the song of ice and fire editionprev >>222144286
i want to see the first long night and destruction of the moon
People vindicated by the Play leaks:>Bobby B (aside the embarassing THE TIDE stuff)>Ned>Cat>Jon Connington>Tywin>Cersei>Littlefinger/CIA>Aerys>Daemon Blackfyre>Jon Snow (confirmed as the least insane Targ)>Darkstar (now the least embarassing Dayne)>Gregor Clegane>Mirri Maz Duur>Alicent (her line would had never caused such a nonsense madness)>Apple Boy, Ormund Hightower, Lyonel Baratheon (show canon only)People whose reputation was destroyed by the Play leaks:>Lyanna>Rhaegar>Azshara>Arthur>Rhaella >All the dornishmen scum, Elia above all>Dany>Brandon>Jaime>Barristan >Rhaenyra (her line is at fault for all this nonsense madness)>Every in-universe and IRL Targ fanboyAnyone else missing?
>ywn get Ned and LF bonding while drinking, Ned giving LF an infinite list of reasons to hate Brandon Stark even more>ywn get Ned and LF working together to purge all those unworthy of power, a 2nd son and lowly lord making Westeros a better placeit's not fair bros...
>>222148051>RhaellaRhaella is based
Ned didnt give a fuck about Ashara. You cucks need to stop self inserting. Ned isnt like you.
>>222148051>>Bobby B (aside the embarassing THE TIDE stuff)And losing to Rhaegar who ran off with his betrothed consensually?
Opinions about this nice bunch
>>222148099Lyanna wasn't worth it.
>>222148081>Curses her daughter to bring ruin and carnage to the whole world because she couldnt find love and fuck a chad unlike Azshara and LyannaBased only if you are a femcel self instering as her
In this general we believe in Queen Daenerys I, the last of her name, Queen of the bones of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, Slayer of the Seven Kingdoms, and Destroyer of the Realm.
>>222148085>hottest chick in Westeros trying to seduce him>tells the Dornish whore that he's saving himself for his future wife>barely thinks about her ever againgigachad shit, meanwhile Barristan is longing after her decades later not realizing she was a slut
If Ned was a girl he would have married Robert
>>222148117Perhaps but he thinks about her all the time
>Elia is officially the most prominent and significant lesbian character in all of ASOIAF>groomed 2 teenage girls>double cucked by two White men>rape victim
>>222148133>Turns out that wasn’t tears on her face
>>222148127King's Landing deserves to be burnt anyway. White Harbor is the superior city.
>*teaches your kids some Dornish*
>>222148140Doesnt track. More likely to be into Rhaegar.
>>222148051How did Rhaegar lose? Half of the seethe from the play is that it comes off as Rhaegar apologia.
>>222148051women SEETHING that Mad Queen Dany is confirmed lmao
>>222148051>(aside the embarassing THE TIDE stuff)cope nigga, you either take everything or nothing
The biggest plot twist is that Aerys was sane all along
I always had faith in my boy Rhaegar. I never doubted you. Complete vindication.
>>222148207because he's a depressed loser with no agency, he just gets led around by Elia and Lyanna. He's not an evil rapist or a tragic hero, he's nothing
>>222148216it was confirmed in the show also grrm gave dnd general idea where characters were heading
>>222148247That's Jaime
since when are play’s considered canon
>>222148207Readers took his obsession with prophecy as being some single-mindedness where the ultimate end justified the means. Now he’s portrayed as some low-functioning autist whose wife had to tell him how to wipe his ass.
>>222148051>People whose reputation was destroyed by the Play leaks:>JaimeWhat did Jaime do now?
>>222148117Tell Robert that.
>>222148051Jaime got vindicated. The play shows him actively trying to help Aerys’ victims (unlike Barry and the rest of the “”””great knights””””), and Aerys is portrayed as an even bigger piece of shit than we thought. Our boy was the most morally upright person at the court.
>>222148253Of course, but women have been in denial about it for years. How could Dany be evil? She SAID she was good, so she must be!!!
>>222148264GRRM produced the play. You think he is going to make a play about some non Canon fan fiction? This is the Roberts Rebellion story he was always going to tell eventually.
>>222148258Didn't realize Jamie had purple eyes.
>>222148247>Simp without agency letting two different women (that didnt loved him as a person) ruining his LifeNah this Play is his 9/11. He will lose all the fangirls thinking for decades he was some kind of mysterious fantasy Christian Gray fucking multiple women that workshipped him as a God
>>222148117>Ned would have had an even happier marriage with his big tittied redhead fish wife if he hadn't have to raise his retarded whore sister's dragonspawn He was too pure for this world. No wonder Bobby and half the Norf were gay for him.
Reminder that Rhaegar is Arthur/Barristan-tier now
>>222148308The original image is Jaime, from Magic or some other game tie-in. That’s a photoshop.
>>222148258>Idolized a clueless simp (Rhaegar)and a faggot (Arthur)Nah
Bobby B sucks now
>>222148284>>222148292See >>222148334
>>222148185>Describes young Robert as a "maiden's dream"I dunno Anon
>>222148207>How did Rhaegar lose?Bran/Bloodraven DM'd him some incest porn at the worst possible time
>>222148249>loser>Lyanna loves him>Elia cucks herself for him>Cersei prefers Rhaegar to Robert>Fathers TPTWP>Has the sense to want to abandon the insanity, but moves forward anyway on behalf of those he loved>Beats Robert on the Trident, and only dies due to a random dreamIDK man. Rhaegar is the unambiguous tragic hero of the play.
>>222148051>Brandonwhat reputation did brandon have? did people really not think he was an asshole from what we've been told about him?
>Robert's only bastard prior to being engaged to Lyanna was due to grief after his parent's brutal deaths in front of him>he went to visit Mya daily, was a great father>rebellion was fully justified, all targshits were insane and Aerys mocked his parents death caused by Aerys own orders>can't even blame him for not punishing Tywin anymore, Ned was in the wrong because Elia was a scheming whore who would have brought more war if she and her children livedBobby B bros, we just keep winning
>>222148292You mean the same dude that tried to pass his bastards as the king's heirs?
>>222148374He lost to Rhaegar and only won because Rhaegar had a dragon dream seizure, that's gotta sting
>>222148396A win is a win.
>aemond had the sun in his eyes, that’s the only reason daemon was able to kill him That’s how rhaegar copers sound. Your guy got turned into a poster
So is JonxDany confirmed as well ?the play seems to hint they're really each other half other side and are connected from childbirthalso lyanna and rhaegar dreaming of each other sounds like dany dreaming with jon as her lover and sensing his death
>Called the "Tower of Joy">wonder what it contains>it's rapemfw
>>222148374It’s over dude
Here's your Eddard Stark.
>>222148413>aemond>eyesPoint utterly and completely and totally discarded
>>222148374>Has to marry Cersei after all of this
>>222148413He literally disarmed him and had his sword to his throat asking for his yield, then the dragon dream happens
>>222148396Potential prince. if only everything was perfect then he'd win and everything saved.
>every single Martell scheme is the Westerosi equivalent of an Indian getting hit by a train
>>222148452What happened after that KEK
dirty, vile, stinky, wanton, no-good dago whore
>Robert Baratheon kills Rhaegar Targaryen, 283AC, colourised https://youtu.be/SscX8xhlXVM?si=8QLngp8wl5__m6D7&t=256
Reminder that Robert already said that Rhaegar won in the first book.
>>222148369>Lyanna only wanted her dick for the prophecy>Elia just wanted to marry the prince to eventually coup the Throne for Martell interests>Cersei is a room IQ idiot whose opinion means nothing>Aerys was crazy so ditto>Spineless cowardy that let his life crumbling around him to not anger his bitchy second wife>Shit retcon never ever mentioned by hardcore Rhaegar stans that witnesses their duel like Barristan and ThorneNah he sucks
>>222148464Yeah but what's her number?
If Rhaegar had succeeded what would the Harem Elia was trying to arrange for him be? He seemed like he had a girl for every kingdom. Maybe this was what Aegon IV was trying to do breed the PTWP
>>222148482>>Aerys was crazy so dittoSLANDER!
>>222148488the ocean bed.
>>222148435Can someone post Rhaegar's actor?
>>222148435I hope if/when the play comes to America it's not 80% niggers
>>222148482>Aerys was crazy so dittoHe was right about everything
Dany "blood Curse incarnate" Targshit
>>222148518it'll be 100% niggas. WE WUZ KANGS AND SHIEET
>>222148454>Elia could have prevented the war from even happening, knew where Rhaegar and Lyanna were the entire time>somehow thinks Rhaegar taking a 2nd wife, which will piss off the faith and risk another Blackfyre rebellion, benefits her>after the war starts, she comes up with the genius idea to betray her own side during a massive battle, thinking she can get Targ loyalists houses rekt while preserving Dornish army>Vale chads shatter their spear wall and kill them all>Tywin uses her own plan against her>she gets raped while watching her children dieshe makes Cersei look like a 4D chess master in comparison, going to be hard for Arianne or Doran to top this shit
>>222148394We’re talking about young Jaime here, anon. Cynical older Jaime is a different story.
>>222148435Atleast Elia is lore accurate
>>222148545Elia would have been middle eastern brown not Nubilian Queen brown.
>>222148416>Despite aerys showing up to the coup elia urges rhaegar to still go along with it and crown her queen of love and beauty to display the future royal couple but rhaegar crowns lyanna instead angering elia and others causing elia to storm outEliasisters... this can't be happening!!!!
>>222148539People really pretend Show Ellaria killing Doran was out of character lol
>>222148565All the same to me
>>222148488Send a raven to Essos, addressed to Young Griff
>>222148454Total Dornish Death or bust
>>222148051>>Darkstar (now the least embarassing Dayne)That can't be true he's at the very least not the most embarrassing one anymore
Can George write a normal Woman????
>>222148273>>222148311Cope
>>222148629Give me at least 6 (six) normal women as an example
>>222148615>story at Starfall that Edric Dayne grows up on is that Ned and Ashara fell in love at Harrenhalpoor Ned getting associated with this whore because the Dayne's don't want to admit she was getting fucked by half the royal court. Based Arya instinctively knew the story was bullshit
>>222148638No, I won’t cope. I’ve built my entire personality around being a man Rhaegar would be proud of. The fuck am I meant to do now?
>>222148668>The fuck am I meant to do now?Probably rape
>>222148629Margery is pretty normal.
>>222148668Its OK anon, you don't need to seethe anymore.
>>222148629Cersei
>>222148629SansaBrienne
This also proves that Sir Duncan killing Egg to save Rhaella and Rhaegar's life was a mistake.
>>222148510Could’ve been worse
Well done robert at the tourney now here is your prize
>>222148710Do we have any real proof he killed egg
>>222148710>saving the world from white walkers is a mistakeHow?
>>222148638You are trying to lessen the sting of your guy dying by saying if this if that, that’s the definition of cope
Are we going to get one last rape scene in the final episode? I won't be able to tell who the bad guys are if we don't
>>222148629
>>222148734Arya saved the world from White walkers. Targshits did jackshit.
>>222148629All his women are crazy, whores, entitled beyond reason or all of the above. Which is 100% accurate for normal women.
>>222148761Aemond's descendant. Greens win again.
>>222148528Notice how in the books, all her most retarded and/or morally reprehensible decisions come after she gets hung up on her super speshul dragon blood and great destiny. I kept telling Danyfags for years that it’s a warning pattern but nooo, you’re just biased, anon. Turns out that Danystans just failed the media literacy test.
>>222148761The princess that was promised
>>222148307ah I see anything but writing books I hope he dies soon
Excuse me can anyone in this thread tell me what goes one here. It seems like it's just a pit of degenerate sluts and schemers who can't even play checkers.
>Mah tragic perfect snowflake dragon prince>Almost anyone who came between Rhaegar and Lyanna and their perfect ending was a conniving degenerateGRRM has lost his "heart qi" as a storyteller. All he can produce now is anime-tier chosen one narrative. Small wonder why he has not published the Winds of Winter; he knows it's gonna suck despite his best efforts.
>>222148761They did say Rhaegar saw Lyanna and Arya is the one who resembles Lyanna the most.
>>222148805That's exactly what's going on there
>>222148539What are you talking about? Where is all of this from?
>>222148435>Elia Martell is Rochelle.KEK
>>222148761Jon did all the hard work though. She just killed one guy
>>222148775Does this "House Whent is ackshually descended from Aemond" have any actual basis in text or is it just another schizo/shitpost theory
>>222148761I still hate how the big bad, the fucking Night King, the guy who's been haunting Westerosi minds for THOUSANDS of years dies because he falls for the 'oh no, I dropped my blade... INTO MY OTHER HAND!' technique.
>>222148528>
>>222148435is this in England or something?
>>222148051dont care. not canon.
>>222148833Bat lady gives birth in Harrenhall. Nobody gives a shit about harrenhall for years. House Whent's banner are bats.
>>222148775What exactly is the family relationship to go from whents to starks
>>222148833>have any actual basis in textWe know he had a child with Alys, the theory is that house Whent comes from there considering they ended up ruling harrenhalThere is no actual basis its just something that's technically possible
>the red comet appeared 15 years before the main story during Jon and Dany's conception which literally not a single person has ever mentioned>Bobby B is not only present for the sack of King's Landing he arrives to see Jaime sitting on the throne at the same time as the Lannisters>Elia is a turbodyke despite Oberyn explicitly stating she was in love with Rhaegar and half in love with Baelor Breakwind>Rhaella was near the same league of crazy as Aerys, abused Viserys, and cursed Dany to be an antichrist rapebaby which no one has ever mentionedJust need to make all those details line up and then you'll have Winds! Please be patient goys!
>>222148858yeah West End play
I'm so glad the play came out and dashed thousands of midwit headcannons, the seethe is the most delicious thing I've experienced in the fandom for years, I hope some of you kill yourselves like Ashara did lol
>>222148264Since the rest of the books are not getting published and therefore this is the only explanation you are getting.
>>222148838any other timeline he would have curb stomped her face in but the timeline where she received her faceless man training was the thing that countered him
>>222148805>mfw House Wyl are the sanest of them
should add a disclaimer to every op that the nigger opera is not canon
>>222148743You doubt your Queen, Ser?
I remember when the Dornish plot got adapted in the TV show and everyone complained about how it was handled. Among those complaining many of them were glazing Arianna as this super smart princess who plots to secure her position and knew how to play the game. It got me curious and after S8 I started reading the books however when I finally arrived in Dorne I was disappointed to find that the smart and pragmatic princess was in fact a drooling retard and the whole Dornish plot wasn't as great as people lead me to believe. Now fast forward to today and I am seeing a bunch of people praise Ellia as a master manipulator and pragmatic player of the game dispite the fact that she was willingly setting up a Blackfyre 2.0 as part of her master plan before she got killed. The question here is, why are people so retarded when it comes to Dorne? Is it me? Am I missing something? Because Dorne so far has just been one disappointment after another.
>>222148894brother, all she did was drop her dagger into her other handyou don't need training for that
>>222148901it has George's Stamp of Approval. Even if the Dialogue is not the same all the details are from George. It aligns with the ending of GoT with the third child prophecy, Dany's Madness. This is why George can't finish the books due to the backlash.
>>222148881 in the books it’s said a comet appeared above kings landing during aegon, the infant Gregor killed, birth. Is he the same age as dany and Jon?
>>222148914The Dornish plot is BY FAR the weakest part AFFC/ADWD and most fans in hindsight think George should have it out entirely, probably the Greyjoy POVs too
>>222148838Night King doesn't exist in the books, other than a Stark coomer who fucked a White Walker before being killed thousands of years ago
>>222148949Wait he doesn't? So is there no one leading the Others in the books?
>>222148914I can't believe that anyone said that Arianna was a good schemer, her plan was stupid and a bunch of people died. The whole plot is left on the cliff hanger of her being locked in a room and forced to read books because of how dumb she is.
>>222148939>it has George's Stamp of Approvalso did HOTD
Yo targshits, have you ever considered NOT having schizo episodes in the middle of the battlefield? No? Well that's too bad - A concerned westerosi patriothttps://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1785345272292590.mp4
>>222148888The great danyfag filter. Now the adults can discuss kino
>>222148943In the play Aegon was born during Harrenhall.
>>222148914Arianne is a shit character in the books, the only thing we lost from not having in GOT is not big boobie nude scene
>>222148966fraudbert...
>>222148966this is anime kill yourself
>>222148972We had bad poosey
>>222148970Well there ya go
>>222148939Instead he is whoring the IP to anyone that asks while also getting pissed whenever they inevitably veer off from his limited amount of source material?
>>222148914Dorne is a metaphor of a hippie commune. They're all about free love, and they think they're smarter then everyone. However, in reality they're just a bunch of idiots.
>>222148914>The question here is, why are people so retarded when it comes to Dorne? Is it me? Am I missing something? Because Dorne so far has just been one disappointment after another.I think people overhype them because of the dragon rape and also people trying to rationalize dorne's relevance in the seriesI wish we got the darkstar scenes though for the cringekino
guys is this all pointless? literally no one believes anyone is watching the new shows or cares at all about the old shows ever since we botched the last season.
Robert sisters…we’re back on fraud watch after it was revealed we didn’t win fair and square Maybe if we beg for forgiveness the Targ chads will forgive us
>>222148565I cant tell the difference.
I mean George is the one who wants to write a scene with a Direwolf vs Bolton hounds just because he thinks it's cool symbolism. I think george just writes whatever cool anime scene and just connects them together.
>>222148982>beats the mountain and oberynFraud allegations are baselessRhaegar was just very good out of nowhere, but being a targshit the 7 struck him down
>>222148995I wonder if during one of his many appearances someone has the opportunity and stones to ask why everything being released for the Planetos franchise has been absolute shit for at least 10 years now.
>>222148966Wheres the blackfyre fuentes edit that shit killed me
>>222148921the house of black and white teach a very special anime sneak attack technique
>>222148914>The question here is, why are people so retarded when it comes to Dorne?Hyping brown people, they got shafted with Essos since it's a slaver hellhole so only Dorne left.
>>222149020>Fraud allegations are baseless"""Demon""" of the Trident
>>222148999Except when Targs try to conquer them then they suddenly become fireproof and get the ability to mass teleport
>>222149043I presume you meanhttps://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1783725418804227.webmABSOLUTELY VINDICATED, DORNISH WHORES SHOULD NOT MARRY INTO THE ROYAL FAMILYDAERON WATERS IS NO KING OF MINE ETC ETC
>>222149043
>>222149011I think we need to look at some alternative facts here. At a moment when all. Would seem lost the Gods directly intervened to save their chosen hero. Robert is a divine warrior.
>If you let your enemies kill you, you win
>>222149065>>222149075Based lads that was it thank you
>>222149079>tfw too high IQ not to die
>>222148629Cat, Sansa, Good Queen Alysanne, her non-whore daughters, book Rhaenys, Asha (aka the smartest Iron Islander), Genna Lannister, Arya (until she gets fucked up by trauma), and many others. GRRM just writes with true equality — if the male cast can be full of schizos, sluts, backstabbers, schemers and retards, then so can the female.
>>222149077ThisIt was a trial by combat, and the 7 judged Rhaegar GUILTY
>>222149077>the gods directly intervenedThink you’ll find it was Bloodraven
>>222149110>blood raven ended the shitty targ dynasty he protectedBlackfyres stand vindicated again
>>222148901>b-but muh canonlets not become the star wars fandom
>>222148761>Targ descendant saves the world Would be cringe of she didnt come from one the least bad targ in the history of Westeros
>>222149140I'd rather know what is canon to the actual story and what isn'tI am hoping for notablog asap
>>222149140There's still a Star Wars fandom?
>>222149140>the star wars fandomwhat fandom bro it's 2026
fat jewish cuckfetish’st retard
>>222149214>waaah why didn't Ashara pick the shy nice guy this is just like high school!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>222149214what is with him and writing underage girls as sexual perverts?
>>222149108Except for the two main character incest couples where in both cases the male ends up being a hyper competent hero and the female ends up being a batshit crazy mass murderer.
You can apologize any time now
>>222148733After Harrenhall he goes to Evenfall hall and fathers the line that produces Brienne somehow instead of stay on with the targs.
#HouseOfTheDragon Episode 7 just dropped for us and goddamn I'm trying to process how to even give a non-spoiler tease for the whole episode. I'll dish one out in a few days after I watch it again but...The only thing I can tease right now is that Helaena fans, you guys will be eating good. It'll be bittersweet but you'll eat. And don't worry, that window is still closedI don't know if George read a rough draft when he wrote Toxic Butterflies and maybe I need to see Episode 8 to get the whole of his complaint but I'm starting to kinda see where THAT is heading. It really will depend on where Episode 8 goes with her to see if George's comments were justified but so far I can kinda see where the story is headingKeep in mind that some of George's complaints were absolutely valid but maybe not for her? Maybe? Again, I need to see 8 to get the full picture
>>222149229>what is with him and writing underage girls as sexual perverts?The more upset redditors get about GRRM writing teenage girls as being sexual promiscuous the more I applaud him for it
>>222148817>Story opens with the white walkers killing someguy cause he looks like Jon>Turns out everyone following prophecy fucked up and confused Arya and Jon because they looked alikeBravo you fat fuck.
>>222147995>>222148051QRD on The Tide stuff? Just woke up and am catching up.
>>222148051>the embarassing THE TIDE stuffqrd?
>>222149140its really easy to discern what is and isnt canon>is a nigger replacing a white man?not canon.shrimple as.
>>222149137I think Bloodraven just wants to be on the Iron Throne. Imagine an all seeing omnipotent figure with the most powerful seat in the kingdom. You would be a god and GRRM is an atheist the whole story is about free will.
>>222149254Alicent fed her the moon tea and she miscarriages and halluciantes warging into Dreamfyre.
>>222149137>completely right about the dornish>completely right about bloodraven the serial kinslayerUnironically all that's missing is proof that Daeron was Aemon's bastard and Bittersteel will be the most "did nothing wrong" character in the history of asoiaf
What is with the push to make the Targaryen's these chosen one heroes?
>>222149229because women of any age are sexual pervs. my gf told me the girls in our gym class had a tumblr fanpage dedicated to how hot our gym teacher was. He was 25 year old just out of college hockey player with a wife and this was Sophomore year in highschool we were like 14-15.
>>222148914>Now fast forward to today and I am seeing a bunch of people praise Ellia as a master manipulator and pragmatic player of the gameNo way people are saying that about her. Are they all fucking blind?
>>222148966robert's still a cuck nigga, embarrassing edits of him won't do him any favors
Kneel.
>>222149348GRRM is a white supremacist.
George had 14 year old Dany walking around with one boob out....
>>222148307uh...he produced all the shows...
>One thing which hasn't come up much yet is that everyone in the theatre had a different experience. The stage is set up so that everyone *will miss things. And see other things wonderfully.>The play utilizes every inch of space.
>>222149348Originally, asoiaf was to have a bit of prophecy sprinkled in but be ultimately subversiveBut as george started adding prophecy lore here, there, up and down it became so crowded now NO MATTER WHAT the ultimate message of the story will be "killing people because the voices in the head tell you is morally good and will save humanity"He fucked his own story and it became impossible to unfuck it
>>222149352Women like to fuck, they just have to pretend not to because they understand that sex is their best means at economic advancement and social power.
I can’t find any porn of old man aerys and Joanna Lannister
>>222149364When I say "Death to ALL Tragshits" I mean ALL OF THEM
BURN THEM ALL
>Aerys gives Robert a model of his fathers shipwrecked shipI FUCKING KNEEL TO THE BASED MAD CUNT
>>222149364They were always the cooler targs even if they lost
>>222149395>be a targSHITTER>be an asshole
>>222149395What if Brandon and Rickard's deaths were just a prank that went wrong?
>>222149395THE TIDES!
>HotD getting shitted on>Release even worse asioaf production so people focus on that Sasuga, George.
>>222149395>trolled tywin by asking him if his wife was hotter post partum right after she died>trolled Rhaegar by offering his neck and calling him pussy>trolled Rhaegar again trying to fuck over the prophecy by breeding >trolled Robert by doing thisGenuinely what the FUCK was his problem?
>>222149384I thought the message was >"trying to make a prophesy happen will lead to it happening but not the way you wanted it to and now you are dead lol"
>>222149384and when Benioff and Weiss made it so the prophecies were mostly red herrings and believing in prophecy makes you a dumbass, the fans complained that their favorite character wasn't Kazoo Aghai or something
>>222149423he didn't actually expect Brandon to kill himself and he was gonna pour sand on the wildfire.
>>222148805Martin Is a boomer still stuck in the old orientalism stereotypes
>>222149415Your precious bastard line carry a trace of the accursed lineage. Robert especially since his grandmother is Egg's daughter. House Durrandon will rise again.
>>222149437he just likes bantering with the boys. fucking westeros is full of snowflakes nowadays.
>>222148959No. We no very little about them in the books. Most of which is interpretation. Including that there should probably be a leader. But doesn't exist on page as of yet.
GRRM bros... reddit thinks the play is very problematic and chuddy...
>when a bunch of aryan looking people conquer your continent its good because they were destined to do so in a prophecythanks george, nice message
>>222149444>but not the way you wanted itYeah but now the others will be stopped by the prophecy one way or the other so it ended up happening exactly as people wanted
>>222149270>>222149278Robert has serious PTSD from watching his parents die when he was a kid, and he shouts “The tide!” when he has a nightmare. It just makes his hatred of the Targs even more justified (his dad died on a stupid mission Aerys sent him at, plus Aerys acts like a piece of shit towards him afterwards), but /tv/irgins are retarded.
>>222149444Basically what I expected. Stannis in the book would have probably killed his daughter to try and emulate Azor Ahai only to fail while someone else like Jon or Jamie does it.
>>222148805>Narrow strait>North coast (Cape Wrath) is like fantasy Florida where it rains every day>South coast is like fantasy Sahara where the last time it rained Visenya was still firebombing the local townsThis has absolutely no scientific sense, hack worldbuilding
>>222149484Ignoring the whining about the poor dornish I agree.
ALL THIS CONVOLUTED WHOREDOM AND MAGIC just for a mind broken crippler boy to win the owl
>>222149493>Robert has serious PTSDPTSD doesn't exist in asoiaf
So is Dorne now canonically the Westerosi equivalent of Lys?
>>222148833Their kid reveal up pretty much ended Fire and Blood 1 so a lot of people had speculated about his destiny since 2018
So its all prophecy and blood raven/bran controlling everyone.
>>222149523And neither person born under the comet (also weren't Dany and Jon born with a few months between them) ended the long night.
>>222149453If anything they made it so that the one throwaway prophecy Melly made about Arya killing a lot of people ended up being about how she saves the world from the WWs
>>222148860>Play wrote by the Fat Man in person>Not canon>>222148864Catelyn mother was a Whent, so her Stark kids are all 1/4 whents
>>222149384Jon is dead and dany is the villain. Nobody accepted the ending of dance, they all expect Jon to come back but he won’t
>>222149364I miss him so much
>>222149493Hey Robert my boy Lyanna is in the bay of Storm's end come get her.
>>222149437last /b/-tard in world full of redditors
>>222149493>he shouts “The tide!” when he has a nightmareThat's a gay depection of PTSD
>>222149484He is rightYou would think Jaime would have mentioned if Rhaella was just as mad as AerysDornish memes are hilarious but they really are all faggot whore schemers now.The play is a parody of the source material and if grrm wrote it he's gone completely senile
The dorniggers were always a joke. The only reason they cant be conquered is because they have nothing to conquer so they just hide like rats and kill occupiers in their sleep. The Dornish have never won a battle outside their shithole.
>>222149538le subversion ;)
>>222149484the summer islands are also about free love and fertility godess worship, george is a typical white boomer liberal who thinks white people live in strict and repressed cultures while browns live in happy open minden sex positive societies
>>222148051>Aerys was right about the Dornish all alongYet more evidence that the Mountain did NOTHING wrong
>Every anti dornish sentiment that has ever existed is completely justified What did George mean by this?
>>222149570It’s perfect
>>222149536Prestonjacobs vindicated
>>222149565>You would think Jaime would have mentioned if Rhaella was just as mad as AerysJaime was originally just some pyscho whore threw children from windows, his entire character is a retconyou're just mad your headcannon was proven wrong, sad little men big egos have trouble admitting they were wrong
>>222149558Sure Aerys but I heard Jamie got a cool new Sword wanna go take a look?
>>222148051Can I ask why Jamie's reputation is destroyed by the leaks?
>>222149395>>222149437It's a shame Jaime didn't do it sooner>>222149467Targaryen link is bullshit cooked up by maesters after Robert's rebellion btw
>>222149538Arya was metaphorically born under the comet. Ned's execution started her new life.
>>222149555non summer island niggers aren't canon, anon
>>222149566Dorniggers beat Daemon
>>222149581Brown people are only good for sex and nothing else apparently
>>222149592Yes, we know, and?I'm still right, this is yet another retcon except this doesn't improve the story and directly contraddicts established characters>you're just mad your headcannon was proven wrongWhat headcanon?
>>222149558how can people hate the madlad. is banter a crime now inwesteros??
>>222149607Because Aerys was le based because le Dornish stronk womyn Elia was plotting against him.
>Dawn has a glowing effect like a lightsaber that can be switched on and off, I’m told it’s pretty cool.
>>222148914Dorne is framed as a badass proud land that somehow defeated all the Targs and never lost a war: and yet every single Martell that showed up in the main books is a pathetic failure that dies a horrible death once the left their sandhole (Elia, her uncle, Oberyn, Quentyn)
>>222149484Where's the lie? The dornish are depraved homos or schemers. Rhaella being a psycho is retarded, Rhaegar is a retard and changing it so Robert only wins because Rhaegar got distracted is retarded.
>>222148371People didn't think he'd be so bad as to fuck his bro's crush
>>222149607He whiteknighted for a crazy ass bitch that was just having crazy ass kinky sex with her crazy ass husband.
>>222148965For the play he litterally wrote the plot, its not the same
THE YELLOW TOAD WOULD BE ASHAMED OF HER KIN
>>222149611Cope harder faggot, Baratheon's deserve death along with Targshits.
>>222148051What about Viserys?
>>222149615>Egg is 75% DornishHow come he's neither bi, a sexpest or a retarded schemer?
>The real moral of asoiaf's story is that brown people are degenerates and women are evilWhat did GRRM mean by this?
I want to see the Preston reaction NOW. WTF are they doing?
>>222149681Dragon blood trumps all
if modern drama writing is fucked by every writer being an out of touch subconsciously racist boomer, then just wait how fucked everything will be once the unironic commiefornian zillenial writers everyone scapegoats come to power and become the default industry workhorses
Reminder that Dareon beat Dorne so bad without dragons that the only way they had a chance to beat him was to ask for a peace treaty and shoot him with Arrows.
>>222149672>the cries jaime heard from the room came from aerysimagine the sex
>>222149187>GRRM writingYour not getting answers anon. Just more bitching when football season rolls around.
>>222148051>lewyn martell and the dornishmen betray the targs at the trident and he kills jonathor darrySo the rebels killed them anyway? How does Barristan not know this happened
>>222149607Part of Jamie's thing with oaths is him remembering how he had to stand outside the queens chambers, hearing her cry and scream no, told not to do anything by his fellow kingsguard because they're meant to protect her "but not from him".Now apparently she's also crazy and Jamie somehow forgot that and was also really into it.
>>222149017> I mean George is the one who wants to write a scene with a Direwolf vs Bolton hounds just because he thinks it's cool symbolismThat would be fucking rad desu. Better than half of the slog he wrote for AFFC
>>222149652>>222149632>Rhaella can't be mentally ill because because because she just can't okay!!!!!!!!!!!!!Spoiled children always throw tantrums when they don't get their own way
>>222149681>or a retarded schemer?bro...guess who caused the sweltering summerhall of '59
>>222149566true>be Daeron the Young Dragon>only 18 years old, so don't know about dornoid treachery yet>beat the PISS out of them so badly they cry for a peace meeting>go to the peace meeting in good faith>dornoids ambush and kill you, your handful of guards, and several kingsguard members>this was after the dornoids had already pretended to submit to you and let their smallfolk keep rioting and killing people>including a Tyrell Lord Paramountdornoid scum should be eradicated where ever it springs up, even in a fucking trial by combat they have to cheat and poison their weapons lmao
>>222149673wortten under coercion maybe. why else would he approve nignogs as fantasy scots
Is this the true death of the author?
>>222148862Also isn't the current Lady Whent a crazy old woman, possible witch? And there was a lady lothston who a witch too?
>>222149229Hes unable to deal with numbers. Age and money. Also hes a massive degenerate which is why everyone is a subversion and he cant bring himself to write the heroic part of the story.
>>222149719You forgot Ashara was part of this Harem cause she was fucking Elia. You could probably slot in Cersei into this as well.
Do you think GRRM is going to react to the liberal feminist backlash that this is getting and de chudify the book endings?
>>222149708>Jaime's character ruined because he didn't understand Aerys' and Rhaella's marriagenot too bright are you
>>222149719Should have taken Cat instead of Elia desu. Hell Lysa (if you could get her before her dad fucked her up) would be better then a dornish whore.
>>222149423Rhaella rigged it to cause them to die
>>222149713>Rhaella can't be mentally ill because because because she just can't okayI literally explain why this is an odd decision in my post, you actual retardBecause nobody ever mentioned it, we have Jaime thinking about her and he doesn't THINK about itBarristan doesn't mention it, Joncon doesn't mention or think about it, it stands out as something several people should know but apparently forgotSAME for Robert losing to Rhaegar in front of THOUSANDS of people and NOBODY noticing it
>>222149690his wife recently gave birth to a baby girl so he's been busy
ATARALL TARGS ARE RETARDED
>>222149747liberal feminists don't read his books despite HBO bending backwards for them.
>>222149734Current lady Whent is dead, and I don't think there was ever anything mentioning her being a witch? The last lady Lothston was tho, it's what got them overthrown.
The two races that should be completely eradicated?dornoid SCUMironborn SCUM
>>222149760I notice that you made it vague whether the child is his.
>>222149747Add more random homos and more black people playing white characters in adaptations
>>222148833Right now there is no real evidence.
>>222149760Really? How long ago?
thank god rhaella died in childbirth, imagine dany and vizzy being raised by this absolute schizo bitch and then dany getting her dragons
>>222149782V*lyrian SCUMGh*scari SCUM
>>222149783Kek
>>222149729Yeah if he wrote this he's actually gone senile and should not be taken seriously anymore
>>222149713It's only retarded in that somehow in all the material available, it's only now we learn just how fucked in the head she was when before she seemed to be a battered housewife and not much else.
>>222149759To be fair... Rhaella could have randomly turned into a harpy in front of him and Joncon would still mainly focus on how much he wanted Rhaegar to split his buttcheeks
>>222149812>she seemed to be a battered housewifeone throwaway comment from Jaime, big deal
>>222149729>>222149811 Its kino. What are you upset about?
>>222149800announced in his last livestream last Sunday
>>222149571>happy open minden sex positive societiesAKA rape fests kek
So is anybody going to tell me when the play ends? Is there still more to be revealed? idk shit about this shiet mane
HOW HARD DID ASHARA FUCKED ELLIA
>>222149678Abused by Rhaella, he was truly fucked from birth
>>222149844Nice. Did he say which day she was born?
>>222149759>Because nobody ever mentioned itNone of them knew Rhaella particularly well either, Jaime and Joncon probably never spoke to her
>>222149851The play as ended m8, it will be repeated for a while but it's the same play
>>222149811What did people expect? Ashara was Jon's mother? Dany isn't a Targ? Rhaegar was a warged faceless man? Littlefinger is the great other?
>Elia only ever talked about being kind, beautiful and frail>Nah she was a cuckquean who let her whore gf get knocked up by northerners, encouraged her husband to fuck a Stark teenager and plotted the downfall of the queenThis legit feels like some propaganda piece that Tywin would cook up but nah it's apparently legit.
Why are people upset about a Targaeryen being crazy? The lore has stated they're schizos since the very beginning...
>>222149882Notice how not a single criticism of the play contains any of this
>>222149607>Idolized a weakmind fraud (Raeghar)>Idolized a faggot that may had molested him in the Kingsguard (Arthur)>Always defended the honor or a woman revealed in the play as a insane schizo that a used Viserys out of spite for bisndsd and that sent a cursed child (Dany) to bring ruin to the world (Rhaella)
>When Viserys sold their mother's crown, the last joy had gone from him, leaving only rage.Why would he care so much for someone who abused his ass?
>Last thing Rhaegar saw before Robert caved his ribs in was Dany shitting in a field
>>222149898>Why are people upset about a Targaeryen being crazy?They was a meta in fanbase discussion that only like 2 or 3 Targs were actually crazy and the rest were normal and it was anti-Targ propaganda or something
The final redpill is realizing all noblescum are treacherous scheming perverts that all want to kill eachother while using the regular people as tools. Take the commonpill and just be happy to live a normal life.
>>222149678Mindbreak and abused by Rhaella for petty revenge over Aerys (that loved the boy and wanted him as his heir instead of Rhaegar)
>>222149916based bloodraven sent him a vision of dany having diarrhea
>>222149919Turns out the history books were Targaryen propaganda all along, all those “normal targs” were just whitewashed by time
>>222149913Mommy issues. Many such cases
>>222149187is it real ?source ? link ?
>>222149676Cope, they are the heirs of Durran's divine bloodline
>>222149886>Elia only ever talked about being kind, beautiful and frailUmm no sweetie Cersei accurately describes as a feeble flat-chested whore
>>222149961>Bastard posturingTypical behaviour of your kind.
>>222149681He was a later bloomer. Lore hints he joined his family habit of prophecy lunacy later in his life
>>222149959It's an old post from his blog, not about the playIt's from 2016 as the image shows
>>222149484>Progressives want gay retards injected into everything.>Get mad when everything is gay and retarded.They did this to themselves.
>>222149961nigga you're retarded
>>222149939>Broraven
>>222149966Cersei thinks every other woman is a whore, that's not saying much
the madlad just tried to protect his son from crazy people and scheming dornish scum ... poor vizzy, poor aerys
>>222149961Based Robert avenging his noble forefather Argilac the Martyr
>This legit feels like some propaganda piece that Tywin would cook up but nah it's apparently legit.
THE TIIIIIIIDE
>>222149966>Cersei was rightThat's how you know the play can't be canon.
>>222150006>Cersei thinks every other woman is a whoreShe's right
>>222149707They were facing the flank or Robert's army made by the Valemen. Them being the bastion of Andal (White) honor couldnt stand seeing such oriental (Brown) trachery and murdered them all anyway I am not joking. Search for the leak
>>222150006but shes almost always right about it
>>222150007Maybe he should have just let him marry Cersei instead of making Tywin seethe
>>222150007>the madlad just tried to protect his son from crazy people and scheming dornish scumAegon IV
>Cersei thinks every other woman is a whore
>>222150039>>222150049>>222150066Sure but it's the pot calling the kettle black
HE WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE D*RNISH MENACE BUT YOU WOULDN'T LISTEN
Cersei is right about everythingTyrion IS in the wallsThe maids ARE shrinking her dresses on his behalfAurane WILL return with the fleet to save herBronn WILL pay
this is why cersei would be perfect for ned, ned is way too trusting of people, he needs based cersei clocking all these sluts and scheming assholes
>>222149282everyone that isn't a retard knows that's just a theater thing
>>222149566They survive by plot armor. Robert points out that if he hides in his castles from the Dothraki his rule will fall. Somehow the Dornish can hide in caves for years without problem.
>>222150044>Andal (White)kek, they're moors retard
>>222149676Cope about what retard what about my post made you think i was in favor of BaratheonsI will say though there hasn't been a single unlikable Baratheon ever introduced in the series so that puts them miles ahead of Targshits
>>222150082>pot calling the kettle blackAnd moonboy, for all we know
>>222150013I wasn't saying it upset about it, I just thought it was funny. I'm sure the intent of the play is how sad and tragic Rhaegar is so it's funny how many people are seeing it as >Targshitters and Dorneshitters really needed to go
>>222150082>K-kettleblack!?
>>222150006Its hillarious how in her schizo rants somehow Cersei gets always to the point >Only character to correctly frame Elia as a scheming whore>She was right all along about someone hiding behind her walls plotting for her downfall. She just tought It was the wrong person
>>222150109He's talking about the Valemen, retard.
Cerseichads eating this week
>>222147995>The final answers of ASOIAF were in a shitty stage play which dropped a bunch of lore out of context that just made everybody look retardedkwab, good job fat man
George was very excited about this play. This isn't some HOTD situation.
>>222150137He was calling andals white, they're not they're moors
Wait mad dany was a real plot point?
>>222150086Will Jamie also save her?
>The penultimate scene of the play is Cersei convincing Jaime not to join the Nights Watch for forsaking his vows, and instead stay in the Kingsguard so they can “fuck on the royal bed” and their children can sit the Iron ThroneHere you go Jaimefags, more "I wanna be a good guy but Cersei pussy made me do it" ammo.
>>222150148For some reason I thought the play was entirely about the tourney but it seems like it's effectively telling most of the rebellion as well? (Somehow without either important Jon in it)?
>>222150082she sucked a few cocks, so what, its just because men cant keep up with her. bobby was a loser and jaime became a crybaby
>>222150167No? The Andals brought blonde hair to Westeros.
>>222149696That already happened. They stopped hiring white people had a couple years of brown and gay DEI hires which no one paid for and then the entire fantasy industry collapsed into clit-lit female porn.
>>222150172That was obvious. The show's problem was they just handled it very poorly, and how many twitterfags had made "muh Khaleesi" part of their identity they completely sperged out about it. That's why Rhaenyra is popular with them because they see her as Khaleesi 2.0
>>222150172It’s looking like it friend
>>222150044>the arryns slaughter the traitorous dornishmen kino
>>222150184To be fair on the wall your cock falls off from freezing, while in KL he had his sister who is top 5 hottest women in westeros giving him warm blowjobs and creampiesWe ALL would have made that choice, the real fuck up was joining the kingsguard for her in the first place instead of marrying some cute noble lady
>>222150172Yes obviously, grrm told them the ending
>>222150189While coping eating Robert's cum was her eating his babies.
>>222149747The last fucking thing George is going to do is write a fucking book.
>>222150270Actually it'll be a fart released from his corpse
>>222150172Shes pretty much a cursed child)false savior Aerys and Rhaella made in the same night the true Azor Ahai was conceived (Jon) to try stop Rhaegar to be the father of the true savior the world
>>222149811>Yeah if he wrote this he's actually gone senile and should not be taken seriously anymorei think that too, he's gone now
>>222149747He hasn't written a main line book with an ending in 25 years kek
>>222150245He was meant to marry Cat's sister Lysa, so I guess it's more was her womb fucked up yet at that point or not by her dad giving her too much moontea for Littlefingers kid.
>dany fangirls really believed that the story is going to end with dany as female aragorn lets face it foids are just not that smart
>>222150184Reminder that Jaime being le poor misunderstond guy is actually one of the earliest GRRM retcons. In book 1 and 2 hes clearly a hothead piece of crap and Cersei was actually the cold and calm schemer of the two (LMAO)
>Every woman loves him>Men go gay for him>Perfect prince, knightly, kind, musical, and a warrior>Defeats Robert before a deus ex machina intervenesHow isn't he a Gary Stu? WTF? How is this good writing?
>>222149747What backlash lol, they're forced to begrudgingly make some vague criticisms without getting to the heart of the problem because shit is so unbelievably bad. "Guys we're not robots we also think the show has bad parts..." It's not backlash it's damage control
>>222150232>That's why Rhaenyra is popular with them because they see her as Khaleesi 2.0And the writers are pandering to that. That's why Rhaenyra does fucking nothing of value, because if she did the femoids might get upset.
>>222150087The problem is that Cersei is a shitty schemer too. Her MO is to sleep with some random attractive dude that does her bidding while the rest of the dude's lackey's get bought by LF and Varys.
rings of power might be better than HOTD actually. dead fucking serious.unironically. at least the music and cgi is pleasant, al elrond is alright, think i'll go watch s2 instead of finishing hotd s3.
>>222150316That's not a retcon retard anon, that an arc
>>222150252she owned robert by swallowing his massive loads multiple times a day. based cersei wins again
>>222150334She's also borderline and views someone as either her puppet or an enemy that needs to be destroyed. She alienates too many potential allies.
>>222150345Its a retcon if Martin didnt planned this arc since the start. All the earliest drafts of the story had him eventually usurp the throne and be the "human" final antagonist
>>222148374>trying to frame Robert Baratheon as a chaste figure who lost himself momentarily because he was really sad over his parents dying Bruh. Will this thread ever give up on partisan illiteracy?
>>222150316Dear lord are you going to cry about this every fucking thread? It's the best retcon in the history of retcons
>>222149985yes i know, i asked for the link to that old post
>>222150319Honestly I think the Robert thing is what bugs me the most, It was cooler when it was Robert wins but get's fucked up enough he's out of action for King's Landing.Him seeming this prefect, somber prince from a distance worked for me because because I would imagine for any woman who did end up with him they'd find that would get tiring fast when he's always a melancholic faggot and not that great, and Elia was just too nice to put up with it (although now obviously she was just scissoring Ashara's sloppy seconds). But I guess he really was just the bee's knees, and not that obsessed with prophecy since Lyanna had to talk him into continuing with it.
>>222150384https://grrm.livejournal.com/352453.html?thread=18585285#t18585285
reminder that Ned turned down that stinky Dornish whore so he could remain a pure maiden for his wedding night
>Finally get to rest after Robert's Rebellion.>Time to raise the kids, more on the way. Catelyn starting to open up (she's still creeped out by the Weirwood).>Maintain peace in the North. Everyone likes you. Big Bucket Wull keeps sending you food to enjoy.>Get news from Robert. He's calling the banners. Some great house is revolting.>"Alright, at least I get to enjoy the warm weather.">You have to fight in the shittiest kingdom in the entire continent.
With the context of the event's of the play Ned is more of a piece of shit for lying to Bobby B.
>>222150453>ned is a piece of shit for trying to protect an infant babyLiterally nothing changes, babies are innocent, there is no context that would change the morality of this decision
What's the last scene of the play anyway?
>>222150365A retcon implies that already published material is being changed.What you just described is known as the author changing their mind mid-writing.
>>222150148HOLY SHIT !>Duncan mcmillan & Dominic cooke>D&D
>>222150440t. Cat
>>222150482Ned returning to Winterfell with the baby, Catelyn happy to see him the angry about the bastard, storms off, as Ned names him Jon.He interacts with her twice overall I think. A scene before he leaves for the rebellion after marrying her, and that one.
>>222150453>preventing child murder is bad,actuallyTerminal fantasy tribalism.
>>222150482Ned introducing Jon to Catelyn in Winterfell
>>222150491No FUCKING way....
>>222150484Why the change in Jaime's arc had created a wonderful character, It was still a early sign of what eventually would had doomed the whole saga: Martin's bad habit of changing the planned plot to add more and more shit he cames up by writing For every Jaime arc, you get one Ironiggers slog, one Dornishbrowns slog, one Meereen clusterfuck. Simply not worth it
>>222150478>>222150508Nope. He deserves the Aegon and Rhaeny's treatement. And Ned the Elia treatment for being such a cunt.
>>222150316That's a good retcon though. Might've gone a bit overboard with making Cersei the drunkest and most retarded woman ever though
>>222150319Because for all his perfection, all he did was get his dynasty overthrown, got himself killed, his wife killed, his lover killed, his children killed except for one who had to be raised under a false identity. He was also a coward that wanted to run away and was convinced by his 15 year gf to go into battle which lead to his death There’s not a single thing he did right. If he kept it in his pants with Lyanna, everything would have gone way more smoothly
>theory that rhaegar was expecting a daughter from lyanna is real Visenya Snow...
>>222150534>Might've gone a bit overboard with making Cersei the drunkest and most retarded woman ever thoughIt makes for the best chapters in feastI love that absolute mess of a woman
Why were people in ACOK making such a huge deal about the red comet if there had been another one just 15 years earlier?
>>222149898Because George, who I must reiterate is a fat fucking nigger, in his procrastination from finishing the main series has shifted to wheel spinning by developing endless prequel material to keep the franchise alive. There isn't much to go off of Pre-Conquest, so naturally most of that material will take place during the Targaryen Dynasty. Unless every one of your stories centers around nobles in open rebellion or smallfolk, your story will have to feature Targaryen main characters or at least factions willing to go along with them.This is a problem because the obvious initial intention is that their role in the story is the Evil Ass Inbred Rape House (TM) that serve as the foundation for Daenerys, who is meant to be the ultimate antagonist in the story as Martin's version of Sauron that he "tricks" the reader into rooting for as a commentary on war, violence, and the nature of evil. They need to be at least A LITTLE sympathetic. To get around this (and set up future franchise potential) he's leaned heavily into morally laundering all Targ debauchery and evil as the tragic consequence of chasing divine prophecy that is ultimately (nominally) for the greater good.Add to the fact that normalfags effectively saw Dany as the main hero of the series because of her 2010's popfeminist kitsch power fantasy scenes in the show, and the Targs have effectively become the protagonists and main face of the franchise. Specifically, as "The Daenerys House". George himself I think has fallen victim to this himself as evidenced by how hard he fawns over Daemon as his favorite "equal parts light and dark" character despite him being what can be best described as a parody of Prestige TV era anti-heroes who flits from one desperately try hard edgy stunt to the next with no through line.tl;dr - This scene doomed the franchise forever. I have to if wonder a large reason he's never finishing Winds is that he's hesitant to pull the trigger on Dany and the Targs being evil.
>>222150084>allies with YronwoodsExplain
>>222150533Hope Mark Addy sees this and has sex with you bro.
>>222150578Ew you fucking homo
>>222150577Stone Dornishmen are just Andals that found themselves on the wrong side of the Red Mountains. They even kept the male primogeniture
>>222150577Not Rhoynar, they are a bit more trustworthy
>>222150408thank you, only the books are canon, the play is a fanfiction
>>222150555Would that have made Cat more reasonable?
>>222150628>intrasexual female competitionNo lol
>>222148435If anyone says the play is canon just reply with this picture
>>222150530any sane writer would realise Jaime was the best character of the entire shitshow and pivot into making him the MC, but GRRM likes his targshits and starkshits too much
>>222150628She instantly changes her opinion of Mya Stone once she learns she's a bastard, so probably not. Probably seethe less though since a girl would be less of a threat to Robb.
It make sense why no winds now. George the lifelong simp got all this attention from young women dany Stans and he doesn’t want to draw their ire and hatred now
>>222150555Fem Jon and Robb would have banged as soon as possible right?
>The night was strangely beautiful. The moon was a graceful crescent, and it seemed as though he had never seen so many stars… How can such a night be beautiful? he asked himself. Why would the stars want to look down on such as me?
>>222150646Jaime gets a fair share of attention in swords and feast, he doesn't lack focusBook Tyrion and Jon work too, Dany is the weak link in the main cast
>>222150691R+L=J butchers Jon. His entire arc is coming to terms with being a bastard and committing to being a self-made man
The mentally sane kingThe only sane targ
>>222150172Always has been. People were theorizing that since the first book launched.
>>222150614>wrong side>beat the dragons while all the other Andals surrendered like pussieslol
>>222150652Until "Visenya's" Targ blood makes her start lusting for Robb and Cat gets paranoid about it
>>222150731>and committing to being a self-made manAnd he is, he didn't become lord commnader because of his parents, whom he doesn't knowWhen the realm finds out who he is he will ALREADY be a self made leader.
>>222150731Hes still a bastard for all the laws of Westeros: Targ polygamy was illegal
>>222150732Kek
>>222150732lol makes it kind of based that robert ruined their dynasty
>"No, father. The prophecy basically relies on me. I'm the key to all of-"
George is a fat faggot that probably gets pegged by his wife
>>222150555What would Ned have named a female Jon anyway
>>222150803Lyarra after his mom
>>222150759> When the realm finds out who he is he will ALREADY be a self made leader.That’s not the point of that. It’s never going to be revealed publically. Daenerys is going to find out and it’s going to make her schizo out because she’s supposed to the TPTWP not him. This is what it’s all leading to. Daenerys’ belief in her own self-importance and Jon’s existence completely deflating that
>>222150492
All bookfaggots talking about an uncanon play on /tv/ need to be killed
>>222150803Jeyne
>>222150784I’m sorry David and Dan….you saved us from apocalypse tier targwank
>>222150828stay mad non canon fag
>>222150828Its the only content you are getting for this shit show. Its your canon now.
>>222150731>R+L=J butchers Jon. His entire arc is coming to terms with being a bastard and committing to being a self-made manHe’s still a bastard from what we see in the play, he’s just Rhaegar’s bastard instead of Ned’s bastard though
>>222150816>Robb from Robert >Rickon from his father Rickard>Jon from Jon Arryn>Bran from the gorillion Brandon Starks Where did Ned and Cat get Arya and Sansa from
>>222150561because it's still a red comet and 15 years is a long time
>>222150691>Dany is the weak link in the main castDaenerys is excellently written. Bran is the worst of the main POVs
>>222150731>R+L=J butchers Jon. His entire arc is coming to terms with being a bastard and committing to being a self-made manNo it doesn't.His arc is coming to terms with being a bastard and then having a last temptation laid before him. Him choosing duty over status is the culmination of his arc.
>>222150672It's still Gurm's universe so definitely shortly after she gets her first period.
>>222150839how come none of the other great houses besides maybe the Greyjoys and Hightowers are magic
>>222150759He became Lord Commander through some bs tricks GRRM had to shoehorn in to justify a 14-15 year old being Lord Commander, passing by older, better connected and experienced brothers. Not to mention he got murdered by his own men because he's horrible at passing down information.Most of the early Jon chapters read like Bollywood trash where everyone hates the wife for no reason and there's an evil step mother (Thorne) but the main character pulls through anyway because they're so pure and cool and skilled
>>222150867sansa and arya are traditional northern names
>>222150784Pretty much proving that TPTWP was probably Bran/Bloodraven visions sent to Targaryens and Lyanna to fuck up the realm enough to prepare the world for King Bran. Jon didn’t save the world, Dany didn’t save the world, no Targaryens saved the world
>>222150867Arya was the name of Ned's grandma. There's been a historical Sansa Stark too
>>222150867His favorite Dornish salsa recipse
>>222150867Arya and Sansa are all names in the Stark family. like how they repeat Brandons and Rickons
>rhaegar dies because his underage side piece called him in the middle of battle to talk about propheciespottery
>>222150759>self-made man>Jeor's nepobaby>utter failure of a Lord Commander>will be handed the North due to being the only Stark (lol) that isn't a woman or literal child
>>222150867Was the famously honorable Jon Arryn offended at Ned naming a bastard after hin
>>222150731He litterally wouldnt give a fuck about his biologically parent's prophechy lunacy. He consider Ned his true father and all the characters that saw him act saw him as Eddard reborn. He will save the world by BTFO both the Ice zombies and his cursed crazy aunt, and then he will chill with his Wall and wildlings Bros forever
>>222150937>Lyanna saved Robert's lifepoetry in motion
>>222150828/got/ has always been a bookfag general, weird it hasn't been banished to /lit/ by now desu though seems impossible to enforce
>>222150914Bloodraven is a Targaryen though
>>222150951Jon Arryn was a soft old man from the way he is described
>>222150973Bloodraven is the most prolific Targshit killer.
all targ fucking shits and dornishkeks must hang
>>222150967>if only tv had one more obsession or odyssey thread instead of /got/!
>>222150903Greyjoys have immortal grey king starks have warg kings of winter. Tyrells are stewards of the line wiped out by Aegon but that line had kings who sit on wood thrones like weirwood.Basically every family links back to tree magic shit in the age before the andels came.>>222150967/got/ was originally a book thread on /lit/ but the show brought so much show meme spam that it was forever banished. right around the time HBO started making the first season of GoT.
Eddard Stark, the Saint of Westeros
>>222150867I can't believe that Bobby didn't have the balls to force Cersei to name Joffrey after Ned
>>222150937>Babe of course I'd still love you if you were a wor-ACK
BAKE THE NEW THREAD BEFORE I PISS MESELF
>>222151004at this point targs are also dornish mutts, they infused their mad schizo genes with dornish scheming and sexual deviancy genes. they must be stopped
>>222151017These faggots would rather have 30+ unoriginal spam threads than contain shit to a general that is active and keeps this board alive, Lord knows I only come to this godforsaken site to shitpost here.
Reminder there was a prophesy about Robert smashing the Targaryens to become king
>>222151025Joffrey is a neutral noble name that is found across all the Kingdoms. They probably settled for a neutral name to avoid clashes. Tommen is a Lannister name tho
>>222151040KekWomen, amiright guise
>>222150967all bookfag discussion forums are filled with women and faggots
>>222151106>>222151106>>222151106>>222151106MOVE, IN THE NAME OF THE ONE TRUE KING DAEMON
>>222151040He he he.Women, can't live with them, can't live without them.
>>222149725ESL who doesn't understand the nash meme: detected
>>222150790Based if true.
>>222149866Weird creepy ass post
>>222149484I don't see where this redditor is wrong though, making the entire Dornish cast degenerate schemers is ridiculous and they're right about Jaime's relationship with Rhaella in the book being betrayed and Rhaegar being completely whitewashed in this play like the Blacks in HotD.
>>222151025Robert clearly didn't care about his children. The one he cared the most about was Edric Storm kek
