Why would you blow up your multi billion dollar movie franchise just because one actor got beat by his drunk ex girlfriend?
Like they cared. That whole debacle was just a footnote in how they make this trash
Why the fuck did they think "Kang" was the horse to back anyway? They should have just ignored foreshadowing bullshit to give people a break and just done secret wars or something
Probably the best thing that happened to Disney.
>>222133536It was the peak Woke era and the lunatics on Twitter still ran the world. Disney Marvel was so sure normies gave a shit since thats what Twitter was virtue signaling about. Turns out it was a retarded as fuck decision that ended up costing them more money in the long run.
they wanted to replace kang after ant man failed, him beating up his gf gave them an easy out
>>222133645He was going to be the "Ultron" of the new shit. The "middle villain while we keep building out the story". It was always going to be Dr. Doom, they just skipped the whole 2nd half, because of covid, writer's strikes, actor's strikes, NYC's bullshit ruling on the Jonathan Majors case, etc.Like OP said, they fucked up big time.
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>>222133536>WE WUZ KANGZ as the villains>along with his corny variants from Quantumania>the Baby Avengers were going to have major roles>No Fantastic Four>They originally wanted Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars be released in the SAME YEAR (2025)It would be a disaster bigger than Rise of Skywalker
>OP defends a zesty nig
>>222133693You wrote this like the wokedissey isn't about to make a billion
>>222133693>wokeOpinion discarded
>>222134876u lost, tranny
>>222133536Well, wasn't his performance shit to begin with?
>>222134876Go woke go broke>>222134509The 3 hour movie that kept the nigger and tranny to a minimum of less than 5 mins of screentime? I'm glad its going to make a billion.
>>222133645>Why the fuck did they think "Kang" was the horse to back anyway? They should have just ignored foreshadowing bullshit to give people a break and just done secret wars or somethingArrogance. Pure arrogance.When Marvel first started, they were extremely humble and lovingly adapted the comic book stories. But today you can see in interviews they've grown cocky and think Marvel will always make money. they even hire people who say in interviews, "I don't read the comics and hire writers who are not comic fans." This is the result.
>>222133536that entire phase was a dumpster fire, kang looked incredibly stupid being played by majors, antman turned to absolute slop and they wasted modok by turning him into a corny cartoon version of the character, on top of it being peak woke marvel, even if it went forward it would have been universe ending cringemajors did them a favor, sad to say because i really want this crap to die for going full gay race communist reddit subversion for the last seven years
>>222133536Unironically making Kang a black buck was a mistake and I am speaking from a financial aspect, not personal. They needed a Tom Hiddleston type of guy for Kang.
>>222135915What's funny is they learned their lesson YEARS ago but they still had to play out all the contracts and all the mid-production shitty TV shows. They're ALMOST out of that phase of nonsense, but it's also almost guaranteed they'll load up on a new batch of retardation, too. I thought Kang and his several variations that hit the screen were awesome. I'm still pissed about how dirty they did Majors, and I'm willing to bet in 5-10 yeras they bring him back. Maybe not as a super villain but as some kind of "pop in here and there cameo character".
>>222133536I recently watched Loki and Majors was fucking awful in season 2. The MCU dodged a bullet. At least we won't have to look at his big ugly nose and lips. Not racist, just don't like 'im.
>>222136048>antman turned to absolute slopRudd wasn't even able to sell tickets to Ant-Man, let alone a big Avengers flick. His goofy-dad schtick was not what comic movie goers were into.
>>222136177You're a fucking dumb ass.
>>222136197Was doubtful at first, but at the end of season 1 I thought "Hmm, maybe he can work." Then he had more opportunity to act in season 2 and we got... that.
>>222135834Like clockwork, you're now at the part in which you pretend it was actually an epic tradpilled movie all along
>>222136237you can tell he was supposed to take Tony's place but they or Rudd himself didn't understand the mission, they had everything setup for him to be the scientist leader ya know with michael douglas as the mentor without the playboy lifestyle or they self sabotaged the character to push more diversity subversion, not that Rudd could have pulled it off anyways
>>222136286He wasn't bad as Kang but his performance as the nutty professor is S2 was embarrassing. After the Marvel execs saw that, they probably bribed his girlfriend to have a messy fight with him so they'd have an excuse to fire him.
>>222133536They were probably high-fiving in the board rooms when they heard about what he did. A free way out from their failing universe caused by releasing a torrent of shitty tv shows and teasing 50 new characters no one cared about. Turns out people just wanted more RDJ and Chris Evans and they'll probably make 100 billy with their next two movies.
>>222133536post the ear
>>222136370>they had everything setup for him to be the scientist leaderHe installs home security devices, he doesn't even have the first clue of the science behind his own powers. He's a dimwit who can hotwire a car if it's not too modern.
>>222136264good argument!
>>222133536Assaulting your girlfriend and then running away down the street like a bitch after tends to rub audiences the wrong way. Then when it turns out you have a history of bouncing your gfs heads off the floor it makes it even worse. So you drop the black guy, pivot the entire franchise hoping to still make money
>>222136579It's amazing that groups will have candidates to become the face of a movie franchise or political effort, and be ready to spend 10's of millions at them, but can't do a half decent job of vetting said people. And with the internet, it's not even HARD. People will post their id/malfeasance on the interwebs THEMSELVES, you don't have to be Columbo.
>>222136431that's why he had michael douglas there to teach him, but they fucked it up, now they've been stuck with Rudd and Ruffalo and seven years of floundering in the dark and nothing cool to point back at during those seven years
>>222136579>>222136854>vettingWho cares? Their job is dressing up and dancing for my amusement, not dating my daughter. Cancel culture is bullshit
>>222136916Yeah, he's going to teach a middle aged thief with some electronics background how to use quantum particles. Uh Huh. And that will make him the big brain.
>>222137076The job of an actor or politician is P.R. for your Big Idea.Them not being a psychopath or degenerate is generally important for that process, though 47 is poking some holes in that theory.
>>222137090unironically yes
>>222137170I mean he can show him how to push the button that makes him smoll, but he's not going to instruct him on Quantum theory or particle physics in any sort of useful time frame.Whereas Tony Stark is a genius in at least 10 different fields.
>>222137274would have made for a great montage, that's just jewish plot armor for tony
>>222133536I'd much rather they recast the kang actor than whatever the hell they're doing right now. They set the mcu up for kang, and then now they just drop everything and shove doom in. Like it's so messy and inconsistent. Are we supposed to pretend kang doesn't exist anymore?
>>222137366Yes, you're suppose to forget all about Kang. Also lets be real, even if they recast him you'd have people asking "Isn't that the guy that beat up his gf?"
>>222137338Tony is the son of a genius, grew up immersed in genius STEM world with all his Dad's STEM genius friends, had a billionaire's access to geniuses around the world and whatever science shit he needed, and that's not even getting into his family's connections and access to government secrets.Scott is this above average dude who got good at disabling conventional security systems, then formed a company with loveable ex-crooks to build security systems.
>>222137366>>222137462Lets be honest, 99.9% of time-travel plots are annoying, illogical garbage. They only got into this whole parallel world shit because their importance franchises were scattered across multiple studios they were busy buying/forming partnerships with.
>>222137487None of that was shown on screen for Tony, that's you pulling from other media and being super autistic about thisTony has just enough brain power to choose what lifts he wants to shine and wear each day
>>222137628He literally grows up designing cool toys for the Military Industrial Complex that's run by his Dad's industrial buddy. He's kidnapped because he's a linchpin of Stark Industries worldwide arms company. He has a Captain America shield prototype and access to studies gleaned from the US government's acquisition of Hydra technology and a fucking tesseract/space gem.Sorry, but your obtuse pedantry is of no use in this argument.
>>222137827ackshually that's all done by jarvis
They gave THANOS a slow Ming the Merciless buildup intro.The problem of BADGUY OF THE WEEK isn't one of dramatic entrance so much as... "what's getting broken NOW!?!" Plotting per catastrophe. It's basic rubber monster suit pantomime rules 101. The persistent bad guy retreats unharmed for the next attack, the immediate threat rubber monster suit gets firecrackered today.But Disney doesn't have a clock they can afford to run out anymore. Brand recognition, but zero trust in competency or quality by the audiences. Flash Gordon - I like to play with things a while... before annihilation (Ming, Klytus & the Earth) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_QC7uMo1uPQDr. Hans Zarkov: We are only interested in friendship. Why do you attack us?The Emperor Ming: Why not? Pathetic earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void, without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe, anything at all, you would've hidden from it in terror.The Emperor Ming: Every thousand years, I test each life system in the Universe. I visit it with mysteries, earthquakes, unpredicted eclipses, strange craters in the wilderness... If these are taken as natural, I judge that system ignorant and harmless - I spare it. But if the Hand of Ming is recognized in these events, I judge that system dangerous to us. I call upon the great god Dyzan, and for his greater glory...[leans forward, smiling]The Emperor Ming: ... and for our mutual pleasure...[leans back again]The Emperor Ming: ... I destroy it utterly.Doctor Hans Zarkov: You're saying... it's my fault the Earth is being destroyed?The Emperor Ming: [grinning] Precisely... Doctor!
>>222133536Combination of what others have said, it was probably the worst time in the history of the world to have allegations like that come out about you. Disney's hands were tied, but also the fact that I think his villainy just kind of didn't land, as a concept and him in general. I don't know how much of that was general capeshit fatigue that he ended up being a scapegoat for, but as you can see with Doomsday theyve had to break basically every single 'in case of emergency' contingency they had for this and Kang and Majors just wasn't enough of a draw
>>222134509Gonna run this into the ground, loon troon
>>222137462No, recast as in choose another actor to play Kang. They did this with war machine, hulk and thanos, so it's not like it matters
>>222137868The actor fucked up but the character wasn't compelling enough anyway and they needed the meme power of Doom
>>222133710Killing off Kang and MODOK was dumb. They set up the new villains and defeated them and then said "lol multiverse, there's more!" and the movie felt like a waste.
>>222137854I just don't think anyone was looking forward to more Time Shenanigans post Endgame.And they already had a confusing "Parallel Universes" thing cooking, adding divergent timelines on top of that was doubly confusing.Is this guy from another dimension or another timeline?All of it had some pretty inconsistent logic behind it. Having both was a mistake.
>>222133536Kang getting canceled literally saved Disney/MCU from a bazillion dollar loss because viewers weren't going to watch an ugly Black guy who can't act, for multiple productions.
Still though, it would've been hilarious if Kang had stuck around as the next big villain. Just think about it, you guys.1) Every Avengers movie has had a generic faceless army for the heroes to fight (the Chitauri, the Ultron drones, the Outriders, the Chitauri AND the Outriders).2) There were so many variants of Kang that weaker variants probably would've been the movie's generic faceless army.3) Disney and Marvel went out of their way to confirm that every variant of Kang throughout the multiverse was Jonathan Majors.We could've had the Avengers beating the shit out of tons of black guys. Imagine Disney dealing with THAT controversy.
>>222137854>in case of emergencyWhat's the point? Everyone got turn off by all those mutt movies and disney shows.
>>222133536Didn't care about this guy til i watched Magazine Dreams. Now I actually think it's a shame his career was ruined because of that bitch. He's actually a great actor
>>222139140SAAAAAAR!
>>222133645They were trying to re-do the Infinity saga with a big bad guy. Kang was a good pick, it was just handled really poorly. The real problem wasn't Kang, he's a fine villain, they just should have pivoted from the whole Avengers thing, they were never going to recapture the hype of the Infinity saga. Should have gone straight into Mutants and X-Men, and/or branched off into more cosmic and supernatural stuff. Which it seems like they're going to do all that after Secret Wars, but it's too late.
Jonathan Majors was awful as Kang anyway, He Who Remains was fine but every variant he did afterwards was cringe as fuck. He couldn't have carried the Kang Dynasty, Disney was probably happy they got an excuse to fire him. Kang could have worked, but they needed a different actor. Hell, they even still could have recast him after Loki because it was established that variants could be played by different actors and not a lot of people watch the tv shows anyway, but when they made every Kang variant in Quantumania be Majors they really backed themselves into a corner. Whoever was the casting director for Majors should have been fired too, maybe they were.
>>222139009>3) Disney and Marvel went out of their way to confirm that every variant of Kang throughout the multiverse was Jonathan Majors.>We could've had the Avengers beating the shit out of tons of black guys. Imagine Disney dealing with THAT controversyI do agree, that would be good humor.The big problem with KANG as a villain is his powerset, "Time Stop", "Fight Lost Rewind", "Time Hopping to points before the fight begins". It's basic immobilization powers plus his generic soldiers from the future either have "so far ahead you cannot counter attacks" weaponry or a diminishing set of tools that get broke every battle.Or in simpler terms, VILLAIN DECAY. Every super baddie gets reduced to "Generic Bad Guy Type #5". In order for KANG to be a threat, he basically has to be a JoJo villain like DIO to allow a meager chance of winning, but with full time jump abilities, he could kill each hero in their cribs or zap the sperms in their dad's balls before the superhero was born to be impotent.IF YOU COMPETENTLY COUNTER "Time Travel Attacks" you either introduce a one-off Time Fighter guy that acts as a foil to Kang's goals or go thd CHALLENGE OF THE SUPERFRIENDS cartoon route and give basically every hero an innate or easily accessed Time Travel / Dimension Jumping ability. With the best case scenario, eliminating KANG before he even thinks of attacking, creating a "it was all a dream" unsatisfactory plotline.
>>222133536I just like the blue logo more than the green oine.
