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DUNKA KINO EDITION
previous thread >>221489256
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Coddbros this is our thread
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How overpowered were royal Valyrian dragonrider families? I've heard the targs were low-class shitters back when the empire was still around.
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THE RATCATCHERS
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>>221499588
Don't mind if I DUNE!
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>>221499528
Jobbed to faceless men.
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>>221499584
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Aemond should've burnt winterfell, fuck norf niggers and fuck cregan
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>>221499528
Defeated by the Ratcatchers of Essos allegedly
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>>221499716
>your opposing side has Daemon AND the Blackwoods AND the Starks
The One-Eye never stood a chance.
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Team Black enjoyers when a little 8 year old girl gets impaled by spikes and dies a slow agonizing death over half an hour after a lifetime of being traumatized (it's a morally good thing because her father said mean things about a certified girl boss dragon kween).
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Huh??
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>>221499774
She always had a thing for non-Targaryens. Disgusting fetish, really.
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>>221499754
Fuck george too
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>>221499755
Who are you arguing with?

We all hate the feminist Black retards here
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>>221499755
>team black(Brazilians) when a baby gets ripped apart by unwashed peasants
>team black(black people) when an 8 year old gets presented to be a wife to a 10 year old(the author said she’s the most beautiful)
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>>221499801
How dare you question his genius you Brackenite. Your side is on the wrong side of history, chud.
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Rhaenyra should've just married Aegon.
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Aemond my beloved Prince
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Sigh, the ratings fooled me into watching this again, but there's still so much on-the-nose girlboss and anti-white-male shit
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Daemon my Beloved King Consort
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>>221499865
The ratings are down this season. And you should have expected it to be worse since season 2 caused so many unresolvable problems.
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>>221499864
>Has two on-screen fights
>Loses both of them
kwab
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>>221499892
>The ratings are down
ratings don't exist on streaming
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Greenchuds do content yourselves; no matter what happens to Aemond in the show he will still be less of a loser than Bittersteel.
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/stannis/bros where we at?

>Traitors have always paid with their lives... even Rhaenyra Targaryen. She was daughter to one king and mother to two more, yet she died a traitor's death for trying to usurp her brother's crown
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>>221499913
THE TRUE KING
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>>221499899
To think Daemon dies to this guy

Embarassing
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>>221499913
>>221499924
Good luck pretender, I'm behind 20 good men.
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>Let's be nice to beasts and stuff. And those two boys who are dead were kind so that's relevant somehow.
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>>221499880
looks like ai george
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>>221499417
egg is icsh
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>>221499951
>*taps the snail*
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>>221499951
I wonder how Helaena will die in the show

Maybe hee nonchalance is a farce and it's actually realistic™ depression on screen
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>>221499971
She'll slip on a banana peel and fall into the spikes
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>>221499963
luke is icsh
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>>221499951
chicken chicken
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>>221499999
This guy's face pisses me off and I wanted him dead as soon as I saw his smirk
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>>221500002
The queen is an enduring mystery… is she not?
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>>221499971
Mysaria becomes jelly when Rhaenyra and Alicent 69 and pushes her out of the window.
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>>221500018
>t. picrel
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>>221499584
You laugh but next episode will start with a cold open of Otto and Daemon talking before his beheading, in which he laments about the rat catchers and gives Daemon multiple cat handler contacts
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>>221500041
The tragic murder of the ratcatchers is no laughing matter, ser. I would never joke about such a catastrophe
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You're Viserys.

How do you prevent the war from happening without letting Strong bastards inherit the throne and Driftmark
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>>221500020
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>>221500073
disinherit Rhaenyra for the brothel fornication with Daemon, name Aegon heir
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>>221500073
marry laena, name my son with her my heir. simple as
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>>221499951
>tfw no quirk chungus autist gf who only grieves a lil bit after her kid get murdered in front of her
Perfect wife, you can tell she just doesn't hold on to things for too long.
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>>221500020
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>>221500038
>>221499999
>>221499864
Season 1 was so fucking good.
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>>221500002
After all, dragons are basically big chickens.
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>>221499911
Bittersteel is cool
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All these leaks better be fake because it just sounds like bad writing. Humiliating really.
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>>221499971
Yeah I think mysaria will kill her.
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I want Harrenhal
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>>221500073
It's simple.
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>>221500196
Childhood is thinking bloodraven is cool. Maturity is realizing bittersteel is the superior character in every way
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>>221500205
Sex with nyra
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>>221500194
DINOSAURS ARE NOT BIRDS DINOSAURS DO NOT HAVE FEATHERS
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I want house Strong fuck
Fuck the world I want house Strong fuck
Fuck House Strong
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>>221498969
citadel fuckery
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>>221500210
>We, uh, eat Rhaenyra
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>>221500226
Criston…
Laenor…
Harwin…
Luthor…
Alicent…
Mysaria…
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>>221500223
Yeah a guy exiled to the ends of the earth and eternally seething at his brothers sure is cool.
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>>221500073
Say that you did a whoopsie, declare your firstborn son the heir. Your daughter has absolutely no power base of her own. Literally nobody wants her to be queen. She'll whine and cry and have a temper tantrum but she does that all the time anyway.
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>>221500259
If sheep stealer is a goblino dragon, sunfyre is a chud looking dragon (and that's a good thing)
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>>221500205
She's so pretty
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Bloodraven being a cuckold doesn't mean we have to support Bittersteel

He's narratively meant to be retarded and a lost cause

Based retard at most
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>>221500268
Yeah that’s based and he’s a buff dude. We like buff dudes here.
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sex with the lady of the vale
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>>221500313
yeah, very underrated
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>>221500313
Why is there a woman in charge of the Vale? What is this, the Iron Throne?
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Fuck the whole world for denying the war crimes arc for softboy arc

The showriters cannot be trusted anymore, clearly.
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>>221500313
THE DOOOOOOR THAT FINALLY OPENS
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>>221500372
MOOOOON DOOOOOR
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>>221500354
Why should they care? They have a Disney Plus Star Wars show to make.
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I'm only still watching the show to eventually see the Hour of the Wolf
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>>221500383
Im watching for jaehaera
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>>221500354
is that the witch on the stairs?
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>>221500383
>Lord Cregan the late's finest moment where he kills people who killed his enemy and then legally codifies Aegon II over Rhaenyra
"Epic" moment
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Hotd was made to capture the female Harry Potter fans. That's why the blacks are all perfect and greens (just like Slytherin!!!) are all evil. Check hotd on social media and it's all middle aged to young women obsessing over what a girl boss Rhaenyra is and how badass she is.
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>>221500383
I'm just waiting for Jae at this point
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Bumping for more momcest
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>>221500383
i'm watching for the scene where the harrenhal witch takes the form of alicent and seduces to aemond
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>another season of Harrenhal psychosis arc
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>>221499492
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who up tappin they snail
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He's the only dragonspawn I'm willing to follow
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>>221500412
Think it's Alys yeah
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TAOOBA
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>>221500469
This shit was hilarious

I genuinely had my mouth open in sheer disbelief

I thought it was pretty based but then realized Alicent is a traitor so meh
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>”Welcome to Harrenhal, my lords and ladies.”
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>>221500383
I'm only here to see if they change Daeron's demise from what it is in the books. Daeron "The Motherfucking Daring" deserved better.
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>>221500383
Raerae caused a grease fire in sunfyre which led to his eventual death. Else Cregan would have been a crispy pup.
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>Tylands torture? Daemon did it
>Rhaenyras brutal taxes? her counsel did it behind her back
>Brothel queens? mysaria did it behind her back while nyra was crying
>Ironborn being allowed to rape and pillage? she didnt knoooooow that would happen
>leaving the dragonpit undefended? accident

You know this will happen
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>>221500638
WOW
WHAT A [CASTLE]
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>>221500682
Is Tyland even still alive?
I know he lives in the book but it seems unnecessary to bring him back at this point after he seemingly died.
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>>221500596
Welcome back Ser!
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>>221500682
The Ironborn raids were a necessity to show Johanna raping them so we cannot blame Rhaerhae for that
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>>221500643
My vote is for Gaemon as king! But only if I get a free turn at the Queen Mother
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>>221500702
seeing as he's the MVP of the entire dance and the hand of the king for Aegon III
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>>221500643
This image always pisses me off because it doesn't have Johanna
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>>221500268
Right?
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poppa bear?
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>>221499971
She follows a butterfly out the window.
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I need her to do that to me.
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>>221500643
lmao at cannibal at the top
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>>221500313
Why did she never get married though?
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I want Johanna Lannister and Visenya Targaryen to perform soft femdom on me and whisper sweet nothings and jerk me off. Each one on both sides and ears
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>>221500383
retarded starkcel
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>>221499584
>>221499665
>>221499743
>>221500041
>>221500070
>The ratcatchers! Idiot! The king is my grandson and my grandson is a fool. He’s worse than a fool: he’s murdered innocent men! And hanged them from the walls of the city for all to see! They are fathers and brothers and sons! And their wives and children gather now at our gates to weep and curse your name! With your child’s blood we bought their approval; with your mother’s tears we made a bitter sacrifice against the deprivations to come and you’ve thrown it away. After all I’ve done for you. Thoughtless. Feckless. Self-indulgent. Gods help us all! Instead of judgement you display impetuousness and diminish us in the eyes of our enemy. Ill-considered. Trifling. You never think of your father: his forbearance, his judiciousness, his dignity. He was right about you. Insolent pup.
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>>221498837
Probably the writer since she was the orange is the new black writer
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>>221500995
giwtwm
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>>221500148
you could bond about how much you both hate your mother in law
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>>221501061
Visenya death was so funny
>evil scary legendary witch queen kidnaps you
>she dies of old age so you just leave
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Sex with mommies
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>>221501106
Yeah, with the benefit of hindsight the blood magic would have been better used for life extension than making Maegor.
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Rhaenyra and her gloating fucking court of cunts.
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>>221501158
I like to think she looked wrinkled like a sixty year old

Not an old granny
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>>221501187
She probably did look better until quite late but she was supposed to go through some kind of rapid decline during her last year of life, possibly magic involved (like the strain of ressing Maegor?).
>By 44 AC - despite being healthy enough to ride her dragon to battle the year before - Visenya had grown thin and haggard, as the flesh had "melted" from her bones.
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Blood is thicker than water. #DemDragons
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>>221501158
>>221501187
Like this or something
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>>221501234
Are they Laenor’s bastards in the books? How can they ride dragons?
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>>221499755
maester propaganda, chud.
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>>221501251
They're corly's bastards
Laenor is dead in the book
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>>221501233
Thin definitely. Yeah those last years were likely rough from years of magic abuse lmao
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>>221501263
So Corlys could claim dragon?
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>>221500643
>kraken
>lads
>nettles
who else is cut
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>>221501237
would
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>>221501234
FAAAATHERRRR
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>>221501301
>the lads are cut
No... not like this... there's still time for Ben and Kermit to show up, right guys?
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>>221501299
fuck I messed up a little
in the book they're either corlys's or laenors bastards.
Corlys cant ride a dragon, but laenor could due to his mother
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oh no no no no
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>>221501237
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>>221500995
yes. YES!
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>>221501400
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>>221501327
If they hadn't been cut then they would've been present in that cringe scene where daemon sings with Aly and Oscar.
They also cut Aly's bestie Tabitha Frey.
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>>221501301
Would be very surprised if they included the Moon of the Three Kings.
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>>221501376
So if they’re dragonriders they’d have to be Laenor’s kids right?
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>>221501301
Marston waters aka the best (and main) character in the dance
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>>221501466
huh it looks like hess fucked up then
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>>221501466
House vekaryon has targ brides in its family tree from pre dance
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>>221501466
well you have the 2 sources
their mother claims it was laenor
mushroom claims he's Corlys's son
but there's no actual conformation
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Please tell me those leaks about Nyra's period in episode 4 aren't true
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>>221501303
60yo hags can get pretty wild these days.
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>>221501557
Probably even pre-conquest, the trio's mother was a Velaryon and back then they wouldn't have married someone who wasn't blood related.
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>>221501557
So at what point does the Targaryen dragonriding blood dilute out? Quentyn got whacked and he has Targ blood
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would King Jacaerys Strong been able to win over the populace?
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>>221501693
How much more Targ blood does Jon Snow have compared to Quentyn?
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>>221501234
They put them on a beach. A fucking beach. Not walking through the ruined castle. Not walking through a field of dead bodies. Just a random beach, so the Sea Snake could say his line with as much apathy as the actor could muster.
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>>221501237
always wondered why older women chop their hair and go for the shitty wasp Barbara Bush/Nancy Reagan style kinda afro. its so bad. they look way more beautiful with their hair like this
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>>221501739
well jon is a direct targ descendant
quentin has to go back to daeron
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>>221500910
is she going to rape her ?
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>>221501605
Ronnel Arryn lost his virginity to a valyrian version of this at 13 years old
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>>221501739
Jon has the magic First Men blood + he’s a male line Targaryen?
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>>221501773
I sure hope somebody gets raped. It can't just be only Cole in this whole show. Attempted rapes are so lame and pointless.
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>>221501693
Dany has fuck all dragonblood and she did fine. The Dany that married into the Martells did so 100 years ago though and her blood was already diluted with Arryn, Velaryon and random Lyseni.
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>>221501808
I’m not sure it works like that, children inherit different amounts of genes from their grandparents, Targ genes probably have magical properties which out muscle the other genes. Daenery’s line all has Valyrian features. Quentyn’s line all married other Dornish people.
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>>221501693
7 generations
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>>221501865
Dany is 50% riverlander and is 25% dornish, Quentyn getting his ass burnt is just what George need for his story so he did it that way.
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>>221501784
Although Visenya was in her thirties then I think.
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Good day sers
Since hotd is irredeemable dogshit I decided to finally watch akotsk. It was kino.
I have a lingering question though - did Ser Arlan actually knight Dunc before he died? He hesitates to knight Raymun perhaps because he doesn't know the words. As Lyonel knights him instead with his words hanging over the scene, you get this imagery of Dunc looking up and seeing Arlan, who looking down, shrugs. It's all very ambiguous but I can't say it seems in-character for Dunc to be dishonest and assume the status of knighthood had it not been truly given to him. Is this a TV invention or is it answered in the books?
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>>221499528
I envision the true royalty of Valyria to be sorcerers on top of just being dragonriders. I’ve always felt like GRRM was heavily inspired by Elric and Meliboné.
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>>221501906
That’s what I’m telling you, Dany probably isn’t 50% riverlander. You don’t inherit a quarter of your genes from each grandparent, you inherit different amounts.
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>>221501924
I honestly don’t think he did. It plays into Dunk’s clear bouts of imposter syndrome.
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>>221501924
Nobody actually knows. And hopefully we never actually find out.
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>>221501865
Targ appearence is surely magical. Book Rhaenys had black hair but way fewer non-targ ancestors than Dany. Appearence doesn't seem to be related to dragonriding though.
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>>221501924
No, Dunk not being knighted is important for the story
its a twist that the best actual knight was never a real knight.
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>>221501784
>>221501910
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>>221501997
Him and the Hound are like flip sides of the same coin.
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>>221502036
not really
neither of them are knights
but Dunk acts like one
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>>221501947
Valyria had forty dragon rider families who had varying levels of power but they probably had a republican Roman style senate. Gurm also said that bloodmages were powerful and didn't always belong to the dragonrider families
>Now there was, I haven’t gone much into it, but there was another very powerful group in Valyria who were not necessarily the dragon riders. And those were the people who practiced blood magic. And which, you know, there’s some overlap in the Venn diagram with the dragon riders, but not necessarily complete overlap.
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>>221502036
GRRM only writes one story, only a handful of character types. Brienne is another one.
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>>221502060
That’s what I mean. Sandor isn’t a knight, but his true monster of a brother is. Sandor is full-on antihero, a clear villain in almost any context, yet he’s still more honorable and code-driven than his brother. Sandor would never do the things we know Gregor the “knight” to have done.
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>loves beasts, creatures and critters
>has a dragon
>never rides it
>never mentions it
>doesn't give two fucks about it

absolutely mindbogglingly retarded treatment of this character
I understand not having scenes with Dreamfyre to save on budget, I guess, not that this show doesn't waste dragon budget on nonsense anyway (did we need Alyn flying around looking for Corlys? no)
But they literally say she doesn't have the stomach for riding
They could have easily included something cryptic about her, her dreaming, dragons, dragondreaming, it literally fucking writes itself but they went out of their way to disconnect Heleana from her dragon for no reason
all their fucking feminist effort and they botch and neuter female characters at every turn without a second thought
genuinely fuck these retarded mongoloid writers
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Snail tappers check in!
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sirs I did the needful
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>>221502141
>yet he’s still more honorable and code-driven than his brother
thats not saying a lot. being better than gregor is a seriously low bar to set.
Sandor did his fair share of murder, raping etc. just not as much as gregor
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>>221502162
>No dragons we harmed in the waging of this war
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>>221502175
dreamfyre is one of the largest dragons, why is she so small
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>>221502141

in the book dunc sweeps aerion off his feet while on the ground the same exact way the mountain does to oberyn and he thinks to himself "i could gouge his eyes out, but that would not be knightly"
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>>221502156
As crazy as it is to say, considering how much money they're spending on every episode, they legitimately do not have enough of a budget to adapt this story properly. Same was true of GoT, at least in the early seasons.
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>>221502191
I don’t think Sandor ever raped anyone. I think he only threatened it.
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>>221502225
kino
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>>221502226
this is a bullshit lame excuse
literally all it takes is a 20 second clip of Helaena opening her eyes from a dream with a dragon grumbling in the background
budget of 0$ minus what's already going to the cast and crew
They don't even need to show Dreamfyre. Helaena not only doesn't mention her, ever, they went out of their way to say Helaena doesn't have the stomach for riding

>What of Dreamfyre, mother?
>She can protect herself, besides, we couldn't make it to the dragonpit

im really, really, really not asking for a lot
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>>221502228
He'd rather kill them than rape them.
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When HOTD ends, it will be remembered more fondly than GOT.
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>>221502228
I think if were to be completely honest with ourselves and to the world of Asoiaf sandor likely raped a few woman in his time and perhaps even killed them after
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>>221499528
>Valyria once took over 300 dragons to a single battle just to flex
>Targs arrived at Dragonstone with a grand total of 5 dragons
>don't know how to make valyrian steel
>don't have knowledge of Valyria's famous blood magic
>aren't capable of building using fused stone
the Targs were a joke in Valyria and for good reason
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>>221502270
Undeniably true.
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>>221502228
>admits to killing women
>but he would never rape one
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>>221501924
It's implied that the shrug was that Ser Arlan not knowing the words either since he himself was never actually knighted so he wasn't able to knight Dunk. But that's just a theory....
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>>221502288
He mightn be ordered to kill, I doubt he'd be ordered to rape
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SEX WITH ALYSANNE
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>>221502272
Well, the season 3 so far is on course to be the best rated season of got/hotd/dunk
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>>221499528
Targs were amongst the weaker dragonlord families but being dragonlords still means they were immensely powerful in comparison to everyone else.
You have to remember Valyria had hordes of slaves working to death in the mines for example and actual armies built out of slaves.
The Valyrian merchants in the free cities of the freehold for example were also immensely powerful but weren't dragonlords.
Dragons themselves were so valuable that whenever they went to war the families didn't want to use them cause losing one meant losing power amongst the rest of the families, they chose to use their slave armies instead, against the Rhoynar they sent their slaves which were defeated and only after they took the gloves off and sent dragons which the Rhoynars managed to kill to a degree before getting overrun.
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>>221502288
Not going to lie. I think that to a guy as fucked up as Sandor, killing is better than sex. After all, if he was going to rape anyone, it would have been Sansa.
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>>221502308
Is your name Sabitha Frey? If not, then no sex.
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>>221502228

No. He just murders them
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>>221501924
>>221501997
>giving a rats ass about semantics related to titles rather than judging someone on their actions
do southerners really? Norfmen would never
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>>221501234
unironically you can skip every scene with the velarions and you miss nothing
I did it last episode
i don't care that he survived or that he didn't raise his bastard
I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK IT DOES NOT MATTER, STOP FORCING THIS SHIT
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>>221502267
It's not just that. It's the battles they barely show. It's the characters they just pretend don't exist. And yes, it's the dragons they don't bother to show except a few brief frames here and there. The show constantly demonstrates cost-cutting measures. They spend the money well, for the most part, but they still need much more to do this story justice.
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>>221502377

>Skip to Aegon scenes

Profit
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>>221502369
They stole this saying for the House of the Reddit, where people are fighting for "Visery's Girl" which really destroyed the impact of this phrase to be honest, as the declaration has now been recontextualised and it has nothing to do with the overall righteousness of Ned but just his position.
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>>221501234
The night this episode aired I said they were going to push this as an epic progressive scene for having all blacks and some guy told me to step outside
100% accurate and correct as always. These people are so boring and predictable, I wish they would prove me wrong for once
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>>221502492
sunday?
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>>221502337
He was going to rape her but then she sang the song his mom used to sing to him and he had a break down
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>>221502226
>Same was true of GoT, at least in the early seasons
and that's a good thing! Unironically, because it forced the show to get by on quality plot and writing rather than slop spectacle
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>>221501997
The Seven Knighted him bro. He's visited by his aspects in turn.
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>>221501910
even better, Maegor secretly an Arryn confirmed
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Am I wrong for finding Baela hot? She got style too
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>>221502443
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>bloodiest battle in the war
>one side gets completely wiped out. second sufferes crippling loses, everyone is traumatized
>lets portray this by cringe celebratory song
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>>221502627
Are you also black?
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>>221502492
Saw a post like that on leddit celebrating the diversity and was confused because I forgot that Baela was black for second.
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>>221502642

FISH FEED!
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>>221502627
You’re not alone
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>>221502627
I don't see it personally. Same with Rhea Royce. Both women are just average to me.
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>>221502642
No crying at the casino
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>>221499774
I don’t believe this. It would make Rhaenyra come off as a massive hoe.
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>>221502676

No but the thing is she's not the epitome of beauty but I find her attractive I don't know why
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>Alicent: I beg your pardon, Lord Wylde?
ITS NOT WYLDE ANYMORE, IT’S…RAPE!
>Alicent: Rapeaqueeno?
WHATS MY NAME?
>RAPEAQUEENO!
ITS A WHOLE NEW GAME!
>RAPEAQUEENO!
YOU WANT A NEW KING, I’M YOUR MAN!
SAY HELLO TO MY MAESTER FRIEND!
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>>221502642
To be fair that song was a bop.
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>>221502627
you're not the only one my man
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Baelor daddy...
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Do you think Visenya and Rhaenys ever... yaknow...
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>>221502736

Fucking kino. I'm a team green supporter but the line "We drowned the fucking greens!" is so cool
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>>221502779
I mean if you're going to be incestuous might as well go all the way.
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The queens
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>>221502714
Bill burr ass nigga
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>>221502779
I suppose Visenya proposed it on the condition that Rhaenys stops hanging out with wandering minstrels and other riffraff, but she refused.
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>>221502834
sex with phia
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>>221502827
Were they the worst thing to ever happen to Westeros?
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>>221502934
That would be the Andals
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>>221502934
That would be the Rhoynar
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>>221502934

That would be the iron islanders
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>>221502934
That would be the Children of the Forest
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>>221502934
That would be the deep ones
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>>221502934
That would be the (((maesters)))
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>>221502934
That would be the crannogmen
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I for one blame the ice giants.
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>>221502934
That would be the First Men
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>>221502934
That would be the Skagosi.
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>>221502934
That would be Ser Pounce
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>>221499999
season 1 bran is icsh
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>>221502934
That would be the Iron (((Bank)))
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>>221502703
She already comes off as a massive hoe.
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>>221502951
>>221503064
Cope
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>>221500073
Literally nothing. Die and let my kinda dipshit but also competent brother take the throne as he would be next in line.
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>>221502627
She’s cute
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>>221502768
Much better. But they should still be walking through the ruins of the castle and deliver the lines with some actual human emotion instead of sounding like he's reading it off a fucking cue card.
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>>221500073
just say aegon is your heir

the oath to rhaenyra was made before aegon was conceived, so once he was born it was voided anyway

viserys just lacked the stones to acknowledge it
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>>221502788
Why would you support any of these horrible people? You're supposed to be rooting for their deaths.
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why did it have to be valarr's armour
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>>221501951
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>>221503424
It was short notice and Valarr was the only of age Targ not taking part thus his armor was free. Can't have a prince of the realm in armor that isn't plastered with dragons, it would be unseemly.
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>>221502484
Not surprised they ruin everything. They probably ignore that Rhaenyra betrayed her father and committed treason too.
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How do you guys feel about Rhaenyra and Alicent in the show? I'm hating how they're being portrayed because the writers are making them perpetual victims with no agency. Every action they take in the books is done in the show as some sort of betrayal of trust by a male advisor, a misunderstanding, or an accident. The main characters aren't allowed any control over the story, instead things are just happening "around them" and it just makes them come off as extremely naive and weak because their moral view of things are "deboonked" at every step of the way.

In the books, these characters are supposed to fucking hate each other and want the other and her children dead. But the show wants them to make up and kiss so fucking bad that it's tearing the rest of the show apart.
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>>221502627

she looks like she smells like cocoa butter and gets in fights over chicken sandwiches at Popeye's
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>>221503469
he juuust had to have the whole set matching
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>>221503456
That’s not how genetics works. You don’t inherit a clean 25% of your genes from each grandparent. You could inherit more or less from one grandparent compared to another. So it’s possible that the magic in Valyrian blood means that the offspring inherits more Valyrian genes compared to non-Valyrian genes. This would be compounded by inbreeding.
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>>221503064
the western men native to the soil that resist incestuous schizos that lost their homeland?
figures you'd hate them, moishe. you keep pushing for more summer islanders in king's landing too.
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>>221503405

All sides are terrible. I just chose to support the coolest one.
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>>221500073
Betroth Aegon to Rhaenyra, duh
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>>221503516
It is how genetics work when incest is involved. Appealing to magic is just sad. With the knowledge we have, this is her genetic makeup.
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THE FUCKING APPLE BOY
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>>221503553
I quite literally explained to you why it isn’t even if we take magic out of the equation
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>>221503534
Team Shepherd is coolest
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>>221503579
And I told you how you're wrong when incest is involved and the limited data we have. At best there would be a tiny amount of variance that would still leave her almost half First Men.
Why is this hill worth dying on when you're admittedly just guessing at the alternatives?
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thinking of big daemon cock
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Otto couldn't stand Aegon throwing his cock about a little bit and left but never stopped loving his whore daughter who ended up getting him killed.

What a bitch.
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>>221503727
makes it ironic that Aegon II's natural son and daughter are what continues his line
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>>221503727
it was the RATS
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>>221503629
>Why is this hill worth dying on
Daenerys’ precise genes was not the original discussion, it was how dragonriding abilities could be passed down despite a significant dilution in Targaryen blood. You’ve isolated the case to Daenerys’ inheritance from Betha, which even then is not a clear 50% even with the incest. The normal variance could be something like 60/40. The variance could be greater because of the magic associated with Valyrian genes. That’s what I’m saying.

Notwithstanding that the introduction of Blackwood genes into the Targaryen line if we assume a conniving Bloodraven could be a ploy to substitute dragonriding for First Men warging genes, but that’s a different theory.
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>>221503727
Otto died because of his ratcatcher chimpout
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>>221503821
I get your point, but given its recessive aspects in the series I doubt the variance is that great. Even with it not being perfectly 50% with two generations of incest, the Targ line already had First Men blood muddying it up.
Regardless, Quentyn just couldn't ride a dragon because the Dornish are subhuman.
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I want to see Aegon's chimpout on his piece of shit mother when he finds out she planned to have him killed.
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>>221503969
Having Alicent and Rhaenyra kiss just before they both get roasted by Sunfyre would redeem the series.
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>>221504013
what I want
>Aegon feeding Rhaenyra and Alicent to his dragon after finding out she sold him out
what I'll get
>Aegon feeding Rhaenyra to his dragon while Alicent watches, then Alicent poisoning Aegon in a retarded act of lesbian revenge
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>>221504080
>>Aegon feeding Rhaenyra to his dragon while Alicent watches, then Alicent poisoning Aegon in a retarded act of lesbian revenge
This is basically going to happen because Aegon the Younger is too young
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>>221504109
Aegon and Jaehaera are both going to magically get 7 years older between seasons 2 and 3
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>sold by your father to be fucked by a decrepit rotting corpse
>all of your children (daeron remains to be seen) are fucking insane and one of them wants to fuck you
>the small council collectively wants to rape you daily
is Alicent the most JUST character in this show
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>>221504181
She's actually surprisingly well adjusted, all things considered. The worst thing that can be said about her is that she's a little neurotic.
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>>221504181
According to Alicent's cousin Daeron's a good bloke but given that he's team Green the writers will make him a psycho rapist or something.
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>>221504233
true. season 1 she made sense.

a shame about season 2.
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>>221499417
BOARS
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>>221504313
Well, coming from Ormund it doesn't mean much, they made him a psycho chud as well according to leaks.
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>>221504351
Why is there so much rape
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>>221504373
The face of Valyria.
Make no mistake, had he sat on the Iron Throne he would've taken Westeros into endless wars against the Free Cities and tried to reclaim Valyria itself from the smouldering ruins just like Emperor Aurion tried, before him, his dragon and his armies were never seen again.
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>>221504373
>racial supremacist who grooms his niece for sex
>reddit loves him

what a time to be alive
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>>221504368
Show writers not so hidden deepest darkest sexual desires
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>>221504449
>incestuous schizo that views western men as cattle and his own tribe as chosen
>would use western men as fodder to reclaim his tribe's homeland

a little on the (((nose))), grrm
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>*steps on a butterfly*
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>>221504368
Female writers
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>>221501924
The book is full of small hints that he's never been knighted. That's part of the whole theme of the story. Dunk isn't a knight, Egg isn't a peasant. Dunk wants the life of a knight, Egg wants the life of a roaming peasant.
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POPPA BEAR!
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>>221504527
Ned's dick might have cured her.

He had Catelyn wishing to be bred nonstop.
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>>221502934
>supposedly invade and conquer to defend against the White Walkers
>within 300 years, the Night's Watch which had stood for 8000 years without issue is now in shambles
yes, Targs are retards incapable of anything but destruction
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>>221504874
Nah, she needed young cock. If she met Jon earlier he could have dicked her down and calmed her crazy.
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>>221504874
Ned could absolutely fix her
>not queen and her kids don't all have blonde hair, so prophecy is broken
>Ned would actually let her exercise some power and take her advice, helping fix her self-hatred over being a woman
they'd have like 15 children
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>>221505010
The Night's Watch is House Stark's fault. It's their job to maintain it.
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>>221505056
>>221505063
>*prevent the war of the five kings in you're path*
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>>221505069
>Targs take a huge chunk of land for the New Gift despite the Starks warning them the Watch can't manage it
>Crown takes an enormous amount of taxes from the North that can no longer go to maintaining the Watch(North is instantly able to start building a fleet once Robb becomes king thanks to not paying taxes)
>Targs drag the North into constant wars, depleting resources and manpower
>Targs kill off half the NW by sending faith militant there which results in a Watch civil war
>Targs normalize sending people to Essos for exile rather than sending them to the Watch
cope, NW did fine for 8000 years and then imploded soon after targshits took over
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>>221505111
>not a retard like Catelyn, figures out in 5 seconds the truth about Jon Snow because Ned sucks at lying
>secretly plots to crown him with her daughter as queen because it fulfills her sibling incest fetish
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>>221504874
>>221505063
>>221505111
>>221505267
Hot
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>>221505267
>not a retard
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>>221505267
Being a spiteful retard is like her core personality trait though.
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>>221505069
Nah it was targshit's fault after Jaehaerys and Alysanne freaked the fuck out cause Vermithor and Silverwing absolutely refused to fly over the wall.
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>decide to portray one side as clear antagonists, dilute their personalities to be as worse as possible so the audience hates them, do the opposite for the "good guys"
>never give the antagonists any moments of competence on-screen, so it never seen they are an actual threat
I don't understand this decision. If you're painting the Greens as the villains why not go all in and make them see as these impossible odds that the protagonists must overcome? Instead, they are just blatanly weaker (mentally, martially and in military might) from start to finish.
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>>221505448
smarter than Cat, and Cersei wasn't that bad before she went insane due to muh prophecy
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Ratcatcher status?
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>>221505571
ratcaught
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>>221505571
tough job market
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>>221505513
They traines aegon and aemond wrong as a joke
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>>221505513
the dance was just poorly written and largely boring

even the "cool" moments some people pretend they want like God's Eye are anime-tier non-events
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>>221505707
Geogre wanted to steal from history again and chose poorly with The Anarchy, a dull event in English history.
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>>221504451
Because leftism is idealistic not functionalist. It's why they condemn racists to death but plead clemency for murderers.
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why were the velaryons made black?
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>>221505827
Woke writers
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>>221505827

The books never actually mention their skin colour.

It's unlikely but not unbelievable that they could be Black.
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>>221505827
To make the infidelity even more obvious
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>>221505827
Combination of wanting some black characters in the TV show and worrying that the audience would get confused if there were too many similar blonde people (don't ask me why they then made Rhaenys blonde)
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FETCH THE THREAD STRETCHER
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bear poppa ...
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new thread

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