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>>222413590Chud phenotype
He comes....
Aegon disliked Visenya because she didn't want to cuck him with wandering minstrels.
>>222413590On the maesters and the jews.>Symbolism of the star: Just as in Judaism, it is the most widespread symbol of the seventh of the maesters. With its seven-pointed shape, it is found on sept, it appears on funerary monuments and flags, as well as on countless works of art and pieces of jewelry.>God with part: In the Kabbalah, the one true god is found in different aspect like the shekhinah in a similar way the seven gods of the maesters are aspect of a one true god.>Priest caste: The Faith of the Seven possesses a powerful clergy whose members govern the most important aspects of the faithful's lives, following a set of strict, codified rules issued from a centralised center in Oldtown, much like Jewish rabbis operating from Jerusalem.>Spy network: The Masters have established themselves in every court and castle across the kingdom, relaying crucial intelligence to their headquarters at the Citadel in Oldtown and conducting various undercover operations, just as the Mossad does for Israel.>Bodily mutilation: Zealous adepts of the Faith of the Seven are known to practice bodily mutilation, such as carving a seven-pointed star onto their foreheads as the jews practice removing their foreskin.>Promised land: Westeros had been promised to them 6,000 years ago, while they were living in Andalos, in Essos. They later arrived in Westeros and drove out the original inhabitants by force while screaming the names of their gods.(Part 1)
>>222413696Not as much as should have beenAnyway, I think that this is an oversight on Martin's part because it would lead to bordergore a la HRE and he wanted the borders to be nice and tidy
>>222413667He didn't deserve Visenya. Unlike Maegor.
>>222413724(Part 2)>Treatment of indigenous populations: As the faith of the maesters spread across Westeros, the indigenous first men were vilified, demonized and exterminated, except in one part of the territory being the North; likewise, indigenous Palestinians have been vilified, demonized and exterminated, except in one part of the territory being Gaza.>History of the Prophets: In the oldest of the holy books, The Seven-Pointed Star, it is said that the Seven crowned the prophet Hugor of the Hill and promised him and his descendants great kingdoms in a foreign land; and of other men of great faith who guided and helped the Andals, which is the same as the Torah, with Moses and other great prophets guiding and helping the Jewish people.>Superiority complex: The maesters think of other cultures as evil and inferior, often labeling them primitive or demonic, in a similar way the Talmud describes the other nations of the Earth.>Victim complex: The maesters believe that the Valyrians had denied the Andals the promise of the Seven on Essos and that they are victims of oppression by the First Men, who resisted them, as well as by the peoples of Essos.>Double standard: The Faith of the maesters rejects magic, regarding it as a dark art, yet the high ranking maesters study their own magic and forge a magical Valyrian steel link for their chains with that art; likewise, the God of Judaism rejects magic, yet the Kabbalah teaches magical elements alongside doctrine.
Of all the leaks the only one I can actually belive in is the one with Vermithor disobeying Hugh becuse Ulf is riding Silverwing
I want to have sexual intercourse with Visenya.
Sex with Daeron.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW4dBO1aKWc>"I'll look into it">doesn't look into it>"I will remember">doesn't rememberWhat did Otto mean by this?
>>222413947He was blindsided by the Culling of the Ratcatchers.
THE RATCATCHERS
>>222413771>>222413781Since we're all sharing our unrequited lusts...
>otto brings meowmeows into the Red Keep>nu-uh it was a black BLACK Corlys' bastardI'm tired, MaegorI think this trend of blacks taking credit over not negative green deeds is just tiring
>>222413142The point is not that they get through plate, it's that they get through plate and not wood.
>>222414065Ser Pounce is Team Black, traitor
>add roddy and black aly for the third season>they have literally not even been named yet and we are at the season finaleShowing rather than telling is usually better but this is retarded
>>222414165This is not a well-written show in any sense. Not only are characters inserted but never introduced, but events occur with no repercussions later.
>>222414165NO MANG YOU DON'T GETSERIES NEEEDS LAME LESBO SEX BETWEEN RAERAE AND PROSTITUTEIT NEEDS ALICENT TRYING TO KILL HER CHILDRENIT NEEDS MORE OF VELARYONS WHICH AREN'T CORLYS TO JUST WALK AROUND THE SAME ABANDONED HUT FOR 3 EPISODES
>>222413487Of the major noble houses the Lannisters with their 30+ members is the most realistic. Then again historically major noble houses in Europe have died out with some frequency when it came to the male line. IIRC Charlemagne's dynasty was completely wiped out after 200ish years. The whole Starks ruling for 6000 years in the North is either some absolute bullshit or it's the main line dying out with a cadet branch taking over but adopting the Stark name giving it the allusion of a continuous rule
>>222413647Fucking based.
Do you think she would hire a twink to clean her vagina? A few times a day maybe? Haha
>>222414235I came up with an idea that could explain the relatively small size of noble families. Maybe a lot of the houses have adopted a sort of unwritten rule where after so many generations off the main branch, you officially adopt a separate family name, sort of like the Karstarks.
>>222414235>IIRC Charlemagne's dynasty was completely wiped out after 200ish years.And now literally every European is descended from him
>your whore knows you can't perform so she takes care of your wife
>>222413727gurm is a hack
>>222414644They will go to Essos while Daemoid and Incaelmond die at the God's Eye.
>>222414065every good things is given to the black
>>222414209>This is not a well-written show in any senseit is known
finale spoiler
>>222414405yes obviously
>>222414644kek, his head in the back
>>222415485cringe
Reminder that Mysaria killed a kid and the show presents her as an uncomplicated hero
Why didn’t Stannis wait until Renly had taken King’s Landing to shadow baby him?
I have the h-heart of a k-king…
M-my leal lords will f-find me…
>>222413724>>222413740lol incestuous schizos that lost their homeland really do hate western men like the maesters
>>222417380>tinfoil wrapped?
>>222413724>>222413740>conflating maesters with the faith of the sevenThe citadel was built by the First men long before the Andals brought the faith to westeros lorelet.
>>222413647No, no, no!
>>222413590I'd give her a taste of my white worm if you catch my drift
>>222413590>/got/hotd/dunk/...
taooba soon....
>>222415485Thanks to seasons 7-8 everytime the show eludes to the master threat to the north it reminds the audience how redundant the entire plot is.
>Oh lawdys, them whites be walking
Why is mysaria team black again?
>>222417415No? Elaborate
>>222417318The gods have him the foresight and that's why he waited around for Robb to get a decent leverage over Tywin before acting.
>>222417377>>222417380MOOT
>>222417395that's the thing, (((targ)))fags can't even figure out what their deceptive AI-driven argument is, so they lash out at every Westerosi institution there is since they hate white people.
>*teaches your kids some Dornish*
Why didn’t Stannis do his duty and have sons? It’s not because of fertility problems he just doesn’t have sex with his wife
>>222417386>no one actually believes their own religion and the church is a non-factor.To be frank, commoners do, as well as more stupid nobles (Ned's wife). See jonkler who got most dragons killed and sparrow nigga in the main series.Also, are commoners free (like in England (legally) and in France (factually) after the black death), or are they serfs (slaves attached to the land they work)?>>222417260I think about 20 dudes should be enough to hold at least a tower. They were kinda built for that specific purpose. Castles (at least IRL) weren't packed by the thousands of men at arms like Minas Tirith o alfgo.
>>222417451No, its actually how Renly would rule, ignoring all the issues, and just throwing hedonistic parties and orgies, letting women take male positions of office, being liberal and gay 100% of the time
>>222417498this. he betrayed the realm>inb4 his wife was uglyits duty not pleasure
>>222413667Aegon disliked Visenya because she would take daily trips to the Vale with no explanation throughout his life
>>222417515>
>>222417498>>222417521He was a bigger faggot than his brother.
>>222417515>IT'S RHAENYRA TIME!
>>222417510>I think about 20 dudesShut up Ramsey. And yes perhaps you can hold a tower but so what? Bandits can still operate from other parts of the castle, so you constantly need to sally forth to clear them out facing attrition. A castle not under siege is a base of operations and you just can't square that circle with the unique nature of he fortress, its awkward political situation, and needing to husband your resources for your own lands.
>>222417514Quite the opposite, he would understand when it is stupid to rush into an attack
>>222417515Looks fuckin rad
WHEN THE DRAGONS COME YOUR FLESH WILL BURN AND TURN TO ASHYOUR WIVES WILL DANCE IN GOWNS OF FIRE SHRIEKING AS THEY BURN YOUR CHILDREN WILL WEEP TEARS OF BLOOD THE STRANGER COMES TO SCOURGE OUR SINS PRAYERS CANNOT STAY HIS WROTH NO MORE THAN YOUR TEARS CAN QUENCH THE FIRE OF THE DRAGONONLY BLOOD CAN DO THAT YOUR BLOODMY BLOOD THEIR BLOOD THERE THE DEMONS DWELL THIS IS THEIR CITYIF YOU WOULD MAKE IT YOURS FIRST YOU MUST BATHE IN THE BLOOD OF THE DRAGON
>>222417498His wife was barren
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Nigga said “looks fuckin rad”
>>2224175631 slightly hungry sword autist yokel (who is a bastard of a minor lord) is usually enough to turn all of the bandits into goulash in an area of about 20x20km
>>222413667True, she only wanted to cuck him with shotas and Aegon wasn't into that.
>>222417581No she wasn’t, he only had sex with her once or twice a year
>>222417565Oh you mean, like having superior numbers, a middling claim to the throne, and still sitting around and waiting despite knowing the longer you wait the more questionable your claim becomes.
>>222413590You even see it in Reddit now where they're getting tired of these "badass all knowing female character that is smarter than all the men and has plot armour"Why they felt the need to write in two into this series is a fucking mystery. Meanwhile all the powerful male characters are idiots or cartoonish.
>>222417598Read the latest patch notes, they nerfed it due to exploits
>>222417572We won't get this speech btw, the smallfolk will just kill the dragons because lol lmao
>>222417498she was barren, had a mustache, is mean to their only daughter and is a neurotic religious fanatic
>>222417612Yes waiting around, so that the potential ally that you could have can soon solve half uour problems and the war and then strike at the opportune moment.
>Robert finds out about the bastards on his death bed>Has Cersei and her children executed>Legitimises all his bastards>DiesWhat happens next?
>>222417612>the longer you wait the more questionable your claim becomes.The more people see Stannis be a cunty devil worshipper the stronger Renly's claim grows
>>222417645Succession war with every house looking for puppet kings.
>>222417638100,000 men btw, still needs to wait for the right opportunity, maybe renly was totally fucking useless afterall
>>222417498it does seem strange that if he's so duty-obsessed that he didn't plap selyse constantly instead of only once a year
>>222417668>Team Gendry vs Team Edric I'm more of a Bella and Mya man myself
>>222417645gendry runs across westeros and makes the 8 in one day
>>222417686100,000 men and soon 140,000 if he patiently waits, once the North/Riverlands deal is brokered, who will take care of the Westerlands and cut them off so that he can easily march to KLBut I guess patience is a vice to retarded balding men.
>>222417645>Robert finds out about the bastards on his death bed>robert didnt know peenor in vagina = children
>>222417583>tribe of incestuous schizos that consider it their right to rule western people sides with a similar tribeWoah...
>>222417668No, Edric would immediately be installed as king and married to Margaery. Renly would be Hand.
>>222417678>That’s the point, he actually did very well in training the bird but the people around him constantly put him downRobert made fun of him because he was using the falcon wrong. Holy shit, imagine him telling a story about repairing an old VW beetle to use for F1 but complained that it never went fast.
>>222417236>because they were rewarded by the godsI thought the gods punished usurpers in this verse? Blackfags, what can you say about this?
>>222417729Actually retarded, moving with speed against KL with 100,000 men would be unstoppable, and any alliance can be brokered after the fact or during the march
>>222417739Gendry is older and because he's common born he's more pliable
>>222417754Plus he had the foresight of Tyrion's wildfire and Stannis intercepting them with ships so he's even smarter to wait till the smallfolk turn on the incompetent Joffrey.
>>222417498His wife is very plain and he spent 20 years fighting Robert's wars and thus didn't have much time to spend with her. They are now both old with all things that entails and chances of having children are quite low.>why doesn't he divorce herNo proper procedure for that, nor did she break any laws and he needs her house's troops.Besides, Stannis is a chud, semi-bald and in a dangerous political position - not a single woman would marry him.
>>222417757No one would care about him because he is common born. Edric is the only one getting a look in
>Moat Cailin>super important castle for defending the North>is a ruin, but normal sized not like Harrenhal>has never been rebuilt
Renly is an ineffectual tard, that's the whole point of his character. His weathervane friends ally with his enemies and that leads to the actual good guys i.e Starks losing.
Robb and Renly together would crush Tywin and Stannis (and Balon too)
>>222417777>His wife is very plain and he spent 20 years fighting Robert's wars and thus didn't have much time to spend with her.They only married after the war ended, he definitely had enough time to have sex with her.
>>222417778And give power to the Florents/Norcross? Yeah, civil war time
Stannis has erectile dysfunction, thats why he can't have kids anymore.
>>222417822He spunked in Melly well enough
>>222417793Renly literally would’ve won everything if Stannis didn’t assassinate him. He would’ve taken King’s Landing and then made Robb bend the knee by sending back Sansa + promising him Dorne-style autonomy
>>222417791I always assumed it was somewhat maintained before the Conquest, but afterwards allowed to completely fall to disrepair
>>222417791Like I said the last thread I headcanon it being deliberately left abandoned as a sign of the Stark's loyalty to the Targaryens, maybe even on order from the Targs.
>>222417791>only fortified against the south, completely open to attack from the northBRAVO STARKS
What is Roose’s plan?
>>222417826The Melly sex requires blowing blanks for the black magic to work.
>>222417852>attacking from the Neck bogsGood luck
>>222417833>The wooden keep rotted away "a thousand years past".[N 1] That would make sense if there wasn't immediately a civil war in the first generation after Conquest to show the need to choke off the South. Or after the Dance when the dragons are dead and armies become more important. >The three remaining towers are more than capable of defending the passage to the south, however, provided that they are fully manned.[5] Moat Cailin has never been taken from the south, although it is vulnerable from the north and the east.[1]Maybe your super defensive structure is a bit shit if most compass directions fuck it over, probably needs a remodel, especially as it seems to be nobody's seat
>>222417872Did you forget that the Ironmen took it from the northern side?
>>222417826She knows black magicprostate stimulation
>>222417904>the perfect woman doesn't exi-
>>222416337Wish Helaena said something like to Rhaenyra while reminiscing about lil' Jaehaerys>“This was my father’s solar,” said Tully. “He ruled the riverlands from here, wisely and well. He liked to sit beside that window. The light was good there, and whenever he looked up from his work he could see the river. When his eyes were tired he would have Cat read to him. Littlefinger and I built a castle out of wooden blocks once, there beside the door. You will never know how sick it makes me to see you in this room, Kingslayer. You will never know how much I despise you.”
>>222417886The north wasn't threatened in either conflict. That said, it seemed able enough to support a garrison of 200 men, according to Ned Stark, so while in disrepair it was clearly still usable.Just likely that since the north now paid taxes to King's Landing, there wasn't money to maintain a fortification that the Targaryens wouldn't want maintained anyway.That said I agree it should have been a seat, maybe a rotational thing for Stark second sons.
>>222417831Would've could've should've
>>222417941Yeah he would’ve could’ve should’ve if he wasn’t assassinated via dark magic by his brother
>"Anon, after your studious service to my pleasure with your mouth, I've decided to let you into my bed for the night. However, I do have several requests of you that I would have you follow. Firstly, you will remain on top the entire time. Second, you may not speak, I'd prefer silence. And lastly, come the time of the clouds and the rain, I would appreciate it if you expelled your seed outside. If these terms are agreeable then you may undress, I will stay in my gown, but you will still be able to act as you would if I were undress."
>>222417900>Victarion takes Moat Cailin with around 10,000 men>they then... just sit there for months and months getting picked off by bog devils>never mount attacks on Barrowton, the Rills, White Harbor, or anythingWere Victarion and Balon both legitimate retards?
Renly will never be the right option because he and the Tyrells were handed the perfect deal on a silver platter and he refused it. If he'd just joined Stannis as his heir and had just a bit of patience he would've inherited the throne eventually anyway. Selyse is barren and Stannis will probably die of a heart attack in his 40s anyway.
>>222417966What does it matter how he died? He was an arrogant twat who tried to usurp his brother and he paid the price.
Dear god this show is so cringe, I actually hate watching it
>>222417939>The north wasn't threatened in either conflict. ThatIsn't the eventual goal independence? Maybe I'm too much of a rat but I'd always have that ticking away in my mind as a Stark. We bowed to dragons therefore if the situation changes we're out. After the Dance someone smarter than Cregan should have started looking to find money for defence (although he was balls deep in Alys so I'll give him a pass). Maybe give it to the Reeds to formally run if you don't want a rival cadet house? And sure, perhaps it's usable, but it could be more effective, it's not like their defensive technology has fundamentally changed with guns or something. Which actually gets into a irl point that even without guns medieval fortifications were always improving so the idea of a functional ruined ancient castle is romantic but a bit silly.
>>222417980Wouldn't She has all of the STDs meisters know of and moreSticking penis into a dornishwoman is safer
>>222417939I don't think moat Cailin has any fertile lands under its control, so it'd make a pretty shitty seat.
>>222418016You can't usurp a devil worshipper
>>222418020I agree, I just think the Starks of those days were either too opportunistic with what they may gain in the favour of the dragon kings, or just passive bootlickers
>>222418016Because he didn’t die conventionally, he died from deus ex machina fratricide
>>222418016stannis didn't even kill him lol
>>222418046It could've been a faceless man, a stray arrow, a poison. Dead is dead.
>>222418023bog devils seem to make it work
>>222418072she can eat my tadpoles, iykwim
>>222417984>are ironmen retarded?Do Targaryens fuck their siblings?
>>222418046>fratricideStannis was in his tent
>>222417926Inject Jaime's pov chapters into my veins.
renly's army was a deus ex machina
>>222418045Maybe, I think it just comes off as rather bad worldbuilding that's too hard to easily handwave away
>>222418114that's like 90% of the Dance toothere's no reason the Starks should back Rhaenyra, they should have gone independent
>>222418090No it wasn’t, it was the strength of the Stormlands and the Reach
>>222418127At least with the Dance I can filter it through a biased history book full of lies whose star contributor was a big dicked dwarf.> they should have gone independentDragons still about though
>>222418148No, it was. Never in the history of Westeros was such a large force gathered. >Logistical ImpossibilityFeeding and moving 100,000 men in a medieval economy without modern infrastructure defies historical plausibility.>Instantaneous AssemblyThe host coalesces with impossible speed before any real military campaigning or attrition occurs.>Disregarding PrecedentIt dwarfs every other regional army in Westeros by an unearned, massive margin.>Convenient Plot ObstacleIt exists primarily to create an insurmountable wall for rivals like Stannis and Robb Stark.>Magical Resolution RequirementBecause the army is too large to defeat conventionally, the plot requires a supernatural shadow-assassin to remove Renly and dissolve the force.It's literally a deus ex machina
>>222417984Isn't the whole point that all the troops were siphoned off to do actually important raids? At least from when Balon dies everyone of value goes back for the kingsmoot and Euron then doesn't care if they die. And that there's nothing nearby Moat Cailin worth raiding accessible by boat and that they've been hemmed in now that the garrison is small enough to overwhelm if they leave?
>>222418149Biased history or not it makes no sense not to break fealty with the Iron Throne when it does nothing to help the North and has instead inhibited it.Dragons are a non-issue, they're all killing each other. By the time Cregan even marches, they're gone.
>>222418184It wasn't actually 100k men, that's just classic over exaggeration by in universe characters. There you go.
>>222418184>uses chat gpt
>>222418199I wish. Instead, the core of the ironborn sit at Moat Cailin for months (according to Victarion) and do nothing. The only other attacks are a handful of longships on the stony shore and Asha's attack on Deepwood Motte (she also does nothing for months)
What's going to happen tonight apart from tumbleton brosWill we get the Aemond crashout over Alicent?
Seven hells rhaenyra looks goofy in that get up
>>222418212During the Dance he doesn't know they'll all kill one another, and probably before he gets there he has no idea how many survived and if they were still a threat or if more could be hatched and reared from all the eggs. Big unknown where they play it safe. Now a couple of decades later then yeah the Hour of the Wolf should have been him declaring independence.
>>222418238>What's going to happen tonight apart from tumbleton brosRape
>>222418253the hour of the wolf was at the very end of the dance when he got to the capitalbut yeah, cregan basically sat the dance out so he should have declared independence after seeing how retarded the (((targs))) were
>>222418020>>222418045I think that in the long run it's probably better for the North to be part of the 7 kingdoms than to be independent. You pay taxes sure, but the iron throne doesn't seem too involved with northern politics otherwise and peace with the south means access to their markets and extra backup in case any king beyond the wall ever becomes too dangerous. I think the idea post-Dance was that of the three kingdoms most likely to declare independence (North, Vale and Iron Islands) Cregan understood the value of staying in the kingdom (should've been made clear though), the Vale descends in civil war with the winning side needing help from the Iron Throne, and the Iron Islanders were basically in revolt until Dalton died and the Lannisters kicked their teeth in.
>>222418278>the hour of the wolf was at the very end of the dance when he got to the capitalI was trying to say that if the Hour or something similar had happened decades after the Dance then they would have likely weighed the odds and seceded. In reality Martin perhaps should have had them leave during the current Hour simply because it would have both made more sense and been more interesting for the story.
>>222418297The North is too different to want to be part of the realm. It's like Dorne and the Iron Islands.
>>222418297We're going to flay you in front of a heart tree first
Did Martin ever explain why aren't there any major scientific or engineering advancements?>no gunpowder (even for fireworks)>no aqueducts or complex irrigation systems (like in Po valley built by romans)>despite borders being static and unmoving for thousands of years nobody even started building walls (not even in Essos where dothrakis could do jack shit to anyone who isn't an unarmored slave)(like Hadrians wall or Rhine forts or on forts on Danube by romans, or persians in north east of Iran, or by indians in in northwest india or by chinese as in great wall of china or by russians with their semi-working fort system against the nomads or like with the pale in Ireland)inb4 bran the builder and his megawallinb4 essosian chinamen and their megaforts
>>222418330Dorne is much more similar to the other kingsdom. Other than slightly more liberal social laws they have the same religion and everything.
>>222418343it's fantasy like lotr, major advances have to be limited to keep the world the way it is for the story
ASOIAF is post-apocalyptic sci-fi.
>>222418342Uhm excuse me sir but what is the economic benefit of that? Checkmate independence movements.
Tyrion is a Targaryen.
>>222418353They're culturally a lot more different, from laws to values, etc.Even the religion seems more like GRRM being lazy since nothing about the Faith fits the Dornish and the never demonstrate any loyalty to the religion (that was previously based in Oldtown)
>>222418343the maesters suppress all technological advancements
>>222418383Everyone except fAegon is a secret Targaryen. He's the only non-Targaryen left in the world.
>>222418343maesterjews *refuses to elaborate*Also you have to assume all the history is wrong, we're 300 after Conquest and there's maybe a record of like 200 years before and you have to fudge that the Andals didn't come over more than another 200 years before that, maybe another 200 for the First Men, and all the myths are just confused stories bundled up some from Essos, so really you're looking at about maybe 800-1000 years of history for the continent which has them acceptably being at high middle ages pop culture tech
>>222418343Gunpowder was actually invented from crushed up dragonglass but the Maesters killed the people who discovered it and buried it because one Maester was green seered by Bran the Broken from the future and saw that gunpowder would give rise to Dondaldio Truvmp and cause the end of Westeros. Just look into it and read between the lines you'll see its real, trust
>>222418384Yeah the Dornish should've had a heretical version of the faith at least.
>>222418410He's the son of a Lys whore (the whore is a secret Targ)
>>222418415Ok, Moishe.
>>222414037Please kill yourself
>>222418373Cloaks for sale, duh!
>>222418343Eh. I’ll reply to the bot. Steam engine was invented in Ancient Rome and the higher citizens saw no real use for it, as the slave economy was too strong and already was suffering from there simply being too many slavers, slaves, freemen, and citizens. So machines performing labor would upset a pretty delicate economy. If we had dragons and magic as well the Industrial Revolution would likely never happen.
>gets away with it Targtrannies, our cope?
>>222418428i agreeaspects are already merged with rhonyish religion, so grrm should have created a splinter faith
>>222417395People think the maesters are monks but they are more like physicians
>>222418238He's going to realize that Alys truly loves him and go turbo simp like in the books.
>>222418452The classic "all religions are Catholic" trope
>>222418451jokes on them, house targaryen gets to die and exit their mortal plane while the hightowers are stuck on it!
>>222418489>these smelly shepherds broke the cycle of samsara with this one weird trick
>>222418452Could've definitely done something with combining The Mother with Mother Rhoyne. Or if he wanted to signal a difference without going into any further detail have most Westerosi call them "seven who are one" and the Dornish mention "seven who are seven" or something. Would be enough to show they're different without having to explain much more.
if the season finale is good, will it take up for the terrible last few episodes this season?
>>222418533They have character assasinated all of the cast, so not really
>>222418410Georges favorite stan houses are stark and targaryen>wolf and dragon :3
>>222418533no
>>222418527Exactly. Of the continental regions, the Dornish are demonstrably more "other" than any single other region, and with a third race dominating it socially it would have made sense for their take on the faith to be changed.Plus, again, they're ancient enemies of the Reach and the Faith was centered there.>>222417478I finally understand...
>>222418533Only Ormund the Shepard can redeem it now
>>222418533no because they turned the literally me guy (aemond) into a mommy issues crybaby
>>222418623ormund the tranny fucking sucksonly ser perkin can redeem it now
>>222418542George’s favorite character is a Lannister
>>222418637We're obviously not getting Perkin the Flea and Trystane Truefyre. We're probably not getting any of the moon of three kings now that I think about it.
>>222418642Daemon isn't a Lannister
Why are the Ironborn allowed to exist?
>>222418665yeah thats why hotd is doomed
>>222418631Damn so they turned him into literally me instead?
>>222418670what would you have them do?
>>222418668Daemon isn’t George’s favorite character, Tyrion is
>>222418665We're not even getting Nyra dying, let alone humorously fed to a dragon
>>222418665We might get the whore queens (without Gaemon).
>>222418684Forcibly extricate every person off the isles and disperse them across Westeros
>>222418708we already have rhaenyra and alicent
>>222418670Because they’re cool
will he finally die for the dragon queen in e8?
>>222418715>chocolategorillameltinginpan.png
>>222418684dragonfire.
>>222418720>will he finally die for the dragon queen in e8?They built him up as one of the main villains for this season, so yea.
>>222418720yeah he killed a bunch of hightower soldiers before 1v2 ormund and his cousin
>>222418720Yes, he dies NOT killing Ormund Hightower
>>222418720Ormund kills him before dying pissing, shitting and vomiting himself to death covered in piss, shit and vomit
>>222418750>>222418763new copes are brewing
>>222418763A wins a win, baby
When the hell is Stark showing up. Blud is late to the party.
what are the dornish doing while westeros commits national suicide in the dance?
>>222418771they still made him a fantasy nazi chud so you know his death willl be a humiliation ritual
>>222418778>what are the dornish doing while westeros commits national suicide in the dance?Unironically they should have invaded the Stepstones
>>222418778Making money
>>222418720>those armpitsIs bro really not wearing mail under his light gambeson? doesn't look like it's under the clothes eitherGuy is really asking to get killed
>>222418778Laughing their asses off and raising their cups every time news of another dragon's death reached them
GRRM with the Mad King stage play cast
>>222418787I really hope they double down in their ignorance and make him the Shepherd thinking people will see it as a continued villain arc
Why weren’t the Stepstones conquered after Dorne joined the realm?
i torrented dunk and i'm showing it to my family tonight
>>222418838why are the british like this?
>>222418838Ayo dey be sum mad kangzSeveral qts though
>>222418838catelyn looking good
>>222418838In costume.
>>222418846Too complicated in terms of politics with the Free Cities.Daemon had a couple dragons with him and still couldn't conquer all of the Stepstones, couldn't stop the Triarchy from fighting, and eventually just had to quit.A king with no dragons is going to have a more difficult time.
>>222418860She ugly
>>222418864Why does Rhaegar look like he's in drag?
>>222418841He’ll be the most detestable sick twisted evil villain this series has ever seen…the man who cruelly put an end to the wholesome spicy reddit doggo longbois….
>>222418846>Why weren’t the Stepstones conquered after Dorne joined the realm?It's worse, because Rhaenyra said she fortified the island.
>>222418884I thought he did conqueror the Stepstones and then gave it up, and it couldn’t be held because Dorne could join the war and prevent the Iron Throne holding it
>The entirety of Ormund not liking bad smells was a pretext to have him become the Shepardlmao
>>222418850Just don't eat anything whille you do that
>>222418909that make no sense lol who started this shepard shit?
>>222418838>>222418864Ashara Dayne looks like THAT?
Will they introduce him season 4?
Punished AemondPunished Aegon Punished TylandPunished Ormund
>>222418846More trouble than it's worthAnd now these islands had castles on them
>>222418838What is the thing behind brandon stark
>>222413590She's the prettiest girl on the show, and I love her accent.
>>222418907Nah, at the height of his power there were still a couple islands he was unable to take, and the Triarchy kept attacking the ones he did hold, regardless of dragons. So he gave up and left.
>>222418343-Westerosi borders weren't unmoving. Norf was fighting the Vale over the control of Three Sisters. Ironborn controlled the Riverlands at the start of the story. -Coastal cities in Essos do have walls. People in inland Essos are called Lamb Men for a reason-Gunpowder in our world was invented purely by accident when some Taoist priest was trying to make an "immortality elixir".
>>222418953No, it prevents piracy and secures the narrow sea for trade
>>222418921Just let me cope for 10 more hours
Daemon comes home to Rhaenyra with a chicken under his armhe says "hey look at this pig i am fucking"Rhaenyra says "what? that's a chicken, what's wrong with you?"Daemon says "i wasn't talking to you"
In 10 more hours all your dreams will come true this holiday season for you and yours
>>222418956He might be Qarlton Chelsted, but I'm not sure.
>>222418838BLACKED
>>222418778Drinking wine as an independent kingdom while the rest of the continent kills itself
>>222417523>Look! I edited the game's files so that it include my cuckold fantheory! I am so cool ehehehe
>>222418778probably a lot of bisexual sex
>>222417395>The citadel was built by the First men long before the Andalschange nothing on the fact that it's used by the maesters, and it make them worst because they stole it from the first men
>>222419080honestly the people obsessed with that game are always fucked up in the head
If Ormund actually is the Shepherd the show will actually dip below s8 GoT
>>222417523what game
What is the shepherd
>>222418838England is an ex-country.
>>222417645>>222417668No because the only one he official recognized is Edric (partially also Mya, but shes a woman so nono) that also had a noble mother and was raised as noble. His claims would be pretty much uncontested. Renly was also fond of the boy and would had pushed the Tyrells to support his claim with a Edric/Margaery marriage
>>222419113England hasn't been a sovereign state since the 1700s. The UK superceded it.
>>222417559
>>222417999Marg wasnt going to wait to be queen. The smarter idea would had been to support Stannis and then poison him shortly after the new regime was consolidated
>>222418838> a bunch of brown people and ugly whitesyeah its modern day uk alright
>>222418184>AI response
>>222418838LMAO if gurm canonise that shit, what a stupid senile boomer he would be to kill his own story
>>222418838playiscanon fags... our response?
People always talk about shows about the Blackfyre Rebellion or Aegon's conquest, but fuck that. Give me a show about the war of the ninepenny kings. I want despairmaxxing.
>>222419109Kino
>>222419218Aegon's Conquest will be a movie, it's confirmed.
>Our Judeo-Andalic values
>>222419218How is that despairmaxxing? It’s basically the origin story of a bunch of the characters having fun killing pirates
>>222419164>THERE'S A TEMPEST IN ME!
>>222419093Also poorfags because the superior CK3 and the tied GOT mod was release six years ago. They still stuck on game 2 mode because its free
>>222419218Imagine still wanting shows in this universe. Imagine wanting shows about throwaway background fluff lines.
>WHAT BETTER DAY TO DIE THAN WITH BLADE IN HAND>okay then fight me>Uhhh well uuhh you see....the thing is....BLACK ALYS LEND ME YOUR ARROWS
>>222419109Enigmatic man without an arm that showed up in KL, called for total joly Jihad against Rhaenyra and her dragons, caused the city's revolt against her and then disappeared forever
>>222419277
Quickfinger is the worlds shittiest thief
>>222418184>Feeding and moving 100,000 men in a medieval economy without modern infrastructure defies historical plausibility.umm, is AI a crusade denialist?
>>222419279>joly*Holy
>>222419259Did you forget septon's Meribald's speech? The fighting was supposed to be pretty fucking rough and two lords paramound died.
>>222419277KekMore like FRAUDrick Dustin
>>222419277Earn that paycheque Tommy!
>>222419279George's version of a deus ex machina that shows up out of nowhere and resolves the plot somehow
>>222419266No it’s because nobody likes CK3, I don’t know whether the DLCs over the years have improved it
>>222418921>Ormund thinks Targs are evil mutants and dragon are devils>Ormund is a highly devout member of the Seven faith>Ormund is going to be brutally maimed and burned in the battle>the scent of his own wounds will drive him into a constant state of madness>his body will not be foundNext season will literally treat this like a dramatic reveal the Ormund is the Shepard this whole time, like you won’t see his face until the reveal
>>222419279Mashallah
>>222419329I already said it make no sense anon no need to prove me right
>>222419279If I recall correctly Aegon retakes kings landing and burns the Shepard among the skulls of the dead dragons
>He's called "The Shepard" because he shepards in the kinopottery
>>222419266CK3 has a very passive AI that doesn't try to fuck you over compared to CK2
>>222419329>Next season will literally treat this like a dramatic reveal the Ormund is the Shepard this whole timeDude the somehow dragged out the plot to the point half of the actuall big events will have to appear back to back in season 4. The fall of KL will happen in episode 2 at the latest
>>222419338>We shall meet In hell before the year is over My favorite character will burn my other favorite character and it’s going to be kino
I am woman, I am fearless I am sexy, I'm divine I'm unbeatable, I'm creative Honey, you can get in line I am feminine, I am masculine I am ...I am woman, hear me roar !
>>222419329this is d&d got s8 cringe kino tier. we are so back
>>222419338yes aegon killed all the retarded peasants
>>222419277It’s weird how they won’t commit to anyone being a despicable monsterEven the guy who tried to rape Alicent is given a bit of sympathy by him begging for his wife before being beheadedYes, they try to give sympathy to a man who tried to rape his queen in broad daylight like 2 hours before
>>222419325>>222419338>Poorfags rationalizing stuck playing a worse, obsolete game
>>222419363*Helaena lands next to her*
>>222419098Crusader kings 2 with agot mod
>for women's rights! for my wife's son!
>>222419377Meant for >>222419349
>>222419402>NUNCLE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
>"ORMUND HIGHTOWER? Didn't know you were FBI."I'm not. Just came along for the ride.>"WHOA NOW, THERE'S NO NEED FOR ME TO LOSE MY GOOD LOOKS OVER THIS."
>>222419377>he plays Paradox games before they're at least a decade oldngtmi, ever
>>222419377You’re a newfag Paradox shill
s4 finale predictions?for me it's both alicent and rhaenyra surviving
>>222419427alicent survived the dance so you're already partially right
>>222419375>It’s weird how they won’t commit to anyone being a despicable monsteridk they seem all in on portraying Ormund as an over the top cartoon villain abuser, and he's easily the most entertaining character this season
>>222419417Ah yes, the ancient excuse of poorfags paradrones>"I will just play the game when nobody cares anymore"
>>222419411
>>222419402The book version is>For my smelly ugly half-nigger concubine!
>>222419445Why is me playing a single player game contingent on other people still caring about it? Are you quite mentally well?
>>222419425If you like Paradox games, go make more money instead of stacking up excuses
>>222419443for some reason i thought she also ACKs by throwing herself into spikes
>>222419427Sunfyre will try to burn Rhaenyra but it will be revealed she's immune to fire just like Daenerys (she wasn't)!!!
>>222419377CK2 is a deeper game than CK3t. combined 5000 hours in both of them, most in ck3
>1 ep left>nothing happen
>>222419338Aegon II was truely based
>>222419445You play the game when the 15 DLCs which make it playable come out
>>222419462no she survived but she went insane after she realized she doomed her family and destroyed all her green dresses and hated the color green
>>222419462In this version she does that to all her family
>>222419470>>222419485More and more excuses. The CK3 version also have full dragon models
So is this the last season ever for HotD or will another season happen?
>>222418715>disperse them across WesterosAs fertilizer, right?
>>2224195311 more
>>222419531the producers confirmed 4 seasons unless hbo kill the show but I doubt it
>>222419531yeah, they cancelled s4
>>222413590Isn't she Daemon's wife from s1?Why isn't that ever touched on again?
>>222419507>t. prefers EU5 to EU4
>>222419550just a random whore trying to mimic varys
>>222419507Not until they add republics (next spring)>>222419531There should be a moment where Aegon burns Rhaenyra alive in front of her son, Daemon killing Aemond by stabbing him in his good eye mid-air and Starks and riverlanders going with a terror and mass murder campaign through the CrownlandsThat's another 2 seasons of hatewatching if you ask me
>>222419585S4 is confirmed to be the end. But we'll get 9 to 12 Dunk & Egg seasons and a Conquerer movie is confirmed.
>>222418778>what are the dornish doing while westeros commits national suicide in the dance?Probably secretly funding the vulture king to take advantage of the Iron Throne's military weakness.
>>222419605>9 to 12 Dunk & EggHAHAHAHAHAHAHA>Conquerer movieAAAAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAH
>>222419377I have every single EU4 DLC but you won't get me to buy EU5, Johan.
>>222418846>Why weren’t the Stepstones conquered after Dorne joined the realm?Because Grrm invented the stepstone wars after the borders of westeros were already decided in the earlier books.
>>222418533>if
>>222419622S2 of Dunk & Egg already finished filming and will air 2027
>>222419402Someone took a running lunge at me in school. I just put my foot out when they got close and they couldn’t react in time. Aemond should have done that.
>>222418982
new threadgive me new threadnew thread give new thread new thread give
>>222419658>George has already said he’ll have all his manuscripts burnt on his death>but will give Ira the 12 definitely, definitely fleshed out works and outlines of all these Dunk and Egg talesCome on, anon.
>>222418449It’s like how the Aztecs knew what wheels were but never used them for practical purposes.
>>222419697WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE ME DO?!?
>>222419717That didn't stop D&D. After Season 3 of Dunk & Egg, we're in for absolute fanfic kino.
>>222419750You heard the anon, the thread's too small for discussion. GO FIND THE THREAD STRETCHER NOW!
>>222419791>>222419791>>222419791
>>222419754>fanfic kinoLike HoTD
>>222419807>>222419807>>222419807
>>222419817retard
>>222419806I mean, yeah, what would you have them do?
>>222419746wait why not?
>>222419845stop the show
>>222419865Unclear. It might have to do with general lack of the beasts of burden in Americas. Alpacas are tiny, llamas are still quite small and bisons weren't domesticated. I'm also 95% sure neither was present in the Mesoamerica at that time, but Incas did have the acess to the first two.
>>222418917Instructions unclear, I am now vomiting hard salt beef and goose eggs behind a tree
>>222419109Sheepstealer's secret identity
