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>>221586960But that narrative makes no sense. He's not that old, and plenty of women marry older in that setting without complaint because it is all about status and wealth and safety for them, and a king, even a sickly king, is still literally the best possible mate she could ever hope to have. She's not even the daughter of a particularly important father. Her ovaries would know this even if her dumb brain doesn't. She'd be turned on by him. But TV Alicent makes no sense really, she's basically entirely a fabrication of the feminist writers and nothing like the character George created.
fuaaaak she's such a boss ass bitch now
>>221586972Why do women like Matt Smith? Hes ugly as fuck.
>>221587085MY ARYAN TARG QUEEN PLEASE STOMP MY BALLS
>>221587085it's like if hillary was queen
Any leaks for ep 4 yet? The ones I've seen seem to be dead-on so far.Youtubers who saw the first four episodes early still don't know what the point of fake out Daeron was so I guess that plotline won't progress much. I'm glad that we'll see more Aegon though.
>>221587113>aryan lmao
>>221587023This is a bizarre hill to die on, Alicent was clearly not physically attracted to Viserys. But by the standards of Westeros it wasn't a terrible marriage, he treated her kindly and never cheated on her or beat her which is actually a pretty high bar for a Westerosi highborn man
>>221587103For some reason a lot of girls like ugly men.I should know, I have a gf and exes and I get compared to Ed Sheeran of all fucking people.
Pshhh this nerd priest thinks his dumb gods and dirty peasants are any match for the dragons? What are they gonna do storm the dragonpit? YOU WONT DO SHIT
>>221587126she looks incredibly finnishmost finnish looking anglo ive ever seenanyways she's beautiful aside from the lesbian thing and incest thing and I trust viserys made the right call in betting his whole legacy and his house on her....
>>221587103He's attractive in an odd sort of way, it's the same thing with Benedict Cumberbatch.
>>221587153Its indeed strange. At least for the Kylo Ren actor I get it cuz hes tall (I like some of his non-SW movies too, he picks interesting stuff)
>>221587113>looks beautiful in character>looks like a goblin irlWhat's this phenomenon?
I didn't quite understand why Rhae was hesitating legitimizing Corlys bastards did I miss something? why would she give a shit?
>>221587169>most finnish looking anglo ive ever seen10/10 observation, can't argue with that lol>anyways she's beautiful aside from the lesbian thing and incest thing and I trust viserys made the right call in betting his whole legacy and his house on her....kek
>>221587085>>221587113I hate the stupid outfit she always wears. It's completely derivative of the late GoT Daenerys one which is supposed to be half functional half ornamental, but she should be wearing more ostentatious dresses like Cersei was.The scene of her handing out food to the poor PERSONALLY letting random fleabottom scabs put their paws on her was so hagiographical I just had to roll my eyes. They couldn't even show her servants handing the crates out in an organised fashion, they literally had her and Mysaria hand the food out in person, slowly. This is the very same episode where she complains about having too much of a workload too. The riots will be so fucking contrived after all this bullshit.
>>221587169Dude with a dragon, essential to her war plans, tells her he's homeless and she's like eh whatever, tough it out for a bit, I gotta redecorate my castle first and make sure we have enough wine.
>>221587103>Hes ugly as fuckhe has attractive features and pretty eyes, plus a cute smile
>>221587189IIRC, in the book it's because she's strongly prejudiced against bastards. It just makes no sense in the show because her sons are unambiguously also bastards.
>>221587103He has a lot of charisma.
>>221587181Looks better than Monke and Emilia ClarkePhia could've looked nice but she has a really awful hairstyle
>>221587103He looks non human and women like fucking werewolves and demons and vampires and shit
>>221587211Kinda fits in the books, since she's a corrupt dumb bitch that rules against women inheriting
>>221586972Viserys should hinted that he wants to annul Deamon's marriage and marry Rhea himself.That should get Daemon to finally have sex with her.
>>221587189She'd be eager to do that. It's very smart politically and militarily. Which is why she does it in the book.
>>221587198The way the Blacks mistreat the Dragonseeds is fucking hilarious. If it was me I'd be giving those fuckers whatever they want. You guys want castles? There are dozens of traitorous lords who I'm going to strip of their lands and titles when this is over, just pick your favorite castle and I'll try to avoid torching it
>>221587012Waiting for this septon to save the show by forcing Misarya into a walk of atonement (where she becomes an hero)
>>221586960>>221586868They have scenes where they talk, where they are friends, but you want me to believe they don't share a hug, or hold hands like friends, or anything like that even if she doesn't like having sex with him? It's weird to me; it seems like Hess' coombrained understanding of both human relationships and of her character. It's very compartmentalized. Even Sansa and Tyrion were warmer in the show (though in the books they don't have a bond even if she does find him ugly).
>>221587196yeah I agree the outfit should be a bit more feminine
>>221587238Blacks just aren't smart in generalTry ask one a hypothetical about if he hadn't eaten breakfast
>>221587198Should have given him the Rapist's chambers, with Alicent as a bonus.
>>221587189>>221587211No, it's because the show changed the initial "taking" of Tumbleton to be a simple ruse rather than Ulf and Hugh turning on Rhaenyra. After that happened she no longer trusted any bastards at all and even tried to arrest Corlys' sons.So now they reversed the order of cause and effect and Rhaenyra is randomly completely pig headed and refusing the slightest gesture to her loyal hand (who sacrificed fucking EVERYTHING for her cause) for literally no reason. Joffrey isn't even entitled to inherit Driftmark anymore now that he's the heir apparant, but she'd rather leave it to nobody at all.
>>221587198>>221587238>>221587269Why didn't she just invite him and his family to live in the Red Keep like sworn swords normally do?
>>221587254>Even Sansa and Tyrion were warmer in the showThat's largely because the show whitewashes the fuck out of Tyrion. Show Sansa has every reason to trust Show Tyrion, the dude's a goddamn saint who didn't even think about touching her.
Why doesn't Rhaenyra just force Alicent to do all the boring bureaucratic stuff? Threaten to kill Helaena or something if she betrays the Blacks.
>>221587284>for literally no reasonMaybe rhaenyra is just a stupid fucking cunt ever consider that
>>221587181makeup and deadpan face + she's some sorta raggedy alt messy hippie irl
>>221587288show rhaenyra is legit retarded
>>221587189Because bad women writers write bad women rulers. I thought they were legitimately trying to make Rhaenyra look extremely incompetent and unqualified to rule and I was told that is 100% not what they were trying to do. Supposedly they were trying to make it look like she's competent but everyone around her is trying to sabotage her, being selfish, or acting in a way that screws her over.
>>221587285Would have been better but still not really enough, they want to be lords and have castles. And this should really be a non-issue, lordships are a dime a dozen in Westeros.
>>221587285>hop on the dragon go get your wife and stay here for nowthis wtf
>>221587286Why was Book Tyrion so horny for Sansa?
>>221587103If you can't see why women think he's fuckable I dunno what to tell you bud
>>221587312I mean she's a kind ruler that's a fact, long as she doesn't start the ol targ madness like i was sure she'd kill the septim for a while there long as she remains like this she'll be alright :)
>>221587316i mean in the interimshould have been a non-issue instead of awkward retaerdation
>>221587331Tell me that I’m a straight man who isn’t gay or a woman
>>221587238Yeah, like why the fuck should Targaryens of all people care about traditional lords in Westeros? They're fucking invaders with no legitimate claim to anything. They claimed Westeros because they had dragons. Other dragon riders taking over castles is just another part of the Targaryen mythos for them, a reminder to all those traditional Westerosi lords that dragons supersede all of that. Targaryens are above everything. That might ruffle some feathers but a ruler that doesn't ruffle feathers is always weak and worse: is seen as weak.
>>221587331why is that then bro?
>>221587085Youre an unclefucker, yes its true. Nobody fucks uncles quite like you
>>221587359ugly men are fuckable
people are constantly provoking her and trying to get her to snap my poor QUEEN they don't know the burden she's suffering + with period cramps frankly she's owed a tantrum
>>221587196>It's completely derivative of the late GoT Daenerys oneother way round bruh. inbreeding means what it says
>>221587284Also it's extra stupid because, essentially, the war is over. Aegon is MIA with his dragon considered dead, Aemond is stranded in Harrenhall with just Vhagar so they could dispatch him by swarming him with overwhelming force whenever they wish, both lannister brothers are dead, I guess Borros is still tied to Aemond via Bethrodal? But yea after Ormund surrends that should basically be it and all the rest should fall like dominos. In peacetime there's literally no reason to delay. Corlys is actually quite old at this point, older than he looks, something like 70. Which in westeros is basically one foot in the grave. Anyone who inherits Driftmark now isn't in for reaping profits from it's prosperous port but years and years of rebuilding. It's hard to read Rhaenyra's rejection as anything but spite and arrogance.
>>221587332I wonder what other craaaazy wacky things will that zany rhaenyra get up to? A rat dinner? Now that’s just bananas! Whats next spider soup? Snake cake? She’s off her rocker!!!? Truly Maegor with tits
>tfw you're missing the latest iShowSpeed stream and your dragon starts chimping out
In the name of the Warrior, I charge you to rape bravely.
your queen's face when you ask her not to punish you for stockpiling food for your family during the famine she imposed on you
>>221587312She literally is doing the exact same thing Aegon did (promising too much in a random fashion) only she has no friends and Aegon promoted his frat bros.But we're supposed to believe she's competent?
>>221587288That's really stupid, but you are right that she should have just relegated her duties if she feels overwhelmed. Her hand Corlys is literally right there.A monarch doesn't have to do ANYTHING if they have a competent hand just look at Robert.
>>221587211lol no, in the book she legitimized the, no questions asked.But then she turns psychotic at dragonseeds over Hugh and Ulf defecting and Daemon taking Nettles and the rumors of them fucking so she orders Addam arrested which leads to Corlys to protest and him being arrested and then turning green. But all that makes her look bad and deserving of Corlys defecting so they whitewashed her again and changed it to Ormund doing a ruse at Tumbleton to make Hugh changes sides and Corlys being pissed at her also changes sides after he goes to Tumbleton as en envoy from the crown to negotiate with Ormund.
>>221587331Because he looks like a floppy-jowled dog?
THEY NEED NEW RATCATCHERSthings are gettin out of handdo cats exist in GoT?
/tv/ really is a bunch of browns and fags eh probably all retarded zoomers too.You like literally all the worst showsThis website is just Reddit with naughty wordsYou're not edgy, you're, not cool, your certainly not funny, your just a fat Redditor avoiding down votes
>>221587023He’s important because still represents one of the most powerful families in Westeros, the fact that he’s hand of the king puts him at a greater position than the heir to Hightower.
In the name of the Father, I charge you to rape justly.
>>221587398Top fucking Kek. They took the character from fire and blood who had an innocent woman gang raped for her mother’s crimes and had her serve a rat dinner and then be like “see??!! We’re not whitewashing her, she’s fucking nuts!!!!”
>>221587436Instead she just pisses him off by not giving him heirs. And somehow that's not her fault.
>>221584369Preston and his faggot sidekick are no different. They were lauding the trash last night. I know now when I actually enjoy parts of this show, which are few and far between, the faggot preston will always have the opposite opinion because he's worse than a shill, he's a shill GRRM/HBO don't give a fuck about. Imagine shilling something for free.
>>221587468Stop raping, ser.
>>221587328Probably a combination of being desperate for any kind of genuine affection and still being fucked up from his marriage to Tysha
>>221587464waaaaaaaaaaaaaah im a contrarian fag waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah what are u watchin lil boy?
>mfw Rhaenyra fights the 1%
>>221587103Thats Erling Haaland in the OP retard
Where is jaehaera, is she safe?
>>221587436I don't think it's as stupid as it sounds. Alicent doesn't really have a huge incentive to destabilise the realm and fuck everything up, plus she has years of experience that no one else nearby has, plus she has a bias towards pleasing Rhaenyra. I think the only major downside is that it looks dumb, but it could also be interpreted as an act of reconciliation with the Hightowers.
>>221587490In the name of the Mother, I charge you to rape the yo-err, let's skip that one
>>221587464>you literally like all the worst showswhat part of these threads being full of people shitting on the writing and making of women and black people leads you to believe enough people like this show for you to refer to a blanket "you" when talking about /tv/?
>>221587352Hell, Orys Baratheon was a bastard and Aegon made him lord of the entire Stormlands.
I genuinely think Ulf is my favourite characted right nowMaybe Hugh would've been too if he was more like in the booksIt's funny how Ulf's the only interesting potrayal of the smallfolk. They are either too brazen or completely faceless or holier than thou victims. The whole petitioning scene should've gone down like the scene of Ned speaking to the survior of Gregor's attacks, they're too well spoken and composed.
>>221587426Nobles should stockpile food since they have so many mouths to feed in their households. All their servants, all their men-at-arms, are they supposed to just fend for themselves?
>>221587510yeah i've got her here
>>221587489Idk what happened but Preston ha been more anti-GRRM lately and blaming him for all the shitty parts of Hotd
>>221587085>>221587304>>221587113i just hate this cunt's voice, that's all. i can't stand it. Sick of all these broads with deep tranny voices. But the tranny in Ep 01 was the worst by far.
In the name of the Maid, I charge you to rape all women
>>221587219No on both counts. Emilia looks like Naomi wood before plastic surgery
>>221587501He’s right, this show is for retards
>>221587526Thanks Aegon iii
Why didn't she just ask the nobles to distribute food instead of doing some weird passive aggressive prank
>>221587536>why don't all women sound like 10 year old anime girlsfagits a mature womanly voice
Sorry, who the fuck is Joffrey?
>>221587543>this show is for retardsbasically everyone agrees with that, what is your point?
>>221587530He’s literate enough to know mad dany is George’s intent but he’s liberal so he resents George for it
>>221587466And yet his whole family treats him like a pathetic shit.
In the name of the Crone, I charge you to rape all scholars and elders.
>>221587550They misunderstood the scene in Fire and Blood where Jaeherys makes the small council drink dirty water and gave it to her.
In the name of the Smith, I charge you to rape all commoners.
>>221587103Pure fucking AURA.He looks like a prime Dracula too.
>>221587524>mfw nobles buy food
>>221587521Exactly. The Targaryens consider themselves gods, above the traditions of men. That's how they want Westeros to view them, and they've always wielded their dragons to be excepted from the usual rules of Westeros.
seriously THEY NEED AN INFLUX OF CATS IN KINGS LANDING TO KILL ALL THEFUCKING RATSwhere are the cats?
>>221587536She enunciates her sibilants a bit strangely (Phia Saban does it too, but not as much). There's probably a word for it in linguistics, it's like a slightly slushy s/sh sound.
>>221587550She's been a dumb bitch that's unfit to rule for decades.It's like no one paid attention to Otto.
>>221587489Glidus and Shift are dependant on having a good relationship with HBO to get previews and such. So yes, they're literal shills who look over every time they shit on the source material to stay in their good graces.Preston is different because he's a jilted fan who resents George. Just watching his "going over" series he's nitpicking every other line. Every time he criticises the show he prefaces it with how much he hates Fire and Blood too. It's like that faggot hates that he built his online career around this shit so he just takes these increasingly contrarian positions out of spite. George V Condal is like the most clearcut actual creative vs talentless career climber case in showbiz but he keeps creating nonsensical excuses on C&H's behalf every time they wipe their asses with the canon.
>>221587614you just had to remind me of morbius again
>>221587614looks like a twink wearing a an off-brand skeletor mask
>>221587316>>221587350its a societal thing. peasants cant just become lord, it would be a gigantic upset. if it was possible, all sorts of revolutions and powergrabs were to expect.what I dont get about the money subplot is that wars cost gigantic amounts of money. she had the resources to constantly feed these dragons and armies and all that but the non-military governance is more expensive? also, why isnt there any form of "its okay, some of the archers can go hunt again (to what the peasant petitioner wanted). Wonder about the details in the book.
>>221587551My grandma had a lovely sweet high pitched voice and she lived to 99.
RAPE RAPE RAPE
>>221587542Good morning Saar
>>221587103The casting director of Doctor Who said that he looked like a caricature or cartoon version of a handsome man.
>>221587554Only the most important character of the entire show. But for some reason they decided not to include him at all.
>>221587650
>>221587664saw her on DEVS absolutely horrible actressi couldnt let that stand so i did some researchturns out she comes from a billionairce chink familyno wonder she was able to buy herself into rolesapparently she has sisters who also act and "model" but they are worse looking than her
>>221587658he's a sworn sword tho. once knighted they typically live in the castle.
>>221587664if she talked less she'd be so much better
>>221587103You know how some girls like monke or natalie dormer are not exactly conventionally attractive, but rather very unconventionally attractive?It's the same, Matt Smith is not conventionally attractive, but somehow he is still very attractive.
>>221587664Rhaenyra topped thisstrapon from the back using her big long targ body to break this little brown girl's ass in prone bone completely overtaking and smothering her
>>221587628Why did they need ratcatchers to begin with? Just have a few stray cats wandering around fending for themselves, it's not like they were neutering and spaying back then. They'd keep the rats completely in check and maintain their own numbers.
>>221587103you gotta understand hes rich and famousif he was just a chud working some construction equipment, they would not like him at all
>>221587542>Naomi woodwho?
>>221587570Yeah it’s kind of deserved when he got Viserys to name Raerae his heir, he fucked up big time there
>>221587714Famous actress. Strange you never heard of her.
>>221587689>chink familyJapanese*
>>221587689Oh, that explains it. Kinda like how D+D bought their way into running GoT.
>>221587732they don't look unlike
>>221587689She can be attractive when she wants to
Rhaenyra treating Ulf and Hugh like shit is probably the biggest most predictable fuckup she's made. It doesn't matter how low their initial social status was, you gave them nukes. You gave them nukes because the greens had more dragon riders than you. They're your main advantage, much more so than any lord or specific host. A knighthood by itself is NOTHING. Ser Arlan was a knight and he was basically a hobo. Once someone has a dragon it's bonded to them, so you shouldn't treat them as if you're leasing the dragon to them on your behalf.I wish we saw Tumbleton in it's original shape because it was such great payback. It's literally the riddle of power that Varys made.
>>221587732looks like a natural targaryen but unless she was some background extra she doesn't look familiar
>>221581540Larys NOOOO
>>221587732she looks like she fucks velaryons for some reason just based off that pic
>>221587665Chungus Phia >monke>Emilia>powergap>raerae
>>221587757The books always implied Rhaenyra and Daemon were going to murder Ulf and Hugh when they no longer needed them anyway.
>>221587426
>>221587788when you tell your 15 year old daughter to marry a lord her own age instead of banging her 30 year old uncle
Now that Daemon has gone fulll Targ supremacist, it would have been such slam dunk kino to have Nettles completely btfo Daemons delusions of grandeur when he finds out a random peasant girl tamed a wild dragon. That perfect character arc was dangling right in their face but they fucking cut it just to have one of the sentient mops hijack and bastardize her stroyline.
>>221587426>>221587788Why am I seeing this goofy fucking face all over 4chan? What's it from?
>>221587746the sky is the limit when you have jewish blood
>>221587772CUTIE
>>221587103you know that Anya bitch? she looks weird but hot.
>>221587757Also Ulf is more of a Targeryen than the Strong Boys since surnames are derived from the father and he's Baelon's son. Rhaenyra doesn't get enough shit for having three unlegitimised unrecognized bastards in line for the throne after her. That should be bad enough for most lords to side against her, definitely ones with bastard siblings.
>>221587757You probably have to force them to euthanize their dragons though. You can't land them and let them keep their dragons. Then you great two new Dragonriding houses.
>>221587768Yes, and dothrakis too.
>>221587806The showmakers lean into supremacy for the tribe. They're not going to undercut it. Same way they make sure all conservative men are rapists and conservative women betray their sons to be murdered.
>>221587808obsessionawesome movie, best hororr in agesit recently got high quality torrents just saw it myself a few days ago
>>221586972Why did is suddenly turn into an amazon or netflix fantasy show this recent episode
>>221587827something tells me i shouldnt look up what she looks like in current day
>>221587819what does it matter if she's their mother? they're targaryens either way.
>>221587787Show Rhaerhae would never
>>221587658>its a societal thing. peasants cant just become lordSure, but these peasants have dragons.
>>221587845>this recent episodeThe bullshit started last seasonTo be fair even in season 1 episode 9 was fucking terrible but everything else was amazing so it was forgiven
>>221587836That face is so stupid.
fuck me cant they just make fanfic of the show now and have rhaenerya fucking do something or just show more aegon and shit. Wtf is this
>>221587808Obsession. Movie made for $750 thousand and made $403 million and counting at the box office. Still in theaters today, with more screens than at opening. Apparently it's good.
>>221587836tell me about the girlwhy does she make the face?
>>221587847The maesters conducted fowl experiments on her.
>>221587870she just loves her boyfriend a lot :) just watch the movie though, its fuckin' great, this kinda of acting is easy to come off as funny/cringe, but in the movie thanks to the actress and cinematography its genuinely creepy, I could barely sleep after watching that movie and im very desensitized
>>221587859Yeah, the blood of the dragon makes them legitimate.
>>221587808horror movie called Obsession. it's about an incel who wishes for this girl to be his GF and a demon possesses her. she throws tantrums like any BPD woman and got this memeable reaction face. can't find the original xweet.
>>221587850That's not how bastards work. And no, it doesn't matter if she's their mother. Rhaelle Targeryen was Steffon's mother and he's still a Baratheon. You can even have both your parents be Targs and be a bastard like with Daemon Blackfyre (neé Waters)In truth they'd be Jace, Joffrey and Luke Waters as unacknowledged bastards.
She’s done nothing wrong, people really expect her to wave a magical wand on day 1.
>>221587910She's a Targaryen, not beholden to the laws and norms of fucking subhumans.Aegon the Conqueror didn't conquer the Seven Kingdoms by giving a shit what Andals and First Men thought.
>>221587692the living situation really is dumb. didnt they also live at dragonstone? >>221587859which rhaenyra cannot circumstances lose control over without potentially losing multiple assets. one of the reasons daemons antagonizations are so dumb.
>>221587505>be mildly attractive girl wearing a bernie (BERNIE) shirt>become millionaireman 10 years ago was wild
>>221587921Damn, maybe she should've also won like Aegon did if she wanted to put the fruit of her lechery on the throne instead of getting eaten by a dragon
>>221587904no reason to spoil the movie fag and he's not an incel just a stupid stoner, and the demon posession thing is denied by the director (even though it sure looks like it in the movie)
>check out r/freefolk>they're comparing the High Septon to a Nazi for being unsympathetic towards dragons and Targaryens
>>221587938>didnt they also live at dragonstone?yupit wasn't an issue for them to live at castle before they were knights for some reason
>>221587944just FYI, basically any non-fat girl can become a millionaire overnight if she creates an OF the day she turns 18 nowthe men with the money + the men with the guns + the teeming masses of simps have created this worldenjoy
>>221587921Would Aegon have succeeded if he had no dragons? He was still quite an intelligent guy.
>>221587919>have period cramps>be almost incapable of ruling what the fuck kind of statement is the show making here?
Why did Osmund have a fake Daeron on hand and why didn't Daemon also take custody of their flying nuke?
>>221587945She does win, her line takes the throne and the Greens go extinct.
>>221587978that wasnt the message I got
>>221587949we don't watch /tv/ here. and if the movie was good, no amount of spoilers would make it not fun.Three Kingdoms was even better when i rewatched it.
>>221587951Fucking kekYou can tell Sara Hess was thinking some shit like this as well
>>221587951Why the FUCK is the high septon in King's Landing before the sept of Baelor was built? He resides at the starry sept in OldtownI quite liked him not cucking, albeit I really hate the whole thing of making the greens out to not be real Targeryens (very ironic considering Rhaenyra only has 2 legitimate offspring)
>>221587983Osmund is a master ruser and Daemon is a dumb pedo.
>>221587985>the Greens go extinctcheck all the houses involved in the dance before you say that, faglord
can someone explain to me who the fuck joffrey is? isn't all of rhaenyras children dead?
>>221587996that's because you're dumb and you take 30 year olds complaining about period cramps seriously
>>221587614he looks retarded
>>221587985>her sons are raised without any input from either parents>their claim to the throne derives from being the closest living male kin to Aegon II>both consider Rhaenyra a usurper and don't have her counted as a monarch>Viserys II shits all over absolute primogeniture by usurping Aegon's daughterGreat job she did
>>221588004It's weird that anyone would consider the Greens to be not real when they all look Targ and have dragons lol.Egg's mom is Dornish, his grandma is Dornish and his wife is a Blackwood. Would that make his kids not Targaryen?
>>221587804>15 & 30i don't see the issuet. 16 & 33 haver
>>221587012Alhambra decree when??
>>221587985>she does winthe targs are completely wiped out and the hightowers still exist by the end of GoT
>>221588050>>both consider Rhaenyra a usurper[citation needed]
>>221588051Well around Egg's generation is when the Targs were at the least inbred. But yea, I think the show even dumbs it down more by using the greens and hightowers interchangably regardless of the context.
>>221587919She shouldn't have taken charge if she couldn't handle being in charge. She could have sat in Dragonstone until the Greens tore themselves apart. What was she even doing in Dragonstone? Not making plans to address all these issues before she flew off with a couple dragonriders and just declared herself queen? Oh right, all the people who could make plans and understood how to rule she left behind and doesn't want anymore because they... what exactly was her problem with her again?
>>221588066>we really love our mom bro just trust us>oh by the way I'm AEGON the THIRD, not the SECOND
>>221587951He's obviously just a stand-in for Sara Hess' rage towards the Catholic Church not endorsing abortion and gay marriage like every other institution has.
>>221587664You wanna tear up the dance floor with Mysaria?
>>221588004>>221588051The Greens represent a more Andal Targaryen dynasty compared to the Blacks who are Valyrian supremacists.
>>221588121She didn't know whether she could handle it or not till she tried dumbass besides she'd disappoint her dad if she didn't push for the throne as per his wish
>>221587836Inorganic hype, will never watch
>>221588144Isn't Rhaenyra half-Arryn
I kind of feel bad for Viserys as a character in the show due to the changes.Like he still makes the same stupid decisions from the book, but because they changed the ages of everyone they made him a creepy old man who married his teenage daughter's best friend who's the same age, not to mention the whole rotting corpse thing while in the book he was just an unhealthy fat guy.Paddy was just amazing at the role though I can't help but wish he lived a better life to play with his lego and not have to deal with shitty family fighting.
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>>221587919She's doomed the realm to suffering through sheer incompetence.
>>221588158quarter But the blood isn’t what’s relevant, it’s the customs they’ve been brought up with.
>>221588121It's so stupid when the prince/princess of Dragonstone is a title granted to the designated/heir apparent. So presumably the parcel of land the heir rules until it's their turn to become monarch would serve as a place where they'd be taught and practice rulership. But no, Rhaenyra doesn't even know something as basic as relegating your duties to the hand when you've got more on your plate than you can manage on your own.
>>221587816>Aemond's like "you gonna let that shit run?"
>>221588144It's a shame the Greens didn't hold the throne, they'd have ushered in a Targ dynasty that lasts 1000 years.
>>221588152suite urself nigger, as a horror fan I'm glad I watched it, but maybe you can't handle the spooks
>>221587985He’s part of her line btw
>>221588016Remember when she sent the younger ones away with the dragonless dumb bitch who later abandoned her charge to claim Sheepstealer and then kill the heir?
I’m just glad daeron didn’t actually end up dying, I always felt that “death” was cheap. So I guess one of those fake Daerons was real all along, how ironic
>>221587816>>221588183Was Aegon supposed to marry his sister?
>>221588193Stannis said this about my queen? yeah fuck this bulb headed inbred traitorous twat he lost the bastard bowl fairly
>>221588160He's not even that old in the show, the white Targ hair just made him look older than he is.
>>221588193greens and blacks are from the same fucking line
>>221588194she sent two children away then? not just the sheepstealer girl?wait is the sheepstealer girl her daughter?im so confused
>>221588175Which is show only bullshit since Aegon's kids are also inbred and raised with eggs and all that. Meanwhile all three of Rhaenyra's heirs """with Laenor""" are half Andal bastards that are literally not Valyrian (ie do not display any Valyrian traits)
>>221588207He did. He was already married to her in that scene.
>>221588190They are definitely the better suited to ruling Westeros, even their claim is derived from Andal precedent rather than the Valyrian “I can chose whoever”
>>221588230lmao
>>221588004>Rhaenyra only has 2 legitimate offspringand once again the show fucked that up too, since Laenor faking his death means Rhaenyra and Daemon's wedding is not legitimate.Even if he did somehow die offscreen, the fact lil Egg and Vizzy II were born while he presumably was still alive makes them bastards too.
>>221588222Sheepstealer girl is her aunt's granddaughter, and her uncle-husband's daughter. So, stepdaughter for her, I guess?
>>221588228The Greens didn’t even want Aegon to marry his sister, they wanted an alliance, so Viserys stepped in and forced it
>>221588239>even their claim is derived from Andal precedent rather than the Valyrian “I can chose whoever”Honestly choosing an heir is just objectively the better way to do it. Rome's golden age was 5 straight emperors of dudes with no sons handpicking their most talented distant relative as a successor, then Marcus Aurelius had a son who made it to adulthood and it all went to shit.
HBO really wasted an entire seasons plotline on a tranny when we could have actually gotten some real kino.
He would’ve been a terrible Hand.
>>221588190>>221588239They got the last laugh there since that's how it worked ever sinceAlso Viserys usurping Daena (daughters before uncles is Andal custom) means the blacks ultimately ushered in an even more male-preferential system than the traditional Andal one
>>221588278there's certainty in primogeniture that ensures no instability. if succession is based on choosing your heir, then there's guaranteed to be a shit ton of politicking, betrayals, etc. but if everyone knows the eldest son inherits, then problem solved.
>>221588296This is Daemon post-vision where he saw Dany in Essos and thought that meant Targaryens conquer the entire world in the future instead of getting wiped out in Westeros and only a survivor in exile.
>>221588296Honestly had Viserys made him Hand like Daemon wished for, he'd probably quit after a single day of taking petitions or doing all the paperwork.
Daemon's taste as always is fucking garbage, anyways I'll take one for the team.
>>221588309>there's certainty in primogeniture that ensures no instabilityBut primogeniture is also a dice roll every time. What happens if your oldest son is a hedonistic maniac?
>>221588322Rhaenyra prone bone fucked this while having her hands in the sides of her mouth and pulling her hair like a Mongolian pony mount
>>221588321He would've killed a lot of people, but they'd mostly all deserved it.
>>221588322witnessed
>>221588322thinness is the quality that is most sexually attractive. followed closely by inward pointing knees. a bitch whose knees aren't pointing inwards is unattractive as fuck
>>221586972Is that the painting from Ghostbusters?
>>221588253AHAHAHAHA yeah thanks for reminding me. Condal and Hess made the whole post-dance Targeryen family a bastard line just because they didn't want to kill a gay guy (despite him serving no further role in the story either way)I mean this was done to remove one of Rhaenyra's most villanous deeds in the books, that of matricide, just to make her already brazen insistance on having unacknowledged unlegitimised bastards inherit extend even to the kids she actually had with Daemon.
>>221588339fair enough - but - the dice isn't 50/50. granted no severe mental illness, and proper upbringing and education, more often than not you're gonna have decently competent children. i think there's a reason why primogeniture was the most popular form of succession for most polities for most of history.
>>221588341based and trueshe used a C shaped brass and jewel-ripped double dildo for it
>>221588349>inward pointing kneesbig hips?
At some point during S1 Sarah Hess the lesbian saw two female friends as lovers and couldn't let go of the idea since and it ruined the entire show.
>>221588378no, just inward pointing knees, like a cute little schoolgirl
>>221588339A man like Viserys II would've called a council and made Aemon king and Naerys his queen then sent Aegon back to fucking Lys but George needed something a bit more salacious and interesting to set up the blacktyrds rebellions, so he wrote the hedonistic maniac becoming king.
>helaena is just a retard now
Let's be honest here, if she were Rhaenyra would there be any fighting???
Do you guys think the opening ending on the blackfyre sigil is just a fuckup or will they simplify the ending to have all targs be descended from Jaehera Targeryen instead of Daenera Velaryon? It does make for a more poetic ending (which wouldn't make sense for Condal) but it would make the Blackfyres have Green blood while the rest of the Targs do notI honestly wouldn't mind it much. Altough the fact it also has four legs for no reason points me to them just not giving a shit / not understanding the significance of the inverted colors. Jaehera's been cast for this season so we'll probably see her in an episode soon. If she has a scene with Aegon I'll take that as confirmation.
>>221587827>"and their horses, all 40000 of them"
>>221588400wide hips cause knees to point inward
>Great Councilwould have been hilarious if the Blacks and Greens tried to solve the issue that way, simply because Rhae would lose incredibly from it.Like you have to remember that the big reason most lords would dismiss the whole claims about her boys being bastards is they have never seen the kids unless they visited Dragonstone or Kings Landing regularly.So imagine all the lords great and small showing up to this council, and seeing the clearly valyrian Green kids, next to the mixed Targaryen/Velaryon sisters, then the Strong boys. Everyone would immediately be able to tell one of these things is not like the other and vote Green.
When did Alicent just start selling out all her sons, like she couldn’t even pretend that was daeron.
>>221588442I wouldn't put it past condom doing it just to piss off george but he'll probably just end the show on the wedding with Jaehaera looking high out of her mind and Aegon with a thousand yard stare.Then leave it to media sites and jewtubers to explain what happened to Jaehaera.
>>221587103Just like women love Adam Driver. Charisma.
>>221588322RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE
>>221588442Viserys was never captured by the Rogares in show canon so the Targaryens can’t actually exist now.
>>221588487Why did she react with mild annoyance at her fathers headless corpse while Rhaenyra literally walked through his blood
>>221588482That's true. I saw some video on what would've happened if Viserys called a great council to decide his succession and the youtuber erronously assumed that everyone who swore loyalty to Rhaenyra when Viserys commanded them to would now be obliged to vote for her. Which is the complete opposite of what a great council would entail and it'd basically go against the whole point of having one if you just had to vote however Viserys told you to.I think it'd make for a good precedent to have two ground councils in a row though. Perhaps it could've given rise to a system of electoral monarchy where the nobility would elect their preferred member of house Targeryen to rule over them instead of following customary Andal succession.
Can someone remind me if they showed Rhaenyra's sons with Daemon yet? They're gonna be kings, right? Aegon III and Viserys II ?I remember I think it was last season they showed her giving birth in Dragonstone but I don't remember anything else, I assume it was one of them?
>>221588526for some reason they decided not show any of the next generation kids at all even though they're important and even though they spent a lot of time on the current generation when they were children
>>221588489That's my assumption aswell. With how this show is paced I doubt they'll spend much more than the latter half of the last episode on the regency. Honestly they'll probably wrap it up really quickly once Rhaenyra dies, which is a shame.I like that the specifics of her death were already spoiled in GoT because now Condal has no way of retconing it to replace Aegon with Alicent or whatever bullshit he might've had in mind otherwise
>>221588322AWOOOOOGA
>>221586972i'm... being reminded... of someone...
who's the actor they have set up for Aegon 3
>>221588556all the ages are just so wrong too
>>221588592Me
>>221588526
>>221588560>spoiled in GoT because now Condal has no way of retconing itThis will not stop Condal
>>221588608why would you make such a low effort commentgay
>>221588526>>221588556She had a stilbirth which was her daughter Visenya. Aegon and Viserys were shown and even introduced to old Viserys but for whatever reason they were cast as toddlers. And then Condal used the fact that (due to his own creative decision) they're toddlers to remove them from having much relevance in the story (like the gullet happening in large part due to their capture)It sucks that Aegon's trauma will be undermined by him being like maybe 4 or 5 when everything happens
>>221588612oh, these exist?
>>221588592Jaden Smith
>>221588614I guess he's already done it by insisting Dany is somehow instrumental to stopping the White Walkers
>>221588489>Jaehaera looking high out of her mind and Aegon with a thousand yard stare.>Then leave it to media sites and jewtubers to explain what happened to Jaehaera.so what happens to jaehaera? be as descriptive and salacious as possible
Please my queen kill my sons
>>221588677Gets thrown out of a window by a character this show probably won't even bother adapting
>>221587331
>>221588512holy shit you're rightwhat kind of bullshit will they have to make up in the show to resolve that? aegon marries daenaera velaryon, viserys marries jaehaera?
Redpill me on Daeron, what's his powerlevel in the books?
>>221588677She either jumped off a window like mommy did or got thrown out by the hand cause he wanted to marry his daughter to aegon. She fell on the spikes below and was crying of pain for 30mins before dying.
>>221588512>>221588703Viserys is randomly bethroded to a foreign house, I guess? They'll just gloss over it and not give a shit. Whoever adapts that period of history will have to fix the mess they've left him.
>>221588487>>221588682Can't believe she sold him down the river.
>>221588727>>221588713>>221588703man i cant keep track of these fuck ass same sounding namesi dont know whos who
>>221587103huge cock
>>221588132>I'm sorry, but the human sacrifices will stop
>>221588744It's because the show does a bad job of making these characters feel distinct (they'd rather let Rhaenyra and Alicent hog more of the screentime)It wouldn't suprise me if casual watchers completely forgot about Aegon and Viserys, especially with the two year wait
>>221588727They can’t adapt the regency properly because Aegon is too young and was therefore never scarred + Viserys isn’t captured. The timeline is totally fucked.
>>221588742I like that it's a green dragon
I'm hoping the ending is so shit it causes George to make another blog post calling them out as shit who ruined his story.
>>221588703>aegon marries daenaera velaryon, viserys marries jaehaera?That would be cute and better than random Lyseni if they didn't nig the Velaryons.
>>221588788>It wouldn't suprise me if casual watchers completely forgot about Aegon and Viserys, especially with the two year waithaving rewatched the first two seasons recently, I forgot about them
>makes Aegon and Viserys into babies even though they were closer to the strong boys agewise in the books>gives them no scenes because babies are a pain to film withWhat is Condal's endgame
>>221587332>she'd kill the septimLike that bitch could.
>>221588834I'm sure that if I didn't already know those two are the ones who become kings in the end coming in I would've been in the same boat. They really loathe giving scenes to anyone except a group of their favourite ~5 characters (especially Rhanyra and Alicen)
>>221587219>Looks better than MonkeYes>and Emilia ClarkeYou’re fucking high.
>>221588713>powerlevelDaeron the Daring: 3Daeron the Drunken: 4Daeron II : 0.02
>>221588813>>221588788>>221588840Honestly all this reminds me of something that keeps confusing me when it comes to these massive, high-budget projects spanning several years. The apparent total lack of a long-term plan. Condal had basically the ideal scenario for someone adapting a book into a show: A massive budget and the active participation of the original writer. How do you fuck that up? The one and only thing where I'll cut him some slack is the black Velaryons thing, the casting choices for HotD were made in the summer of 2020 where everything was crazy and that was way out of his control. But everything else is on him.
>>221588703Aegon will defined marry a Velaryon so the Blackfyres will be black. It fits what the show is maybe going for where Corlys “wins” and rules through Aegon, and therefore marries his niece to the king.
Rhaenys is a giga GILF holy fuck.
The Song of Ice and Fire prophecy will die with Rhaenyra and Daemon and be completely unknown to all succeeding Targeryens because otherwise the Night's Watch withering into disrepair makes no sense.I mean, it doesn't make any sense to begin with. The only Targ to actually substantially help the NW is good queen Alysanne under Jaeherys. Even Aegon, whose dream this supposedly all is, did nothing to help the night's watch.
>>221588929Which still leaves the hilarious question of "what the fuck happened to all the black people in Westeros?". During the Dance, there are apparently dozens (probably thousands, since the Velaryons are black and like all nobles they would regularly fuck peasants/brothel whores). In Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, there are a couple, with our only named character being "from Dorne" and possibly just a Summer Islander. In Game of Thrones, there are none native to Westeros.
>>221588966And what really makes it dumb is that if the Targaryens had knowledge of this prophecy about the Others invading, why would they not tell everyone?
WINDS COMING THIS MONTH
>>221588928I think the Daeron thing illustrates this even betted. He basically got retconned back into existing with a single line in season 2 after not being featured in season 1 at all, even where he should have.And yeah, the amount of making shit up as they go along is staggering. You would've thought they'd iron out a midly detailed outlins of the whole thing before season 1 even began filming but no. If George saw all this shit back then he would've sided with Sapochnik over Condal for sure.
>>221589015>it’s a calendar hoping the publisher shops out a hit on GRRM honestly
>>221588971Bloodraven killed them thinking they are connected to Blackfyres.The remainder was killed by Bittersteel thinking they are connected to Blackwoods.
Ulf Targaryen, love this nigga
>>221587103https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/200736168/ nuncle...
>>221588998Well anon, when you've got what appears to be a divinely ordained mandate to rule, that basically states that if you aren't in charge then the whole world's fucked, you keep it to yourself and never squeal a word of it to anyone. Instead base your right to rule on brute force alone, even as your power inevitably wanes.
>>221589015Is this for asoiaf 30th anniversary?
>>221589068?
>>221589085>guys I have a divinely ordained mandate to rule, that basically states that if I am not in charge then the whole world's fucked
It’s bizarre how they made the Velaryons black but didn’t do the obvious layup of making the first generation Targs during AKOTSK hispanic looking. Baelor is just an english guy when they could’ve got away with casting an hispanic guy
>>221589022He sided with condom cause condom had more power than sapochnik, george is a pussy who doesn't dare piss off the powerful in hollywood even though he's got one foot in the grave and shouldn't give a fuck
>>221589125The long night is a real thing that happenedThe Targeryens are the only ones who have dragonsDragons beat wightsTherefore Targeryens need to rule Westeros
>>221589068oh shit
Can someone explain why she needs to give a fuck about King’s Landing? Like…I get it is the seat of power and all…which matters somewhat when you want to govern the 7 kingdoms. At least during the GoT story. But you have fucking literal fucking DRAGONS and just barely won the war. If you need money, take a gigantic loan from the Iron Bank or better yet, sack Oldtown. Or even better yet…rule from Dragonstone for a few years. Keep your dragonriders loyal, keep the Valaryians loyal to maintain shipments…and tell the smallfolk to fuck off and wait another month or two.
>>221589157>The long night is a real thing that happenedProof?>The Targeryens are the only ones who have dragonsAnd Velaryons and Strongs.>Dragons beat wightsProof?
>>221589157Dragons bring the wall down and Arya kills the night king
>>221589223My dreams
>>221589157>thousands of years ago this allegedly happened, sure you solved it without needing us, but THIS TIME it will happen again and you will need us. So that's why you have to obey me and pay me taxes, basicallyUh.I can't see this pitch going very well
>>221589205>rule from Dragonstone for a few yearsAh yes, be the queen who instead of solving the famine fled the capital and fucked off on an island. The lords are going to like that a lot.
>>221589205Yeah cuz making an enemy of the faith worked out so well for the Targaryens. Got their bloodline and their dragons killed
>>221589355Maegor bodied those freaks
>>221589363>Maegor bodied those fre-ACK!
>>221589363Maegor killed himself while pissing his pants and crying for his mommy while the faith gathered outside of his door, then his family got raped into extinction while the faith got off Scott free
>>221589396I don't understand why they don't just cushion the throneJust build a proper fucking throne you inbreds
>>221589363Lmao they killed him, mommy had to bring him back with blood magic
>>221589412That would require said disgusting inbreds to have a functioning brain
Does anyone have some cool and recent asoiaf theory video
>>221588971The hint is in the name. BLACKfyre. Bloodraven bodies them and drives them off to Essos. Bittersteel will be played by Ice Cube next season.
>>221589412The king who does that would be regarded as weak and undermine his own reign
>>221589461There isn't really any room anymore. David Lightbringer pretty much solved all the mysteries. We are waiting on George to write new ones.
he has no stylehe has no gracethis ___ hasa funny face
>>221589363Bodied them with even fewer dragons lol. In retrospect both the greens and the blacks never imagined the smallfolk bum rushing the dragon pit, but at the same time…no shit? You proved dragons could be killed by starting the civil war. And with zero gold to fund an army, and zero food to keep the people happy, they remain your only asset. So yeah, stay on dragonstone, fuck the lords who don’t approve, they’ve got no dragons to tell you otherwise.
>>221589485David lightbringer didn’t discover shit
>>221589485I liked a littlefinger video some anon posted the other day
>>221589516>Targshits are contained to the cuckisland they crawled fromGood ending.
>>221587103He’s not ugly. He’s unique looking.Also has a bit of Charisma and that goes further than looks.
i miss vaemond
>>221589533What is charisma? Is it like having a half smile while quipping? I’ve never been able to quantify it, it’s always some abstract shit that doesn’t mean anything
>>221589015fucking ScreenRant, almost as bad as ComicVine.
see ya tomorrow /got/
>>221588487Being a strong feminist woman means you hate all men so much you want them to die including your own father and children.
>>221589461I figured out everything but I’m not telling you
>>221589728But don't forget to cash in the victim card once they're gone.
Have a great night got fans!
>>221588296This episode was full of characters just saying how they feelThat makes me feel angry!
>>221589396Seems like having a dangerously positioned spike on your spike throne isn't a good idea.
>>221589396What were his last thoughts before dying?
>>221589993“Mother I’m so scared”
Imagine how much chemistry they’d have if they casted a white guy for Adam
>>221590013I get them confused because the thor looking motherfucker is named Hugh and the guy who looks like he flirts with the Applebees waitress is named Ulf
>>221590013the nog looks so out of place in every scene and the actors themselves can't even hide it kek
>>221590051Wait, are you not supposed to do that?What if they like me? I mean like, they're always smiling at e, and the chuckle at my stupid little jokes
>>221586972Do you think Fake Daeron is going to be merged with Trystane Truefyre?
>>221587085could they really not find an actress with a little bit more of talent?
>>221587328because he is the self insert of GRRM and GRRM really can't keep it in his pants, except for in real life since he is a legit virgin
>>221587085>can't act>looks ugly>trannywhat does they/them even do?
>>221590235I don't think he's really that much of a self insert. Sam gets treated much better by the story than Tyrion. Tyrion may share some similarities but I'd say he's not a self insert.
>>221587169>she looks incredibly finnishNo finngoloid would be crying this much. Perkele voivittu just go sit in the sauna until your emotions die. Drink Koskenkorva until you black out if that doesn't help.
>>221590288WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE HER DO!?!?
>>221588322Mylittlehugot, thank me later.
>>221590290Tyrion is walking plot armor meets victim complex. He is always the smartest AND most oppressed person in the room. He has yet to meet his match, although, ironically, Cersei was the one who either outwitted or gave the foundation for Tyrion's schemes in most instances. Not sure if deliberate by GRRM as redemption for his mary sueing of tyrion, or because he inadvertedly wrote Cersei into a much smarter and more complex character in Feast and the show.
poppa bear?
New thread
>>221590354>He is always the smartestHe is smart, but he commits a lot of mistakes that come back to bite him>most oppressedIn a room of nobles, he tends to be, considering his father had the love of his life gangraped in front of him, among other things this board seems to forget because they have an hateboner for his show fandom.But his victim complex mentality is intentional and a character flaw, it's no chance he is devolving into villany.>plot armorWhere, when? I guess maybe in the battle of blackwater?
>>221590553>>221590553>>221590553
>>221587768>she looks like she fucks velaryonsgotta remember that one
