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>>221796654>they just kill it real quick LMAO
>>221796738Yes. It just cuts to them killing it. I can't believe the editing of this filth
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>>221796654>>221796695lol, imagine if it woke up with morning wood and had to try and pee with a boner
>>221796654>cyclops in deep sleep>completely surrounded by guys with swords and fiery stick>don't take the opportunity to stab him in the head multiple times and permanently maim or kill him>barely make an effort to blind him, then run away
an indian opens his mouth
editing masterclass
>>221796654This is edited right? No way that's how the actual scene goes.
>>221796738>>221796772they don't kill it, retards. did you not see when they're running away from it back to their ships?
black rapper opening
>>221796809Ermm... so THAT just happened!
>>221796809They couldn't just push through those?
>>221796654>
>tfw watching the odyssey
>>221796827Holly balls what the fuck did i just watch kek?
>>221796860>Nobody's my son!
>>221796860>>221796872
>>221796872wtf is going on here
>>221796842you unironically get better choreography from the power rangers
>>221796813Poke your eye and let us know how much pressure it takes to pop into it
>>221796872that's a little bit creative in its gruesomeness i guess, probably the least faggy bit so far
>>221796654Of course they made his eye open sideways like a vagina so they could shove something long and hot in it. hahahahahaha
Surely these are fake AI leaks right? There's no way these are real
>>221796853Chicken Arise! Arise chicken! Arise!
>>221796909Haven't watched yet, but I'm guess it's when Circe turns people into pigs.
>>221796938I am not a cyclops.This does not adequately address the points I raised.Try again.
>>221796909Ellen Page transition surgery
>>221796813>barley make an effort to blind him>>221796969That was my point, stupid. Now poke yourself in the eye
>>221796827>when Odysseus comes back from his arduous journey and forgets to buy tendies and hunny mussy for me
>>221796654>the monster writhing in pain in the moody dramatic lighting of a fire in a dark cave?>Naw the audience doesn't need to see that. Let's slowly pan over this shot of sheep standing awkwardly in the backgroundWhat the fuck
>>221796654What was the budget on this film? Why does it look like a highschool play?
>>221796850It doesn’t even do anything just sits there. The fuck was that it was like a comedy sketch. The thing was in such a deep sleep they had to slap it awake only then to stab it?LOL!(???)
it amuses me they fixed mobile webms just in time for the odyssey
>>221797040Maybe theyre ai fake leaks
>>221797065Imagine if they're not. Imagine the sheer embarrassment of producing a movie so bad that non-NPCs assume that it's AI for fake leaks.Is he doing this on purpose? Was he forced into the DEI casting, so he intentionally made a horrible movie (knowing they'll still praise him for it)?
>>221796827Costumes look like absolute ass
>>221796809>dude runs through a treeHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>221796809>>221797230>>dude runs through a treethis HAS to be FAKE. there's no way they didn't fucking catch that.
>>221797230>>221797274It's the camrip quality making the shadow on the tree blend into with the cape. Looks like shit otherwise but if you slow it down he moves out of the way.
>>221797274Nolan didn't care anymore
Did anyone else ever make a good Odyssey movie? I really enjoyed the book as a kid
>>221796654>DOINK
>>221796809>dude runs through a treeWTF
>>221796654>Hi, Im Johnny Knoxville and this is the Cyclops!>Shh, shh, okay, okay>*pssssh* *tee-hee-hee*>Guys, shut up, shut up!>Steve-O, grab the stick>Okay, ready?>3...2...1...>OH SHIT GO GO GO>HA HA HA>DID YOU SEE HOW PISSED HE WAS?>HE TOTALLY FELL FOR IT
>>221797332O Brother Where Art Thou
>>221797322I had to watch it a dozen times to see, but I guess you're right. And, to be fair, most normgroid audiences aren't going to notice or care anyway. But the fact that this exist should forever dispel the notion that Nolan is an auteur filmmaker. Fucking ugly amateur nonsense.
>>221796809Why didn't Rajesh just phase through the second tree?
>>221796813>Cyclops can speak, it just doesn't
>>221797375I heard their voices in my head as I was reading this lmao. It really does feel like a jackass skit.
>>221796654>cyclopsthe one thing they should have made black
>>221796827There is no way this is a legitimate scene, in a legitimate, massive-budget Hollywood movie. I choose not to believe this. This is an Asylum film. No highly-paid cinematographer, storyboard artist, costume designer, producer, and director looked at this daily and said "Yep, that's it. Print it, call it a day."
>>221796654>Gently nudges a soldier to death
>>221797332It's always been a challenging story to adapt because it's a fucking poem spread across 24 books written to be sung alongside music. It's told in a weird achronological order, makes constant references to other stories and cultural concepts particular to bronze age greece that require a paragraph of footnotes for modern audiences and is generally a story about a noble and cunning hero being strung along by forces beyond his control and shat on repeatedly because the gods are dicks.It's very much the ancient greek version of Job and translating that to a modern audience with no real context for ancient greece beyond the disney hercules movie and 300 is a huge undertaking.
>>221796738>>221796813>>221797042Are you guys seriously whining about stuff that actually happened in the poems? This is a poem from thousands of years ago. People's minds were simpler. They literally thought hay would feel like wool. The source material itself is nonsensical and stupid if you think too hard about it
>>221797488Peoples minds are still simpler. now probable more so.
>>221797488>pretentious liberal shill I hope Nolan sees your post bro
>>221797488so you DO know the importance of authenticity? in the context of the thousands years old source material, why does the ethnically diverse cast look like 3rd millennium America?
>>221796654This would be great as an AI edit with CIA trapped in purgatory and facing his demons that take the form of Bane in various different big guy stages
>>221797469>cultural concepts particular to bronze age greeceYou mean classical age Greece. While it has some details that were added to make it feel like the Bronze age setting, the characters, their actions, their customs and values, etc, are all very much Classical. This is why I'm tired of the historical accuracy retards crying about muh Bronze age. This is very much a classical Greek story.
>>221797065Maybe, but they aren't.
>>221797332Wishbone
>>221797488The lighting is pretty ass for a two hundred million dollar movie
>>221797648Absolute kino
>>221797658Ugly nigger.
>>221797625>chases them>throws one boulder, then gives upI know he can'tsee, but he should be having a bigger tantrum over being blinded.
They should have just make it full scifi like the old cartoon They can be as outlandish as possible without people complain
but all the (((reviewers))) said all the effects were practical and looked totally real?
>>221797618???Absolute retard, the Odyssey is from the 8th century BC, it uses archaic Greek not found anywhere else.
>>221797658BAHAHAHAHAHA
>>221796654Requesting the tom holland fucking robert pattinson scene
>>221796695why is this so retarded
>>221796853To think Nolan won't lose his job over this shit
>>221797785He fucks the blind black poet anon
what the fuck am I watching this looks horrendous lol
>>221797407that movie is incredible, so many quotable moments>sir your foldin moneys come undonelol love that guy
>>221797781wow she actually looked better in 12 years a slave
>>221796860
>>221797902she still looks like an ugly black guy
>>221796827>Hahaha you think this is the real Quaid? >It is
>>221797903kek
>>221796853> Odyssey!> Odyssey!> All da sea that dey lost in is all I see!
This movie looks utterly atrocious, which is why it's still going to make a billion dollars somehow
>>221797960Is this webm edited?>horse goes from laying down to up in 2 seconds
>>221796654whyd they do that? he was just chillin? evil wypipo.
>>221797994i dont know a single person that is going to see this movie, i knew 5 people who went to see obsession
>>221797040I think like 289 million dollars.
>>221797065You know it's bad when the only defense is to say it couldn't be that bad and it's A.I. to try to trick people into seeing it anyways. If that was the case they would just share them on Twitter and say these are fake
>>221797997Every scene just jumps to the next with very little connection. Its kind of crazy that the movie is filled with 1-2 second shots and they still cant edit it to make sense and still cut tons of it out
>>221797960Every version of the Trojan Horse I've seen has it on all four legs and some hastily made wheels so the guys inside actually have a place to sit and it doesn't topple over on its fucking SIDE while they're moving it and toss them around like pennies in a child's piggy bank.
>>221797332The episode of the Simpsons and Hercules the animated series
>>2217973321960's Italian tv series. Best one.
Will some nigger link the camrip or what?
>>221797488> They literally thought hay would feel like wool.Yes, the people must familiar with both of those things and that probably interacted with them each day en mass most likely has no concept of either
>>221796695The whole trickery was that they tied themselves to the sheep and the blinded giant felt each sheep to make sure the humans are not escaping. In this they just walk out.
>>221797658See her? I burnt her locally Spider boy
>>221797625Law textbooks about embezzlement will just be a flipbook of this scene.
>>221796695>Benny Hill theme plays at the endabsolute cinema
But will the AI odyssey be better?
>>221798139Check the other thread nigger
>>221798175definitely, but who do we replace actors like John Leguizamo and Travis Scott with? Zendaya too
>>221796654>>221797591If I stab you in your only eye, will you die?
>>221797458Who the fuck is this even meant to be?Nigga looks like Zendaya
>>221797960>Yo Odie you think they burn local here in Troy?
Does Odysseus really not trick the cyclops by telling him his name is "Nobody"? That was my favorite part of the story as a kid.
>>221798175at least there's some entertainment value in nolan's trashfire
>>221798252Too clever for Nolan
>>221797658> M'ASKUSUMPTIN'.... You ever seen a gash dat dark? Hmmm? Lookatdat...bonafide Zulu.
>>221798252The entire movie focuses on Odysseus being incompetent and having to sacrifice others to get anything done
>>221797821Seriously?
>>221797332Maybe if someone made it as a tv series. But the big dilemma to me is how to render the Greek Gods. That's consistently what directors are afraid of ever doing. Funnily enough at least with the Iliad you can run a parallel scene, as Iliad book five has Athena and Diomedes:>As Diomedes prayed, Pallas Athena heard.>She put fresh strength into his legs and upper arms. 140>Standing close by, she spoke. Her words had wings.>“Take courage, Diomedes, in this fight with Trojans.>I’ve put your father’s strength into your chest,>that shield-bearing horseman’s fearless power.>And I’ve removed the filter from your eyes>which covered them before, so now,>you’ll easily distinguish gods from men.>If a god comes here and stands against you,>don’t offer to fight any deathless one, >except for Aphrodite, Zeus’ daughter. 150>If she fights, cut her with your sharp bronze.”So you won't have a 12 foot Ares running around, or humans fighting and then along comes a Marvel capeshit character. You could do some clever play with the beguilding - appearing and disappearing, >>221797618Absolute horseshit. It is thoroughly archaic or even geometric dark age Greek. It has absolutely nothing to match to classical antiquity. Even Tasting History remarked about the later Greek or Roman writer who wrote how the Iliad's guys ate meat only and never fish, which is wildly off the mark for the predominance of fish in classical greek cuisine.
>>221798252Same here, the whole point of the story is our clever hero outwitting the monster, not just stabbing him with a fucking stick and booking it like a retard.
jesus christ it's like a live action adaption of attack on titanand that's not a compliment
>>221796695>hurry, get on the boat and lets high tail it outta here!Why are they acting like a sailboat is a car or a rocketship?
>>221798252>NOBODY STABBED MY EYE OUT>NOBODY PUT OUT MY EYE>Some other Cyclopse a few hills over:"THEN WHY YOU SHOUTING! IF YOU KEEP FUCKIN SHOUTING I'LL STAB YOUR EYE OUT. SOME OF US CYCLOPSES GOTTA WAKE UP EARLY TOMORROW YOU CHEESEMONGER"
>>221798325Emily Wilson's localization of the Odyssey recontextualizes Odysseus as an idiot who selfishly hurts the people around him
>>221796654THIS IS AN AISLOP FALSE FLAGDO NOT FALL FOR IT
>>221798325Blockbuster movies have to be made with the global audience in mind. Do you think indians could understand a scene like that? Do you think they would be entertained by a scene like that?
>>221798311>>221797332The 1968 Italian miniseries was good and included Athena (visualized as a statue in goddess form and by whoever she was possessing at the time)
>>221796654maybe the genuine color grading and aspect ratio improves itbut it's a nolan film so the sound will still suck
>>221797524>>221798140>what's this suspiciously hollow wooden horse? Let's bring it inside. What's that sound that feels like human bodies rattling around in there? Probably nothing.Lol, yeah. These people were geniusesThere's really no way to do a good adaptation because these epics are nonsensical as fuck
>>221796654>OdysseyYou Odyssey deez nuts.
>>221798204Clint eastwood, elvis, scarlett johansson. All in their prime and more greek looking.
>>221797332Yes, The Odyssey 1997 is really good
>>221798363Cyclopes in Greek mythology fell into two camps:>inbred retards who can't into farming>Genius master craftsmen, sired by Uranus (Sky) and Gaia (Earth)Because the cyclopes in the Odyssey were sired by Poseidon and a sea nymph, they're all inbred retards. His offspring aren't suited towards land anyway since the sea is inherently tempestuous; they represented uncontacted island tribes that the Greeks would colonize and civilize.So Polyphemus' brothers quite literally tell him to shut the fuck up if nobody blinded him because they're that retarded. Poseidon gets offended because all his children are that inbred and retarded. It fits.
any webms of Anne Hathaway?
It's crazy that this movie is definitely going to make over a billion dollars.
>>221798638Yep...
>>221798575An army of big guys
>>221797065>>221796809It’s the Laestrygonians but from the medieval version. Nolan used sections from Homer, Roman’s and medieval versions Basically they violate the laws of the god with the Trojan horse fake gift and kill everyone in blood lust Then they are in the land of the gods once they go out to the deep sea but you don’t realize it until 2/3s They aren’t on earth anymore. It’s the realm of the gods. So every island they find has some weird god shit going on. Everyone dies besides Oddy and he doesn’t get back to the real world until he finally pays his penance and leaves his fate in the gods hands mainly Poseidon.He only survives the entire thing because from the start he’s praying to the gods but trying to control his fate. Zeus more or less protects him from Poseidon because he listened to the gods about the cattle. So yeah the Laestrygonians moving the trees around to trap them and eat them later. It’s not bad editing but “magic. It’s hats why they are all like wtf. Also the big twist is…They are the “people from the sea” everyone is scared of
>>221798356There was a live action movie
>>221798706UUUU
>>221798638Most estimates dont go over $250m
>>221798395Oh thank God. I really want to see the modern-day jaded 105 IQ feminist's rendition of a classic masculine hero story that nobody's ever heard of on the big screen, not the actual classic masculine hero story that everyone actually gives a fuck about and knows and would realistically expect. Between that, the niggers, the troons, its quite obvious Nolan is just the name they slapped on and this is a seething kike attack on western civilization, hence the absolutely bonkers levels of artifical shillery and the botswarms on reddit eating it up despite it being blatantly obvious what's happening to anyone capable of basic reasoning (or of actually reading the Odyssey in the first place kek)
>>221798482Oh my god theyre going to love this movie. All the jump cuts, CGI, and poorly choreographed fights. Did they... did they make it look shitty on purpose just to make it look more like a Bollywood film and appeal to India?
>>221798781Dude you waste too much mental energy on hate
>>221796935I'm watching the webm and just hearing the overacted>HAAAAA>SHIII-HYAAAAAAafter every swing. It's laughable.
Knew this would be the end result when Nolan announced he was doing the OdysseyNot even a Nolan hater, but his filmmaking sensibilities are so dyed-in-the-wool now that it was inevitable we'd get this bleak, joyless, sterile piece of weary old dogshit. I bet Nolan was climbing up the walls by the end without urban cityscapes and big famous buildings and cold interiors and all that shit.Oh but he wants to make his profound statement on the history of storytelling and the masculine ego or whatever.He should stick to period dramas and/or big blockbuster modern action films where his grey concrete aesthetic can shineGod the costume designs in this film look so fucking appalling. Where's the sense of myth and place? This film looks about as Greek as the Northman. The Mediterranean is a sunny place. Why is the lighting in this film so washed out and utterly artless?I might just be the only one absolutely sick to death with every big Hollywood actor as well at this point. Matt Damon, Jon Bernthal, Anne Hathaway, Charlize Theron just bin them all. They're dogshit. Tom Holland is a goofy little dude who looks eternally like he's lemon-sucking, but not an actual actor. Zendaya has one expression and one role and even she is astounded no one's caught onto her con at this point. Robert Pattinson is a mediocre actor - his career is elevated entirely by those around him.It's the Odyssey for goodness sake. Cast some proper theatre actors. People whose every word is rich in gravitas and pathos. Anyone but Matt Damon, king of bland.Nolan could have stuck anyone in this film and sold it entirely on his name alone.
>>221798781Dude you are completely right and your mental energy is on point for calling out the subversion
this is the unanimous 10/10 movie of the decade.
>>221798638Worldwide ain't doing 700mill+ anon.Most of these people lauding the billion mark are based solely on the domestic reception and muh Imax tickets.
>>221798858>Robert Pattinson is a mediocre actor - his career is elevated entirely by those around him.Hes the best part of this movie
>>221796872>here's your beautiful goddess witch who seduces Odysseus for a year bro
>>221798884Speaks very ill of the rest of the performances then.
How badly do they water down the ending? Do Odysseus and Telemachus hang the maids that fucked the suitors like the poem or did Nolan totally cuck?
>>221798638I don't think it's be a big flop, but everyone I know cares way more about the new Spiderman rather than Nolan slop. Like, shit, most of my male friends talked about Toy Story 5 and no one's mentioned The Odyssey aside from cracks about Page.
>>221798781This review is the only honest one I've read so far. >>221798818At least that anon can back up his disappointment with specific examples from the film rather than all of the generic glazing I've seen on RT.>John Leguizamo is stunning!What about him is stunning?>I dunno, like... his performance was stunning!What about his performance was stunning?>It just fucking is stunning because i said so now shut up
>>221798887you're thinking of calypso, retardthat's circe
>>221798894Odysseus and his son are portrayed as victims of toxic masculinity who become patriarchy rapists with PTSD and self-hatred for killing the suitors and his wife is hecking terrified of him for becoming a rapist, sexist, patriarchal abuser while Telemachus has become a violent raging incel (not even joking btw, that's essentially the note the movie ends on)
>>221798939who're the big guysnever read the comics these marveslop films are based on
>>221798575This shit looks like its made for local TV broadcast.
>>221798781>I really want to see the modern-day jaded 105 IQ feminist's rendition of a classic masculine hero storyHer major gripe is that other authors called the women who were sleeping with Penelope's suitors sluts, which she claims is a mischaracterization. The literal translation of Homer's term for them is 'unclean holes'.
>>221798939Is Damon capable of doing more than 1 expression?
>>221797706>trying to be quiet in the horse so they don't get found out>take the black guy with themReally, Nolan?
>>221796813The cyclops traps them by blocking the cave with a huge boulder. They can't move the boulder themselves, so they can't afford to kill the cyclops.Even blinded, he's forced to eventually open the cave to let his flock out to graze which is when the crew make their escape.
>>221798939You guys butchered these clips to squeeze them into a minute long .webm, right? It doesn't just cut like this constantly, it can't.
Will ai even be able to fix this movie? It sounds like it needs a new script too and thats a lot more work than just swapping actors
>>221798936I honestly can't tell if you're joking or not. The actual poem ends with Odysseus taking his wife in the marital bed
>>221798981>They're not sluts, that's sexist. Call them what they are: unclean holesFucking savage
>>221799024Not joking. I buzzworded it up for the meme but the killing of the suitors is depicted as "horrifying" rather than heroic and the family are reunited but depicted as mentally scarred and traumatized for lifeIt was really like hecking auteur and mature, such a fresh take. Bravo Nolan, indeed
>>221799038No, she ommits the literal translation too.
>>221798134Movies from two decades ago had better looking ship scenes than this on half the budget, holy shit.
completely bloodless
>>221798638I heard estimates of 200m being idealistic/hopeful. Honestly I feel incredibly lucky that between mutual interest in greece and the bronze age and Dune Dune got off well enough. Like yeah, Chani's actress can just scowl and that's it, there's issues I have with it but at the end of the day it's a film I can enjoy. This is such a fucking abomination anyone impressed by it is purely doing so because of culture wars reasons or because Nolan is the designated auteur "sophisticated and mature" director. Have the exact same film, no changes but have another director attributed to it and it would be panned as an epic disaster.>>221798395The introduction I saw Wilson do for the Odyssey reminded me of the Atlantic article about us being in a post-literate world. It so perfectly captures the dumbing down simplification of prose. It reads like a fucking high school student having to haltingly and without cadence and rhythm you KNOW FUCKING POETRY recite shakespear.And the audacity, the sheer fucking hubris of Wilson going >Um achsaully we just think the Greeks did it in a shakespearian fashion and in 400 years of English translations all the other (old white males - and masochistic Lawrence I guess) translators got it wrong but me I got it right my novel interpretation that the Greeks meant it in a more laconic prosaic than POETIC fashion is correct.
>>221798919it's had so much marketing, everybody must know about it and that it's a nolan movie, all it needs to eek out a profit is people with nothing else to do for the night
>>221797658Those “Lemme tell ya sumthin Telemachus” posts were supposed to be just memes!
>>221798134Do these forests that are so bereft of groundcover actually exist in the wild? I've seen something like this on the land my aunt and uncle rent out to some pine farm, but the natural pine forest they live next to isn't nearly this clear. It really throws me off whenever I see them just walking around on the forest floor and there's not a single damn thing around them.
>>221798939That's a lot of big guys.
>The actual foundational text of Western Civilization along with the Iliad>More important than the Bible to Europeans>Cast a troon as a man>Cast a sub-saharan African as the most beautiful blonde woman ever>Make a total mockery of the Western soulThis is cultural vandalism at an unprecented scale, I know it's fun to make fun of shit movies like this but the fact that it even exists is proof that civilization is dead and the people eating at its carcass only care about mocking it and you
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>>221798482I'm imagining the indian audience scratching their heads and going>but we saw matt damon stab his eye out, how could nobody do it? it not make senseand having a hearty chuckle.
I don't see why anyone would want to watch this movie more than once. Movie critics are absolutely delusional.
>>221799136Seeing Wilson get shilled as the first female translator of the Odyssey when Anne Dacier did it in 1716 will never not make me mad. Also just a general victim narrative when every classics department is pretty much 50-50 or more female.
>>221799066Genuinely 10,000x worse than the humiliation ritual castings and horrendous production design, I could forgive everything if it got the spirit of the poem right but holy fuck. Odysseus massacring the suitors and the whores is supposed to be the climax and a heroic moment, fucking disgusting betrayal of archaic Greek culture to make it some neutered shit
>>221798781The Odyssey isn't a masculine hero story, that's the point.Odysseus is blown of course because his Trojan Horse offended Poseidon.Then his ships and crews are decimated because he defends himself against the man-eating cyclops after it's murdered and devoured a half dozen of his crewmen. Because the cyclops is a son of Poseidon and cries to daddy for vengeance.It's a story of the cruelty and caprice of the Greek gods, and the hapless perseverance of a man whose only motivation is to return to his loving wife. It's an enduring story not because Odysseus is manly and powerful, but because you can see how he suffers, how he fails at every step of the journey, and how his ordinary human limitations undermine him. At the end of his travels, he has nothing. He washes ashore naked from a shipwreck and has to beg the denizens of a foreign island to help him, and it's his recounting of the harrowing story that convinces them to bring him back to his home.Feminists trying to make the Odyssey about gender would be like Americans trying to make Islam about Jews.
>>221799235If people are trying to murder your son and steal your kingdom and have sex with your wife and live in your house for like 10 years you should just forgive them o algo
>>221798935Circe IS the beautiful goddess who seduces Odysseus for 1 year. She does end up being genuinely helpful after Hermes instructs Odysseus regarding using Moly and just letting Circe have sex with him.Calypso is the beautiful nymph who forces Odysseus to be her sex slave for 7 years while he's constantly crying about it.Nolan chose to go with a "feminist retelling" interpretation of Circe where she's a traumatized abuse victim instead of "baleful minded" and pulling her shit for the love of the game.
>>221799174The Trojans were assholes who got what was coming to them. Fuck Priam, Fuck Paris, and Fuck HECTOOOOOR!
>>221796842very low energy battle scene
This movie has to be satire.
>>221797960Which game of thrones episode is this?
>>221799261>It's an enduring story not because Odysseus is manly and powerfulLiterally every obstacle in the story is surmounted by either extreme violence or deception. Along with the Iliad the Odyseey is basically the Bible for the Ancient Greeks and was responsible for transmitting their morals which are extremely alien to us today>Americans trying to make Islam about Jews.Islam is a jewish sect just like Christianity
>>221799136>my novel interpretation that the Greeks meant it in a more laconic prosaic than POETIC fashion is correct.It really is hilarious when you look at the comparisons side by side and realize that Wilson had to absolutely butcher the prose all because of her obsession with Iambic pentameter.She literally can't use too many big words because otherwise her lines won't fit into her self-imposed 10-syllable restriction. Hence why we get "wrecked the holy town of Troy" instead of "plundered the hallowed heights of Troy" because it's too many syllables.Hell, she can't even call it a "city" because that's one too many syllables for the line. She's fucking retarded.
>>221798575me on the right
>>221799353New 28 Days Later sequel's looking good!
>>221796842>Literally see a tree moving
>>221799262They know that the suitors and the maids could easily be migrants/politicians/journalists, naturally the ending has to be about how it's bad to seek vengeance for the attempted destruction of your kingdom and stealing of your wife and your son's inheritance
>>221796853what is the point of filmmaking if it's all low quality diversity slop for token awards
>>221799334
Why didnt Odysseus stay on that island of hebes?
>>221797658>the best looking girl in the world>the face that launched 1000 shipsahahahaha
>>221799327>Just casually walk by dangerous predators that aren't even chained upAs you do
>>221798935>>221798935No, Odysseus literally gets forced into a sexual relationship with two deities in the Odyssey. With Calypso, it's literally in the text that he's raped (the Greeks didn't view it that way necessarily, since it was more about a woman controlling a man, but he's literally a sex slave).Circe's is muddier, but it's stated it was more of a consensual thing. His men have to drag him away from Circe by the end of the year. She's supposed to be hot as FUCK.
I saw the film in imax today. All the webms in this thread are real.
>>221798134>dramatic scene in a storm, he has to replace a rower who collapsed>abrupt cut to after the storm, boat already beached on an islandWhy bother with the storm scene if you don't do anything with it? Where's the resolution? You have the tension of surviving the storm and then immediately skip over it.
>>221799404Based. BTFO that incel faggot!
>>221799136>If I stray grievously about the coasts of men, will you return home?>It's a vain hope ->You're a various-minded man>For them!bravo nolan
>>221799443Faggot.
>>221799386Moldbug talks about this
>>221799008Nolan got high on his own supply man.
>>221796827Who are these giganiggas even supposed to be?
>>221799310I don't get why you're all acting shocked that the movie is really made like this. It's like you've all never seen a Nolan movie before. This is literally all of them. You were so fixated on the trannies and niggers that you forgot what kind of director he is
What's going on with the bigguys where they all look like some ai animation?
>>221799107>Christopher come on, just make it PG-13 so we can get some teenagers in here, we're trying to make some of this inflated budget back at the box off->NO, I am a SERIOUS director and a SERIOUS man and SERIOUS directors like me make SERIOUS R-rated movies for grown-ups!>Did you see how SERIOUS I made Batman look?>Look how DARK I made this movie it's so SERIOUS and DARK that you have to squint the whole time because you can barely see>I am a REALLY fucking SERIOUS fucking director and I will have my actors say FUCK multiple times so that teenagers cannot come in and make fun of my SERIOUS movie while BUSY SMART GROWN-UPS LIKE ME eat popcorn and nod approvinglyI think Nolan is just three kids in a trenchcoat on each other's shoulders trying way too hard to make it look like theyre definitely not three kids in a trenchcoat.
>>221799286>adaptation of The Odyssey makes Gladiator and fucking Troy look like masterpieces in comparison
>>221799262>>221799386I don't know what that guy is talking about. The killing of the suitors is a heroic moment.
>>221799136Just admit that you don't understand what Wilson is trying to do.
>>221796654Man, ancient Greece has many more Asians than I previously thought
I love this movie because Im a big chad like the big guys in this movie. Only incels hate this movie because most of them are unkempt manlet whos afraid of talking to women
>>221799327Why are you posting Tiger King clips in the Odyssey thread?
>>221799534In the movie? So it's not different from the poem at all?
>>221799261Your interpretation is just as post modern (wrong) as Wilson's
>>221799334Ignore that posterOdysseus is clearly a traditionally masculine heroForbearance, paternal/family values and honour, feats of cunning, skill, and strength etc.Nolan clearly scrutinised the text and applied a modernistic literate lens to it. I'm sure he could have made a souped-up version of the Armand Assante film replete with a funny flying Hermes, but Nolan is far cerebral and dour to do such a thing. That's of course why he casted Spiderman and Frownwoman, Maskusummin, and Travis Scott in the film.
>>221798939it's so fucking bad>the camera work>the "big guys" swinging like they are in molasses>the lightingawful.
>>221799545It's incredibly clear that she was trying to reinvent the wheel because she thought she knew better than everyone else.>>221799360
>>221796842Did he punch that guy in the balls?
>>221798939i cannot get over how lazily damon shoots the bow in every single scene he uses it.
>>221796827>We want the Obsession audience.
>>221799261>It's a story of the cruelty and caprice of the Greek godsThat's not true at all. It is a story of Odysseus's hubris fucking him over when he taunts the cyclops he just tricks by revealing his own name. Hubris is an extremely common motif in Greek tragedies, and while you are meant to sympathize and root for Odysseus, the audience also is meant to know full well that Odysseus made a mistake and owns everything that follows. He's a tragic hero because Greeks ate that shit up.
can that retard matt damon do any expressions other than expressionless dude from jason bourne
>>221799562Yes, in the movie. Obviously there are some differences, but not as drastic as that anon is implying. Odysseus and Telemachus killing the suitors is portrayed as heroic. Of all the themes of the original poem, the theme of guest right and being a good host/good guest (xenia) is the one the film leans into most heavily.
Will normalfags finally wake up, or will they pretend Nolan's "lost it"?
>>221799436>the face that launched 1000 SHEEEEEEEEITs
>>221799463Good work
>>221797997the whole movie is edited this way
>>221799624You are the normal fag. Faggot
Is Nolan unironically /ourguy/? He's trying to give us something to meme about for the next decade. Will this be the end of baneposting?
>>221797960>Alright lads, I say we burn the horse.>*Odysseus in falsetto* I say we put it in our city and go to sleep!
>>221799624People memoryholed Dark Knight Rises I guess. I dunno why he ended up an action director when he can't direct action.
>>221796654>Perhaps he's wondering why a man carrying a sword would stab someone's eye out with a big stick
We're at 1:11:35 guys, someone else gotta pick up webm duty. TTYL, I'll be back in ten (fünf) hours.
>>221798311Athena is the easiest one, considering she can be just a woman who appears from time to time talking to the heroes. No wonder Nolan had no problem in depicting her in human form despite being too much of a coward to depict other gods.I know that, if I was directing The Iliad, at the very least Athena, Ares and Aphrodite would appear in human form with real actors at least once.
>>221799614Matt Damon.
>>221799670I guess I touched a nerve
Would prime ellen paige be a good helen?
>>221799624
>>221799441>Circe's is muddier, but it's stated it was more of a consensual thing.With Circe, the first time Odysseus has sex with her it's by following Hermes' instructions. But he does stay with her for one full year later and surely had sex more times, so it might have been consensual then.Agree on Calypso. Anyway neither of those women were "victims".
>>221799735Hard to argue with grilled cheese tho
>>221799624>>221799735Nolan's films are really more like McDonalds. They're tasty and you always know what you're getting.
"I'll be of use, sir."
Nolan is a fucking hack
>>221799545The funny thing is you can't even levy the >Wilson knows Greek, do you?Because all the old white men she thinks herself superior to also knew Greek - and didn't have modern day technologies as a crutch for translation either. Despite knowing Greek they were wrong and she alone is right. Wilson's motivations are just iambic fetishism and pure ideology, which is why she's such a cause celebre and you won't get any more (you) from me.>>221799675Like someone said in another thread you could hire a buncha goobers on /tv/ to make a fantastic monty python life of brian tier Odyssey. Seth McFarlane could pull off a better Odyssey as some hour long family guy special than Nolan's trash.
>>221799768>You know what you're getting, but sometimes they fuck it up and the fries are all soggy because they didn't cook them long enough (the CGI)>or the burger's falling apart in the packaging because they didn't give a fuck when making it (the acting)>also half the time they forget your sauce for the nuggets (the editing)
>>221799812That's Burger King.McDonalds is high quality.
Nolan is doing a humiliation ritual where he normalizes absolute garbage and is awarded for said garbage.>the winner for best original song is>MUMBLE RAP GUY IN THE ODYSSEY
>>221799769lmao based Nolan
>>221799769there is no fucking way, wtf is this shit
>>221799066This is false. I just watched the movie. The sacking of Troy is depicted as horror, killing the suiters was depicted as heroic. Wtf are you smoking retard
>>221799769>troon stabbed in the chest where their top scars would beBRAVO NOLAN
Why didn't Matt Damon just swim back to the Shire?
>>221796842is this real? this shit literally looks like Monty Python, and why is that tree moving? is this entire movie fucking AI? I'm genuinely, actually confused.
>>221799883>NI NI NI NI NI NI!
>>221798514The reason you are inherently suspicious of such a thing is because of this very story.
>>221799534>>221799615>>221799857Damage control has arrived, right on time.Explain how it's depicted heroically.
>>221799911>the suitors are all bad people>odysseus deceives them and kills themI genuinely don't know how you could watch the film and come away with the conclusion that the suitors are heroic and that their deaths are unjust.
>>221796872This transformation actually looks the most visually creative shit Nolan ever got to do in his entire career.
>>221799911Because that's what it is. There is literally nothing to suggest this narrative you are spinning. You might just be retarded.
They deserved everything that happened to them for doing what they did to Troy, even this shit adaptation
>>221799911You shouldn't troll on 4chan, btw.The person you're talking to might be a god.
>>221799769directors cut:
>>221797230>>221797274>>221797369>>221797322>>221797424Are you guys actually retarded? It's magic, the trees appear suddenly around them so they're trapped
>>221799948>>221799962>directed like a horror film>"bloodiest" part of movie>wife is depicted in abject terror>Odysseus depicted with PTSD and trauma at the end, never beds wife, who is now afraid/cautious of him>son is now angry incel who is implied to have a violent future Cmon now. Anything else you want to refute? We can get a cut of it here real quick if you want to go that route.
>>221800001ok you didnt wat the film0/10 bait
>>221800001>wife is depicted in abject terrorShe triumphantly abandons Mia Goth's character to be killed by Odysseus. >Odysseus depicted with PTSD and trauma at the endThis is from Troy. Odysseus reclaiming his home from the suitors then leaving with his wife in exile is meant to be his redemption/overcoming the trauma from Troy>son is now angry incel who is implied to have a violent futurewdym he becomes kingOff by 1 for your trolling
>>221800017nta but we literally have it for free you fucking stupid nigger. Prove him wrong and post the suitor slaughter unless you're a shitass viral marketer. We're not paying for this trash.
>>221799769This is AI right?
the "most beautiful woman in the world" vs ana de armas:
>>221798866>>221798818report these AI nigger bots
>Yeah I raceswapped a bunch of characters>okay I might have changed some of the story a little>added some new stuff>skipped over some of the boring parts here and there>But like, it's basically still The Odyssey
Don't forget, Nolan is the guy who made TDKR
>>221800115Left trad black beauty. Right columbian whore
>>221800143They've been doing stuff like this since ancient Greeks.
>>221800073>we have it for free>my claim doesn't require evidence but yours does>I just said we have it for free but I'm not paying for itThe movie speaks for itself, you can't even be coherent for a single post.
>>221798134Matt Damon was a mistake. STILL NO FUCKING SEA BEASTS
>>221799615>xeniaBut doesn't resolve the slaughter of the suitors at all. Whole movie is about getting PTSD for defying xenia, does it again at the end anyway lol
>>221800073If you want to know who's right A) look at who's shilling this movie B) pay attention to how Emily Wilson "reinterpreted" the Odyssey which is what Nolan was actually taking from (see pic attached)
>>221800192OH NO NO NO ODYSSEY CHUDS HOW DO WE CONVINCE THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY HE'S TOTALLY THE HERO OF THIS STORY STILL???
>>221799769E DUN KIRKED IS EAD?
>>221800176>trad>beautyLol. Lmao even
>>221800192>Computer, generate me an image of the least delightful woman on the planet
>>221799404>>221799459>OMG FELLOW REDDITOR HECKEN LE BASEDkill yourself faggot you will never belong here
>>221799174Whys Athena scowling at him?These interactions wouldve been more convincing if she gave him head in the first scene
>>221800253World would be such a better place if all Black people were forced to live on Mars.
The writer in the Time article about the Odyssey called their helmets Marvin the Martian helmets, she absolutely nailed their stupidity.
>>221800192AWFLs have ruined the world
>>221800253honestly looks like she should be getting thrown on the ground by a cop while screaming Idedunuffin and waving around a broken obama phone
>>221800325You misinterpreted the clip. Zendaya was actually performing a broad variety of emotional responses.
>>221799327Why is Circe terrified to see a man
>>221800191The suitors violated xenia first by abusing his hospitality and trying to kill his son.
also looks like she smells like pure grease and shit
>>221799327Do none of these morons carry a shield?
>>221800361This. Athena is clearly depicted as full of life and expression if you actually watch the film>>221800325There is literally nothing to suggest this narrative you are spinning. You might just be retarded.
>>221796842Who let the guy who directed the action for Dark Knight Rises direct the fucking Odyssey?
I don't think it even deserves a 1/10
its funny how bad movies are now, just kill the rest of them with AI and be done with it. the era of the LOTR trilogy is dead.
>>221797781Lmfao! For weeks blind shills have been trying to gas light us into thinking she's attractive.
>>221798575why was he yelling and running away?
>>221800410lmao bot cant even get his responses right
just tried watching this tripe. WTF is the lighting and sound so terrible? The script is bad enough to only get 2 stars.
None of you in this thread can judge a movie by webm clips from a shitty cam rip. That’s not how a movie is meant to be experienced. It’s like watching an opera while deaf and with one eye closed
>>221799261>The Odyssey isn't a masculine hero story, that's the point.what the fuck am I readingshall we describe Odysseus?>that kingly man, master mariner and soldier>the man with massive hands who out-threw all the Phaiakians, and offered to take on all comers at any sport except running, because his time at sea ruined his conditioning>greatest in the world with a bow of all men who eat bread upon the earth>greatest in plotting and storytelling among mortals>the man who had the heart to endure everything to return to his family and set his house in order>the man referred to more than once as a lion, finally and quite fittingly when covered in the gore of the suitors he'd just slainwere he not hypermasculine, he could not have achieved glory
>>221796809>>221796827>>221796842this is the stunning cinematic masterpiece critics are unanimously praising?
>>221800653https://gofile.io/d/U8BxsO
>Helen of Troy is mid-40s Kenyan woman whose cunts is infested with fibroids
>>221799353Paris, you made the right choice, my boy (but then again, won’t be surprised if Nolan‘s Aphrodite is even worse)
what will future generations say of this beyond terrible era of film (2018-present) ?
>>221799769Thank goodness, he was about to cut her tit's off, I'm glad he was stopped.
>>221797658Fine European stock in this film.
>>221800653No amount of spectacle or scale associated with viewing this in IMAX is going to fix the glaring issues which can be seen here. I'm astonished how much Nolan is getting worse over time in terms of his indulgence in all the retarded shit people tolerated in his films over the years. People liked his works in spite of all the dumb shit he did, not because of it. And this movie seems to be a greatest hits of all the groan inducing bullshit from all his previous films.
>>221798980The made for tv ones were far better than this shit.
>>221800761A bunch of moronic chuds pissed their pants while everyone else enjoyed kino.
primewireDOTpw/movie/1532883-the-odysseyITS UP
>>221797781
the eternal /ourguy/ Pageau likes it. He has an IQ in the 140-145 range and busts subversive propaganda all the time so his praise for nolan's storytelling means it's going to filter most /tv/irgins
how is Nolan only good at making laughably bad shit
A PC game released in 2002 had a better rendition of Odysseus and the Trojan war than this movie didAge of Mythology was such a based game
>>221800761they will say film died after return of the king's credits ended.
>>221800841lmao, why are you so hung up about some fantasy slop movie?
>>221800706Calypso and Circe are played by two 50 year old women
>>221800853i think that's my line
>>221800853would you rather have LOTR or Nolan troonslop and capeshit?
>>221800916Nolan actually makes intellectual films.
>>221798939Which of the big guys is he even shooting at to begin with? Who is he trying to save?
>>221800923you need to have a high IQ to understand "you're a big guy"..."for you"also, travis scott mumble rap in greek myth times, truly an artist
>>221800945What's wrong with rap? You have no answer to this, because you're a cretin who only wants to see wizards and elves and dwarves for the ten thousandth time.
>>221798638Billion rupees should be their goal.
>>221800963why dont we just put tiktok memes in the iliadwhy not add Achilles saying "six sevennnn"
>>221800923No he does not. He makes movies that present themselves as intellectual but actually aren’t. There’s no deep philosophical agenda to the Joker or Inception. He’s just a crazy clown who says clever things to make the audience think he’s a genius. And Inception is just about making movies. That is the trick Nolan plays.
>>221800761Yeah all that kino hollywood was producing from the late 90s-2018 and then it abruply stopped. 2017 was such a great year for movies, like Boss Baby.
>>221801015Rap is a respected musical genre, it is not comparable to "tiktok memes". Again, you're a cretin with no argument.
>>221801032respected by who? the dregs of society?
>>221801047You should go back to /co/ where manchildren like you belong.
>I am a man now Mom.Can this movie be at least watchable for ONE FUCKING MINUTEHoly shit I'm three and a half minutes in.
>>221800761>2018-presentmore like 2009-present
*taps glass**AHEM*Would any of you shill NIGGERS explain to me why I would ever watch your clickbait videos or pro reviews when I'm sitting and watching the camrip for free right now?
>>221799174>Ranjeet, I am ceo of this ship
>>221801032muh dik uhh my dik nigga uhh
>>221800831Prostagma
do any reviewers feel any shame when they rate this shit as high as citizen kane or the godfather or whatever
>>221801169Isvolee!
>>221796738They didn't kill that cyclops nigga in the movie, he mogged their asses pretty hard, just watched it a couple hours ago in IMAX.
>>221800580This movie really did highlight how genuinely bad of an actors both Zendaya and Holland are. They literally have one expression across all movies, and this one isn't an exception.
>>221801032>I'm a fuckin genius look at my fuckin penis Homer, probably
>>221798939>Not our resident street shitter!
>>221797040>What was the budget on this film? Why does it look like a highschool play?Coping hard if you don't think they spent $250+ million on production watching it in IMAX.
>>221799068Seething femoid.Odysseus had the sluts clean up the suitors bodies, then had them hanged! A fitting end for unclean females, I say!
>>221800923>Nolan actually makes intellectual films.And he calls someone “a cretin”, lmao
>>221800923nolan is one of the dumbest tasteless retards to ever have picked up a film camerabut this is a bait post and you baited me into replying so 8/8
>>221801463inaccuratehe tasked Telemachus with putting them to the sword, but Telemachus felt that such a clean manner of death, the sort that would be given to beasts, was too good for them
>>221800791while dumbfucks paid to watch slop & fund jew cokehead producers
>>221801055You listen to rap.WHo da fuck you calling a manchild?
>>221800963>What's wrong with rap? You have no answer to thisglorifies:violencecrimedemeaning of womenmoney & power over anything elseand helps perpetuate the neverending cycle of poverty/crime currently hitting so many black communities
>>221799165nolan has no idea what a real forest looks like, have you seen his other movies?
>>221796853I made the /WSG/ thread for the better video and sound>>>/wsg/6196598
>>221796842Why are the Cylons there?
>>221802278>All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again
>>221802515Fuck Lee Adama.
