Can we just credit this episode for actually getting losers off their asses and motivating them to do something with their lives instead of wallowing in mediocrity or coasting aimlessly through dead-end careers?
How is being a crew member on the flagship of Starfleet "mediocre"?I know the theme is more important in this episode than the execution, but this dilemma is Picard's dilemma. He couldnt handle being a nobody. Doesnt mean eevrybod does.
>>222513537>I'd rather die than be one of the mindless drones i command>their pathetic existance disgusts mewhat did jean luc mean by this?
>>222513537why is his uniform blue? plot hole!
I'm only on episode 5 of season 1. I've even started to remember some of their names.
>>222513537no because the federation is a functional society based on merit whereas real life has countless biases based on whether you were born to be rich and good looking that no amount of effort on your part can counteract. if blue shirt picard genuinely realized he wasted his life he could immediately rededicate the next 50 years of his working life to education, free counseling, travel to different societies of interesting people, and not be out anything but his free time. in the real world if you are socially stunted and never get a career you are left to rot and no one will ever subsidize the care you need to improve
>>222513537Mediocrity is what gets officers promoted to the Admiralty in this show.
Picard loves being in command but as he got older he turned into a bit of a hardass who hated recklessness. Q fucks with him to show that without a bit of recklessness he could never have been in command. The point is that Picard should see the bigger picture, not that being a wageslave is for brainless scum, but interpret it however you like.
>>222513827>waaaah I need care to improveCan we please just gas all zoollenials already?
Shitting all over menial jobs is exactly how to destroy a society. That's how India was created. Respect the garbage man or you, too, will smell like shit eventually.
>>222513864The point was that you should not second guess your past choices, wherever they have led you, because it would unravel the whole tapestry of your life. But midwits interpret it to mean that you should be aggressive and reckless in your youth in order to get ahead.
>>222513827What's stopping you from reaching your goals?
>>222513800It's just like being on a ship
>>222513939I wish I bought Bitcoin. Bite me.
>>222513939>the point is you should not attempt to understand the events of your life and how they've led you to where you are>just accept it, broNot sure what shit tv show you were watching with themes like that.
>>222514019You would have sold at $1500
>>222513993Muh society is le genociding me. There was a man who told me to clean my room and police didn't immediately arrest him. Now I am traumatised and have to heal by posting reddit walls on 4chan television board
>>222513537But you can make an argument that Picard wasn't really a loser. He held a lower position rank that was pretty safe and comfy. Captain Picard was inserted into this new version of himself and it drove him crazy. So he had a second chance to get stabbed in the heart to get noticed by Star Fleet as a risk taker.
>>222514075If I had 5 million absolutely. 2% credit union savings account would generate 100k a year. I would beat off and eat junk food for 50 years and die happy with Cheetos dust on my boner. But now I gotta wage. Niggers
If only Picard would have bitched out and not stood on principle. A timid man not willing to fight for justice. He wouldn't have been captain material. It's a pretty easy story to follow.
>>222513993the cost of the medication i need to be able to exercise executive function
>>222514177Youre like my twin or something. Very based. I remember when people were trying to trade a million bitcoin for $1 on here and I laughed at them saying no one would ever buy their monopoly bullshit shitcoin.Now I wage all night, in the day..forever
>>222513537this episode actually infuriated me. I saw it discussed here often so I thought it's some quintessential star trek episode so I watched it. I expected to see some amusing interactions where picard had to obey his former subordinates, to see how they operate in the position of power. but instead I got like 5 separate instances where that god fuck is short of walking up to the camera staring directly into the frame and saying "you see..... maybe you should sometimes DARE to achieve great heights" like I'm a two year old. I cannot take star trek fags seriously after this shit, even children's books are not that direct in spelling out the meaning of a story.
>>222514306It sounds like you don't dare to achieve great heights, anon.
>>222514325Idk, he sounds like the biggest faggot on the planet & thats a pretty big height to achieve.
>>222514306Dont forget he rapes his classmate
>>222513786Anon, if Picards uniform looks blue to you, adjust the Tint knob on your 27" CRT.
>>222514449i-it's not blue? aaaaahhhhhhh i'm going crazy!
>>222514280>ForeverWell maybe since we're twins if one of us makes it the other might too. Maybe we could be big guys together some day
>>222514252stop living in muttmerica
>>222514449>Nintendo games>Goldeneye 64 could be here he thought. While the expired Mug root beer from 2005 coursed through his veins while "Days Go By" reverberated throughout his parents house feeding his merrited nostalgia for the early 2000s>You can play anything on a CRT
>>222513651>>222513919This shit really never sat right with me, either. It's amazing how shitlibs and cuckservatives always pretend fight with each other while also constantly agreeing with each other about nearly every thing, including shitting all over laborers.
>>222513537This episode and the Lower Decks episode were the two minor blemishes in an otherwise nearly flawless series.I don't mean that they were bad episodes but they clearly violated the preestablished lore.
>>222513537This episode goes against the very nature of Star Trek.The whole point of Star Trek is that it is a magical communist future society where there are no problems or strife and everyone is happy at their jobs. By the show’s own morality, Picard should be happy being a “wagie”.>B-B-B-But he remembers his past life-Doesn’t matter. According to Star Trek logic, every crew member is happy with their job because Star Trek is perfect communism. Picard should be happy with his “Wagie” job regardless if he remembers his past because that is what the future is and what the show promotes.Instead the episode goes against the whole point of the show’s set-up by implying that only high-ranking Star Fleet are happy and the low ranking workers are slave cattle.
>>222515215>The whole point of Star Trek is that it is a magical communist future society where there are no problems or strife and everyone is happy at their jobsWrong.
The point is that asking yourself who you'd be if you'd made different choices is retarded because only you could have lived the life you lived. If you had chosen differently, you'd be someone else entirely. Don't fret about hypotheticals and focus only on what's in front of you: your tight teenage friend, played by an actress who is about to get Stewart'd.
>motivating them to do something with their livesImpregnate female crewmembers en masse
>>222513537>episode tells tards to act if they want to achive>weak willed puny bodied tards get angry >bad episode bad! star trek failed us!lol
>>222513537you misunderstood.this episode is not saying that "mediocrity" is bad.he's not miserable as a low rank scientist because he's a low rank scientist, but because he lives in his head, afraid to take action. if you're content as a low rank scientist, perfect!If you feel deep inside that you want to lead and climb the ladder (not because of ego or social pressure, but just something... unexplainable, something deep within you), what you need is to be able to find courage whenever an obstacle appears, and keep going, as courage is not something you get and hold. you have to look for it every single time.
>>222513537>people still take this episode seriously as if it isn't literally just Q fucking with Picard for his own entertainment
Such relentless same faggotry in this thread. Where was that new board that filters nonwhite countries?
>>222515465Picard is not sitting around asking himself who he'd be if he made different choices. He's critical of recklessness in general and the recklessness of his own youth. Q repeatedly hammers the point that recklessness is an important part of what makes him who he is, someone not as dissimilar to Q as he likes to think. How are there retards who turn this into a parable about no regrets yolo faggotry?
>>222516239>How are there retards who turn this into a parable about no regrets yolo faggotry?It's called unintended messages unforeseen by the authors.You know how every normal person likes seeing the bugs get zapped in Starship Troopers while the predditors piss and moan about muh satire and media literacy? Get the picture, zoombie?
>>222516239>>222517069One thing I forgot to add: it's also about taking a flaming dump on the underclasses.
>>222517069Hey, faggot, I understand the mechanism by which this occurs, and I was expressing exasperation that there are people dim enough that that's their takeaway from the episode. Cool your autismn. Go play Sonic or something.
Did you retards even watch the episode?It had nothing to do with what rank you achieve, it was about finding purpose in life. And for Picard, it was serving others that became his spark precisely because he was a self serving asshole when he was younger.It just so happened that achieving high command was a good avenue for him to do this. He gets to serve and help thousands of people in that way.
>>222517176>Sonichow tf you gonna have a platformer and make the character jump perpendicular to the ground when he's on a hill? Seriously, fuck that gay ass Sega shit, they deserved to lose the 16-bit war just for that.
>>222513651ThisIt's a punishment for Picard, specifically, because he's a man with a certain amount of pride and ambition who desires and relishes being in a command role, and having that stripped away from him is more than he can bare. If you want to read between the lines, we can assume that those desires were also within Blue Shirt Picard and he carried them with him for his entire life, the only difference being that he was too much of a coward to ever act on them or work towards what he really wanted. He refused to take risks, and so fell into a role he didn't really want because he never dared to reach for anything higher. It's a mid-life crisis episode, showing the inherent tragedy of a life when you refuse to ever even try and achieve your dreams. Blue Shirt Picard isn't a loser because he's a low ranking starfleet astronomical surveyor; The job itself is irrelevant, as there are people who genuinely love the work, but we as an audience understand that it isn't what Picard really wants in either timeline, so it's presented as a nightmare because it represents the fear of letting your life pass you by
>>222513827>if blue shirt picard genuinely realized he wasted his life he could immediately rededicate the next 50 years of his working life to education, free counseling, travel to different societies of interesting people, and not be out anything but his free time.Isn't it implied that there's a militaristic quality of time served at play in Starfleet? It always seemed to me they like people to follow a certain timeline if they're going to be in command roles, like in Best of Both Worlds where they constantly tell Riker>Hey, if you don't wake the fuck up and take command of a ship soon you're gonna get one upped by the next class of junior officers and be a first officer foreverThere was basically no chance of Blue Shirt Picard, being as old as he was, to ever get into a captain's chair again
>>222517514>There was basically no chance of Blue Shirt Picard, being as old as he was, to ever get into a captain's chair againCommie utopia seems pretty bleak. Might as well be modern day capitalist utopia at this point, with entry level positions requiring 8 years of prior experience.
>>222513537So does Picard considers his staff peices of shit? Organizations should have mutual respect, reminds me of Riker getting ass blasted by a normal commander.
>>222514497For you.
>>222513651>>222513537>>222513759Retards like you are what makes writers think they shouldn't write any subtlety because you come up with the most retarded conclusions even from the shallowest of subtext
>>222514043This one's so retarded he couldn't even interpret a single post.
>>222514726That voyager episode with Michael Mccean as the clown is so good.
>>222518394Tbqh, I do sometimes struggle with poorly written posts by brainless losers. I'm not upset by it so you shouldn't be either, faggot.
>>222513537>>222498960
>>222515215It's a cold shower for every chud that believes perfect societies can exists and can still get "according to his needs". Every society (Star Trek included) even after providing a great deal of goods to everyone still favors and rewards the bold, the imaginative, the ambitious. And of course the ones that are born into the right familyYeah you can be a blue shirt and do the bare minimum, and yeah you won't be fired and you'll have everything through replicator and holodeck. But it'll be Picard who dicks down alien bitches, beams down to unknown planets to decide their faith, etc.
