Sucker Punch is kino
when i first saw this actress i thought she was Japanese.Then i discovered shes just Anglo
>>220985139*enter matt damon eating wings*The DVD era of movies and the void it left will forever be personified by movies like The Uninvited 2009, for me."Hey, let's rent a comfy lake house in some picturesque part of the country and shoot a psychological drama with some relatively unknowns and 1 known lead."Another is Disturbing Behaviour 1998.So much chill and movie comf allowed via that distribution model that we're likely never going to get back. Pretty confident that all the vibes encapsulated in "netflix and chill" is from this era/genre/type of movies.
>>220985139Im an indian and this looks like my girlfriend
>>220985447this shot defines everything wrong with snyder
>>220985375"Netflix and chill" is a euphemism for putting on some background noise while you have sex.
>>220985489DVD and Dick in V
>>220985375>does "netflix and chill" and actually watches the movieshiggydiggy
>>220985194>angloI think she's like Finnic-Ugric or some shit.
>>220985508Blockbuster and cock-thruster
>>220985462elaborate
>Dawn of Kino>300>Watchkino>Sucker Kino>Man of Kino>BvS: Kino of JusticeSnyder was truly a kinomaker then Justice League happened and he went full retard. Never recovered btw and no recovery in sight (sad!).
Snyder never mentally matured. But unlike a 40yo "fratboy" who still hollers at his dumb football team and tries to flirt with the babysitter, Snyder thinks hes mature and sophisticated. But his stories hes trying to tell and the way he tells them say clearly otherwise. Hes embaressing.
>>220985537whatever she is we should depopulate the earth and replenish it with these
>>220985631Snyder Cut was actually a fun flick
I had a huge crush on her when I was a kid
wait, it was her?? wtf
>>220985139This babe loves blasting cigs. I think she's from the UK. Obviously. Nice leaks too. Strange they were released after the nude celeb craze and none of them were really exposing anything.
>>220985791i still do but i used to, too
>>220985447agp kino
>>220985375I only saw the uninvited on cable and the kate movie was in the vhs era of blockbuster.
>>220985447this shot is fine>>220986576this shot defines everything wrong with snyder
>>220985791>>220985791>>220985865Dangerously based.
>>220985139I wish I could agree with you.
>>220986770The samurai scene alone is something I fantasized about. Its like my unconscious mind burst through into reality made mafest by my lust.
I still hold out hope for the director's cut with all the rape and dance number scenes. That shit is often popping into my mind. Snyder managed to get so much of his director's cut out, and we need this one. Maybe with the Ellis running things now he might get it.
>>220985139that's from a series of unfortunate events though, she was much less cute in sucker punch
>>220985139Ehhh…
>>220985139I want to see her gaped by monster cock
>>220986770this shot is fine>>220986782this shot defines everything wrong with snyder
>>220985139like everything from snyder, it's all style and no substancethat's why the trailers for his movies look great but the movies suck balls
>>220988299>it's all style and no substanceI hate when people say this. Style IS substance.
>>220985791who didn´t ? perfect mix of cute and sexy.
I don't know how you make hot chicks fighting boring but Snyder found a way
>>220988299I too am a gay retard
>>220988334only if you’re brown
>>220988420being a gay retard you used "too" incorrectly hereit's understandable
>>220988427You must be the brown one here, because you're dumb as fuck.
>>220985139>>220985791>>220986677thanks to her, 8-year-old me developed a taste for this type of lips
>>220985865i'm an expert on girls manone look at their tits and i can tell ya which way they're comin'
>>220988412By making it all a hallucination within a dream inside a psychosis.
>>220985791>when I was a kiddid you turn gay since?
>>220988274Go on...
I don't know how you can fuck up a giant samurai wielding a mini gun and a dragon but he managed to do so.
>>220988437Why do browns always always always go for such retarded “no u”s
>>220986677prime embro is probably the hottest actress ever
>>220985791>>220986677
>>220985139I honestly and sincerely think you need to be brain-fucking-dead to enjoy any of Snyder's movies
>>220986757>this shot defines everything wrong with snyderi understand disdain for the slight continuity error but what's so bad about a quick upskirt shot?
>>220989279Only brain-fucking dead people are unable to enjoy his movies.
>>220985139imagine the blowjobs
>>220989409I frequently do
>>220989354Yeah man you got me with that argument
>>220986782>sword would have gone over her head if she had done literally nothing
>>220987824it's taken from brazil lolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLW-MV_snao
>>220985508VHS and make a mess
>>220985538Hidive and sex drivePlex and sex
Critics thought Snyder was just making a braindead coomer movie with hot girls in schoolgirl outfits fighting dragons. I mean... he was, but they totally missed the point. Sucker Punch is literal MK Ultra kino and most of you plebs completely missed the point because you were too busy drooling over schoolgirl skirts.The movie is about a girl being subjected to systematic psychological torture and using dissociative identity disorder to survive. The Lennox House is a trauma programming facility. The script explicitly shows Dr Gorski using a tape player to play music as a hypnotic trigger telling the girls to retreat into a world they control. When Babydoll is about to get lobotomized her mind splinters. She creates the brothel layer as a coping mechanism because her brain can process being a sex slave easier than an ice pick hammered into her skull. The brothel layer represents Beta Kitten programming where the girls are groomed and sold to elite handlers. The fantasy warzones are just her brain completely detaching from the reality of being abused. Every time the music starts she drops into a deeper Delta state alter. The trauma of being abused gets replaced by fighting nazi zombies, or giant samurais, or dragons, anything but getting dicked down. She is compartmentalizing her mind exactly like Monarch victims do. She is a Monarch slave who ultimately gets lobotomized because she posed too much of a problem for her stepfather.
>>220988460yes
>>220988334No it isn't.
>>220989709Yes, it is. Only dumb people think otherwise, often those that need exposition dialogue or voice overs to understand what they're seeing.
>>220989722No it isn't. You're either Chinese or black
>>220989676no shit anon that's the most braindead take. the reviewers didn't miss out on that, they just didn't care because they take films at surface value.
>>220989806Then why none of the critics mention that fact?
>>220989676Gee sherlock, did the multiple scenes in the asylum tip you off or was it the opening scenes of the movie? You can't be older than 15 to have unironically typed this shit up
>>220989854Explain the movie then, in your own words.
>>220989821what part of "they take action movies at surface value" didn't you get? only when reviewing dramatic films do critics actually dig into the details.
>>220989868Abused girl tries to escape the asylum while escaping to her mind palace so she's not confronted by the harsh reality
Alright schizos gather around. I am going to explain exactly why Sucker Punch is peak MK Ultra kino and how 99% of you completely missed the point of the ending. You all thought it was just Zack Snyder mashing his action figures together but it is actually a terrifyingly accurate depiction of trauma based mind control and Monarch programming.Let's start with the base reality. Babydoll gets thrown into the Lennox House asylum by her abusive stepfather after a traumatic event. She is scheduled to be lobotomized in five days to silence her. The trauma of the abuse and the impending destruction of her brain is too much to handle. So her mind fractures. This is the core of MK Ultra. You torture the subject until their psyche breaks and creates alters to handle the pain.Her first level of dissociation is the Brothel. The asylum turns into an underground club. Blue Jones goes from a dirty orderly to a mobster pimp. Dr Gorski goes from a psychiatrist to a choreographer. This is textbook Beta Programming or Sex Kitten programming. Her brain convinces her that she is a dancer in a brothel because processing being a sex slave is how she sees her reality as a helpless patient in the asylum.But the Beta programming isn't enough to protect her. When she is forced to "dance" for the clients, which is an obvious metaphor for being raped and abused by the orderlies, her mind drops into a second layer of dissociation. This is her Delta state, the combat programming.The music starts playing. Gorski literally uses a tape player as a hypnotic trigger. Babydoll goes into a trance and suddenly the abuse is replaced by her fighting steampunk nazis, dragons and robot samurai. She creates these hyper violent fantasies as a mental shield while her physical body is being violated.
>>220988208They didn’t film those scenes.
I'll agree Snyder can make some kinos but Sucker Punch fucking sucksProbably his most vapid, useless, shitty movie outside his Netflix era
>>220989926The impending lobotomy is rationalized by her broken brain as "losing her virginity" to a mysterious High Roller who is coming in five days. The Wise Man she meets in these visions is her internal guide giving her the tools to break the programming. He tells her to find five items to escape. A map, fire, a knife, a key and a mystery item.This is her trying to map out a way to break free from the facility in the real world while masking it through a video game logic quest. Every action scene you see is just a coping mechanism to avoid facing what is actually happening to her physical body in that room. In the fantasy she is gathering mystical items, but in reality she is actually stealing a map, a lighter, a knife, and a master key from the guards.The escape plan fails. Most of the girls die and Babydoll sacrifices herself to let Sweet Pea escape. But Sweet Pea and all the other girls are all alters created by Babydoll. Rocket is the defiant child alter. Amber and Blondie are compliance alters meant to handle the day to day abuse. Sweet Pea is the fierce protector alter. Notice how Babydoll is the only one who dances. Babydoll is sacrificing her weaker alters because the trauma is getting too intense. The alters get killed off until only the strongest one is left to carry the burden.This was the fifth item, self sacrifice. This leads to the ultimate realization of her trauma. The High Roller arrives in the brothel layer, which means the doctor has arrived in the real world to perform the lobotomy. But Babydoll doesn't fight it anymore. She looks completely serene. It is because Babydoll permanently severed her consciousness from her physical body. She retreated so deep into her own mind that the real world ceased to exist for her. Sweet Pea is the part of Babydoll's mind that successfully retreated into the deepest layer of the subconscious. Paradise is the dissociative inner world constructed by her broken brain to keep her safe.
id punch her sucker
>>220990208I'd suck her punch.
>>220990139>>220989926Everyone got that anon.
>>220989748Cinema is not an audiobook with moving pictures attached. It is not a Wikipedia plot summary, and it is certainly not a novel transcribed onto a screen. It is, fundamentally, a medium of light, shadow, rhythm, and framing. Yet, people like you insists on stripping film down to mere plot mechanics, demanding that every visual choice be justified by a line of dialogue or a rigid, logical explanation.This is the domain of the cinematic midwit: the viewer who treats movies like puzzle boxes to be "solved" rather than experiences to be felt. The ones who demand a flowchart to understand a narrative, who ask, "But why did he do that?" when the answer is already screaming at them through a low-angle shot, a claustrophobic aspect ratio, or a suffocating soundscape. Midtwits, like you, who easily get lost in non-linear or atmospheric movies because you are completely deaf to the actual language of cinema. You confuse literalism for depth.When a director utilizes the full visual and auditory toolkit of the medium, they are communicating directly with the subconscious. A line of dialogue speaks to the rational, processing part of the brain, the part that categorizes and critiques. But a slow, creeping camera push, bathed in neon red, accompanied by a low-frequency hum? That bypasses rationality entirely. It elicits dread, desire, or awe before the conscious mind even has time to formulate a thought. The visual style isn't merely the packaging for the story; the visual style is the story being told.I fucking despise people like you.
tall blonde mogs
>>220985447Imagine the kino we would have gotten if Snyder hadn't wasted a decade of his career on capeshit.
>>220989365>>220989402It's a shame in this movie her cheeks already started doing that thing female cheeks always end up doing.
>>220990260Yea, suck her punch with your asshole, faggot.
>>220985139Her entire film career is advertising how much of a horny abuseable slut she is.
>>220990438yes, yes it is.
>>220990300Perhaps the ultimate litmus test for the cinematic literalist is Sucker Punch. The literal-minded viewer looks at Sucker Punch and sees a disjointed, chaotic mess of video game tropes and anime-inspired battles that have "nothing to do with the plot." They demand to know why a story about an abusive 1950s asylum suddenly features mechanized samurais. Consider the action sequences. The cinematic midwit complains that the physics make no sense, that the girls leap and strike with a weightlessness that defies gravity, and that the fights are too flawlessly choreographed to feel like real violence. But that is precisely the point. The visual language is screaming the truth: we are watching a dance. In the base reality of the film, Babydoll is performing an exotic dance to mesmerize her captors. We never actually see the dance, instead, Snyder translates her movements into the hyper-stylized, gravity-defying combat of her fantasy worlds. The weightlessness and meticulous choreography aren't "bad action directing," they are the visual translation of a rhythmic, seductive performance. The style is the reality of the scene.This translation extends to the auditory experience. The corrupt doctor and the asylum's orderlies use a rhythmic, hypnotic audio track to pacify and control the patients. Snyder takes that oppressive sound and weaves it into the film's pulsing soundtrack. When the camera drops into the fantasy action sequences, the audience is subjected to the same heavy, hypnotic thumping that the patients endure. The auditory style puts the viewer into the exact same trance-like state as the men watching Babydoll perform. We are lured into the spectacle just as they are.It is all quite kino.
>>220985139how does she look now
>>220989676And it was fucking shit. It was advertised as action girl fun and it only half ass delivered that.
>>220990594The fetishistic armor, the seamless blending of anime logic into live-action, the fantastical worlds. Theyare not mere window dressing. They are the psychological armor of a mind fracturing to survive abuse. The protagonist uses the pop-culture iconography she knows to build a fortress in her mind.To strip Sucker Punch down to its literal plot mechanics is to miss the entire film. The narrative intent isn't found in what the characters say to each other between the action scenes. The true substance is found in how they fight, how the camera glides along with their impossible movements, and how the music traps the audience in the same hypnotic loop as the protagonists. The style is the only way the mind can process the unspeakable, and those who demand a straightforward, logical explanation are simply deaf to the music.
>>220990438and thats a good thing
>>220990651Congratulations, anon. You just perfectly proved Zack Snyder’s point, entirely by accident.When you complain that the movie didn't deliver enough "action girl fun," what you are actually saying is:>"I bought a ticket to objectify women in sailor outfits shooting steampunk Nazis, and I am deeply offended that the director dared to make me feel bad about it."This critique is the ultimate midwit trap. You wanted the dance. You wanted to sit comfortably in the VIP lounge right next to the sweaty Mayor, demanding Babydoll perform for your unbothered amusement. You wanted the hypnotic, voyeuristic thrill of the "action girl" without the messy, uncomfortable realization that you are the exact demographic the movie is actively mocking.Snyder deliberately built a cinematic honeypot. He used the hyper-stylized visual language of video games, fetish gear, and anime physics to lure in the male gaze, only to slam the cage shut and say, "Look at what you're cheering for."The reason the "fun" felt "half-assed" to you is because the other half of the movie was a mirror reflecting your own creepy entitlement right back at your face. So, it's not a failure of Snyder's visual storytelling. The movie worked perfectly. This critique is just the your subconscious throwing a temper tantrum because Snyder rudely interrupted your innate desire to exploit the girls in peace.You fucking rapist.
>>220990658>To strip Sucker Punch down to its literal plot mechanics is to miss the entire film.I disagree with the basic premise of overcomplicating it. It should have been split into two entirely different movies.
>>220990768>Creepy entitlement>RapistWhere the fuck did you crawl out from? Imagine typing this pathetic shit up jfc
>>220990768>Congratulations, anon. You just perfectly proved Zack Snyder’s point, entirely by accident.Then he should have advertised it correctly.
>>220990817Hit a little too close to home, did I?The camera acts as a surrogate for the patriarchal panopticon. When Babydoll is forced to perform, the lens does not capture the literal dance, it captures the dissociative survival mechanism of a shattered, abused psyche. The men in the diegetic space of the film are actively consuming her trauma. Therefore, when you, the viewer, demand that this exact same sequence be delivered as straightforward "action girl fun" for your own popcorn-munching entertainment, you are actively demanding to participate in the non-consensual extraction of her suffering.rgo, you are raping her with your eyes.Yes, I said it. Ocular penetration. Visual violation. You think because your greasy little fingers are on a mouse instead of grabbing at her sailor uniform that you're somehow innocent? You are visually penetrating her last remaining psychological safe space because your smooth, pornography-addled midwit brain cannot conceptualize a female protagonist unless she exists as a passive receptacle for your optical consumption. You are the exact same sweating, heavy-breathing pig sitting in the front row of the asylum's theater, demanding the meat dance to your liking so you don't have to feel bored.The fact that you’re crying about my "pathetic shit" instead of engaging with the ontological reality of Snyder's framing just proves the point. The film successfully held a hyper-stylized mirror up to your own innate depravity, and you are having a total psychological meltdown because you can't handle the reflection.
I wasn't expecting that shocking sad ending
>>220990928Is her physical body left entirely comatose? Yes. Is she utterly stripped of all biological agency, unable to even control her own bowels? Yes. Has her physical form been reduced to a literal meat sack, a vacant vessel left completely at the mercy of Blue and the orderlies to use, abuse, and discard as they please? Absolutely.And that is exactly why it is the most triumphant, radically liberating ending in the history of modern cinema.She recognized that as long as her consciousness was tethered to a physical body in a patriarchal hellscape built explicitly for her exploitation, she would always be a prisoner. Her body was never hers to begin with. It was currency for the asylum. So what did she do? She weaponized their own ultimate punishment against them. She orchestrated the perfect, permanent escape. She completely severed the link between her sovereign mind and her physical form. The lobotomy wasn't a defeat, it was the final, unbreakable lock on the door to her inner sanctuary.
>>220990902multiple different people dummy
>>220991019By the way, the Sweet Pea escape in the end is fake. When Sweet Pea gets on that bus, look at who is driving. It’s the Wise Man. Why would a literal, physical bus in the real world be driven by the mystical mentor figure who only exists in the deepest, hyper-stylized combat layers of the girls' shared fantasy? Furthermore, look at the young boy who steps onto the bus right in front of Sweet Pea. It is the exact same boy she locks eyes with in the World War I trench during the clockwork Nazi sequence. The physical world doesn't work like this. But a dreaming, dissociating brain?Then there is the ultimate tell: the Paradise Diner sign at the end of the line. Snyder didn't just pick a happy-sounding name out of a hat. "Paradise" is the psychological anchor of the entire movie, copy-pasted across multiple layers of reality:The abusive stepfather is drinking Paradise Rum when he institutionalizes Babydoll.The brothel in the first fantasy layer, the stage where she is subjugated, is the Paradise Theater.When Babydoll first brings up her intention to escape from Lennox House, Sweet Pea scoffs and dismissively says, "Send me a postcard from Paradise."The girls literally use a bottle of Paradise Rum as a Molotov cocktail in their attempt to burn the system down.The final destination of the bus? Is the Paradise Diner.The mind takes the linguistic symbol of its trauma and reclaims it. "Paradise" was never a town on a map. It is the internal name for the mental sanctuary she built.
>>220991362This is where the real kino lies. Sweet Pea isn't a separate person. She is a dissociative alter ego created by Babydoll to shoulder the burden of survival, and the narrative framing explicitly proves it.Look at the very first frame of the film. The movie opens with theatrical red curtains parting, and whose voiceover starts playing? Sweet Pea’s. She is the narrator telling the story of Babydoll, a classic psychological mechanism where the surviving alter rationalizes the trauma of the core personality.Then, look at their mirroring arcs. What is Babydoll’s foundational trauma in the base reality? She accidentally shoots and kills her younger sister while trying to protect her from their abusive stepfather. Now look at Sweet Pea in the fantasy layer. Her entire defining characteristic is being the fiercely protective older sister to Rocket. When Rocket inevitably dies in the fantasy sequence, it isn't just a plot device. It is Babydoll’s brain forcibly re-staging her real-world trauma so the Sweet Pea alter can finally process the grief and be set free.Snyder constantly reinforces this through visual staging. Mirrors and reflections are used relentlessly throughout the film to blur the boundaries between the girls. During the climactic lobotomy scene, the editing deliberately cross-cuts between Babydoll and Sweet Pea.Babydoll doesn't sacrifice herself for a random girl she met three days ago. Babydoll is the trauma-holder. She absorbs the physical destruction of the lobotomy hammer so that her uncorrupted, idealized self, Sweet Pea, can permanently retreat into the deepest, unassailable partition of their shared mind.
>>220991446>>220991362>>220991019>>220990902Behold, a bunch of stupid fart huffing nonsense. Zach, you didn't actually think you get an oscar for this crap did you?
>>220988299style is substance in art, you fucking retard. What else could it be? the message? war is le bad? capitalism is le bad? there would be no need to make new movies if the message was the substance. The style is. How you tell the story is the substance, not the story. If you think any movie plot has substance, then you dont read enough, hell Id say you dont even watch enough movies.Imagine if after the 3rd love song ever made someone said, oh well we covered all the substance and message! no more love songs, no more war songs, no more whatever songs. Fucking retard. Style is the subtance of art.
>>220985537She's pure Anglo, picrel are her parents.
>>220992172didn't your daughter kill herself?
>>220992366She got married?
>>220992884yes to me
>>220990358
>>220992884Yeah to Eddie O'Keefe, he's some indie director.
>>220993362Yeah but I’m the reason she can’t wear white.
>>220985139Creep porn addicted pedo slop. Women and children shouldnt be in movies.
>>220989676This is why people don't take Snydercucks seriously, because you think the obvious is somehow some deeply hidden layer of messaging that only le true artists could pick up on.
Didnt she go fully nude in some other movie?