Unironically I think the reason this ending feels unsatisfying is the same reason wider narratives around heroes and villains falls flat>YOU THINK MIGHT MAKES RIGHT HUH?>WELL ACTUALLY IM MIGHTIER THAN YOU SO YOU LOSE, THIS PROVES MIGHT DOESN’T MAKE RIGHT>YOU WANTED TO HUMILIATE PEOPLE? THAT’S WRONG>YOU LOSE BECAUSE YOU ARE HUMILIATEDIt’s bizarrely an affirmation of the villains worldview despite attempting to dismantle themThe Boys never had cohesive or strong writing before this and regularly had weirdly hypocritical plots, mainly focusing on just trying to ape whatever was happening in the news that month but I guess people expected them to pull it together for the ending for some reason.
You mean like how Starlight is a permanent victim for agreeing to blow the Deep for a job but starlight blames Hughie for being a rape victim and the narrative agrees with her?
>>220644019I think they make it pretty fucking clear in the show that she was having a woman moment
>>220644019Or when she murders a guy to steal his car and the show says it's his fault for owning a gun. Then they never bring it up again.
>>220643998This frame keeps making me think of Sanguinius desu
When I do it, it's rightWhen my enemies do it, it's wrong
>>220644019Starlight got over her rape faster then the people on this site did. You fucks bring it up constantly when the show moved passed that seasons ago.The Deep is a shitty person because of all the shit he had done before and after, the fact that he never takes responsibility for his actions, and for being an incompetent and pathetic clown sucking Homelander's farts.As for Hughie getting raped, the show does show that fucked him up a bit and that he constantly goes through some of the worst shit in the show...and yet it never breaks him. The whole blaming Hughie, I interpreted, as her being wrong and that the situation they are all put in had mentally fucked her up. By the end of the show, all of The Boys have done really fucked up shit in order to save the world from far worst people. Hell, the end of the show, she's closer to Butcher in terms of morality than she is to Hughie. I think she would have had Butcher pull the trigger.
In fact, out of the entire show, Hughie (and Mother's Milk) is the only, still truly, moral character out of everyone. Hughie isn't just Butcher's conscious, he's also Starlight's. Starlight is not the "good guy," Hughie is. She is trying to be the good guy but, without Hughie she would be no different to Butcher who is a bad guy fighting a much worse guy.You don't have to agree with every single action that the "good guys" do all the time. The writing of the show isn't great but I do think you guys missed a lot of nuance just so that you could bitch and moan instead.
>>220643998>another threadhave a (You)
>>220644316>ai generated answers for a show no one watcheslol kys
>>220644316>starlight got over her rape fasterHuh? She had a permanent victim complex over it
>>220644316>Starlight got over her rape faster then the people on this site did.She wasn't raped. She had to choose between decency and integrity, or ego and being a whore, and she chose to be a self-serving whore. She had the utmost agency in the situation, could have done anything she wanted, and what she wanted was to suck cock and pursue gain.
>>220644417You missed out on obvious shit. By searching for any kind of depth in its writingWithout fail, look at interviews with kripke post that interview and he always says the opposite. He literally had to be reminded by Anthony Starr that homelander isn’t trump for the final season
>>220644316Wish we could add "this post is AI generated dogshit" to the list of report types.
>>220644781>this post sucks dick and eats shit
Half the people I know loved the finale, the other half hated it.This is just culture wars by proxy, innit?
>>220645675>this user appears to be a samefag
>>220645733most people samefag their own replies. newfags get really caught up using 4chan it becomes a little game to them. most people write lies in general for engagement
>>220645694The half that loved it also unironically enjoy SNL so who cares what they think.
>>220643998Because everything about the leftist ideology is inherently self-defeating and retarded and it only exists because the actual right wingers were too busy killing each other the previous millenia so the world gets inherited by the weakest most worthless people just as Rabbi Yeshua prophecizedthe weak aka leftists due to their inherently weak inferior nature will just destroy themselves in the end and the strong will return to power
>>220643998It’s not affirmation, it shows bullies are weak bitches who crumble the second they can’t bully others and can’t take it themselves. The lesson is don’t be that asshole because eventually you’re going get it too and not like it.
>>220643998>It’s bizarrely an affirmation of the villains worldview despite attempting to dismantle themI was writing about this earlier, glad to see more people picking it up. I used the example of the moral of thousands of stories that's best expressed as the political cartoon of an injun saying "when are you leaving" to someone advocating against migration or for secure borders. The point being made is essentialist; it's injun land, they own and deserve it because they were there first. In fact they SHOULD have had strong borders, and evil whitey should have been forced to stay in Europe where he belongs, that would have made the world better. Which is of course affirming two core points they were trying to criticize. The actual argument they're making is that "(YOU) don't get to do that, but everyone else can".Similarly these "anti-fascist" stories ending with the evil bad (white) man being shot/beaten/humiliated by someone stronger/smarter/better all carry the same fascist thinking at their core. It's good that Homelander dies begging for his life, it's good that the (homophobic) offer to suck cock and eat shit is made so he's humiliated (because doing this would degrade him so). Violence is bad only when I'm not the one holding the gun.
>>220643998Its written as a tragedy and you should look up Dr Henry A Murray and how he created the Unabomber (Unabomber being our Homelander)
>>220643998What really sucks my cock and eats my shit is that Homelander is the only fucking character on the entire cast who had harmed Vought, the actual source of like every evil on the show, in any meaningful way whatsoever.They killed him, and so what? What did that actually accomplish? They're exactly where they all started. I guess Hughie learned to have relationships with tougher girlfriends that would survive getting rammed by drugged out superheroes? What a fucking retard.
>>220645842If they won by not being murderous retards, I guess the ones killing each other while leaving no one behind were the actual self-defeating mentality.
>>220645766>most people write lies in general for engagementYeah but now nobody reacts to anything because there's been too much farming
Homie had a plan guys
>>220645843>it’s not an affirmation>proceeds to just say “its ok when you use the enemies tactics against the,”
>>220645879Capitalism, son.The house always win.Stan Edgar is back at the top. Business will resume as usual.Killing a handful of roided supes by shoving bombs up their ass accomplishes nothing.
>>220645900I guess butcher had already watched the episodehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-7fnrCADtA
>>220644431>>220644781So is this the new cope? Anything you disagree with but not smart enough to make a reply to must be AI generated?>>220644500You know what "death of the author" means? Even if I were to take anything you say as true, it doesn't matter.
>>220645925Homelander was surrounded by incompetent sycophants or people too afraid of him to disagree with his retardation. The few people that gave him any backchat had their own game running and were planning on backstabbing him anyway. Even if he had won that fight against Butcher, Ryan and Kimiko in the oval office he would have eventually met his very own Brutus or just gone completely insane because civilization as he knew it would have crumbled as the only people that were left to maintain it would have been his genuine low IQ believers who he doesn't respect and whose worship he doesn't even value. Power matters but it isn't the only thing that matters.
>>220645766Engagement is such a zoomoid thing to want. We used to write posts to show off how clever and funny we were.I don't understand saying stupid shit and then being happy someone called you stupid. Trolling isn't real.
>>220643998>YOU THINK MIGHT MAKES RIGHT HUH?>WELL ACTUALLY IM MIGHTIER THAN YOU SO YOU LOSE, THIS PROVES MIGHT DOESN’T MAKE RIGHTpeople misunderstand that sayingits not moral philosophyits a warningIf i destroy you what business is it of yours.Si vis pacem, para bellum
>>220645785Hey now, plenty of retards here on 4chan defend Norm MacDonalds on SNL even though he's unfunny as fuck
>>220643998there is so much cope coming out of you as if you have coperophila or something
>>220643998The only proper theme that could be applied it power corrupts, but the obvious issue is that the interests who create this slop really dont want people thinking that.
>>220643998Because leftists have no morals, they only appeal to YOUR morality to stop you from defending yourself. The writer of this filth is a jew with terminal TDS, so of course he wants everyone he hates (literally anyone who doesn't 100% subscribe to neo-marxism, look at how the left ubiquitously supports trannies claiming they want to rape and kill Rowling) to be humiliated and killed.
>>220646390>Hey now, plenty of retards here on 4chan defend Norm MacDonalds on SNL even though he's unfunny as fuck," he lisped.
this show sucked my cock and ate my shit
>>220644019>>220644316>Starlight got over her rape>rapeI hope your mom meets a pack of blacks in a dark alley during the sweltering summer of '92
>>220647019>this show sucked my cockApparently to libtards that's RAPE
>>220643998I think them making the main plot that came out of nowhere be that homelander wanted to become god entirely doomed the series.What does him wanting to become god even parallel outside of some barely remembered dot points about the Roman empire, that have 0 relevance in any recent society.
>>220643998It feels unsatisfying because Homelander hadnt fucking done anything "bad" for viewers to witness for fucking ever especially in the finale. Oh he killed A Train boo fucking hoo. Even Antony Starr is liking and commenting of those videos of the fan made horror like videos of Homelander going crazy and destroying New York and slaughtering people with lasers.
>>220644316She could have just left Vought building.
>>220646159It would have been nice to show the logical conclusion of Homelander’s powerlust. He had full control of the military and law enforcement for a year and did nothing. The whole last season should have been him destroying the country as The Boys worked on the radiation blast. But they’d rather spend their budget on celebrity cameos and 12 subplots that never went anywhere.
>>220647172It's funny when you think there is a literal police state and the Holocaust going on in the background but it's barely mentioned, and it's entirely unclear who is even running it. By the end homelander has alienated or killed everyone on screen character around him but it doesn't actually seem to have any impact on anything going on in the country because all you see is he still has people running his clips in some sort of theatres
>>220647187He needed to have some different motivation for the last season since he had no opposition left close to him as it was written and they put everyone who said anything bad about him in the gulag off screen
>>220647310That was the worst part for me. Not the gore or dialogue that can’t stop being about cocks and assholes. It was how small the world felt. You never saw how the country reacted to Homelander’s actions. Everyone just rolls with him carrying out human rights violations. They couldn’t even make a fake Twitter or TikTok screen of people worrying what he’d do next. The whole last two seasons didn’t bother with extras.
>>220643998The way you're completely devoid of a moral or ethical compass and are constantly seeking it on TV shows is both baffling and hilarious. I seriously hope you're just a teenager.
>>220644109;_;
>>220644109boss baby?
>>220647405It gave the impression that simultaneously no one was governing outside of homelander having a handful of b team morons like the cat lady running around doing errands for him but also it was literally nazi Germany
>>220647405it's media that relies on you caring about it just as little as the creators
>>220646991You're a whackjob.
>>220643998Incase you're so dumb to understand writers and why they act this way in the end of their show.They know most of the media is run by hyper progressive jews (many women), this finale was pandering to them. Why? becasue they are now out of a job (the show ended), and are looking for a new one. So they are pandering to the people who will offer them a new job in the future.They don't care if they shit all over the fans or the show itself, they are looking for something new to write after this and are pandering directly to the people who can offer them that new job.
Why do people act like what the Deep did is so horrible. He just dropped his pants in front of a girl that admitted to having a crush on him, then she gets weirded out and leaves. It wasn't rape.
>>220643998Homelander lost because he was stupid not because Butcher had a stronger super power than him.He intentionally let Butcher get away like 100 times.He gave him as much time as he needs to find a counter to him.He learned Kimiko unlocked the super power destroying chest blast and didnt care he just let her casually stroll into the white house and get close to him.And then suprise Kimiko used her chest blast he knew she had to destroy his super power and he died.He had a million opportunities to stop this but he was either retarded or deep down he wanted to die.
It's the same shit with Superman vs the Elite. Supes didn't like the might makes right shtick the Elite were doing so he gives them ap taste of their own medicine. But this only proves that might does make right because he had to do that to stop them.
>>220647642Does this even make sense it can't be good for your resume to have this universally shit on poopoo parade on your resume just because it was supposed to own the chuds, no one has thought the show was any good for ages or had any attachment to it.
>>220647103How is it rape if she CHOSE to suck cock?
>>220647694he lost because Kripke wrote it that way
>>220647708Critics loved the episode. It has a 97% on Rotten Tomatoes. The writers and most actors will have no trouble finding work. But Erin Moriarity has an uphill battle ahead of her. She can barely emote or pronounce syllables. That scene where she was supposed to be shocked at Deep’s murder? Barely anything on her face.
>>220647889>But Erin Moriarity has an uphill battle ahead of her. She can barely emote or pronounce syllablesBecause she bogged herself beyond the point of no return
>>220643998>written by jews that hate white people and want all white people dead>said jews are obsessed with faeces and the consumption of it>there are clearly a significant number of people on here that eagerly swallowed every morsel of the anti-white, anti-human propaganda for the last 5+ years, right to the end
>>220643998Hence Butcher becoming the final villain just like in the comics, and another villain Star Edgar becoming the winner in all of this.Superpower beaten by Raw Strength beaten by Money.
>>220643998The Boys never had these morals retard
>>220643998It felt weak cause it was weak. The deep homelander as the main big bad left really. Both of them are dumb mental cases. They didn't even have any super goons with them other then the black guy supe.
common sense will tell you that you need to fight fire with fire as they say. but the difference between the good guys and the bad guys is that the good guys choose to stop once the job is done. Power is only a problem when it's out of control and misplaced.
>>220648161O father was a terrible character, we never really see his motivations other than hes a moron who spent to much money and needed a bailout and so he just locks in and goes ahead with everything seemingly with no problems other than giving some very minor protest about delaying the god thing
>>220648269O Father was such a bland non-character I thought they introduced him in season 4 and I just forgot.
>>220648291Arguably o father was the main villain of the season which makes it even worse
>>220645936Releasing the virus would've. It's like destroying the entire military industrial complex with 1 click.
>>220648269I thought he was alright as a mid season villain that they’d take down to damage vought as they work their way up the ranks. Sadly the show dropped that shit after the first season
>>220647142>that have 0 relevance in any recent society.I'm sure some warlords in Africa attempted something like that.
>>220648400There is an unintentional self own in not releasing the virus they know the IP is probably dead, but they want to be able to bring it back so instead of giving us a satisfying dooms day ending the world is just back to how it was in season one with no real change the corporation wins in making the show worse
>>220646325Nailed it. And as for me personally, I think we’d live in a better world if everyone adopted this stance all the way down to a personal level. The wealthy and powerful wouldn’t be so flagrant with their disregard for the law if they thought that it meant never again sitting down to a meal that someone hadn’t ground glass into. People like that would understand, at long last, that they need the rules far more than we do.
>>220646991I think you’re projecting
>>220648511The virus is their “break glass if you write yourselves into a corner” option for future spinoffs.
>>220643998the show has nothing interesting to say, half the episodes were dick jokes.
>>220643998At this rate, we will catalog every film star and generate posts depicting every piece of media that contains an outrage or groveling scene. This archive will anchor an entire generation. Seventy years from now, the youth of today may casually utter, “I’ll suck your dick, I’ll eat your shit.” The phrase could even appear engraved on tombstones. Artificial intelligence will absorb this data, marking one of the most significant cultural inflection points in data science that history has ever recorded.Researchers themselves may one day echo the sentiment.Eventually, we may discover that many famous and powerful individuals have literally and metaphorically done both of these activities when power dynamics were subverted. The scatalogical reveal will shatter and resound across the globe. The expression will etch itself into quantum consciousness, until even robots proclaim it. It will erode all context, meta irony, irony, and basal layers of awareness. The frame of reference may collapse entirely, reducing the phrase to something simply said, a non phrase stripped of all meaning. Zero entropy, zero variation, zero significance. The entire sum of existence distilled into one elegant formula of words: “I’ll suck your dick, I’ll eat your shit.” It will prove prolific, intriguing, and incredible. We can only imagine the wonders that lie ahead.
>>220643998>muh hypocrisyoutcomes matter, chud. everyone with an IQ above 90 understands that violence gets the final say. reasonable men are forced to be hypocrites in this shitty reality we find ourselves in
>>220647508N-no
>>220644316None of what you said addresses the fact that Starlight never faced any repercussions for victim blaming Hughie. Imagine if the genders were flipped and Hughie spent an entire season blaming Starlight for having her purity defiled.
>>220643998Because ultimately might does make right and humiliating someone does work. The weak hide behind soft power because that is all they have but the second they get ahold of some actual forces they use them.
>>220643998He looks like Conan here which makes me feel sad.
>>220644019Or how Starlight killed someone and got away with it? Same with Hughie? Or Frenchie being given a beautiful death despite him killing a family and grooming the kid who survived?
>>220650311boss baby?
>>220648026It's just kikes and their paid indians doing massive damage controlEveryone knows the trump flanderization ruined Homelander's characters and even Starr called kripke out
>>220647458This! Only teenagers can analyse writing failures in tv. Real philosophers like us use reddit
>>220650271So you are saying nazis did nothing wrong
>>220650383Dilate faggot what I said was in my post.
>>220647172The opposite even, people felt bad for him because of S4 showing his bad childhood and him trying to make things right with Ryan We also see his mother figure literally having sex with him
>>220643998That’s what makes this show, and a lot of modern media, complete ass. The writers don’t seem willing or able to stand behind any value strongly enough to give the story a meaningful conclusion. Postmodernism has trained many of them to avoid treating any belief as more valid than another, so when it comes time to deliver wisdom, conviction, or a real message, there’s nothing there. The story never truly chooses what it stands for.
>>220650419Ok so nazis did nothing wrong
>>220650437Western products want to le hurt you now for some reason, that constant bitterness is why they are losing to japanese products
>>220643998I think the ending is unsatisfying because this flawed and nuanced character had no arc whatsoever, he was Flanderized and then died learning (and frankly doing) nothing meaningful. The whole show is proof that the TV business is full of completely useless chowderhead nepo-babies who don't deserve (and cannot do) their jobs, but we'll put up with it anyway and watch them get paid forever because they're the chosen people.
>>220645842>Rabbi Yeshua prophecizedoh watch out guys!! the atheist is here! he’s gonna call us “christcucks” because we believe the religion that’s foundational to whites and western civilization!
>>220650506We must be punished for liking the characters the cucked writers dislikeImagine if we got a Johnlander moment
>>220650345His name's Conan too? I thought it was just Boss Baby.
>>220650469Who said anything about that? Why are you bringing this up out of nowhere?
>>220650503Talk to a genXer (who are the ones writing all these shows, not the millennials who keep being blamed) and they're all misanthropic doomsday cultists who think the world is going to end because of global warming or trump or something. They're basically boomers but worse.Anyway, they legit think the world is doomed so they just spend their time shitting up the place as much as possible on their way out out of spite.
>>220650583Will they ever accept it's yids doing it? Trump is just a puppet
why did this season feel so cheap? Say what you will about late stage Game of Thrones but at least you could see the production value of the show on screen.
>>220645842>DUDE JESUS IS JEWISH Reddit is two clicks away
>>220643998It's unsatisfying because we got this nonsensical battle stuck in one room over an epic bloodlusted superman rampage.
