>>221044380egg is icsh
sex with virgin book Arya
RELEASE THE BEES
>"Nor was he Aemon Targaryen">"I'm Prince Aemon the Dragonknight," Jon would call outWhy do I feel like aemon/naerys/aegon is a big foreshadowing to jon/dany/(f)aegon ? like it can't be a coincidence Jon's true name is set up to be aemon and dany and aegon share similar/same name as naerys and aegon right ?
>>221044380a good dicking can fix they/them
>>221044765God I wish it was me
>>221044765can my pronouns be he/her? or she/his?
>>221044380Still mad that Jon's lineage as the true king as well as possibly Azor Ahai reborn ended up being totally meaningless.
>>221044380TAOOBA!
>>221044502Valarra is icsh
>>221044571And her fat ass
>>221045526only boys can be icsh tho
>>221044380looks like we are going to open with season finale quality
....semoc eH
>>221045908!on, on, oN
>>221045908>>221046228These make my day. Thank you
>>221044721Naerys might've been the one targ that looked the most like Danielle but she sure wasn't a whore like her.
BRING AEGONTHE USURPERTO ME
Who the fuck gets pissed off petting a puppy? Fuck you, Olivia. Alicent sucks.
>>221044908think about how subverted your expectations were thoughall that build up? fuck you, have a teleporting midget.
>>221048745She truly sounded like a tranny when screaming that in the trailer.
>>221048772Thats not pissed off, she is just dead insideIt happens
>born to hate Rhaenyra because she was a smug fat privileged stupid bitch who raises taxes>forced to hate her for being a troon-aligned lesbianfine
There's a universe where they stuck with monke and she fattened herself up for her role over timethat was taken from us
>>221045826This is literally marketing copy.All that's missing is "return to form"
>Is it not better to kill a dozen men at dinner than ten thousand at war?>also kill the stark army while they're chilling at the red wedding lolwhat the fuck was Tywin's problem
>>221044380Are there any Gods of Good in the GoT or does that metaphysical conception not exist there?
>My leal lords will find me
>>221049325The Seven.
no offense to Dotrice but I wish Simon Vance did GoT so bad. He makes Fire & Blood so kino.
>Good morning ser Aenon>How may your king be of service?
you know people say got dropped off when they ran out of books but after reading those, I dont think that's truebecause it is no exaggeration to say dance was not adapted like, at all. and even feast is missing a bunch.northern plot 90% absentmereen plot 90% absentdorne plot 99% absentbrotherhood plot 100% absentand that's not even talking about the abscene of faegon which I think is a defensible omissionreally makes you take a step back and wonder just what the hell was happening in those last couple of seasons
>>221050728Meereen plot should be absent from books too.
>>221049390there are nine kingdoms in the realm
>>221051074there are a couple of cool people thereand also quentin
>>221051126Who? Glubzznak mo Shittok?
>>221051169is this supposed to be strong belwas or hizdahr loraq
>>221045826>please watch our show, it's not shitty anymore, honest!
>>221045826So that boils down to "please watch we know the last season was boring as fuck"
I drank the Arbor Gold.
Did House of the Dragon have no chance the second they decided to make Rhaenyra and Alicent childhood friends and the actresses decided to push for them to act gay for each other?
>>221051349How much self loathing do you have to have to think like this?
I'm really excited for this season.But I also am really fearful for how bad it's going to be.
>>221051928>they decided to make Rhaenyra and Alicent childhood friendsThat's probably the only good thing they added, it would've made their relationship as stepdaughter and stepmother even more interesting if they had actually done that and the love triangle with Criston right instead of the shitshow it was.
>>221052012True, but any chance of that was ruined when the two younger actresses decided to push a gay undertone to all their interactions because young Alicent's actress is one of those they/them fags like Emma Darcy.
>>221052056i hate women so much
>>221052056Agreed.Tragic childhood friends is one thing. But when they DON'T grow to hate each other or begin to value their friendship over their own sons is when the whole thing falls apart. You can even hold onto the "We were best friends but I HAVE to kill all of your children, I'm sorry." But this half-assed will-they-won't-they and constant pushing of responsiblity/agency off the female characters and onto the male characters is bad writing. No one wants to see a story where the main characters just have things happen to them without any say of their own. Nor is it realistic a woman would ever say, "you can kill my sons."This scene was retconned in its entirety and I'm mad about it. The war started when Aemond killed Luke. Yet the entire second season is the two female leads believing "war can be avoided" after there's a clear resolution that the war has begun at the end of season 1.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxmWpMfRapY
>>221052056Well it's funny that young Alicent was also complaining about the love triangle getting botched and only added in the show later on, she said that Alicent was supposed to be pissed at Rhae Rhae for fucking Criston cause Alicent loves him but can't have him while Rhae Rhae can have any knight or lord she wants but then it got changed to her being pissed cause Monke didn't tell her she got fucked like a best friend would.
>>221052056funny that the hottest versions of the two queens are enbie dykes
>>221052132>We were best friends but I HAVE to kill all of your children, I'm sorry.It's all mens fault bro. Otto made Alicent female drumpf and Rhaenyra is too liberal so they can't be friends no more.
>>221052056>the two younger actresses decided to push a gay undertone to all their interactionsNo they didn't.
>>221052300Get the meme right. Alicent is "women for trump" and Rhaenyra is Hillary
>>221052132It's funny how in their attempt to whitewash Rhaenyra so much they make her look like a shit ruler anyway because she can't control her subordinates or is constantly wringing her hands and asking "what would you have me do". She comes across as weak willed and indecisive. But these are the same people who spent more time crying about Aegon hanging ratcatchers then the blacks sending someone to murder a child.
>>221052325Rhaenyra is punk rock, Rhaenys is Hillary.
Why hasn’t someone created a new fantasy series that are just as good as game of thrones? Why do I have to wait for this fat fuck to finish his books instead?
I wish there was some decent game of thrones game. Playing the Bannerlord GoT mod is alright with the AInfluence mod and the Crusader Kings mod, but I want something like KCD in Game of Thrones.
>>221052570maybe the RTS will be good (haha the last good RTS was Starcraft 2) I just wish these studios could give the rights of their IPs to GOOD game developers.
>>221052570>Playing the Bannerlord GoT modIsn't that mod dead?
>>221052648That's the HotD one. Apparently the guy was using the pateron money to pay for his own shit over working on the mod, so it's been shitcanned after that came out and he hasn't paid any of the artists.Someone's working on one for the first blackfyre rebellion as well though. And I think Robert's Rebellion.
THE RAT CATCHERS
>>221052862THEY WERE BROTHERS AND SONS
>Your grace you might consider someone closer to home.. Someone more.. familiar.>The Ratcatchers, your grace..
>>221052938
sex with the wine boy.
>>221045609Nonsense.
>>221051169Shavepate is kino, you swine. Also i want to motorboat Green Grace's saggy fucking titties.
>>221052458>Bill_Belichek_Disgust.gif
>>221054349
>>221045526Would she marry Aerion or Daerion?
>>221054349>>221054422>there really are indians using this boardscary
>>221045609Egg gives you the paternal instinct and the need to have a son like him Valarra gives you the need to have a woman like her to start a family with
Why are gays always killed off and side lined while dykes are applauded as girl bosses and made protagonists?
>>221054574Modern women subconsciously fear the gay, because women have no power over them.
Think I'll take two chickens
>>221054515/ss/ with Egg
Niggard Stark
>>221044765>>221044877
>>221054527Newfag. These threads have always had fan casting posts. This actress is perfect for the role. If there were white actresses who match the vibe of this character i would post them.
>>221054838Sounds like a legit Stark name
>>221054965>These threads have always had fan casting postsyou mean the times you kept posting some ugly pornstar? jeet confirmed
>>221054667Egg belongs to Daella and Rhae.
>>221055006I have no idea who are you talking about.
>>221055110based sisterlover
>>221054667/u/ dotto?
>>221045908>>221046228kek
Are there still Stannis supporters?
WORST.NAMEDAY.EVER.
>>221055676why is the reach so full of brats?
>>221055548
Are we gonna get any grand maester conspiracy this season?
>>221056493no, probably because it's a schizo theory by fans that take an old hag's word seriously lmao
>>221056516>old hag who's word aligns perfectly with the opinions of the Archmaester of Magic
>we will never see raymun fossoway again
>>221056545>don't trust maesters>OH EXCEPT THIS ONEkek
>>221056568Aerion's not in The Sworn Sword either...
>>221056493>Following the deaths of her parents, brothers, uncles, and dragon in the Dance, and the victory of the blacks, Jaehaera was married to her cousin, King Aegon III Targaryen, as part of the peace agreement. Since she was eight years old at the time of the marriage and Aegon was eleven, it was not consummated.[9] Jaehaera's grandmother was rarely allowed contact with her at this time. When they finally did share a meal, Alicent told her to slit her husband's throat in his sleep, setting the child to screaming. Jaehaera's marriage was troubled from the start. The children had little contact with each other except for formal occasions, which were rare because Jaehaera disliked leaving her chambers. Munkun observed that both children were broken and joyless after the losing nearly their entire family, some of whose murders they had witnessed. Jaehaera would not laugh or play and was prone to wetting the bed and weeping.>These are not normal children. They have no joy in them; they neither laugh nor play. The girl wets her bed at night and weeps inconsolably when she is corrected. Her own ladies say that she is eight, going on four. Had I not laced her milk with sweetsleep before the wedding, I am convinced the child would have collapsed during the ceremony.[4]>—Grand Maester MunkunNot until the last season
>>221056621They need to set up the storming of the dragon pits and introduce Daeron. Daeron being at the Citadel is also a perfect place to have him discover the conspiracy in a way that helps Condal and Hess make the Blacks look good. Daeron can be the "good green" who knows Rhaenyra should rightfully inherit and the whole war was a plot to destroy House Targaryen from within.
>>221056662That's just cringey enough to be possible.
>>221044502luke is icsh
>>221056662too smart for condom and hessterycal
>>221056662top fucking kek it's just retarded enough that that condal and hess would probably do it
What's your favourite House?For me, it's Tully.
I wish we got Book Alicent. She's funny instead of the boring depressing lesbian bore we get. >YOU KILLED MY GRANDSON!>Aemond killed my son!>He was just a bastard, killed in war! My grandson was the Blood of the Dragon!Then she gets dementia. Instead we gotta watch lesbians make out while another lesbian gets cuckqueened. jesus christ.
I’m just here to see the dragons get rekt by peasants
>>221056916Manifesting a Rhaenyra-Alicent-Mysaria lesbian threesome in Season 3
I know Daenerys Targaryen isn’t real; but my feelings for her are
>>221057053if only you knew how bad things are going to be
>>221057193HBO turned down the Qartheen open boob dressYes, I understand Emilia Clarke got a non-nude clause in her contract for S2
>>221056980based
Nuncle, I hear you've been seeking this thread.
>>221057193Why? She's used goods.
>>221057383>rereading the books>remember the Ironbabby cringe in AFFCmfw
>>221057518What was that guy's name again?
>>221057601KARL TANNERfrom Gin Alleydrinking wine from the skull ofJOERFUCKINGMORMONTAny commands for us, Lord Commander? What's that?Shitpost until I'm dead?
>>221057639he was a FOOKIN LEGEND
>>221057053At least in the book it would've been hot with all three of them being silver blonde(and if Rhaenyra managed to lose the weight).
>>221057639
>>221057795Vizzy's a nice guy, he wouldn't mock you like that.
>>221056895>TullyOnce there were brook trouts in the streams in the mountains. You could see them standing in the amber current where the white edges of their fins wimpled softly in the flow. They smelled of moss in your hand. Polished and muscular and torsional. On their backs were vermiculate patterns that were maps of the world in its becoming. Maps and mazes. Of a thing which could not be put back. Not be made right again. In the deep glens where they lived all things were older than man and they hummed of mystery.
>>221057518I like the iron islands stuff
>>221045826>Get excited for new product
>>221057518>Not enjoying the based retards.
how did dorne bring down a dragon? poison?
>>221058270scorpions (big crossbows)
>>221058356oh. thank you.
Why'd he do it?
>>221054515Big Dunc cock
>>221056916The problem is Book Alicent doesn't do anything during the Dance, she just spouts some one-liners like a girlboss. They could have killed her off when Rhaenys burst out of the Dragonpit and the plot would remain fundamentally unchanged.
>>221056344Lack of BGC (Big Greyjoy Cock).
>>221059831That’s rhaenyra and alicents characters and that was the whole point of the story. Two unlikable cunt whores with a petty beef over who looks prettier plunge the whole realm into a war
>>221044380It kinda bothers me Northmen are considered one culture despite North being larger than rest of Westeros and Northmen sparse populated.I believe there would be at least four different cultural identieis.>West Northmen, who share some traditions with Ironborn>South Northmen, who are partially Riverlanders>Middle Northmen, who have been partially Andalized>North-Northmen, who have interbred with Wildlings
>>221060039The north does have some pseudo subculturesThey have the Krakenmen, the Crannogmen, the Mountain clans, the skagosi. And maybe some other pseudo canon ones.There are different cultures, and northern characters can identify them on sight (Arya, Bran) but southerners don't identify between them.
>>221060270I always took as local demonyms rather than cultural identities
>>221054349Up. Fucking. Voted.
>>221059240Wanted Ned, had to settle for his sister.
>>221056916>mayhaps the whore will die in childbirth
>>221045336THAT'S TAOOBA!
>>221055445STANNISSTANNISSTANNIS
>>221060039Why there are no settlements there? Makes more sense than Deepwood Motte and Karhold.
>>221060776I'd presesume that river motuh of Last River would be a bog that is requires too much labour drain, that is how many rivers motuh were.There not being river where King's Road meets the Long Lake makes no sense, there should be river town there.For Broken Branch and White Knife, confluences are less ideal than you think. So, yes, in theory they are good right? You get protection from two sides and trade access, but in practice building and maintaining a city there is kinda hard because the volume of water will result in flooding.So your only way to avoid that is do large scale earthwork so the water doesn't reach the settlement or do an advanced sewer filtration system.
>>221044380
poppa bear?
> That night Daario had her every way a man can have a woman, and she gave herself to him willingly. The last time, as the sun was coming up, she used her mouth to make him hard again, as Doreah had taught her long ago, then rode him so wildly that his wound began to bleed again, and for one sweet heartbeat she could not tell whether he was inside of her, or her inside of him.> But when the sun rose upon her wedding day so did Daario Naharis, donning his clothes and buckling on his sword belt with its gleaming golden wantons. “Where are you going?” Dany asked him. “I forbid you to make a sortie today.”> “My queen is cruel,” her captain said. “If I cannot slay your foes, how shall I amuse myself whilst you are being wed?”> “By nightfall I shall have no foes.”> “It is only dawn, sweet queen. The day is long. Time enough for one last sortie. I will bring you back the head of Brown Ben Plumm for a wedding gift.”> “No heads,” Dany insisted. “Once you brought me flowers.”> “Let Hizdahr bring you flowers. He is not one to stoop and pluck a dandelion, true, but he has servants who will be pleased to do it for him. Do I have your leave to go?”> “No.” She wanted him to stay and hold her. One day he will go and not return, she thought. One day some archer will put an arrow through his chest, or ten men will fall on him with spears and swords and axes, ten would-be heroes. Five of them would die, but that would not make her grief easier to bear. One day I will lose him, as I lost my sun-and-stars. But please gods, not today. “Come back to bed and kiss me.” No one had ever kissed her like Daario Naharis. “I am your queen, and I command you to fuck me.”> She had meant it playfully, but Daario’s eyes hardened at her words. “Fucking queens is king’s work. Your noble Hizdahr can attend to that, once you’re wed. And if he proves to be too highborn for such sweaty work, he has servants who will be pleased to do that for him as well. Or perhaps you can call the Dornish boy
>>221044765are they still carrying on this charade
>>221049325The Seven are the only true Gods. The Old Gods are more akin to a overmind, and R'hllor is just a demon
>>221062687R'hllor is the only real god. The Seven are fake non-existent gods.
>>221062709The Warrior litterally manifested himself as a giant to purge Whorenyra and her demonic flying lizards during the fall of KL. Thousands saw the miracle
>>221062867Mass hallucination.
>>221062687>>221062867Why didn't the Seven do anything about the White Walker invasion?
WAAAHAAAIIIIII?
>>221044765i can fix her
>>221063011they are migrating to the west of westeros. that shithole has lost their grace
>>221063011dragons are entities from essos and have history with the andals. white walkers are chimps from westeros, not their concern.
Why is AKotSK more popular than Hotd now?You would think a civil war with dragons would be the best thing ever but it doesn't feel very hype
>>221063207Because they fucked it hard and made it about diversity and lesbian fanfic with whitewashed and simplified characters instead of adapting the book they are hired to adaptAKotSK doesn't make you want to kill yourself after watching it, I can not say the same for HotD
>>221063011The people of Westeros betrayed and abandoned their righfull King (Robert) to support either a inbred usurper (Joffrey/Tommen), a traitor (Renly) or pagans (Stannis, Robb, the Greyjoys). So nobody have the divine mandate of the Seven at the moment.If Bobby B was still alive, the Warrior would had took flash and bend the knees to him, ready to lead the Holy Crusade against the Others in his name
>>221063207AKotSk was made with soul by passionate people. HOTD was made by a bunch of hacks wanting to prove they could wrote a better story than Martin and its filled with political undertones
>>221063207>Why is AKotSK more popular than Hotd now?Hotd feels shallow. Most of the stuffs that happen don't matter much.Condal doesn't do well with the Rule of Drama/ Checkov's gunAlso, everything has to bend backward and warp around Rhaenyra + Alicent stuff. Even if it's retarded.Also, the fact they are still somewhat friend after everything is lame. This is a war with dragons but it feels like a angtsy show between 2 besties
>>221063207just wait for the premiere. HotD will pull bigger numbers than knight of the shart
>>221045336>>221054853This guy is so dogass ugly he actively ruins anything he's a part ofIf he's an actual good actor, he should do voicework. Cause his face isn't fit to even be a zombie in a horror movie.
>>221063335>still somewhat friendFriends AND lovers. They gonna have lesbian sex in the next season. Rhaenyra still wants to kill all of Alicent's sons btw
>>221063500The Greens are a bigger danger to themselves (Aemond trying to kill Aegon, Aegon now motivated to kill Aemond more than Rhaenyra, Alicent trying to kill all her children to get scissored)total fucking mess
>>221063831White people can drive black and brownoids into a literal murderous rage with single words. Brownoids need to put this much effort into insults no one reads or cares about. sad.
>>221055445Always and forever.
>>221049242i'm glad the ugly monke is gone
>>221049283>this is game of thrones, peasants don't matter!
>>221050592please make peace with your sister by marrying her and having your future kids with her be the heirs.polygamy is fine for Targaryens
>>221050728agreed
>>221051946>self loathinghe's a jew
>>221052320>t. autist
>>221055676is she legal now?
>I'm sending Aerion to the Backrooms>a few years in the liminal spaces may change him for the better
>>221044765I volunteer
>I'm sending Aerion a girlfriend who's obsessed with him>A few years with a girl who loves him more than anyone in the world may change him for the better
>>221060270>the skagosiIsn't those lads straight up wildlings?All they do is sit on their rock and eat people shipwrecked nearbyDid they ever answer call to war or anything? I doubt they are paying any taxes either lol
>>221064687sad they gave the mother-son incest to alicent instead of rhae-rhae
>>221064694instead he gets buck broken by monsters in the backrooms
This moment can't come soon enough.
>>221059990>Two unlikable cunt whores with a petty beef over who looks prettier plunge the whole realm into a warNot what happened.
>>221059876but they're canonically small
>>221060039i agree, but that map and reasoning is way off
Tully!Riverrun and Tully!
>>221062513I ship it.
>>221063207It’s because the writers are gay liberals with an agenda to push instead of just making something cool
>>221054515Dunk
>Varys spy network has been powered by a glass candle since ACoK>Varys is a Brightflame or some other Lyseni bastard of Aerion>Marwyn is Varys' informant at the Citadel, and possibly even his father, Maegor Brightflame>Marwyn can see in the flames and taught Lazy Leo to see in the flamesWhat is Michael cooking?
>>221052412It's kind of a shame because if they'd leaned into making her ruthless but charismatic the character (and show) would probably be a lot more popular. People love a good asshole protagonist.
>>221056684season 1 bran is icsh
>>221064738Back in the day, the Stark Kings in the North invaded Skagos and forced them to bend the knee, then promptly forgot about them.If Gurm wasn't a lazy fatass, we'd see the unicorn riding Skagosi cannibals honoring their oath and supporting Rickon's claim to the kingdom.
>>221071128>Rickon's claimis there a rival claim?
>>221070162Michael is a retard who shills the HBO slop. John Greenwood is the only one with his finger on the pulse of the story
>>221071128Now you got me yearning to live in such a place, you fuck. I wish i could slide down that mountain on a sled.
would you a lysa?
>>221064171>but I'm already married to my sister>oh, the whore one>I can work on it after Vhagar eats Daemon
>>221070162>Michael???
>>221071305>John Greenwood is the only one with his finger on the pulse of the storyNone of them do, they’re all hacks. Not one of them even figured out Bladeheart the barbarian
>>221064025You cared.You read it.You got mad about it.Timmy.
>>221064025based
>>221071369Michael Talks About Stuff. He posted here on /tv/ and /tg/ during hotd seasons 1 and 2. He's part of the post-GoT asoiaf youtuber sphere. You have the oldfags like Preston Jacobs, Alt-Shift-X, and David Lightbringer. The newer ones are Michael, Interesting Nerd Club, Wizard Kissing Company, Meera Reads, and QuinnTheRedditMod
>>221066050>He thinks Aegon will actually RhaenyraIt will be a misunderstandingJust like everything in this stupid lame show
>>221071533Joffrey the Gentle made sure that he will.
>>221071367you can all be a one big happy family, Your Grace. polygamy is perfectly fine for Targaryens.
>>221071571These Rhaenyra memes make me think I should write "character's father is fed to a dragon and his remains are returned to them as a pile of dragonshit in a coffin and causes mass outrage" as a plot point.
>>221067443Is it?I think for a distinct cultural identity to form, it needs two things:>level of isolation>a common geographic boundary (like river basin)
>>221071488Neat. Never heard of him before.Discovered David Lightbringer through his Ironborn conspiracy videos, his stuff is fun.
>>221071871Yeah. There are good points but the map itself is somewhat flawed. For example, the southern North is off, since we know the Neck acts as a major barrier both socially and militarily (the most northern riverlands house, the Freys, have no influence except negative, and the crannogmen maintain their own distinct culture). Plus if any part of the north would be influenced by the ironborn, it would be Cape Kraken. Again, not a bad concept to have subcultures (which it does already), but the map is flawed.
I don't understand where are they going with Aegon II?They had Haelena say "he'll be king again" but then they keep wanking Rhaenyra and making sure we know she's the "rightful" queenThey also castrated him. He can't continue his line now unless he legtimise one of his bastard
>>221072450it's poorly written schlock, anon
>>221072538>it's poorly written schlock, anonI'm just trying to be hopefulAfter his spat with Grrm and the online backlash, I kinda hoped HBO would start to force Condal to care more about the show
>>221072596I think GRRM's departure is part of why they announced it'll end with season 4. They just want it over, and Condal has already said he'll move on.
>>221071342Wouldn't you have to basically be a childhood friend to Lysa? She fell for Petyr early and fucked him early as well, then fucked him again after Brandon beat the shit out of him and got knocked up from that.
>>221072450>They also castrated himIs this a show invention or did his cock get fucked up in Fire and Blood?
>I think I have said what I have to say about WesterosWhat is he saying?
>>221071378>bladeheart the barbarian Nice. For me it’s the orkmont oscillation
>>221072706The untameable beast is fine in the book.
>>221072730Fuck white men
>>221072706His cock gets fucked up in the book. He watches his knights fuck women and cries about it in the book. He even had Mushroom fuck a woman while he watched from the cuck corner.Mushroom. Doesn't. Lie.
>>221072706>Fire & Bloodit's mostly just retconning nonsense, The Princess and the Queen is more objective
>>221071533>It will be a misunderstandingCan't be, it would make Aegon good which is a big no no for these hacks. After the "muh leal lords will find me" line and his reply and aegon replying "If they search the seven hells, mayhaps" she'll probably laugh at him and ask him if he still has a cock, cause Hillary T just has to have the last word, then Aegon will flip out and yell dracarys giving Sunfyre the order.
>>221072954They're gunna make Rhaenyra be the one to command Sunfyre to burn her after Sunfyre ignores Aegons command, proving she was the true Dragon Queen. This has been my prediction from the start
>>221072943>same author>t-the shorter earlier book is more objective
>>221072977especially with the whole "dragonrider's death" thing which makes no sense but is clearly there to make her death seem like a good one
>>221072730“I am a feminist and progressive pleeeeeaase give me pussy”
>>221072987Yes. Only a Condal and Hessfag would disagree.
>>221073012condal and hess hate f&b though?
>>221072977>>221072977lol that's just retarded enough to be truelike that dumbass idea about Daeron being "good green" proclaiming Rhaenyra as the true queen kek.
>Kill king>Her daughter wants to murder you and fight to the last>Her own men drag her out chained and naked>Remove the chains and give her your cloak saying her dad died like a chad>Take her family's crest and lands for your own>Fill her up with babiesWhat did he mean by this?
>>221073020F&B is what they chose to adapt, while claiming TPATQ is propaganda. Hence Aegon being retconned into a rapist and having his bastard kids fight in a pit, all from F&B. Apparently they seethed at his portrayal from TPATQ, showing him having a paramour and caring about his kids.
>>221073062they are not adapting f&b though, they are retconning most of it or picking the worst possible version when there are multiple ones
>>221073078They are adapting it, hence the elements I just cited and them encouraging people to read it. They're still making shite up, but their nonsense is on par with the retcons.
>>221073062the latter are in F&B too way to show you haven't read either
>>221073093those are not retcons there are multiple versions in f&b including the positive aegon ones
>>221073054He was promised Stormpussy by his half brother and he was getting it one way or another.
>>221073054He's a retarded targ rapebabby so it's unsurprising, the dornish also rekt him btw so he's got that in common with his sister Rhaenys.
>>221073008You just reminded me of Baela and Daemon's Wife going on about being Dragon Riders and how I just didn't buy it at allThe only thing I bought less than the black people being dragonriders was the black people going on boatsIt's show unbelievable the show didn't even bother to actually show The Sea Snake or any of the Boat People actually on boats.
>>221073100>>221073117The latter are called false in F&B, try reading the books. There's no reason to add retcons in like child-fighting pits, but the book did it. Condal and Hess just cleave to F&B's retardation. Plus it retconned out Aegon's decree.You got the show you wanted.
>>221073162>You got the show you wanted.Literally nobody wants this version of the show. Not even the LGBT people who spend all day shipping gay relationships give a fuck about Rhaenyra+Alicent (lol)
>>221073122>Didn't avenge her father cause he was kinda nice when she was brought to him in chainsWhat a shitty daughter. Probably fell in love with the bastard as well. House Durrandon are the only lords of the stormlands I acknowledge.
>>221073162>condal and hess deeply care about f&b>so much so that they changed everything about rhaenyra and alicent and really most of the other characters and plot for their fanfic
>>221073122Just realized Gwin looks Durrandon as fuck, she should've played Lyonel's little sister instead.
>What if instead of making a mother choose which child she wants murdered, and then murdering the other one so both the mother and living child have to live with the knowledge that "your mummy wants you dead">what if like.. we did a weird thing about which one was the boy and which one was a girl. haha.>they killed the boytime for a beer.
>>221072730>What is he saying?He no longer want to work on anything related to asoiaf/ gotThat or he was told he wouldn't be allowed to work on more grrm related project but was allowed to save face by HBO highers ups because they can't admit his writing suck
>>221073162that's just mushroom's version and it's described as a rat pit a lot of people assumed it was literal rats
>>221073207Is there anything that actually talks about their relationship beyond the part where he treats her kindly? I know they had two sons at least, but do they give any indication what she thought of her and Ory's married life?
>>221073211Hence why GRRM should have just stuck with the first book.By writing a second and trying to frame the history as "unreliable", we got what we have. Hell, the Aegon retcons leave the outcome nonsensical. At least the TPATQ's ending made sense, even if the Baela stuff was cringe.
This point has been made a lot but I just want to reiterate. The dance of the dragons in the book is pure shit and has always been pure shit. Phoned-in sloppy mess written by an old man well past his prime full of dud characters. If it wasn’t part of an established popular franchise you’d find that story on page 1200 of a fanfic site with 3 page views
>S3 Ep1 leak:The episode opens with Rhaena finally claiming Sheepstealer. After first mounting the wild dragon, she spends what feels like ages stranded on a mountain as Sheepstealer repeatedly abandons her. Eventually, however, the two form a true bond, and Rhaena takes to the skies on her new dragon.The battle begins because Sharako's forces have pushed dangerously close to Dragonstone. By this point, Sharako is no longer fighting on Aegon II's side.Notably, neither Aegon nor Viserys are mentioned at any point during the episode.Before the fighting begins, Jacaerys convinces Baela to join him in battle aboard Moondancer. During the conflict, Sheepstealer unexpectedly appears and begins burning Velaryon ships. Believing the rider to be an enemy, Jace and Baela attempt to bring down the dragon. They only stop when they realize that Sheepstealer's rider is Rhaena.Throughout the battle, Jace repeatedly flies Vermax at dangerously low altitudes. Sharako's men manage to strike Vermax with a bolt, but Baela intervenes and cuts the dragon free.Meanwhile, Corlys, Sharako, and Alyn engage one another amidst the chaos unfolding at sea.Vermax is eventually ensnared once again and dragged into the ocean. Jace becomes trapped in his saddle as the dragon struggles beneath the waves. After freeing himself, he swims to the surface and clings to a broken piece of wreckage from one of the destroyed ships.As he struggles to survive, one of Sharako's vessels approaches from behind. Archers fire upon him, striking him three times: once in the back, once in the chest, and finally in the neck.The episode's final image is Jace's lifeless body floating upon the water.(Rest is coming up)
>>221073257>"guttersnipes with filed teeth">ratsI guess?>>221073285You are 100% correct. The Dance was always poorly written, and worked better when we just had a basic outline.
>>221073267implying condal and hess give a fuck, they changed things all the versions agree on like characters' ages
>>221073291>S3 Ep1 leak (remaining partBefore the battle Jace locks Rhaenyra inside her chambers alongside Mysaria and one of her handmaids. Furious and desperate to act, Rhaenyra pounds against the door in an attempt to escape. In a scene teased in earlier promotional material, Rhaenyra is seen violently stabbing and slashing at something with a dagger. A maid presents her with one of her gowns—a red dress—and Rhaenyra tears into it, ripping and stabbing the fabric apart in grief and rage.The dragonseeds do not participate in the battle. Acting on information Alicent provided regarding Aemond's whereabouts, Rhaenyra instead sends them to Harrenhal. Her intention is to ambush Aemond with dragonfire.Upon arriving at Harrenhal, the dragonseeds encounter a mysterious creature believed to be a Green Man. The sight unnerves Hugh and Ulf, both of whom immediately wish to leave. Addam, however, insists they remain.Alys Rivers then appears before them and instructs them to return to Dragonstone, warning that their queen needs them. When Ulf questions how she could possibly know this, Alys simply replies that she is a witch.Vermithor, Silverwing, and Seasmoke appear only briefly throughout the episode, each receiving only a few seconds of screen time.In King's Landing, Alicent shares several scenes with members of her family. In the throne room, she speaks with Aemond and lies about having visited the godswood, concealing the fact that she had actually traveled to Dragonstone.Later, she has a conversation with Helaena, during which she suggests that Aemond fears dying at Daemon's hands.Alicent repeatedly expresses regret over the war and the devastation it has brought upon their family and the realm.In her final scene, Alicent and Aemond discuss traveling to Harrenhal together. The conversation concludes with the two sharing a kiss
>>221073291>Sharako is no longer fighting on Aegon II's side.To be fair no one is fighting on Aegon's side
>>221073250Yes, that's all sad and such your grace.But have you considered the plight of the Ratcatchers?
>>221073054Durran Godsgrief was azor ahais half brother btw
>>221073303That's what happens when the author himself decides to call his own writings unreliable by retconning stuff and then hands the project off to two retards that admit they only read Fire & Blood. F&B is for morons.
>"Before the battle Jace locks Rhaenyra inside her chambers"
>>221073285So I'm going to go ahead and point out I'm pro-Rhaenyra, and I've said this before, but the writing for the war makes little to no sense.A major issue is the incompetence of the Greens, which stretches believability. To summarize:1. The Greens consistently lose top-tier commanders in almost all their major engagements (Red Fork-Jason Lannister, First Tumbleton-Ormund Hightower, Butcher's Ball-Criston Cole, Kingsroad-Borros Baratheon) whereas the Blacks almost always lose only 8-bit characters such as Lords Darry and Mallister in the Muddy Mess.On top of all that, Aegon II is incapacitated for most of the war after just one battle (Rook's Rest) and Aemond is an idiot.2. We see the Blacks use ambush (Butcher's Ball), flanking (Fishfeed), scorched earth tactics (Riverlands), and shock tactics (Winter Wolves). The Greens, on the other hand, are never really shown to use any proper tactics.3. The Green victories we have all come down to luck (Ulf and Hugh at First Tumbleton), literal deus ex machina (Daeron the Daring at the Honeywine), or them taking such hideous losses that the victory is Pyrrhic and the army in question out of the fighting for the rest of the war (Three Daughters at the Gullet, First Tumbleton). The Blacks, on the other hand, always win decisive victories (Fishfeed, Butcher's Ball, Second Tumbleton, Kingsroad).4. The Greens lose even when they greatly outnumber their opponents (Kingsroad).5. We never see the Greens put to use their greater wealth.6. A lot of Green victories are implied in throw-away lines (Lord Lefford in TWOIAF, Ormund Hightower in TPATQ)7. Because of all the above most of the Green commanders come off as toothless chumps. I could buy maybe one or two of them being this dumb but not all of them. The Kingmaker and Borros Baratheon are the worst examples of this IMO.Will the show be better written when it comes to the war than the books?
>>221073356What would you have him do? Let her have agency as a character?
>Rhaena burning the wrong fleet for some reasonwhywhat does this addwhy are they so fucking stupid and weird?
>>221073353yeah bro the reason hotd is rhaenicent fanfic is that condal and hess wanted to accurately adapt a book where alicent is rhaenyra's evil stepmom and they hate each other according to every single source
>>221073373One can say that about a lot of things (such as the leaked Daeron plot)
>"Before the battle Jace locks Rhaenyra inside her chambers alongside Mysaria and one of her handmaids">"A maid presents her with one of her gowns—a red dress—and Rhaenyra tears into it, ripping and stabbing the fabric apart in grief and rage."What kind of shitty fanfiction is this?!!!Are they not going to have her do anything at all?
>>221073393>accurately adapt the story the author decided to call unreliable >said author praised those changes from the first seasonkek
>>221073426do I even need to say itwhat would you have them do
>>221073373because we need yet another death that's an accident because targs can't control their dragonsalso to have her take nettles place and make rhaenyra justified in hating her (even though show rhaenyra acts like she hates jace and wouldn't give a fuck that he died much like she stopped caring about luke asap)
>"Notably, neither Aegon nor Viserys are mentioned at any point during the episode"They are going to replace Aegon III with Alicent for Rhaenyra's death aren't they?
I read something about a leaked scene for season 3 where Rhaenyra makes Alicent dress as a serving girl, gathers all the lords who didn't side with her and serves them rats, is that true?
>>221073426can't blame rhaenyra for the battle and jace's death if it's all jace's fault for keeping her away from itnever mind canon jace had to lead said battle because rhaenyra was crying and being useless in her room also lol lmao maybe she could have cut through the fucking door if she cared that much
>>221044502damn it bot server will you go play a vr game or something to train for a robot body so you can go fuck yourself? kek.
>>221073463There has been enough rumors about his and the trailer footage shows a feast where Rhaenyra is looking a bit smug and proud of her so I'm considering this one 98% true.If only the ratcatchers were around to have eliminated the soon-to-be-served rats.it really all comes back to the Ratcatchers.
It's funny how much the show glosses over shit like Rhaenyra having some random guy killed so she could legally marry her uncle. Very punk rock.
>>221073491They should have adapted Otto bringing 100 cats to the Red Keep
>>221073454she will poison aegon ii and treat aegon iii as a dear memento of rhaenyra, everything will be about rhaenicent after all
>>221073518the show makes her uncle marriage illegitimate and her kids all bastardsjust because the show didn't want to have her kill a black guy lol
>>221073522Yes a scene with Otto holding and petting a kitty was a massive missed opportunityI also wanted to see crabs feasting upon Vermax to round out the last season
>>221073518>It's funny how much the show glosses over shit like Rhaenyra having some random guy killed so she could legally marry her uncleooooooh yeah!!!I forgot about that!!!!
>>221073368George got lazy and lost his mojo
>>221073356>meant to be extremely flawed and a bad ruler exactly like her half-brother>show wants her to be a morally good girlboss>but the plot still has to happen somehow so they end up showing her as a pathetic indecisive wussFeministsisterxs.. not like this...
>>221073491I can see it being treated like a girlboss moment and then forgotten about when shit like that would be exactly why she'd be forced to flee the city.
The black people are so boring I simply can't care about any of them at allNot even racist. Well, as racist as many of you anyway. They're just awful.We could have had a cool Kul-Tiran style naval faction instead we got black people that never actually appear on a boat, it's almost comical. I burst out laughing when they talk about fighting sea shanties and "battles at sea". You know nothing of the sea, queer. And black people hate water, sorry. it is what it is.
>>221073518Well you see actually Aegon had just raped that poor mans wife and killed him when he tried to stop him and then the wife, so they just conveniently had the body there, Rhaenyra didn't do anything really!
>>221073585They're going to use it as one of the reasons she's brought downThe Greens take advantage of the opportunity and tell the smallfolk she was feasting all the lords, when really it was a fuck you "haha im making you eat rats because you all hoarded food while the smallfolk starved"Rhaenyra can do NO WRONG, those greens are so mean >:(literal dogshit.They raise taxes against her will and behind her back too. Literal 0 agency.
One of my main grip with this show is the fact they made Rhaenyra supposedly competent but they insist on re-using the OG plot from F&BThe problem is the OG plot happened because Rhaenyra was a retardSince she's good in the show the OG plot shouldn't happen and she should win very easily but that don't happenInstead they are using the OG plot and are making everyone besides Rhaenyra a moron...
>>221073567Baela is also far less of a tomboy
>tease rhaenyra taking a darker turn, the throne corrupting her into becoming ruthless>her big heel turn moment is goofily feeding nobles a rat dinner HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>221073266No, but Orys spent 30 or so years seething about the dornish cutting off his sword hand and killing Rhaenys and Meraxes so you can imagine. He was so bitter that he quit being Aegon's hand after like 2 years.
>>221073684She doesn't even come across as competent. The way the plot works means she either doesn't do that bad shit or someone else does behind her back, so she looks weak willed, indecisive and unable to control her own faction. In their attempt to offload all the blame off her they left her with nothing.They are for sure going to leave out the whole part about how she was apparently getting cut by the throne.
>>221073722Does this even work? I understand they are nobles and rich, but in this world, is eating rats that bad? Like isn't Rat Stew kind of a thing people eat, like Squirrel and Snake? Not something you or I might choose today but 'back then' it seems like serving chicken nuggets at a fine dining establishment. I imagine the lords being like "Okay?? I would have preferred something nicer but whatever"Maybe I'm wrong and rat was always disgusting I don't know shit about ass.
>>221073753>They are for sure going to leave out the whole part about how she was apparently getting cut by the throne.They literally make it happen to Aemond instead, before she takes the city. lol.
Why didn't Aegon exterminate the Ironborn?
Fundamentally Rhaenyra is supposed to be a smug, selfish privileged bitch. The show wants to make her likeable so you cheer for her, and the other side unlikeable generic villains. The exact opposite of what the story is supposed to be about.You're supposed to enjoy when the smug character finally eats shit. It's funny. This applies to the greens, too - Aemond is an anime antagonist wanna-be, and he dies strugglign with his seatbelt. It's hilarious. I bet they don't include that detail either since they either miss the point or want to refute it entirely.
>>221073780lmao, of course they did. It cut Viserys and now Aemond, but they'll refuse to let Hillary Targaryen be cut.
>>221073821They're all cunts in the story, but the show wants to have a clear good team/bad team dynamic. But they seem more focused on making Rhaenyra Emma D'Arcy's self insert then portraying a bitch.
The problems with House of the Dragon began when Milly Alcock and Emily Carey (who says they're queer and non-binary) played the characters as having a romantic undertone to them. Which like the random makeout session Rhaenyra has with the worm bitch they claim was totally not trying to "queerbait" despite doing just that.
>>221073809He didn’t want balerion to become a long hall
>>221073536>and treat aegon iii as a dear memento of rhaenyra, everything will be about rhaenicent after allKEK'd out loud, would not put it past them to remove Alicent's last crazy stunt in the story:"Following the deaths of her parents, brothers, uncles, and dragon in the Dance, and the victory of the blacks, Jaehaera was married to her cousin, King Aegon III Targaryen, as part of the peace agreement.Jaehaera's grandmother was rarely allowed contact with her at this time. When they finally did share a meal, Alicent told her to slit her husband's throat in his sleep, setting the child to screaming."
>>221073938>The problems with House of the Dragon began when Milly Alcock and Emily Carey (who says they're queer and non-binary) played the characters as having a romantic undertone to them.Nah that's most likely Sarah's influenceShe's trying to self insert too hard as RhaenyraI don't understand how can someone write this shit and not realize how lame it isI almost respect her for it because it doesn't seem she has realized she is throwing away her careerUnlike D&D she can't rely on her daddy being an HBO exec
>>221073722>>221073757>Noble's leave embarrassed by what they ate and don't want to admit they were forced to eat rats>Lie and say "Uh the queen just invited us to a regular old feast" despite the starving people >It becomes a big misunderstanding yet again that the bitch queen was stuffing her face while everyone starved!This is going to happen.
>>221073961>JaehaeraHonestly her, the siblings and her mom are the only ones I felt bad for. Especially after Peake.
>>221073722Simply devilish
>>221073972I'm pretty sure both actress' claimed they weren't told there was meant to be that, they just pushed for it themselves.Granted I know Condal and Sarah would easily agree to it without a shadow of a doubt the second someone suggested they could make the two female leads act gay.
Pic related is accurateThey really F'ed up Rhaenyra
>Baela meant to be a tomboy with short hair and dressed for riding her dragon>Instead she's a negress with shitty looking hair usually in a dressI don't get it. You would think the feminists would love to have a tomboy to make her a stronk womyn. Instead they just neutered her.
>Rhaenyra is meant to be plump>Emma won't fatten up and Sarah won't push for itSeems very fatphobic for two supposedly progressive women.
>The idea to make Alicent a main character instead of Aegon came from Sapochnik's wifeIt's amazing that some litterally who has fucked up what could have been the best tv show in historyLike, did no one had the foresight to see they would struggle to have Alicent do anything meaningful in a dragon civil war?
How do later Targs feel about those from the Dance of the Dragons? Do the likes of Baelor and Maekar just think on them like>Wow, what a bunch of fucking retards?
>>221074079Idk who’s worse, these one track minded witches who make everything about feminism or the faggot sackless simps who enable them
>>221074094Their lowest moment caused by a bunch of retards that lost them their dragons and began the slow descent of their power.
>>221074094>”damn, the maesters outsmarted our ancestors and now we have no power anymore, those fucking chad geniuses damn them; they won!”
>>221074094Aegon III was just depressed seeing mom getting chompedDareon I was too busy gassing himself upThe rest more then likely see them as massive retards who destroyed their biggest strength over a easily avoidable situation. Varying opinions on who was the "right" heir between the two, probably saw Viserys as a limp wristed tard because he refused to change the heir from Rhaenyra to Aegon, but also didn't do much of anything to secure Rhaenyra's place.
House Morrigen best stormlands house just saying
By now the war is already starting so the rest of the show is just gonna be battles and characters dying. All the character work is already done, and no one is going to get any more interesting, rendering the action moot
>>221074051They probably believe tomboy = dyke or FtM tranny and that would go against her marrying Alyn.
If nettles was in the show; black men would complain about her getting bwc’d by daemon; and the gays would complain that the tomboy girl boss would be a lesbian and never go for daemon. These are the “practical issues” Condal told George were the reasons for changing his story
>>221074079>what could have been the best tv show in historyShe's a huge retard but let's not exaggerate.
Tongue in cheek pulpy corny dark comedy action bloodbath adaption of the dance was the only version of that story that would ever work on screen. The last thing I would have done would be make it a boring dry deathly serious sermon about the patriarchy
>>221074411Her being a loli and Daemon not being a Rhaenyra simp would be an issue too I guess.
>>221074226One of the best, for sure. But they have a lot of competition in the stormlands.
>>221074051to be honest, i wish they'd just cut baela and rhaena. they were always superfluous and kinda cringy in the books.
>>221073961Is that AI? I'm 99% sure but need closure.
>>221074679George seems to have the delusion that characters inherit the coolness of their parents. “You guys loved the red viper, wait til you see his daughters!>daemon is so heckin cool and therefore his boring daughters are too by osmosis! No they aren’t George, they suck
I personally had no respect for women until they turned my dragonslop show into a vehicle for feminist messaging, which absolutely reached me. I now respect women and apologize for the entire history of humanity and our mistreatment towards our fairer sex.
>>221074289You're also watching tons of insanely boring black people fighting. Who cares
>>221074746It truly just took a woman in a crown with a dragon behind her looking vacantly into the distance to make me realize the errors of my chud ways. We NEED to elect a female president guys
Why did any of the Ironborn volunteer to stand with Theon at Winterfell instead of leaving?Like Black Lorren clearly doesn't respect Theon, but he volunteers to stay and try to hold the drawbridge. Why didn't they just all leave with Asha?
>>221074662Who else is there? Genuine question, I know little about the Stormlands or the houses there besides >Connington>Tarth>Dondarrion
>>221075126Selmy, Swann, Caron, Horpe, Seaworth (more recent), Buckler, Gower, Estermont, and more, a bunch of which have produced some really good fighters or leaders. To say nothing of the Durrandons and Baratheons, of course.Definitely agree about Morrigen being based tho. Probably in my top 5.
>>221074698>He thinks it's AI*laughs like a fatman*
>>221075126>Morrigen being based thowhy tho
>>221074698You mean the pic or fatman's shitty writing?
>>221075197>and BaratheonsI don't recognize bastard lineages. The Durrandons were right to dismiss an offer that was such a blatant insult.
>>221075227I assume he meant the picture and not Alicent trying to tell her traumatized grandchild to murder her traumatized husband.
new thread>>221075282>>221075282>>221075282
>>221075262Fair enough. But at the end of the day, the Baratheons are just a continuation of the Durrandons anyway. Same sigil, seat, words, traits, etc. Plus they got revenge by overthrowing the (((Targ))) dynasty.
