>people are crashing out they made Helen of Troy black and Achilles Trans in Nolan's The OdysseyDo people not realize Achilles and Helen aren't main characters in The Odyssey? Achilles dies before Odyssey even takes place
>>220640638yes they are
>Achilles dies before Odyssey even takes placeHe appears in the Odyssey poem as a ghost when Odysseus sails through the Underworld.
>>220640638>that armor>that sword>that MATT DAMON
>>220640638How could a filmmaker make this look even MORE dull, I wonder?
>>220640638kill yourself
>>220640638The whole cast sucks but the squeaky wheel gets the oil.
LOL Lmao even. This is exactly why we need AI. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Nrbw72ePpVk
>>220640638source on making achilles trans? just seems like a false rumor.
anyone seen the preview?
>>220640638Honestly Damon as Odysseus might be the worst casting decision. He doesn’t fit the role at all.
>>220640706>sails through the Underworld.Literally never happens
>>220642107most recent one was ralph fiennes, how do you go from that to fucking matt damon?
ok but where was Hercules during all this
>>220642420getting his head caved in by Kratos
>>220640638I know not a single ancient greek person was a nubonic nigger and that Achilles was a biological male and not a tranny freak>>220642007How does that work? They graft a dead nigger dick on 'it' or just enlarge the clit?
>>220640638>and Achilles TransFake news
>>220640677they appear for ONE SCENE each
>>220640638>crashing outfr fr no cap unc
>>220642200>How do you go from one good actor to another good actor?It’s called casting, my dear boy
>>220640638it doesn't matter, they are greek characters not schnigger transfaggotinos
>>220641604>Why does he look like Batman has sex with Magneto
>>220642535Fair, but most interpretations of Achilles was also wrong. He marched to the front of Troy to kill Hector because Hector killed his gay lover.If faggot yas queen Achilles can be depicted as the embodiment of masculinity, I don't see why he can't be trans.Also to be fair, the only scene Ellenot would probably get is getting shot with an arrow infront of Odysseus going "all according to keikaku"
>>220640638>Achilles and Helen aren't main characters in The OdysseyI don't care. Black/trannywashing is still both wrong AND laughable. Fuck off with your bizarre leftist diversity-brainrot.
>>220642600>they are greek characters not schnigger transfaggotinosthere's not enough faggots, obese burly men, and gays in Hollywood to cast everyone as accurately Bronze Age Greek
>>220640638Then don't make them black/transIt's that simple
>>220642580it's called miscasting for political reasons, gay
I've been around here a long time, and OP is like, top 100 faggot. Doesn't even make a good point. The jeets are failing miserably. They should all kill themselves, especially whoever wrote this shit. Faggot Op never even read what he's talking about. Just upset because he has no culture and is worthless beyond being a bottom to fill up with AIDs.
>>220642661>gay lover.You are trolling but I'll still say it. That shit is made up. It doesn't happen anywhere in the books. Not even hinted
>>220642120In book 11, Odysseus sails to the underworld. Get rekt nigga.
>>220643315The Iliad itself is ambiguous, you can interpret it like that but there's nothing explicit. But it was the near-universal interpretation from at least the early 5th century BC, like Aeschylus' Achilles trilogy depicted them as lovers.
>>220644243>The Iliad itself is ambiguous,No it's not. At all.Gay porn made centuries later has no relevance.
>>220644243If Illiad doesn't have it then it is not Canon.
>>220644407The reception history in ancient Greece has no relevance? Why? Because some random guy on a chinese cartoon website says so?>>220644408Show me the law that says only the Iliad is 'canon'. Different people had different views on what was 'canonical' or they saw it as literature and didn't care about canon. How about the parts of the story not covered by the Iliad or Odyssey, we only have later works about those. Guess we can't talk about those. But I bet you think the death of Achilles and fall of Troy are in the Iliad because you haven't read it.
>>220640638>Achillies is suppose to be the peak of male physical fitness!!!!Yeah, to a very gay society that thought big dicks was barbaric and tiny cocks was the peak male form. Also extremely gay. Look at all the pottery and the fact they did all their wrestling and sports oiled up and naked.>Achilles is suppose to be the greatest, most unbeatable warrior fighter ever and forever!!!!Because a literal goddess gave him fucking invincibility cheats everywhere but for the back of his feet...then he gets killed by getting stabbed in the back of his feet.Achillies is a faggy bitch boy
>>220644470>The reception history in ancient Greece has no relevance? Why? Because some random guy on a chinese cartoon website says so?because it's not in the book>Show me the law... blah blah projection strawman muh defense of non canon dogshit blah blah muh relativismStop making up rules to justify your mental backflips
>>220644408There is no canon in mythology.
>>220644534You don't need to seethe that much, fattie
I'm just not gonna see it is all
>>220644549You made that shit up, and you are wrong obviously
>>220642671>I don't care. Black/trannywashing is still both wrong AND laughable. Fuck off with your bizarre leftist diversity-brainrot.Hey, guess what...I don't care. Continue to cry about it, its funny.
>>220644538>because it's not in the bookAnon, this isn't lord of the rings or Harry Potter. This is actual myth.
>>220642671But whitewashing ancient greeks is okey dokey
>>220644567That was my first post in this thread.
>>220643291>They cast two different white men for the same role because… WOKE
>>220644584Name anyone in the Odyssey that isn't caucasian>>220644586and you are wrong
>>220644538You really think there's only one book that's 'canon' for Greek mythology? It's an entire cultural phenomenon that was continuously retold and reinterpreted. You are the pleb here.
>>220644573The book on my shelf says that it's a book
>>220644567he is correct. you only think in "canons" because you are a capeshit corposlop enjoyer. every town in ancient greece would tell you a different version of a given myth.
>>220644614>retold and reinterpretedthe little woketard is still misusing words, how cute
>>220644629even capeshit has ONE real version.>every town in ancient greece would tell you a different version of a given myth.Yet there is ONE Odyssey book, ONE Iliad book...
>>220644618The book on your shelf is just a version of the myth.
>>220644645>Yet there is ONE Odyssey book, ONE Iliad book...Lmao.
>>220640638No one cares lol Odyssues will make billions and rightoid subhumans will cry and shit themselves in the corner over it. Rightoid freaks have more than enough financial resources to put their money where their mouth is and build their own alternative ebic non-woke white only alternative Hollywood industry, they only own the vast majority of capital. Elon Musk could fucking buy Hollywood by himself. But creation isn't in the nature of rightoid subhumans, they haven't the slightest impulse for it, all they have is the tearing down and mockery of other's works
>>220644553Did I touch a nerve pointing out how gay Achillies is? It looks that way with how hard you're projecting.>I'm not seething, you're seething!!!!Says the guy butthurt about a casting choice for a movie he doesnt have to watch, haha. Ancient Greeks and Romans were a bunch of faggots by the way. Just look at all the dick pottery.
>>220644634the homeric poems are retellings of earlier oral storytelling which were themselves retold by eg attic playwrights.
>>220644657The book is the only valid version, and there is nothing you can do about it
>>220644679then prove it>>220644683it's not in any Homer's book. read it sometimes>>220644685which you can't present as proof and were all collected in one canon book
>>220644408So Trojan Horse is not canon?
>>220644645It’s a recorded version of a vocal traditional poem. It’s “definitive” only by the basis that we didn’t preserve or later find recordings of alternative versions
>>220644645>even capeshit has ONE real version.yes because there is a room of corporate stooges deciding which version is the real version. there is no such central authority in ancient greek culture, everyone is free to retell the stories however they see fit. that's the whole point: myth is not capeshit.>Yet there is ONE Odyssey book, ONE Iliad book...there was a million versions of both out of which one particular one got written down, and even then for every event in it there was a poem or a play or some other work that described the same situation in a different way, endlessly reconfiguring the same stories.
>>220644645Hhahahaahhhahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>>220644645Actually, there are NO books. The original stories were past down by oral tradition long before the poems were written down. The written manuscripts is just the version someone managed to write down.Its kind of like how the Bible has multiple different versions of itself and the stories existed long before King James had the first version written. It's also all fictional bullshit too.
>>220644679>>220644682>>220644683>>220644685>Political raid>no fucks given to the argument at hand>Just leftfreaks ranting about right wing as it wasn't everyone normal against them>>220644682>trannie meltdown about things that never happenedhow unusual
>>220644705actually, i can simply point to a different book and say that's the valid version, and you can't do anything about that because there's no disney corporation to tell you what is or isn't "real." you simply have to live with the ambiguity, a difficult task for autists.
>>220644751Nah, I don't need to read the book. I got the movie! :D
>>220640638Are they really have a jew play Agamemnon?
>>220640638its been confirmed that Ellen Page is not Achilles but EL PENOR
>>220644800i am more right wing than you and yet it is correct that there is no "canon" of greek myth.
>>220644645>even capeshit has ONE real version.Literally not true>>220644634Yes, they were retold and reinterpreted in works like Aeschylus' Achilleis, Euripides' Rhesus and Cyclops, Ovid's Metamorphoses, Statius' Achilleid, Plato's Symposium (where they discuss Patroclus and Achilles in the context of love), and so on.The myths were living traditions, not modern fantasy books, there's no "Book 2 in the Bumfuck Chronicles" for Greek myth. I'd encourage you to read some of the ancient works, they're very cool and you'll see there wasn't a 'canon'.
>>220644757>there were sources I cannot quote from 3000 years agoso it's definitive, got it>>220644783still no counterargument.>>220644790There are no books in you house, maybe, because you don't read and just watch ecelebs that radicalized you
>>220644772>>220644757>>220644685Glad not everyone here is fucking retarded
>>220644800>replied twice to same post in one postMelting down absolute chud-cel incel freak spotted. Deranged mentally ill behavior
>>220644800I don't care about your shitty american politics, all I'm saying is that the modern literary concept of "canon" does not apply to classic mythology.>>220644790There were written bibles before the KJV. That's just one English translation.
>>220644827Imagine your education level lmao!>>220644846>things that never happened proves things that never happened?>>220644850>muh relativismMade up shit.Stop repeating your party lines and read Homer (no Emily WIlson translation, tho)
>>220644888lmao, nice full house trips, also nice trolling
>>220644861>politics politics politics>>220644856samefag>>220644877yet there is only one canon and you cannot do anything about it
>>220644800>Political raid? That's new.You're not going to call me a jewish hollywood glowie astrotrufing the goyslopI'm almost offended. /tv/ just isnt the same no more.Also, the only ranting I see is people bitching about the casting choice.
>>220640638if you shot achilles in his achilles would he suck your dick and eat your shit? thats what they taught me in school about romans
>>220644906>nu hu>no argumentgo back to leftypoland read real books
>>220644908>replied twice to same postOdysseus by Nolan will make hundreds of millions and Lupita is objectively more beautiful than anyone else who has ever played Helen of Troy in cinematic history btw
>>220644913it's a a place to discuss movies, criticizing political bad casting is part of what we do here.Not that you would know anything besides what gets said by the ecelebs that radicalized you
>>220644877And someone probably wrote down the epic poems before Homer did. The point still stand, the "book" is just a retelling. The oldest surviving retelling but, a retelling all the same.
>>220644888Imagine not realizing you're getting fucked with. Lmao!
>>220644940>OdysseusYou can't even spell the name of the movie correctly, lmao>Try to prove you are not a low IQ political agitator with no interest or knowledge about the subject at hand challenge: IMPOSSIBLE!!!
>>220644572You did care when it was one of your sacred cows that got raceswapped, LMAO.
>>220644908samefag
>>220644983So you won't suck my dick and eat my shit?I'm disappointed
>>220644908>yet there is only one canonthere objectively isn't. for there to be a canon there needs to exist a recognized authority that establishes and maintains it, like what the vatican is for catholics or disney for marvelslop enjoyers. no such authority exists for grecoroman myth. this is a really basic point and if you can't move past it you'll just stay retarded forever.
>>220645006this fuckin glorified crew cant even suck my dick and eat my shit, fuckin betrayal
>>220640638>missing the point intentionally to pretend to not understand the issueFaggot.
>>220644952This is a place to suck off The Deep's fish cock and complain about movies and tv shows you didn't watch. Don't act as though this place is for intelligence conversion. You're in the shit pit, nigger! Lmao.
>>220644966Yeah, sure, but the bible is something else entirely.
>>220645027You are wrong, obviouslyDoesn't matter how much do you want it to be true
>>220645006only if you were the dress, anon-chan
>>220644986I was spelling it wrong deliberately, you melting down lil bitch-boy. You know that too, lil faggot
>>220645081We watch movies all the times, just not the shit you make because those aren't movies intended for normal people.Als oI would never trust someone who talks/writes like you to recognize an intelligent conversation
>>220640771I unironically think that it's impossible, it takes genuine talent to make something so mind-numbing out of a story like the odyssey
>>220645085it was an example. Don't put too much thought into it, I sure as fuck, didn't.
>>220645112>I'm just pretending to be an idiot, guys. I'm not stupid, you are stupid.Sure :D
>>220645093and yet you cannot formulate a reason why, you can only seethe. amusingly, this conversation even taking place proves i'm right: if there actually existed an unambiguous canon of grecoroman myth, you would be able to appeal to it instead of just seething.
>>220645112>joke's on you. I was being retarded on purpose.
>>220645122I know. I have a rough understanding of how the bible was put together, I was just saying, it's not the same as mythology.
>>220645150>most obviously deliberate misspelling of a word in human history was actually le an le accident or somethin. Le epic pwnd
>>220645113I don't care who you trust. You're a nigger and if you expected intelligence on 4chan, you're a stupid nigger on top of that. But by all means, try to prove your grand intellect on the website full of shit porn. Lmao
>>220645175>U MAD>If you contradict my retarded statement U MADI've already said that I've the books on my shelf
>completely defeated little bitch replied the same post twice, under the guise of being a different individual
>>220645181> it's not the same as mythology.>The BibleLol, what? You really are one dumb ass faggot.
>>220645188>I was obviously stupid on purpose!>>220645197Is there a punchline somewhere?I guess no
>>220645247Spelling the title of the movie obviously wrong doesn't constitute being stupid on purpose. What it constitutes is a fundamental lack of respect to your position and everything you stand for.
>>220642565so then why even bother with the diversity casting?
>>220645247The punchline is that retards like >>220645188 thinks anyone takes them seriously
>>220645213the books on your shelf, assuming you have a decent collection of grecoroman material, disagree with each other all the time. i can simply point to a different book than the one you're pointing to and it will say something else. you believe homer wrt the origins of aphrodite, i believe hesiod. now what?if we were catholics arguing about the bible, we could go ask the pope. but who can we ask when we're arguing about grecoroman myth? nobody. that's why there is no "canon." are you starting to understand?
>>220645301>melting down little bitch
>>220645274>Spelling the title of the movie obviously wrong doesn't constitute being stupid on purpose. Please stop, have some dignityYou don't know what my position is and what I stand for and you wouldn't even be able to say why it's supposed to be bad.
>>220644538You literally posted a pic of Caracalla, a roman emperor, the only thing worse that this horriblr pic is chuds thinking they any sth about antiquity.
>>220645303I can tell you right now, no that retard doesn't understand. Hell, I doubt he even has the books...or even a bookshelf.
>>220645317>I'm not being humiliatingly made fun of. They are mad, and that's... on them?
>>220645317you're butthurt because you got called out for being a retard. Don't worry anon, the thread will get deleted soon enough. :D
just chuds chudding out for no reason just put a black character in there somewhere for a couple of seconds and hordes americans and racists will sperg out99% of them don't even know helen is from the illiad and not the odyssey
resident troons really think they're on the frontlines, beating back the chuds one post at a time by defending the multibillion dollar studio's latest piece of corporate shit.
>I did twenty years... TWENTY YEARS!!!
>>220645371>99% of them don't even know helen is from the illiad and not the odysseylike how you don't know that helen is actually in both poems?
>>220645344You really didn't know what to add the thread, right?>>220645303You have said nothing of substance. Again.Read the books and stop being mad because some eceleb told you so>>220645349I can tell you right now that you are just projecting your lack of basic literacy
>>220645387>beating back the chudsMaybe if they beat me off I'll stop.
>>220645371Name one black character from the Odyssey, blackwasher
>>220645371honestly, I dont even give a fuck about the movie. I'm just having fun shitposting and making fun of the one butthurt faggot.>>220645317>>220645301Thank you for making this thread fun for me :D
>>220645416>Read the bookswhat is the origin of aphrodite?
>>220645356No lies spotted. Where was the "humiliatingly being made fun of"? I'll wait. Keep in mind I'm constraining myself right now from shitting in your existence.
>>220645416>stop being mad because some eceleb told you sooh i know where this is going, say the grifter word next, youve been dying to use it
>>220645387The don't even know what they are defending.They are just repeating some lefty eceleb line drowned into an endless flood of "chud mad!"Pic related is not completely pertinent but...
>>220645439You're never having fun. You're kinda like the Hulk, cause you're always angry, but without any of the physical potency. Lupita is objectively more beautiful than anyone else who has ever played Helen of Troy in cinematic history btw
>>220645416Ok, post a picture of your bookshelf, faggot. I'll wait.>>220645438Helen of Troy :D
>>220640638im crashing in ur asshole nigga
>>220645475>I want to mass-murder kids something something>here's a jpgEvil incarnate btw
>>220645409she is the main plot point of the illiad just a minor character in the odysseyanyway if it bothers you that much go watch the other 10000 movies about it with only white actors
>>220645505sure will, but why is it getting you so worked up to see people talk shit on this one?
>>220645505>just a minor character in the odysseyis athena a minor character in the odyssey?
>>220645480Ok, I fucked up and tagged myself like a retard (>>220645439) when I meant to tag >>220645188I was never planning on watching the movie, I don't care that Helen is played by a black chick. I hope she nails the role, it will only result in more hilarious melt downs on here. Also maybe the movie will be good and Ill have a reason to watch it.
>>220645573>I was never planning on watching the movie, I don't care that Helen is played by a black chick. I hope she nails the role, it will only result in more hilarious melt downs on here. Also maybe the movie will be good and Ill have a reason to watch it.lmao really earning your pay there shilly
>>220640638Helen is referred to as white-armed and of beautiful hair, with a face and features closer to gods than mortals. She is also similar to her Dioscuri brothers, being their sister. They, we know, had paler skin given a tan by the sun.Achilles is explicitly reddish-boonde, "xanthe" is one of his epithets.>>220644243Plato was the biggest proponent of it. In all fairness, it's possible to interpret it that way. It's also entirely plausible that Plato, as a young and athletic man with an unrequited crush and infatuation on his older teacher(s), was projecting hard.
>>220644534>invincibility cheats everywhere but for the back of his feetRoman invention, it isn't in anything of Homer and I think Ovid is the first to mention it.
I'm just disappointed they didn't find real gods, giants, mermaids and all sort of monsters to act their historical roles faithfully.
>>220645616and now helen is a bald black chick.>>220645637You do realize its all fiction, right?
>>220645416That's my adition: you faggots run around like owning or knowing about antiquity, but all you have is a memesurface knowledge of anything. Americans are incapable of anything ever at all.
>>220645450>random discrepancy = 1000% relativelol>>220645452>I'm not being laughed at!>>220645453It would be refreshing to see that word used appropriately once, yes
even when right wing retards control all branches of government and have all billionaires sucking their dick they will still throw a fit if they see a black character on screen lmaoit's all about being the perpetual victim donald trump is the worlds most powerful man and he will still whine for days on social media because someone said something mean about him
>>220645659>You do realize its all fiction, right?Then stick to the bookalso ancient greece and greece were/are real
>>220644854It’s a version. Definitive only in the sense that is taught today. Saying it can’t have ever had other alternative versions is wrong because it’s all oral history, shit would have change all the time based on where it was recited and who wanted to use it. You had centuries of different people claiming they were descendants of figures from Homer’s poems, you don’t think they might have retold and modified the poem to suit their political ambitions?
>>220645480>>220645483>>220645500>>220645505>>220645659>>220645663>>220645759You are crying so hardyou are only here to shit your politics
>>220645793The present those alternatives if you can.You can't.
>>220645739>random discrepancythere would be no discrepancies if a canon existed, because that's what a canon does, eliminates discrepancies. what is the origin of aphrodite? who killed agamemnon? where was helen during the war?
>>220645781England is a real place, that doesn't make Harry Potter real. The Iliad and the Odyssey has literal monsters and sorcerers in it. Are you telling me the cyclops was real or was that too, a Roman invention?And again, the book is not the definitive version
>>220645003I dont have sacred cows. I'm not pathetic enough to get butthurt over stupid shit.
>>220645899you are however exactly pathetic enough to expend the same amount of effort on something you say you have no attachment to
>>220645416>>220645213I'm still waiting for you to post a picture of your bookshelf, faggot
>>220640781Shut up nigger
>>220645942As I said before, I just here to fuck on >>220645317 and >>220645188and to see the one faggot not post a picture of their bookshelf.Still waiting for that bookshelf
>>220640638As a porn addict I love trannies
>>220640638>Be one of the giga chads of Greek heros>Those armsWas he too busy being a liberal cunt to actually train?
>>220645821No that's not what canon is, and again you saidnothing of substance.There is only the book, no mtter how much it makes you seethe
>>220646043>Still waiting for that bookshelfWe both know that you won't accept it as proof of anything. You are just hoping to make him stumble, but you will still act like a chimp either way.Will you admit that you are full of shit and retreat to the hole you came from?
>>220646106As a politics addict, I defend trannies
>>220645240Shalom
>>220640638I think you'll find that athena is a nigger now
>>220646184Matt Damon will always be miscast in everything unless he's playing the retard
>>220646265Is there anyone in the cast that isn't ridiculously miscast, letting the gross politically motivated blackwashing aside for a moment?
>>220646222All that faggot had to do is take a picture of his bookshelf with a paper saying the time, date, and /tv/ and that would be proof. He doesnt have to be in frame, nor should he.But that faggot doesnt have a bookshelf and I'm bored now.>>220646259Shalom, nigger. The bible is a book of myths and all gods (including the Abrahamic ones) are also myths.Now give me your foreskin!
>>220646043>theirAnother slipping mask moment kek
>>220640638shut the f*ck up
>ELPENORFormerly LEVAGINE
>>220646421Wow, you really are that retarded that you don't understand proper usage of possessive pronouns. Do you think pronouns or the word "their" is a leftist invention? Go back to elementary English class.
>>220646404Stay mad, politicstard illiterate
>>220646574Nobody normal uses them that way, just like Y'allyour mask slipped, future detransitioner
>>220646574Why are you inbreds so hostile all the times, and always getting more and more hostile the more you are proven wrong?You came here to vomit your fringe politics, you were kicked in the ass... just go away, or get humble
>>220646299can you even call it casting when it's the same cabal of actors brought on for every Nolan movie?
>>220646510>The cast is not political, chud!lol
>>220646614not him but have you ever said "they"?if you have then you're a tranny, kiddo
>>220646692I don't even call products like these "movies", but I didn't want to be pedanticliterally school play effect
>>220646712>Leftist pretends to not understand what is being discussed.All the timesI, like any other normal person, use it only for the 3rd person plural
>>220642535They remove the vagina tunnel and the womb,take some meat from either the arm or the leg and shape it into a log shape and attach it to the place where the pussy used to be and make a ballsack out of pussy lips and stuff it with 2 plastic balls,then once it heals they do more surgeries to more finely shape it into a more penis like shape and add a penis pump with a switch hidden in the balls so it can get hard just like a real penis can and there you go your penis is complete.
>>220646755it might be time go back
>>220646758Few years from now it will be mainstream opinion that this shit is in the same camp as nazi medical horror experiments
>>220646680ok, faggot. What politics did I come to "vomit" and how was I proven wrong. HE didn't post HIS bookshelf yet.>>220646614I dont even know if the two posts about owning a bookshelf is from the same person. So yeah, the proper use is "their." You should also try to stop seeing imaginary trannies everywhere. Oh, and relearn English, faggot.
>>220646768>U MAD - NO U - GO AWAY when btfoedQED
>>220646790its weird, I knew the trans shit was completely and 100% pushed and fabricated. I guess I just noticed it came completely out of nowhere, like a tranny wave, then it disappeared as soon as USAID was shut down. Prob one of the only good things Trump has done besides deport a few people. Anyone else notice that too? The whole trans out of nowhere shit for a few years. Obama planted that seed with his bruce jenner horse shit. What a faggot piece of shit he was and still is
>>220646796You are so so mad at being btfoed and exposed that you didn't even see this >>220646585are done lashing out?
>>220646807It could only exist as long as normal people didn't catch up with what they were actually up tonormality always wins in the end
>>220646796>Grasping at straws this hard
>>220646790Nah.Few years from now on it will have even more approval than today.
>>220646807>translation: I didn’t pay attention until right wing bigots made hating them a giant culture war issue again and kept spamming it everywhere and that was “artificial propaganda forcing it down my throat” and then they “disappeared” when I stopped giving a shit and was busy crying about black mermaids and the Odyssey
>>220646585HOLY FUCK YOU ACTUALLY DELIVERED! I CAN GO TO SLEEP KNOWING YOU'RE NOT A COMPLETE FAGGOT.Seriously, good show. You actually fucking delivered.>>220646820He delivered. I have no reason to believe you are the other poster. You're still a faggot.
>>220640638Both Achilles (as a ghost) and Helen appear in the Odyssey.>>220644243It isn't ambiguous, Patroclus and Achilles were like brothers, they were raised together and fought along side each other in Troy for 10 years. To be depressed and wanting to avenge your brother in arms is normal, it doesn't means that they were lovers.
>>220646912>The culture war came from the right winglololololol>>220646921Yeah, you won't post yours tho
>>220640638Will the studio be glad there is so much negativity surrounding this movie? As in, all publicity is good publicity, or will they engage in damage control?
I think it's easier and more honest to say that you don't want to see some lazy, hollow, modern ugly metrosexual adaptation with no style at all, with a self mutilated freak and disgusting niggers on the screen, rather than to argue from the perspective of "historical accuracies". It can be fun seeing how they develop the source material in their own personal way, like the original God of War games series, which is alright and can be imaginative to explore it from different perspectives. The problem is that america nowadays is mostly concerned in arguing who's the gooddest shabbos goy of them all rather than producing decent entertaiment, so you have these idpol ads humillation rituals pass as movies nowadays rather than a cool action adventure that can be enjoyed fondly.
>>220647011I dont have one. I never claimed TO have one. I pirate the books I read onto my phone. oceanofpdf.com and audiobookbay.lu I read through the entire Horus Heresy, Dan Abnett's Inquisitor series, and a several other warhammer 40k without paying a cent via those two websites. Currently reading Betrayal at Falador because I got the OSRS itch but dont want to give Jagex any more money. I'm not trying to prove a point, just offer a useful resource. Anyway, I'm not such a whiny bitch to admit I was proven wrong. Once again, >>220646585 good show. I was originally just shitposting and got bored hours ago. I stuck in this thread this long to see if you'd show proof of the bookshelf and you did. You have my respect, I'm going to bed.
>>220640638im just pissed they made matt damon odysseus, i hate that guy
don't care, not gonna watch it
>>220647237I lied, I have one last shitpost left. Now, I'm going to bed.
>>220646510Zeus does commit a lot of non-consensual sex, so it might be fitting that he is played by a nog.
>>220647217yeah we got it bud, you're so cool and detached that you were just hanging around here replying to every post, even though you don't care about anything as much as anyone else
>>220647246That's cool, it's still going to make billions
>>220647318It's a fake list you dumbass.
>>220647311hodor
>>220647501Why's that my problem? I didn't make it and I'm not paying to see it. What's the point of getting jealous that retards spend their money on stupid crap?
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>>220640638Damn thats crazy. Not watching it. Plus nolan is past his prime.
>>220640638>that makes it okay somehowdilate tranny
>>220646890It has zero approval nowadays tho
>>220647501>billionsA non woke movies would have made twice as much, while getting respect instead of mockeryAlso imagine being this butthurt about money that will never land in your pocket
>>220640718I love Matt Damon but a movie about age 55 Matt Damon as Odysseus is too much willing sense of of disbelief. This is role best giving to a relatively unknown actor like the one that started in 300Also blue eyed Matt Damon is Anglo Saxon, get a Greek looking actor to play Odysseus, one with dark eyes>Ancient Greeks generally looked like modern Mediterranean populations, featuring olive to light-brown skin, dark brown or black hair, and dark eyes.
>>220646024>calls me a niggerare you just retarded?
>>220648857Unlike Helen, Achilles and others, Odysseus is never described as blonde etc etc, therefore he should default to someone more greek looking.Fuck Matt Damon
>>220642200ralph fiennes is another blue eyed Anglo Saxon that looks like the guy that played HomelanderGet a Greek looking dude to play Odysseus>>220648857
>>220649058The guy that starred in 300 is another blue eyed actor from Ireland and Scotland but at least he has a Greek look with that nappy Greek hair. He might actually have Greek in him.
>>220649557And see how they got rid of his blue eyes with contacts or CGI? Looking at an guy with blue eyes playing an ancient Greek is weird
>>220649583Of course they had to add some Ayran eye candy for us blue hair blued eyed to be happy? I really only cared about the actor playing the main role. Other than his wife I don't remember the rest of the actors
>>220649619>blonde hair blued eyed
>>220640638Maybe this is secretly Nolan's attempt to show the world how retarded diversity-based casting is. Even the most staunch pro-diversity liberals are calling out how bullshit this is, so if that's his plan it's definitely working.
>>220640781You know what? Nobody remembers those hissyfits. Absolutely no one.
>>220640638Ok
>>220640638>troon character dies before the story even properly startsBravo Nolan
>>220642107Nolan just picks friend of his and give him mainrole without thinking about it.
I've seen the trailer and not 1 single black actor appears in it, what are you guys talking about? Are you just imagining things to be mad about again?
2024's The Return was/is better than this upcoming Nolan slop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrZqQBA9v3Q
i don't really mind that Helen of Troy is black, but i mind that the black they chose is fucking ugly, repulsive even.i mind that they cast a tranny as Achilles though, that's a step too far. just because you're a fucking tranny doesn't give you a right to star in movies and steal roles away from normal well adjusted people.
>>220646758My dumbass Gen X dad unironically thought these freaks can legit genderswap their chromosomes. Retard thinks it works like magic. Same dumbass thinks adding another keyword to a searchbar will find the thing he's looking for, when one keyword didn't.
>>220649058How is Helen of Troy described?>Homer's Iliad: The original texts by Homer provide surprisingly few concrete physical details about her hair or eyes, allowing each reader to imagine her. I imagine she looked like>Marina Sirtis is a British-American actress of Greek heritage. Born and raised in Hackney, London, she is the daughter of Greek immigrants Despina and John Sirtis. Her ancestral roots trace back to Greece, with her mother originally from Kios and her father from Athens.Or some other Green actor good for my Big Fat Greek Wedding The ancient Greeks were famous for liking their women fat>The "Pear-Shaped" Ideal: In a society where malnutrition was common, having soft, rounded curves indicated wealth and the ability to eat well. Sculptures of goddesses like Aphrodite idealized a pear-shaped physique: softer faces, moderate-to-large breasts. Very thin women were typically associated with the working class or slavery.
>>220649837but they still happenedand STILL happen and actors can't take roles and have to drop roles because of muh whitewashing while you faggots do whatever you want and try to sweep the rest under the carpet.
oh shit are niggaz crashing out fo real 100 100
>>220649837apparently someone did because they made the pic
>>220646585>reading the greeks in fucking italian
>>220649557He was spot on.>>220649619>Of course they had to add some Ayran eye candy for us blue hair blued eyed to be happy??
>>220650055
yeah
>>220640638it's called having standards.
>>220640638Did Hades turn Achilles into a tranny as a joke?
>>220650202>Same dumbass thinks adding another keyword to a searchbar will find the thing he's looking for, when one keyword didn't.This shit happens a lot, and I don't understand how can it happen to people who learned how to navigate analog archives and dictionaries
>>220640638We're talking about shit eating now, redditor. Pay attention to the meta.
>>220650636Is there any age at all, according to these cretins, where people weren't globalized and infinitely mobile? And age, let's say, where there were only greeks in Greece?
>>220650282Helen of Troy, a half-humanCharacter they gave Marina:Deanna Troi, a half-human >Troi had telepathic abilities. Due to her half-Human heritage, The guy they got to play her human dad, Mr Troi, also looks GreekBy 2399, Troi and her husband William T. Riker lived on the planet Nepenthe with their daughter, Kestra >The name Nepenthe originates from ancient Greek mythology and literature, literally meaning "anti-sorrow" or "banishing grief". It translates from nē- ("not" or "no") and penthos ("grief" or "pain")>first appeared in Homer's epic poem as a mythical Egyptian potion. In the story, Helen of Troy drops the drug into wine to dispel all sorrow, anger, and painful memories.>Literature: The concept was widely adopted by later writers seeking a symbol of ultimate solace and forgetfulness. It famously appears in Edmund Spenser's The Faerie Queene, John Milton's Comus, and Edgar Allan Poe's poem The Raven
>>220650608To blonde haired, blue eyed people like me, we look down on non-blonde hair/blue eyed peopleWe associate with the Germanic tribes that struck fear and terror in the dark flaccid eyes of the Greco-Roman faggotsGuys like Matt Damon and >>220649159are Germanic, specifically Anglo Saxon But with that flat mongoloid looking nose, Matt Damon probably isn't pure Germanic like me
>>220650955to be fair. The siege of Troy was during the Bronze Age. When the world was so interconnected that when 1 city fell, it causes a society level disruption to the entire Mediterranean.2 Cities falling caused the entire era to collapse.Yes it also involved dark skinned Egypt before they became Roman
>>220651634Now his butt buddy, Ben Affleck, that's a guy that actually looks Greek.
>>220640638That's a good point actually, better Ellen to be Achilles than Polites or Athena or someone with a lot of screentime.Still shouldn't happen though
>>220649619For historical accuracy, they need to make his teeth look all disgusting as in 8th Century BC they all had the most disgusting teeth by modern standards. Modern dentistry was born in the 18th century, and it became a formal, educated profession in 1840.
>>220640638glad you're adapting>it doesn't even matterif it doesn't matter then why should I care about the movie?
>>220652067>>220649619Also for historical accuracy, all these dudes need to be manlets>Skeletal remains recovered from early Greek and Mediterranean sites paint a clear picture of physical stature during the Iron Age and the dawn of the Archaic period:>In the 8th century BC, the average height of ancient Greeks was roughly 167-170 cm (5'6" to 5'7", same size as Messi) for men and about 153-157 cm (5'0"-5'2") for women. This is highly comparable to populations throughout Europe at the time. Exceptionally tall men occasionally surpassed 190 cm (6'3"), which couldn't even make an NBA roster today (have to be at least 6-6)Compare to today:>The average adult height varies significantly by region and gender. In the United States, adult men average about 5 feet 9 inches (175 cm)>the Netherlands—tend to have the tallest populations, with average male heights reaching 6 feet 0.4 inches (183.8 cm).
>>220640638A hate the whole cast.
>>220652349Also 300 was clearly written to target faggots and women as they stripped them pretty much completely nude. This part should have been obvious to anyone even if you didn't know they actually looked like pic related
>>220650282When she first got into acting and the directors had her strip naked, I'm sure they liked what they saw
>>220650636I never saw my grandfather and he could absolutely be turbo nigger even though I'm ginger with green eyes