does nothing wrong editionprev >>222152732
>>222155277What exactly was Brandon’s plan here?
Twitter a shit. GoT play QRD.1/3>Lyanna confirmed as The Kinght of the Laughing Tree>Lyanna gets together with Rhaegar of her own free will. The first act ends with them having a conversation under the weirwood tree after she’s been crowned QOLAB.>Elia is an active participant in Rhaegar’s plans to remove Aerys from the throne, half of it is her ideas>Aerys knows about Rhaegar’s plans and has a confrontation with him where he literally offers his neck and tells him to kill him. After Rhaegar doesn’t, Aerys makes fun of him and calls him a coward.>Robert is portrayed very sympathetically and is actively grieving his parents. At one point Aerys gifts him a model of his parents ship, which is just some splinters in a box of water.>Brandon x Ashara confirmed or at the very least heavily implied!>Rhaegar is plagued by dragon dreams, at one point he specifically mentions a dream about a three headed dragon with Lyanna there. Puppetry is used to show his dreams to the audience and there’s a really cool dragon puppet.>Elia and Rhaegar’s marriage is shown to be cordial, he confides in her about his dragon dreams.>Lyanna and Rhaegar are in love and she runs away with him willingly. Lyanna is also confirmed greenseer and communicates with Rhaegar via dreams, that’s how they plan their elopement. Benjen helps them.>Elia and Lyanna become penpals while Lya is at the TOJ. Elia doesn’t mind the Rhaegar/Lyanna relationship and mentions the idea of him having two wives likes Aegon I, one for love and one for politics.>As I mentioned, Elia and Lyanna are penpals. One of their ravens is intercepted by Varys and that’s how he discovers Rhaegar’s location, and Gerold Hightower is sent to find him.>Elia is very politically shrewd and while her marriage to Rhaegar is cordial she sees it as one of convenience, her main interest is making sure House Martell is in power.
>*teaches your kids some Dornish*
Ashara is a WHORE
>>222155306>We see the deaths of Rickard & Brandon, although there’s no actual fire involved at least for this performance. It’s a pit of smoke that is lit up green. But I’m told it looked pretty cool. The Iron Throne also looks very menacing>The only explicit childbirth scene is Ashara giving birth to her and Brandon’s stillborn child. Elia and Lyanna’s childbirths are not shown, we just see Lyanna’s water breaking at the TOJ and Elia goes into labor at Harrenhal.>No secret marriage between Rhaegar and Lyanna, and no naming of Jon as Aegon.>Lots of fight scenes for the war with extensive use of puppetry. Rhaegar has a dragon dream in the middle of the Trident which seemingly distracts him enough for Robert to kill him.>Aerys HATES Elia and says vile insults to her. He calls her a “Dornish mongrel bitch” to her face, and also says to Rhaegar “I can smell the stench of that Dornish bitch on you”>Robert wins the melee at Harrenhal, beating Oberyn and The Mountain. The Mountain is played by multiple actors as he is entirely a puppet and about 8 ft tall.>Ashara and Elia are actual lovers. It’s implied that Ashara is the love of Elia’s life. Ashara loves Elia, but she loves Brandon too. While she’s dancing with Ned, she talks to him about having multiple lovers.>Aerys doesn’t care about prophecy and rants to Rhaegar about it. Rhaegar loses faith, but Lyanna, after hearing of the deaths of her brother & father, latches onto it to justify it all as part of a divine plan and reignites Rhaegar’s belief>Lyanna has a lot of grief for what happens to her father and brother, blames it on herself. But ultimately she sees it as part of a divine plan, like the horrors were in service of some greater purpose/the prophecy>At Harrenhal, Rhaegar learns that Lyanna has been having dreams about the song of ice & fire, and feels that it’s his fate to be with her based on the prophecy. They have a vision of Dany and her dragons in the future
>>222155306>>222155326>There’s only one time a real sword fight happens and it’s between two ensemble characters for a few seconds only. All of the other fights are stylized and with heavy use of slow motion and puppetry.>The scene of Lyanna’s death/Jon’s birth occurs pretty much the same way as it did in GOT, with the only exception being that Jon is NOT named Aegon.>On the night of the red comet, Rhaegar has sex with Lyanna (conceiving Jon) and Aerys with Rhaella (conceiving Daenerys). It’s implied that they are both the prince that was promised, but no explicit confirmation for either>When comet appears Rhaella is summoned to Aerys room, she reveals her body is cut all over from his nails. Elia & Ashara try to stop her being taken by the KG but Rhaella talks about her duty & how she understands what’s expected of her>On the night of the red comet, Rhaella cries out a curse to the gods proclaiming that if she conceives a child it would not be a son but a vengeful daughter who would bring back dragons and burn the kingdoms.>Sack of KL is almost the same as the books. After Jaime kills Aerys and sits the throne, Robert & his men enter from one side of the stage, Tywin & Cersei from the other. Big canon contradiction since Robert isn’t present here in the books.>Lyanna does not hate Robert and their relationship is shown to be friendly, at least at Harrenhal. She comforts him after the boat thing. He is very charismatic so she gets the appeal, but she loves Rhaegar.>There’s a ton of Robert and Ned interactions, they are shown to be very close. After Robert wins the melee, Ned jumps into his arms. And at the end when Ned returns to KL after Lya’s death, Robert collapses in Ned’s arms, sobbing
>>222155305even before the play he was seen as a chimp tier retard who made Bobby B look like a honorable and responsible lord. So there was no plan other than struggling like an animal. Rickard should have just written him off as dead and never went to King's Landing, Ned was a far better heir anyway
>Ashara and Elia are actual lovers. It’s implied that Ashara is the love of Elia’s life. Ashara loves Elia, but she loves Brandon too. While she’s dancing with Ned, she talks to him about having multiple lovers.
how did ned find out where lyanna was
>WE'VE COME TO DIE FOR OUR DRAGON QUEEN! WHAT BETTER WAY TO DIE THAN BLADE IN HAND?!>Ok bro then fight me 2 v 1>Oh shit uuhhh BLACKWOOD QUICK SHOOT HIM
>>222155371>Rhaella cries out a curse to the gods proclaiming that if she conceives a child it would not be a son but a vengeful daughter who would bring back dragons and burn the kingdoms.My personal favorite for that webm
soon
>>222155371>>222155393>I have a vagina hear me roarPlay secretly written by Hess?
>>222155381Ashara and Varys likely knew where they were.
My POV in the next life.
>literally every single person Aerys accused of plotting to kill him actually was except for the two people he actually punished for it
>>222155438Alicent sucking the cock, Helaena eating the arsehole
>>222155388Why does Cregan Stark look so different?
>>222155306>>222155326>>222155349Why can't modern theater kids just make their own shit? Why do they just constantly rape established shit when they "create?"
>>222155438my condolences. you are stuck with ugly hags while mine is this
>>222155438>a cute green queen mommy and her troon friendbased
>>222155438>the last thing a tranny sees when they realize twnbaw
>>222155452commies know only how to destroy and/or change history for their mental illness
>>222155451No moisturiser in Westeros
>>222155318>Rob wanted that. MUH IRON PRICE idiots refused. The iron born are perpetual scum.I'm talking thousands of years before the main series the alliance should have existed. GRRM's worldbuilding is awful when you think about it for more than 5 seconds. The only explanation people have to cope with for Ironborn retardation is shit like "muh seastone chair drowned god brainwashing makes them retarded". The main series has so much ass pulling to bring about the Starks downfall where GRRM has things happen that go against his own worldbuilding because he started off with key events like the Red Wedding in mind and forced them to happen. ASOIAF really is the anti-LOTR because it gets worse the more you get into it, while LOTR you just appreciate more
>>222155447Rickard and Brandon were in on it. Rickard had southorn ambitions and intended to marry Brandon to Catelyn.
>>222155371do we have a percentage of how much of the Dornish nobility is bisexual degenerates based on those shown in the books? It has to be over 50% at this point. They become more of a parody with every new thing released
>>222155452This is all gurm approved.
>>222155491the Ironborn see both old gods and new as the same greenlander gods though. They feel no kinship with the North.
>>222155497>the North integrating with the rest of the realm is treason, not a sign they are finally accepting being part of a united realmTargshits are retarded
TAOOBA
So Aerys was vindicated and did nothing wrong? LOL
>I'm talking thousands of years before the main series the alliance should have existed. GRRM's worldbuilding is awful when you think about it for more than 5 seconds. The only explanation people have to cope with for Ironborn retardation is shit like "muh seastone chair drowned god brainwashing makes them retarded".>The main series has so much ass pulling to bring about the Starks downfall where GRRM has things happen that go against his own worldbuilding because he started off with key events like the Red Wedding in mind and forced them to happen. ASOIAF really is the anti-LOTR because it gets worse the more you get into it, while LOTR you just appreciate more
>>222155305>ooga booga were da Dornish women at?
>>222155371>dornish """people"""
>Creates a CIA, KGB, STASI tier mass surveillance intelligence that can strike anywhere and even kidnap/eliminate top leadersNo really how the fuck did he do it?
>>222155568never gonna be a meme bro
>>222155562They were building an alliance system through marriage bonds to bring down the Targaryen dynasty
>>222155569>aerys was a schizo who thought everyone was plotting against him!actually, everyone WAS plotting against him. bravo george
>>222155585is that what peak performance looks like?
>Lord Edmure, I hope I am not a disappointment to you.
The throne doesn't cut the unworthy. Remember there is power in king's blood and the chair had no use for Daemon, Aemonds or even Aegons but Rhaenyra bled on it her very first day. She has the blood that will bring the prince that was promise and thusly the chair is very interested just like the white hart
>>222155547>both are first men descendents>drowned god concept is almost identical to old gods, just for the ocean itself instead of rock, stream, etc. so they are basically extensions of the same Godseven ignoring that, enemy of my enemy is my friend. Zero logical reason not to work together against a common enemy, hence the illogical copes you are throwing around to justify it. GRRM slapped together his lore for most of the regions 20 years after he started the series and it's obvious
>>222155569he still triggered the rebellion and lost lol
>>222155617Top kek. BRAVO
>>222155656He gets the last laugh when his daughter later burns all the traitors
>>222155619He hasn't even begun to peak
So Oldtown was once ruled by the Iron Born, interesting
>>222155674then she dies and the house is gone lol
>>222155689they have a big ass fleet, big ass walls and a big ass army to man them
>>222153092I'm finding combat in this series frustrating. Characters have way too high power levels, dispatching people in a couple moves over and over again like a video game. Nobody takes a hit, falls down and gets back up again, they are slain in one stab.
>>222155585>Ormund strikes me with active measures
GRRM is washed
>>222155585The Queen can't even feed or pay her own people. I'm shocked he can't do more.
>>222155619That's not Unwin, tho.
>>222155601>only Catelyn marriage was planned>Robert made the offer for Lyanna only because he loved Ned so much and liked what he heard about his tomboy sisterif the plan was overthrowing the Targs, Robert would have been betrothed to Cersei soon after Aerys rejected her. Marrying Lyanna did nothing for an alliance
>>222155689when?
>>222155617The quote was always right
Is Rhaenyra's actress hot? I can't decide. Forget the mental illness, purely physically.
>>222155655Except the Ironborn don't view themselves as First Men. The secular among them believed them came from beyond the sunset sea, while the religious among them believed they just spawned from the ocean one day to fuck with the First Men.and they are completely right btw. The Ironborn are descended from the Empire of the Dawn and they had Valyrian steel before the Valyrians even existed
>>222155740>Robert made the offer for LyannaI thought it was arranged by his father Steffon and Richard Stark?
>>222155674Dany's aight. Chip off the old chudfather.
>>222155743Seemingly during Qhored I's era
>>222155756Empire of the Dawn never existed
>>222155752>Is Rhaenyra's actress hot?Yes but only when in costume, the way she styles herself irl is offputing
>>222155674>homeland reduced to a smoking ruin by Valyrians own hubris>targs escape like roaches>want to do the same to WesterosI believe the tales that Valyrians bred with demons now, truly an ontologically evil race that should be exterminated
>>222155740???The Lyanna marriage binds the Stormlands and North through bloodA North-Riverlands-Vale-Stormlands coalition has a good chance of toppling AerysTywin was playing his cards close and wouldn’t go all in
>>222155780oh he sacked itweird he didn't stay and hold it
>>222155306>>222155326>>222155349grim
>>222155782like my sex life.
>>222155817https://racefortheironthrone.wordpress.com/2016/11/21/politics-of-the-seven-kingdoms-the-iron-islands-part-i/There's fan maps saying he ruled the entire west coast so that should include Oldtown?
>>222155765no, Ned took the offer back to Winterfell for Bobby 2-3 years before Harrenhal. Mya was already born at that point, hence why 12-13 year old Lyanna was certain Robert wouldn't be loyal in all her wisdom
>>222155857:(
>>222155794>posts man with Nyarlathotep temple in his back yard
>>222155861book says he sacked it, not that he held itthat map conspicuously doesn't include all of the bay that has oldtown
>>222155780Oldtown was founded by the Ironborn. One of their early king is named Urrigon. The only culture in Westeros that uses the -on suffix is the Ironborn, with the exception of the Valyrians that came later.
>>222155752She cute
>>222155752Of course.
>>222155895>Hightowers have Valyrian features>similar namesI guess Oldtown was a Valyrian colony
Once again, less is more. No, I didn’t need to know all this gay shit.p, but at least we know what GRRM has been up to.
Were they vindicated, after all?
>>222155899>>222155902Hunter Schafer looking zesty
>>222155886Fair enough
>>222155895Trvth Nvke.It is no coincidence that the tale of the children of Garth portrays Uthor of the High Tower as an interloper who steals the intended bride of another, representing the theft of land and women from a native house.
>>222155800Vale alliance wasn't tied by blood either, Jon Arryn only married Lysa because his heirs died. Robert would have fought with Ned regardless of blood ties. And Tywin was looking into marrying Jaime to Lysa before that. He wanted in on the alliance even without guaranteeing his daughter would be queenif it was planned from day 1 to overthrow the Targs, Robert would have been betrothed to Cersei way earlier. Robert was slumming it by marrying Lyanna, it only made sense if he was doing it out of emotion rather than maximizing political gain
>>222155930There's a whole rabbit hole regarding that. The Ironborn, the Daynes and the Hightower are all outpost of the Empire of the Dawn on Westeros. They are all connected to the oil black stone.
>>222155930That is actually one of the in-universe theories put forth in the world of ice and fire.
>>222155953You are pretty based for citing Racefortheironthrone. It's a great source for analyzing the lore.
>>222155930>The origins of Oldtown are lost to time. The oldest runic records of the First Men, as well as records from maesters that claim to have lived among the children of the forest, confirm men have lived at the mouth of the Honeywine since the Dawn Age. Maester Jellicoe suggested the settlement at Whispering Sound began as a trading post where ships from Valyria, Old Ghis, and the Summer Isles could resupply and trade with so-called "elder races".[2]Not overly off the mark>>222155895https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Urrigon_HightowerThis guy? This seems to be a while after the rise of the city so not really the founder
>>222153223>>222153308I'm still asking for a name
>>222155930Don't go down the rabbit hole left by the deep ones. They'll claim it's the empire of dawn, but it's really just theyre all children of grrms Lovecraft monsters
>>222155989Honestly just stumbled onto it, might give it a flick through but my enthusiasm for the franchise is flagging for obvious reasons
>>222155930hightowers have Valyrian features because the whore Rhaena married a Hightower post dance because the blacks are retarded I guess(let's marry the last dragonrider to the people who helped kill them all). Not surprisingly her dragon died for unknown reasons shortly after she moved to Oldtown
>>222155961Ned and Robert were raised by Jon Arryn
You just know she licked Brandon's sweaty hairy northern butthole
>>222155895the fucking peakes have a guy called urrathon peake, there doesn't seem to be an actual "cultural" naming rule outside of certain dynasties using alliterative and names that start with a certain letter
>>222156020I get it, I feel the same way. But the author (who has since passed away) did really cool write-ups on the histories of each kingdom. Fun reads.
>>222155316shave your arms whore
>>222156030how do we even know if brandon was her kid's father. it could have been many other guys...
Will grrm write in dany’s experimental whore phase in TWOW. Seems like something he’d want to touch on.
>>222155585The advantage is ours, greenguys
>>222156021they had them before rhaena, and rhaena married a cousin not in the line of succession
>>222156044>(who has since passed away)Oh RIP, that sucks. I suppose we're entering that period where if someone was middle aged at the release of the series they'll be coming to the end of their natural lives now, sad.
>>222156044nta. so it's fanfiction?
WE LIGHT THE WAY!!!!!!!!
>>222156064see he doesn't have time to write. maybe if he was 35 again and the day had 31h...
>Brandon and Ashara married>Their stillborn child survives>It’s a boyWhat does Ned do?
>>222155585its over for the savage queen
>>222156074Yeah it sucks. He was doing chapter-by-chapter political analysis reviews but died before he could finish ASOS>>222156080huh? he looks at the lore, he doesn't write stories about it
>>222156030NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOASHARA WAS PURESHE SHARED STOLEN GLANCES, HANDS, AND CHASTE KISSES WITH NED AND MADE LOVE TO HIM UNDER A WEIRWOOD TREEGEORGE YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT
>>222156025that's the point, Jon Arryn was willing to fight only out of affection for them. Robert would have done the same even without Lyanna being his wife. So the targshit cope that Rickard deserved death because he was playing 4D chess to overthrow the Targs is retarded. Reality is that Rickard became friends with Hoster, Jon Arryn, and Steffon during the last blackfyre rebellion and it was all just a continuation of that friendship to benefit their kingdoms. Targs brought their own downfall by being insane schizos, they aren't victims of evil scheming lords
>>222155752I wouldn’t say “hot”, but she’s definitely an attractive woman (but as >>222155792 anon said only when she’s in costume). Despite Darcy’s shitty acting, I enjoy watching her much more than monke Alcock
Our sweet Cersei
>they call him daeron the daring>he's done nothing that's daring his whole life
Lena is too haggy for Cersei. Cersei should have been played by Margot Robbie
>>222155534>im sorry georgukunu, prease dont alter the lore enrymore, I wont talk about you taking too long
>>222156130>*puts on peg leg and pirate hat*
>>222156119why did george betray uswhy do chads always get the girl...
https://www.westeros.org/Features/Entry/A_Note_on_The_Mad_King_and_Canongrrm's biggest crony has spoken
>>222156122>Targs brought their own downfall by being insane schizos, they aren't victims of evil scheming lords>maester conspiracy>hightower conspiracy>faith conspiracy
>>222156140all those cool and interesting things you like from F&B?le green propagander
>>222155895>The only culture in Westeros that uses the -on suffix is the IronbornAron SantagarArron QorgoyleBalon SwannBalon ByrchBarron DurrandonBenethon ScalesBeron StarkByron SwannCalon of WinterfellDamon DarryDamon PaegeDamon TeagueDamon VyprenDamon ShettDamon LannisterDamon MarbrandDamon MorrigenDickon TarlyDickon ManwoodyDickon Morrigen
>ashara is a WHORE>still kills herself after a stillbirthque?
>>222155930Valyria is Rome, oldtown is york, Uthor Hightower is Uthor pendragon, Peremore the twisted is king arthur
>>222156125they're stunning and brave!
>>222156148Margot isn't nearly hot enough for Cersei
>>222155792For irl we have Hunter. Basically the same, but with penis
>>222156180Only corrective rape can fix her.
>>222156183Those are all ironborn.
>>222156198But in a subversive way, the way that bran stark is King Arthur
>>222156072we've got a single hightower with confirmed silver hair, Mace's wife. And her mother is unknown. And it's unknown if cousin marriages brought Targ blood back into the mainline Hightowers
>>222155895ai hallucinating type answer frfr, what are you doing on here unc
>>222156204>>222156210>get to have hunter with bussy>also get to hunter with pussyhuge win for us pansexualchads
>>222156223*all Codd bastards
>>222156140He didn't stand with his back to the wall around Gay-wayne, that's pretty daring
>>222156198Oh….
>>222156226we've got hightowers before with the hair, it's done lol
>>222156226Jorah's wife was Lynesse Hightower and he makes it explicit that Daenerys looks like her.
>>222156130>>222156148>>222156206Cersei needed a 11/10 cum in your pants if she brushes against you thot actress. Not sure any exist. Maybe blonde (pre-bog) prime Megan Fox?
>>222156204Would both
>>222156225Bran Stark is Brân the Blessed.>>222156226Didn't Jaeherys mistake Alicent for Saera on his deathbed?
>>222156198HOLY SHIT
>>222156140Instead of actually showing the Battle of the Honeywine or it's aftermath where Daeron gets his nickname and knighthood. All we get is a name drop by a Hightower soldier pausing between rapes.
>>222156250He hoped Gwayne would make a move so he could top him.
>>222156276George: I’ve had a million people tell me that was the moment that hooked them, where they said, “Well, this is just not the same story I read a million times before.” Bran is the first viewpoint character. In the back of their heads, people are thinking Bran is the hero of the story. He’s young King Arthur. We’re going to follow this young boy – and then, boom: You don’t expect something like that to happen to him. So that was successful [laughs].
Grace Kelly would have been perfect. Well, her eyes were blue not green but almost perfect
>>222156183>Dickonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0OmcFpvvF8
>>222156276They both bounced on it the same way.
>>222156269GRRM's previously said (90's) Nicole Kidman would have been his ideal Cersei.He pretty blatantly models a lot of ASOIAF women after celebrities he's coomed to. Arianne is based on Apollonia from Purple Rain, for another example.
>>222156311>Dickon ManwoodyPeak gurm name, just after Uther Shett.
>>222156330Yeah she could work
>>222156330give us Grace
>>222156198Instead of a knights of the round; there was a knights of the star. That’s where greykings starfish table comes from
>>222156303He's saying that Bran isn't young king Arthur.
>>222156330Funny, her impact on His Dark Materials made Pullman completely change the descriptions of Coulter in later editions.
>>222156340>Uther ShettThat will always be funny.
>>222156375>becomes king He was being cheeky
>>222156119>GRRM makes a lady designed to be mysterious, associated with 2 of the most honorable guys in the realm via Ned and Barristan. Able to make even Barristan regret his vows>would make Ned a more interesting and tragic character if he had fucked her and planned to marry her before the rebellion>actually she's just another Dornish whore getting a train ran on her at Harrenhal and having Elia lick out the cum>and her brother, the greatest knight of his age is fagmy expectations were subverted, these play writers are simply on another level. The Starks are obviously all black as well, that's always what GRRM intended of course
>>222155277Why are all Rhaegarboos always foids and jeets? Always without fail
>>222156309>>222156356Grace is beautiful. You need a lustful hottie for Cersei.
>>222156371I’ve been trying to make this Arthurian westeros shit a thing for a while and no one buys it, but it’s fucking TRUE why won’t anyone believe me
>>222156269Very true
>Plot leaks for a prequel play are more culturally significant than every other fantasy author combined
>>222156340And Dick Crabb
>>222156418>Grace is beautiful. You need a lustful hottie for Cersei.That's kinda the point, Cersei is meant to be classically beautiful and gentle looking, it makes her cruelty more shocking
>>222156011I found it
>>222156269Dakota Blue Richards' massive tits
>>222156453post them
>Why are all Rhaegarboos always foids and jeets? Always without fail
>>222156448congrats on finding the name out of the most mid looking bitch ive seen in my life
>>222156456google.com
>>222156432Yeah, it's why there's no way his estate and publishers will allow the main series to remain unfinished when dies. The only books on the same level are Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings. Way too much money and public interest involved.
>>222156173>hightowers already schemed to overthrow them during Maegor's reign>do nothing about them>maester's hating magic is made pretty clear by the fact so few study magic>the citadel is right next to the Hightower, the people who schemed against you>trust the maester's completely>starry sept is right next to the Hightower>do nothing after the faith uprising>Hightowers start a civil war that kills off the dragons>do nothing to punish them after winning the warif the Targs are too retarded to see the trend, maybe they deserve it
>>222156458It's a coincidence that every female in the books is still lusting after Rhaegar more than a decade after his death.
>>222156413Ayo da Starkz be outchea yofrfr winter comin yall
Reminder that obviously Robert beat Rhaegar up at the trident and the play was just fanfic to dramatize the pathethic targshitter deathhttps://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1785345272292590.mp4
>>222156448Well, share with the class
Why did the Targs fail to beat Dorne every time?
>>222156490TRUTH NUKE
>>222156488"Maybe the real kino will be the very messy and public legal disputes after his death">decades long legal case>publishers finally win to publish more cobbled together slop>whoops, too late, nobody cares anymore AND WHO ARE YOU!
>>222156522Daeron objectively beat Dorne and they had to resort to cheap assassinations during a peace deal
>Reminder that obviously Robert beat Rhaegar up at the trident and the play was just fanfic to dramatize the pathethic targshitter death
>>222155752Her nose is.
>>222156458Gods, he was strong then
>>222156522plot armor. That's it. The Targs beat them all and installed garrison everywhere, which the sandniggers magically took back within weeks simultaneously. The fat retard forgot a garrison of 100 could hold off thousands in every castle for years
>/got/ has been the most active thread on /tv/kek board is ded
>>222156488they should let theatre school kids finish the rest atp
>>222156546implying it hasn't been this way since S1 of GoT
>>222156530>Daeron died because they kept resistingSo he objectively lost>>222156544Mayhaps their knowledge of the castles helped them retake them?
what did he mean by this?
The ship that was promised. Westeros was doomed the second it didn't become reality. He could have fixed her.
>>222156543>WAIT! WAIT ROBERT! I FEEL A VISION COMING ON! BY THE GODS STO-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
>>222156538so true>>222156204>>222156210
>>222156562that's not how it works. knowing the layout of the castle wouldn't magically teleport you inside it.
>>222156529>legal disputehis estate will be ran by his golddigging wife or some niece or nephew. They will maximize how much money they can make. GRRM doesn't have a son like Christopher Tolkien who cared more about his father's legacy than money. There's a reason shit like Rings of Power only became possible after he died
>haha, you're a very pretty 14 year old you know. Oh, my wife? Don't mind her she's okay with it
>>222156544Dorne gypsies with 1 (one) fucking town built on planks are pure author wank.Targs could have wiped them easily. Even Baratheons on their own could have done it.
>>222156573he was coping
>>222156573I think he's trying to say that Jon Snow is like a bunch of cats tied together.I dunno. English isn't my first language.
>>222156543
>>222156590>We saw you across the tourney and thought you looked interesting
>>222156584lets someone know which postern gate to open for the garrison to be slaughtered, as has happened in real life
>>222156508https://www.instagram.com/liliannakruk/
>>haha, you're a very pretty 14 year old you know. Oh, my wife? Don't mind her she's okay with it
>>222156589Isn't he going to put it into a tightly controlled trust or something like that?
>>222156609overrated
>>222155306>Benjen helps them.Fucking gay traitorous little retard deserved what he got
>>222156575>Cersei feeling content for the first time in her life and hating it
>>222156573Pussy = vagina, faggot = gay, he was subtly implying that he was gay for liking girls and getting laid with the wilding whore, straight men of the knights watch dont like pussy
>>222156609You aight White boy >no existing thread on gooning sitesAh well
I want to argue about somethingSomeone pick a house, take an opinion, and let's argue
>>222156606postern gates are rarely ever open-able from both sides, otherwise a single snitch is all it takes to take out a castle. Disregarding that, mind you this happened simultaneously across every castle that the Targs garrisoned in Dorne.
>>222156621>family approves release of "A Tune of Fire and Ice: Legally not the Winds of Winter"GRRM can't do shit, hell he's legally obligated to publish Winds considering he took the advance money from his publisher
>>222156590>>222156618Do you think he ever let Jon Con prep him?
>>222156495Most of them had never even seen the targ
>>222156700>he's legally obligated to publish WindsIs there a time limit on that? Guessing not if it's been 15 years
>>222156573BASTID OF THE NOUTH
>>222156683BlackwoodDo you think Criston would give Larys a footjob if Alicent asked him to?
The day where George with his last breath canonizes every fanfiction, theory and adaptation at the same time draws ever near
>tfw d*rnoid rats are finally exposed>tfw ironborn now have a friend in the 'worst people in westeros' categorykek!
>>222156573we all kinda liked this guy, didn't we?
>>222156685not from both sides lol, from the inside. the lore establishes that the dumbass targs kept the local dornish as servants, so they were in place to open said postern gates. and historically most castles fell due to treachery or starvation, not being stormed.
>>222156727why do you think he won't just publicly admit he's not going to finish it to get the heat off him? Because then his publisher could go after him
>>222156506KEK rhaegarcels BTFOd once more
>>222156763>tfw ironborn now have a friend in the 'worst people in westeros' categoryRivercucks existed.
>>222156777More like it would kill any interest in the series
>cast Hugh's wife as an Indian>she leaves him because he doesn't smell like shitwhat did they mean by this?I don't know how they will justify his defection in the show either, you'd think he would hate the Greens even more for terrorising his wife
>>222156763qrd?
>>222156801non canon material
>>222156475Congrats on outing yourself as a massive faggot. You may proceed to suck cocks.
>>222156777Bit weird to write into a contract that you have to finish a book/series but there's no time limit on it, just for him to push it to the extreme where literally decades pass and he'll soon croak
>>222156745>George the Unworthy
>>222156198>>222156225There’s also the myth of bran the builder building the Hightower, further hinting at a parallel between bran and perry. Peremore is another spelling of paramore, he was the wed to the trees as a greenseer king, and had to find a way for all these different cultures and religions to live in peace together after barbarians invaded and the walkers came, just like how bran will have to reconcile the Dothraki and the rhollorists and the golden company and the freefolk after the long night. The giant wierwood eventually became a white tower, and the citadel evolved over time into what it is today
>>222156794I’m dying on the hill that only Ulf turns, Hugh attacks him to defend his wife and the two end up taking each other out.
>>222156794>Hugh has the first shower in his life>she gets the ick
>>222156745>>222156837Would be unfathomably kino
>>222155568THAT'S TAOOBA!
>>222156852And Nyra thinks they both turned so Addam has to fight to death to clear his and his brothers names?
>if there will be a battle many of you will die as wellwhat did Cole mean by this? there were like 20 of them lmao
>>222156772I have fire and blood right here and I need you to give me the exact timestamp where is it said that the castles were taken because the Targs kept the old Dornish servants inside the castles. Fucking niggers retook like 4 major castle simultaneously
>>222156198Oldtown is Constantinople
>>222156899and people ask why dorne is pure reddit
>>222156915no it's obviously Alexandria with the big library and the huge lighthouse
>>222156884TAOOBA!
That latest episode was really terrible. Assassin Alicent is the most retarded idea they've come up with to date. I don't have high hopes for Tumbleton finale. I think Daeron is a goner and won't do anything cool or daring.
Just finished the HEDGE KNIGHT and man it's absolute kino. I've been a fan of asoiaf for awhile but when I first read them there wasn't an omnibus of the dunk and egg stories so I never botheredI think Feast and Dance suck ass and killed the series so I forgot that GRRM is actually a pretty great writer and after reading the hedge knight I think I'm a believer in his talents again. Can't wait to read the rest of the novellas and watch AKOTSK
>>222156895twenty good men...
Gaymond Tardgayryen
>>222156947But it contains the head of the faith, Canterbury?
>>222156915King's Landing is Constantinople
>>222156899>timestamp>in a bookit's in A Storm of Swords, Oberyn talks about iti wouldn't trust Fire and Blood, aside from being written by a (((maester))) in the very blurb you're citing it says that an 80 year old blind woman confined to a wheelchair >threw< a full grown man
>>222156578> My horse took an arrow so I was on foot, slogging through the mud. He came running at me, this dumb prince lad, thinking he could end the rebellion with a single swing of his sword. I knocked him down with the hammer. Gods, I was strong then. Caved in his breastplate. Probably shattered every rib he had. Stood over him, hammer in the air. Right before I brought it down he shouted, "WAIT! WAIT ROBERT! I FEEL A VISION COMING ON! BY THE GODS STO-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!" They never tell you how they all shit themselves. They don't put that part in the songs. Stupid boy.
>>222156899>recaptured these castles in a fortnight>GRRM doesn't even attempt to explain how because he can't>"they just appeared from nowhere"lmao, what a hack
>>222156986lol
>>222156988give me the timestamp nigga. I ain't trusting no nigga on this here mongolian wool spinning site
>>222156979>CoEkek
>>222156915Volantis is right there man, right there.
>>222157007Dornefags can literally appear and vanish out of nowhere, rebuild everything in a week and consume stones and sand.
>>222156876I must agree
>>222156934Makes it ironic that Reddit hates Dorne and loves the Targaryens.
>>222157027That's Ravenna
>Robert can you just let me finish watching this prophetic drea-ACK
>>222157027Volantis is India.
FUN FACT: Aemond's eye is blue as a nod to the blue eyed giant Macumber
>>222157003kino
>>222157003>>222157052Now the real question, what the fuck is bloodraven's fucking problem? Couldn't he wait 10 minutes?
>>222157073Short break between gooning to Shiera sessions.
>>222157017sorry man, i don't have the book handy. you don't have to trust me, it's not like it really makes a difference either way since it already happened. i just wanted to try and explain a part of the fluff that is justifiably confusing. the alternative is a headcanon that the dornish spearmen must have formed human pyramids to get over the walls and take the castles lol.
>>222157068Saar we are dragon riders saar
>>222156899Yo where can I read fire & blood for fwee with no gay sign-ups
>>222157052>>222157073>You gotta see this, Rhaegar. Funniest shit I’ve ever seen. He turns himself into a pickle.
>>222157052>https://youtu.be/ikFpnlyDPWQ?si=3r995gmX3j-R0vu-&t=6
>Robert can you please stop assaulting me, my onboard precog software powered by the weirwood net is lagging and I'm having trouble predicting your attacks to properly counter them >*thwack*
Robert was disarmed. Rhaegar had his sword to his neck and asked him to yield. Then the dragon dream happened.
>>222157104https://fliphtml5.com/ohqzs/aykx/Fire_and_Blood_pgs_1-350/
>>222157070House Macumber when?What kingdom would it be from?
>>222156915Oldtown is old enough to be many things
>>222157118According to non-canonical sources, of course.
>>222157118So? He didn't yield and wasn't honourbound to not batter him silly
it may have been mentioned before I dunno, but I was watching some random video about the episode and this guy had a theory that Alys is actually Elissa Farman in cursed form. Elissa did go by the alias Alys when she ran away too, that along with the conversation about being cursed and the eggs, I dunno. Seems like the sort of shit they'd make up.
>>222157098no the alternative is that Dorne just has plot armor because it's written by a hack with brown people fetish
>>222157116>>222157118kek
>>222157133>According to non-canonical sources, of course.
>>222157118>non canon>headcanon
>>222157139i mean i'd considered spearmen forming human pyramids to get over castle walls a form of plot armour toostill, can't hate him for his brown girl fetish >>222155316
>>222156964D+E is some of his best work.
Of course the play is canon* you doofuses*canon to the show
>>222157118Not canon btwWhat actually happened is that before dying Rhaegar had delusions about having won
>>222156964Lucky fucker you’re in for a kino ride
>>222157183It's not even canon to the show because the show doesn't have Whent
>>222157073>bloodraven didn't even exist until Feast>now gets blamed for everythingdumbest character GRRM ever introduced to the series. His existence makes the plot fall apart>literally has an undead wight working for him with coldhands>could have sent him to the wall 20 years ago, have him tell the Watch that Others and wights like him are real, they need dragonglass>instead he does nothing, because he didn't exist in the early books
>>222157120>only 350 pagesUhhhhh...?
>>222156964>Can't wait to read the rest of the novellas and watch AKOTSKit's a very quick watch, if you don't do the after episode commentary stuff it's only 6 episodes of like 40-45 minutes a piece I believeI forget when the next season is but hopefully sooner than the 2 years for HotD
>>222157209>implying Bloodraven wants to stop the OthersThere is a reason they don't enter his cuckcave.
>>222157217The second half is on the site, the book is just split in two
I love Margaery
>>222157209Bloodraven is fine if he actually dies normally after his tenure as Lord Commander
>>222157118Yeah right, sounds like targ cope to me
>>222157246Is f&b really only 700 pages? I thought it was meant to be THE loredump book with all the accounts and details
they should have a scene where Ulf gets drunk and cooks a dragon egg by accident, gets slapped again, and that's what ends his black alliance for good
>>222157265it's a loredump on the first half of the Targaryens
What are prestons thoughts on it all? Despite him being a raging liberal (I am apolitical) I still respect his judgements the most because hes the least delusional about George
>>222156951TAOO-BAH!
>>222157287Who cares about what a CIA glownigger thinks
>>222157287Not uploaded yet, he just had a baby
>>222157262>Bloodrcaen is fine if he isn't a time travelling psychic magician Woah no shit
Would you rather be Lord of Highgarden or Oldtown?For me I see advantages in both. Oldtown is superior obviously in soft power and liquid wealth. But Highgarden means you're paramount
fill it out
>>222157287no such thing as apolitical. you are either a leftist or a nigger raping nazi
>>222157287Didn't you hear? The Iranians killed him, god is good
>>222156844Peremore has been the greenseer king for the last 8000 years He is dying and needs an heir, bran is this heir but Euron wants his blood to be the next greenseer king. The original wierwood is still inside the stone of the Hightower and Peremore is in there
Taooba would be a good band name
>>222157265Fire & Blood is part 1, from Aegon the Conqueror to Aegon III's regency. Part 2 is allegedly called Blood & Fire and it will be released never ever.
>>222157339Taoobalur bells
>>222157287>Despite him being a raging liberal (I am apolitical)If you're apolitical you wouldn't give a shit about his politics retard
>>222157319Highgarden looks prettier and would probably smell better with all the flowers
>>222156975Straightest man in the show albeit
>>222157334Windless post.
>>222157317shieeet anotha?
if we take the play seriously, Jon really got cucked on his genetics>parents good looks are legendary>Jon is plain and looks like Ned>Lyanna skilled enough to beat knights in a joust and an amazing rider, Rhaegar is excellent at jousts and an elite swordsman>Jon is mid-tier fighter>Lyanna is a warg and greenseer with no training, and unlike any other greenseer she isn't physically weak as a consequence like Varamyr, Jojen, or Bran>Rhaegar had dragon dreams>Jon can't even warg Ghost properlywhat a loser, prophecy baby my ass. Ned was probably disgusted after so many people died for him to be born
>>222157265no such book. There's A world of Ice and Fire that is about general history and worldbuilding. Fire and Blood is more specifically about the Targs.
>>222157377That’s his third, a girl
>>222157378He's also not mentally insane like eitherSo yeah, got off alright
>>222157355>retard thinks politics exists in some special vacuum and isnt simply judgement, or thought lol retard
>>222157349So Fire & Blood that everyone quotes and uses as a reference, is really just 350 pages? That's what I'm trying to knowOr if it's actually longer but anon is a fag and (un)knowingly gave me the trial version
>>222157378which makes him based. Ain't nobody got time for your prophetic bullshit I just wanna bang redhead bushy gf and be a brooding emo
>>222157378He's healthy and not a psycho obsessed with prophecy so it could have been worse
>>222157402>Retard thinks he's apolitical while judging somebodies politics
>without you I'm just a silhouette
>pulling out your dick and rubbing it on a weirwood's face and then calling Bloodraven a faghahaha, got him!
>>222155326>Ashara and Elia are actual lovers. It’s implied that Ashara is the love of Elia’s life. Ashara loves Elia, but she loves Brandon too. While she’s dancing with Ned, she talks to him about having multiple lovers.>Love of your life is another woman who goes around fucking dudes and getting knocked up by themDoes Elia just have a cuckquean fetish or something? What the fuck is wrong with dornish bitches?
>>222157430Aegor did that.
>>222157334Leyton (or malora pretending to be him) has locked himself in the tower because he knows Peremore is dying and a new heir needs to be found. I think Malora will join forces with Euron to birth this heir but Euron and oldtown will be destroyed by dany which breaks the seal on the wall
>>222157430Bloodraven is just extremely gay and not a cuck at all. He wanted the knights to bang him and just self inserted into Shiera. Him loving her was more so a way to have access to her network of men. That he indeed loved her for
>>222157439Who cares? None of it’s canon.
>>222157430>>222157441Is that how Bloodraven lost an eye?
>>222157439The implication is that Elia didn't love Rhaegar, she loved Ashara. After giving birth to Aegon she was fine with them having a platonic relationship and letting him go off with another woman, as long as her son was heir.
>>222155326>Lyanna, after hearing of the deaths of her brother & father, latches onto it to justify it all as part of a divine plan and reignites Rhaegar’s belief>Lyanna has a lot of grief for what happens to her father and brother, blames it on herself. But ultimately she sees it as part of a divine plan, like the horrors were in service of some greater purpose/the prophecyOh I hate this shit. Why does she have to also a super autist obsessed with muh prophecy instead of just a dumb girl who falls for the melancholic prince? Why can't she just be a tomboy who doesn't want to marry a drunk who fucks a load of whores?
>>222157403The complete book is on the website but is split into two PDFs for whatever reason - but (BUT) Fire & Blood does not cover every Targaryen because George is quite literally incapable of finishing any work. It only covers Aegon I up to the regency of Aegon III
>>222157394well at least she's not having half her cock cut off
>>222157403It has 736 pages, just download it from Anna.
wine, not oiloil will kill him
>>222157441didn't he die before Bloodraven became a tree
>that part in the play where Elia forces Lyanna to peg Rhaegar as she watches
>>222157491Anna?
>>222155349>Sack of KL is almost the same as the books. After Jaime kills Aerys and sits the throne, Robert & his men enter from one side of the stage, Tywin & Cersei from the other. Big canon contradiction since Robert isn’t present here in the books.Is this meant to be after Ned finds him, or has it been retconned that they found him first? Robert is also meant to be too fucked up, right? And why the fuck is Cersei there?
>>222157523anna's archive
Fuck Dornishment
>>222157461No I get that, I'm talking about how the apparent love of her life Ashara is going around fucking a bunch of dudes and she's seemingly okay with it?
>>222157512He knew he will be able to see the past.
The shit I hate most about this shit is that Dany fans went from slandering Jon Snow to suddenly saying they're both part of the process Bitch. You called him Jon Snore a month ago and now that Dany is confirmed a vengeance seeking demon baby you're trying to leech of Jon's protagonism
>>222155326>Ashara loves Elia, but she loves Brandon tooHow does she love Brandon, have they ever met before? Are Brandon and Elia both cucks?
bastids
I refuse to accept the play as canon
>>222157546You need to pay in that shithole to download it, there's no free downloads there, not even the "slow ones" because they redirect you to the donate pageAnon specifically asked for a source where you don't need to sign up in the first placeSomeone posted a mega with all books in pdf which is how I got it but I'm phone posting so I can't share it
Fuck Ironborn and Dornishment
You anons don't get George's vision, the play was made just to make Arthur Dayne gay and Ashara a whore so people will think Darkstar isn't the most gay and lame Dayne.You will call him Darkstar, as he is from the night. (and not a homo)
>>222157319I would probably enjoy oldtown more, you get both the benefits of a bustling city and the countryside as no doubt the Hightowers can afford a mansion in the hillsI get to meet people from the citadel and trough the port I can get exotic goods from essos ALSO I get to learn weird magic in secret
>>222157682He's altering the lore to piss off the chuds telling him to finish the books
>>222156573>>222156765I dunno he was ultimately a faggot poser.Would have been based if he had actually challenged Jon directly and openly to a duel or some shit. Instead he turned out to be a backstabbing jew that went out with a "no u".
>>222157692Some may say he's...raping it
>Yo rhaegar check this ou- am I calling at a bad time? I can call you later>Rhaegar!?!?!?! Is everything alright?!?!
>>222156573Ser Alliser did nothing wrong and got the best sendoff of all GoT characters. Bastid.
Is Allister dead in the books?
>>222157629Anna doesn't have free download options anymore?
>>222157619you don't have to, grrm already said it isn't
Reminder that the actresses' playing Elia and Ashara are two negress'. People paid money for gay niggers to act gay on a stage.
>>222157692>piss of chuds>turns the mad king into the imperial grand chud of shitposting and proves almost everyone was really out to get him>Doubles down on the mad queen Dany with a her evolving into the blood curse of rhaellaI'd say he pandered to the chuds
>>222157523Nevermind. Here, frenhttps://file.kiwi/68191f97#mWRdoWXW504PQaZlYYpKVwWith illustrations, epub format
>>222157042Reddit doesn't like Dorne because even Reddit can figure out with enough time that it's purely GRRM's brown woman fetish. Reddit loves the Targs because for some reason they've become woke-coded (probably HOTD making the Velaryons black) and the Andals are now chud-coded.
>>222157736>Yo Rhaegar, waaaaassssup!
>wtf how can desert people defeat invaders?!
>Ned didn't end up a cuck and was disgusted by Ashara's whoredom>Got fish pussy insteadOnly character who didn't come out of this looking worse
you niggers really are having this much problem over finding a pirate site for book? Are you freshly here from reddit?try oceanofpdf
>>222157767Thanks anonNow I won't be bored everyday at work
>>222157461actually she tries to have her daughter installed as heir because that's never caused any giant civil wars
>>222157523My aunt
>>222157760>but rhaegar was stronger in the battle than previously thought They see Robert as the king of the chuds so him still winning but “less gloriously” is a huge win for them. Even though rhaegar is a chud himself
>>222157629Nah I just downloaded it from Anna and put it on a file share site >>222157767Free and "slow" option, it only took a few seconds with the 1st option. Are you sure you're not on a fake site? You can find the real host links on the wikipedia page of anna's archive.
>>222157471The only thing to take away from it is that Lyanna is actually pretty superficial because she's fine being Rhaegar's bit on the side even though the alleged reason she didn't want to marry Robert is because he was a man whore. The real reason has to be because she wants a sensitive nerd and not the sweaty jock.
>>222157802You gotta realize a lot of zoomers and basically the whole of gen alpha never learned to google or scour obscure sites for pirated content. Probably can’t sus out a download link in a ad riddled warez site and definitely don’t remember zippyshare rapidshare megaupload before mega or kazaa limewire etc. heck a lot of these ppl can’t even into torrents
Ned... had a hard life.
>>222157873He was a saint.
>>222157776If the desert is right next door and you outnumber them 20 to 1 they will not win.
>>222157862I just type '[title] pdf online' in yandex
Are there any vampire houses besides Bolton, Lothston and Whent?
>>222157569She was a slut
>>222157873apparently the reason why Arryns never show up in the story is because they're too good for Westeros judging by Ned's upbringing
>>222157873>>222157880He seems to be the only fucking sane one of that brood of Starks. Lyanna is an autist, Benjen a little faggot helping her elope, Brandon was into sloppy seconds when he had prime fish pussy on tap.
>>222157904Yandex becoming the default search engine in 2030 screencap this post
>>222157924Brandon was the first cause for the existance of sloppies, he was a dishonorable man
>>222157904Because you’re a smart man
>>222157924>Brandon was into sloppy secondsDon't knock it until you've tried it
What's the most black coded house
>>222157961Martell
>>222157905Do you need more? You got the Boltons for metal as fuck vampires and Harrenhal for goth vampires, I'd say we have everything we need
>>222157905I’ve always wanted to fuck Mavis, is there something wrong with me?
>>222157975There isn't.
>>222157975You're whiteI'm afraid it's terminal
>>222157961Codd
>>222157961House…Codd
What's the portrayal of Brandon and Lyanna like in the play as characters anyway?
>>222158011Whores and retards
>D-Dude I just lost because my gf discord called me right before I killed you dude, I totally had you!Do Rhaegarfags really?
>>222157992>You’re whiteAnon, I… have some unfortunate news for you>>222157991Except my skintone
>>222158011Nobody knows, nobody here watched it, we only have sentences to draw our conclusions fromBut its not looking good for either of them
>>222157961Lannister
>>222157776GRRM wants the Dornish Wars to be the Soviet-Afghan War but either didn't think or doesn't care that that war playing out the way it did only makes any sense in a situation where 1. The invading force is at least nominally trying to prevent senseless civilian casualties2. Rifles and MANPADS have been invented3. The invading force has an equally powerful rival that is incentivized to draw them into a money and life-wasting quagmirenone of those things were ever true about the Targ invasions of Dorne
Remember when Ser Hugh was taming dragons instead of putting up with the shrieking of a retarded and extremely ungrateful poopjeeta? Yea, me neither. What happened to the guy in picrel??
>>222158036Have you considered learning taking a bath in acid and obsessing over a man in a bat costume?
>>222158011Nobody knows for sure but from what we can gather Lyanna is an autist who get's sad about Brandon and Rickard's death's but convinces herself it's for the greater good, and Brandon is basically Robert but more of a dick.
>>222157970Just want to be sure I know them all.>>222157975Why would there be?
>>222158036Begone from my thread Dornish fucking shits
Elia wasn't a schemer or a dyke, I refuse this reality.
>>222158046Lannister is amongts the whitest Up there with Targaryen and Hightower
turns out Jace was right about giving peasants dragons desu. In the books was there any attempt to vet the people at all? I don't know, potentially giving a dragon to say a safe or something would be terrible
>>222158114I suspect the characterisation of the dragonseeds in Fire and Blood is propaganda
>>222158110They already said the play is not canon
>>222158102I was grandfathered in before the Great Invasion
>>222158113lol no, they're all about money, and flexing, and bling, and respect, and doing zesty shit, literally Ghetto Rich: The House
>>222158110She was both and good Ser Gregor delivered the father's justice on that Dornish rat.
>>222158110I am sure she was a bit of a schemer as any noble lady inevitably is but>she was planning for the dornish troop to kill targ loyalists to sack KL and take the throneIs WAY too overboard comically retardedIt's unserious, what's more its a shit fucking plan because nobody in westeros is going to bend it to whatever puppet they shove on the throne
>>222158011Brandon is confirmed an fratboy douchebagLyanna is kinda crazy and stupid mostly good intentioned
>>222158114Once you give them dragons there's not a lot you can do
>>222158131It's canon but it's Jon Connington's schizo version of event's to paint Rhaegar as flattering as possible
>>222158172All the play proves is Daeron II should have never let the dornish into the court, and Daemon was right.
>>222158232>>222158232>>222158232
>>222158138Yeah but Lannisters actually got the money and they invest it into political power
>>222158114Yeah as much as I want to respect Viserys wishes for his heir having THREE bastards and then complete destroying Targ aura by letting common folk ride dragons completely ruins any sympathy I had for her.
>>222158138They are the most stereotypical medieval european house imaginable, retard>but they flex money!Go look how nobles dressed, and their armors, etc
>>222158114Maybe just don't treat them like worse then shit on your boot
>>222158138Yea good point Anon. The GoT era Lannisters have managed to get some respect but that required doing a little Kingslaying and Elia Martel raping and baby smashing (like the Nazis when they used jew babies for target practice or ripped them in half or smashed them against the sides of the jew transport wagon or just carried them around on their skewered on their bayonets just for lulz). The HotD Lannisters are like medieval jews. By GoT they get to Rothschild status but they are very insecure about only being appreciated for their jew bucks because deep down inside they are neveau riche scum and they know it. This is why Lord Tywin is all about fear and butchering his own meat and stuff. Even at that point in the history of the Seven Kingdoms he knows no one would respect his house if he wasn't a ruthless murderer. Otherwise he'd be considered just some spineless rich fag, which is how he feels deep down inside. Much like Crispin Cole's eternal chip on his shoulder (no songs about you get fukt nigga).
I'm conflicted about accepting the canon status of the play for many reasons, chiefly>Rhaegar being the most shallow one dimensional pretty boy prince who did everything right>Lyanna being a bigger Mary Sue than Arya, Jon and Bran combined>Ashara being just another Shierra and cuckiny poor shy Ned with Brandon>there not being a legitimate reason for Robert's Rebellion to start before Aerys demanded Robert and Ned's heads since Lyanna friend zoned him and willingly eloped with Rhaegar >Rhaegar somehow being a better duelist than Robert despite the latter beating Oberyn and The Mountain, while the former never liked killing>Arthur Dayne being gay>Arthur Dayne having the same death as the TV show>Danny confirmed as Mad Queen because she was conceived under the Red Comet>Minor details like Robert arriving at KL during the sacking and being the one to find Jaime sitting on the Iron Throne instead of NedBut on the other hand it has undeniably based actions like>Arthur Dayne dying unceremoniously because he's a zesty fag>Ned thot patrolling Ashara>Ashara being unable to cope with the consequences of her whorish actions and killing herself over it>Rhaegar dying because he got Bloodraven's Discord call in the middle of his monologue>Aerys actually being the Archbishop of Banterbury and his worst crime being an absolute Madlad King>Elia being a more retarded Cersei and watching everything in her life backfire, crumble, get killed and/or taken away>Robert being a more emotional and sensitive man>Viserys being vindicated as the only sane Targ after his father >Brandon dying becoming unbelievably satisfying because he was just a one dimensional Westeros jock>Every Dornish niggers dying like the scheming snakes they are are, pretty much putting them lower than Ironborn niggersI can't decide whether or not I accept this as canon, there's too much at stake
>>222157569Women are like that.
>>222158114Surely no one who tames a dragon could be evil.Book Daemon loved the dragonseeds and actively wanted their advancement. We're talking marriages, lordships, etc.
>>222155752She is, but she ruins it with all that non binary androgynous bullshit
>>222158059Only Blacks, gays and women are allowed to be virtuous in that show. Hugh is none of that.
>>222158433>Rhaegar dying because he got Bloodraven's Discord call in the middle of his monologueFunniest thing I've read all day
>>222156979The Bishop of Alexandria was basically the equal to the Bishop of Rome in standing until the late 4th century, so I can see it.