman is a modern character from American pop culture, and nerd culture at that, which the left has been attacking and subverting for the past 15 years.
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>>220625185
>Why did no one care when Matt Reeves made Catwoman Black and call people “white privileged assholes,”

Weren't paying attention then, were you?
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>>220625401
Nobody was calling for the films boycott. Musk wasn't doing mutliple rants about it.
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>>220625401
it's just another brownbot thread
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>>220625185
Because she was putting a sharp point on how Batman is better than all the other white boys. Its a kink thing, anon.
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>>220625185
shes hot
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>>220625185
There was at least two black actresses starring as Catwoman before you were even born. And before anyone told you to be upset about race.
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>>220625419
Nobody knew they made another Batman movie.
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>>220625459
>before anyone told you to be upset about race.
all the nogs looting the city made me upset about race
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Because catwoman isn't helen of troy
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>>220625495
>ignores all of the riots and looting white people participate in each year when something as simple as their favorite hockey team winning the Stanley cup happens.
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>>220625185
racists secretly love mulattos and normal people simply don't care
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>>220625382
Well said.
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>>220625577
Of course he does, he's a racist asshole
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>>220625382
>Making Helen of Troy black is seen as disrespect and appropriation of Greek culture, and Greece is a small, poor, distant and "exotic" (especially for Americans) country, by a big corporation from the most powerful country in the world. So it activates their "privileged oppressor vs oppressed underdog" protective instincts. Catwoman is a modern character from American pop culture, and nerd culture at that, which the left has been attacking and subverting for the past 15 years.
I can't take this outrage seriously.
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Making woman who steals for a living black seems just natural to me idk.
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People here actually cried about this quite a bit when the movie was coming out but everyone forgot about it instantly because this place is nothing but impotent whining anymore.
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>>220625185
Movie literally flopped lol
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>>220625382
>appropriation of Greek culture
nobody is buying this. if it was a white actress none of you would be mad.
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>>220625690
Meta whining
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>>220625690
>impotently whines about impotent whining
How meta. You should write comic or be in a writers toom.
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>>220625185

She's half jewish or white or something you fucking retard. Her dad in the movie is Italian.

Troll farms like yourself deserve a bukkake by horses right before you Tijuana show with the donkeys.
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>>220625185

Because Homer´s Odyssey is a timeless classic and Helen of troy is supposed to be the personification of desire overpowering reason. The whole purpose of the character, the one trait that it should convey regardless of how it´s depicted, is to be so hot, so alluring that the gods themselves would want her dead out of spite and all the kings of men would be willing to wage war over her. That´s how hot Helen needed to be... and Nolan picked an ape for that part.

Similarly Achiles needs to be depicted as the apex of mortal men, the closest a human male can be to the perfection of the gods. A degree of freedom of interpretation would have been one thing, but those casting choices say he (or his masters) choose to reject the source material. Add the rap music and the art design and that tells you they are going for a modernized Guy Ritchie style slop.
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I want to whip Zoe Kravitz just around midnight.
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>>220625899
so what if those characters do not represent the things you list in Nolan's adaptation?
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>>220625185
>Zoe Kravitz
true american mystery meat, even passable as white in US of A, believable as street urchin in a big city
>Lupita Obongo
the niggest nigger who ever nigged, contrast between her and the rest of the cast is almost painful, they didn't even tried to make her fit in greek epic
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>>220625539
what you mean? They are both fictional characters.
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Black Zoe Kravitz Catwoman was hot and that was just some dialogue a bitter criminal would say.

Black Lupita Nyongo Helen of Troy looks weird and her casting was a decision made by Christopher Nolan.
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>>220625577
>all of the riots and looting white people participate in each year
lol
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>>220625185
because it's 100% something catwoman would say
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You're telling me you wouldn't?
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>>220625279
Zoe Kravitz is definitely not hot. She's also a bitch.
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>>220625303
>never heard of Batman

7/10 though made me take the bait
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>>220625185
I did care, I didn't watch this goyslop
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>>220626074
/tv/ fervently trying to pretend this woman is ugly is one of the funniest developments in 2026
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>>220626224
she pretty as well as ayo
simple as
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I love how liberal Americans care about Aphrodite not being white just because they're closeted racists and don't see southern Europeans as truly "white" and therefore Greeks get some sort of minority status and oppression points, while if this movie was about Arthurian legends or some other Anglo mythology, nobody would care about "muh representation" because only Germanics and Anglo-Saxons (maybe some Frenchies too) are truly white and therefore Le ebil oppressive imperialistic colonizers in their mind...
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>>220625899
All that is window dressing to your ultimate gripe. No one is buying this noble angle of yours
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>>220625708
Most normies don't subscribe to 19th century race science anon, Greeks are white to 99% of people.
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>>220626356
No liberal cares. We know this is fiction. Retards on the right seem really obsessed with this.
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>>220626506
if there's no distinction between greeks and whites than it isn't about "greek cultural appropriation," so say what you actually mean
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Post the clip of that lucky bastard fixing her dress strap
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>>220626074
>>220626224
if I was on african vacation, met her in a bar and she'd invite me to her place, I'd quadruple wrap my willie and go, but I won't act like she's some eternal beauty
all the compliments on her adress sounds to me like comments under a fat chick's photo, positive on the surface but deep down they're like praising retarded kid for drawing a picture and not eating the crayons in the process
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>>220625185
>bitchy Catwoman being a bitch
OMG
>Mr. Pink calls people "niggers"
That's fine. lol
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>>220626598
she's prettier than at least 95% of white women, and clearly pretty enough to make hardcore racists who would deduct a lot of points simply for her being black horny, imagine how people who don't have that particular brain virus feel about her?
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>>220625185
People did piss and moan about this, and her line about white people
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>>220625185
>Why did no one care when Matt Reeves made Catwoman Black
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>>220625185
when the role is earned on merit, thats fine. will smith, Denzel, samuel L, forrest, fishburn, halle berry, whoopi goldberg, angela bassett, nia long, jada smith, regina king, queen latifah ... etc all earned major roles based on their acting ability, character or popularity.

lupita and ellen have been hired for no reason other than to be woke. it is unearned. both are terrible actors. its a political message woven into the film, nothing more. and people don't like that in their historical fantasies set in ancient greece
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>>220625185
Batman is not set in ancient Greece.
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>>220625185
0 cultural impact
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>>220625185
Because unfortunately Zoe is hot and no one knew there was going to be ani whiteness until the movie was already out.
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>>220625947

Simply put, if those are not the traits represented then he is just not adapting the odyssey. He is just making whatever and calling it the odyssey. Adapting something implies respecting the source and the original intentions of the author as much as possible. This doesn´t mean ones need to do a 1:1 translation but rather one needs to preserve the essence as much as possible.

What Nolan is doing is an appropriation, plain and simple. He is just using the Odyssey as a vehicle for his own thing. As such what he is doing is worthless as an adaptation. One may argue it may have some intrinsic value as it´s own self contained thing but that´s a hard sale considering it´s starting point is aggravating a timeless classic of western culture. Insulting the Odyssey is tantamount to insulting a few millennia of western culture and narrative theory. No writer alive has enough credit to pull that off specially none incapable of producing better alternatives.
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>>220626638
>she's prettier than at least 95% of white women
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>>220625431
unironically this
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>>220626694
>Blacks in movies when I was 12 = heckin based
>Blacks in movies now = wokeslop white erasure
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>>220625185
No one cared?! Where the fuck were you
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>>220626749
I just simply don't agree that people should be locked in to that kind of lack of artistic license when they're adapting a 3000 year old epic poem. It's a very silly, mad for the sake of mad take.
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>>220625185
Zoey Kravetz is fuckable and the black who plays gordan is like one of only 3 actually good black actors so I have no problem believing he actually was cast based on merit
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>>220625185
Because this catwoman played a realistic brown woman with left wing politics
>hates white people
>says eat the rich
>still worships Batman’s rich BWC
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>>220626902
I apologize for not being more fluent in emotionally fragile retard.
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>>220625577
>>220625613
Ew
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>>220626902
It's amazing how much of right wing thinking is taking retarded /pol/ memes 100% literally as truth, thus making discourse impossible.
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>>220626941
>>220626963
found em
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>>220625947
>>220626481

i am non-white, imo diversity in culture should be celebrated and should not be the same set of peoples representing all the peoples and all the cultures at all the times which is what you get with modern day hollywood

using people of african descent to portray royalty of ancient eras of another culture seems disrespectful.

>inb4 its a mythology and greece is geographically close to africa

what matters is the intent of the people from where the story sprang and more importantly remained in remembrance to arrive at the modern day, which is greece in this case.

This also cheapens the strength of african descent voices because they are assumed by default as interlopers and, nobody seeks to portray their own unique lived experiences on screen; if it is ever condescended to, then it is as a deconstruction of prior portrayals
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>>220627239
>i am non-white
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>>220625185
have a (You) faggot
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>>220625185
1) people did
2) batman is gay
3) movie sucked and everyone quickly forgot it
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>>220627239
>using people of african descent to portray royalty of ancient eras of another culture seems disrespectful.
she's a mythological figure and most scholars don't think she was ever a real person
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>>220627415
irrelevant, to the ancient people of greece who first thought of this and remembered all through these years, people of royalty would mean people of greek descent
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>>220627472
so is greek culture so fragile that altering the background of a fictional character in one of their myths literally harms them? I just don't see why anyone cares about this beyond the usual people who are just going to be mad that there's a black person in the movie on a basic level.
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>>220626074
Dude, i would but that does not mean i would cast her as Helen of Troy. She is a bad casting choice. Zandaya is a bad casting choice for Athena(Zandaya has zero screen presense) and i won't even bother explaining the tranny.
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>>220627527
The problem is not Greek culture. The problem are the cultureless anglos who try to turn the stories of other people into Americanized sloppa.
>black Cleopatra
>black Helen of Troy
>black Heimdal
Amerimuts need to turn every peiece of media into a reflection of their third world shithole.
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>>220627690
I just fundamentally don't agree that people shouldn't be allowed to take artistic liberties and risks with a story like this because of "respect" or whatever
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>>220625185
I thought it was hilarious she was blacksplaining about white privilege to batman and the guy was looking at her with those panicked eyes.
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going to be euphoric to watch the nolansIop crash and burn with no survivors
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>>220627812
There are no artistic liberties or risks involved in Hollywood diversity quotas. You're lying that it's just about "black person being in the movie", it's obviously about American cultural dominance. All of this forced diversity always has to represent ethnic groups in YOUR society. Remember that awful Artemis Fowl movie? They took an Siberian Eurasian character (Domovoi Butler), member of an actually underrepresented ethnic minority, and turned him into a bigger. Speaks for itself!



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