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Based Dorne edition

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Remember when they cut all of the scenes from season 1 that made Daemon a likable killer, spontaneously made him a wife abuser (even tho he never did such things in the books), even a wife killer, and even cut the scene of him mourning the loss of his child, (and loving his kids he had with laena)? No? Nobody remembers?

This show was doomed from the start
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>>221506354
bro groomed his underage niece for sex
he was never likable unless you're a redditor
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>Aurion was one of the few dragonlords who survived the Doom of Valyria.

>According to histories of Qohor, he raised forces from Qohorik colonists and declared himself first Emperor of Valyria. Atop his dragon, he flew south to lay claim to what remained of Valyria and reestablish the Freehold along with his thirty thousand men. Neither Emperor Aurion nor his host were ever seen again.[1]
And we're supposed to believe Euron set foot there and lived to tell the tale.
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>>221506390
>bro groomed his underage niece for sex
t. Mushroom
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>>221506390
Daemon is the only one who cared about Rhaenyra from the get go. Viserys wanted to marry her for political profit. Daemon cared. Nigger.
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>>221506397
spotted the redditor

>>221506409
cared so much he betrayed the king and groomed her
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>>221506442
It's almost like you didn't watch this show or read the books lol. Viserys was a fucking retard. Please STFU
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So is all the incest stuff a Valyrian thing or just a Targaryen thing?
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>>221506458
It's a GRRM thing.
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>>221506454
>it's ok to betray the king if you think he's retarded
>but you also have to respect his intended heir
ok retard
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>>221506467
Rhaenyra held higher station than Daemon. She actually groomed Daemon. Learn 2 politik retard
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>>221506454
>Viserys was a fucking retard

This, Aegon II was the rightful heir.
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>>221506487
>She actually groomed Daemon
kek
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https://youtu.be/Qm9KBfZW5pI?si=lc3oIg9awaQASbJP

kino scene
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>>221506458

It's a shame Hollywood is so retarded and incompetent...
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>>221500469
>>221502768

Already discussed. See >>221395857
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why is troonlesboryna so hot bros....
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>>221506442
>>221506390
seething mushroom
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Would you rather have Rhaenyra or Alicent as your mother?
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>promise me, Ned
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>>221506694
Fucking hell everyone else's acting in the show is absolute garbage next to Rhys'.
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>>221506803
are you indian for posting all of these BLACKED pornstars in here?
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damn im just reading the hotd s1 chapters of F&B and sapochnik made up so much kino
>the whole sequence of viserys struggling on the throne, daemon picking his crown up for him
>vhaegar hunting luce's dragon
fuck... if only they'd kept him. we'll never know what kino he would have made for s2-3 or if he'd just eventually get out-retard'd by condom & hess and no longer have the ability to tard wrangle them
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>>221506818
I don't watch blacked, so I don't know who's in those videos
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>>221506818
>newfag
>capitalizes blacked
everything points to you being the jeet here
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poppa bear?
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>>221506949
Sure, complain about Twitter and not the porn poster. An true hero something inside you it's hard to explain.
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>>221506794
they're both shitty moms but Alicent seems the best option
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>>221506984
he is the pornposter kek
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>>221506392
he warged his mindbroken slaves and used them to get in and out with loot without having to risk himself
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Aegon has a broken penis and no son and left
Isnt Aemond the king now? Is he gonna marry that Baratheon girl?
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how f&b should have been adapted:

all the authors are in the same room discussing the events around a big book called fire and blood non-diegetically, s1 is mostly the same, however for bunch of shit like the rhaenys dragonpit explosion we get a needledrop or something similar and the maester or the septon goes (mushroom, you're fucking retarded. here's how it ACTUALLY happened...) and then it rewinds to non-mushroom's version of events.

each ep starts with one author (we all learn who they are, mushroom is coomer semi woke shitposter kind of guy who simps for rhaenicent, the septon is a chuddie who HATES blacks, the maester is a redditor smartass centrist) retelling the episode's events so we get a different sort of vibe for each episode since there are 3 authors, but for some episodes they all agree on how it goes so it is like a typical big budget GoT episode. the characters all behave a little differently in each author's respective versions and the episodes have plenty of voiced narration acting as sort of audio commentary that glues scenes together and prefaces what they think is going on. its like 20-30% narration 70-80% regular so viewers arent confused the fuck out.

also it all focuses on just the same scope of story as the current adaptation we got aint no time for that prologue/epilogue shit

obviously theres a lot more tits and ass in mushroom's episodes, in the septon's episodes there's a lot of violence and "legal shit" and "ahem, viserys was actually fucking shit king..", maester's episodes are like egg from akotsks explaining shit but he's obviously like 80.
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>>221507361
Aemond is the heir (since they removed one of Aegon's sons for no reason), not king.
And he's about to simp for the witch
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>>221507547
i want to see aemond die horribly
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>>221506392
Fuck. Just how bad is the Doom? For that matter, *what* was the Doom?
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>>221506694
Goddam, he was so fucking kino.
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>>221507612
>*what* was the Doom?
covid
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>>221507547
Jaehaera is the heir.
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>>221507612
the great reset
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>>221507612
Seven got tired of valyroids.
>Therefore her plagues will come in one day—death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges her.
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>>221507778
Nah, that would completely invalidate the reason the civil war is even happening
The greens need the heir to be a male, so Aemond would be heir.
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>>221506910
Weren’t wwii parachutes just silk?
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>>221507848
Not the straps. That's the synthetic fiber part.
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>>221507842
It's not though. Daughter inherits before her uncle.
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lol why
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larys in the books is very based. the show verseion makes him look dysfunctional and retarded and autistic at the same time yet all his plans fall into place.
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IP grabber, do not click
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>>221507975
im watching it rn. its rhaenyra and daemon fucking with no music. kinda lewd desu
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The Realm's Delight
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How come we talk about the rapes so much but not the part where Ulf talks about being diddled as a kid
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>>221508174
We only care if women and cute boys are raped.
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>>221508174
The rape scene was just so hilariously out of place
Ulf being diddled by a red priest is relatively believable.
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>>221508196
A septon of the seven would never, it's always these (((red priests))) diddling kids or doing blood sacrifices to their demonic god.
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What was Alicent’s grasp on the depth of Aemond’s attachment to her. Like she obviously tells him what he wants to hear but does she understand its that bad before he kisses her?
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>>221508437
You seem to misunderstand, Alicent was very into it from the get-go
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>>221508174
leftists have normalised pedophilia
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>>221506458
The valyrians had no issue with it
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>>221508174
I think the implication is that it was blood magic. He was very vague.
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>>221506409
How come bong women stop being hot after 16. How do they reproduce?
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>>221507612
I always assumed they messed up some blood magic ritual and made all volcanos erupt.
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>>221506910
If you can have dragons you can have everything else in your story.
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>AAAGGGHHH SAVE ME MOTHER-
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>>221508488
Trump, his cronies, and maga* normalised pedophilia.
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>>221507612
>How bad was the doom
gee I dunno anon, look at the map. it split an entire peninsula into pieces
It killed off the most advanced civilization with 0 survivors in an instant
it remains cursed to this day
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>>221506409
I hate shippers but this ship reeks especially something horrible. Such an obvious case of this dude grooming her and when he abandons her again, I’m gonna laugh, especially since they’re pushing all this dyke slop to go on top of it.
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>>221508587
I don't like watching the dragons die :/
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>>221508587
I like watching the dragons die :]
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>>221508587
>this liquid is burning me! I'm not a sea dragon! :O
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>>221508488
>>221508597
seething leftie
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>>221506794
>show version
Rhaenyra
>book version
Alicent
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>>221506794
What would you have me choose?
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>>221506458
Valyrian thing, each family wanted to keep their dragons among themselves
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>>221506794
Alicent
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>You don't get it man, we have to run at them one after one in a straight line and get killed!!!
God I hate this fucking show so much.
>Aemon why did you get off you dragon and enter an enemy castle alone, when you have an army outside?
Like what were they even thinking?
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>>221509427
I mean I might be more understanding of Aemond, but Rhaenyra was ready to piss her panties because Daemon randomly brought her into a castle with guys charging them, luckily 1 at a time.
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>>221509381
Stanis himself dies. R was to be queen as the king ordained and all made oaths.
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>>221508730
>when he abandons her again
Since Nettles is cut, for whom will he do it? Rhaena (lol)? Fake Daeron (lol)?
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>>221506392
euron lies 24/7

the problem is that even martin does not really know what happened to all those that dissapeared here and there and just like a huge number of other things its "i write something that is in effect a whatever declaration" which is martin's mode of operation
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>>221509555
>still coping
Literally 200 years later the same line of succession is used. Rhaenarys had zero right to the throne.
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>>221509624
>Rhaenarys had zero right to the throne.
King decided something, that is the law and the end of it.
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>>221509645
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>>221509645
It really doesn't. And the biggest issue is he NEVER directly changed the law of sucession. He only said Rhaenarys was his heir at the tme. And legally yeah, she was. But once her brother was born that's out the window. The law came back into effect and that should have been the end of it.
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>>221509645
I guess the blackfyres are the true heirs then
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>>221508587
he had two whole business days to turn around and cut the rope
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>>221509709
Always have been. Either them or Plumms, lol.
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>>221509693
>>221509709
King's direct commands making people take oaths, there are no stale oaths of this sort, supersedes all. R was to be Queen and rule and this is how it functions.
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>>221509693
>But once her brother was born that's out the window. The law came back into effect and that should have been the end of it.
nothing supersedes the King's orders. He was alive while his other children were born and could have changed his mind and made them the next king. He did not, so it was to be R.
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>>221506910
even if they had functional parachutes, they would most likely be useful even more rarely as they would die from;

dragonfire
claw and fang
the fall
arrows, crossbow bolts, siege weapons
other
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>>221507612
the 3er (later being bran) used greenseer climate magic to trigger the eruption
like they did to break the arm of dorne
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>>221509826
>the fall
the fall (intertwined with their dragon) as there is no ejection seat
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>>221509645
>>221509555
>>221509770
GRRM calls rhaenyra a pretender.

You lost tranny.
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>>221509790
Yeah, this is an absolutist monarchy, not a constitutional one. The king's power can not be restricted by (((laws))) and (((faith))).
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>>221509911
succession laws are above king's jurisdiction in even what you think is an "absolutist monarchy" (it wasn't, absolutism didn't exist in the 14-15th century)
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>>221509884
you are the only tranny retard, martin writes and says bullshit non-stop. His material make no sense and he knows it and he tries to patch things up as things become even more convoluted and moronic.
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>>221509947
King is above all in that world, the king did not change the succession despite having sons and being alive with them for years.

the rest is bullshit to have a story and the conflict in it,

he could have said, now my son is to be king and R is not in line anymore and made the lords take oaths.

he did not.
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POPPA BEAR!
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>>221509950
>[Tranny Speech Skill 100 [Skill check successful] [Logic Speech check (5) [Skill check failed] "his material doesn't matter except when i say!"
KEK
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>>221509974
>words words words btw westeros is absolutist
k
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>>221509997
This but unironically. The king's command can only overruled by his death.
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>>221510055
you dont understand what absolutism is
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>>221509974
>he could have said, now my son is to be king and R is not in line anymore
He doesn't have to, Aegon automatically displaced Rhaenyra in the line of succession the minute the Dragoncock was witnessed.

Viserys was well aware of that and as the king, he could have changed the inheritance law.

He did not.
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>>221509974
>King is above all in that world,
ask the mad king about what happens when you dont keep a good public opinion about yourself
Viserys himself says he's not above tradition
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>>221510097
He literally reinforced the fact that Rhaenyra was to inherit her entire life, he already broke succession by disinheriting his brother. Were it so straightforward the Greens wouldn't have to lie about Viserys naming Aegon on his deathbed. They would have simply been able to state that law is law. But they didn't.
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>>221510304
nta
treason kinda throws you out of the inheritance
she tries to pass off bastards as legitimate

Cersei does the same, but somehow when she did it, that was evil
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stop replying to the retard who thinks kings make up succession laws as they go
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>>221507612
valyrians fucked up too far with their blood magic and probably a slip made all the 13 (?) volcanoes in the peninsula to erupt at once
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>declare yourself as the king who can do whatever he wants because you're the king
>name a pretender your heir
>instantly, everyone who owns land through claims based on primogeniture rebels because they feel threatened
>a massive, multi faction army marches against you
>before they even get there, someone slits your throat
... is how the dance should have ended if targs weren't so fucking retarded
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>>221510388
Somehow......maybe all the murders.
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>>221510418
He's in every thread arguing kings have literally unlimited legal power kek
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>>221506397
>>221506774
Mushroom is the only unbiased account of the Dance
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>>221506354
>waaaaaaa muh le precious daemon was a good boy dindu nuffins
Oh stfu, you of all people should be thanking the retarded show writers for toning down all of Daemon’s atrocities.
It’s pretty clear that book Daemon was a pedo who went after little girls. On top of this he was grooming his underage niece from when she was very little (the show aged Rhaenyra up to a teen to avoid this so showfags could accept Daemon) and taught her how to give blowjobs when she was only just a kid.
Your boy was fucked in the head and only really starts to at least try and become a better person right at the end of his life.
>inb4: b-b-but mushroom was hecking lying
He was actually closer to the truth than what most people give him credit for.
Targaryen cunts are all degenerates and ALL deserve the fucking rope.
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>>221507512
Unironically kino way to adapt it
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>>221508488
>>221508597
Leftists (Jews) and Trump, his cronies, and maga (also Jews) normalised pedophilia
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>>221510850
>leftie so mad he double replied
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>>221509555
>The King can decide who is his heir because...he just can okay!!!
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>>221510281
>The Valyrian capital was built into a volcano, much like Dragonstone. And the dragonlords, highest of the nobility, lived here, at the volcanic face, closest to the source of their magic and power. And this was the Anogrion. Where the bloodmages worked their craft.

Lesson of the Doom is "don't live on top of your gunpowder magazine".
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>>221510918
Yes.
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>>221510850
>book Daemon was a pedo who went after little girls. On top of this he was grooming his underage niece from when she was very little (the show aged Rhaenyra up to a teen to avoid this so showfags could accept Daemon) and taught her holw to give blowjobs when she was only just a kid.
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>>221510905
>everyone who disagrees with me is one person
No schizo, some of us actually read the book so know that you’re full of shit.
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>>221510971
....semoc eH
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>>221510976
>know that you
but i'm not the person you replied to. everyone can tell it's the same person because [i'm not telling a retarded newnigger how to samefag]
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>Doom of Valyria was just a volcanic eruption
>black seamless stone foundations are just remnants of a megalithic culture
>long night is just the asoiaf version of our world's deluge myths
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>>221510591
I understand that this is about Vizzy T, but it's weird how, apart from the bit about naming a pretender as heir, it strongly resembles Maegor's own path
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>>221511028
Knowing George it's actually a little bit of both. The Long Night for sure wasn't 10k years ago for example.
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>>221511028
long night is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age?useskin=vector
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>>221511027
>show watching schizoid starts incoherently rambling about nothing
Are you Indian or just fucking retarded…or both?
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>>221511081
>incoherently rambling
which parts of my 2 posts to you are incoherent
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>>221510591
All this would have been avoided if Aegon hadn't accepted the surrender of Oldtown and melted down the Starry Sept, Citadel and Hightower like was revealed to the High Septon in a dream.
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>>221511042
that's all of targshitter rule to be honest. doing whatever you want assuming there are no consequences because you have big scary dragons but then it ends up in a majestic fucking shitstorm because eventually the resentment gets so high people don't care you have dragons they just wanna crack some targ fucking shit skulls
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>>221510611
nigger rhaenyra established her own inquisition and lined the walls of kingslanding with heads
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>>221511179
Ratcatchers
*drops mic
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>>221511227
FUCK
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>>221508587
Oh someone, please help them!
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>>221509723
The dragon could have just burned it.
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>>221511316
does anyone actually blame sheepstealer?
the first rider he allows to ride him doesnt even test drive or anything. Nothing, straight into a battle with anti-dragon weapons

fuck I'd be pissed too
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>>221510971
Based.

>>221511021
.desaB
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>>221509974
>King is above all in that world
nigga westeros isn't an absolute monarchy. aegon the kang set it up that way.
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>>221510945
people build cities around rivers and sea. valyrian power was derived from these volcanoes. why wouldn't they build around them?
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>>221511565
A flash flood and a hurricane are more survivable than a pyroclastic cloud.
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>what will you have me do?
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>>221511579
they were active volcanoes. no one is surviving a magical tsunami either.
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>>221511316
Does our guy die in the book? Or is sheepstealer eternal?
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>>221511628

Already discussed. See >>221395857
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>>221511628
Catch the rats.
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The queen is a traitor and traitors must be raped.
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>>221508567
Thats literally me visiting Paris
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>>221511656
No, he goes into hiding with nettles in the vale.
They start a cult that eventually becomes the Burned Men mountain clan seen in the main series
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Traitors must be made ratcatchers
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>>221509555
Stannis is alive in the books mate. I still believe in the one true king to overcome the Targshits
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>>221511316
Why does he look like that? Was he grown by the maesters in a lab or something
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>>221511556
Aenys fucked it all up. When he wanted his kids to marry, Visenya told him that he had two choices: either find them other noble spouses from the great houses, or let her go to Oldtown and destroy the Starry Sept. Aenys took the third option of doing nothing and this was the root cause behind the Wars of the Faith, Maegor's reign, Dance of Dragons and end of Targaryen rule with Robert's Rebellion.
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bear poppa ...
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>>221511667
I just know the Dunk producers are laughing about how bad hotd is.
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>>221511739
Either his snout was ripped off by Cannibal or he's a mewmaxing incel.
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>>221511795
He's in the Vale hitting his head against rocks to get that bone growth to mog other dragons.
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>>221511772
>>221511667

Already discussed. See >>221395857
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>>221511772
I'm afraid they'll shit up Dunk too with how popular it was
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>>221511847
i doubt he'd care with his reclusive nature. he just wants to scoop up even more sheepies in one fell swoop.
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>>221511866
We can't have nice things
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>>221506694
how dare they cast a good actor for this role and not a subhuman nigroid whose line delivery is like he's reading from a cue card
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>>221508174
I just find it funny that it's the same backstory as Varys
Are they implying something here?
Maybe that Varys is also a Targ bastard? Maybe a... Blackfyre?
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>>221508196
>Ulf being diddled by a red priest
It was a Red Priestess
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>>221506305
They got lucky.
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>>221512228
Because only the Blacks are black, otherwise the audience would get confused
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>*teaches your kids some Dornish*
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>>221512326
Nice.
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>>221512706
>me out of frame to the left of Mormont
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God this woman is sensual. At first glance, she's not my type. But the more I watch of her the more aroused I get.
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>>221511866
>>221512241
>>221512706

Already discussed. See >>221395857
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>tfw Rhaenyra and Alicent become the lesbian empresses of Essos
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>>221511628
>she's dancing. she says she will never die
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tax policy
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>>221512706
Jorah finally got his crumb
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>>221512847
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>>221513229
>Then a tanner named Wat declared to Bartimos that he had not paid the "cock tax" and thus his manhood was forfeit. Wat the Tanner later rode through the streets upon a stolen horse, displaying Lord Bartimos's severed head and genitals to the crowds and declaring an end to all taxes.
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>>221513316
>upon a stolen horse
nigger
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>>221513426
Horse theft is based though.
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>>221513426
you could've just called him a bracken
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>>221513426
Watch Lonesome Dove.
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>>221513438
don't mess with Texas
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what makes Dunk so much better than HOTD?
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>We see various different versions of him as well, which is nice — and challenging to play and very satisfying to get my teeth stuck into. We see him use his brain a little bit more than we used to, or at least check in with his heart a bit more
Tom is so wasted on this show
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>>221510971
No, no, no!
>>221511021
!on, on, oN
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>>221513575
Hotd is for goyslaves
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>>221513575
Soul.
A more practical and concrete answer is probably something like
>Less studio interference and meddling
>Writer's room that doesn't think the project they are working on is their legacy
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>>221513575
No dragon trash
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>>221513575
Simple hero story instead of contrieved high politics that need way higher writing quality to be believable and consistent
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>>221513646
Raymun Fossoway was really good in the show
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>>221511142
No sorry.
Westeros is civilized andal continent, incest, blood magic and massive burnings will cease.
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>>221513932
based
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>>221513932
Based and Maester pilled
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>>221513932
Team Faith
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>>221513932
Sorry but only Valyrian rule can wash away Andal religious NTR and First Men First Night (also known as Andal First Night outside the North until Targs banned it)
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>>221513932
>western men standing up for themselves instead of being cattle
Oy Vejes, very Anti-Valyric
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>>221514140
They stood up for themselves with cock o' the moon in hand and the wise among them regretted it.
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>>221506354
Its turns out
>the feminist writers room is appealing to the female fantasy
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>>221508544
One is an Australian, the other started the role at 30
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>>221506458
Was it ever explained why Daenerys was fireproof but all other targs are highly flammable?
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>>221514212
No.
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>>221514212
She did a ritual to the red comet unintentionally
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>>221514212
George probably thought it sounded really cool and then he changed his mind later so he never did it again.

This is the real answer to 50%+ of the inconsistencies in all writing.
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>>221514212
I always assumed it was supposed to be an one-off thing in the books thanks to the burning being a blood ritual with a sacrificed witch and a burned lord.
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>>221514098
it was weird that they banned it on the continent but kept practicing it on their island
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if I was Kingsguard guy I would certainly try to force myself on that bitch Alicent
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>>221514264
I still don't know if Arbor Gold is white wine or red wine.
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>>221514401
Surely it's white, what kind of red wine is called gold?
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>>221506392
My favorite guy to play in the Century of Blood start date for the CK2 AGOT mod. You can go and make yourself king of any Free City you prefer
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>>221514365
Jaeharys banned it on Dragonstone too, he was strictly Alysannesexual. Rumour is that Aerys tried it with Tywin's wife though (Cersei and Jaime secret Targs theory).
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>>221507361
This make the whole show-only plot of Aemond wanting to kill Aegon to take the throne even worse.
Like, you are already the heir now and sooner or later the Throne will be yours anyway because your brother cannot breed anymore
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Would you rather be a queen or poultry farmer?
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>>221508174
Red Priest can smell royal blood on people and they use it for spooky Fire God magic.
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>>221514212
In the book, it's a one time thing related to the blood magic. But Targs are not fireproof.
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What's the best kingdom to live in?
Including the Riverlands and Crownlands for the sake of options.
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>>221513932
Ah yes, the white-haires Hightowers. Trul the purest Andal stock in Westeros
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>>221514567
Reach is usually considered the wealthiest and safest
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>>221514567
>The North
Epicenter of the multi-year winters, and threatened by wildlings, ironborn and vampires. 3/10

>the Riverlands
Fertile, but the center of every war. 1/10

>the Vale
Mountainous and full of bandits, but good knights and culture. 5/10

>the Crownlands
Developed and the center of power, but Crackclaw schizos and ground zero for potential power struggles. 4/10

>Stormlands
Wooded and rains a lot, but largely seems untouched. 8/10

>Dorne
A desert with lewd girls. 6/10

>The Reach
Famously fertile, but lack of natural defenses, extremely hot and muggy, and rivers allow ironbabbies to sale anywhere. 5/10

>Iron Islands
Shithole. 1/10

>Westerlands
Wealthy, fertile, developed, with natural defenses on the landward side and a martial reputation that kept the ironbabbies too afraid to attack during the War of the Five Kings. 10/10
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>>221514212
George said it was a one time thing related to the comet and blood magic, basically everything happening in the right place at the right time and not reproducible.
If you read the passage it sounds like during the Dany controlled the magic like a bloodmage of old even though she didn't know what she was doing.
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>>221514567
Near oldtown, upriver on the western side.

Rich agricultural land, near enough to a large city so you get more profession options or business opportunities and furthest from the usual regions attacked in times of war.

There is a 33% to 50% chance of just dying of infectious disease as a child.

There is a 50% chance of being a woman, in which case you don't have many options besides trying to attract someone who is above your station and help manage the family business.

If you are a man then there is a 90% chance you are an illiterate peasant, though a sufficiently energetic young man might be able to follow in the example of Dick Whittington and move to the town looking for work. You might get work on the ships, you don't need an education and will get your first real coin. There is a significant risk of death, though more likely disease than pirates. As a sailor you might be able to dabble in trade, assuming some corrupt captain or purser doesn't just steal the cargo you thought was yours. Alternatively you could receive an education from a sept or a maester who realizes you are intelligent and try to rise in those institutions, though it is like being a grade A student nowadays. Being a soldier is just retarded. Crime is a better option, you could go for something more lucrative and less violent like smuggling, you may even come to the attention of a lord like Davos Seaworth for your usefulness.
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>>221514709
Westerland are the best option outside of the Reach, if you dont count the coast. Westerlands coast is the first victim of the cyclical ironiggers chimpouts with the sole exception of the War of the Five Kingd
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>>221514831
Maybe not live on the coast if you don't want to share your goods?
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tfw no comfy life on Lonely Light
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How would HotD handle this scene
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>>221514461
Man, I wish HoI4 had such a well developed ASOIAF mod. I'm too lazy to learn how to play CK2/3.
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>>221514709
>Westerlands
>fertile

It's full of unfarmable mountains, the only reason they're powerful is because Gurm doesn't understand history or economics and thinks having a gold mine is the same as having farmlands.

The fact is the Westermen would be the West Virginia hillbillies of Westeros.
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>>221514264
>George probably thought it sounded really cool and then he changed his mind later so he never did it again.

Just like the multi-years long winters, which would in fact make Planetos uninhabitable and devoid of life outside of the equatorial regions, which is why GRRM drops any reference to them after the first book.
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>>221515433
If those valleys and coasts are fertile it can very easily produce enough food to eat and once that's settled gold and iron mines are more important.
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>>221510388
Cersei just wanted to pretend her incest babies are Targs while looking at the drawings she drew as a teen of herself and Rhaegar riding dragons.
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>>221515433
The southern Westerlands are canonically an extension of the Reach plains that for historical events became part to the Rock Crown. They are very fertile and together with the Lannisport-Oldtowb trade system they would carry the economy to a good eleven even without the mines
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>>221515491
A continent going from Scandinavia to lower Sahara speak the exact same language from the top to the bottom
BRAVO MARTIN
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>>221515786
I mean, they speak Spanish in America and they speak Spanish in Argentina.
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>>221514401
It’s white. The Arbor also produces red wine. It’s called Arbor Red. Simple, straightforward folk those Arbormen.
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>>221515872
Yes, with modern transportation and comunication sistems that allow standardize language education across a whole continent. In a medieval society this is just bullshit
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>>221515872
Everyone knows colonial South America didn't have modern transportation and communication. Enough with the languages anyway, how's Aragorn's tax policy doing?
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SEX WITH ALYSANNE
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>>221509840
>>221510571
One Targaryen princess come back from this place cold like lava and her body stuffed with human faced slugs and you niggas think it was just a Pompeii oopsie.
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>>221516183
This genre of woman used to be everywhere.
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>>221515872
stop speaking common sense
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>>221514709
>stormlands
>8/10
it's a historical thunderdome for conflict on the level of the riverlands. They constantly warred with Dorne, the Reach, Essosi slavers, and whoever controlled the Riverlands at the time. And saying it rains is an understatement, they don't have a single port city because of the constant hurricanes so their economy is weak
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>>221515491
>tfw my whole country is north of the wall
Its over
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>>221516421
not really, there have been like 3-5 battles fought in the stormlands in the last 300 years. not hurricans either, and they have a port (weeping town). there just aren't a lot of cities because GRRM (the riverlands should have a couple).
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>>221515581
>>221515774
>fertile
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>>221516627
>tfw my whole country is north of the wall
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>>221515175
Emphasize at least three times that it was all a mistake and misunderstanding and no one's fault except for maybe some rapist's.
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>>221515433
>mountains
hills, hence the surname

As per A World of Ice and Fire:
>The westerlands are known for their rugged hills, rolling plains, fertile fields, and broadleaf forests. The land contains lakes and rivers, and the hills conceal systems of caves and caverns.
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>>221516183
I see her posted everywhere yet I dont ever remember seeing her in a single episode
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>>221516939
She's been in the background.

She will be replacing Benjicot Blackwood as the fierce battlefield menace.
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>>221506392
Euron went to Valeria like the neighbor kid went to Detroit. They drove through Michigan and saw an exit for Detroit and next thing ya know they saw the ghetto of ghettos.
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I can almost hear the yodeling
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>>221516957
>She's been in the background.
which episodes?
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>>221517062
last one for sure, she was at the party
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>>221517060
Nice wife and daughter ser, shame if they were kidnapped and impregnated by hung mountain tribesmen.
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>>221517136
It's honestly hilarious how the Mountain Clans have been doing the same thing over for centuries, instead of you know, settling for a compromise or being wiped out.
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>>221517060
>>221517136
>>221517229
>all the hill tribes combined still have fewer warriors than House Frey
>can't even make steel

I'm starting to suspect the Valemen kept them around for training
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>>221517229
Maybe they're the Sami?
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>>221512329
Rather be lucky than good.
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>>221517229
>Centuries
Millenia (lol
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I like how, because of all the retcons over the years, most of the "Andal" houses in the Andal Lands are actually First Men houses that integrated with the Andals, while Dorne is the overall most Andal of the Kingdoms (outside of The Vale of Arryn, IIRC) because George hasn't really gotten down there yet.
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>>221515491
The 'winters' are less of 'year long January' more of 'a year with only October-April' and vice versa, allowing for limited agriculture.
Sansa mentions 'summer snow' in GoT.
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>>221517422
Could you elaborate? I don't quite understand how Dorne would be the most Andal. Weren't they solidly Rhoynarised?
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>>221515491
So when Elissa Farman sailed west did she eventually reach New York
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>>221517457
In the original book, the North was the only place where the Andals didn't conquer and replace all the native rulers. George kept adding new houses that were actually First Men Houses and eventually changed a bunch of (albeit, implied to be) Andal Houses into First Men Houses. Dorne was basically split between Rhoynish (which weren't fully fleshed out as a conquest) and Andal Houses. Even the Martels are an Andal House (Nymeria married into their dynasty).
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>>221517457
In Dorne Ullers, Vaiths, Qorgoyles, Allyrions, Jordaynes and Santagars are Andal, while in other regions most of the houses are First Men.
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>>221506305
egg is icsh
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>>221517504
>>221517505
Neat. To be honest I always thought the weird names (Ullers, Vaiths, Qorgoyles, Allyrions, Jordaynes and Santagars) were Rhoynish since they don't sound like other Andals.
I wonder why GRRM walked back the world-building.
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>>221514098
>The first night was a custom in which warlords and heroes slept with maidens on their wedding night. Pregnancies were seen by some as a blessing, as the new husbands could then raise the children of heroes as their own.
So did people in Valyrian culture.
>On Dragonstone, where the Targaryens had long ruled, the common folk had seen their beautiful, foreign rulers almost as gods. Many maids deflowered by Targaryen lords accounted themselves blessed if a "dragonseed" was planted in their womb, and for this reason there were many on Dragonstone who could rightly claim—or at least suspect—that some Targaryen blood ran in their veins.
Dornishmen are ok with their wives cucking them.
>There are other customs besides that mark the Dornish as different. They are not greatly concerned if a child is born in wedlock or out of it, especially if the child is born to a paramour. Many lords—and even some ladies—have paramours, chosen for love and lust rather than for breeding or alliance.
Dothraki khals allow their friends to sleep with their wives.
>In some khalasars, Jhiqui said, the bloodriders shared the khal's wine, his tent, and even his wives, though never his horses.
All women of Summer Islands are prostitutes.
>Be they rich or poor, male or female, of high birth or low, all Summer Islanders are expected to dwell for a time in the temples of love that dot the islands, sharing their bodies with any who might desire them.

Andals? The only non-cucks in all of Planetos.
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Good casting?
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>>221517648
yeah, the alicent actresses mogged both rhaenyra actresses
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>>221517648
3 point downgrade at the least
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>>221517609
NTA but why did the Andals adopt the First Night practice from the First Men?
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>>221517667
That's just women aging in general. Emma Schafer is shite compared to Monke.
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>>221517694
lmao d'arcy fucking mogs monke and older alicent
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>>221517060
Is there artwork that has all the realms?
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>>221514567
Here's a slightly different version to this question: which city would be the most livable

White Harbour
Lannisport
Oldtown
Plankytown
Kings Landing
Gulltown
Duskendale

I think Gulltown would be the best of the lot, shipping of vale goods, stones throw from essos and convenient location of both north and KL
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>>221517675
Opportunity to get more pussy and make First Men subject like you more.
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>>221517694
facts

>>221517763
looks like the troon from euphoria lmao
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>>221517807

Oldtown seems the best place just in terms of life prospects. You could basically take any "career" path you wanted if you were keen enough, the Hightowers mostly keep to themselves and are kept and in check by the other soft power organisations. You're relatively safe from most wars unlike The Riverlands and the climate seems nice.
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>>221517609
>Andals? The only non-cucks in all of Planetos.
The most religious and trad Andals who rejected the High Septon as a Targaryen puppet gave up their wives and daughters to be impregnated by Septon Moon and wielded the visage of his cock as their standard. Cuckoldry is the very essence of Andal culture.
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>>221517912
Seems like a Tuesday for non-Andal.
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>>221517981
In the Summer Islands mayhaps, Andals seem to be black coded.
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>>221517981
why do non-whites hate the andals so much?
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>>221517981
>>221518026

Andals deserve it for not letting more Summer Islanders into Westeros.
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>>221518167
We've already established that their wife sharing habits are similar enough for cultural compatibility. When Planetos invents the ball, Andals will cheer summer islanders as their sons when sum fakkin goals are scored.
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>>221517648
I didn't even realised they changed actresses until I saw people talking about it here.
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>>221517841
>looks like the troon from euphoria lmao
blind ass nigga.
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>yes goy- ehm i mean otto, you have to plunge the targaryans into a civil war and get most of their dragons killed ensuring their eventual downall. its for your own good. remember, the maesters are your greatest ally
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>>221518167
kind of a relief in the end that (((targs))) lose. their obsession with destroying the west is insane.
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>>221517841
>looks like the troon from euphoria lmao
TRVKE
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>>221518387
>Western men destroying incestuous schizos that lost their homeland and view people outside their tribe as cattle
Based. see: >>221513932
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>>221518387
Aegon could have prevented this...
Aenys should have prevented this...
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>>221518428
>Cuckgon and Anus
lel
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>>221513932

Andals win again
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>>221518026
Andals represent white (particularly Germanic) peoples.

And you know (((who))) hates them.
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I’m starting to think HotD might be going a bit off the rails, bros.
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>>221518529
why do you say that?
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>I HAVE COME TO RAPE THE DOWAGER QUEEN
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>>221513575
>>221518556


Already discussed. See >>221395857
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Why did Aegon allow rhaenys to cuck him. Most powerful man in the world, rider of balerion the dread, in a chastity cage.
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>>221517763
>>221518383
>>looks like the troon from euphoria lmao
>blind ass nigga.
>lmao d'arcy fucking mogs monke and older alicent
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>>221518594
It’s sacred Valyrian tradition
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>>221514575
All the cool guys in Andalos used oily stone to build their houses on, targ scum.
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>>221517648
they're all uggos
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>>221518594
cucking is where dragonseeds come from
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>>221518629
it'd be a better edit for the iron islands or crackclaw point (for the squishers)
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>>221518594
He was sterile. Decades of banging his sisters and the results speak for themselves.
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>>221518629

Aren't the Ironborn the ones that interbreed with fish demons or whatever for the Drowned God?
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2 dollars says the AI slop spammer or the guy who thinks a middle aged troon is pretty is the same guy who thinks rhaenyra isn't a pretender

5 dollars say all 3 are the same guy
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>>221518698
Wouldn't the guy posting AI pics making fun of Rhaenyra think she *is* a pretender?
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>>221518676
No, that's the folks of the Three Sisters which is technically a part of the Vale. Some of them even have webbed hands.
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>>221518407
>>221518608
yes we know ranjeet. every white person looks the same to your poo filled eyes
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>>221518772
Oh yeah. But don't the Ironborn also have a fish thing going on? Like some of them have webbed digits?
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>>221518407
can't unsee
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>>221518407
they don't even look remotely similar
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>>221518407
It's funny that Emma even talked about their similar appearance in an interview.
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>>221518809
The Drowned God is more of a cultural thing, the weirdest Ironborn house is probably the Farwynds and they are mentioned to have eyes that shift colour but no webbed fingers.
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>>221518809
>>221518857
house codd has webbed fingers
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>Hightowershitters pretending they're Andals
Holy Keks!
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>>221516183
Wait a minute, is that three young lads in armor, pretending to be one person?
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>>221518802
>jeet who thinks a middle aged tranny looks ok just because he's white calling others brown
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>>221518887
the jeet always projects as it shills for a troon lol
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>>221518880
shitposting aside, what makes a house first men or andal after thousands of years of intermarriage? is it just religion?
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>>221516811
What's the issue?
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>>221518921
NOOOOOOOO you can't heckin farm there!
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>>221515433
>Vale
>cavalry power
>based in the mountains
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>>221518918
Culturally yes, although they're also somewhat aware that Vale is more purely Andal and North is more purely First Men. Ironborn is 100% cultural, children of thralls are Ironmen if they are born on the islands.
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New thread:
>>221519022
>>221519022
>>221519022
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>>221517376
>believing the Maester timeline
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>>221519170
the maesters are the ones that question the age of events as recorded by septons
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>>221511054
>starts have existed for 10,000 years
>only 1 mainline family remaining

This is the 2nd worst part of gurms world building, aside from the piss lazy naming conventions
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>>221520153
starts?



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