House of the Dragon S03: Already Forgotten Edition
>>221310840Old thread:>>221307421
>>221310840haven't even watched the new season after the garbage that was s2how bad is it?
>>221310840Hear hear for the one true King!
>We want to attack their ships with our dragons.>Okay, so what's the best way to do that?>Iunno, I guess we just fly right at them get real low for some reason and randomly burn guys standing on the top decks for some reason, get targetted by every anti-dragon weapon and guys with crossbows and shit and then just die?>Sounds great, let's do that 5 fucking times.I get it's a dumb fantasy series. But jesus christ this happens literally every time. Has nobody written the Dragon vs Ship Art of War in this universe or something?
>>221307977unreliable narrator. after a few centuries a couple zoomer maesters changed those details so they could sell more bibles to summer islanders
>>221310891This actually makes sense because Jace and Baela have really young and small dragons so they have to get really close to do it. Of course in the book it made sense that Jace was there leading because Rhaenyra was off crying and not able to fight, Baela's dragon was too small to ride at all and you had the dragonseeds there to make up for it (and makes sense Jace is the one who dies because he's the only one with a small vulnerable dragon and being more emotionally motivated to win the fight because he cares about both Driftmark and his brother he would have been closer to the fight)
>>221310840I lost interest with the vision/dream sequence that Daemon went through in S2. Is it worth rewatching from S1 to catch up?
>>221310866>how bad is it?It took me two nights of watching to get thru S03E01... and I was FF thru much of it.
>>221310840I'm not even racist, but honestly, the black characters are too jarring. It doesn't make any sense why there would be random black knights, soldiers, citizens, let alone valyrians. Every time I see a black character in this european universe it just makes me want to stop watching, can't get immersed at all.
best episode of the show so faror at least top 3
how long until Unwin Peake becomes a thing in the show?
He did nothing wrong
>>221310968the worst part is I know I'll watch it eventually just to be able to shitpost about it properly but it feels like such a chorefuck it I should probably just get started
>battle of the episode is a tranny fighting a niggerjust as george intended
>>221310973>I'm not even racist, but honestly, the black characters are too jarringMost of us aren't. We, like you, are only pointing out how ridiculous that shit is.
>>221310891It’s good tactics to overextend yourself into a situation where you’re totally isolated, surrounded, and the focus of fire.
>>221311022>Sperged out against Luke, starting the war earlier than the Greens wanted>Sperged out against Aegon, depriving the Greens of a dragon and dragonrider when they were already outnumber>Sperged out against Alicent, driving her retarded ass into the hands of Maegor with Teats>Sperged out against Larys, driving him to support a wounded Aegon >Sperged out against Sharp Point, alienating regular nobles across the realm>Sperged out against common sense by locking down the city when they already (apparently) cannot feed the populace, causing riots and unrest>Sperged out against Helaena, failing to secure a desperately need dragon and dragonrider>Sperged out against Orwyle, burning yet another bridge>Sperged out against Cole and Gwayne by not arriving sooner, endangering them to an attack from Daemon or the dragonseedsCan you name 1 good decision AEMOND has made? And no, the Rook's Rest gambit is not an option. That was Cole's idea and Aemond fucked it up by turning the messy scenario Aegon showing up into an unmitigated disaster by trying to fucking kill him.
>What position would you have me do?
>>221311195he picked out a sick gem for his eye
>>221310973the black male characters look okay. the black female princesses look like hoodrats straight out of the ghettothey should've cast hot chicks for the roles of baela and rhaena
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>>221310975other than big boom and bangs, what else was there to praise about this episode? the writing is the same dogshit as S2
>>221310840charles leclerc edition
>>221311245Damn right
>>221311232we'll start with cowgirl
>>221310840egg is icsh
#girlboss
>>221311232We'll go with what I call the Targaryen Twister
>>221311373the conqueror is going to say "i came, i saw, i conquered" directly into the camera
>wearing armor on a ship>somehow swords can pierce said armor>somehow people don't sink when they wear said armorDid those negroes use the tin from their microwave dinner or what?>archers and crossbows are somehow ineffective>both characters cut their way through mindless npcs while fighting eachother>somehow said npcs don't stab the main character in the backFucking slop man. Aegon once more shinned by refusing to kneel.
>>221311373>*sniff* i may appear *sob* to be a weak and *sniff* feeble woman but i possess *sob* the heart and spirit of a king ;((((
>>221311263the funniest part is it's unironically his best strategic move>lose eye>get sapphire>become instantly more recognizable than every other silver-haired freak in the familybranding mogged the entire small council
Harren could've conquered the seven kingdoms if he put a big speargun on top of Harrenhall.Those things have the highest dragon killcount in the entire series.
>>221311503Aegon was actually extremely dumb not to do it, he could have escaped easily but he would have died there without Larys saving him again
I'm watching it now and it's a pain, did we really need more filler scenes like the one of Corlys and his son doing nothing
Why did he do it?
>>221311641who can resist olivia cooke looking breedable?
>>221311641A Targaryen with mommy/daddy issues is more common than a dead Beesbury.
>>221311641They kinda forgot to tell him that only sibling, cousin, and occasional uncle/niece incest is allowed in House Targaryen.
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>>221311641it's hot
Are the dragons jobbers in the books?
Cute and canon!
Is Dany the best dragon rider in history? Just look at what she did in the final battle . Everyone in hotd is a total amateur in comparison
>>221311670w-what is she doing with her hand?? She's not thinking of her own son is she???
>>221311801Baela and Moondancer are up there. I wonder how they'll rewrite Sunfyre killing her.
>>221310840>watch the first episode of the new season expecting it to be shityup, still shit
>>221311788Daemon probably deep down wished he had been born a woman like Visenya, so he could have married Viserys instead and be his warrior queen.
>>221311670this bitch is so fucking fat. she needs to lose weight asap. get her started on ozempic
>>221310973nowhere does GRRM say that Valyrians are white/can't be black just that they have white hair. And Velaryons were always a lesser family compared to Targaryens. I got over it eventually, fine, have your niggers.
>>221311825He cares more about viserys than he ever did about rhaenyra, so it’s prob true.
>>221311836> Valyrians are white/can't be black just that they have white hair.Valyrian/Lyseni/Dayne traits: Pale skin, Ethereal beauty, Silver hair, Purple eyes
>>221310973My issue is when a fantasy series does establish that there is a Africa equivalent country in their setting with black people, so logically any time you see a black person they are a foreigner who's traveled literally across the world so meeting one would be a rare experience like how Summer Islanders are in this setting, but then the adaptation has black people with no explanation so it makes no sense how they are there and considered normal.For instance, the Witcher. There's a Africa country, so when Geralt encounters some people from there its mentioned how exotic and rare it is to see dark skin. Cue the show having tons of random black peasants.It just takes away from the world building of the setting.
>>221310840I'm a simple manlike: GOT s1-2-3-4dislike: GOT s5-6-7Hate: GOT s8 / HOTD / AKOTSK
>>221310973they are so ugly
watched it, it was shitholy fuck everyone was a complete idiot in this, much worse than the book
>>221311232a handstand slammer to begin, then we move to the warp drive
>>221311373>But I have the heart and stomach...of a CONCRETE ELEPHANT
>>221311978It is written by idiots still
>>221311836By this point in the timeline they’d married into House Targaryen a few times. If the Velaryons are black then the Targs in the show should all look like Rhaena and Baela.
Ahem
>>221312013It actually subtracted a great deal of "depth", or should I say girth, from Rhaenyra.
>>221311801Bigger dragon that's actually listening to her and she didn't really have anyone opposing her. This episode for example Jace and Baela are newbies on younger dragons that would still have done ok helping each other if not for the clusterfuck of a rogue Rhaena getting in the way, note what actually killed Jace was calling off his dive at Rhaena at the last minute to not kill her which instead got him closer to the water.
who's the biggest jobber in HOTD?
>>221312013can I have this pic of her without the bullshit? she looks very nice in it
>>221312032is there anyone who's not a complete jobber even? this is tough competition
>>221312013ai slop *bends you over and rapes you up the ass*
>>221312013The show might be good if they actually did this but they didn’t. HOTD isn’t even a proper story. They’re just stitching together a bunch of set pieces from the book and making the characters monologue from time to time to give them “depth”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grQ97A1UpL0
>>221310973theres no point trying to complain now, every fantasy show is gonna have a mixed cast
>>221312013>depth>ACKTCHUALLY the blacks did nothing wrong
I wouldn't mind having Baela as my arranged marriage wife
>>221312059Unless you could find it and distribute it entirely on your own. I don’t think a show could get made in the current year without any black extras. There’s probably some kind of quota enforcement at play.
im just glad Lohar is gone
>>221312057Yeah the book isn’t an actual story with an actual dramatic structure like Dunk and Egg is. F&B is just a list of shit that happens without any kind of actual insight into the players on the board.
>>221312084What if I demanded the studio cast only white actors when they want to adapt my work. No whites only, no rights to adapt my work.
>>221312074Jace...
>>221312101Lohar and Corlys and Corlys' son wasted like a third of this episode, thank fuck that stupid boat sank too
>>221310840sheepstealer smoking all the valerian boats has been the best scene so far
>>221312125I don’t think that would fly with any large production company. If you wanted it made you’d have to make that concession.
>>221312167why did Rhaena think bringing a wild dragon and screaming commands it's never heard before at it would work?
>>221312125that could probably work if you ask Ben in the Daily Wire
>>221312176she's a character in a bad retarded show
Jace’s death scene is extremely retarded
>>221312013>it's storytellingit's shit storytelling
>>221312198I can live with no adaptation and just leave instructions for how I want my adaptation to be when I'm dead and the work is in the public domain.
>>221312013>blacks: women and bipoc who can do no wrong>greens: white rapist chuds who only think about rapewow that's crazy depth
>>221312204you know I actually liked the general idea of her being so obsessed with getting a dragon after she got cucked out of Vhagar and that backfiring somehow but the way it happened was just really stupid, they should have kept Nettles instead
>>221312176>screaming commands it's never heard beforeIts heavily implied that dragons have a basic, innate grasp of Valyrian, they are pretty smart. Sheepstealer kinda inverts the rider-dragon dynamic in that he's in control the whole time, he lets her ride him, then dumps her on a mountain while he goes grab some food and tosses her some. She flies him to a fight so he just fights whoever he likes. With another dragon it possibly could have worked but Sheepstealer is just too sigma
>>221312176i think its being intentionally implied that she's not too bright. she had issues getting one in the first place and only managed to befriend the one that's retarded, like her
>>221312205it kinda works because he aborts a dive so he doesn't kill rhaena which is why the momentum makes him fly so low and he gets hit and baela can't help in time also because sheepstealer is trying to kill them boththe timing on these is a bit off though but i kinda get what they're going for
>>221312176She wasn’t thinking. She’s a petulant little shit who WaNtEd A dWaGoN and then thought she’d swoop in a be a hero and everyone would be so impressed. I hope Rhaenyra burns her for abandoning Aegon the Younger, Viserys, Joffrey and the dragon eggs.
>>221312254>she had issues getting one in the first placeshe didn't, her egg just wasn't hatching and she was grieving her mom instead of rushing to claim her dragon asap
>>221312254and to think she actually thought she had a chance of claiming Vhagar lmao.Probably helps that Vhagar seemed to have her own taste in riders, she liked brave people who had the guts to approach a giant ass dragon like her to claim, whereas Rhaena was too chickenshit to do so.
>>221312278nta but on the contrary, we see she was brave enough to try and tame a wild dragon which is way more dangerousshe didn't try to claim Vhagar immediately because her mother just died and she was probably just mourning and not in the right state of mind to try it right away
>>221312273holy shit I forgot she was supposed to be watching the nieces. what an idiot
>>221312239how would being smart result in "innately" knowing something they've never heard before?we see the other dragons being taught to follow commands with people taming them
>>221312273>abandoning Aegon the Younger, Viserys, Joffrey and the dragon eggs.I forgot this even happened, this makes it even worse
>>221312273>gets her son and heir killed>also abandoned her other sonsgoddamn there's no way Rhaenyra should EVER forgive this.
>>221312367it's fine she will bond with alicent over both of them hating their sons anyway
>>221312273They’re all bastards anyway
>>221312045>is there anyone who's not a complete jobberAemond
>>221312377>all bastardsman I forgot that even lil Aegon and Viserys are bastards in the show too, since Laenor was still alive somewhere.This fucking show man.
>>221312377two of those bastards will end up being kings so it doesn't matter though
>>221310982The regency will be different because Aegon is way younger, he was meant to have a role in the Gullet
>>221312384>fucked entire plan by starting the war early by killing luke>sabotages his own side by trying to kill his brother >ditches his allies constantly>manages to do nothing useful and dies in a 1v1 despite having the strongest dragon in the worldhe's one of the worst
>>221312395they could timeskip after he gets crowned
We have come to die for the dragon queen.
>>221312424Not to mention that, Aegon is supposed to be scarred by the Dance, literally his defining trait, which isn’t really the case if he’s just three or so. Butterflys as George says
>>221312446I don't think they'll do anything interesting with his character, he'll just be there as a mcguffin to symbolize Rhaenyra "winning". They'll probably give Alicent a greater role and have her "save" him by poisoning Aegon II or some shit.
>>221312442the woke north
>>221312457It’s such a shame because now obviously Rhaenyra’s death and therefore Aegon II’s endgame, which is by far the most compelling arc in the Dance, is going to be muted, without Aegon the Younger around. And it screws up the show if they’re intending to go into the regency
>>221311937Same
>>221311832I don’t get this meme
Would Alicent let Aemomd fuck her like he let her kiss her
>Yeah i am woke and will die for a woman, what are you gonna do about it incel chud?
>>221312544Hunter Schafer looking zesty!
>>221312632Schafer is hotter
anyone giggled when that tranny pirate got ACKed?
>>221311373heart of delulu maybe.
Why did she ripped that dress with a knife
>>221312551Is this The Micho? Is he still drawing these?
>>221312544sex
>>221312674Expressing her frustration that her feeble woman’s body is restricted by the patriarchy by cutting up her dress.
To be honest they should have merged Rhaena and Baela into one character.
>>221312660yeah I was cheering on
>>221312683https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Roderick_Dustin>TheMarkyGallery ©I dont know anon i just took it from the wiki
>>221312713no, baela was actually useful
>>221312704except this is stupid because none of this had anything to do with being a woman, it was the part where she kept wanting to risk everyone's lives because she trusted an enemy
>>221312751I know but that’s the reason. She says as much right before she does it. The show likes to lean into the evil patriarchy thing except they forgot to make the female characters actually competent so it just makes the male characters look justified when they take a choice away from Rhaenyra.
Remember when Viserys was gonna travel to Dragonstone and make Daemon give back the dragon egg he stole but then Otto stopped him because he is the crown and could not put himself in dangerSo Viserys was locked inside his room and started cutting up his royal robes and crying about being a king spiritually?
>You NEED to go to Harrenhal! The castle has withstood dragonfire once before. Yes, Harrenla, my son, you must og there. The castle famous for getting roasted by dr- I mean, famous for being invulnerable to flames!What the fuck is her problem
>>221312713The whole point of why the Velaryons support Rhaenyra is because Jace and Luke are marrying Laena’s daughters, if there’s only one daughter then Luke would inherit Driftmark without an actual Velaryon as consort, which would be a no-go.
>>221312722It seems like it's another artist, but probably inspired by The Micho, very similar style.>https://www.deviantart.com/themarkygallery/gallery/77810052/asoiaf-characters>https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Category:Images_by_TheMico
>>221312848I still can't believe this guy's chin is real.
>>221312848Alicent kind of forgot that she used to want her son on the throne and that she hated Rhaenyra. Seriously if this was always supposed to be Alicent she could have just done nothing, Aegon didn't even want to be king until she bullied him into it.
>>221312853That’s hardly worth having another useless character onscreen. All they had to do was say that Jace and Baela’s second or third born gets Driftmark.
>>221312853technically they could have just married the one girl to Luke and found a better match for Jace
>>221312848>her problemthe problem is the writers dont give a fuck, harrenhal exists as THE castle people bring up to remind everyone that no castle can survive dragonseven GOT show only secondaries know thisthe only people who dont know are the writers who are somehow worse than tourists
>>221312883Luke is the rightful heir to Driftmark, it would be tacitly acknowledging his parentage
>>221312889also even if it was safe what was aemond supposed to do, hide in the castle while vhagar gets killed and they come for him anyway?
>>221312872There’s real potential to tell a story about Aegon as the man who actually had to wear the crown that Alicent stole from Rhaenyra. Shame we wont get anything like that.
>>221312887Then what is Corlys getting out of it? His lineage gets cucked and his blood isn’t even on the throne?
>>221312907Yeah but his name lives on or some bullshit
>>221312907Corlys' whole retardation is he cares about his family name more than the actual bloodline. It doesn't make sense in a feudal society but it's what the writers have written him to be.
>>221312916Aegon really needed to be positioned as the head of the greens. Alicent has fucking nothing to do that justifies her being a main character after Aegon becomes King.
>>221312902They are so obsessed with the Rhaenicent shit they're passing up actually interesting possibilities. Like they had Aegon and Jace and Luke be friends as kids but that goes nowhere and they probably didn't even intend the irony of the show versions of Aegon and Jace both being insecure and getting killed trying to prove themselves to their moms who care more about each other than their children.
Idk how the actress manages it but each time Rhaenyra cries or gets upset I just feel a primal impulse to hold her down and rape her
>>221312920Didn’t mean to (You)
>>221312918>actual bloodlineHe still cares about his bloodline, that’s why he married his granddaughters to the Strong boys. When Jace dies and there’s no hope of that he switches sides.
>>221312932You guys always make it sound like this easy thing to pull off.
>>221312907could arrange for Jace's firstborn to marry one of Luke and Baela/Rhaena's kids
>>221312947nta but he doesn't change sides as much as Rhaenyra imprisons him and he's stuck with the greens by default and still turns on them later
>>221312920The whole point of Aegon’s character is that he is pushed into being king and is an unsuitable drunkard, and then he steps up because he wants revenge
I haven't read the books but wtf are the Iron Islands doing during this whole thing? Aren't they the "every time anything happens we chimp out and raid around until things calm down enough for the crown to come beat us for being retarded" faction?
>>221312932pipe down, alicent
A SON FOR A SON
LORD ASHFORD FUCKS HIS SHEEP!
>>221312907Corlys is an example of how fucking stupid a man can be when he's ruled by his own ambition.He is so desperate to have his blood on the throne that he's willing overlook all the bullshit offences Rhaenyra does to his House. He literally has to settle for a possible great-grandchild being king, despite there being no way he's going to live to see it since he's already old as shit.He raised his house to the very peak of fame and untold riches, and lost it all due to his own hubris to the point where his family becomes irrelevant again, its just a shame to see.
>>221312957Too many conditions and variables, and opportunities for it to go wrong. At that’s points he’s fighting for… his great great grandchildren to be on the throne?
>>221312991I mean he does this because he gets cucked out of marrying Laena to Viserys, it's literally his next best option and a pretty good deal if it worked.
>>221312981actually your 3 sons and a grandson for my bastard son
>>221312991NTA but there's actually no correct path for Corlys/House Velaryon. The civil war happens no matter which side he joins. Everyone is leery of dragon vs dragon fights because of how precious they are as assets which means "softer" targets like random vulnerable castles or big expensive fleets are more convenient punching bags.If he joined the Greens his shit would get roasted anyway, it would just be in a different way.
>>221312971He can still do that as the main green. The story would have been better as brother vs sister, rather than force Alicent where she logically has little to do.
>>221313000well this is already a what if, he made his choice when there was both a baela and a rhaena and he'd get one on the throne and the other in driftmark along with himself being the hand of the queenthe alternative was losing everything because the hightowers didn't want his family anywhere near the throne
>>221313019The correct path was making Laena his heir using the precedent Viserys set with Rhaenyra that the eldest can inherit regardless of gender.
>>221310840hope they will start implementing AI in the process soon. Tired of these 2 year waits between seasons and there is no difference between the cgi slop and what AI can do nowadays. Ofc adjust it by hand in post processing.
>>221313034>his heirs are now baela and rhaena and then their children, wow just like he actually chose
>>221313034Sure, but that doesn't change anything material. My point is House Velaryon's wealth is embodied physically in its fleet, which is getting torched no matter which side Corlys picks. They're too exposed.
>>221313044Laena marries Daemon after Jace is born
>>221313044I suppose the only difference would be better optics since they wouldn’t be married to obvious bastards.
>>221313049There would be no civil war if Corlys isn’t backing Rhaenyra
>>221313074literally no one cared about that other than the greens who were already against his entire family regardless of who they married
>>221311641There is an element of transgressive incest with the Hightower family, different from the “oriental” Valyrian consanguineous marriage kind. Allicent was manipulated by her father all her life. He used her womanhood as a sexual advantage to seduce and marry the king (another symbolic father figure as she probably saw Viserys as an ucle/her best friend’s dad) and his comment “You remind me so much of your mother” while admiring her has all sorts of implications. Allicent is repressed and sexually disordered which makes her perform poorly as a mother since she can’t create proper family politics. She’s distant and avoidant and at most can only do what she learned from Otto. Aemond’s behavior is a reflection of her parenting. His incestuous kiss and mommy complex are the result of his family’s disfunction not some inherent Targaryen affinity for relatives. Parent-child incest is always taboo, even among Targaryens.
>>221312889>harrenhal exists as THE castle people bring up to remind everyone that no castle can survive dragonsWasn't it described as having melted towers and shit in GRRM's books? Bothered me from the start. Like what's the point of adapting these shows from books if you will just go against basic shit like this
>>221313006Would never have been a civil war had Viserys chosen Laena, like imagine him trying to tell the rider of Vhagar that her sons aren't going to inherit and he still wants his fuck up of a daughter to be queen.
The series would be better as an animated series. The story has too many glup shittos doing plot important things, which is difficult to adapt with a series that treats Rhaenyra and Alicent as its focal main characters. The writers fucked up by focusing so hard on them, but at the same time I get why they did it. But now they're stuck with a series that tries to force Alicent and Rhaenyra into a story that largely surpasses them.
Nice heir you got there blackshits
>>221313105No, the writers are retarded, and are writing things around big dragon battles rather than characters.
>your arch-rival suddenly shows up alone at your capital to talk face to face>could just nab her and end the war right then and there>let her gohow many times now
>>221313105>The writers fucked up by focusing so hard on themthey're doing this on purpose though, the book wasn't like this
>>221311245>the Velaryon princesses of Chase Infiniti and Ella Balinska
>>221313105>The story has too many glup shittos doing plot important thingszoomers can barely speak english anymore kek
Ok, I've just watched s3e1. I already went in with very low expectations and was only disspointed even further. Pure nonsense. I don't even mind that Aemond wants to fuck his mother now, I would too if I was him. But everything was just garbage. But I don't care enough anymore to hate it. It's just whatever. Not sure you can even shitpost about this drivel, but I guess I'll be back hanging out here with you guys.
So, when Jace is born, Corlys clocks that Jace is a bastard. He marries Laena off to one of his Velaryon nephews. He then declares her heir using the Rhaenyra precedent. Viserys can’t do shit and it’s now an open secret that Jace is a bastard. Corlys then rendezvous with Otto and agrees to stand by and let a coup happen when Viserys dies. Absolutely nobody supports Rhaenyra becoming queen and the Greens muscle her out. Helaena is married to Corlys grandson because the Greens wanted Andal marriages anyway. That’s how I’d play it if I was Corlys.
>Nobody Rhaena gets more screen time than Aegon
>>221313091I don't think there would be any way to accurately portray Harrenhal in a live action setting without it being all cgi.Just reading the description of the castle its so immensely huge that its comical how insane the dude who built it was. A gatehouse the size of Winterfell's main keep, walls so thick there was dozens of murderholes before passing through the gate, towers so tall before they were melted, etc.
>>221311334lol I haven't been here in months, nice to see the I Could Sex Him poster is still arround.
>>221313186Glup shittos are minor characters that only nerds remember. Characters like Addam and Alyn Velaryon, Jon Roxton, Unwin Peake, Gaemon Palehair, Trystan Truefyre, all the Riverlands/Westerlands characters. The Dance of the dragons is a great story to read but putting in on screen accurately confuses the normie.Do you understand now, unc?
>>221313213the greens would have sidelined or otherwise fucked over corlys, he was a threat to their poweralso daemon would still have started something, he would never accept a hightower on the throne
>EASE THE SHEEITS
>>221310840alicent is not valyrian but has children with a valyrian king. Non-valyrian female+old valyrian king with a wasting disease.his daughter is valyrian but has some children with a non-valyrian mr strong. valyriane young female+young very healthy non-valyrian noblechances were that the children of alicent would most likely look non-valyrian and not those of R.....
>>221313275Where are you getting the Green-Corlys animosity from? And the Green heir is still not the official heir, they don’t really have any cards to play. What’s Daemon going to do without Velaryon backing, he’s not married to Laena here?
>>221312013The text of that image is 100% AI generated. It has a negative parallelism + em dash.
>>221313316Velaryons are still Valyrian supremacists. They're naturally opposed to an Andal take over, which supporting the Greens would eventually mean
>>221313177>Ella Balinskai join team black for she
>>221313310the seed is strong
>>221313316he's a targaryen and has a dragon?
>>221310840
>>221313310The hightowers were blonde and looked like valyrians
>>221313390Corlys has Vhagar and Meleys
>>221313349Corlys literally allowed his bloodline to be subverted by Riverlander bastards, he clearly as eccentric ideas
I think the issue is ASOIAF is a series that is almost entirely built on intricately connected Glup Shitto relationships. When you try to port it to television it doesn't work as well.
>>221313310>>221313375>>221310840the thing is that mr zombie king dna would not dominate most likely and alicent would give birth to kids that looked like the hightowers.But R plus mr Strong would either produce valyrian children, more likely than alicent plus zombie king would.any ways alicent would be fucked.The show cannot even make sense in thise things. And dragonriders with no armor (most just wear clothing or some leather harley davidson with wings attire except for the dragonknight) climbing dragons with bone ridges/spikes and holding on with bare hands, GoT did it too. they started this idiocy. This is the Benny Hill show but with dragons and less babes and not as funny.
>>221313398was he willing to have his wife and daughter risk their lives to fight daemon so he could put hightowers on the throne?
>>221313397>The hightowers were blonot in the tv series, if they are in the lore they sh
>>221313397alicent is dark haired in book illustrations
>>221313440define Glup Shitto
>>221313458The Green boys will have dragons too, and Daemon is not some demi-god that can withstand the will of the entire realm. He’d be in Essos sulking
>>221313445>the thing is that mr zombie king dna would not dominatewhy? valyrian blood magic works in mysterious ways
>>221313397>The hightowers were blonde and looked like valyriansyeah some are described luke this but they ran out of hair dye in the tv series just like they ran out of hair dye for jaime lannister in the GoTparody shows
>>221313479it just looks stupid in the show, the people making this are just utterly messy
>>221313477corlys would be making his choice to side with hightowers before he'd even know thatalso daemon was popular, so was young rhaenyra, if they also married that's two dragons plus any that their kids may have
>>221313397>>221313460In the books the Hightowers are strongly implied to look valyrian. They and House Dayne are the two ancient houses in southern Westeros who inexplicably have valyrian DNA from a time long before the conquest. It hints at a deeper lore that we will never ever get the resolution off.
Random observation:During the naval battle I liked that for once a military force in a universe that expects facing hostile dragons is packing custom equipment just for fighting dragons. A harpoon + anchor to try and drown enemy dragoniggers is very fitting.I didn't like that this military advancement(for lack of a better term) was restricted only for the use of one named character who landed it in one hit.Would have been better if it turned out several ships in the Triarchy fleet, setting sail knowing full well they would likely face dragons, had the harpoon+anchor combo ready and during a volley one or two got lucky and landed hits.
>>221313505>look valyrian.yes but no hair dye for alicent.....
>Who are you?>I'm a witch>Ok
ROPE ANCHORS
BRING THE GRAPNELS
>>221313579>Sharako: -ACK!!
>>221313511>fighting dragonsthey have made dragons a lesser threat since GoT with the magical javelin (a dragon is nothing), siege crossbows that can target and strike them with not much fuss and other projectiles that can effect them. Most such attacks would miss 99% of the time with many being impossible to hit anything and even then the chance of it being fatal would be like winning the lottery.Such weapons were inaccurate to the point of being useless when applied to dragons.
>>221312932I prefer consensual sex, personally.
So are they making Jace and Rhanyra act like mental patients to try and stop everyone defaulting to the blacks being the good guys, or is this from the source material?
>>221313475anything I don't likealso uh...focus M
>>221313638depends, big adult dragons sure but the smaller ones can be killed more easily because their scales aren't tough enoughlike how stormcloud was a baby and got pinchushioned and why vermax could get a hook stuck in him
What do you weigh in that armor?
>>221312932The actress isn't a woman anon, take greater care when exercising pronoun usage
>>221313511>fighting dragons.dragonriders would be fully armored and with thick clothing and head/eye covers.....dragons past an age would be immune to any projectile except a trebuchet rock due to their scales hardening etc unless their eyes or wing membranes were struck.we have flying chickens with flamethrowers here
>>221313659In the source material Rhaenyra had done no leading since Luke died. Jace was in charge all along and ran around getting a bunch of allies, convinced Corlys to stay on as Hand, recruited the dragonseeds on Dragonstone, planned the King's Landing attack that he didn't get to take part in, and was leading and died at the Gullet because Rhaenyra was mentally checked out and still injured from the miscarriage and had no interest in fighting at all. Basically Jace got character assassinated, he was extremely based in the source material with his only drawback being Vermax being one of the smaller dragons.
>>221313678making them a threat as a fulcrum of historical events is alpha and omega in the story of the asoiaf universe, having them die off like that and being inconsistently capable has made a mess.
>>221312932I felt similarly whenever Otto was distressed
>>221310840Which dragon death made you more sad - Sunfyre or Vermax?
dreadful acting from this fella. Just no inflection in voice, just hoarse shouting
>>221313734Nah, his face was putting in the work. All the turmoil was clear as day.
>SHEEPSTEALER NOOOO THOSE ARE NOT ENEMIES
>>221313722yeah but those were full grown dragons and one still got killed with a lucky shot beforemakes sense that their hide and scales get tougher with age
>>221313702Which required fuckoff huge chains to restrain before but now are at the mercy of rope? Why include it if they get shot down anyway.
>>221313732Vermax, Sunfyre isn't even dead yet
>>221313732Meleys
>>221313734all the scenes of him and corlys are horrible, worse than watching paint dry
>be black>your dragon is called stealer
>>221313787They are so hot and breedable
>I may appear to be a weak and feeble woman, but I have the mouth and throat of a typhoon. Now get those pants down!
>seeing real people die>I yawn>ISIS beheadings, mass shootings, incidents>not even a twitch>CGI animal that doesn't even exist irl dies>seeing it scream and drown makes me incredibly sad How do they do it?
If sheepstealer has never had a rider, how does she know what dracarys means?
>>221313851we love our flying WMD dogs :)
>>221313851You are a woman, you cried when the dog died in John Wick and consider his subsequent actions justified
>>221313787You just know her blood was PUMPING her, oxygenated bright crimson blood cells flowing through her pink plump ovaries like a fucking expressway
>>221313852Maybe the dragon escaped from the dragonpit?
>>221313851Autism
>>221311373damn she looks old
>>221313871take the hint, Emmaget plapped and get pregnant
Why didnt Vermax fly harder?
Best scene
>>221313908Cool armor
>>221310840when the show the ground battle aftermath that thing they are hacking up is the lion they had in the cage right? just before the graybeards from the north arrive.
>>221313902he was too smol
This is such a retard complaint but ever since I watched Master And Commander all these ships in these series look too clean to me. I'm not even a "muh historical accuracy" guy, idk what any of the terms mean or anything but just the visuals of how cluttered and loaded a ship from the age of sail would look have stuck with me so hard that looking at Velaryon ships or whatever is like seeing an airbrushed low-poly version
>>221313908>Best scenewhy is the messenger supposedly smelling of manure or badly? what did i miss?
People who watch this slop are actual goycattle
>>221313927That's a movie based around a ship, of course it's going to be more detailed and researched.
>>221312866you don't have tooUS culture encourages body dysmorphia and surgeryits true enough for common plebs that I would assume most hollywood actors probably have had at least 1 face surgery
>>221313927Nah that's a legitimate complaint. Everything about this show is lazy
>>221313902He sacrificed himself so jace could go out mogging
>>221313944>detailed and researched.Not my point. It's more that my eyes have been spoiled by the visual depth and clutter of the ships in that movie so sailing ships in other works look like oversimplified toysImagine Star Wars star destroyers but they were actually smooth triangles of metal with no greebles or detailing, that's how it feels
>>221313952his chin is too disproportionate and too far away from the male beauty standard to be the result of plastic surgery
>>221312932
Never forgetti
>>221313929Needs a hit of that weed
>>221311232stop being a troon
>>221312932that's weird, dudewhy wouldn't you comfort her?
>>221313871When she finds out Jayce died she 100% ovulated on the spot as her Targaryen biology responded to the death of a child by doing its best to ensure more of its genes get passed on
>>221312656Poor Emma They wouldn't like you saying that
>>221310840>House of the Dragon S03: Already Forgotten Editionif we ever get elric of melibone and if its this low quality then its best we never get it.Nice special effects, but irrationality is all over the place in the series. Lots of mumbo jumbo. Wish it was good.Like battles, but we did not get to see the graybeards from the north fight like berserks out to die with honor in battle so they get to valhalla (which is what they are based on pretty much.).
>When the dragons come, your flesh will burn and blister and turn to ash. Your wives will dance in gowns of fire, shrieking as they burn, lewd and naked underneath the flames. And you will see little children weeping, weeping till their eyes do melt and slide like jelly down their faces, till their pink flesh falls black and crackling from their bones. The Stranger comes, he comes, he comes, to scourge us for our sins. Prayers cannot stay his wroth, no more than tears can quench the flame of dragons. Only blood can do that. Your blood, my blood, their blood. There the demons dwell, up there. Fire and blood, blood and fire. This is their city. If you would make it yours, first you must destroy them. If you would cleanse yourselves of sin, first must you bathe in dragon's blood. For only blood can quench the fires of hell.
>>221311232Surprise me.
>>221313989WOULD
>>221313310>>221313397>>221313505to clarify, the hightowers (and daynes) predate the valyrians
>>221311195>Sperged out against Luke, starting the war earlier than the Greens wantedThe war would have started anyway, but he got rid of a dragon and it's rider. >Sperged out against Aegon>Sperged out against AlicentBlack Propaganda, the show is written from the perspective of a radical queer feminist, who is Pro-Black>Sperged out against LarysHe didn't do nothing. This is a medieveal fantasy world. You can't constantly act offended over being a cripple.>Sperged out against Sharp Point, alienating regular nobles across the realm???>Sperged out against common sense by locking down the citydumb show writers>Sperged out against Helaenashe is weird>Sperged out against Orwyle, burning yet another bridgeThat guy had a responsibility to watch over Aegon.>Sperged out against Cole and Gwayne by not arriving soonerThat's the point. He has one big dragon. He can't let himself be ambushed.>Can you name 1 good decision AEMOND has made?I can name several.>claiming the biggest dragon in Westeros for himself>mastering the sword, instead of being a hedonistic fuck>being a aura-farming badass>picking a cool gem for his eye>supporting his brother's rightful claim to the throne, instead of letting a bastard-breeding whore of a woman be the queen>befriending Criston Cole>getting House Barathon to support the Greens>killing Luke Strong and his faggot dragon>killing the old hag and her hag dragon>becoming Lord RegentHe is the most competent Targaryen on the Green's side
>>221313977sexo
>It's another "guys wearing full armor don't completely obliterate guys wearing cloth" episode
>>221314028>to clarify, the hightowers (and daynes) predate the valyriansyes but its left vague to mystery reasons or for make some deep story link later on possibly
>>221313929Yes he stank, and Gwain is a posh boy (and gay)
>>221313880>I should have more babies
>greatest sailor alive>fall off boatlol
>>221314044armour slows you down
>>221313880Her womb feels empty already
>>221314013>Elric adaptationPlease, god, noBut on that note, what else will they now try to desecrate? Wizard of Earthsea? (even though Tombs would be perfect for Amazon)The Dragonbone chair? (no way people would stick with character development that's that slow)Maybe Blood Meridian
>>221310840also when vhaegar was stolen it should have been a huge issue despite the eye loss. its like having most of your air-force stolen with all its ammunition etcinstead it just flies away and that is it.
>>221313830That's a weird thing to say to your son, Rhaenyra.
>>221314081>also when vhaegar was stolenstop right there. you can't steal a dragon like vhagar
>>221314080>what else will they now try to desecrate?i feared they might tre to make elric but all black african cast or something like that to any story of note. They will probably setup a production line to make tens of stories and series like that.imagine saka zulu the series from the 80s with some zulus being blonde blue-eyed scandinavians. at least it would be funny
based momfucker
>>221314081go and claim it back :^)
TAOOBA
>>221314080I love le guinns work but none of her books should ever be adapted to screen, hopefully the suits in their offices understand this too
>>221314080>Elric adaptation>Please, god, no>But on that note, what else will they now try to desecrate?Elric of Melnibone was already Communist propaganda. You can't really desecrate it, only upgrade it.For context for people, who don't know. Elric belongs to a race of Super Valyrians and he decided to help the Humans genocide his own people. Why? Because they are evil colonialists oppressors, who have no empathy. It's completely insane. The other books of Moorcuck also are about similar themes. Like the hero joins the Elves, who are genocided by White-coded Humans and they decide to use secret Elf technology to completely genocide the Humans back and not stop, until they are wiped out. All of his books have themes of Whites finally being victim of a morally just genocide.So I don't really understand how someone can think "I hope they don't desecrate that story".
>>221314115Worst thing is, Elric is actually kinda progressive since he does get help from strong women charactersBut he also shags them, so that probably wouldn't flyIt'd just be too entertaining
>>221314126the king (zombie king has principles) would not accept his son being a thief, that guy would never allow this to just fly by despite the eye loss which was caused due to the theft.
I know oversimplifying plot events is leddit and cringe but it really feels like if Rhaena hadn't shown up on Sheepstealer to fuck everything up this would have been a victory for the Blacks even with Corlys getting ganked?>Blacks have uncontested air support without Sheepstealer causing random friendly fire + distracting both other Black dragons + contributing to Jace getting killed>Potentially even Corlys could have gotten away okay if one of the two Black dragons(undistracted by a third dragon chimping out) noticed the danger and flew over to help>At the end it looks like both fleets got fucking wrecked. Using that as a reference point, if the Blacks had uncontested AND undistracted air power they would have had a minor victory at the very leastNot like HOTD was ever top tier writing but I don't like how big narrative events from the books are having their outcomes dictated by "oh yeah there was a chimpout"-type random bullshit chaos
>>221314132HE SAID THE THING
>>221314132never gonna be a meme
>>221314142>desecrate that storydespite the negativy of the story, yes its self annihilating, its has a death aura about its atmosphere that goes beyond its distortion and inversion of heroism and of meaning of existence. That death aura can be redirected.
>>221314142to be fair I stopped at something like book 3, my man mainly wanted an iron grip on his kingdom and to be cool
>>221314151doesn't matter, you can;t enforce it. the flying WMD chose the twink, it was done from that moment on.
>>221314081>also when vhaegar was stolena dragon is not an object or a slave. it chooses its rider just as much as the rider chooses the dragon
>>221314134the Ghibli "adapation" still leaves me profoundly confusedBecause some of those environments and designs are actually fucking prime, but they're completely untethered in relation to the original world
>>221314187>can;t enforce it.its a weak now one-eyed kid, they can spank him literately he does not control the dragon via unlimited telepathic link. not even compensation was considered, like all eggs in they have and any eggs the dragon may produceits just "oh i just sneak by and talked to it and then rode it a bit and now its mine, thanks for the city/kingdom killer ultra-weapon"
>hit the harness instead of the dragon>CALL ME LOHAR DRAGON-SLAYERlol, lucky someone else finished the job
>>221314203>a dragon is not an object or a slave. it chooses its rider just as much as the rider chooses the dragonthe rider is a brat, the dragon can be the strongest but the rider is just a kid with barely hair on his chest- if he even grew any. the rider is a nothing
He comes....
>>221314213when leguin was shown that movies she was also super confused kekthe Japs are really shitty storytellers, at the end of the day. They're especially horrific with writing endings. I would like to see Ghibli make a film using a western lead writer one day
>>221310840why did the messenger stank of crap again?
In the books does Baela forgive her sister for getting Jace killed?
>>221314080>The Dragonbone chair/annoying women general/
No one likes Aemond....and where the hell is Otto
>>221314156>Sheepstealerrider climbs deadly spiked body and does not just die within the first few seconds from massive bleeding.....gives commands and can make dragon understand directions and locations etc.....and more whateverness
this episode had to be season finale I just couldn’t be arsed to care about any of these named losers dying
They killed off half the cast. Was it a cost cutting thing or did they just not renew their contracts?
>>221313920Oh right. I was wondering about that. I had completely forgotten they brought pets lol.
>>221314244Medieval lowborn naturaly attract mud and feces from their vicinity
>>221314269>where the hell is OttoIn Beesbury's basement
>>221314277the animal puppet/doll looked weird (mane fucked) must it must be the lion
Is Sunfyre coming back? Will he eat that dumb bitch?
>>221314295>Will he eat that dumb bitch?i am scared that the show won't follow the book ending
>>221314295Sunfyre ded bro
>>221314303Some have speculated Rhaenyra will order Sunfyre to burn her herself, in a final act of girlbossery
>>221314307show me the body
>>221314307When we're you whilst sun fires did?I was at some drink milk if the poppyBlacks call Sun is deafAnd you???
Women, am I right?
>>221314346
>>221313908Thats the only reason armour exists, to look cool. Doesnt matter how much plate you're wearing some guy will just cleave right through it with a blunt broad sword
>>221314234No, no, no!
>>221314333>Some haveIn other words, you and no one else.
>>221314372good reminder that the show died in season 5 lol
Why hasnt she show up yet?
>>221314250It’s show only
why didnt the dragon just sneeze fire onto the rope is it retarded?
>>221314440Little bit, lots of inbreeding
>>221314440Punctured lung, no gas left in the tank
>>221314440rope that thick doesn't burn as quick as one would imagine. then again it's dragonfire that supposedly melts stone, so perhaps it could've worked.damn i thought i was gonna dunk on your post but realized halfway that your question still stands
>>221314440Writers told it it had to die
>>221314461>rope that thick doesn't burn as quick as one would imagineSeemed to work a treat on those ships that went up like kindling despite being dense and soaking wet
Dragons are weak as fuck now. One bolt is enough to make them gasp for dear life as they plummet into the ocean.
>>221310840dragonfire was explosive mini-nuke tier breath in GoTwidlfire was explosive what-the-fuckerie C4Now its, whatever in HotDDragons are weak-strong just whatever, no consistency. just produce media and shove it right in.
>>221314489It was a bolt to the eye or a grapnel in the books
>>221314501daerhT weN
>>221314489>Dragons are weakDragons -> Wyverns (lesser dragons?) -> Chickens with flamethrowers is what we have nowmight as well use chocobos next season
>>221310967lol no
>>221314461dragonfire is supposedly the most powerful fire that exists, can melt rock and either melts or carbonizes everything except few substances if we assume its similar but vastly superior to wildfire.rope would disintegrate
>>221310840the graybeard leader is the braveheart scarred flail vengeance husband, did you recognize him?
>>221310840why did they no have hair dye for alicent?did they ran out of money, or are they just retards?
>Member of the Kingsguard locks up the queen so she doesn't hurt herself with her own stupidity because shes a fucking woman so of course she wouldbased
>>221314142>Elric of Melnibone was already Communist propaganda. You can't really desecrate it, only upgrade it.you can inverse it thus make it proper
>>221310840It takes way too long for new seasons to come out. I tend to forget what the fuck is happening and my enthusiasm wanes.I don’t even know if I watched s03 or not. If it came out recently, then no.
>>221314634Unless the Triarchy knew they'd be facing dragons and made their anti-dragon ropes fireproof
>>221314832Yesterday
>>221314879>anti-dragon ropes fireproofhow about they also made their entire ships and underpants dragonfire proof as well? or did the underpants gnomes stole those?
>>221314489there's a difference between a 16 year old dragon and the older monsters that you couldn't pull that shit on, for example in the book there's an even smaller dragon that gets killed with crossbows
>>221314976>there's a difference between a 16 year old dragon and the older monstersthey would not be used then nomatter what.we also have dragonriders with no armor, helmet, eye protection, that can die from arrows or from random seagulls crashing into them during flight.the series is pityful. its as if they are going to some dinner party.
>>221315009In the book it was part of why Rhaenyra and Daemon wanted to try alliances and diplomacy before a dragon war since they'd have to risk their children with their smaller dragons. By the time this battle happened Jace didn't really have a choice about fighting, it's not spelled out but since Rhaenyra coun't fight and Baela's dragon was even smaller (Baela didn't fight in the book) it made sense Jace would have to be there to lead the dragonseeds (who did fight in the book, on their much larger and older dragons so they were safe) instead of sending them off on their own.
>>221314797Elric murdering his own people is part of the main plot, I don't think you can fix it.
why not put a ballista on every single ship the dragons would have no chance then
>>221315066>it made sense Jace would have to be there to lead the dragonseeds (who did fight in the book, on their much larger and older dragons so they were safeyes in written material things make more sense usually, but in the tv shows it become a drunken version of things, a delirium or what-the-fuck lets make everything stupid.
>>221315083>I don't think you can fix ityou can, it just takes a bit of focus
>>221315108they literally did retard
>>221315108>ballistathese weapons would be so inaccurate (they would never hit, let alone score a deadly strike) when applied to flying moving targets despite their size that using them would be rather pointless and just a theatrical move for morale. the siege weapons would be burnt, their crews would be be burnt, they would have struck nothing, the crews would run like hell and abandon posts when they were ordered to target dragons as they knew they could never hit them, they would run on land or jump shipthis would have the effect of destroying the army morale even more as their only counters would be proven useless and fake.
>>221315180yeah if the dragon stood still i can see it but not moving
>>221315108>>221315225even the GoT ballista piercing the carriage-sized dragon skull is very bad. Dragonbone of a fully adult dragon and of that size would be tough as steel.these make the the it took a few dragons to conquer westeros seem like.... bullshit as they are shown to be too vulnerable and not really that powerful. ok make 100 siege ballista and variants, keep them far apart relatively, and just open fire.... you would kill any number of dragons according to GoT and hotd as they present it
>>221313087>Hightower familyseems they are or were valyrians "in secret" that practiced blood magic and just moved to westeros more incognito.
>>221315272The Andals were backwards tree worshippers, they didn't invent siege weapons until after the Targs had secured the Realm
>>221315366it took the rhoynar an army of 500,000 and water magic etc to kill a few dragons and drone managed to do it by winning the lottery.
Ep 1 left such a bad taste in my mouth I immediately did a Dunk and Egg palette cleanse.
>>221310840the best defense against a dragon would be a weighted netting projectile, over water
>>221315272aegon i's dragons were much biggerdany's are young but grown free and born through weird magic, it's unclear where they rank
>>221315108>>221315225>>221315272>>221315448it's simple to understand:- in the books dragons are consistently OP- in the shows dragons are consistently badly written
>>221315601>>221315407redpill me on rhoynar and water magic against dragons
>>221315601dragons died in the books too, literally vermax died randomly getting harpooned and stormcloud was tiny and died to crossbows
>>221315616The river is magical and the Rhoynar could control its water. By the end of the war all the men were dead, the river turned infectious and the women and children fleeing in a refugee caravan of hundreds of thousands. They put up enough of a fight against the dragon freaks that they had to bring out all the big guns, so draw your own conclusions.
>>221315407It has been a while since I read The World of Ice and Fire, but I remember thinking that Grrm was obviously having trouble imagining how warfare with or against dragons could work in practice. With the Rhoynish Wars for example dragons inexplicably only enter the fighting quite late, and are then countered by very flashy water magic that seems out of place for how this world otherwise looks. In the other dragon wars (Aegon's Conquest, Dorne, Dance) he also has to repeatedly asspull ways to disable the dragons. For example, during the early conquest they can't use dragons against the Durrandons because a strong rainstorm keeps them grounded.I don't actually belive that dragons would single-handedly decide warfare and guarantee instant win. For modern irl wars there's a lot of interesting research about how the myth of air power is overstated, that strategic bombing doesn't decide anything either economically or in terms or morale, and that it's still the rifleman on the ground who's the only one that can actually hold and control territory. Having dragons would allow you to delet big fixed targets like castles, settlemets and field armies, but they wouldn't guarantee gaining political control. Something that Grrm himself is hinting at with the dornish wars.Perhaps realistically a Valyrian or Targaryen army would mostly consist of mounted infantry that rides with the dragon lords and then occupies the territories that were cowed into submission by dragonfire.
>>221315712Not all men were dead, a significant number of them must have survived, otherwise Nymeria's alliance/marriage to Martell would've been worthless to him.
Spent their entire CGI budget on the first episode, enjoy yo no dragon show until the finale
>>221315735>dragons would single-handedly decide warfare and guarantee instant win.its not exactly like modern air power, magnified in medieval/ancient settings1)medieval pitched battle in a field2)naval combat with tens or hundreds of wooden warships3)castle and/or fortified city siegesmorale would collapse in land and sea, behind fortifications or not, even if it did not and the men were ready to die such deaths en masse the effect of losing lines and groups of yoru cavalry or infantry would make any tactics inapplicable and being flanked would seem an incovenience when compared to having a flying monster just burn large numbers of your troops.the pitched battles in field would be lost, ships would burn, castle and fortified cities would be seen as death traps and more of a problem than a defensive structure
>>221315760>For some two and a half centuries, the Rhoynish Wars were fought between the Valyrians and the Rhoynar. In the last of the these, Garin the Great, Prince of Chroyane, led two hundred and fifty thousand Rhoynar to their deaths in battle against the Valyrians. >Nymeria, Princess of Ny Sar, led the surviving Rhoynar, mostly women and children, in fleeing Essos in ten thousand ships.
I don't get why so many fans want someone else to finish ASOIAF if/when Gurmm dies. It' fine if in the future new authors create new stories in the same universe but when it comes to the main book series, I want to read Martin's own words, thoughts, ideias and autism on the characters and world he created, it would be otherwise meaningless to me.
>>221315735>dornish wars.they realized that pitched battles and anything static would be suicidal and pointless and just used hit and run and "i am not there or anywhere in particular for that matter" tactics.
>>221315820Sorry, yeah that's exactly what I meant. Field battles and sieging would become obsolete against dragons. But there would still be a need for dragon lords to employ a large number of regular soldiers for occupation and lower level warfare (counterinsurgency). Dragons don't help much if Hereward The Wake and his merry men camp out in the swamps from where they ambush your settlers and taxmen.https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Hereward_the_Wake
>>221315735they give reconnaissance capacities that only warging with birds can give, so they can decide victory even when not engaging in combat
