Why didn't they just go with this?
Why didn't OP just stop consooming capeshit?
>No, and I don’t mind saying it. In the comics he’s a clone of Homelander this entire time and is actually the one doing all these horrific things,” Kripke said. “And again, it’s a hell of a twist. But it’s like, well wait, the villain I’ve been following isn’t really the villain. And mileage varies, and I’m sure fans are mad I’m not going that way, but that felt not as satisfying to me. I’m like, if I’m going to follow this villain, I want this guy to be the villain. So I was never really into the clone idea.“>Kripke added, “Plus, cloning feels like too — I’m going to sound silly — but cloning feels too magical for the show. We try to say that superheroes are the only slippery banana, and that everything else we try to make as grounded as possible
>>220631900They wanted to do to Antony Starr's career what Joker 2 did to Joaquin Phoenix. He'll be a shit eating cocksucker for the rest of his like.
>>220631900I don’t give a fuck if it’s from a shit comic, this is one of the best twists ever. As for why they didn’t go with it, who cares, they probably wouldn’t have made it work.
>Gets the V1>literally meant nothingtalk about a waste of fucking time
>>220632030
>>220631900People with TDS refuse to acknowledge that people they hate like Trump are rational actors. They can't entertain any notion of nuance in his decision making, because doing so would entail doing a cost benefit analysis and contending with his rationale. Far easier to paint a villain as stupid, selfish, and cowardly, someone who is objectively wrong, rather than someone who merely has different but equally valid motivations. TLDR: Kripke is a hack.
>>220631900Because it absolves homelander of most of his crimes, but also most of his agency. They couldn't make him a Trump figurehead that you were supposed to root against if it turns out he never did anything that bad and some retarded clone put on his costume and caused 99% of the issues he did.
Because it makes no sense>I am worried superman will turn evil and we won't be able to control him>Lets make an evil and insane clone of him!!
>>220631900I could never take homelander serious because he's blonde. Nothing is less masculine than blonde hair on a man. It's also a pretty unattractive hair color in general just to be honest, so it doesn't really suit women either.
>>220631900>Have a character named black>Change his character completely so that he's black
>>220632220He wasn't insane, he was supposed to be a countermeasure if Homelander went off the deep end. BN got bored and made him go crazy by framing him
>>220632225Goooooooooood mooooooooooorning sir!
>>220632225Based Aryan Brahmin anon
>>220632262he ate babies
>>220632225>Nothing is less masculine than blonde hair on a manAlbinos, light skinned blacks, gay blacks, trans women, trans men.
>>220631900Doesn't Homelander have X-Ray vision? How did he not realize that Black Noir was his clone?
He did nothing wrong
>>220632143This is the same shit with american english localizations of non-american media. Maybe quit letting California and kikes be in charge of things?
>>220632220it mostly makes no sense, but ennis could spin it pretty easily if he had to continue the comic for some reason>homelander was just first version>noir was the "perfected" version that always obeyed (but went crazy cuz voight puts out shit products)>noir was supposed to just off homelander and take over his identity if he went off the rails, which he didn't. which made noir go off the rails
>>220632309He can't see through like Superman does. All he'd see is a skeleton
>>220632225Browns actually believe this lmao
>>220632225Brown
They wanted Homelander to be Trump.
>>220632378source?
>>220632333>homelander liking black musicDamn, they did change a lot from the comics...
>>220632129Honestly what were they thinking? The whole fucking thing reset to zero after homelander took the V. He didn't gain any power or ability or a new suit or anything!
>>220632030>“Plus, cloning feels like too — I’m going to sound silly — but cloning feels too magical for the show.dont they literally have a shapeshifter in the show
>>220632428That's Bee Gees.
>>220632428
>>220632479...They're not black?
>>220632428>the Bee Gees is black music
>>220632543Just tanned
>>220632543Why are zoomers even allowed on the internet?
>>220632543No, you fucking retard.
>>220631900libtards are retarded
>>220632543
>>220632543disco is the music of the white man retard
>>220631900Cuz that shit was retarded and everyone would just see it coming, not that they didn't run out of ideas and basically copied the comics at the end anyway.
>>220632143Didn’t he initially publish this on his blog and then delete it after getting a ton of pushback from Hollywood writers?
>>220631900>HEEENGGG... I DID THINGSI look like this and I say this
Why did Black Noir think it'd be fucking funny to ruin someone's reputation?
>>220632613Must be why it’s so closely associated with literal fucking faggots then.
>>220632030Can't have a superhero trope in the boys
>>220632503Why didn't we get this scene in the show?
>>220631900TDS took over, had to make it about trump
>>220632101More like they wanted to show the goyim what happens when they step out of line>If you, white man, dare to rebel, you will be depowered and you will be humiliated on live TV before being executed like a pig>Do not forget your place, cattle
>>220632705I mean the whole point of you is to help us restore Israel to its rightful place. I don’t get why that’s so hard
>>220632559>>220632562>>220632570>>220632584>>220632606>>220632613LOL GOTTEMI KNEW THEY WEREN'T BLACK (when I actually saw their picture for the first time ever just before posting that. I legit thought for decades that they were black because I had never seen what the Bee Gees looked like before today, nor did I know their real names. Kinda fascinating, honestly.)
>>220632225Kernel of truth but just a kernel
>>220632415the comic. google homelander comic xrayvision, I can't be fucked to save the image.
>>220632129Some of the supposed leaks were unironically better than the actual ending, like one of them showing that Himiko's beam was now useless against a V1 powered up Homelander
>>220632262>Black Noir gaslit Homelander into going crazy>Netanyahu gaslit Trump into going crazy
>>220632220He wanted mom to say it was his turn to play Xbox.
>>220632225Not a single person who's responded to this post has blond hair btw
>>220632773That wouldn't make sense though, because Soldier Boy's beam worked against Bombsight.
>>220632220Eh it was stupid just not for those reasons, they didn't know Noir would be driven mad from his assignment and it kind of was a good contingency because they knew both would be so fucked up in a fight that it would be easier to dispose each afterwards regardless of who prevailed.
>>220632681because the deep isn't black in the show
>>220632661It wasn’t for kicks, he literally was created for the sole purpose of killing homelander in case he ever went bad, but... homelander was actually playing by the rules, even if he was a bit spoiled, he wasn't really bad, so noir slowly grew impatient since his only life purpose was apparently never happening, which led him to try to make it happenIt was just his programming and he was pretty much a retard so he couldn't live without any other purpose
>>220632749
>>220632749So you were merely pretending?
>>220632169Is this "rationale" itt with us, MIGApede?
>>220632749I can tell you're American.
>>220632937>immediately seethes on command like a good monkeyYou're only reinforcing his point.
>>220633001So it's not and you're just spouting schizo Hasbara talking points like the mind raped little malformatoid you are.Glad we cleared that up.
subvert.
because they needed their diversity nigger on the main villain team, but he dindu nuffin unironically.
>>220631900Did gunn’s superman rip this off?
Because this type of political propaganda isn't supposed to be good, it's supposed to be fantastical escapism for chronic losers.
you mean
>>220632543Kek and people say white people aint got day muhfuggin rhythm an SOOOOUL YA HURRR
>>220632921No, I was just retarded.
>>220631900TDS
>>220632030Kripke is right, unironically. The clone plot is lame. Homelander should be the bad guy.
Heh.
>>220633590
>>220632030they don't even have to do do the clone part just keep the fucking death scene.
>>220633590>The clone plot is lame.Oh yeah what the Jew in charge came up with is 100x better.
>>220632681Why didn't they just adapt the fucking comic book instead of making if a libtard delusion? Why even "adapt" something if you're not going to use 90% of the source material and change it entirely in intent and story?
The Japanese woman can't act worth shit
>>220633590Retard. Homelander was already a terrible guy in the comic. The clone was just the cherry on top for how much Vought fucked him.Kripky just used the show to go full libtard in season 4 and 5 because I guess that's when TDS kicked in or that's when a (((donation))) came in.
>>220632143He'd have a point if he finished his fucking series.
>>220632503>Character can fly at above sound speed>Is bothered by air hitting his face
so let me get this straight. The comic ends with Homelander's clone eating a baby, and Homelander having a change of heart, because even he's not that bad?
Did they have Butcher continue his Supe purge after Homelander died by betraying all The Boys?
>>220633697Comic Homelander is quite tame. He begins being a psycho only because the clone gaslights him to do so
>>220633827No
>>220632749Let's just say other races appropriate american European properties or ideas. I hope I'm not being rascist.
Truly embarrassing
>>220633848what does he do then?
>>220632462shapeshifterspsychic guys who can magically take the appearance of other peoplea guy who can dig tunnels by eating dirtthe ability to infuse depowering chest lasers with radiationa guy who can inexplicably talk to all sealifesuperpowered cancer tumors that can spawn tentacles but no, cloning, a realistic thing, is a step too far
>>220632823But Kimiko didn't have V1, it would have been rather fair
>>220632462a shapeshifter, mindreading, telekinesis, an asspull laserbeam that removes superhero powers, and a way to teach other superheroes to use the asspull laserbeam if you need it.>cloning feels too magicalkripke is a retarded jew
>>220632661i'm guessing manga homelander couldn't see through objects?
>>220633827The comic ends with Homelander still being bad but the Black Noir clone being the one responsible for all the really heinous shit. Then Butcher kills him and everyone of the Boys except for Hughie
>>220633690Why do you think they had her as a mute for the whole series or why she had like 4 lines in Suicide Squad?
>>220633673Sorry to tell you this chuddie but if your orange pedophile cult leader was never elected we all wouldve had a fun, gritty and true to the source tv show.
>>220634008She isnt even a real jap. The bitch's name is literally Karen and she grew up in Southern California. ABGs are the biggest sluts on earth
>>220633961read the fucking comic. or a summary if you're an impatient zoomie
>>220634052i don't like Garth Ennis. He's the embodiment of cringe.
>>220634022Lol this has to be a bit. Why would Trump force a show to jam horseshit and completely change nearly everything from the source material so they could make it some lame anti-Trump libtard festival? Either gr8 b8 m8 or you might be actually retarded.
>>220632705Why is it that the posters who say this shit are always brown?
>>220634092Yet you like a show based on his work? You seem young and stupid.
>>220632937If you honestly believe that rising gas prices from the strait being blocked off weren't a consideration before starting the war, then I don't know what to tell you. Dozens of conservative thinktanks and thousands of military officers much smarter than either of us have spent at least the last decade drawing up invasion plans of Iran. They did a cost benefit analysis and decided the benefits of striking Iran outweighed the risks. We have yet to see if their calculations and Trump's hunch to follow through were correct because the war is stil ongoing. There's some hidden timetable that the public isn't privy to.
>>220634252No, 2016 Trump was surrounded by a metric ton of tard wranglers.Now, he has fired them and replaced them with Yesmen.
>>220633001>t. likes paying 15 dollars more a full tank of gas
>>220634092as opposed to what? this show? they're cringe in different way. The show is cringe for losing the plot and having shit dialogue and shit jokes. Gennis is cringe for being a tryhard on the shock value and a petty hater, but at least he actually wrote something consistent. His Hughie and Butcher are actual characters not parodies of themselves like in the show.
(((Kripke)))
>>220634252Migger cope lmao.
>>220632225The problem isn't the blonde hair, it's that we can clearly see he dyes his hair.He's not a natural blonde. If he was, it would look better. Or now that I think about it, keeping him on his normal hair color would be kino considering he'd look more similar to Butcher this way
You wont like me when I'm angry Kripke....
>>220634396uh oh golem mad!!
>>220632030>But it’s like, well wait, the villain I’ve been following isn’t really the villain. And mileage varies, and I’m sure fans are mad I’m not going that way, but that felt not as satisfying to me. I’m like, if I’m going to follow this villain, I want this guy to be the villainwhat does this even mean
Who the fuck actually watched this shit past season 2
>>220634459why are you asking a question you already know the answer to
>>220634482so you don't know?
>>220632341>This is the same shit with american english localizations of non-american media.you literally have to do that or nobody in other markets will have access to it without learning another language (nobody will do this)and yes, this includes your subtitled japanese animes
>>220632220Vought are greedy fucks the supes arnt that powerful most pf them are useless fucks, the military comes in and mops them up. The show made Homelander this all powerful force and missed the point of the comic.
Why would anyone watch this show after the first season showed they werent properly adapting the source material
>>220634252>and thousands of military officers much smarter than either of usWere fired, for disagreeing with scamming LARPer who quotes Pulp Fiction instead of the Bible
>>220634495>you literally have to do thatNo, you don't.Americans are just shitty people these days.
>>220634317Trump is just the charismatic face of an agenda that is much bigger than himself. He's being used by organizations like the Federalist Society (who chose his supreme court nominations) and the Heritage Foundation (who authored Project 2025) and he's okay with it because what he ekes out of the deal is glory and riches from insider trading. It's a mistake to characterize Trump as stupid or evil, because doing so leads people to underestimate the real masterminds pulling the strings. MAGA will outlast Trump with a different name and figurehead. The entire Republican party is going through a night of long knives this very moment to oust every RINO who doesn't get with the program. Any republican who gets nominated to succeed Trump will be compromised, and that includes the "sensible" picks like Marco Rubio.
>>220634252I mean, I think we should glass the entire ME and any Muslim country because that's a monstrous religion we have been fighting against for over a thousand years at this point. So. I don't care, the more dead shitskin muzzies the better. Women, children, who cares? They are doomed in the lives they were born in anyway and only destroying Islam - or at least all its followers - is always a step in the right direction.
>>220634169I don't watch the show either.
>>220634561>we have been fighting against for over a thousand years at this point.Dude your country was created in 1948
>>220633841>Comic Homelander is quite tame.
I wonder if the jews ate hitlers shit.
>>220632503Homolander doesn't even seem that strong if a breeze can push him back.
>>220634558how are you going to watch a show made in japan or germany without it being translated to english?
>>220634597The Atlantic Seaboard was promised ro us gentiles 3000 years ago, you dumb kike.
>>220632129it was just an excuse to not kill him with the virus
>>220631900
>>220634561The middle east should be left alone. Even if you think Islam is a false religion, just leave them to their own devices. Without the need to proselytize, thousands of muslims turn away from Islam every day thanks to the internet showing them all the inconsistencies within their religion. Within 100 years every Muslim country will become incredibly liberal and irreligious, just like the West.
>>220633643holy shit comics are so fucking gay
>>220634631Well I am German
>>220634559Wow do you have a podcast I can subscribe to??
>>220634670>The Atlantic Seaboard was promised ro us gentiles 3000 years ago,>ro usYour country didn't even existed back then.>, you dumb kike.That's a lot of projecting.
>>220633690she cute though
>>220634722
>>220634716No, think for yourself, retard.
>>220633834he attempts to, Hughie kills him.
>>220634151They think hijacking white grievances with their stupid desert tribe wars will gain izzat
>>220634372Sometimes you just gotta take out the trash. Based Trump once again.
>>220634008All you need to be a Hollywood star is really just looks? And fucking the right guy?
>>220632030At some point you have to look in the mirror and be aware you're a lousy writer and showrunner
>>220634396Did they replace Angry Joe with a knockoff or something? He looks wrong
>>220632631Pushback from hollywood writers?Just go on strike again and make entertainment a better place.
>they also shoved in Butcher’s ending in the episode despite it having a whole dedicated final arc in the comicsWas there a certain point that the show became shit, or was it always destined to be shit?
>>220631900Because the beta cuck writer has a bad case of TDS, and as we all know there is no cure or treatment for TDS.
>we can't let omelander ave the compound V>we can't let omelander ave the temp B>we gotta give omelander the Wuhan flu>we can't let omelander ave the V1>we gotta trap omelander with the uranium >we killed da omelander, now time to kill everyone else
>>220634942>muh TDSImpossible to be deranged when he's skull fucking anyone who isn't a billionaire This meme really has failed over the last 1.5 years
>>220634830No, you need an asian to pass the DEI check and ne hot enough to pass the fan/normie check...You people are so predictable...
>>220634718My bad I thought I was shitposting at a kike and not some brown third world turd.Carry on shitskin.
>>220634713And Japanese? How about Swedish? Or French? Or Italian?
>>220633960Homelander's fight would've been cooler and heavier if he killed Ryan in front of Butcher after Ryan intervenes and Homelander calls him a little shit. (Come on, it's not like Ryan was really doing anything afterwards, Butcher goes crazy on his own)
>>220634382Season 1 Homelander with the blonde dyed ends was better imo, only afterwards he started wearing a wig because dyeing his hair was wrecking it. Think they should've kept him brown haired though, even after that whole "blonde hair blue eyes" shit with Stormfront.Though in fairness, from a meta perspective the fake hair and muscle suit does play into the fact Homelander really is just a fake person through and through, he's just bad product.
>>220634396Based Enraged Enrique
>>220635002Shut up retard
>>220631900LE EVIL SILLY FACE MANSEE HIS FACE IS LE DERANGEDTHATS HOW YOU KNOW IS LE HITLERALSO BEING WHITE AND BLOND AND MUSCULAREPIC REDDIT
If the point was to humiliate Homelander why didn't they actually have him suck Butcher's dick? Or call in a Bill Clinton cosplayer and have Homelander suck him off like Drumpf was confirmed to have done in the Epstein Files? This series has never shied away from homoshit except in this one instance. Why did the jews want to protect Homelander's image?
>>220634886Starr did great with what he had though. As always, carrying the season.
>>220635232You're like 5% of burger murica nowBlumpfts mobile scam had barely 10k users
>>220635264That's from the comic that has nothing to do with the show, migger
>>220631900I wanted to see the US military vs supes.
>>220635264kys cringe nigger faggot tranny lover
>>220634597>>220634670Hi, shilling shitskin muzzies. We were established in 1776. White Christian nation. You are not welcome here and never will be. Enjoy coming here and being ESL retard scum and your kids hate you for being retarded backwards shitskins that permenantly make them second class citizens. Stay in your retard foreign countries, you are always permenant outsider shitskins to our country. Your sons will be literally unattractive untouchables and your daughters will become BWC sluts. Please import more young lower class easy pussy for me to fuck. Your dumb ideas disappear the second you come to Whoreland. I will enjoy fucking your dark sister's brown pussy and then throw her away immediately like the garbage she is.
>>220635417we don't sign our posts here
>>220635417upboatedreddit wonchuds lost
>>220633807Supes aren't that fast, resilient or strong in the comic
>>220632937Holy proved his point
>>220635432>BWCOxymoron
>>220634616Sexual favors in the workplace is a very tame concept, yes. Mundane even.
>>220634490I will take pages of tl notes from fansubbers of the mid 2000s to give context to things that cannot be translated over retard localizers that just can't help themselves any day.
>>220634431That the Thanos we come to dislike because of his actions in Infinity is defeated at the beginning of End Game and replaced by another Thanos but not the one we should actually hate because of their actions and that is actually a lame fucking plot.He's also correct.
>>220635432You are jewish. Your drug addicted yenta sister sucked my dick for fake perc 30s.
>>220635432>We were established in 1776.Calm down Mosche>Enjoy coming hereNo thanks, I am fine in Italy.Better climate, better people, better state.
>>220634252You sound spiritually raped.
>>220634252that's why all those people were quitting the pentagon the months before
>>220635432>Christian nation.Protestant
>>220634252When it starts hitting 6 dollars like it was under Biden then I will be anti-Iran warIts still under 4 in my region
>>220635887No it's not
>>220632030I like how he took that away and replaced it with fucking nothing.
>>220633643They kind of did, since Butcher still pried open Homelander's head in the end
comic was always better
>>220633988He just sees skulls(and silicone)
>>220634886He still got forced to be a kind of parody of Trump, even his death scene is like a libtard power fantasy where they finally get Trump to act like a little bitch on live TV before executing him on the spotIn a way the scene would be way more accurate if Homelander was replaced with Trump and Butcher with a blue haired fat lesbian with glasses
>>220632030>>No, and I don’t mind saying it. In the comics he’s a clone of Homelander this entire time and is actually the one doing all these horrific things,” Kripke said. “And again, it’s a hell of a twist. But it’s like, well wait, the villain I’ve been following isn’t really the villain. And mileage varies, and I’m sure fans are mad I’m not going that way, but that felt not as satisfying to me. I’m like, if I’m going to follow this villain, I want this guy to be the villain. So I was never really into the clone idea.“Having black noir be a clone would have worked, but it would need to be foreshadowed better in the show.
>>220636148>He still got forced to be a kind of parody of Trump, even his death scene is like a libtard power fantasy where they finally get Trump to act like a little bitch on live TV before executing him on the spotno its pretty similar to the comic death in the way black noir died
>>220632631It was mostly HBO crying about it, after this post basically the view around HOTD season 2 went to shit.
>>220633690>>220634008>>220634830>>220635035Her acting is fine you faggots.
>>220636148the left knows how ugly and foolish they look which is why they always go for an average white dude when they need to do these thingsIts the one time you won't see the left blackwash somebodyNo one is going to root for 'heroes' that look like thisYou got to make them white and cool looking to make them drink the leftoid kool aid
>>220636203Hi KarenHow many jewish cocks you sucked to become such a mary Sue? We saw you sharing the same tattoo with that idf pedo
>>220634151Why is it that the posters who say others are brown are always brown?
>>220634151>>220634799are you jews?because even commies hate jews for the gaza genocide
>>220636235Stop thinking about jewish dicks all the time.
>>220634252Starting a middle east quagmire that would impact every cost months before midterms is an exceptionally stupid idea and indicates that no, they in fact did not think this through.
>>220636392>quagmire
>>220636306Hey you jews are the ones constantly showing dicks in this show
>>220635689>and replaced by another Thanos but not the one we should actually hate because of their actionsBut you should** hate him because of his actions. He chose to throw himself into the mix, it's not like the heroes went looking for him. In fact they were actively trying to avoid him
>>220631900They needed more time and money to put AI frenchie in, as well as reshoot the entire ending so corporations aren’t seen as villains. Thanks Amazon!
>>220633673the comics are liberal too, its just the show that went for the boring 'orange man' stuff
>>220634252LMFAO
>>220632749>I was pretending to be retarded!the state of this board
>>220632169Trump devotion syndrome is a real illness many pedophiles are afflicted with
>>220634396Peeved Pedro looking pissed.
>>220634169>young is an insult to decrepit troonlennials
>>220632030>Wait the villain we wanted to see fail for the horrible things he did, isn't actually the guy who did those horrible things? Wow that's really disappointing! Can you imagine being a character in the story, say, BUTCHER and HIS WHOLE LOIFE is spent trying to kill HOMELANDER because he thinks he raped his wife when really it was SOMEONE ELSE? can you imagine the frustration? Nah too complicated, plus i want him to beg to eat shit because he is Trump heheheDo not let this fag make anything ever again.
>>220637026this but you and mohammed
>>220631900>heenh
>>220636631 U didn't read the comicWe know. Shut up now. TV Tropes doesn't replicate reading the series and reading about tropes in a plit isn't substitute for reading the material, lazy midwit.
>>220632143The movie Manhunter is better than the book. Also every Stephen King movie is better than the book.
>>220637259Zoomies like you are the troons, retard. I accept your concession.
>>220631900Why didn't they just adapt the comic?! Idk, TDS is a mysterious disorder.
>>220637435Everyone knows you're just the same guy making the same post blumpfty
>>220633827Black Noir was a clone created to kill Homelander if he ever went postal. The problem is Homelander was not really that bad, all the heroes were assholes, Homelander wasn't evil in particular. In order to make Homelander turn evil, Black Noir took photos of himself doing shit like eating babies and killing people. Seeing the photos slowly drove Homelander insane and made him think he was evil because as far as Homelander was aware, he would randomly black out and go eat babies. So Homelander did go insane and try to take over the nation. Homelander is never redeemed, he just realizes he turned evil over a very stupid trick that might as well have been Photoshop. He fights Black Noir and gets torn to shreds but not before leaving Black Noir on death's door too.
>>220637510That guy really is fucking insane. Anything and everything to deflect from the Epstein files and losing the Straight of Hormuz
>>220637547Did people actually fall for this "plot twist"?
The comic ending is garbage too tho You can beat it by just having butcher hughie and homelander actually get into an altercation.
>no scorched earth apocalypse>no soldier boy>no black noir 1 comeback>no supe genocide>power scaling ruined by poor writing>homelander only killed 1 person offscreen>deep's nonsensical death>butcher's nonsensical death>no sage death>lame homelander fight scene>kimiko arc>ryan arc>starlight arc>starlight face>no starlight deaththose are all the things that made the finale shit. what else am i missing?
>>220637614See>>220637310
>>220637629The ghost of the french man appearing so all the boys were in the episode
>>220634022>victim blaming
>>220637510>>220637565Easy, bots. Just pointing out the show is garbage and driven by TDS.
>>220637680This doesn't work when you're utterly alone
>>220633673well, a good portion of the show was bush related shit that naturally no longer applies
>>220637700You believe that black lives matter, the future is female, no human is illegal, and men can become women. You are trapped in your own ideological corner you cannot escape without denouncing some part of this. In other words, you are doomed. Keep clutching your garbage fictional leftist media. Reality has a strong conservative bias, red in tooth and claw.
>>220637614It comes out of nowhere. I guess Black Noir was suspiciously durable in some scenes but that's it. I mostly liked how it re-contextualizes Homelander. Homelander actually could have been good.That's my problem with the show, it's so schizophrenic about what it wants Homelander to be. Show Homelander has a much sadder backstory than Comic Homelander does, but the show can't decide if Homelander is supposed to be tragic or not. I guess the writers finally made their choice when they gave Homelander such a humiliating end. Too bad it now looks like they really wanted to dunk on a schizophrenic victim of child torture.
>>220635002ah another tds victim
>>220632705>implying Homelander isn't a kike himself
>>220637355>U didn't read the comic
>>220631900The summary I read suggests that the clone kicked off the events by doing fucked up shit to frame the original. Then the original, after seeing alleged evidence of him doing fucked up shit, in a world where fucking aliens and superpowers like shapeshifting exists, comes to the conclusion that he is going insane and does worse shit.It was a fucking stupid twist.
I always say Black Noir with a french accent and laugh like a retard.
>>220632225Sentences that were never uttered before the year 2015
>>220633289Too kino for Kripke.
>>220637894Is there shapeshifting in the comics?
>>220632030What a fucking retard
>>220638030Yeah but the first paragraph is spot on
>>220631900Because plot twists are chum for normies
>>220637894>fucking aliens No Aliens exist. >superpowers like shapeshifting existClosest to a Shapeshifter in the comic is Malchemical but i don't think he can look like other people. Just objects and chemical components>comes to the conclusion that he is going insane and does worse shit.He thinks he is blacking out and doing this. The reason why it works is Homelander is a fucking asshole who will kill but not to that level of depravity on random ass people. Its a lot more nuanced than he just goes crazy because of photos. He does being carrying out horrific acts himself because he is getting full of himself thinking he can do anything and get away with it. They also heavily setup the Noir twist with multiple clues throughout.
>>220638093Are the multiple clues in the room with us?
>>220638093It's not nuanced at all. Homelander is essentially a better person than any of the boys, if another superhero was actually doing all the bad stuff to frame him.
>>220637614>Did people actually fall for this "plot twist"?Black Noir kept in the background and did pretty much nothing apart from random appearances, like the Deep. At most we saw that he was just as psycho and deranged as the rest of the supes. As far as the reader was concerned he was just a background character, which made the plot twist of him suddenly being the big baddie work pretty well. Ennis' comics tend to be dogshit but this particular twist was pretty well executed.
>>220631900Not enough of a jewish revenge fantasy
>>220638093Doesn't Malchemical take the form of the fat kid to trick the one chick into telling him her secret fear
>>220634252>the benefits of firing the army chief of staff outweigh the risks
>>220638138How was this well executed? I get that the idea itself is interesting, a doppelganger framing you for horrible things and driving you insane over it, but using some random background character for that role just feels lazy
>>220633673>Why didn't they just adapt the fucking comic bookBecause the writers were embarrassed by the comic's dumb edgy writing so they wanted to try making something better.It worked for a season or two because of idiots like pic rel, but it's obvious by now that the writers just dropped the comic's twists without having any replacements in mind. That's why the show meanders and then awkwardly ends.
in hindsight not dropping this garbage after "me woifs son!!" was a mistake
>>220633289>someone will probably AI Ryan into Black Noir and change the ending to him mauling homolander to piecesheh
>>220633673>Why even "adapt" something if you're not going to use 90% of the source material and change it entirely in intent and story?what is Hollywood
>Trump debase himself before dyingBlown my expectations away woah. What a shitty last season, the Boys comic is fucking terrible, but at least the schadenfreude was there. This is the usual jewish writer's fantasy. Fuck comics.
>we need to stop 'omelandah before he helps israel take lebanon and destroy iran and sends 20 million displaced wogs to europe hughie
>>220638335Id watch it
>>220632030Homelander was always a prick that forced Starlight to suck his cock and raped Queen Maeve, the only thing Darknoir did was do some horrible things cosplaying as Homelander to escalate the situation and justify his existence.
>>220637894Homelander didn't really do worse shit. He's just turning insane because he can't explain how he did these things so he eventually accepts that he must be blacking out and then he pretty much decides he's above the law and humanity and raid the white house. He doesn't go and starts eating babies all of a sudden.
>>220634396If you're retarded enough to think any of that would have happened after the first episode, you deserve terrible content
>>220635903City slicker status?
>>220632143Fatboy George actually had an opinion with which I agree?
>>220638385I'd believe you if you said still 4 dollars.
>>220638236It would have been too on the nose if they had hinted it like having Black Noir take his mask off and we see that he looks like Homelander from behind or something like that.The unassuming guy suddenly becoming the main villain is always one of the best plot twists if you truly did not see it coming, which you really did not with Black Noir, they kept him around enough to not be a literal who but used him sparringly enough to not really hint it away too soon. That's a well executed plot twist, nowadays you have thousand clues for the reddit intellectuals to point their finger and drool that they spotted it. The comic refrainded from that.
>>220638260The comic book is superior to the show, even season 1. It is just more edgy. But the show is juvenile and dumb, which is worse.
>>220638423Could have been A-train framing him with a cloned homelander skin suit then ehBlack noir is literally nothing. Just because people didn't see it coming doesn't make it good.
So... If Trump lose the elections, would have this changed with the black girl becoming the new president of united states there beating Homelander, wouldn't they?
>>220632225Truth nuke.
>>220638483I bet you didn't like The Mule reveal in Asimov's Foundation either
>>220638483Or at the last page Ennis decides to suddenly show us a big face of a homeless guy who wakes up and screams "THE FUCK WAS THAT SHIT!?" and it turns out the whole comic was a drug-induced dream of hisI wish a director had the balls to do this with a show for once
>>220638410he was pretty pissed at the writing for hotdoodo
>>220638510The only long form Asimov story worth a damn is The Ugly Little Boy, every short story is worth the time however.
>>220638236if i remember correctly, all the shit Black Noir did was knowledge of Vought. The little shit was so well hidden, that he "died" a number of times, just to came back as it was nothing. It was good, a nice surprise between the edgy shit.
>>220638423>The unassuming guy suddenly becoming the main villain is always one of the best plot twistsNo that's just lazy
>>220631900Because Hollywood retards think they're too good for comics and feelbthey can write the story better. The fact they always write it worse never crosses their mind, it's the audience of stupid, media illiterate chuds who are the problem.
>>220632030Ugh the entire point of the Black Noir twist is that Homelander could believe he was that rancidly evil because he's morally vacuous to begin with, he's the perfect product and reflection of Vought American, so banally evil because the system he lives in lets him get away with it, however it also shows that he himself is subject to said system and it's evils. This parody character in the show is less interesting.
>>220638486This was written before Trump got elected retard
>>220638511Anon, I...This does 36 years tomorrow btw
>>220632143>TolkienThe LOTR trilogy was good though. Not as good as the books obviously, but probably the best a film adaptation could have possibly been.
>>220637894Thats the problem with calling twist stupid by fucking summaries and headcanon. It wasnt just the pictures, homelander didnt believe it and I think Butcher himself mentions he thinks it probably isnt real. There are other "black out" episodes, which other characters mentions to Homelander, some in his own tower with his clothes. He starts to consider it might be true and snaps only on the last few chapters and only when his hand is forced.
>arguing over shitty postmodern super hero SLOPimagine getting this invested in some retarded gay writers fanfiction of even worse comic the absolute state of tv drones
>>220632225Based. Only a white Aryan can hold this opinion. Brown people worship anyone with blonde hair.Everyone seething over this is brown, offended by blaspheming their idol.
>>220636631the comics are clearly communist. And, to just make it even more clear, other than Starlight, the only other supe that is a friend with Butcher is a communist. Ennis has a huge thing for soviet union, despite he criticizes their authoritarian regime, which is fine with... well, basically any communist who is not authoritarian.
>>220638625He snaps because he actually does horrible things himself like killing a plane full of people but then feels bad about it and cant understand why since he thinks he literally skullfucked some guy and ate a baby thanks to black noir. The twist could actually have worked better in the show with homelanders more traumatic backstory, even when he thought he was breaking free of vought and ascending beyond humanity he was still just being manipulated by their failsafe
>>220638910why did they make love sausage evil in the show anyways?
>>220634704>this copenigga, islam is a warrior religion, they literally purge libtards every few decades, and become even more conservatives, they don't become liberal because they don't have values like "turn the other cheek"like did you see what happened in Syria, Afghanistan and Iranindonesia literally genocided like 2 million liberals, communist feminists, a couple decades ago and eliminated their entire left-wingthey're one of the few people, aside from Jews, who have the whole world figured out and know how to play the game
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>>220639009>these absolute shitholes are doing the right thing
>>220631900Is that grin man?
>>220634252>They did a cost benefit analysis and decided the benefits of striking Iran outweighed the risks.No... it was literally the opposite. Hence the fact your country is now death spiralling.
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>>220632030>Plus, cloning feels like too — I’m going to sound silly — but cloning feels too magical for the showYou mean just like capeshit?
>>220632220See, another thing that's lost in this adaptation is that Vought is fucking retarded. The Black Noir plan isn't treated as a good idea in the comic either. Noir is the reason the concept of the superhero is destroyed, he made things go nuclear so he could get his shot at Homelander. Their back up plan destroyed the company because they were expecting a rabid animal to wait it out forever
>>220634396I literally never saw this faggot go against public opinion. He's always "angry" only after people were thrashing something a game or movie for days and weeks.
>>220634551pretty sure he said it was a pulp fiction quote so you just proved you are a larper who pretends to know about politics
>>220635689>innocent until proven guilty should go out the window if you have an identical twin!
>>220636392well they just swept georgia so the democrats and independents who are fired up about it arent actually fired up enough to go out and vote
>>220633289why did Ryan lose his powers if he was born with them?
>>220632030he's kinda rightthe ending sucked but since homelander was actually evil in the tv show he could do more insane things
>>220639416>primary electionsCall me when we get the general.
>>220639005because the show is a lib corporate shit. The whole concept of The Boys in the comics is that the system is wrong, while in the show we are, again, at a point where it's not the system, but the bad people that makes the system wrong."But Vought is portrayed as evil!"Yes, because it's shown as a monopolistic entity without any nuance (there were this thing about super terrorist, but let's forget about this because reasons): to show the system is wrong you can't have a single element that represent evil incarnate, but a plurality of wrongdoings.In the comics, this is portrayed with the Vought being made of tons of people who works to make it successful while supes are just stars of the showbiz.Another element of how lib the show is, it's how they changed Starlight finale: in the comics, she retires, as one of the fews with superpowers that somehow survives (Butcher kills everyone... including Kimiko, MM and Frenchie). The message is that no matter how good you are, that power has not to be used. Meanwhile, in the TV show... she is just a superheroine doing something good when people are struggling. Basically, the message of this shit show is an edgier, more convoluted version of Spiderman's message about great powers and great responsabilities. All this because, hey, the show was successful, we can do spinoffs now!
>>220632143Really stupid fucking opinion. Film is a very different. Medium from a novel.Some times changes are not simply improvements but absolute necessities to adapt a novel to film.>>220632225N I G G E R
>>220639422TV show forgot that. That laser beam doesn't remove Compound V from blood, it just magically removes powers. The more you think about the show, the more it feels stupid.
>>220639530>downplay the whole soulless exec behind the scenes holding the real powerI wonder why that is>Produced by Amazon.Pivoting the history into being analogous to modern day politics was deliberate, the current shilling is deliberate too. All for some juvenile show everyone is gonna forget in a week.
>>220639650This shit game of shifting from the system to BIG EVIL was done in Mr Robot too, but Mr Robot is genuinely one of the best TV shows of all time.
>>220639914It really isn't, you just have bad taste.
>>220632030>Cloning bad.. but um... We essentially cloned Soldier Boy but his chest blast to the le heckin stronk woman! Faggots
>>220639428What insane things did Homelander do aside from teasing an eventual violence spree for five seasons?
>>220640078Uh.. rape?
>help an illegal alien and a brit is trying to take away my presidental powers!!!!
>>220634616literally not rape
>>220632030>cloning feels too magical for the show.But Krapmiko being lasered in half and then recovering like it was nothing it's not magical?
>>220640108Oh, so now instead of making Starlight suck him, he raped Butcher's wife offscreen. Great trade, really.
Homelander never remembers raping butchers wilfe and they made him an incel at the startIt looks like they planned black noir being a homelander clone to make him go crazy was planned in season 1
>>220632030retarded reasoning but still a good changethe twist worked for the comic but the series follows homelander more closely so he has to be more involved, if you want the "oh it was the evil clone secretly doing the evil shit" you can't show him just doing fucked up shit and those were the only good scenes in the series
>>220638442No, the comics were actually shit. Unreadable garbage with few good twists and concepts, with a competent writer, things would have been great.The issue with the show is that it lost their direction by doing the Amazon formula.>Make season 1>Clear plot, direction and consistent writing>Subsequent seasons are throwing shit on the wall until it sticks>No plans for an arc or a story's skeletonSame issue plagues all Amazon shows btw, each seasons are all disconected with each other to the point that nothing makes sense.Too many stories, characters and stuff to wrap up.
>>220638200>Doesn't Malchemical take the form of the fat kid to trick the one chick into telling him her secret fearYou are 100% right i forgot he did that. I just remembered him tacking the form of objects and gas. >>220638133At best Homelander is a dick who shows no actual concern for normal people or even other Supes around him. But he will exploit others for his own sexual gratification and that started well before the events of the series. I would not say hes better than everyone around him. He is certainly better than the more deranged supes around him and probably better than Billy in some ways. But he's not a good person.
>>220632030>“Plus, cloning feels like too — I’m going to sound silly — but cloning feels too magical for the show.I hate this argument because you can still do the exact same twist by changing it so its not a clone. >They used the same compound and process to make noir >More focused mental conditioning on him to make him their weapon>If they ever needed to have Noir actually kill Homelander they needed to replace Homelander>Noir has surgery performed to resemble Homelander >Noir gets to be the new Homelander replacing the old one he finally got to kill>Get a random dude to be the new Noir Now its not a clone and not too magical and silly. That whole thing is an excuse because Seth and Kripke think it comes out of nowhere because they are too stoned to remember what happened 5 pages ago.
Let's list all the bad things that HL did in the series and see if it amounted to him actually being THAT bad.
>>220634509The point of the comic was making ugly dogshit that low IQ retards would buy.
>>220638133If anything he is more relatable. His awful childhood made people wanted him to heal somehow
>>220640617That's the thing, meanwhile you see>Starlight and Hughie killing someone and never pay for it>Butcher using a bomb on a baby>Frenchie killing a family AND fucking the survivor, then tell him about it>Kimiko killing while dancing
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>>220632030>I’m going to sound sillyyes you sound extremely retarded you stupid hack, You have people in this show that go around strangling people to death with their anaconda penis and using their balls as a chain sickle weapon and you think you sound silly to say cloning is too far fetched? Fucking stupid jew