Payne editionprevious >>222162106
Best girl
>>222167227Why'd you take the obviously unnecessary vaccine you ignorant prick?
>>222167247
>>222167227etc
>>222167247First thing aemond sees when he sets foot outside of harrenhal
>>222167247This came out when she was still cool as alicent so it was double yummynow alicent sucks
>>222167227>it's realkek
soon
>>222167274>teleports from Tumbleton to Crackclaw Point in one eveningproblem blacks?
He comes....
>>222167227>>222167264I don't get it
>>222167291Bane?
>>222167291
Big Greg was acting in self defense!
>>222167247The cast members in general come across as being a pretty personable bunch but if you can be arsed making the effort to catch "behind the scenes" or group interview stuff it's difficult not to notice how well Olivia Cooke comes across even by that metric.(I couldn't give a toss about Alicent though).
>>222167312kek
>>222167290he doesn't bruh they've made him a composite with young Tully and given all his rightful screen time over to his tiresome cow of a sister (?)
>>222167312He Jewish or something?
>>222167134If the average guy you find on the street of Westeros is a murderous rapist why can't the average woman be a scheming slut? It's only fair
>>222167312Oh how many lives could have been saved if the honorable ser gregor and ser amory had arrived just minutes earlier
>>222167312Whos the blonde kid supposed to be? Also the retarded fist atop gregor's helmet always makes me laugh kek
>>222167332
>>222167409her son
>>222167413No her son was an infant
>>222167429It's just a very unfortunate haircut for Rhaenys
THE TIDE
will dunk get more nude scenes in season 2?
>>222167600>Robert got PTSD from it>Renly forget about it>Stannis CONQUERED itTHE ONE TRUE KING!
>Ned was literally too good for this world
>>222167641Stop leering, ser
>>222167312Thank Seven, honourable Ser Gregor was there to save the day
I really love lemon cakes and black cock
>>222167771Jeyne Arryn..
>>222167771sir this is a wendy’s
>>222167771>lemon cakesare they sour? they don't seem tasty. why are they so popular in Westeros?
>>222167247she got the best amount of BMI in her, and she gives british upper- middle class vibes
>>222167227GOT isn't canonHOTD isn't canonAKOTSK isn't canonThe Play isn't canon>Only the books are canonhttps://grrm.livejournal.com/352453.html?thread=18585285#t18585285
So how did Brandon come to the conclusion that Rhaegar kidnapped Lyanna? Did Benjen feed him BS?
>>222167819If they taste anything like lemon ice cream then they're definitely good
>>222167854
>Lord Crow is welcome to steal into my bed any night he dares. Once he's been gelded, keeping those vows will come much easier for him.
>>222167771I'm partial to the blue cock of Swyft
>>222167669Renly was like one year old when it happened. He didn't even remember his parents.
>>222167869Lots of words just to say absolutely nothing we don't already know
>>222167669>conquered>so mindbroken he had to convert to a foreign religion just to cope
>>222167819Lemon cake is delicious, top tier cakeAlmost all lemon desserts are good
>>222167869Well duh, how do we know which parts of it are canon though, that's the question everyone asks. Why can't fatso write on his blog and tell us
>>222167831Olivia was raised by a single mother in Oldham, most certainly not upper middle class lol
>>222167916I always assumed Stannis converted mostly due to Melussy. Like I doubt if Thoros of Myr (book version) showed up on Dragonstone preaching about fire god Stannis would give a shit
>>222167863>lemon ice creamwhat does it taste like?>>222167919what do they taste like?
Home
>>222167847WHORE
>>222167876that's an ugly depiction but it's always hot imagining the struggle snuggle with girls that talk big
>>222167847Season 1 was a simpler time
how many dothraki warriors could season 5 daenerys handle?
>>222167983she monke
>>22216799440k. with their horses.
The play is canon until TWOW is published (so probably forever)
>>222167940Anon, he outright says why he chose R'hllor. It was purely for the potential magical advantage.>"I trusted in his wisdom and your wiles, and what did they avail me, smuggler? The storm lords sent you packing. I went to them a beggar and they laughed at me. Well, there will be no more begging, and no more laughing either. The Iron Throne is mine by rights, but how am I to take it? There are four kings in the realm, and three of them have more men and more gold than I do. I have ships . . . and I have her. The red woman. Half my knights are afraid even to say her name, did you know? If she can do nothing else, a sorceress who can inspire such dread in grown men is not to be despised. A frightened man is a beaten man. And perhaps she can do more. I mean to find out.>The Seven have never brought me so much as a sparrow. It is time I tried another hawk, Davos. A red hawk."
In-universe only three religions have been shown to actually work1. R'hllor and The Great OtherNecromancy, the ability to ressurect the dead2. The Old GodsWarging and Greenseeing3. Many-Faced GodSkinwalkingNote that the Faith of the Seven is missing from this list since it has NEVER demonstrated any real-life "miracles", henceforth the Seven aren't real gods.
did the dearon switch happen in the books, i recently watched through the episodes of this season, I'm wondering why the dragon was forgotten about or leftdeamon takes fdearon from ormand, dearons dragon is in the scene, deamon presumably flies fdearon home on his own dragon or has him transported with troops on the ground, but they leave the dragon? if deamon was planning to recover dearon the whole time wouldn't he have taken some dragon keepers to bring the dragon home as well? from what i can tell, no one even questioned it, when fdearon arrives at the capitol no one asks where his dragon is, seems like an oversight to me
>>222167959Your children are BASTARDS! And you are a WHORE!
>>222168019Cope, Warrior slain Syrax
>>222168033No. Even in the show the switch didn't serve any purpose whatsoever since ormund could have taken tumbleton at anytime
>>222168048t. some septon who wasn't even there
>>222168004be realistic anon
>>222168081Daario couldn't satisfy her so the realistic answer is definitely more than one with their horses
>>222168104/got/hotd/dunk: Horsefucker edition
>>222168019>creates life and death, as well as the natural order of things>nit a miracle
If the faith of the seven is christianity. What is its Christ figure?
>>222168145>Sevenfags culturally appropriating creationPathetic, your pretend gods make nothing but drones of their followers
>>222167922as long as gurm didn't speak of them, everything there is not canon
>>222168164Hugor
>>222168007The play itself isn’t canon, it just further validates established theories and gives them more credence like Ashara x Brandon.
>>222168164Baelor the Blessed
>>222168295>the most pious king>looks like jesuswhat did ASOIAF illustrators mean by this
>>222168062>>222168033The only point of that sequence is to establish that Daemon could have won the war by killing Ormund if not for Rhaenira's mercy.
>>222168104realistically who could even stop dany from fucking a horse
>>222168365DUMMY
>>222168357the Green Grace
>>222168399doesn't exist in the show
>>222168406who cares about the show?
>>222167290No, no, no!
>>222168380so did the targs just give up on dragons and that's why they double married into dorne and drained their valyrian blood?
>>222168413the op said season 5 daenerys anon
>>222167946>what does it taste like?I'm not great with description but it basically tastes like a no so sour lemon mixed with the usual sweetness of Ice cream.
>>222167247fridge body, why does gothotddunk pretend she's a 10
are Targs supposed to have silver hair or is it more platinum blonde?
>>222167227Care for some rape, milord?
>>222168560the books make it sound like it can vary
why is every somewhat relevant character depicted as a perfect flawless beauty in fanartLyanna is a 10Catelyn used to be a 10Cersei is a 10Dany is a 10Sansa is a 10I mean what are the odds
>>222168624Because George wrote them to be 10/10s? also you forgot to wrote Arya who is also supposed to be super fuckable according to jon
>>222168624anon this is 4chan, normally people here get pissed if characters are ugly. Fanart making everyone hot is based
>>222168645if everyone is a 10 then nobody is a 10
>>222168253More broadly, the play confirms all the major common sense theories and interpretations (Brandon/Ashara, R+L being consensual and crazy, Robert being justified in his rebellion, idealistic young Jaime, villain Daenerys, wishy-washy Rhaegar, reckless Lyanna, schemer Elia, Rhaella not being all right in the head after so many years of Aerys' abuse), but exact details may differ because they had to be adapted for the specific format of the play. That said, the Danyfag meltdown is really something. It's one of the oldest and most well-supported fan theories in ASOIAF, and yet they are still going apeshit over it.
>>222168678>villain Daeneryshow does the play confirm that?
>>222168560Depends on the person. Some are outright brown haired, like Baelor Breakspear and his son Valarr. The same goes for their eyes, where some people have purple, others blue, and a few brown.
>>222168690Rhaella beseeches the god to make her next child a murderous cunt who will shit out dragons and kill everyone on the continentI am entirely not joking
so how does all of this connect to the coming kraken v mechatower in TWOW?
>>222168712>the god(s)You still believe in this stuff?
>>222168624in the books it's something like:Dany > Cersei > Catelyn > Lyanna > Sansa
>>222168722It doesn't hightower elder magic will mog that squid fuck
>one true king>follower of one true godit's like pottery
Why would anyone side with Stannis Baratheon?He betrayed his king, he’s a kinslayer, and he has no claim to the throne.Robert couldn’t even beat Rhaegar one on one without magical intervention.
>>222168728but why are they all 10/10 super models? give us a homely heroine/antagonist for a change
>>222168727Yea.
>>222168728sansa looks identical to cat thoughbeit.
>>222168019None of these are because of the godsPeople just assume these tricks are godly given when there's no proof they are.
>>222168741the fuck you think brienne is
>>222168744too young
>>222168758not a heroinea joke man-womanan ugly eyesore
>>222168019the Seven works by the way. Cat sees vision of her family after praying the Sept.
>>222168759if her age is not on the clock
>>222168624The same reason Westeros is full of 6'5" men and giant castles and knights that can solo 10+ other men. GRRM likes fantasy because everything is bigger and cooler than real life.
>>222168741Arya is horsefaced to death
>>222167878
>>222168741Brienne AshaYgritteLysaArguably, Jeyne (pretty, but nothing special according to Jaime)
>10sAren't you forgetting someone...
>>222168779so for the same reasons as us bruh
>>222168781Which is interesting, considering Ned thinks she’s copy of Lyanna
>>222168841Definitely.
THE RATCATCHERS
>>222168779Westeros is full of big men because the First Men bred with giants and so giant blood is disseminate among the population.As for the women, maybe it's just the simple result of thousands of years of eugenics to breed on the most stunning cunts into the nobility.
>>222168836>Ashais a huge favorite of mine. I don't recall her ever being described as pretty and no artist ever seems to get her right but she's obviously meant to be sexy as hell
What would you keep as canon from the play?
>>222168898Back in your box, Tris.
>>222168779But doesn't he hate Tolkein for doing the same thing?
>>222168910if you like. it's naught to me
>>222168932>doesn't he hate TolkeinNo. That's the sheerest, most bad faith horseshit you're ever likely to hear within the limits of your lifetime.
>>222168951>For example: What was Aragorn's tax policy?
>>222167227Was there even any mention of a red comet during Robert's Rebellion? Something like that would have surely been recorded.
>>222168768Cat has Targaeryan blood so she can Dragon Dream. She's directly descended from Aemond and Alys Rivers.I also purposefully didn't include visions as those don't really count as real-life miracles.
>>222168624So? Would you prefer if every female was depicted as overweight goblina as in every modern videogame?
>>222168908Lyanna being a bitch and Aerys II being funnyeverything else is trash
>>222168988Yes
>>222168988no I want once in a millennium beauties to actually be rare, like Helen of Troy tier of rare
>>222168468i'm obliterated
>>222169012Helen of Troy is an 11. Those are mere 10s. stop whinging.
Cat is not and was not a 10in fact she was pretty plain
>>222169012You don't think these kinds of beauties were as numerous among real medieval nobility?
>>222168690Aerys rapes Rhaella because he wants a magical son, and she, absolutely furious, screams that instead of a noble son it will be a vengeful daughter who will bring back dragons and ruin the kingdom. She's no mage so it's not a literal curse, but it's obviously a massive piece of foreshadowing.
>>222169031>Helen of Troy is an 11.according to sappho the lezzer. homo never says anything of the sort
>>222169060Catelyn is in all respects an unexceptional character, the reason being she's meant to illustrate what a perfectly average "noblewoman" in the Seven Kingdoms is like.
>>222168877>As for the women, maybe it's just the simple result of thousands of years of eugenics to breed on the most stunning cunts into the nobility.Don't people in Lys canonically do that?
Do you think Braavos would be a nice place to live relative to the rest of Planetos?
Eddard Stark is a better man than me. I would have dumped Jon to Howland, beaten Benjen bloody, and banished him if I were Ned
>>222169693relax jon is dead in the books
>>222167669Nigga, he turned to magic islam because of it
>george forgetting his actual canon because hes growing old and hasnt written a word about the ASOIAF in 15 years
>>222167257Lmao, I love this pic
>>222169811if the dogshit from the play is from him, then he is senile and it's truly over for twow.even if he would finished twow, it would be plague with so many inconsistencies that it couldn't be canon to the rest of asoiaf
>>222169693Benjen banished himself, to be fair. People kept wondering why on earth would the head of one of the most powerful noble houses in Westeros agree to let his only brother join the Night Watch, and now we know.
>Ashara to Ned
>>222169942>Why yes Lady, I’m saving myself for marriage.
>>222169931If he knew how to actually resolve those inconsistencies it wouldn't take him 15 years to release a goddamn book
>>222169942Its impossible to believe that show Jon was a virgin for that long considering how Kit looks
>>222169942Rose Leslie is so pretty... like a rose...
>>222167247is this AI? I dont understand why a woman with a serious acting career would do this?
>>222167734>hear tales about how evil someone is, whispers of their butchery across the realm>ends up being the last man standing between good and evil
>>222170070>why would a woman show her assscroll moar
>>222167289Daeron is clearly using Tessarion as a pan-Westeros pony express.
>>222169584that was by accident. It was a resort for the Valyians where they mass raped women and literally everyone on the island now has chad Valyrian genetics.
>>222170070I wish AI was even half this good.
>>222169060Wasn't there a passage in Game of Thrones during Cat and Ned's wedding they wished they were a baby because during the disrobing ceremony Cat's tits where huge.
>>222170170Does that mean it is theoretically possible for some Lysians to control dragons?
>>222169961Jon was a volcel. Cat's treatment towards him traumatised him so much that he feared fathering a bastard who might also end up facing abuse.
>>222170200that would be Lord Willam Dustin, dude went to Dorne with Ned and died for his whore schizo sister
>>222170221i mean if she didn't, jon might've fucked sansa
>>222170254Jon would go for Arya. the pdf
>>222169961In the show he talked about trying to fuck Ros but couldn't get it up.
>>222168624>>222168779Ironically it just reaffirms the principles of heroic blood GURM was so mad about. Same problem when GURM wants to have a secret bloodline giving Targ blood to Jon. It's the classic fantasy "a hero rising from obscurity, but wait, he was actually an unknown heir of the True Blood, that's why he's so awesome".GURM never gets around to talking tax policy, but that's so much a lesser crime to indulging in the most egregious status = power = hero logic he set out to criticize. Part of that is that anyone important is a 10. Leave the uggos to the lower classes where they belong. If there's accidentally a lower class guy like Gendry it turns out he's a son of a king and noble line. What are the odds huh. The people who spent decades praising GURM for his writing were the same people who were steaming mad Aragorn was a hero because of his noble blood and becomes the rightful king.
>>222170445but why the fuck does George do this? Doesn't he hate the "le chosen one" trope and legendary bloodlines?
>>222168019>R'hllorblood magic and magic in general>Great Othermagic>The Old Gods>Warging and Greenseeingmagic>Many-Faced Godblood magic and magic in general aka glamours>Skinwalkingblood magic maybe related to warging somehow>Faith of the Seven is missingall the above are just magic spell effects, that they correlate with their deity but its just magic - so cast a spell and correlate it with the 7 and you have miracles
>>222168019>Faith of the Seven is missing from this listthere was the manifested giant of the warrior slaying the dragon during the dragonpit storming but its sadly questioned whether is a legend so it may not have happened (its a cool scene) and there are some other stuff other anons mentioned
>>222170483>George do this? Doesn't he hate the "le chosen one"this thing is very anime and he probably watches them but never admits it?
>>222168019The seven don't need to engage in cheap tricks because the seven that are one is the TRUE god
>>222170483Perhaps he's a bit senile.
>>222168624Because hot women are hot and they appeal to me and george both? What kind of stupid question is thisAlso Brienne is an ugly mutant
>>222167876I feel sure this Val's a slightly modified likeness of some well-known actress? a singer maybe? but I'm fucked if I can figure out who despite feeling absolutely certain I should know the answer.
>>222170210Maybe. We know for a fact that one Targaryen left a bunch of bastards in there. Two Targaryens, in fact. Aerion Brightflame and Saera Targ.
>>222170483I think he's just a bad writer who consciously and explicitly criticized the tropes of fantasy, but then couldn't actually figure out how to write the social critique he imagined he was writing. Seems like nobody really reads his other stuff but he's got a lot of short stories and many of them are pretty fucking blunt social critiques with zero depth. It's not like he couldn't have written a story where all the aristocrats die because they get too much gas stuffing themselves on the rich food they steal for the poor worker. In fact that's about the level his critiques would be at. Instead we get imitation, where a handful of deaths and false starts are supposed to be the deconstruction of the genre? I don't know.
>>222170483>George is a hypocritical retarded boomer that wants to have it both waysthere you have it
>>222170720George is good at writing interpersonal conflicts and that's about it. His worldbuilding is ass. Whole continent the size of south america speaking one language with the exception of the Thenns.
>>222168019all but the 7 do not seem to be deities, if they exist at all. They seem to be at some powerful spirits (nature, elemental, lower dimensions aka fiendish, god of murder pretending to be some merciful death god bullshit) with no benevolence whatsoever that have enmity towards each other but it does not make any of them good (just because one is evil, they both may be evil).
>>222170720subject to your first accepting that he's about a "deconstruction" in the first place. which I never seriously did t b h
>>222170632Why would a boomer like him watch anime?
>>222170759maybe he is lonely and he likes watching stuff in general and/while eating vast amounts of food.
>>222170483George started writing asoiaf with only a bit of fantasy trope, as a treatBut as he started expanding the wolrdbuilding and adding stuff that sounded "cool" he trapped himself in the fantasy tropes he was trying to avoid. The point of no return is Bloodraven, which makes it so NO MATTER WHAT the retarded targ prophecies WERE necessary to save the worldNow, every single time any prophetic lore is expanded, martin is digging his own grave even deeper
>>222170483Asoiaf is a story of myth, legend, prophecy, and so on. Nobody cares about the common folk rising to the occasion. History remembers the exceptional individuals with legendary bloodlines and ancient prophecies.
>>222170775Have you seen him lately? Ozempic is a hell of a drug.
>>222170813>The point of no return is BloodravenCURSE YOU, YOU SORCEROUS BASTARD!
>try to do something on the computer >there's a slight delay>computer immediately bluescreensBloodraven did this
>>222168019>1. R'hllor and The Great Other>2. The Old Gods>3. Many-Faced God>SkinwalkingR'hllor and The Great Other; two evil elemental spirit beings opposed to each other. Old Gods; various nature spiritsMany-Faced God; murder major spirit that found a bunch of idiots to murder for him in a ritualistic dedicated to him mannerits not that they are not gods but they are not major deities connected to some cosmic power that is vast. They are some local planet bound spirits, so "deities" that are fucking around. Evil, or callous and certainly not a single one is benevolent.
>>222170818It's AIDS from Shae
>>222168779>knights that can solo 10+ other menNever happened, dayne backed by two famed kingsguard lost to ned and 6 northern literal whos
>>222170818no, better to stick to food than to ozempic nightmares
>>222170813Save the world from what? The Others? Just go to Essos
STARPIKE WILL RISE AGAIN
>>222170860>knights that can solo 10+ other menjaime kills 10 men before getting caught by robb's men, at least in the series - do not recall in the books
>>222167934Yeah her irl accent is gutter tier
>lyanna was watching the fight>she knew what would happen if she called>she still had to call rhaegar>she saw him die
Imagine if GRRM had to write a story with no references to cuckoldry
>>222170881>Essoswhen the shit hits the fan supposedly all the planet will be affected and not just westeros, yiti has wall(s) as well
>>222170904Killing 10 consecutive people in the battlefield and a 1v10 are completely different thingsIt's still impressive but its not the same
>>222170928he didn't kill them consecutively on the battlefield. He was beelining straight for Robb after the battle had already been lost and mowed down 10 of his bodyguards before being stopped. It was a 1v30 something and he took out 10.
>Jaime good fighter because he killed 15 year Torrhen Karstark
>>222170922Are there even myths in other parts of the world about The Others? Nobody else seems to give a shit, solely Westeros has to man The Wall against the supposed big bad.
>>222170928yes i did not mean he was surrounded by 10 accomplished swordsman 3 meters away from him and he pulled a magic move and took them all out
>>222168781>>222168861Ned is one of the few people alive who remembers Lyanna when she was Arya's age. It's obvious based on the Faceless Men chapters that Arya is growing into her looks.
>>222170898Incredible how the Peake uprising managed to one up Balon Greyjoy's rebellion as the stupidest rebellion in historyWhat were they thinking?
>>222167261Aemond has a witch-mommy now. Alicent will fail.
>>222170920Yeah it'd be like Winds: non existent
>>222170962Kevan said Lyanna was nothing special and Cersei mogged her
>>222170969we'll have to wait for blood and fire (lol) to find out. It's likely the Peakes got news that another Blackfyre Rebellion was coming so they started shit as a distraction but then the Blackfyres cucked out at the last minute.
>>222170986Based nuncleIn this general we are Cersei nationalists
>>222170986Cersei mogs everyone.
>>222170955the Golden Empire of Yi Ti features the Five Forts, which are massive defensive structures very similar in purpose and scale to the Wall in Westeros. Magic fused black stone.Almost 1,000 feet high, making them even taller than the 700-foot Wall in Westeros.Capacity: Each individual fort is large enough to house 10,000 men, matching or exceeding the military footprint of the Night's Watch. to keep out the "demons" of the Lion of Night during the Long Night.... from the grey waste
>>222169060you think LF is obsessed with her his entire life because she's plain? Sansa has half the men she's ever met try to rape her because she's so hot and she's a clone of Catelyn
>>222171013Jaime...
>>222170995it was just retarded as fuck, maekar was know for being aggressive as fuck and bloodraven was his hand and he was swift and brutal when it came to treason.
>>222171013Especially that flat chested and frail scheming dornish whore
Do people actually think Matt Smith is hotter than Cole’s actor? Cole’s actor was on Jimmy Fallon and I just can’t believe it.
>>222171013"That can't be the queen," a boy said, "she's saggy as my mum."
>>222171076>Cole’s actor was on Jimmy FallonWhat relevance does that have to who is more attractive
>>222171076Matt Smith is oddly charismaticBy every metric, he's not conventionally attractive, but he's absolutely *unconventionally* attractiveThink Natalie Dormer, very flawed face, yet incredibly alluring
Where have all these Tolkienfags who have clearly never read the books ITT come from all of a sudden?
>>222171076who gives a shit? stop being a faggot.
>>222171091I've love to meet that boy's mum
>>222170813bloodraven is so bad>wargs aren't even mentioned in book 1, obvious GRRM hadn't thought of the concept>in book 2 the term shows up but is treated as a meme even by Northerners(except NW rangers are aware they exist, so it's strange Jon and his siblings haven't heart about it from Benjen or Ned)>book 4 it turns out there was an obvious skinchanger who ran Westeros for decadesGRRM is a fat fraud, his "gardening" style is a joke that will be a cautionary tale for writers
>>222170969What I think is more retarded is that both the king and the head of house lannister both died fighting this one minor house
>>222167831What would an upper-class account sound like tho? Which actors have it?
>>222171135All the best writers were gardeners
>>222171142Get STONED nerd
>>222171093 Because I just saw him on Jimmy Fallon.
>>222171107Why are you so mad, Matt.
>>222171162case in point, Tolkien. The Hobbits and LoTR weren't even planned to be part of the Legendarium but my man weaved them into the Legendarium anyway
>>222171013too many hot sisters fucking their brothers
>>222171162Yes but difference is that they were competent
Who won the breeding competition?
>>222170986>>222171013>n-nobody could match the Light of the WestLannister cope about Cersei getting ignored by Rhaegar not once, but twice
>>222170860I don't remember the specific instances in ASOIAF, but I'm sure they are there. I've read Fire & Blood more recently and there are plenty of descriptions of one good man fighting multiple people and winning.
>>222170813>NO MATTER WHAT the retarded targ prophecies WERE necessary to save the world>a song of ice and fireWell yes that's the whole point of the game of thrones series.
>>222171135Warging is fine, the issue is how overused it isIt's unserious that every single stark can do it, and obviously Bloodraven is VERY unserious
>>222168964Where does he ever complain that Aragorn is hundreds of years old and could take on dozens of orcs?
>>222171184>create all the worldbuilding first>then create books that fit within it, mostly to bring attention to the autistic worldbuilding loreare you retarded? This proves Tolkien is the exact opposite of GRRM
>>222171234No it doesn't, the one ring wasn't the one ring when he wrote the hobbit, he made up that shit later on for lotr
sex with alys
>>222171135>why is magic and its consequences introduced incrementally as the series progresses
>>222167227idgi
>>222170860That was when powerlevels in the verse were still low. Jaime (the no.1 powerscaler) claimed in third(?) book that dayne could beat all of the current kingsguards while taking a piss and I trust his analysis
>>222171257*Alysanne
>>222171234Tolkien constantly changed and "retconned" his lore until the day he died, and he wrote LOTR making it up as he went alongGRRM and Tolkien have more similarities than differences, and you newfags who keep trying to push them as opposites need to gtfo
>>222170254>SansaMaybe then he'd think about mussing her hair instead of Arya's (who are we kidding)
>>222171201>the whole point is that killing thousands because the voices in your head tell you to is actually morally good because it will save the worldWhat a SHIT fucking point it is then
>>222171215it makes sense if the genetics were always there for the Starks but magic was dormant since the Doom so they forgot about it, but now magic is awakening again. The issue is GRRM then effectively retconning that and it turns out Bloodraven existed and now Lyanna was a fucking greenseer
>>222171195The breeding competition makes no sense because Dany isn’t Aerys’ third child
>>222171234wrong. The Hobbits weren't originally part of any of the his old worldbuilding. It had magic everywhere, 19th century tech and literal guns mentioned while the Legendarium in general is only dark age Europe in tech.
>>222171292I guess but that was always the central point of the book, it was never a mystery or ambiguous.
>>222171298The Three-Eyed Crow was always a thing and Lyanna being a greenseer makes sense
>>222171307"third child that lived to the age where they could claim a dragon" doesn't sound as dramatic
>>222171286Bullshit
>>222171351true shit
>>222171298>but now magic is awakening againThe starks predate the second awakening of magic but that's because they live next to the wall, like the book said mellysanders became stronger when she went to the wall.
>>222171234also retard, Tolkien had to completely rework his map because the map of the Hobbits and the map of Beleriand don't match. He has to sink half of his map to integrate the Hobbits into his wider work.
>>222171283sex with alys, alysanne, jeyne
>>222171307Dead infants dont count
>>222171307He was just ragebaiting Rhaegar
>>222171351It’s true the “Legendarium” conflicts all over the place and is the product of Christopher Tolkien combing through ever scribble or cum tissue his father ever produced
>And look here... I used a couple hinge pieces to hold these snot bricks at an angle to create the roof details.>>I don't understand what any of that means, Your Grace.
>Clash of kings, woman>Clash of kings, man
>>222171399Says who?
imagine a chaste dornish woman
>>222171421Gods he was a terrible king How about improving actual infrastructure like your grandsire instead of building lego sets
>>222171475I can't
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>>222171480Gods forbid man has a hobby
how do the blacks cope with the fact that had Jaehaerys still been around, he would have disinherited the whore Rhaenyra without a thought.
>>222171506Jaehaerys set the precedent of choosing your own heir so I doubt it
>>222171498>imagine Tyene doesn't get double penetrated on the down low
>>222171514no, he set the precedence of you having to ask for consent from the entire realm to choose your own heir. Viserys didn't do that.
>>222171523No he didn’t. He chose Baelon and Baelon would have remained his heir. The Great Council was suggested by Vaegon after Baelon died because Alysanne and Rhaenys got pissy.
>Wherever whores go...Did Tywin... mean Dorne?
>>222171540He didn't choose actually. The precedence for skipping the female of the elder son was already set before him because he skipped over his own sister Rhaena and niece Aerea to take the throne. Baelon was already the heir by default due to precedence.
>>222171498>Tyene and Arianne grew as close as sisters, learning to read, ride, and dance together. They have shared meals, jewelry, beds, and onetime a flagon of wine stolen by Arianne. The two would have lost their virginity together to Andrey as well, but he was premature in Tyene's hands during the encountershe's getting spit-roasted by the sparrows to infiltrate the Faith as we speak. Another Dornish whore
>>222171584the new sparrows are virgins and too autistic to break the rules
>>222171584imagine fucking up a threesome like that, what a fag
>>222171575Jaehaerys taking the throne over his nieces did not set a precedent. Aenys’ line was dispossessed and Jaehaerys had to win the throne as a claimant. Conventional lines of succession did not apply. And it was still controversial, Rhaena set up a rival court and was given Dragonstone.
>>222171498>we didn't get a biblical accurate tyaneExplain?
>>222171480>>222171421I mainly just think Otto was a fucking twat for letting Aegon just throw it all into storage for someone else to deal with. He could have easily arranged to have the dragon priest transport it to the Dragon Pits or Dragon Stone, and just have them spend a little bit of time every day to maintain it, considering they're probably the only people in westeros who care about Old Valyria
This happened to Littlefinger
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>>222171549Tywin meant 'i don't fucking know or care'Tyrion is such a fucking retard for obsessing over that
>Fire is the champion of House Targaryen
>>222171690>ruined Tyrion's life>for Tywin it was Tuesday and he hasn't thought about it in yearsBASED
>>222171337>Lyanna being a greenseer makes senseexplain, because all I saw hinted at the books was she warging her horse, but i've never seen her do some greenseer shit
>>222171721tywyn was pretty dumb
>>222171658>it's not a precedence because... it's just notwrong. Jaehaerys didn't win shit because he was underaged while his mom and future stepdad actually won the throne for him. They could have crowned the adult Rhaena instead, but instead they chose Jaehaerys and henceforth the precedence was set for male-only primogeniture.>Rhaena set up a rival courtof a bunch of dykes and as a guest of someone else. Eventually got her ass kicked out when she overstayed her welcome and had to come limping back to her little bro for a little piece of land to rule.
>>222171737To make Rhaegar drop everything and bring the ruin of his house, she had to be a special bitch
>>222171702If he'd held onto the basin containing the splinters he could have tossed 'em into the fire while doing a ridiculous "robert help us oh no your parents are BURNING!" voice.
why didnt benjen warn his brother and father about what happened with rhaegar
>>222171789he meant to but he got his first stiffy and couldn't resist playing with it
So in the end who is Azor Ahai
>>222168019>he forgot about the drowned godWILL SAVE YOU FROM DROWNING THIRTY PERCENT OF THE TIME
>>222171789the optic is against the Starks. From every indication it looks like Lyanna got kidnapped so the Starks have to avenge this slight or look weak. If Benjen warned them and they came out saying that everything is good and Lyanna consented to be carried off, it would look like they were scared by the royal family and lied to save face.
>>222169645yeah just dont carry a sword
>>222171808KekWhat's wrong with ironniggers
>>222171806jon snow
>>222171756I don’t mean “win” as in he literally fought for the crown, I mean “win the crown” i. e. he attained the crown. Jaehaerys was chosen because he was the last Targ male apart from Maegor and made for a better standard bearer. Rhaena was literally married to Maegor. He won the throne through conquest, essentially. It does not set a precedent. If Aemon succeeded Jaehaerys, Rhaenys would have succeeded him, as is Andal custom. Jaehaerys arbitrarily selects Baelon as his heir setting the precedent for Viserys to declare his own heir. The Great Council selecting Viserys actually affirms that the king can choose their own heir, as they explicitly choose the line chosen by Jaehaerys rather than the line through Andal custom.
>>222170816Martin has a weird take on prophesy, I don't know what he truly feels about it. Its probably all his Kennedy trauma anyway
>>222171808the only magic the Drowned God is shown to have is Patchface.
>>222171806Jamie and Cersei
>Its a Rhaenyra scene
>>222171806Rhaegar
>>222171850more like>its a hotd episode
>>222171846I love how Melissandre hates him for absolutely no reason
>>222171848this doesnt even work cuz cersei is the onee-sama
>>222171806Stannis Seaworth
>>222171863she simply refuse to sanction his buffoonery
>>222171806Dany, the princess (queen) that was promised
>>222171808>an entire religion based around erotic asphyxiation How did George come up with this
>>222171863The Rhollor foid FEARS the Drowned chud
>>222171882the absurd fog makes me lol
>>222171863I'm pretty certain it's for some reason she doesn't dare disclose for fear of looking even more batshit than Stannis can tolerate.
>bump limitI am humbly asking for more Ygritte pictures and will ask again in the next thread
>>222171882lances majestically upraised
>>222171840>it does not set a precedence... becauseyou are too focused on debating irrelevant point while the one you actually need to address is ignored. Why doesn't it set a precedence? Magic?
>>222171952shes ugly and a w*ldling
>>222171980I sent you a pretty comprehensive response, I’m not sure what you’re having trouble with. Even the book says that it’s only after the Great Council that people come to believe male lines can only inherit, the “precedent” isn’t set before that.
>>222172016your response is basically claiming something doesn't set a precedence and then building everything off that. You have to prove why it doesn't set a precedence. Why? Address it nigger.
>>222172045What?
the absolute state of the whore queen supporter
Among other things, true king Aegon wields the conqueror's sword, he wears the conqueror's crown, he bears the conqueror's name
>>222172071Don't talk about Cersei like that
I was actually talking about your mum
>lost their dragons>lost their cool swords>their dynasty only lasted 300 years compared to other houses thousand year old historieswhy are the targshits such jobbers?
>>222172106but the conqueror isn't named Blackfyre
>>222172170Nigga I am talking about Aegon IIfAegon as of now doesn't even have the sword yet
>>222172168I mean the Targs could have been very old in Valyria too.
>>222172170its ok anon both are usurpers.
>>222171721Tywin was an obsessive seether exactly like Tyrion. I bet he thought about it every time he saw Tyrion get an idea, but he knew saying he never thought about it was more hurtful.He just made the mistake of thinking Tyrion's loyalty to family would have the spat resolve without harm.
>>222172183but he does. Illyrio be keeping it.
>>222172190the one after him is called Aegon III and not Aegon II for a reason, anon. The whore queen forever went down in history as a whore and a usurper.
>>222172189But they weren't a ruling dynasty, just another low-level noble family.
>>222171831>>222171893An entire religion focused on confronting and removing the fear of the most prominent risk in a sailing culture's life.It's stupid, but there's a sort of sense there.
>>222172221They were one of the top 40 dickswingers in the freehold.
Jon Con WILL figure it out, eventually.
>>222172249he will probably die before that kek
>>222172170>the conqueror bears a mighty black sword
>>222172221no. There were only ever 40 dragonlord family in all of Valyria and the Targs were one of them. They might be the bottom tier of the 40 but they are not low nobility. The Velaryons and Celtigar are low nobility.
>>222172249https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiVs8r87i_8
>>222172278The golden company do be like that
>>222172265>“Celtigar pronounced it admirable. If I showed him the contents of my privy, he would declare that admirable as well.”
Fetch the thread stretcher!
>>222171702>tfw not a drop of Dornish blood
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>>222172321Wasn’t Aerys like 1/3 Dornish?
>>222172385No, otherwise he would smell it on himself
>>222172385He removed the Dornish parts via fasting and self-scourging.
