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Proper liege title edition
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post ashara bobs and vagin sir please
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booba
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Queen of pvrity and innocence
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*glub glub glub*
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>>222203566
Sir, she is 13
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>>222203617
out of 10
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>>222203617
>she is 13
She is also my wife and queen
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>>222203617
Ask Jorah what he thinks
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He comes....
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>>222203321
Yah okay, i was a bit too harsh. Mostly because that type of shit where someone misremembers stuff from canon and everyone supports their incorrect assessment happens way too often.
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>>222203247
Always seemed weird to me that Winterfell, the capital of the North, doesn't have an actual city, just a winter town.
Then again looking at what George considers cities in Westeros they all are port cities, I guess he cant come up with a reason for larger cities deeper inland.
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>>222203617
Legal in Meereen
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Sex with Alysanne Blackwood
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>>222203681
needs a thinner shirt
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>>222203581
she has a weird face
but i would make her targaryan kids
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soon
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>>222203661
I mean most capital in the medieval era isn't cities. Noble lords hate cities because cityfags are freemen who don't have to suck them off
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Will Bittersteel be in this weeks episode? My wife, Shiara Seastar, asks me every week.
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>Live Elia reaction from the Red Keep
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Her children are BASTARDS
And she is like Ashara
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>>222203522
I'm bored. When is Sunday? I need to consume more content and then watch podcasts about said content!
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I, in the name of true King Daemon Blackfyre, disown the AI jeet
May he have a terrible harvest and starve during the winter
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Young Griff is probably the only character left with a bit of aura and mystery. Any chance he becomes an actual player and end game character or is he purely just fodder to get BTFO??
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>>222203581
Its a shame how far this series as fallen. Back in the day, we were getting several sets of the best tits Hollywood had to offer every single episode. These days, people are jerking it to Haelena wearing a slightly tight burkha and 50 year old Alys showing cleavage.
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>>222203800
Considering how GRRM will never release another book in his life we will never know.
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>>222203790
I do this
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>>222203793
t. TheMico
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>>222203661
A Capital city probably wouldn't be a port a city.
If you're a king, you'd want a city upriver of a port city. That way you easily gather resources from up river, and also easily travel down river to exert your influence on the rich port city. Basically you want something more central to your kingdom.
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>>222203800
Young Griff will obviously take the throne, the issue is how long can he keep it until Dany burns his ass
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>>222203811
Sorry, best they can do is Mysaria eraser nips.
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>>222203793
He was right about d*rne all along.
I kneel.
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>>222203800
Don't forget book Stannis. Book Stannis has aura, mystery, and has been and continues to he a major player. The show did him dirty because D&D wanted Arya to defeat the Whites, whereas in the books its Stannis.
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>>222203872
>whereas in the books its Stannis.
brainlet cope lmao
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We are in for some kino
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>>222203581
She reminds me of Jaime Pressly and Kristanna Loken for some reason.
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are you team oscar or team daeron?
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>>222203872
No...
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>>222203908
oscar looks like a midget. daeron is a good boy.
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>>222203908
>Oscar
Punchable.
>Daeron
CUTE
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>>222203681

It was 50 million
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>>222203898
>Mysaria keeps getting more scenes than Aegon or Daeron
Condal deserves to be gelded, flayed, impaled and hanged, in this order
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>>222203800
>or is he purely just fodder to get BTFO??
Oh boy, I surely hope he won’t become just another Quentyn Martell
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>>222203836
Nothing wrong with The Mico.
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>>222203790
you have to stop it, its killing you, dont you see?
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>>222203872
>whereas in the books its Stannis
Trvke.
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>>222203939
Don’t forget this dyke cunt, arguably more responsible.
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Frey x Manderly forever
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>it's another Catelyn chapter where she is a smug cunt
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>>222203960
>forever
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>>222203836
man, that art fucking sucks
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>>222203954
Mysaria is her self insert
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>>222203977
>"BASTARDS could be here." Catelyn thought, "I've never been in this kingdom before. There could be BASTARDS anywhere." The cool wind felt good blowing through her thick, auburn hair. "I HATE BASTARDS." Catelyn thought. Family, Duty, Honor reverberated her entire being, making it pulsate even as the Arbor Gold circulated through her powerful, thick veins and washed away her (merited) fear of children born out of wedlock. "With a horse, you can go anywhere you want." she said to herself, out loud.
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>>222203979
?
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>>222203977
>it’s ANOTHER chapter where Catelyn is complaining about how everyone around her is fighting the war
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>>222203934
SHE WORSHIPS TREES AND REPTILES
SHE BLACKENS HER EYES WITH SOOT LIKE A PROSTITUTE
SHE DANCES AND PLAYS THE CYMBALS IN VILE NORTHERN RITES
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>*teaches your kids some Dornish*
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>it's ANOTHER Meereen chapter
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Speak (plainly).
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>>222204014
The Manderly's are currently cooking a couple of walders to put them in a pie bro
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>>222204014
In the book only the frey and the manderly support the boltons but they are quietly killing (and eating) freys and they will join stannis
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>>222203977
When did that ever happen.
>>222204015
When did that ever happen.
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>>222203649
No, no, no!
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>>222204059
1996
1998
2000
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>>222203977
>where she is a smug cunt
So, basically every Catelyn chapter (except for chapter 51 of ASOS)
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>>222203681
cregan won
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>Essos
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>>222204015
to be fair if Robb had listened to her he would have lived

He could have bent the knee, sucked Tywin’s cock and eaten his shit, and been welcomed back into the king’s peace
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>>222204077
She's never outright smug and she mostly complains about people fighting amongst themselves instead of taking down Lannisters.
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>>222203977
>>222204015
That never happened, you fucking chuds. In this thread, Cat is a hero. End of story.
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>>222204056
The Manderlys are going to turn on Stannis too.

They have no love for southron pretenders.
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>>222204117
Hoster, please go to bed.
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Bastard blood, shed at war.
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Opinions about this nice bunch
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>>222204144
I see around a dozen heroes of the realm.
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>>222204144
True Green patriots.
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>>222204125
the manderlys are the most honorable house in westeros and they will join stannis until his death
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>all these posts about chapters

They’re called episodes retard
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>>222204144
Elia was INNOCEEEEENT
.... and Gregor...
is a corpse
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>it's another Oakheart chapt-ACK
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>another Cersei chapter
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>>222204015
>kicks off war with her own stupid decisions
>complains to everyone else about it until she dies
kind of like Alicent in that regard
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>>222204144
PATRIOTS
In this house Lord Tywin of house Lannister, Ser Gregor of house Clegane, and Ser Amory of house Lorch are HEROES of the realm who, against all odds, SAVED the realm from the dornish MENACE.
That's right folks, the DORNISH DEEP STATE was trying to RIG THE SUCCESSION, after betraying our brave troops at the trident. Terrible, terrible business, terrible people!
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>>222204144
I can hear "The Boys Are Back In Town" when I open this image.
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If I was married to Catelyn Tully I would Tommen myself too
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>>222204144
They didn't rape enough
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>>222204003
>Somebody get these BASTARDS out of here!
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>>222204054
Say it ain't so!
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So Rhaegar would’ve beaten Robert if not for the visions?
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>>222204144

It's so funny that the Brave Companion is worst than these guys
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>>222204268
The brave companions are traitors and foreigners, Ser Gregor is a loyal servant of most noble House Lannister, and the realm. It was never a competition
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>>222203908
Is there team Faeron?
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>>222203908
Oscar looks like canon Robb Stark so I pick him
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>>222204294
yeah its called the straight team
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>2 more days
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>>222204098
>cregan
who? is this someone on the show? i only know the female characters who take up 80% of the showtime
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>>222204294
Daemon had a throbbing boner the whole time, you just know
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>prevents civil war
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>>222203908
I will never ever support any character that has even a hint of fish genes
Tullys has got to be the worst house out there
>>222204144
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>>222204353
BEHOLD ME NOW
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>>222204144
one time i was in an inn right? and in come these lads, they start eating chickend order some ale, the innkeeper gets a bit lippy right? an old cheeky cunt, anywho, Ser Gregor gets up, takes his daughter, lifts up her skirt and makes her moan and cum right in front of the ol geezer
pays for the chickens and ales and tells her to bring back his change
he was a good friend
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>>222203793
pretender
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Opinions about Brave Companions being completely removed from the show
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Reminder that when Lewyn and his tracherous dornishmen tried to switch side during the Battle of the Trident, the honorbound Valemen they were facing on their flank refused to accept their offers, and instead killed them all
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>>222204370
Daemon would have found a way to start one
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>>222203522
I didn't think anything about this shit could upset me anymore
but the play leaks fucked me up
what a fucking waste
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>>222204401
It's one of those changes that don't matter too much but does create problems
In the book it made sense they would cut Jaime's hand because they actively want to sabotage a Lannister Bolton alliance, as they betrayed Tywin and are afraid of his wrath

In the show Bolton men just kind of.... sperg out on Jaime and decide to do something that could get them hanged by Roose himself.
The general plotline is not harmed by this, but its a bit odd. I get why they did it, introducing a random band of foreigners could confuse the audience.
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The Vale is the best kingdom in Westeros. Godly men, pretty women, best climate, best citrus fruits, coolest castle and best scenery
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>>222203581
Aemond will be eating good.
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>Behold me now! I am Aegon Targaryen, second of his name. I am Viserys' true heir, the sixth King of the Andals, and the Rhoynar, and the First Men! I was anointed by the High Septon in the light of the Seven, and it is in their light that I stand before you now! Strike me now, and the Stranger himself will take retribution! The Warrior's sword will be judgment upon you! Yes, you may well try! But now you will only see me light through the ash, with a vengeance righteous and glorious!
AAGGHHHHH FUARKING KINO I'M COOMING
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>>222204409
Is there a single kingdom that can even compete with the Vale? Truly the Andals are the superior men.
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>>222203908
Oscar is better looking. Daeron's actor looks somewhat decent in that Link photo
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Sexual intercourse with mommy Jeyne Arryn
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>>222204617
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>>222204478

That's an interesting insight. Thank you
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>>222204410
Daemon would have fucked off to the disputed lands and become an african warlord along with bold Jon.
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Haelena would send picrel to the group chat just before Alicent tries to kill her unborn baby
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>>222204410
And the Velaryons. I don't know why retards pretend Corlys wouldn't do something against Viserys' heir.
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>>222204728
Helaena is Indian?
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Sunfyre and Vhaegar returning as Aegon and Aemond are about to be killed, simultaneously, to show that BOND that Greens have with Dragons that Blacks could never have.
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>growing strong
Was fatman just feeling uninspired that day
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>>222204533
Sure, sure
>best citrus fruits
wat
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>>222204401
>no Hannibal scenes with Hoat and Mountain
Sadge
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>>222204761
All fake showfag sigils btw
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>>222204761
>we light the way
>hear me roar
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>>222204761
For me it's Awake! Awake!
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>>222204761
>we light the way
has no right going as hard as it does
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>>222204588
>Most Andal (White) codes Kingdom
>Homeland of chilvary and honor
>Basically impossible to conquer, nobody even tries
>Joins Continental wars only when they want some honor, otherwise they life a comfy existence hunting down clansmen savages and serving their recurring ladies of the Vale, sexually too if needed
>Sick sigil
Aye. My only grip Is that the Vale houses are underdevelopes and most of their coat of arms are rather boring. A shield? A fort? Some arrows stuck together? A bunch of fucking bells?? Even somehow a broken wheel???
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>>222204825
Simplicity in design is always better than overcomplicated nonsense
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>>222204778
wdym
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Best GOT bitch since Margery coming through
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>>222204825
Ruined by Sistermen
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>>222204861
*including
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>>222204825
why so many literal who houses I'm not memorizing that shit
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>>222204872
aren't they Northern
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>>222204861
no
also another counter point
Rhea
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>>222204861
Her getting angry last episode ruined it for me. Only soft-spoken disdain keeps my affection.
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>>222204761
Reminder that despite multiple artworks, video games, and the HOTD show too usually potrays the Velaryons seahorse as a half fish, half horse creature, Martin stated multiple time their sigil is actually a litterall seahorse. Hes like the only individual in the Planet that prefer the boring IRL seahorse sigil to the fantasy seahorse One. I bet the sigil adaptation of HOTD was onrle of the first silly beefs he had with the show
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>>222203522
AND HARRENHAL
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>>222204890
Because we spend very little time with them and historically they tend to be mostly neutral
Even Baelish there is a sneak because they don't hold enough land to appear in this sort of map
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>>222204906
MID (both)
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>>222204923
Off the tables, for the freys as well
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Lesbian fire and periodic blood
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>>222204761
House words should be something short and snazzy you can scream as a battle cry.
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>>222204923
AH SHUBBOSHE
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>>222203522
Is this supposed to be harrenhal?
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>>222204961
is that off the table?
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>>222204825
Corbray, Redfort and Waxley all have banger arms.
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>>222204761
>IT’S MORBIN’ TIME!
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>>222204533
where is the water for that waterfall coming from, it's all peaks there
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>>222204999
dont worry about it
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>>222204761
House Codd mogs all of them
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>>222204924
The Baelish are also braavosi merchants in their origins that migrated to the Vale in the generation before Petyr. He have only disdain for the chilvary culture of the Vale and merely used his formal status as a Valeman noble as a way to enter into the Court in KL. So really the Baelishs shouldnt count
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>>222204907
pussy cant handle the passion, that slap was hot af
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>>222204144
A knight that remembered his vows.
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>>222204825
>House Shett
lol I forgot these niggas exist
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>>222204961
Pretty shit design to be very honest, I would make it star shaped at least
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>>222204999
Alyssa's tears are a purely decorative installation. Mya Stone brings up buckets of waters by donkey and pours them over the mountain face.
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Aaaa to be young and in love.
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>>222205058
>>222204961
Alright smartasses, post YOUR favorite harrenhals
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>>222203800
He will win KL peacefully and unite the realm before Dany gets there. Learning this causes Dany to go crazy and she crashes out going full Mad Queen on KL
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>>222204926
gay (you)
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>>222205070
can't wait when this scene finally happens
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>>222205095
Is this AI or real?
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>After Joffrey's death at his royal wedding, Petyr Baelish uses the dagger to cut fruit, while talking to Sansa Stark about truth and lies and hidden plots.
DEEPEST lore.
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>>222205058
Bastion forts are anachronistic
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>images that cause redditors to piss and shit their pants in rage
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>>222205088
Rhea is still okay
Same cannot be said for the tranny
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>>222204906
More Arryn pussy for me
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>>222205136
>not even Lord Walder
Redditors make better memes than this
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>>222204861
She would laugh at me ejaculating so quickly inside of her
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>>222205138
gay homosexual
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>>222205133
>anachronistic
Nu-uh, the shape means attacking any side exposes your back to defenders
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>>222204761
I mean, it kinda works considering they’re upstart house (but yeah, I’m sure Gurm just thought “what words will suit the house with the rose logo?”)
Also, “Family, Duty, Honor” is more boring imo (plus it feels like they’re tailor made for Cat’s character and her chapters)
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>>222205164
>OrmundPuke.gif
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>>222204923
I SHANSHAPOSE
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>>222205136
Black Walder always comes early (inside his cousins)
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>when the rape happens
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>>222205164
>omg is that a mildly attractive girl dancing in a way that conveys shes horny by herself to post online for validation and attention
>omg im going to cooooom in my pants RIGHT NOW
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>>222205228
this but unironically
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This is no longer my story.
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emily carey is mid ngl
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Say something nice about Queen Rhaenyra Targaryen, true heir to the Iron Throne, rightful ruler of the Seven Kingdoms, Protector of the Realm
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>>222205278
No
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>>222205278
KINOSE
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>>222205278
Sunfyre told me she tastes real good
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>>222205278
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>>222205278
cute and regal
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>>222205322
Is he talking about the woman he was asked to clean up when after he was raped yesterday?
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>>222205278
She looks like a king in the body of a woman
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>>222205278
she is white
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>>222205278
Her children... ARE BASTARDS!
And she... Is a whore.
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>>222205278
>Say something nice about Queen Rhaenyra Targaryen

I like her nose.
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>>222205278
fertile
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Mysaria has got to be the worst Master of Whispers ever
>Suggesting that Rhaenyra hire a Master of Coin to blame for the realm's financial woes
>Looking on in disappointment when Rhaenyra tries to blame the Master of Coin for the realm's financial woes, since it means she's fobbing off petitioners and looks callous
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>>222204761
House Bolton
>flayed man sigil
>"Our blades are sharp"
>famous for flaying Starks and wearing their skin as cloaks
Why didn't the others Northerners genocide their psycho vampire edgelord asses before?
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>>222205278
>Say something nice about Queen Rhaenyra Targaryen

No, fuck her, she crossed the line.
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>>222205278
She looks like Hunter Schafer with vagina
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>>222205417
>Helaene will die this season

I'm not ready Helaena bros...
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>>222205417
This.
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>>222205441
you had like 6 years to prepare
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>>222205384
real
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>>222205459
Still not enough...
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Why the fuck did Rhaenyra have money problems AFTER taking Kings Landing? WHAT DOES SHE EVEN NEED MONEY FOR WHEN THE LORDS PROVIDE SOLDIERS IN RETURN FOR LAND AND SMALL FOLK GROW FOOD FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR LORDS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH FUCK YOU GEORGE RR MARTIN YOU FAT FUCKING HACK
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>>222205488
because the greens stole the royal treasury
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Mayhaps
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>>222205488
The greens took the treasury with them when they left kingslanding, leaving them illiquid
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>>222205413
because they are all psychos, anon. This image of the north as being ultra honorable is thanks to Ned. They are all a bunch of Bolton-tier savages. Reminder that the right of the First Night was mainly practiced in the North.
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>>222205497
Why does that even matter?
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>>222205110
We’re cooked, chat.
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>>222205515
Well there is no money and that's why it matters.
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>>222205488
the fatfuck doesn't actually understand medieval economy despite knocking Tolkien for it, please understand
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>>222205515
Are you just pretending to be retarded or...
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>>222205529
But what does she need the money for all of a sudden when she didn't before taking Kings Landing?
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>>222205488
You still have to pay people anon.
All those servants, the guards, the city watch, the cooks, etc they all require payment for their services.
The Greens were smart to take and hide the treasury, so once Rhaenyra took the city she realized the city has no cash to fix the problems like the people starving, which was due to her.
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>>222205550
wrong. In a medieval economy people work in exchange for food and lodging, not liquid money.
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>>222205278
I'm just glad she's now being portrayed as a useless, sniveling little bitch.
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>>222205545
Before taking kings landing
>no fiscal responsibilities with the citizens of kings landing
After taking kings landing
>fiscal responsibilities with the citizens of kings landing
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>>222205413
The North is house to all kinds of weirdos, just look at crannogmen and their wandering castle
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>>222205542
Please explain to me why Rhaenyra is suddenly bankrupt. She doesn't have a standing army that is salaried nor does she run a welfare state.
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>>222205512
There was even a line early on in the book about how Ned is fucking terrified of old Stark king ghosts because they were cold harsh motherfuckers.
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>>222205550
>The Greens were smart to take and hide the treasury
Wasn't that just Larys playing 5D chess and stealing it right under their noses?
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>>222205574
She simply left her treasury at dragonstone, and forgot about it
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>>222205562
For food and lodging they'll work a field, not in the red keep
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>>222205550
Just don't pay them, that's literally what happened in history. Even today you have America not paying state servants and soldiers for months.
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>>222205583
Theon is even named after a Stark king who went full Vlad Tepes on the Andals.
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why didn't Daemon just fuck everyone up and sat on the throne himself? is that shit too boring for him?
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>>222205585
No, Tyland split the gold in 4 parts, one for casterly rock, one for the iron back, one for oldtown and he used the last part to finance the early war effort.
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>>222205574
Do you think the trained ravens they use for communications are free? Or mysaria's agents? Or the food for the dragons? Or the gibs so the people don't rebel? OR THE CITY GUARD WHICH IS A PLOT POINT?
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>>222205562
There were already food shortages due to Rhea's blockade a season ago, so importing food would have been a necessity, requiring gold, the only thing the show hasnt managed to fuck up, economics
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>Rhaenyra takes Kings Landing
>suddenly owing the castle staff some coppers bankrupts the black war effort
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>>222205599
don't be retarded, anon. If they work in the field then they already have their own food and lodging and merely work for the right to keep those. Yes, I know medieval economy might sound esoteric but bear with me.
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>>222205607
why didn't he just rape aegon when he had the chance
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>>222205607
You can't just kinslay your way to the crown
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>>222205608
I see, I don't remember that part. Didn't know Tyland was that clever.
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>>222205621
JUST USE THE FUCKING MONEY SHE ALREADY HAS OR TAKE CORLYS' FUCKING MONEY
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>>222205640
He literally caused the fall of the blacks with that trick not to mention the lannisters stole part of that gold. I'm sure the Hightowers did the same.
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>>222205625
Well to be fair, Corlys was personally financially backing her the most and he just lost everything so they were probably really depending on the treasury to fund the rest of the war.
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>>222205628
The ladies in waiting are mostly nobles who require more than lodging, also >>222205621
>Yes, I know medieval economy might sound esoteric but bear with me.
Don't act like a smartass when you are proving yourself to be actually retarded
The smiths that forge the swords aren't paid in "food and lodging" either, you have no idea about how a medieval economy works and you should be embarrassed to act so smugly about a topic you do not understand
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>>222205647
>CORLYS' FUCKING MONEY
see >>222205661
dat nigga is fucking broke now, he lost his castle and everything.
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>>222205661
What do they need funding for? She doesn't even have a fucking army while the Riverlanders and winter wolves are obligated by feudal contracts to fight for free.
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>>222205647
She doesn't have any, Dragonstone is small.
And Corlys home got sacked by the pirates.
Are you even watching the show?
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>>222205647
THEN YOUR COMPLAINT IS
>It makes no logistical sense she can't get more money
AND NOT
>she has no use for the money

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE YOU KNOW? IT REQUIRES READING COMPREHENSION AND AN IQ ABOVE 80 BUT THERE IS INDEED A DIFFERENCE THERE
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>>222205545
nta, but before Rhaenyra took KL she just sat isolated on Dragonstone. Which in the show doesn't evdn have any people living on it. But now that she has a court to maintain, a city to administer and hopefully a realm to manage she has high expenditures. The running costs would usually get payed out of the royal treasury, which itself gets regularly refilled from taxes.

Neither Grrm nor the show puts much thought into premodern economics, tax policies etc. But we do get the whole problem of paying the Goldcloaks for example.
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>>222205681
I don't watch that abortion, I'm talking about the dogshit book.
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>>222205694
>being this retarded
The entire issue with the treasury makes no sense.
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anon is clearly a filthy communist who thinks people will just work for free cause "muh oaths" and shit.
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>>222205672
>The smiths that forge the swords
those are freemen, not servants in a castle retard. We're talking specifically about castle staff and guards.
>The ladies in waiting are mostly nobles
exceptions
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>>222205727
>no gold
>no warriors
>no warriors = no monopoly on violence
>no monopoly = no control
ur welcum
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>>222205699
It's a feudal fucking kingdom, she's not going to pay for shit. Her vassals owe service in return for military service while the commoners provide food and taxes. The Goldcloaks can go without pay, it was common for payed soldiers during antiquity to go without pay for months and sometimes years.
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>>222205488
to pay off debt to Iron Bank maybe
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>>222205607
>is that shit too boring for him?
Probably. I mean, can you imagine Daemon sitting on the Iron Throne listening to some peasants requests for hours, or talking about taxes with the council? Nah, being the power behind the throne is more interesting to him I think
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Under King Petyr Baelish all this nonsense will be sorted.
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>>222205777
It's a feudal society retard, they're obligated by law to fight and provide their own equipment and cover expenses.
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>>222205766
not for free. The payment is in kind not in gold.
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>>222205774
>those are freemen, not servants in a castle retard.
Therefore you don't have to pay them?
How does them not being servants change ANYTHING about the argument?
>exceptions
The literal staff of the castle? An exception?
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basic economy filtered this mongoloid hard
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>>222205805
What if they don't?
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>>222205805
>they're
who would that be? the goldcloaks? they're just a glorified police force, stop paying the police tomorrow and see how it goes.
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>>222205795
>Petyr Baelish
>the man that gives 90,000 gold dragons in prize money at the hand's tourney
It's fucking unbelievable how much money that is. George is so fucking dumb.
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>>222205073
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This is the cast of the Mad King play

Say something nice about them
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>>222205820
we are talking specifically about castle staff you retarded nigger. The guards and the cleaners. Of course the fucking blacksmiths get paid money. They are men with trade who could work outside the castle and thus you gotta pay to retain their service inside the castle. You are mistaking me for some other anon who's arguing money has no use at all in the medieval era. Retard.
>The literal staff of the castle? An exception?
you think lady in waiting makes up the entire staff you retard?
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>>222205856
>>222205868
Just burn them alive with the dragons, shit. At this point I don't even care about George's convoluted and idiotic writing.
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>>222205886
to be fair that was part of his plan
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>>222205781
Sounds like a shit way to do business, not paying the people you want to risk their lives to protect you, there's no reason for them to obey and will betray you when the enemy makes a better offer.
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>>222205886
Ned asked him to, Robert don't take less he qas a frivolous fool
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Say something nice about the qt3.14 jewess responsible for bringing us the kino that is dunk
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>>222205856
then they broke the oath to fight for the king when demanded to. When the king got everything sorted out their lands could be confiscated because they didn't fulfill the contract
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GRRM is a midwit but most of the people who criticize his worldbuilding are vastly stupider
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>>222205912
>we are talking specifically about castle staff
No we are not, we are listing all the possible expenses that could fuck her over in her situation of having no money. You trying to move the goalpost to only the castle staff is a way to avoid admitting you embarrassed yourself with your stupidity
>you think lady in waiting makes up the entire staff you retard?
The majority of the red keeps staff is minor nobles, the ladies in waiting specifically is what literate people call "an example" to disprove your notion about food and lodging
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>>222205918
Crashing the economy?
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>>222205922
Yet that's what happened in real life. States didn't fucking go bankrupt over a single city.
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GRRM is a midwit and those who defend his worldbuilding are jews.
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>>222205962
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w118h5-Xa9U
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>>222205073
Inside view during the Great Council.
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>>222205953
The ladies aren't staff you nigger, they don't receive a wage. They're sent by lesser nobles to serve their superiors.
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>>222205953
there's no we in this retard. Go fuck some other windmill. I am hyper-focusing on the castle staff.
>The majority of the red keeps staff is minor nobles
citation needed.
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>>222205962
Yes.
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>>222205947
Aly is hotter
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>>222205886
Yeah, the ridiculous amount of prize money makes no sense.
Especially when you realize that Westeros doesn't even have its own bank, so how do people who aren't high lords who win handle that much money?
Like the archer dude Anguy who won 10k gold dragons, how the fuck did he carry it around with him?
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>>222205982
So did Harren build everything with robots or what?
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>>222205982
Fucking mines of moria
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>>222206008
He says he spent it all on whores. How is that even possible? Imagine saying you spent a hundred million dollars on street workers.
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>>222206012
involuntary riverfolk labor
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>>222205982
Why the fuck would you build this
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>>222206012
even better than robots, good ol' Riverlander slaves.
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>>222206008
Oldtown has a bank
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>>222206008
>Especially when you realize that Westeros doesn't even have its own bank
the jewtowers run their own bank
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Jeyne or Alysanne: who is the hottest HotDfu?
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>>222206063
Why are the (((Hightowers))) like this?
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>>222206080
rich in intellect, rich in cunning, rich in gold
/besthouse/ confirmed
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>>222206063
>>222206068
>dont invest in the dirty foreign Rogare Bank like the other lords did
>it goes under and everyone looses their money
>establish your own better bank, gets even richer from it
Hightowers can never stop winning, there's no way they aren't George's real favorite house.
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>>222205890
And how.
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>>222206129
Euron is about to make them extinct
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>>222205909
Somebody get these NIGGERS out of here
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>>222206044
Hubris.
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>>222206044
Aura
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Why did people believe that Ned Stark had betrayed Robert? Did they not know what good buddies they were?
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>>222206206
What knowledge could the average KL peasant have about that? As for the nobles, no one gave a shit it was all about optics
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>>222206206
>Hand of the King dies under mysterious circumstances
>Robert makes his weird savage pagan friend Hand
>suddenly the entire kingdom is engulfed in war
>Robert dies and both of his brothers raise their banners in rebellion
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>>222206044
To dab on the rivercucks by lording over them from cartoonishly large house you force them to build.
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I'm going to threaten to blind one of our few dragonriders, hope he doesn't betray us.
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>>222206248
>weird savage pagan friend
>head of the oldest house in Westeros
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>>222206224
The war songs?

>>222206248
>Huzzah! They made a Stark guy in the songs Hand!
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>starts a war because of some pseudoscience genetics misinformation
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>>222203872
Stannis will sacrifice Shireen and lose to twenty good men. It is known.
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>>222206292
>>222206280
The war songs are forgotten the second the new "current thing" comes out
The plebs do not give a shit about "the oldest house of x shithole", that dick measuring is for nobles

The plebs want to see some nigger get beheaded and then to the tavern to drink ale with the lads
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>>222206262
>im also not going to assign this low born retard dragon rider a squire (which he will think is a sign of respect) who has orders to murder him the second he goes rogue because he's in control of a nuclear level weapon and we simply cannot afford that risk, ahaha, im a silly kang in the body of a woman
bravo hess and grrm
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wouldn't be surprised if the play also revealed that riverfolk actually volunteered for Harren to build Harenhall
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>>222206319
The seed is strong.
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>>222206262
Daemon is such a fag. I liked him until Ulf and his complete fumbling of the city watch. "You're a traitor if you don't work and die for me for free" nah get fucked, cuck. And then he has a /free/ dragonrider in his ranks and he decides to prove his fragile ego by bullying him like a teenager.

Daemon is a pussy and retard.
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>>222206078
Alysanne isn't in hotd
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>>222206336
What even is the lesson there. Be a good guy and everyone will forget your deeds and will wanted you beheaded for entertainment?
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>>222206383
The lesson is picrel
It's always been picrel
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When Ashara was getting drilled into the floor by Brandon do you think he cut a lock of hair to give to Ned to sniff
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>>222206280
Average southron knows next to fuck all about the North and the northmen
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>>222206374
Show Daemon is an imbecile. He had two dragons and was on the brink of total defeat at the hands of a cave full of pirates. Book Daemon wiped the floor with them in the Stepstones
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>The common people pray for rain, healthy children, and a summer that never ends. It is no matter to them if the high lords play their game of thrones, so long as they are left in peace. They never are.
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>>222206280
Hightowers and Daynes predated the First Men.
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>She sent men at arms covered in mud pretending to be a Baratheon envoy to murder the pretender, brilliant.
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>>222206383
>Be a good guy and everyone will forget your deeds and will wanted you beheaded for entertainment?
Central theme of the bible btw
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>>222206454
only new test. Old test yahweh will kill you for looking at him wrong.
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>>222206439
Well surely Maekar is the key if they’re putting Aemon in the collage.
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Why didn’t Elia just poison Arys in the play is she stupid
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>>222206383
except there are still people willing to die for the good guy's family while everyone else would spit on the graves of the bad guys
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>>222206496
the famous paranoid aerys, who doesn't trim his nail because he doesn't let a knife near him. Sure let's poison him, somehow.
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>>222206496
Varys had an endless supply of litmus paper.
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>>222206513
giga chad
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>>222206513
Basically, the central moral message is, don't give a fuck what poor people say, only rich and successful people are worth listening to and aspiring to be respected by?
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>>222206513
whose sigil is that, Peasburys?
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>>222206383
that his children will avenge him and make sure the history books recorded him as the greatest man who ever lived
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>>222206551
Peasbury, beesbury, george names houses after the last thing he saw in the garden clearly
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>>222206513
This is totally overstated. The entire north are as self-interested as the rest of them. They just hate Roose Bolton for killing their men by sabotaging the campaign.
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>>222206383
The lesson is that fate is predestined because of time travel and nothing you do matters, good or bad.
>>222206513
This scene has already lost all meaning with the "Visery's Girl" shit from Fire and Blood.
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>>222206565
>just have magic prophecy children bro
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>>222206517
it's hilarious how retarded the Targs are
>favorite family hobby is kinslaying, always trying to kill each other despite enemies all around them
>trusted spymaster is a blackfyre
>surround themselves with maesters who want them gone, trust them unconditionally
how can anybody defend them? Their fate is deserved
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>>222206588
Colder climates have a stronger trust-society, because survival depends on each other, George is slipping people redpills
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>She sent Queen Dowager to murder her own son, brilliant.
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>>222206630
>trusted spymaster is a blackfyre
You would never figure it out without the knowledge of several different POV chapters from several different places in the world giving you info no given character has access to
And even THEN most people realize because they read the theory somewhere
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>>222206603
more like the lessons he taught them carry on even if he's dead and why they succeed, not because of prophecy bullshit
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>>222206670
the lessons he taught them would be useless if 2/4 of them aren't magic babies. Maybe 3/4, since we don't know what kind of shit Rickon is up to.
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Rhaenyra will accidently have Heleana's newborn son killed and accidently give the order for Tumbleton to be burned. When she is examining little Johnny (IDR his name)'s body, she will accidently knock his head into a chamber pot which will be accidently sent to Heleana (Rhaenyra won't know about it, it'll be an accident) causing her suicide. The peasants will learn about both atrocities, which are totally not her fault, and unfairly blame her and riot, meanwhile the Hightowers crack team will storm the Dragonpit (peasants would NEVER have the autonomy to fight back against the Targaryeans, after all).
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>>222206709
>what kind of shit Rickon is up to
probably pretending to be a house servant at a minor house and then dying to ramsey
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>>222206667
>foreign guy with mysterious origins shows up
>constantly feeds Aerys paranoia, drives a wedge in the Targ family
>has no explainable surface motives, but everybody just chooses to trust he dedicates his life to Westeros
>no oversight into his spy network, don't require him to gradually turn it over to the Iron Throne as a condition for his job
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>>222206709
Rickon has tamed the cannibal in skagos, trust the plan
He will give him the shittiest name in dragon history
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>>222206740
He’s going to lead a Skagosi army while riding on a unicorn.
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>>222206760
why do they trust Varys to be their CIA guy again? Everyone threw a fit over the Rogares.
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Get dubs!
Get dubs, ser Duncan!
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>>222206760
kek
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>>222206760
>constantly feeds Aerys paranoia
Everyone did
>drives a wedge in the Targ family
The wedge was already there

>>222206783
Man of no noble house means whatever ulterior motives he has are not a threat to the system, according to the nobles who do think this way
It's also why the trust Baelish, he's too much of a nobody for anyone to be scared of him
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>>222206814
Baelish is actually Westerosi. The last time they brought a bunch of Essosi over everyone threw a fit.
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>>222206760
>>constantly feeds Aerys paranoia
the play canonized that Aerys is right about everything btw
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>>222206829
>Baelish is actually Westerosi
Actually not really, his family is from Braavos and only came there like 20 years before robert's rebellion
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>>222206588
northern houses are self interested yes which is why they are being covert with their support for any remaining living stark children
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>>222206862
that's false. His granddad is Essosi but his dad and him grew up in Westeros. He's literally fostered in Riverrun.
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>>222206829
>Baelish is actually Westerosi
his grandfather was literally a Braavosi sellsword who got awarded the shittiest castle in all of Westeros for some sort of vague heroic deed performed for the Lord Arryn
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>>222203855
You’re describing Harrenhal
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>>222206884
see >>222206883
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>>222206862
He was born and raised in Westeros. He is as Westerosi as someone who can trace their lineage back to the Coming of the Andals.
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>>222206588
Also Ramsay
They know Ramsay will be lord when Roose dies and know what kind of lunatic he is. Roose's cruelty is calm, you can avoid it by not crossing him, but Ramsay is just unhinged and nobody wants him to rule the north
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>>222206884
It’s more of a keep. There are tons of landed knights with a keep.
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>>222206772
>skagos means stone
>island of cannibals
>known for obsidian aka volcanoes present
>Davos headed there
>after having a huge amount of foreshadowing about him not wanting to be around when the dragons are woken from stone
>rickon's wolf is black with green eyes, just like cannibal
and bring a giant dragon for Jon

>mfw there are finally more targshit dragons to eat after hibernating for 200 years
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>>222206904
>He is as Westerosi as someone who can trace their lineage back to the Coming of the Andals.
I see what you did here
>>222206883
>He's literally fostered in Riverrun
Yes, he was raised in westeros but everyone knows his family is foreign, even their sigil is Braavosi which is why Baelish changes it to a more Vale like sigil
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>>222206878
Only insofar as it toppled the Bolton regime because they’re literally evil. If the Iron Throne put an Umber or a Karstark in charge I don’t think they’d give a shit.
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>>222206768
Burnylizard?
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>>222206941
no one ever treats him like he's foreign. A foreigner would never have been granted Harrenhal.
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>>222206932
Wouldn’t he be dead by now
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>>222206982
Janos Slynt was given Harrenhal lol
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>>222207015
and look what Tywin had Tyrion do to him
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>>222206588
>1 rebellion against the Starks in the last 4000 years(and it involved simply trying to replace the Starks with a Stark cadet branch)
>only rebel region that didn't have a single disloyal vassal during Robert's rebellion
>despite the fact it was a seemingly unwinnable war and the Starks were down to 2 living members, self-interested choice would be sticking back and trying to replace them
cope and seethe
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>>222206982
See the thing is, everybody trusts him precisely because they see him as an outsider of the system who poses no threat. After all how could some rando braavosi from some shithole on the fingers ever be a threat to houses that trace back thousands of years?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=489a-bzKhgc
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>>222206995
GRRM has never confirmed if dragon's die of old age, Balerion was the oldest recorded but GRRM adds in his injuries from Valyria and potential maester poisoning in the Dragonpit to make you question if it was really old age. And he throws in the smallfolk stories about Cannibal being at Dragonstone before the Targs arrived, which would have had him being around 300 already at the time of the Dance
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WHAT IS DEAD MAY NEVER DIE!
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>>222207039
>>1 rebellion against the Starks in the last 4000 years
This is literally the same for every region
>>only rebel region that didn't have a single disloyal vassal during Robert's rebellion
Because they burned their fucking liege lord alive and strangled his heir to death
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>>222206654
>
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>>222207102
HELLO I'M JOHANNA AND I LIVE IN CASTERLY ROCK, AND I SAY: KILL THEM ALL!
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>>222206654
I hoping for a threesome scene, at least
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>>222207194
>>222207194
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>>222205948
the whole point of the show is conflict about who the current ruler is/should be, most lords are just going to withhold taxes/soldiers until a clear victor emerges
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>>222205562
you mean the food that is currently in dire need in all of King's Landing?
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>>222206374
>bullying him like a teenager.
That's just Daemon being an asshole big brother, since the show says Ulf is the son of Baelon as well, presumably younger than Daemon and Viserys.
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>>222207039
Skagos revolted against the Starks once, but that conflict is a bit shrouded in mystery as well.



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