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yo they actually killed the chad son on the first episode lmao
>>221314501IMPORTANT QUESTIONIf dragons are so easy to kill with ballistas or the anchor that drowned it in the last episode how did Aeogn conquer the whole fucking continent with only 3? They should have been dead by the 2nd battle from what we have seen in the shows. You can;t have it both ways. You can't laud them as amazing weapons that conquer everyone and fighting is pointless and then show them die in ways that are easy to replicate in the thousands. Norf FC would have had time to build hundreds of ballistas for their armies and wrecked the dragons.
>>221314552The writers don't care, they're more focused on setting up their Rhaenyra/Alicent ship
>>221314501hottest woman on all of GoT
>>221314501.etelpmoc sisylanA
>>221314576I believe you are forgetting about Ros
>>221314552Because during the time of Aegon, nobody had invented Scorpions (not Balistas) yet, presumably. Also Aegon and his sisters dragons were way bigger that all the dragons we see get oneshot by bolts.
>>221314600>nobody had invented Scorpions (not Balistas)LOL, you can't seriously make that claim with a straight face
>>221314599i find it hard to believe nobody wanted to wife up ros
>>221314551guess the contract got too expensive
>>221314645Some of those sluts are super hot. Howcome they aren't the personal toys of some lord instead of common whores? Less work and higher reward for them.
>>221314501Where's the previous thread, drater?
>>221314637Westeros has been in medieval stasis for like 4000 years according to George so anything is possible.
How would Aegon the Conqueror fare if the Westerosi had MIM-104 Patriot interceptor surface-to-air missile (SAM) system
It is beyond comedy how this show's attempt to add a feminist slant to the narrative only succeeds at making the female characters seem more stupid and delusional.I think evil stepmother Alicent would've been far more compelling to the audience because at least she'd be defiant and she'd fight for her family. As she currently is, Alicent is a mentally ill, emotionally incontinent nutcase who'd kill all her sons just to have a tea party with Rhaenyra.Whereas Rhaenyra, in the writers' attempts to make excuses for her mistakes, has been turned into an undecisive delusional weakling instead of the ambitious court lady she's supposed to be.
>>221314551whomst're we talking about?
>>221314717AA is a scam
>>221314731Lanister
>Rhaenyra acting all giddy to take Kings Landing and not even hearing anyone out that it might be a trapCan it be considered character assassination when she was already a shit character?
>>221314731Jason Lannister
>>221314552we've answered this question many times.Aegon The Conquerer had 3 VERY BIG DRAGONS about a century old a piece.Jace and Baela had very small dragons. barely rideable.consult the chart
>>221314552Jace's dragon is literally very small, the ballista wouldn't work on something like Vhagar
>>221312530>Would Alicent let Aemomd fuck her like he let her kiss herI wish they showed us a hardcore sex scene with Alicent
>>221314787Silverwing a cute
>>221314787so why aren't the greens using vhagar to just murder the riders who only have bitch ass dragons one by one?
>>221314723but that was their goal from the beginning?punk rock freedom beating Women For Trump. Alicent literally spelled it out for is season 2 episode 8 when she snuck to meet Rhaenyra>Sapochnik recalls. “‘If you really focused in on the patriarchy’s perception of women, and the fact that they’d rather destroy themselves than see a woman on the throne.’ That wasn’t a perspective I have ever told before. I think it made this show feel more contemporary too.”>“We said, ‘What if Alicent is like “Women for Trump,” and Rhaenyra’s like punk rock?’” Anarchy in Westeros? Count us in.https://www.empireonline.com/tv/news/house-of-the-dragon-is-about-the-patriarchys-perception-of-women-exclusive-image/>The “House of the Dragon” actress, who took over the role of Alicent Hightower from Emily Carey due to a series time jump, revealed that co-showrunners Miguel Sapochnik and Ryan Condal advised her to find inspiration from the disgraced former president. The series creators told Cooke to view the character Queen Alicent like a “woman for Trump.”https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/house-of-the-dragon-olivia-cooke-trump-1234766026/>>221314761no. it can be considered men wanting war and women looking for a way to avoid it>>221314600spoiler: Meraxes dies to a scorpion to the eye by the Dornish during Aegon's conquest. only the eyes of an old dragon are vulnerable
Cute and canon!
>>221314811wow haelena is such a traitor for not using dreamfyre, it would be a game changer
All hail Aegon the DRAGONCOCK!
>>221314811Another retard list that gets Meraxes' size wrong
>>221314866small dragons are nimble and the rider is vulnerable. Aemond would die if he fought several smaller dragons simultaneously.Luke died because it was a storm so his dragon was struggling against the wind and rain while Vhagar was shrugging them off.
Like nipples on a breastplate
>>221314906No, you're the retard. The chart shows dragons as they are during HOTD, and by that time Vhagar has grown larger than Meraxes was.Literally even GRRM gets this shit wrong kek
Why is Alicent trying to get all her children killed.
>>221314923Meraxes didn't even live to be 100. There's no fucking way she's larger than Vermithor or Dreamfyre.
open the fucking door
>>221314937her kids are cunts and she knows it
aaagghgh…
>>221314645>i find it hard to believe nobody wanted to wife up rosYour mistake is thinking she'd want to be tied up to a man. Just like in the modern hypersexualized world where women get simps lining up for them, Ros is a high quality hole, so its more profitable to keep milking men off their money until she grows old enough and finally settles down with a rich beta.>>221314683Westeros has higher quality women than our world it seems. I for one want a Hightower bitch
>>221314959Rod Report?
>>221314941Hodor
Would you take your new dragon you can barely control to fly straight take into battle you stumbled upon not even knowing who fights whom?
>>221314959he sounds a bit angry at aemond if he was talking about him... why is he like this bros
reminder Blacks won and Alicent's line does not exist in the future
>>221314937only her older male kids that she pushed to fight Rhaenyra. men are toxic and must be culled.
>>221314959why the FUCK would they spoil this int he trailer
>>221314993why are future targaryens white haired then
>>221315007is it really a spoiler that sunfyre meets up with aegon?
>>221314993lmao neither does rhaenyra's line.
>>221314993bwo, your Aemond's kid by Alys?
>>221314993A shame, I really do like the Greens. Also Alicent makes my pp hard
>>221315031yes, he died.
>>221315022wat>>221315039yes it does :^)>>221315050>Later in 133 AC, Queen Jaehaera reportedly threw herself from her window in Maegor's Holdfast, and died on the spikes of the dry moat below. Her death ended the line of King Aegon II and Queen Helaena, as well as the line of King Viserys I Targaryen and Queen Alicent Hightower.
HAVE YOU NOT BETRAYED YOUR QUEEN
HBO is using bots to prop up the imdb rating. pic related is rating for E2 which hasn't even aired yet
>>221315055green sup;porters are mentally ill and supporting a criminal
>>221315063that's what the maester believed
>>221315063>yes it does :^)no it doesn't retard. by that logic even alicent's line exist because aegon and aemond had bastards
>>221315071first 4 eps were given to reviewers
>>221315071meanwhile very organic E1 ratings
>>221314552Those were much older, larger, tougher dragons. Jace and Baela's are practically babies. What's dumb is that in the show Rhaenyra is supposed to be capable of fighting and Syrax is bigger so they invent this shit about Jace locking her up instead of Jace having to fight because Rhaenyra isn't.
>>221314993only because the fat nerd killed her last grandkid for no reason. i guess the two sides uniting at the end in marriage would have been too wholesome and fantasy-like for him. it was petty
>>221315088Based retard>Yes, every future Targaryen king and known descendant (including Daenerys and Jon Snow) is directly descended from Rhaenyra Targaryen. While Rhaenyra’s half-brother Aegon II ultimately won the historical claim to the throne, his direct bloodline went extinct. The royal line continued through Rhaenyra’s surviving sons with Daemon Targaryen
>>221315088>aemond had bastardsfuck you. he wed her by the heart tree
>>221315126targ line is over little bro.
>>221314866they can 2 (or more) v 1 him and all it takes is one small fast dragon killing aemond himselfand then the reason they're not throwing all the dragons against vhagar is that vhagar would still kill a few and when most of your dragons' riders are you and your own kids that's not a risk you want to take
>>221315133Jon Snu lives
>>221315133Jun Snu is alive
>>221315133the targ line ends with a black haired retard lmao
>charlie kirk specialhow did they allow this into the actual show?
>>221315165the deliberately made it that way
>>221315117tough shit, it was also petty to keep rhaenyra off the kings list on a technicality and because dany has to canonically potentially be the firstthis way it evens out
If only Viserys wasn't a fuckup and followed Otto's instructions. If Rhaenyra mated with Aegon, all problems would be solved.>>221315080>green sup;porters are mentally illYES>and supporting a criminalBASED
>>221315126>unironically trusting the AI
>>221315183I trust the AI more than I would trust a *spits* Greens supporter
This ugly fuck tried his hardest to save the episode and I salute him for it.We're finally getting ugly bastard representation in mainstream media.
>>221315022because they're descended from her kids with daemonmind you if jace luke or joffrey survived they'd likely still have those silver hair genes around just not expressed
>>221315163I DUN WAN IT!!! what a pathetic pussy suckling simp
>>221315193I'd rather be Green than a...may the Seven forgive me for saying it...Blackwood *spits*
>>221315126>AIblehfor the show onlies this is actually true though
>>221315177his wife would've been old af then. doesn't that just make more problems in the long run (inability to produce enough airs)? or was that what otto was aiming for, then he could've married helaena to aegon and get rid of rhaenyra
>>221315165thats a big ass bolt
>>221315234>airs
>>221315255sorry my eurofagness was showing kek
>>221315212>SHEEPSTEALER GO TO KINGS LANDING BAY, FORMERLY BLACKWATER'S>SHEEPSTEALER NOOOO LISTEN TO ME NOOOO STOP KILLING MY PEOPLE NOOOO>SHEEPSTEALER THATS MY SISTER, AHHH SHEEPSTEALER AAHHHH DONT KILL MY SISTER>SHEEPSTEALER NOOOOO YOU GOT MY BROTHER IN LAW KILLED NOOOOOOOO SHEEPSTEAAAAAALLLEEEER!!!
>>221315234The main problem was that they had too many heirs and they were all plotting against each other. Otto wanted to streamline the royal line by having less heirs all focused on Rhaenyra and Aegon so the split would disappear with time and with no bloodshed.And as you mention, worst case scenario he gets rid of Rhaenyra later when Viserys is dead. But no, that idiot Viserys instead opted to get their dragons and the Targs extinct.
>s3 peaked with the first episode and it will be a continual downfall until maybe the finaleHow are we coping with this
>>221315155>>221315148>>221315163jon was never legitimized. he was a bastard. so yeah the targ bloodline is effectively over
bro what is this
>>221315265Why couldn't we just get Nettles?
>>221315275but muh wedding annulmenti'm actually curious how that would have went in the books because clearly it was going that direction of his claim being serious and a threat to dany but the specifics are more complicated
>>221315275Rhaegar married Lyanna for all we know and Targaryens are ok with polygamy
>>221315283I think they just wanted to give Rhaena something to do and not introduce more characters.
>>221315290Rhaegar pulled a Maegor and married a second wife in traditional and vibrant Valyrian polygamy, FotS chuds are just bigots
>>221315275>the last grasp of the greencelskek
>>221315283Because Ryan Condall is a fucking retard. https://winteriscoming.net/house-of-the-dragon-showrunner-explains-nettles-storyline-rhaena-targaryen
>>221315254It looks like it would be extremely painful
>>221315301yeah but only the sister marriage thing got enshrined as legal so it's not clear if people would accept thismaybe the point is that while his claim is in doubt people just like him more than dany so that's part of why she gets more paranoid
>>221315273By not watching it. I just come here to discuss the superior source material
>>221315283>“It just felt to us that because again, this story is told in point of view, that it felt more apt as this is a family story to where we had the opportunity to involve one of the family members in the storyline. And because Rhaena has been set up since Season 1 as the member of this family who doesn't have a dragon and basically her sole identity is the Targaryen kid who doesn't have a dragon, it felt like that was a character that we had already set this long runway for that it could be very satisfying for the TV audience that didn't have an experience with the book at all to see that character claim a dragon and then in a very, I think, Game of Thrones and Westerosian kind of way, to reap the consequences of having her wish come true.”
>>221315212sheepstealer doesnt like bastards
>>221315310>>the last grasp of the greencelsgraps what nigga. 5 Aegons have been king. The usurper's name is shunned through out history. Targs are finished as a bloodline while hightowers are still chilling.
>>221315273Already expected this, I'm resigned to hatewatching it until the end because I can't help myself. At least the bandaid got ripped off with Jace's death, all the other deaths are going to hurt less.
>Rhaenyra>Alicent>Baela>Rhaena>Helaena>Sharako LoharThis show is so extremely female-centric. I've had enough of this woke DEI shit. I'm out.
>>221315322Petty sure that element isn't going to be via Jon, it'll be with Faegon (who has a better claim even if he's a Blackfyre)
>heart and spirit of a kingwhat has she done that demonstrates this?
>>221315335Fun fact: in the book Jace came up with the idea of recruiting dragonseeds out of Dragonstone randos and Nettles & Sheepstealer were completely loyal while he was alive.
>>221315316>We blackwashed an entire house for you, why are you complaining that we cut the only canonically black characterKek
>>221315349that will definitely happen but i think jon's claim will definitely be a thing too because come on, r+l=j was the plan from the start it can't not be relevant at the end
>>221315352>what has she done that demonstrates this?What would you have her do?
>>221315283>Ira Parker cut the "a knight who remembers his vows" line>Ryan Condel cut NettlesI have to wonder if these guys even read the source material at all. Nettles is especially egregious as shes easily one of the most important characters in The Dance.
>it just never stopsryan condal needs to be raped, castrated and deported... for tyland
>>221314993>He dosent know the Aegon Whent to House Stark pipeline theoryIt took 170 years, but in the end a descendant of Alicent Indeed took the Throne. Greeks played and won the long game
>>221315377is he even clearly dead? i thought he was just thrown overboard
>>221314708Literally engagement bait btw, cynically planned and shoehorned in by Marketing because they know it would lead to a ton of social media """"discourse"""" on misogyny
>>221315352Charles should sue Condall and Hess for defamation of character, how dare they compare this indecisive retard to Queen Bess the Based
>>221315352Literally nothing. Sara Hess remembered the Tilsbury speech to the troops by Queen Elizabeth and thought, "erm... what if she said APPEAR instead of 'know i have'.... HMMMM yes how very punk rock mhm mhm" and then she scissored her lesbian wife or whatever and flicked her bean at how intelligent she was coming up with that.
>>221315377Wasnt also he supposed to survive the whole war and actually became best pal with Aegon III? Truly a shitty fanfiction
>>221315391I'd say yes because he was in armor, but somehow Jamie managed to survive that so anything is possible I guess.
Ormund's and Corlys' armour is awesome, why does Daemon's look like cheap plastic?
>>221315415Why do so many retards (including GRRM) think if you're wearing armour you instantly die on contact with the water like this is a Mario game?We have tests proving a fit person who's gotten used to the weight of plate armour can swim in it as well as they can do other physical activity that (((pop culture))) claims is impossible (like mounting a horse or cartwheels)
>>221315352>appearSo she doesn't actually have a woman's body?
>>221315377>>221315391>>221315415Leaks say he survives and is captured/tortured
just rewatched the first episode of S3 again
>>221315447Yes. She is brave MtF.
>>221315283Because you'd just bitch about another black girl being cast and them just trying to lean into the "Daemon is toxic" angle by making his relationship with her ambiguous like the fatman did in his shitty "history." Just be happy it seems they're setting up the relationship to be totally paternal and Rhaenyra's eventual breakdown will make her look like even more of a loon.
>>221315348pone of those is not like the others
>>221315447Nonbinaries do be thinkin like that fr
GO SHEEPSTEALER TO HELP
>>221315377People that think Tyland is dead are legitimate 0 IQ retards, the rest of his point still stands.
>>221315457>another black girl being castno one was chimping out about blacks in essos during GoT
>blacks have dragon called 'Sheepstealer'>Aegon wants to give sheep back to the peopleYup, he is my king.
>>221315489Shut the fuck up.
I hope that at least daemon and rhaena will fuck. a little homage to nettles. that niggers wig is so fucking ugly with her bug eyes only thing that will even make me care about daemons niglet children is if he shows off their androgynous boney ass bodies and fucks their ass till it bleeds dragons blood. daemon fucked his mother, or dreamnt of it atleast which is foreshadowing him fucking rhaena or atleast force breeding her before episode 8
>>221314501Who is this from the last thread? Does she do BJs?
THEY ARE NOT THE ENEMY
Wouldn't the mongrel Triarchy host be the perfect opportunity to inject some much-needed diversity? I don't think I saw a single black sailor among them. Really makes you think.
>>221315512
THATS MY SISTER
>>221315500literally all dragons eat sheep, why do you think that guy came crying about it to aegon?
>>221315569actually i forgot, grey ghost only ate fish and never bothered anybody and then sunfyre killed him :(
>>221315569Some dragons prefer other food.
>>221315552AYO
>Ryan is a Blackfyre supporterBased
>>221315163grim
>>221315348Same. Good thing I stopped watching this shit since s1 showed me it'd be woke DEI.Man we had it so good back in GoT and never realized it.
>>221315377my feed is fillied with posts like these since the season aired, bunch of normie fan accounts
>>221315348Fuck you Haelena is cool
>>221315283Because it's not just Rhaenyra that they are bending over backwards to make as bland and uncontroversial as possible, it's Daemon too (after season 1).They shamelessly do anything in their power to make people, fangirls especially, only root for the blacks. They already tied Daemon down to the cuck chair, only making him care about his faggy dreams and his wife's sons. Suddenly having him betray the yesss qween with a loli tomboy wouldn't be well received by the only audience they care about.
>>221314645Uh. Theon?
>>221315737they've treated daemon like shit last season
>>221314550>>221315348Watched the weeks ahead trailer, most of it looks fucking stupid. I just hope Ormund gets something to do, I expect him to be the fan-favourite of the season.
This war can still be prevented
>>221315812how nigga? how?
This show mildly amuses me, should I read the books?
>>221315812if only they signed the MOU
>Aegon's only supporter is LarysAnd he's supposed to win the Dance?
>>221315348most of them die brutal deaths so...
>>221315838I mean Fire & Blood which I assume this is based on
>>221315847It’s extremely kino (in the books)
>>221315838The book (actually part of Fire & Blood) is much better, warning it's written like a history book with multiple conflicting sources so depends if you're ok with that framing.
>>221315812WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE ME DO
>>221315812just apologize and realise that being friends matters more then who sits on the throneviserys literally said it
>>221315847At this rate I'm not certain Condall and Hess will stick to that canon
>>221315847No, he loses too, he just "wins" temporarily and then dies and one of Rhaenyra's sons gets crowned.
>>221315856In the book at least Aemond, Alicent and the Hightower army still supported himHere his only allies are his cripple friend and his cripple dragon
>>221315569Caraxes prefers pigs
>>221315887>Here his only allies are his cripple friend and his cripple dragonDo you need more?
>>221315839>Tomorrow will be Storm's End Day and Twins Day, all wrapped up in one, in the Seven Kingdoms. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Gullet, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in the Seven Hells - JUST WATCH! Praise be to R'hllor. King AEGON II TARGARYEN
>>221315812mayhaps
>>221315887To be fair Sunfyre is very resilient and Larys is one of the few actually smart characters left, holy fuck was Aegon dumb to blow their cover like that.
>>221315888Just like his rider.
>>221315766Yeah but not nearly enough to make fangirls stop stanning him and Rhaenyra.
>>221315871His character arc is already ruined, because Aegon the Younger is a toddler, he doesn’t really care for his family, let alone the throne. Alicent is 100% going to be the one to instigate his poisoning as well.
>>221315886Aegon and Viserys watching cocomelon in Pentos while their family is getting killed
>>221315871They will have Aegon shit and piss himself while Rhaenyra closes her eyes and has a vision of how the prophecy of Jon Snow will come to save the world, so she dies with a smile. Then everyone mocks Aegon for failing to kill Rhaenyra too and there are fart noises.
>>221315887No his restoration is a solo thing, he takes Dragonstone through cunning and then lucks out when Rhaenyra flees there without knowing the situation
>>221315910>>221315919I'm betting the whole Laenor thing was to set up them faking Rhaenyra's death so she and Alicent can run away to Yi-Ti together
>>221315912little Aegon escaped on his dying baby dragon and later was with Rhaenyra and watched her get burned and eaten in front of him, it scarred him for life
>>221315919Rhaenyra supposedly gets her period on the Iron throne so I dunno
>>221315929>little Aegon escaped on his dying baby dragonAnon...I...
>>221315929Not in the show, which means what the fuck is show Aegon III like if he isn’t traumatised by the Dance? Maybe they’ll replace him with Joffrey? Oh
>>221315928nah she'll be the one making sunfyre burn her to prove some kind of point, it's why we've had all the ridiculous shit about dying in dragonfire being a dragonrider's death
>>221315929Not in the show. Doubt theyll even have him witness Rhaenyra's death. They seem to have been written off the show
>>221315941he'll be irrelevant as anything but a plot device so rhaenyra's line wins, alicent will probably adopt him or something and it will be disgusting
>Non-traumatised Aegon III>Rhaenyra taxing the nobility>Alicent actively trying to murder her familyMan
>>221315910>Alicent is 100% going to be the one to instigate his poisoning as well.I don't think I could hate her more than I do right now, but this would be it, surely.
>>221315907condal and hess hate it too, they want people to ship rhaenicent but most of the audience hates it
who are the good guys in this show?
>>221315967At least we get some doomcore cole and hopecore gwayne from time to time.
>>221315976Ironically people would ship rhaenicent if they had kept Alicent as she was in the book
>>221315910>Alicent is 100% going to be the one to instigate his poisoning as well.Aegon II's? Probably, she really hated him from the start lol
>>221315942Basically this. She'll probably take control of Sunfyre from Aegon, breaking all canon as she burns herself to death. Hell they'll probably throw in some callbacks to Daenerys self immolation and how "empowering" such a moment is.Oh man to think we could've had it so good but we didn't even get fat Rhaenyra
>>221315985No one they're all horrible people.
>>221315985
I don't get why so many fans want someone else to finish ASOIAF if/when Gurmm dies. It' fine if in the future new authors create new stories in the same universe but when it comes to the main book series, I want to read Martin's own words, thoughts, ideias and autism on the characters and world he created, it would be otherwise meaningless to me.
Best part is Stormcloud does exist in the show. How the fuck is he gonna die lol?
>>221314937>Why is Alicent trying to get all her children killed.With kids like her's, wouldn't you be?
>>221315993yeah they'll use the part where sunfyre isn't interested in attacking rhaenyra until they keep goading him
>>221315985Otto, Daeron, the Hightowers, and the Maesters
>>221316001I'd only be ok with it if he left them detailed notes and it was just a matter of finishing it properly.
>>221315985aemond, he did nothing wrong
Season 3 isn't the final season, is it?How many seasons will there be?
>>221316001There isn't a fantasy author alive who could satisfyingly finish Martin's books. GRRM is in a class of his own
>>221316031One more.
>>221315985Jace and Baela would have made the best king/queen
>>221316001hes fat, old and lazy, hes obviously not going to finish it. and that means the official ending will be the show ending if others dont finish his work
>>221316023>t. Benjamin Netanyahu
>>221316031No there's a 4th and final season planned.
>>221315899>Open the Gullet, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in the Seven Hells - JUST WATCH! Praise be to R'hllor.
>>221316046the parts people hated the most were based on what he told d&d so that's already the case
>>221315910They’re going to replace Aegon the Younger with Alicent and focus on her reaction
>>221315985There’s only one actually good person in the main cast.
So is House of le Dragon out or what. I suppose I should watch it.
>>221316096yes but it's shit
>there are people in this very thread who think aegon didn't kneel because he """would rather die than kneel"""you're not allowed to have any opinions on any shows or movies
>>221316082Oh man how I wanna hate-fuck Rhaenyra. I wish Aegon got to do that.>>221316096Nah don't waste your time, its shit. Better read the superior source material "Fire & Blood"
>>221315985Aegon
>>221316126why didn't he then, it was an easy way to get out of the city and plan something
>>221316126He quite literally told the guard to fuck himself and spit
>>221315177green are right, Aegon was the firstborn male son of the previous king, doesn't matter if Visi wanted Nyra to be the heir
>>221316141i really shouldn't have to tell you if you watched the show
>>221316152spill your shitty theory then
>>221316152>i really shouldn't have to tell youOkay but do tellEducate us media illiterates.
>>221315847everyone else dies >>221315886he still gets to be king for about a year
>>221315985Honestly, Aegon essentially the sole "good" guy in the whole show. >Didn't want to be King, pushed to it by his mother>When he finally embraces being King, it is actually shown that he could have the makings of a good King if tutored in to it. He is shown a bit naive towards things but shows an initiative to help the common folk>His military strategy would have actually won the war. Essentially having Vhagar destroy the blockade as soon as it went up (Intel had Daemon in the Riverlands, only with Rhaenys to defend against a surprise attack would have been fatal to the Blacks before they recruited the dragon riders)>Vilified by everyone when he was in the right in all cases. Ratcatchers, military strategy, legitimacy, etc. >Is the one that ultimately wins in the endBut he raped a girl so that makes everything he does or will ever do a mute point
>>221315352guarantee Sarah Hess googled "best historical female ruler quotes" saw Elizabeth I's speech and soifaced and immediately put that shit in the script
>>221316195they don't though, two of rhaenyra's kids survive and rulerhaenyra also ruled for like half a year
>>221315919Aegon completely loses it and he's willing to burn down the whole realm, until Rhaenyra willingly lets herself be captured in exchange for the safety of the people and her sons.Things seem to go well for Aegon, but then Sunfyre bows down to Rhaenyra and recognize her as the one true queen, refusing his orders. Aegon shits himself and has his soldiers needle him until he snaps and eventually kills Rhaenyra. Aegon orders everyone to only tell an embellished version of the events.
>>221316196>His military strategy would have actually won the war. Essentially having Vhagar destroy the blockade as soon as it went upNigga whatMeleys was still alive, if Syrax also came, or even worse, Caraxes, it was fucking joeverAemond did the right thing by setting up an ambush and hiring the triarchy to let them take the casualties to stop the blockade.
>>221315919You'd think the prophecy shit would be a non starter if they ever got a vision of how it ends in house Targaryen dying forever.
>>221316178>>221316181because he wants to die. he's too much of a pussy to do it himself or be imprisoned first so a sword through the neck in the middle of nowhere is perfect for him. he repeatedly calls himself pathetic, tries to offer the throne to his brother, says that rhaenyra should have been queen etc. etc.>"It is best to live, I think, however you do it.">"Is it? My dragon is dead. I am burnt, and disgusting, and alone. And I am a cripple."the fact that you could even think "OHH AEGON WON'T KNEEL HE'S SO BASED!! SUGOI!!!" is baffling
>>221316196No, he’s straight up retarded in the show. He doesn’t care about anything. The actor is good and is doing his best.
>>221316221>they don't thoughevery other adult targ is dead. Only Baela was left but decided to do nothing>rhaenyra also ruled for like half a yearwhile Aegon was still alive and the war was still going, not really ''ruled''
>>221316196>Is the one that ultimately wins in the endHe's poisoned by his own allies, extinguishing his line>he raped a girlHe was a drunkard and a rapist. He did not give two shits about ruling (Jaeharys at the small council scene), instead preferring to drink and fuck with his lickspittles.
>>221316248it's not that he's based it's literally he's made to choose between dying and kneeling and picks the former, this feels like semanticslike sure there's some suicidal thoughts there but also i think he's sticking to his pride because it's kind of all he has left even if he's not really feeling itif he just wanted to die in any way he could have stayed in king's landing, he went with larys because he sees a bit of hope there toomaybe this is too nuanced for you?
>>221316248>because he wants to dieSo, you could say that he would rather die than kneelBut you're also wrong, he's clearly clinging to life>tries to offer the throne to his brother, says that rhaenyra should have been queen etc. etcThat was season one dumbass. In season 2 he liked being king, and started hating the people who work against him.
>>221315348that's a cool armor desuwe're hatewatching
>>221316266>every other adult targ is deadhow is this relevant? they grow up you know
He comes....
>>221316244>Caraxes was stuck in the Riverlands while Daemon was tripping on shitHe wasn't going to make it in time or do you reckon a raven could make it to the Riverlands and then have Daemon fly over to the blockade in less than an hour? >Rhaenyra going with Syrax to defend anythingOh yeah, let's just put the Queen on a dragon and have her risk herself with no military experience or actual combat experience with dragongsIt was only Meleys, Vhagar could have done a hit and run attacking the whole blockade and head back to King's Landing no issue whatsoever. I do recognize however that these shows have teleportation so I have no doubt that Caraxes would have shown up in minutes of Vhagar attacking the blockade, and Meleys in seconds through instant transmission messaging.
>>221316285the quote i put in there is from season 2. here's another one from season 3:>"I am the king of nothing. I am pathetic.">you could saY hE'D rAtHEr diE tHaN kNEElhe'd rather die than do anything else, retard.>>221316280did you not read the part where i said he doesn't want to "just die in any way"
>>221316196He truly had the universe against him. He could have been an amazing king.Also him being right about military, strategy and ratcatchers reminds me of Joffrey who no one took seriously despite him having good points.>>221316247Yeah but Condall will only show the parts they are interested in, the feminist ones.
>>221316300nta but Aegon the Younger became the Green heir through being the son of Daemon
>>221316329wrong, it was suggested to aegon ii to make him heir to appease corlys and then renege on it but he didn't even do that before he diedno one cared about it regardless, he was made king because he was the black claimant so when team black won they put him on the throne, literally nowhere in the book is there ever anything about anyone calling him the green heir or saying his claim is through daemon, on the contrary team black keeps fighting for rhaenyra even after she dies
>>221315985The Stags as always
>greens : incel pissbaby rapists with mommy issues >blacks: strong oppressed women who can do no wrong great show
>>221316329Aegon wanted to kill him
>>221316363The Blacks did not win, Rhaenyra is not recognised as a monarch. Aegon the Younger became king because he was Aegon II’s rightful heir. The Blacks did not sack King’s Landing and install Aegon the Younger there. It’s supposed to mirror The Anarchy.
>>221316327if he actually would rather have died he could have told those guys that rhaenyra wouldn't care about having him as a living hostage, he could have fought back, he could have acted more suspicious to begin with to goad them into ithe was sort of fine dying but he still had some shred of hope and there was the bitterness and wish for revenge, people can feel more than one emotion
>>221314645Nobody in Westeros wants to be the better man.
>>221315354The dragonseeds idea was completely idiotic, so that's not really a point for him
>>221316385Yeah, but he didn’t, I wonder why
>>221316415Because he's killed before he can do that lmao
>>221316327>"I am the king of nothing. I am pathetic.Yes, he's feeling down>he'd rather die than do anything else, retard.Clearly not, or he wouldn't escape with LarysBut he is escaping with Larys because he wants to live, he just won't sacrifice his last bit of pride for it.
>>221316328It's honestly odd seeing the scenes of Otto scolding him for doing something that book Otto wouldnt give a fuck about, Allicent all but telling him "just hurry up and die", Aemond just completely dismissing him and rather have Helaena ride a dragon instead. How they don't seem to take him seriously after he has assassins come in to his home to murder his son. In the show, he is the framework of the reluctant one who ends up being the best King. However, he is treated as absolute useless fucking dirt.
>>221316423He was literally his hostage for months
>>221316406puahahahaaha, and larys just sits quiet through that does he?>people can feel more than one emotioni'm sure he would slit rhaenyra's throat if he found her just sleeping somewhere, doesn't mean he wasn't looking for a quick way to die like when he didn't kneel, and isn't still actively looking for a quick way to die.
>>221316196>a mute pointmoot point, anon
>>221316397everyone acted like she'd been a queen at the time the dance ended, the rest is historical revisionism>Aegon the Younger became king because he was Aegon II’s rightful heir. absolutely wrong and often repeated green lie, this is not in the book in any kind of form>The Blacks did not sack King’s Landing and install Aegon the Younger there. the blacks were at the gates and entered as heroes after aegon ii got assassinated (or killed himself or whatever), literally no one ever said anything about making him king because he was aegon ii's heir which he wasn't even
>>221315528no mongrel roles are better suited for whitesnoble families are better black
>>221316431He literally wanted to execute him to end Rhaenyra's line. He still thought he could sire a child himself.
>>221316196The problem is they make him rape girls and abuse children off-screen. He's basically the devil whenever he's not on camera
>>221316412No, in the book it's the only thing that kept the Gullet from being a complete massacre, they were vital. Two of them stayed loyal (only driven away by Rhaenyra's paranoia and one of them still died saving the day later) and two only turned later after Jace died. Also recruiting in Dragonstone instead of KL was a much more reasonable idea and the situation was a lot more desperate as Rhaenyra and Baela couldn't fight at all.
Unironically if a master diplomat like Bismarck or Metternich showed up at the end of Season 2 is there anything that could have been done to force an early cessation of hostilities?
>>221316440I don’t think you’ve read the book >>221316453He had six months to execute him
>>221316318>with no military experience or actual combat experience with dragongsSo how exactly do you expect her to get military and combat experience without actually fighting?
>>221316431he really really wanted to kill him and end his sister's line but his supporters talked him into keeping him alive as a hostage (partly because they didnt' want to completely alienate corlys)
>>221316491i read the entire book which you clearly haven't, you copy fake arguments you've seen repeated here
I didn’t realize Jon was such a jealous little chud in the books.
>>221315391try swimming with just your clothes on, now do it with armor
>>221316491He was being kept as a hostage, the Blacks never stopped fighting after Rhaenyra's death. He was disgusted at the idea of wedding him to Jaehaera
>>221316489No, this is not a conflict of nation states but of family feuds
>>221316561it's a tv show, if a named character didn't clearly die on screen he's not dead yetcorlys also survived
>>221316525You have not read the book, you don’t even understand what the book is because you said “this is not in the book in any kind of form”. It’s an exercise where you read between the lines and make your own conclusions about what happened. He could’ve wanted to kill Aegon, maybe he wanted to make him a eunuch, perhaps send him to the Night’s Watch. But those were all probably threats to make the Black army back down. If he really wanted him gone, he had six months to do it. Aegon kept him around because he had no other heir. He did not seriously think he would have more children with a Baratheon wife being a crippled burn victim
Its a tragic missed opportunity to do a TV show about the dance of dragons and focus on Alicent and Rhaenyra while whitewashing them. The interesting characters are the men who have the warrior king spirit like Daemon, Aemond, Jace etc. Alient and Rhaenyra are not even likeable in the story and the writers have to be constantly bending over backwards retconning things to get people to sympathize with them. Its fucking crazy how they let someone make a show who says they want to take a "contemporary" point of view for the story.
>>221316590> He did not seriously think he would have more children with a Baratheon wife being a crippled burn victimHe was a delusional fucking drunkard what the fuck do you mean? He literally tried to brood dragon eggs himself in hopes he'd hatch another dragon.
>>221316268>He was a drunkard and a rapistSo was bobby b
>>221316590>if you ignore what's actually in the book anything can be true even if it's refuted by what's in the bookanon...
>>221316596daenerys was very popular with the normies they just want daenerys 2.0, wouldn't be surprised if this decision came from suits at hbo
>>221316619How is trying to hatch dragons crazy?
>>221316622People often say that Bobby B was a rapist because he had sex with Cersei against her will. However, a careful reading of the text reveals it to be a gross misinterpretation. First king Robert mentions that Cersei guards her pussy as if she had all Lannister gold there. He is aware she does not wish to sleep with him, that's why he patronizes prostitutes. The times he goes to her, are when he is very horny, there are no whores within arms' reach and most importantly, when he is very drunk. So drunk, he doesn't realise she is just jerking him off and has no recollection of the event in the morning. Obviously, a man in such a state cannot meaningfully consent to the sexual activity.Cersei raped king Robert.
>>221316632Read the book and perhaps you’ll understand
>>221316596it's the thing where showrunners/writers don't care about the source material they just want to use a popular name to get an audience for their own fantasies
>>221316590>>221316619Having burnt balls means only the strongest sperm survives.
i want to know how long alicent would have gone with seducing aemond if he didnt give in so easily>baby i wont let you cum until you promise me you'll go to harrenhalthis is the kind of kino that would fix this show
>>221316658unlike you i actually have and without mentally replacing everything i read with condal and hess tier fanfic
>>221316644>roleplaying as a hen is actually completely reasonable and sound of mind, you see?
>>221316644stop sitting on that egg, aegon, you're drunk
Why the fuck are norfs even in this war in the end? They won't get their marriage because the bastard's dead. I would just declare independence and ignore all the southern poofs.
>>221315352terrible quote. stolen from Elisabeth 1 and makes her look pathetic.I thought the only aim of the tranny writers was to make her look good?
>>221316708Because they made a promise and are sticking to it? Jace is just that good. (yeah realistically they should have gotten something out of it at the end but eh..)
>>221316708>we promised we fight for da dragon kweenthey are basically retards with no political ambitions or logic
I hope Sara Snow had Jace's baby and Vermax left eggs at Winterfell.
>>221316708they sent a bunch of old men on a death march. but don't worry, the faggot stark is going to appear once all the fighting is done and act all bossy
>>221316747shouldn't Cregan be there too? Cregan was actually fairly young
>>221316683You have not read the books, the entire reason why the HOTD writers have got away with everything is because it is an unreliable narrative where the truth of everything is unclear. But you can make suppositions. Like Aegon II supposedly being a crazy drunkard, but not killing his nephew and ending his rival’s bloodline, despite the fact he’s going to lose anyway with a Black army right at his doorstep.
>>221316724>>221316730I would say that sending the gramps fulfilled the promise.
>>221316493By first training and then going in to battle. There are fundamentals at arms that will help undoubtedly when it comes to keeping calm during stressful situations, keeping focus and thinking with purpose during a battle. Rhaenyra has never been shown to even hold a sword or do more than just ride her dragon in leisure. Again to be fair though, Rhaenys was never shown or stated to have fought in any battles prior to the Dance and everyone just assumes she has a wealth of combat experience. Realistically the only riders with any type of combat experience in the show are Daemon and Aemond, previously with Laenor.
>>221316688There are no Dragonhens so Dragoncock must be enough.
>>221316437clown make up for a mentally ill clown person
>>221316761there were several other people advising him and stopping his dumbest ideas, why is this so hard to understand for you? corlys would have turned on him on the spot if he killed little aegon and no one wanted that because alyn had the fleet
Aegon almost gets raped and this makes him realize that rape is bad. He tracks down that girl he raped and apologizes and this is the moment he’s redeemed in the audiences eyes
>>221316635The first episode of S1 is literally a text box saying 100 or so years before Dany. It was blatantly so from the start
>>221316804yep
>>221316788So Aegon is a crazy drunkard, but listens to his counsel and doesn’t pursue his revenge?
>>221316793This but there's like a fakeout where you don't know if he's gonna kill her or bend the knee, and it's all really exciting and makes you hold your breath in anticipation.
>>221316761He wanted to threaten blacks with killing Aegon if they advance but got killed before he was able to sent the messenger. I wonder what would be black response.>corlys would have turned on him on the spotHe still has Baela.
dont worry greenbros, otto will fix everything
>>221316813>guy is drunk/emotional and does stupid shit but is stopped from doing some of the dumbest most self sabotaging shit by the people who would also get fucked over by thatso hard to believe, surely no one in a position of power has ever acted like this, certainly not a targaryenlet's assume the opposite of everthing that happens is true because it matches my fanfic more
>>221314501/tv/, would you fish him out and hit it one last time before it gets cold? be honest.
>>221316793Aegon gets raped by Larys and this makes him realize that rape is good.
>>221316837You’re just retarded and take everything at face value, you believe in Brothel Queens too, then?
>>221316793no proof whatsoever he actually raped her. i think he simply pumped and dumped her and she lied to take revenge
I still don't get why they changed blood and cheese. That was supposed to be the red wedding of the show.
Peace could be achieved if Rhaenyra had not remarried. Aegon could recognize her as queen and in return she would name him her heir. Such arrangements were common in irl history.
>>221316866Condal’s excuse is that they couldn’t do it with child actors, same reason why Aegon the Younger doesn’t have a big role. But really it’s to whitewash Rhaenyra and make the show about her dynamic with Alicent.
>>221316869That would mean acknowledging that Strong boys are bastards.
>>221316866>they killed the boy or whatever but lets not dwell on it
>>221316855nah that's mushroom fanfic, characters would act differently if that were trueif aegon ii had actually made aegon iii heir this would have been brought up somewhere by someone and it isn't, and if team black gave the slightest fuck about aegon ii's choice of heir that would have been brought up and it isn't because they put aegon iii on the throne because he's their guy not because they would give a fuck about aegon ii (well it's brought up that team green could still be fighting for jaehaera which again doesn't match your fanfic)
>>221315985the dragons
>>221316837Why do you think they kill him at the end. You could only tard wrangle him so much.
>>221316895You simply lack the raw intelligence to read things critically, I feel sorry for you. And please use punctuation.
>>221316880And? The Dance of Dragons meta-narrative is 'stronk wymen denied power'. If Rhaenyra ruled as queen, their children could be given some appanage titles. Also, this conclusion is not necessarily true. Irl sometimes rulers would be forced to pass over their own legitimate sons in favor of brothers or nephews.
>>221316879>they couldn’t do it with child actorswhy? blood and cheese don't rape these kids or smth. plenty of kids in violent media
>>221316940>Irl sometimes rulers would be forced to pass over their own legitimate sons in favor of brothers or nephews.Pushing inheritance war to the next generation.
>>221316929Raw intelligence is when you read the wiki and ignore everything that goes against your narrative
>>221316887prince jaeherys whatever happened there
>>221316929blah blah repeated ad hominem you lose
>>221316908>long time no see bro
>>221316869That would have been an affront to Daemon, Jace, Corlys and Rhaenys. I think Daemon in particular would have chimped out since he kept drawing the short end of the stick with succession
Imagine if Aegon III and Baela had died and Rhaena's Hightower babies inherited the iron throne.
>>221316940No, this would have ensured a war between their kids later.
>>221316987Rhaena didn't marry that guy until after F&B was over and Viserys was around.
Only thing that would stop the war would be if the whore died in childbirth.
did ulf and hugh betray the blacks at the same time or was it spaced out? in the show we already see the seeds of betrayal with ulf wanting lordship and a castle. we haven't seen anything from hugh
>>221317026You know what would stop the war? If Aemond's egg hatched and he had a tiny harmless baby dragon while Rhaena got Vhagar.
>>221317003Sadly Viserys had an unfortunate accident.
>>221317050At the same time, they're both assholes in the book. They did fight at the Gullet before that though.
>>221317050hugh was a retarded meathead in the book while the show is whitewashing him already so I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even betray them
>they made sure to give daeron a tenti lol'd
>>221317057>Rhaena got VhagarShe couldn't handle allat
>>221315985The dragons, fucking hate Jace that bastard retard
>>221316961>>221316995Maybe yes, or maybe not. Such deals irl didn't necessarily generate dynastic wars later on like in England. And things only went south in England in the 15th century because Henry V died young and his son was weak and mentally ill and with a king like that, civil war and unrest are bound to happen even if there are no dynastic claimants, i.e. Robert's Rebellion. >>221316984That why I said only if Rhaenyra hadn't married Daemon
>>221317100Jace was great in the book, the show murdered his character
>>221317100His death scene was one of the rare good scenes in this show, same as Luke's death
>>221315377that shit is for the next season
>>221315327But she does get a dragon later on which causes the greens to shit their pants cause all dragons are basically dead by then.What a bunch of assholes, these people don't give a flying shit.
all leaks for reference. some things changed but it is still the same in general.>>221317150
>>221317176This is fake as all shit bro
>>221316645>Bobby B was a rapist because he had sex with Cersei against her will.>had sex with his wife>rapistthe West is a mentally ill society
>>221317176>Alicent confronts Aemond. She reveals the truth of Viserys's death and the burden of Aegon's Dream, showing him the inscription on the Catspaw Dagger. Touched by destiny or ambition, Aemond departs the capital with the Royal Army.Already proven false retard
>>221317176a bunch of this is fake or conjecture already
>>221316665Indeed. We need more Alicent sex scenes like full on HD view of her tits and asshole twitching as she gets railed by her sons
>>221317150>the secret of Aegon's Dream hidden within the dagger
At least the leak where Aegon becomes tranny captain's sex slave was fake.
>>221315985The maesters. Fuck them dragon demons and their inbred retards.
>>221317203its the "sex against her will" part that makes him a rapist
>>221317194>>221317225>>221317226there might have been some changes or perhaps additions but the stab in the neck in the 4th paragraph is dead on accurate and not from the book
>>221317316They didn’t even have penetrative intercourse not even once, and Robert avoided her so she could fuck her brother in peace. Cersei is the least raped woman in Westeros
>>221317391True she’s just a psycho white with a victim complex and that’s why modern women identify with and defend her
>>221317391It's almost certain that Cersei is exaggerating. Bobby probably tapped that pussy a couple dozen times, in fact some of the kids might be his. Cersei pushes those memories to the back of her head because they compromise the purity of her weird relationship with Jaime
>>221314993>Aegon is merciful and spares Rhaenyra’s baby >Gets punished for it because his daughter is now an obstacle instead of the prize, which causes her to get killedGeorge really hates the idea of mercy and compassion, doesn’t he? This isn’t even like a it will be paid forward thing because Aegon has no other descendants. Really thematically evil.
>>221317391Yup. Even in the books we hear Robert tried to make amends with Cersei and invited her hunting and drinking, but she refused. In the books she has become a fat alcoholic and basically is living like Robert. She also cries about her dad not letting her do boy things (like hunting). She fucked her own life up, if she went drinking and hunting with Robert she would have been happy and they could have become dear friends.
>>221317513>wanted to kill him or chop bits off him>compassionlol lmaoAlso Jaehaera gets killed by a Green supporter who wanted to make his own daughter queen. It's poetry.
>>221317444>compromise the purity of her weird relationship with JaimeCersei is a whore. She trades her pussy for things she wants. She's been fucking Lancel, Osmund Kettleblack, and Moonboy for all I know.
>>221317731>>221317731
>>221317326>but the stab in the neckHe kills him with his own knife you retarded speedwatching fucking faggot
>>221317764well, the leaker might have been a speedwatcher too. it is still accurate enough.
>>221317827kill yourself
>>221317841no u
