>>220683209
All you have to do to tame this freaky little bitch is to institute a system of positive/negative reinforcement. If you do X I won't love you but if you do Y I will love you. I'd have her trained within a week.

>>220683209
Sorry for asking again, will I enjoy this movie if my only real wish is getting killed by my oneitis after we have sex? The screenshots gives me some cool vibes.

>>220683515
Sure

>>220683209
the average male is extremely starved of attention so yeah, this movie might just be a Chad horror thing but not for the average guy

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All this retard had to do was wish for a billion dollars and he could have fucked Nikki. Imagine wasting your one.Wish on a fucking bitch.

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>>220683209
Looks like somebody is going to get their dick sucked and shit eaten

>>220683209
nah, I can't stand when women are clingy and obsessed with you. it's cringe and repulsive

>>220683675
Some of us could handle it

>>220683599
Yeah, imagine wasting your one wish on a fucking bitch.
Especially a non-virgin who fucked your friend.

I'm 32-years-old and have never had a girlfriend. This movie pissed me off because it reminds me that women piss and shit just like we all do. How do guys handle it? Having sex with their girlfriends knowing that they dispense fecal matter from their assholes and urine from their pussies. Disgusting. What's even the point?

>>220683209
Haven't seen the movie, but I definitely wouldn't mind it.

She was a straight up bitch who strung him along the whole time. She never told him she was sleeping with his friend — even though everyone else knew. She loved the attention and enjoyed having him simp over her. She knew he had a big crush on her but deliberately kept it quiet because she didn’t want him to move on.
That’s some cold, manipulative, bitchy behavior. She knew exactly what she was doing and got off on secretly humiliating him while keeping him on the hook.
Fuck her. She got exactly what she deserved.

>>220684038
It's a disgusting lie. Of course women don't piss and shit. They are beautiful angelic creatures that bless unworthy brutish men with their mere attention. One looked in my general direction and smiled once. It was the greatest experience of my life and I'll treasure it always.

Me when I got back to my basement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-wU2CsUOLw

>>220683209
Nah but I'd eat it though.

>>220684222
Finally a based fucking take and trips

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>>220684289
This movie is actually worse than you think.

You can just tell it's some allegory about women getting into a relationship with a guy for whatever selfish reason, and how it's like some kind of a 'living Hell' for them to go through the motions with a man they don't really like and continue to pretend they like him. Then it's somehow all his fault for not reading her mind, noticing her passive-aggressive 'signals', and sacrificing his own interests to release her.

Not even kidding. That's obviously what this is.

A woman's wedding vows, promises, and other shit she said to convince you that she loves you too, just so she didn't have to spend her nights alone, had someone to pay her bills, or wanted to get married before all her friends did - they aren't her fault in her own mind - they're yours. You wanted her, wooed her, and locked her in just like you used a One Wish Willow to 'make' her do it.

She wakes up one day and ACTUALLY BELIEVES you somehow tricked her into the situation because you're an evil, selfish, uncaring man, and that justifies her doing any crazy shit she wants to get back at you and make you end it.

That's the truly scary horror here. That this shit actually happens to men IRL.

You best start believin' in the crazy delusions of women laddy - you're in one!
>I mean most of you aren't, but even if you do get into a relationship it will be some shit where she's 'settling' for you because you're not Chad.

>>220684836
Lmao dude, one of the first things that cross my mind wwas that literally most women throughout history have been married off to some guy they're not truly in love with and most of them have just dealt with it throughout history. Vilarious, that this is depicted as some like, truly horrific hell like she has 0 love for this guy. So the experience of being forced to love em is just like apparently the worst thing on planet earth

Women compress their waste down into a cube. Once a month they eject the cube, which has come to be known as their "period", the cramps and bleeding are from the cube-extrusion, as it has sharp corners. The fiction of "uterine lining being cycled out of the body after building up all month for no reason" has been constructed to conceal the female waste-ejecting process. Think about that from an evolutionary perspective, why would the body spend resources building up the lining of the uterus when there was no babby even in there? It doesn't make any sense, it would be like if your teeth fell out every month to make room for new teeth. It's a waste cube.

>>220684836
>even if you do get into a relationship it will be some shit where she's 'settling' for you because you're not Chad.
it's funny how I alternate between all consuming jealousy and apathetic resentment. I prefered being single to be honest, but I can't do that now I'm old and jaded. The dating game is hell on earth.

>>220683209
Nigga dat mogged dabbed based

>>220684038
I handle it by wanting them to do it in my mouth

>>220685193
>it's funny how I alternate between all consuming jealousy and apathetic resentment.
Oh so I'm not the only one? What happens to me is I'll be apathetic and then if i see a genuinenly happy couple or passionate sex scene I get very triggered

>>220683209
Stop watching goyslop for morons

>>220685418
It was actually pretty good

>>220685037
Yeah but back then you didn't get divorce raped when you cheated on your cold bitch of a wife or when she cheated on you. Nowadays you do. Dumbass.

I wouldn't date her, but I would lick a black man's semen off her breasts

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don't take dating advice from 4chan (formerly 4channel)

Isn't she a beaner?

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>>220686248

>>220686172
((formerly formerly just 4chan))
Newfag

>>220683675
This. I can't imagine being that much of a pussy worshipper you like that.

>>220686310
>Just give it a year. The real world is coming for him, and it’s not going to be gentle.

>>220685037
Dis nigga has Tourettes

>>220684222
HOLY PROJECTION

>>220683675
Only immature losers would think they want this, it's much hotter when a woman doesn't want you but still succumbs to you

>>220683776
no you couldnt


its extremely unattractive

HELLO? WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE MOVIE?

>>220683675
>>220686743
What are you talking about. Would you rather her not like you? Would you rather date some insatiable, apathetic, thousand cock stare thot that will go out clubbing every night?
Maybe I'm just ignorant because I've never had sex in the context of a relationship, but how bad can clingy women possibly be for so many guys to get annoyed by it?

>>220686890
take a wild guess anon

>>220687153
CAN YOU JUST ANSWER ME NIGGER?

>>220687223
What is with this OBSESSION with the film's name

>>220687223
Its called Obsession

>>220683599
Isn't it supposed to be like a monkey paw shit? Maybe being ultra rich makes you miserable or something. Looks at Musk and Bezzos they don't seem to be very happy.

>>220686172
everything on this website is fiction

media literacy and critical thinking will set you free

>>220687289
People were saying that, but I don't think so because the clerk at the store said that he had used his one wish and he was doing fine

Plus the director said that the problem was the wish itself

imagine fighting your way from hell then having to do a balancing act of being subconsciously awake but physically asleep to beg to be killed just for Bear to go
>"Is muh dick that bad?"
Bear got off relatively easy compared to what he deserved.

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>>220687289
>i wish i had a billion dollars
>room instantly fills up with cash and you're crushed to death

>>220687633
Why does everyone assume Bear wasn't gonna help her after this? He was trying to sneak out and talk to Sarah. What do they expect of him, to get a gun and kill her?

>>220687691
Because the film shows us that Bear only wants out because the social consequence of his wish has become greater than the social gain of dating Nikki, not that he cares about the real Nikki.

>>220687682
My name is Callipso and thank you for playing Twisted Metal!
https://youtu.be/nMRbin3aQ-Y

Im not going to watch it so you can stop spamming now.

>>220687349
I think any wish that is self-serving and puts you above others ends badly. His friend died shortly after asking for a billion dollars.

>>220687289
has anyone tried asking for more wishes?

What if you wished for a marxist leninist government to form in every country on earth?

I'm confused. Did you guys like go outside and pay money to see this? I'm unsure how so many of you have seen it. Thanks in advance

>>220687898
Because he got killed by nikki, genius. Nikki also killed Sarah who had made no wish. There is no monkey's paw. The one wish wallow just works, you get what you ask for

>>220688016
Yeah we put on pants and everything. The call of the kino can make one do crazy things like that

>>220688016
Yeah I went to the matinee today. I have a kinoplex within walking distance in my house. I wfh so I went during the wordkay lol

>>220687115
I agree honestly also as a virgin, I would only get annoyed if she was constantly getting jealous or if I wasn’t answering her messages fast enough, but I think I could handle it if she constantly messaged me and constantly wanted to be around me, even if she got annoyed cause I wanted to do something else.

Yes I’m a simp, no I do not care

>>220687898
>>220688037
The Reddit threads when he looks it up are also evidence that the outcomes are mixed. Some are good some are bad

>>220687289
No it's not a monkeys paw type thing. At least, not inherently. Bear's problem was the wish itself. I mean, it probably could have made her fall in love with him without being psychotic and without giving her a dual personality, but I guess it's a fuck you from the wishing willow for messing with someone's agency.

>>220688345
Apparently the Willow couldn't completely destroy Nikki's will. So it was like forcing her to love him against her will and that was what she was fighting against?

Idk

>>220688037
>Because he got killed by nikki
Yes in a karmic way

>>220688345
>but I guess it's a fuck you from the wishing willow for messing with someone's agency
You had it right up until you wrote this. No man, the problem was within the wish itself Bear specified an actual intensity of love. "I wish nikki freeman would love me more than anyone in the entire FUCKING world."
Freaky Nikki was constantly experiencing a supernatural level of love and infatuation that's normally not humanly possible and so far away from where original Nikki was (in reality, she had unexplored feelings for Bear) that it resulted in a new distinct entity emerging that supplanted her original personality.

>>220688535
>Nikki also killed Sarah who had made no wish

>Obsession has earned $30.2M in its first week at the box office. It has already passed the entire runs of “Heretic” ($27.9M),” Midsommar” ($27.5M) and “Together” ($21M).
That's awesome. 750k budget kek

>>220688656
Yes, but I'm gonna be a poindexture and mention that it was acquired by Focus Features. For like 15 million and they've been marketing the shit out of it. So it's not really only $750k was spent.That was just to make the movie

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>>220688226
me when I lie on the internet

>>220689075
I'm confused, isn't that just what I said

>>220683209
Mind? She'd be creeped out by me, spell and all. I'd quit work, and just stay by her side AT ALL TIMES, even when she's taking a shit.

>>220687289
The problem is she doesn't actually love him. She just becomes possessed by some entity or whatever. She's still in there and still disgusted by this beta.

I liked it, but the ending was retarded. Now Nikki is just going to go to prison for murdering two people. Bear should have killed her and claimed self defense.

>>220688780
No it's good to point out, but I was talking from the director's perspective. I'm happy for him he's only 26

>>220689321
Maybe that anon was referencing the middle comment in that pic?
To be honest if one wish willow's were real and I tried it and it worked, I would pretend they were fake as long as possible. Then again, I already got my wish. what do I care if other people know about it

>>220687115
It's degrading for the woman, men are not worth that much attention.

>>220689750
>Then again, I already got my wish. what do I care if other people know about it
The more people know the more word gets around. Next thing you know you have scalpers buying up all the wishes jacking up the prices, then the government gets involved and starts limiting who can have wishes, then you'll have Temu quality wishes that are actual monkey paw situations.
It's a slippery slope

>>220689937
Yeah, but I've already got my wish, so I don't care if the price of other people's wishes goes up.

>>220684836
the movie was directed by a man. It's obvious this is about dating a BPD hoe

>>220689937
Anon, you missed a point in my stream of consciousness post
>I already got my wish
so it's literally not my problem lmao

>>220690097
what if someone wished to undo your wish, smart guy?

>I wish that I was the most handsome man in the entire world while still retaining some physical characteristics I identify as "me" and that I live an unnaturally long life
One of the rules says you cant wish for immortality but I bet wishing for a longer lifespan is fine. You could say that contained two separate wishes but if it's invalid I just wont be able to snap the willow and will have to try again presumably like when Bear tried to make a second wish, or it only does the first wish so I just become perfect looking with a regular lifespan. You could easily cash in on your looks so a decent sum of money would come eventually anyway. It's dumb and boring to wish for currency

>>220690185
that is just so incredibly unlikely
>smart guy
yeah watch this
Why would someone waste their ONE wish on negating my wish? The hate required to do that is incredible and I don't have any drama in my life.
Why would I tell people that I made a wish, ever? Except for maybe someone I really trusted

Also I think the concept of wishes being available in a store to the public is fucking absurd if you think about it for two seconds because someone could just wish for the world to end or something dire along those lines. SO, there intrinsically has to be a sort of whimsy to the whole situation. Magic fuckery going on to where anything good or bad that happens to you is relatively localized.

>>220690274
I mean your wish isn't entirely contained within your experience. If someone gets affected by it they could undo your wish out of their own self interest. Unless your wish is entirely altruistic or intangible like "I wish I was good at carpentry".

>>220690274
>>Why would someone waste their ONE wish on negating my wish? The hate required to do that is incredible and I don't have any drama in my life.
you must be new around here lol

>>220690407
>If someone gets affected by it they could undo your wish out of their own self interest.
You need to offer an example if we're gonna discuss this.
Anyone can do anything, but if we're talking about likelihood here (someone with an average IQ), their wish would not negate your wish but would instead put themselves in a better position.
Say you were a dumb teenager who wished to be the most popular guy at your school and your friend learnt of the wish and got jealous, depending on how he worded the wish it wouldn't stop you from being popular. For example "I wish I was more popular than anon" that wouldn't stop you from being popular, you'd just be #2 popular now. An interesting idea would be what would happen if they made the exact same wish as you word for word. You cant both be the most popular person at school. And you cant both be equally #1 popular because that's not what you wished for. Would it be by determined by order of wish date maybe? The new wish overrides the old?

>>220683284
congrats, thats how women worked before the modern era.

>>220690550
your example was good enough to prove my point. Better yet two rival highschool football players wishing they won the tournament. Since the store clerk says you can get someone else to undo your wish then he who wishes last wins. So if you already made your wish it becomes your problem

>>220683599
Or simply add a trigger word
>I wish she became so obsessed with me when I say the word "nigger" and saying "nigger" again will stop her obsession until I say "nigger" again
Easy

I would suck her pussy and eat her shit.

>>220690755
The point of my post was to demonstrate that you would both still be in a better position post wish than before which was not your position.
>Since the store clerk says you can get someone else to undo your wish then he who wishes last wins
No, that doesn't follow. I was speculating with that idea but that's all we have. Wishing to specifically negate a wish and wishing for the same thing which introduces a logic problem are not the same thing.

>>220690588

Incels pretending that they know anything about women will never not be funny.

>If I had just been born 500 years earlier, I would have the perfect obedient teenage tradvirgin bride that I deserve instead of crying about da evul foids on 4chan!

No, you wouldn't, Rajiv. You would have been killed like all weak men were back then.

>>220690919
Oh yeah tough guy? Well let's travel back in time and have a rewarding physics bending experience, ultimately changing our controversial viewpoints and learning to grow as humans together. Ironically, we'll both be better men by learning to compromise and the nature of the entire time space continuum will also be compromised, just like the trad virgin bride I have sex with, presumably, you too indulging in a similar process with a peer of hers. As we are mates. Time travel mates you unbelievably twatty niggerfaggot, good for you man.

>>220690919
>>220691170
After the time travel journey you both are going to end up gay and just having a trad gay marriage
enemies to lovers

>>220687349
I unironically think the clerk at the store was a demon or some evil entity

>>220683209
at least she wouldn't divorce me. so, no child support no alimony. I consider that a win, even if she devours me after sex like a black widow

>>220689987
This. And this is just like how those bitches are. Only time I've ever wanted to kill myself was when I was dating a BPD bitch. When she had her good days she would be worshiping me and letting me do anything to her for as long as I wanted, and loving every moment of it. Then the next day I would be the source of all her misery and she'd be trying to do everything to get me fired or fuck up my day. Never, ever date one of these psycho bitches

>>220690799
nikki might try to kill you when freaky nikki is gone

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Movies about genies just trying to do their best?

>>220693228
I wonder if he kept freaky Nikki in line and just kept the relationship going if real Nikki would eventually start harassing him at night or learn to gain back her control slowly

>>220690919
Incels would be entirely different people if they were raised 500 years ago.

>>220693365

Oh, I know. There's a reason why incels (and femcels) did not exist before the internet became ubiquitous.

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>>220693278
Aladdin and perhaps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_in_the_House

guys who claim to want this and think they could handle it have never been with a woman. hell most of you probably couldn't handle a normal woman when she's on her period, let alone a full on psycho.

>>220683209
This movie sends the wrong message. She’s the upgrade a loyal passionate girl who cooks for you over being a normie thot girl.

>>220693278
To be fair, the genie in the sketch did everything the kid wanted.

>>220686193
Half white half Mexican

>>220687349
Clerk at store was fucking with him just like woman did at beginning when she joked bear could die if wish didn’t work out. Secondly his wish could been premature before it came to bite him in ass

Freaky Nikki sends some disturbing voice messages if you sign up for that text message thing

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>>220693517
Anyone who says they want this clearly haven’t watched the movie

The air was charged by the distant call of the night bird.

His face was obscured but, I knew he was looking at my chest.
Each side stretching, recently matured to different sizes.

‘Hansel? Come lie with me like the old woman taught us when we were children.’
I said.

He closed the door and leaned against it.

‘You’re not my wife, Gretel.’
He said.

‘I’m more than your wife…… I’m your sister!’

Hansel flinched, and reached for the doorhandle.

I knew he would not leave this place.
He would relent, and choose to be inside me like he had many nights before.

If not, I would flay his meaty forearm, roll it like a stick of licorice and insert the flesh between my legs.

Hansel is my soul.

A love, only the branch of a willow tree could conjure.

Brother… you will be inside me tonight.”

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>>220683209
>russian movie about a magic room that makes any wish come true
>>philosophical reflection on self serving nature of man making the magic room useless and not a threat to humanity as a whole, despite little to no dialogue
>american movie about magic funkopop that makes any wish come true
>>lol pussy shit dick puke simp chad whore sex
Why are europeans so much better than americans?

>>220693761
Russia is the pornstar and prostitution capital of europe, dude

>>220693845
Their media is still better regardless.

>>220693761

Counterpoint: The Green Elephant and countless other Russian films of that ilk.

>>220683209
I would suck her clit and eat her shit if you know what I mean

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>>220683209
All this pussy faggot had to do was pump his new doll full of cum so she felt loved. If he fucked the shit out of her like she wanted she wouldnt be acting like a demon and shit in the middle of the night. Most avoidable deaths in film history.

>>220693992
The stoop was acting like such a pussy man like I don't get how your crush gets naked in the bed and you aren't just immediately fucking ear

>>220693992
What a nightmare. I'd hate this.

Dude was a faggot. He knew the other girl was into him before he made the wish. Sarah was so much better.

>>220684222
She asked him to his face if he was into her. If she was truly stringing him along she would've not needed to ask.

>>220693670
Shit reads like something out of an EroGuro AO3 Fic

Though the real question is, was that Demon Nikki's story or something the OG was cooking up that she wanted hidden.

>>220693670
oh shit, how'd you get this. thanks that sounds right from what I remember

>>220694242
Why are you replying to a mentally ill loser like he is interpreting things rationally

>>220688427
It was probably something more like the original Aladdin, the wish granter couldn't change her attitude, because it wasn't omnipotent, so it gave her a new one that supressed the old one.

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good woman

One could just wish for all Americans to die, and that would undo a lot of previous wishes

The discussions about this movie are insanely retarded. People, especially on Reddit, think Bear is this rapist who possessed a girl with a demon so he could violate her consent! The movie is actually a decent horror film with some respectable jump scares thats really about how young men are so afraid to court women, even when they clearly like them, they would rather a magic genie make the woman fall in love with them. They don't know what love is so it just becomes OBSESSION. WOAH!

>>220684222
trvke. redditors won't like this one

Has a high quality recording of the corner/vase scene been posted anywhere yet? I want to rewatch it

I hate bpdemons and this film triggered me

>>220683564
If incels are so lonely and starved for attention, why don't they start dating each other?

>>220684222
>she strung him along
Fucking how? By saying more than 2 words to him? They go out of their way to make it clear she sees him as just a friend, she says "eww" about him multiple times to his face

>>220693670
I assumed this was "real" Nikki bubbling to the surface subconsciously through her writing.

The subtext of the poem is suggesting Nikki loved him like a brother which is part of what is creating dissonance between her and "freaky Nikki" she's revolted by the idea but compelled to act due to the influence of the wish.

>>220694590
Oh yeah tough guy? Brohana Jones my old nemesis yeah? Why don't you go out on a date with me you cheeky binter? No gas left in the tank? Fuck off you cunty mate o' mind, I'd lick the tartar sauce off your supple body if you were my sushi girl. Disenfranchising young men for a goddamn meme, get it together my brother dude before I nut ya' one you ego driven, occasionally poignant, silly goose cunt idiot.

>>220683209
any good copies of this out on pirate sites yet?

>>220683209
>incel gets the girl
>realizes they're insane
Pretty good premise. A shame that the discourse surrounding the movie is "he demon raped her", which sure is what happened in the movie. But in real life BPD women actually act like this.

>>220695148
Nope, she had unexplored feelings for him. Actress herself confirmed it, but the movie made it very clear.
>she says "eww" about him multiple times to his face
You dont understand this type of girl or any girl probably

>>220695875
>even the actress said
well case closed then

>>220695832
Manipulative men are easier targets than mentally ill women

>>220695894
if you have any other misunderstandings you'd like corrected let me know

>>220695832
It's telling how many of them have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to bpdemons. They'll drain you, sure, just not only of your cum

>>220695917
Depends, will your further answers be as flimsy as "umm ackshhually the actress said..."?

>>220683209
Man was eating rotting meat and couldn't tell?

who the fuck gets a wish granting device in the modern age and doesn't immediately lawyer the hell out of their wish? severe skill issue.

>>220695954
First off the guy you were replying to originally is a completely mentally ill moron so I agree what you said that she wasn't "stringing him along." My reply to you is just me disagreeing about her not having feelings for him. She did.
The actress helped Curry craft the character of Nikki btw. I'm sorry if that upsets you. I said the movie made it very clear and I'm happy to be more specific about that.

>I cant talk to anyone else about this stuff except for you
Nothing substantial on its own, but I'll include it because it hints at deeper feelings for him.
>No one knows when I have a crush on someone
This falls in line with the "ewww" moments. Nikki is very guarded, as is Bear. It's shown in the movie that despite his crush, Bear doesn't actually know much about her and vice versa.
>Do you like me? Because now is the time to tell me.
I'm paraphrasing all these quotes the best I can remember but it's something along those lines. This is the big one.
She's literally being as forward as she possibly can be to someone who very obviously likes her but hasn't said anything yet. She's giving him the chance to ask her out, because she would have said yes. Girls dont ask that question to bully you and immediately say no. They just wouldn't ask the question. If you think they would, Nikki is not that type of person.

>>220696061
I think the movie framed certain things in a way to muddy the water a little bit, like when she said that she likes a guy with feminie qualities after he orders a gay drink.

>>220695954
>>220696061
And by the way, the movie is only better for this being the case. You're literally playing into the reddit narrative of "this movie is about a nice guy loser who took advantage of a woman who never would have slept with him." No, a layer of tragedy to the story is that she would have given him a shot. She liked him. He didn't have to make a wish.

>>220696061
>She's giving him the chance to ask her out, because she would have said yes. Girls dont ask that question to bully you and immediately say no.
lol
i agree with you about the movie though

>>220689987
This. My gf saw it and said, "That's what I'm like off my meds. Not even kidding." Save me 4chan...I'm in too deep...

>>220696112
Oh yeah that's a good moment to reference. I agree, it is absolutely ambiguous on purpose. I am just positive the scales are leaning one way more than the other and again Inde has said she believes Nikki's had feelings for him.

>>220696168
lol I'm sorry you've had bad experiences idk what you want me to say. Nikki is not the type of girl to do that is what I followed that up with

>>220696186
im just another random anon that has been following the discussion and was reminded of a some bad experiences, all good man. was just having a chuckle.

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>>220683209
Holy fuck no, I'm having flashbacks to a girlfriend I had for almost a month when I was 19 and she almost got me killed.
>be me
>at a music club
>cute goth girl comes over
>an old school friend of my friend's girlfriend
>we flirt, she's really into me, I drive her back to her place, we fuck
>but she's REALLY overdoing it, basically narrating all of it, overreacting to everything, just really off-putting
>finally nut and she says "I hope the condom broke"
>should've realised then she was insane
>she got more and more clingy with each passing day
>broke into my house saying she forgot something there but she actually took my hoodies and some photos of me
>she started using MSN to threaten all my female friends into blocking me
>I met up with my sister and this crazy bitch keyed my car thinking it was another girl
>decide to break up with her
>she starts having a fucking breakdown
>grabs a knife and threatens to kill herself
>I get it off of her and she runs to the window
>not high enough in her block of flats to die from jumping but she still claims she will
>eventually backs down
>I go to leave, and she gets in the car with me and refuses to get out
>only wearing her dressing gown
>I say I'm driving her to hospital, she clearly needs help
>we stop at traffic lights
>she starts screaming and waving at the car next to us
>says I'm kidnapping her
>guys get out and start getting aggressive
>I drive off, they follow
>she's laughing like a maniac saying I'm going to get what I deserve
>pull up to a police station for safety
>the guys are still there
>they're still aggressive
>police are luckily there and calm them down
>I tell the police the whole story
>the guys apologise and leave
>the police take her in for me
>she goes with them, telling them I raped her and beat her and threatened to stab her
>they have to take the accusations seriously and detain me as well
>only got released because they had a file on her from previous "boyfriends" she'd gone mental on

>>220696181
The thing 4chan never mentions about bpd girls is they can get a lot better. Basically just ending up as pretty normal, slightly needy, very loving people. It doesn't even take long term meds, it's mostly just therapy
>inb4 "therapy"
It works for this. Therapy in this context is having someone impartial that can question them when they get crazy ideas and recontexualize what they're feeling. The impartial observer element of a therapist gives them a safe environment to do this.

>>220696197
no worries. fuck whoever that was I got your back anon

>>220696237
Wow
I think the lesson here is to not have one night stands

>>220696253
>they can get a lot better
That may be true, but they need to figure that shit out before getting into a relationship.

>Therapy in this context is having someone impartial that can question them
Therapy absolutely does not help when they're having a meltdown. Therapy may help reduce the severity and number of meltdowns, but they will absolutely still happen.

>>220696293
I think the lesson is to let someone kill themselves when they threaten to, and to simply say "Ok" and walk away. Seems like that would've solved his problem?

>>220696237
and your friend or his girlfriend didn't think to warm you about her?

anyone here played the coffin of andy and leyley?
after they killed Sarah and started burying the body together I really got that vibe. Bear is a similarly weak willed pushover as Andy who will always just take the path of least resistance in his codependant relationship, no matter how extreme that path becomes. there's an alternate ending where Bear didn't get pushed over the edge by Sarah's death and instead they have to go on the run and he's trapped in this relationship

>>220696293
It wasn't intended to be a one night stand at the time, just a really intense and rushed start to what I thought was going to be a relationship, because she seemed cool and quirky, it was just like the mask started slipping once her clothes were off.

>>220696377
Assuming she actually would've done it, instead of just threatening it for attention/insanity, that is. If I had just left, all I would've had is a now pissed off and potentially violent stalker still coming after me, looking for new ways to try to fuck up my life. If anything, I was lucky she got in the car that night and it ended quick after that.

>>220696476
Neither knew. They'd been in different circles since school, random chance she was at the same venue that night.

>>220683209
>crazy Latina
Guy is right where he wants to be

>>220696377
Legally speaking, if your GF/Partner is at your house or shared space and she threatens to kill herself. If you just say "okay" and leave the area, and she actually does, are you at fault?

The lesson is to never date someone with borderline personality disorder

>>220684222
>—
Nice try Chatgpt.

>>220691336
brave and powerful, this is everything

>>220696563
there was a woman who cheated on her boyfriend and while on a phone call he threatened to kill himself and she told him to do so. She was arrested after he died

>>220690203
>I wish that I was the most handsome
The toy can easily misinterpret what handsome means.
>while still retaining some physical characteristics
Very risky things to say "some". How much or how little is some? The wish could take away your arms and legs.
>It's dumb and boring to wish for currency
Maybe, but it is pretty safe.

>>220696652
I remember that. Thats also completely different though, she basically bullied him into going through with it, which is completely different from ignoring your GF and leaving the area.

>>220683209
>ask friend to make a wish
>he wishes for a billion dollars
>right in front of both of you a billion dollars shows up
>drive home
>he shows up 1 minute after you to tell you it works
??????

>>220684836
using the power of the magic "love me more than anything" spell it should have been possible to train her.

"Don't do this or I won't love you." now in order for her to adhere to the magic curse she has to never do certain things.

But noooo, we just have to have the monkey's paw curl and can't show anyone being capable of working out how to easily defeat it because it was written to appeal to the basedcuck modern men that watch "horror" films to try and feel like real men.

>>220696667
>misinterpret
nope >>220689075
>The wish could take away your arms and legs.
What the fuck made you think this. That line was included to not just morph into a perfect looking human who otherwise looks nothing like me which would cause huge damage to my psyche. Physical characteristics means maybe my eye color remains, the general shape of the mouth, a birthmark, things like this.
Before you argue about misunderstanding "physical characteristics" and that it was a bad choice of words, that's not the end of the wish, I say "that I identify as "me" right after. And given that the general wish is to make me the most handsome person in the world I assume that would probably include all of my limbs attached.
>Maybe, but it is pretty safe.
It is. I dont know why you would say that though. Based on everything else you've said you should be arguing that the money falls on you and kills you or it's in jamaican dollars or some bullshit monkey's paw interpretation that you're applying to my wish for no reason. Get off my back pal

>>220683209
>wouldn't even mind this shit
You're gay if not demanding this shit

>>220696770
He did that throughout the movie. She would do something fucked up and he said she can't be doing that. The demon would apologize and do it again.

>>220683209
Did they ever explain why she got the nickname Freaky Nikki, and why that nickname triggered her so much? Wouldn't Icky Nikki roll of the tongue better?

>>220688219
As a former virgin, that shit gets old and stressful fast.

>>220696717
Yeah, I think that’s the film’s only major flaw. It has a lot of strong individual scene ideas, but doesn’t always know how to connect them. A lot of it feels forced, though the scenes themselves are good enough that you can mostly look past it.

>>220696808
Not that anon but, he said she cant do that and framed the reason being because her behaviour is outside of social norms. She doesn't give a fuck about social norms. She doesn't give a fuck about anything except for loving Bear.
He needs to put it in the correct terms.

>>220696717
I'll be real, if that shit happened to me I'm going to start looking around for hidden prank cameras and checking the money to make sure it's real

>>220696808
well that's the point, the faggot writers broke their own magic curse's "logic" because they wanted to tell a particular political narrative

I'm saying he "SHOULD" have been able to. But we can't show people being able to defeat it because it would undermine the narrative they've been told to tell.

>>220696902
Direct your own monkey paw movie. I thought this one was interesting to show how insane BPD women are

>>220696717
>>220696824
>You are a guy living your life
>Your friend comes over and rambles incoherently about wishes and hands you a wish device
>You jokingly wish for a billion dollars
>You immediately get a billion dollars
>Your friend runs away
>After 30 mins still in shock and awe you decide you're gonna go over to that friend's house because obviously you want to fucking talk about what just happened and get more information
what the fuck did you want him to do? go to bed? call his accountant?
I'm sorry he wasn't thinking totally clearly, a billion dollars just rained from his ceiling. There is no flaw, or contradiction or confusion here. I dont know what you guys are fucking talking about

Realistically could a 5ft woman on a ton of drugs headbutt through a cars window and then remain consious and beat someone to death with a brick? Does freaky Nikki have super strength? Why didn't Bear just show Ian that Nikki is really freaky now and then they both overpower her, kill her, take the billion dollars and disappear.

>>220696902
No they didn't, you should just let me handle the arguments anon >>220696848. I'm better at it
Also I'm pretty sure you got the "you could train freaky nikki" from me anyway. Never seen any anons say that till I did but that's whatever

>>220696717
Yeah, that part confused me. I also didn't really get the hospital scene after she best herself up at the party. Did Nikki refuse to be hospitalize? Or did the paramedics not want to take her in? Realistically the police would probably think he beat her or something.

Loving more than anyone in the fucking world implies she loves bear more than she loves herself. NikkNikkii doesn't care about her own health or safety.

Also you can't just max out love and leave everything else the same. The human mind doesn't work that way. You max out all emotions, hence the wild mood swings.

>>220683209

by far the most unsettling movie i’ve ever seen. seeing both halves of myself depicted like that. “i’ll be anything for you.” “please kill me she’s sleeping i beg you.” holy fuck. having a fp doesn’t always mean you love them, but it does mean you feel like you can’t live without them. i’ve been w guys where i hated them but i couldn’t choose to stop thinking ab them or trying to find any way i could to speak to or be around them. even now with my boyfriend/husband who understands to the best capacity he can and never makes me feel bad for feeling or acting “crazy” the scenes about boys night and banging on the door were awful. the guy who made it either has to have bpd or his significant other. i sobbed the entire way through.

>>220696959
which reddit thread did you get this from

>wish for a girl to fall in love with you
>she shows up at your house
>acts like a retard
>you only get to fuck her once or twice
>pisses her pants and stabs herself
>starts killing people
shitty product

>>220696928
Dude what? He and the friend, together, watched the billion rain from the ceiling. Surely they talked more after that happened. Why would he then feel the need to get in his car and drive to his friends house, the same friend that knows it works and watched the money fall, to tell him that it worked?

>>220696990
>Surely they talked more after that happened
I think you need to rewatch the movie... or watch it for the first time. Bear was not there to have a chat with his friend and explain how wishes work. He was in a panic. What the fuck are you talking about man.
>Why would he then feel the need to get in his car and drive to his friends house, the same friend that knows it works and watched the money fall, to tell him that it worked?
I just explained to you why. He wants to talk more about it

>>220696848
>He needs to put it in the correct terms.
He could write an entire book full of the correct terms and the monkey paw would still find a way to fuck the wish up.

>>220697011
>dude it worked!!!
>...I know it worked I was just there 5 minutes ago with you watching it work
They couldn't figure out a better way to get the friend to the house to kill him for shock value

>>220697012
There is no monkey paw in this movie. The one wish willow just works. We see examples in the movie of wishes going well to illustrate this point. The director and writer also said this

>>220696848
>She doesn't give a fuck about anything except for loving Bear.
no
she acts like a weirdo the whole time and only seems interested in him in a vague, conceptual way and not even at all times
he wished for love, not to have her become schizophrenic and just hang around

>>220696936
Yes, drugs can make people superhumanly strong and ignore pain and damage. Especially crazy people.

>>220696959
>boyfriend/husband
My wifes boyfriend
>never makes me feel bad for feeling or acting “crazy”
You are and you probably stress him out 24/7
>i sobbed the entire way through.
Gb2r

>>220696959
I cried throughout the entire movie. Struck such a nerve seeing Nikki lash out in the ways she was, so helpless. Unable to identify who she even was. It all just, hit so deeply. I started crying during the scene where Bear tells Nikki he just wants her to be herself, and she screams “I don’t know Nikki”. I melted into my skin, I was literally frozen. My sister had to rub my back..

>>220697042
Yes. The modifier of love based on his wording of the wish is what messed things up, on top of the immoral act of the wish to force someone to feel somethng so intense, or forcing anything at all on them of course.
The wish was "I wish nikki freeman loved me more than anyone in the entire fucking world"

>>220696928
It's an angry tranny!

Another example is Sarah seeing Nikki at the party. Why not just hit him up and say that girl you are in a weird abusive relationship with is freaking out. Instead she acts completely unhinged and then casually asks to hang out at the park.

And why was he not freaked out after that first night when she was acting so strange. There is a lot of weird illogical behavior going on here.
>>220696959
YMNBAW

>>220697079
Sarah being the invisible girl that likes the guy who is in love with someone that's bad for him.

>>220697026
Anything could be done "better." I think it was justfied well enough and you dont.
It wasn't for shock value though. On top of adding to the chaos of the scene, it's the final push Bear needs to attempt suicide

>>220697078
yeah, I've already seen a bunch of idiots head-canon that actually the wish reads your mind and accounts for your personal insecurities and your verbal wish doesn't actually matter
and that's all retarded bullshit that is not even hinted at in the movie
>The wish was "I wish nikki freeman loved me more than anyone in the entire fucking world"
yep, and because the guy who wrote the movie seems to be a virgin or something, the first thing she does is show up at his house and say "UH MY DAD'S DYING CAN I STAY WITH YOU PLEASE" for no reason instead of "hey, what's up, wanna hang out some more?" because the movie does not follow it's own rules, it wanted to be a movie where loser gets "punished" for daring to take away a woman's autonomy, but in a strange almost sexless way where none of it actually adds up
the movie is called obsession
they should've just made him wish that she was obsessed with him
but he specifically used the word love and nothing she does resembles love or even "toxic" love or even really "obsessive" love because the willow just disregarded what he said vs. someone who wished for money
because the willow wanted to "punish" him by ruining this girl's life by possessing her with a weird inconsistent alternate entity swaps places with real nikki at random while real nikki is like somewhere else or something

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>>220697170
The Mirror? Yeah that's a good one, I still need to see Obsession though. Streaming when?

>>220697182
It's streaming in select locations in your local area

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>>220697193
>leave the house
Haha yeah, sure... But really...

>at a party with the 4 main characters and a handful of background characters
>they all watch nikki stop the party to move sarah out of the way during the kiss
>they all watch her read her stupid poem
>they all watch nikki bash her own head in with a bottle and stab herself
>nobody calls 911
>they let her leave the party with bear who ian previously accused of manipulating her dads situation for some sort of romantic or sexual benefit
>bear takes her to the emergency room and they refuse to take her or investigate him for potential abuse
Ok I guess

>>220696941
I read your post sure, I also had the same thought when I saw the trailer because I knew what direction the movie was going to go in. I also played the Akabur witch trainer game lol

I'm not against you, defend it or hate it however you want.

>>220697012
that's the bad writing I mentioned, to be consistent with their rules the monkey's paw should be easily defeated. It's part of the fun of the "thought experiment" you can do with these sorts of films. Any horror film where "the baddie just has a million powers and an everything proof shield and can't be beaten" are just pointless and gay, "ok well how would you beat something that can't be beaten?" well...you can't...that was a short and boring thought, almost like that shouldn't be the focus of any story, the focus should be on an interesting way to beat it.

>>220697027
even more stupidly forced with bad writing that she doesn't follow the rules of the magic then

>>220696237
I can fix her. Can I have her phone number?

Seriously though, they're all crazy and capable of the most insane shit, it just depends on degree.

Getting third parties involved is the limit for me. I know this is hindsight, but you should have got out and opened her door for her, because that's what kidnappers do, right? Let the whiteknights have her so they can figure it out for themselves.

Why can't people just accept this as a horror movie concept instead of making some big social statement out of it.

It's like Bear made a wish he didn't think was gonna come true.It created a totally fucked situation and that's the horror. the end.

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>>220697221
>>they all watch nikki bash her own head in with a bottle and stab herself
>>nobody calls 911
Bystander effect.

>>220697276
>totally fucked situation
>"I wish this girl was in love with me"
you have to be some kind of KHV incel retard for that alone to become "horror"
not that you can't make a movie about a dummy wishing for his dream girl and it backfiring, it's just this movie didn't do that, but the movie still proceeds as though he'd wished for a chimp to become his roommate and he thought the stories of chimps spazzing out on people randomly were all bullshit

>>220697276
Probably because the movie used things that happen in real life to make the movie feel more real and not some Evil Dead movie.

>>220697221
If you listen closely in the background someone is telling bear to get the fuck up and take Nikki to the hospital

>>220695518
This explain why she made the cat sandwich too. The "entity" hates that he loved the cat

>>220697319
>not some evil dead movie
nigger half the people who like this lame ass movie and defend it online think she was possessed by a demon

>>220697310
He makes some bad decisions along the way, but I don’t think he was initially set out to be this horrible sociopath that people make him sound like.

Like, the only solutions presented to him were to kill himself or Nikki, so it’s not like there’s a clean way out even when shit hits the fan.

>>220697335
Even if it was a demon, the demon acted like a mentally unstable BPD woman would act.

>>220697276
Because if you're not retarded you literally can't turn your brain off that much and bad writing is offensive to ones intellect. It's an involuntary reaction. The only thing more annoying is faggots trying to excuse and justify obviously illogical shit.

If Kurt Russell defeated the 'Thing' by doing a little dance and farting in its face, that wouldn't make a very good movie would it? at least not a kino horror film anyway. Then if someone tried to justify it by saying, "Who says thing aliens can't be killed by farts - it's alien, so you can't prove they don't", that wouldn't make the film any more satisfying. Just make you look like a retard who is entertained by anything, starting with jangling keys.

Now stop sounding like a retard and get off the fucking Internet.

>>220697340
his decisions are irrelevant when the premise is faulty
he makes the wish and then the second she's under its influence she's acting like harley quinn or something with a secret plan to murder him for a bag of jewels he has hidden somewhere but she's also a bad actress who can't maintain her fake interest him for longer than 25 minutes at a time, and he just ends up being uncomfortable and inconvenienced until she hurting herself and others, but that doesn't happen for a while

>>220697361
>the demon acted like a mentally unstable BPD woman would act.
no, she was instigating sex approximately 80% less than the average BPD girl does
that's the reason dudes stay with crazy girls, they'll just try to blow you all the fucking time whenever they can sense you getting fed up with their shit
nikki does like a human archetype of any kind
also
>it's not evil dead
>well maybe it is, but whatever
lmao

>>220697382
Well, dude, the reason I like the movie is that I think the concept of someone’s will being taken over by some external force and manifesting in crazy ways is interesting. That’s it. Lighten the fuck up.

>>220697322
I remember and I'm pretty sure that was Ian too, if I were Bear I wouldve said no and made Sarah take her while I explained what was going on to Ian (Ian would hopefully see this as reasonable since he previously accused Bear like I mentioned)

>>220697423
Do you not understand how the evil dead demons act vs the one on this movie?

>>220697391
I don’t really think the premise is that faulty. The idea is that the real Nikki is still in there. She’s just battling against this new overwhelming urge she has to override all her other instincts and love Bear more than anything. So it’s this interesting idea of how consciousness even works if one part of it is programmed against the instincts of the other parts.

I mean, it's like if you were forced to believe in something you consciously didn't believe it and yet your body was instinctually wired to pursue that

>>220697430
>I think the concept of someone’s will being taken over by some external force and manifesting in crazy ways is interesting
too bad the set up was "I wish she loved me" and not "I found a book of evil magic and cast a spell to make her love me using google translate but some of the words were in cthulu speak so I don't actually know the full extent of what I did"

>>220697335
>think she was possessed by a demon
Typical headcanon justifications where you literally have to make shit up because the writer didn't do their fucking job properly.

It's like pareidolia where you try to match what your seeing to the closest possible match, so okay a demon might explain it I guess. But does that mean a demon is up in the ceiling dropping a billion dollars on his buddy too? Does that mean the willow thing works on demonic magic? Was his buddy getting killed by the girl the monkey paw result of his wish?

Go ahead, make up whatever answers you like to explain it.

That kind of fuckery can be used in a good way by a good writer, but not the clown who wrote this shit. It's not clever or thought-provoking, just annoyingly inconsistent and totally insufficient. I don't care what they say either. They want you to think you just saw a clever film, but you actually didn't.

>>220697451
>self mutilation
>being weird
>spazzing out and killing people
now tell me if I'm describing nikki or a deadite
>>220697467
>the real nikki is still in there
but he didn't wish for nikki to become part-time possessed by the world's worst succubus, anon
he wished for nikki to love him

>>220697472
Hard disagree.

I think what’s more interesting with the wish is that it’s very literal, and that’s why it’s horrifying. If the evil itself was malicious, it would undermine the point that forcing someone to love you against their will is itself evil, which is what the movie was going for

>>220697513
>possessed by the world's worst succubus, anon
>he wished for nikki to love him
Because she wasn't possessed by a demon dude she was having her will/consciousness modified by the wish.There was no demon, the only "demon" was this entity rewiring her brain to love. The director deliberately said they were not doing that

>>220697497
It feels like they didn't know which way to lean.

>calls the number
>creepy dude plays audio of Nikki as if she were removed from the body and is being held somewhere
but
>real nikki pops up randomly, showing that she's still in there

>>220697430
I like the concept, that's not the problem. It's the execution - obviously.

And I can be a retard too:
>Dude the movie where Kurt Russell farts in the aliens face was cool because I like the idea of shapeshifting aliens in Antarctica - lighten the fuck up.

You can literally justify anything, including the worst doggerel ever produced.

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>>220697585
Alright, tough guy.What would you have done better

>>220697571
>nikki begs to die and says "she" is asleep
>nikki screams at Bear that she doesn't "know nikki"

>>220697544
>it's very literal
yes
that's why it's a problem
love has an exact definition
>>220697558
>she was having her will/consciousness modified by the wish.
but only sometimes
and not very well

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This movie is really bringing the faggots out of the woodwork

>>220683599
How is he gonna explain that to the IRS?
>"I wished for it"

>>220697616
>nikki was actually a psycho the whole time and his friends try to warn him that every boyfriend she's ever had ends up skipping town after dating her for longer than 2 months, but he ignores this because he just thinks she's pretty
>nikki got kicked in the head by a horse and becomes weird and violent and unpredictable from brain damage, bear is the only person who doesn't think she needs to be committed permanently to some kind of home and on meds, which is a mistake on his part
>bear says "I wish she was obsessed with me"
>bear ignores a specific warning on the willow that says "you shouldn't try to use your wish on specific people"
etc.

>>220697672
He wouldn't be able to unless he was a financial genius who could hide it which he wasn't. Ian was fucked within a few weeks time even if he lived.

>>220697684
>>220697627
Well, I think you're being very literal and ignoring that the director just obviously wanted to take it in a specific direction to explore. I mean, if you were just going with the angry demon version it would just be an Evil Dead movie and less interesting and unique. No one really knows what would happen in this scenario so I don't mind seeing this angle, and I can watch it without nitpicking it to death.

You can try to argue it would have gone a different direction tell you're blue in the face but you're never gonna be able to prove that so it's just your view versus tbe directors

>>220697672
>>220697697
You could hire a tax attorney, so you have client attorney privilege and they could try to help you out with it

>Be Ian
>Is having a FWB with Nikki
>Tells Bear that it's a bad look that he's with Nikki while she's acting mentally unwell in the car ride
>Invites Bear exclusively to a party
>Nikki ends up coming anyway
>Nikki has a mental breakdown and hurts herself in front of everyone
>Lets Nikki leave the party with the guy you just confronted for using her instead of having Sarah, yourself, or any other party goer take her
>(Also the emergency room not taking her scene is retarded)
Is Ian a turbo retard? The party scenes were cool to watch but writing-wise this is the most low quality part of the movie.

>>220697718
>you're being very literal
You're the one who said the wish was fucking literal, retard
But now you're turning this into the headcanon argument I mentioned before

>>220683209
A lot of men put up with this shit every day unfortunately, minus the weird hovering in the darkness (I hope).

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I actually got got creeped out when she ran backwards

it's like some anime tourist wanted to make a "yandere" movie but never read anything with a yandere waifu in it

>>220697887
Same, I also got creeped out when they gave her the gaunt makeup in the bedroom scene

>>220697846
>>220697769
I don’t see the internal-logic problem. The wish doesn’t make Nikki calmly and healthily love Bear. The "love" forced onto Nikki is extreme and manifests that way. That's the logic.

People do crazy things over love in real life like stalking, murder, suicide, psychotic breaks, etc. So why would the supernatural version have to look like some sweet, well-adjusted girlfriend?

>>220697913
my favorite part is someone in this thread said it wasn't like the evil dead but they literally have her face turn spooky and demonic multiple times

>>220697616
What this rando anon just wrote after thinking about it for 18 seconds would make it at least make some kind of sense: >>220697472

The pity is that it doesn't need that much of a tweak to fix the problem, but at best they're trying to have their cake and eat it too somehow, or sadly more likely at worst, they think they can just go to some perfunctory effort and create some kind of masterpiece.

It's a thing with faggots these days to think they can deliver shallow shit and expect you to take it as read that something more meaningful just happened.

You see it with Zoomers when they apoligise. "I take full responsibility, I was in a dark place ... ", which means nothing and they don't actually take any responsibility at all or accept any consequences for their actions in fact. It's just a learned simulacrum of an apology.

In the same way that shit is a non-apology, shit in this film is non-writing where it's just a pale copy-of-a-copy-of-a-copy of the superficial aspects of better horror films with monkey paw shit. Like they'd watched better films about ambiguous wishes going bad, and totally missed the real point in any of them because they're too retarded.

It's like if I decided to make a film in the Western genre, so got myself a horse and a cowboy hat, but I never actually knew or understood anything about the Old West, gunfights, or that movie genre at all.
>so I just need two guys to stand at the ends of a street an shoot at each other after some sort of staring contest, right? That's how it works?

>>220697930
>So why would the supernatural version have to look like some sweet, well-adjusted girlfriend?
she didn't really act like ANY kind of girlfriend at all
the first thing she does is come up with a weird unnecessary lie to get "close" because the demonic posession/brain formatting/bimbofication mindbreak hypnosis/wish compelled desire isn't very good at following his wish for some reason

>>220697961
>It's a thing with faggots these days to think they can deliver shallow shit and expect you to take it as read that something more meaningful just happened.
See I do agree that the movie is not as deep as people praise it for. I just think it's a well executed horror film and can look past that. The scenes, cinematography and acting are the juice, not the philosophical depth imo.

>>220697930
This movie would make more sense if you just said the wish made her literally 'choose the Bear' and it made her female brain blow a fuse.

>>220697571
>>220697571
>>220697984
>she didn't really act like ANY kind of girlfriend at all

Nah, as others in this thread have said she acted like a bpdgf but with less sex

>>220697984
maybe she was actually only slightly insane, and the wish turbo charged her insanity, manifesting her love the way it did?

>>220697991
no one is asking for philosophical depth (though I do think the director intended for there to be some)
personally, I just think it didn't make sense from the beginning and that ruined the rest of it
>>220697991
a movie like this should've had her act like a bubbly, overly clingy but normal girlfriend for like a week and then things start getting out of hand when she spazzes because he's 5 minutes late coming home from the grocery store or something
if you want to get even more topical, he wishes for her to love him, she does, but his personal failings and being a depressed retard create conflict when he isn't actually that interested in anyone else, not even his dream girl

QRD? Not watching this sloppa

>>220698024
>Nah, as others in this thread have said she acted like a bpdgf but with less sex
so not a bpdgf
>>220698029
There's a ton of things they could've done, but the director only wanted meme horror moments and safe edginess
the mere idea that a love wish starts to malfunction with physical contact but she's still willing to slice her face open out of jealousy is just like pure zoomslop made by someone who can't get a boner

>>220698024
>Nah, as others in this thread have said she acted like a bpdgf but with less sex
Also with less dead cats.

>>220698044
>>220698018
The movie delivers has some kino moments. I don’t think nitpicking a Monkey’s Paw concept is fair, because it’s entirely speculative and subjective.

I’m sure you could nitpick most movies to death if you really wanted to. I would agree that the film sometimes feels a little forced, but I don’t think that knocks it into bad-movie territory for me because the scares are good, althugh maybe it'll lose staying power because that's really the mian thing it has going

>>220697718
yeah you fucking retard, the whole point is we're saying the "specific direction the director wanted to explore" WAS SHIT

It's been explored before. You're just excusing slop. You're a slopapologist.

>>220683599
I get the feeling he did it as just something random you do, he didn't think it was actually gonna work.

>>220697627
>love has an exact definition
No it doesn't you fucking autist. Ask 3 different people, you'll get 3 different answers. Actually even more fun ask 3 men and then ask 3 women, kek.

>>220698166
I'm "apologizing" for it because i think your blowing its flaws out of proportion like what this guys saying
>>220698171

Love isn't a fucking organ there aren't scientific laws defining it so when you act like the wish was executed wrong, I'm just not buying it. Seems fairly up to interpretation.

>>220697930
because people don't do stalking, murder, suicide over "love" that's just the defence they use.

You're aware people lie in court right? They don't ACTUALLY tell the whole truth. These are things they might believe but if we're going with omniscient magic it wouldn't think "yeah the Chris Benoit murder suicide is definitely what love is I'll copy that"

>>220697672
you wish for that shit in cash; buried, organized, and easily accessible your backyard. you figure out how to wash it from there
>but muh breaking the law
I want to own a legitimate business, anyway. might as well clean my magic money in the process

>>220698152
>I don’t think nitpicking a Monkey’s Paw concept is fair, because it’s entirely speculative and subjective.
No it isn't. There's dozens of horror movies that use a "be careful what you wish for" motif but they're either less serious or less stupid
You can't nitpick Wishmaster based on any of the wishes that get people killed
>>220698171
What a worthless reply.
If your wish for someone to love you, and they show up at your house almost immediately, they should
1) try to fuck you
2) try to kiss you
or
3) begin flirting in any sort of way
they should not, however go into a sob story about a dying relative that serves no purpose and only exists to be later discovered as a lie so you can have a scene where nikki spazzes out in a restaurant (but none of the extras actually care so there's not even any real drama)

>>220698204
>Love isn't a fucking organ there aren't scientific laws defining it so when you act like the wish was executed wrong, I'm just not buying it. Seems fairly up to interpretation.
I have no idea what you're talking about, how that relates to what I said and what you think I'm saying. I didn't act or say anything about the wish being executed wrong, I'm fairly sure I'm on your side of the argument you're having with that 1 or 2 midwits who need everything to make "sense"

>>220698206
Once again you guys are acting like there's a clearcut definiton of love so not sure how to address this. Sure under your subjective view of love, the movie doesn't make sense. I think people can definetely have unhealthy attachment to things.

>>220698213
>Become a food critic youtuber
>Bot your views and subs
>Say you're making money as a successful influencer
Simple as

>>220698253
>What a worthless reply.
>If your wish for someone to love you, and they show up at your house almost immediately, they should
>1) try to fuck you
>2) try to kiss you
>or
>3) begin flirting in any sort of way
>they should not, however go into a sob story about a dying relative that serves no purpose and only exists to be later discovered as a lie so you can have a scene where nikki spazzes out in a restaurant (but none of the extras actually care so there's not even any real drama)
Wait, I think I see the issue. do I need to explain to you why she made that lie? You actually think it was random? Are you stupid or have you never spoken to a woman?

>>220698255
If you are >>220698171 then I was using you as supportive evidence to counter >>220698166
not arguing against you

>>220698204
>>220698171
clearly you fucking retards didn't even notice that "love" wasn't even the title of the film.

The line he should have said should have been "I wish Nikki was obsessed with me" (probably based off overhearing an earlier conversation with guys where one claims "dude my girlfriend is totally obsessed with me, she was sucking my..." blah blah blah

Because as much as we might all have slightly different definitions of what love actually is, if your definition includes any of the shit she did...you're a fucking retard.

>>220698281
Oh shit sorry, I see now. I read your post wrong

>>220698253
>I love you more than anyone else in the world...... like a little brother

>>220698276
>do I need to explain to you why she made that lie?
yes, you need to explain why the wish made her come up with a complete unnecessary lie to sleep over at the house of someone she's known for years and who already likes her

>>220698294
Ah so now we are getting to semantic dodge and moving the goalpost part of the argument

>>220698340
>the movie's title
>semantic

>>220683209
mind what?

>>220698324
>lied to sleep over at his house
Oh so you do know why she said the lie. There's nothing else to say then. I couldn't possibly explain to you why the woman experiencing an inhuman, supernaturally powered level of love would say and try anything to get what she wants

>>220694590
why dont u suck his peenis

>>220698346
>Loving someone to that degree has nothing to do with obsession
anon retarded

>>220698259
the fact you had to use the phrase "unhealthy attachment" in order for your point to make sense, kind of proves us right that it isn't love.

It goes back to what I said about the line he says being wrong, that fundamentally breaks the whole monkey's paw wish premise of the film.

Had they had him say "I want her to be obsessed with me" (you know, like the fucking title) then it would just be a case of "stupid character says stupid thing" which is a boring film we've seen before but at least internally consistent.

Instead they went with "love" as the line and that breaks the rules of the film, so now it falls into the badly written, not thought through properly, slop category.

>>220698373
Forcing a stacy into a BPD psycho girlfriend for you, despite it being a living hell for her.

>>220698392
Maybe that's the way regular Nikki shows love, but the wish turned it up to 11.

>>220698378
You're fucking retarded. And apparently so is the wish willow, like I've been saying.
>Hey Bear, can I crash here tonight?
>Yes, Nikki you can, even if I wasn't in love with you, and you were any of my other friends that I've known for years, male or female, you could sleep at my house, because that's a normal thing friends do, it wouldn't even be out of the ordinary to offer you my bed, while I take the couch, since you're a girl, again because that's a normal thing people do
Not some weird pointless lie
And again, she could've also just tried flirting with him, since you know she's supposed to be in love with him

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>>220698152
Let's take the Jim Carey movie, 'Liar Liar' as an example.

It's a simple premise, and there are times in that film where they obviously fuck up and he tells lies, or says something that is factually inaccurate. Your brain can't help but notice if you're paying attention. Nobody gives a fuck though because the rest of the movie is great, and it's obviously just a small lapse, (probably a result of Carey doing so much improv or whatever). Shit happens. That's not the problem.

This is more on the scale of the kid making a wish that says, "I wish Dad couldn't lie about coming to my birthday", and then we see Carey uncontrollably telling the truth about shit unrelated to the kid's birthday at all, but sometimes being able to lie, even about shit related to the kid's birthday - sometimes.

That wouldn't take away from the good aspects of the film in a vacuum, but it sure as shit would leave the audience confused and questioning everything that happens after. It would fuck up the story and payoff more bigly than it even deserves. You'd be distracted the whole film trying to figure out 'da rules'

Then if you had some idiot on the Internet try to argue the wording of the wish was fine because we don't know exactly how kid's birthdays wishes work, it was a demon, or pretend it was otherwise consistent somehow, as if the writers didn't totally screw the pooch, that would just annoy you.

Further, it would be a damn pity that they managed to fuck up such a good concept and performance in such a stupid way, when it could easily have been fixed and done so much better, because you can see the result when a simple concept like that is actually done right.
>inb4 I hate Jim Carey or that movie, therefore you are wrong

>>220698340
that's been my whole argument from the start.

Now you've been proven to hold a retarded and indefensible position you've resorted to "big words" like "semantic" ooooh you're so scary, I'm scared, I'm a very scared little boy at how big and smart you are.

Yeah I'm done with you retards. Enjoy your slop. You've all ruined any chance of us getting good cinema by paying to support shit films.

>>220698392
>>220698346
The title Obsession is the movie winking at you: "This is what his wish for love actually produced."

Not sure why you think real love can't cause obsession.

>>220698399
I'd just wish for all the stars in the galaxy to explode

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I wish all the rlm 105iq midwits arguing that everything needs to make "sense" (ignoring any argument to their alleged grievances) because they dont have any actual critcism of this movie and cannot admit they actually enjoyed it, would leave this thread and never return to any subsequent threads with this topic.
*snaps bark*

>>220698451
fuck I meant universe not galaxy fuck fuck fuck

>>220698390
>it's impossible to love someone "more than anyone else in the world" without being a deranged psycho

>>220698449
>the plot of the movie requires his wish to be mostly ignored in favor of an outcome he did not wish for

>>220683209
>AAAAAH!!! this 10/10 loving loyal traditional woman appears to be obsessed with me? THE HORROR!! did she just make a scene in front of the whole restaurant??? soo unsettling... AAAAAAAAHHH!!! she wants to have sex at all times SAVE ME ONIONSMAN BEST MOVIE AINCE HEREDITARY AND GET OUT!!!!

>>220698451
Hahaha you failed to destroy the universe and only destroyed 0.000000000000000000000000000001% of it you pathetic fag. See how easy it is to fuck up wishes? Get it right next time.

>>220698469
YOU RUINED IT ANON, WE COULD HAVE FINALLY HAD ETERNAL PEACE
>>220698459
Based, I'm tired of the midwits on this site

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>>220698427
>daddy abandonment issues
>into crystals