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>*teaches your kids some Dornish*
dead general
Is it possible Jon survived the stabbing?
Who was better in bed Robert or Rhaegar?
>>222657160Viserys III Targaryen was the prince that was promised
>>222657109why did stannis trust the florents at all after they fucked him over by declaring for renly first?
>>222657208He seethes to Davos in the book about how all his new bannermen sided with Renly first and that he’ll just have to live with it
>>222657160>>222657197If only that meddling bald boomer had minded his own business
>>222657168Arya tanked being stabbed in the stomach multiple times and she’s a small girl. Jon’s tough he’ll live.
>>222657292With a big army he’d be able to land in Westeros just in time for the war of five kings. The Dornish would join him and then all he’d need is a few victories and lords around the realm would declare for him.
>>222657208>"It was justice," Stannis said. "A good act does not wash out the bad, nor a bad act the good. Each should have its own reward. You were a hero and a smuggler." He glanced behind at Lord Florent and the others, rainbow knights and turncloaks, who were following at a distance. "These pardoned lords would do well to reflect on that. Good men and true will fight for Joffrey, wrongly believing him the true king. A northman might even say the same of Robb Stark. But these lords who flocked to my brother's banners knew him for a usurper. They turned their backs on their rightful king for no better reason than dreams of power and glory, and I have marked them for what they are. Pardoned them, yes. Forgiven. But not forgotten." He fell silent for a moment, brooding on his plans for justice.https://youtu.be/Pupn-WLNBZ8?t=128
>>222657400Stannis as king would be a kingdom surviving from unrest and rebellion which would unironically be kino
>>222656661no
>>222657255Post that video of her saying "daddy"
>>222657400Man, George really liked messing with Stannis even if he never got to kill him like Jew&Jewer did.
Sex with Daeron the...?
>>222657555Diddled
>>222657555twat
>>222657555Daeron the Darling!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpwJKzpqlvEWhy does he have him swear to obey his liege if he is king and thus has no liege? Dumb Ormund.
do you think any of the main actors eventually resented being cast in GOT?
>>222657400>“Renly offered me a peach. At our parley. Mocked me, defied me, threatened me, and offered me a peach. I thought he was drawing a blade and went for mine own. Was that his purpose, to make me show fear? Or was it one of his pointless jests? When he spoke of how sweet the peach was, did his words have some hidden meaning?” The king gave a shake of his head, like a dog shaking a rabbit to snap its neck.>“Only Renly could vex me so with a piece of fruit. He brought his doom on himself with his treason, but I did love him, Davos. I know that now. I swear, I will always harden thinking of my brother’s peach.”
>>222657628If we had Stannis PoV would he be mindbroken with the peach, as Jaime is with Moonboy and Tyrion is with the place the whores go?
Never forget.
>>222657663Obviously, he's literally telling us he's mindbroken and filled with guilt, he keeps thinking about Renly.
>>222657708I bet that nigger fat fuck and his autistic wife were the ones that convinced fatman to kill her with the "muh DaemonB can't be a green!" excuse.
>>222657628The peach was Stannis' wife's vagina?
>>222657749It's Loras's bussy. He was suggesting a threesome.
>>222657135Titless freak with receding jaw.
>>222657400>Stannis said. "A good act does not wash out the bad, nor a bad act the good.>burns his own daughter at stake
>>222657745I mean it’s better than suicide
I always thought these guys would end up playing a important role in rallying people against Dany and her forces of barbarian heathens but we ended up with them being wiped out by Cersei without any repercussions
>>222657875>always thought these guys would end up playing a important role in rallying people against Dany and her forces of barbarian heathensOh, you thought you read actual fantasy book and not a pile of millenial coded subversive horseshit.
>>222657708how the fuck did Unwin Peake get away with all the bullshit he pulls?like the queen suddenly dies, and he immediately puts his daughter forward to marry Aegon III, like that's so fucking obvious the man should have been arrested then and there.
>>222657827Suicide was already cruel, but that greedy piece of shit Peake killing her is cruel over the top and also retarded. The black regents, mainly Cregan and Black Aly would have a vested interest in her staying alive since that's the only thing that keeps the Hightowers from chimping out and restarting the Dance specially since Ormunds' first son is a hothead. But miraculously Peake's left to his devices and everyone else fucked off back home despite being the winners of the war.
>>222657920That's on D&D to be fair and not George. No central authority likes to give up some power. But these are desperate times and they do offer a army of ultra religious zealots, they are tolerated for now. Pretty obvious what the analogy is but D&D simply didn't care or were too fucking stupid.
>>222658080Through a series of unfortunate events he essentially had the city locked down with his cronies and packed the kingsguard
Just got out of the mad king stage show Aerys so based for trolling Robert with a ‘model of his parents ship’>a casket of water with some splintered wood floating in it
>>222658384>Steffon is Aerys' friend on a mission for him>Aerys mocks his deathWas the point that Aerys was a crazy seething mess? Or did the playwriters forget why Steffon was on a ship?
>>222657628
>>222658417>the mad king was actually madWho writes this shit?
>>222657824>still losesthe Seven punished him for turning his back on them AND for burning his daughter and all those other people to death for a heathen WHORE
>>222658458If there's something people hate more than a poofter, it's a chad poofter.
why would Stannis, an honorable man, sleep with a red witch WHORE
>>222658470>mad king sends his childhood friend and cousin on a mission>as a jokeWeeee ooohhhhh weeeeeooooohhbh
To be fair to Aerys II the Defiance of Duskendale was most likely a inside job.
>>222658528Stannis is a just man, not an honourable one>>222658545Is it true Aerys was sexually assaulted by guards while held prisoner?
>>222657663Massive Moonboy cock broke Jaime.
TAOOBA!
>>222658384Why do they keep casting these 4/10s as Rhaegar?
>>222658520Book Renly is based
>>222658417He was supposed to come back with a pure Valyrian waifu from the orient for Rhaegar.
>>222658528>Stannis>Honorable?
>Many accounts inform us that the mountain warriors of Kayakayanaya, Samyriana, and Bayasabhad are all women, daughters of the Great Fathers who rule these cities, where girls learn to ride and climb before they learn to walk, and are schooled in the arts of the bow, the spear, the knife, and the sling from earliest childhood. Lomas Longstrider himself tells us that there are no fiercer fighters on all the earth. As for their brothers, the sons of the Great Fathers, ninety-nine of every hundred are gelded when they reach the age of manhood and live out their lives as eunuchs, serving their cities as scribes, priests, scholars, servants, cooks, farmers, and craftsmen. Only the most promising males, the largest and strongest and most comely, are permitted to mature and breed and become Great Fathers themselves in their turns. Maester Naylin’s Rubies and Iron—named for the penchant of the warrior women to wear iron rings in their nipples and rubies in their cheeks—speculates on the circumstances that led to such strange customs.
>>222658701I saw the actor out of costume in an interview and I think he could play a good book accurate Renly.
>>222658734>Your Grace I have found pure Valyrian waifu, she is even of royal blood!>Barba Bittersteel-Blackfyre
>>222658528>Melisandre had spent the night in her chair by the fire, as she often did. With Stannis gone, her bed saw little use. She had no time for sleep, with the weight of the world upon her shoulders.Oh no no no
SCHLOP SCHLOP SCHLOP SCHLOP SCHLOP SCHLOP SCHLOP SCHLOP SCHLOP SCHLOP SCHLOP SCHLOP SCHLOP SCHLOP SCHLOP
Alys only loves Aemond. She is a loyal witch.
Favourite non-Great House?For me, it's Mallister.
>Wants knock his deranged father from the thrones>Needs all the political and potentially military aid he could needYeah but before that let's piss off House Baratheon, House Stark and adjacent houses and lords.No really what the fuck was he thinking?
>>222658959he was a retard
>>222658906
>>222658959Nobody knows, and nobody knows if that came from GeorgeConventionally it’s been theorized that Rhaegar engineered the alliance system in order to bring down the Targaryens, under the guise of usurping Aerys, as part of the Azor Ahai prophecy. But in the play he’s an idiot
>>222658959Distracted by a boisterous pre-teen. Happens to the best of us.
>>222658906Dondarrion.
>>222658959Something something Lyanna also had a prophecy dream about ice n fire and they agreed to run off
So this season of HotD was dogshit huh
>>222658959He was probably a bit autistic.
>>222659165Still better than last
At this point we should all agree that the prince who was promised was meant to be the child between Robert Baratheon and Lyanna Stark.
>>222659251Fuck off Robert you fat retarded sot
>>222659251no, the real Prince who was Promised is Aegon Blackfyre, descendant of the true king Daemon Blackfyre who was denied his throne.
>>222659057Lyanna was already a 16yo teenager when Rhaegar saw her, Arya is an actual pre-teen.
>>222659303He’s not a male-line Blackfyre
>>>/lit/25477747
>>222659238debatable
>>222659350WHAT
>>222659350There’s a gen for the books? Later losers.
>>222659432It’s not active, unfortunately.
>>222659432There arent any nigger targs over there and everything we talk about is real canon
>>222659432It’s not any less unhinged than this place it’s just a bit more literate
>>222659467I've been reactivating it with my postsI can power an entire thread on my own
>>222659481All I see is some ancient aliens schizo theory claiming that the Targaryens came from the moon and that Reptilians raped and ate everyone Tinfoil hat nonsense
Actors should just protest the script given from time to time.
>>222659501More realistic than black people
>>222659501Lol the schizos are the best part
>>222659501The moon was hallow and it was a SPACESHIP before it got blown up by the weirwood missiles
>>222659501I found the post you refer to and you drastically misunderstood it, probably on purpose>>>/lit/25466289
>>222659580Um no I’m referring to the loads of insane bullshit several threads back. You need to look into the archives to really see just how fucking insane these people are. Shit like >>222659576
>Phia and Tom had to actively argue with the writers to include scenes of Aegon and Helaena together>meanwhile the showrunners kneel to Emma D'arcy's every whimThis show should have a documentary for what weird ass shit is happening behind the scenes to make this garbage.
I miss the /tg/ generalsiykyk
>>222659576based children of the forest hippies
>>222659580https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=Valyrians+space
>>222659667same. i remember wrecking some anon in a lore discussion and he had the most insane melty over it lol.
>>222659667I don’t. You didn’t belong there. You were always a rancid little colony.
>>222659699>your one (1) thread didn't belong that board!!the fuck is your problem
>>222659735I hope you choke on an apricot :)
I hope you step on a lego :^)
>>222659752>>222659846Littlefinger and Varys debating philosophy at the feet of the iron throne
many say that one of Dany's dragons was actually Aerion after his successful wildfire experiment
>>222659927Yeah his soul got shoved into an egg.
>We know that humans, horses, turnips, etc. evolved on Earth and we know Planetos isn't Earth, thus it had to have been colonized by humans from Earth but as we don't currently have the technology to do that, Planetos had to have been colonized in our distant future.>My take is that the Valyrians were genetically engineered humans here on Earth (like Star Trek's Khan Noonien Singh) who took over the planet and enslaved regular humans and at some point in our future, a group of them left to colonize Planetos.>But afterwards, some kinda conflict erupted among the Valyrians that resulted in a civil war so devastating, the enslaved regular humans on Planetos got knocked back into a stone age and forgot their Earth origins (and possibly caused the screwy climate) and the handful of surviving Valyrians, used some of their remaining genetic tech (i.e "magic") to create dragons and attempted to reconquer the planet, founding the Valyrian Freehold.>This gave rise to the Faceless Men who stole some of that tech and created magical nukes, (which they first tested on Hardhome) and toppled the Valyrians.>Also, the Red Comet is the Valyrian's hollowed out asteroid space ship, stuck in a long period orbit around the system.Ah sweet a kino schizo moment
>>222659667Is there a good asoiaf rpg? And by good I mean do the characters I like have better stats than the ones I don't.
GoTfags are like Jews Always wandering from board to board
>>222660012>got thread on /qa/ never ever
>>222659667what was the subject?
>>222660050>/qa/???
>>222660012I'm going to start a thread on /r/ RIGHT NOW.
>>222659984I have Crusader Kings 3 and a couple DLC things that are supposed to be good for the 'CK3AGOT' modI've never actually gotten around to actually playing it but it seems really fun from the footage I've seen.
>>222658475R'hllor is as real as the seven desu
>>222660064What character’s severed head would make the best door stopper
>>222660064It was mostly about how misunderstood and heroic the Brave Companions were. Have you heard of the Brave Companions? Typical show only fag. Of course you haven’t.
>>222660208Thats why they call him R'eallor
>>222660208R'hllor is a DEMON.
>>222660118I played some of it as Rhaegar but once you win the rebellion it gets kind of boring because he’s good at everything and everyone loves him.
>>222660233You mean the Bloody Mummers?
>>222660286Yes. Okay maybe you’re a cool kid.
>>222660103>there are newfags so new that they don't remember /qa/
I just finished AKOSK for the first time. While it was pretty good, I'm pretty pissed that they decided to insert a 20 minute flashback in the middle of the combat episode. The Arlan bit was good, the one with the girl was really boring. I also don't remember Dunk getting as much punishment in the book, it feels like it would take way more to recover from that. And yeah, they could have shown way more combat by other characters.
>>222660219It’s be Dunk’s since it’s thick as a castle wall.
>>222660286This is a second sons thread.
>>222657109egg is icsh
>songs in Dothraki randomly Um Dunk’s mentor is highly suspicious
>>222660378Rhaego the time traveling fetus
>>222660118The tabletop rpg.
>>222660378He’s been to Asshai. Fought shadowmancers and lizard men, he did!
>>222660118I have ck2 mod>Aegon II automatically becomes bffs with his brothersCute.>brother queens are real
>>222657109I'm reading Fire and Blood and holy shit GRRM is such a fraud>Aegon I starts the conquest after the Targs lived in Westeros for generations>The Andal Kings just march their armies conventionally and get absolutelly BTFO by the dragons, they have absolutelly no answer to the dragons at all, they just lose once the targs start spitting fire from aboveSo... After all this time there was no military doctrine or strategy to try countering the dragons? Valyria existed for thousands of years and anti-dragon warfare is not a thing at all??>The Vale rebels against the Targaryens (known for having dragons)>Maegor appear on the Eyrie riding a dragon and the rebels immediatly give upBrilliant. I wonder how many times a guy riding a dragon will appear and the battle will be won because of it.
reminder that Maegor the Cruel had shitty, weak sperm LMAO
>>222660629The seven cursed him and his witch mother
>>222660629All the fetuses were being poisoned in the womb by Tyanna of the Tower
How did the Targs avoid inbreeding defects and I'm not talking about one guy going made after 300 years of sister-niece-aunt fucking
>>222660734Probably blood magic.>>222660682So why didn't Maegor just fuck a baby into Tyanna?
>>222660734Incest is only bad because it increases the probability of hereditary disorders. The targs had no hereditary disorders so there was no risk in it
>>222660734All those “stillborns” were them putting down their own children whenever they were born with clear physical defects. A few survived like Gael, Jaehera, and Rhaegal but they were only mentally slow not physically disfigured. Aegon II spared his six fingered son because he was a good man who loved his children.
>>222660734did you miss the half lizard demon babies
>>222660349>egg is icshYou post this every thread, what does this mean?
>>222660856it's pedo gibberish
>>222660856It means he is a disgusting pedo who should rope.
>>222660829the what? I'm a show only secondary
>>222660682how does poison make babies come out with wings and scales?
>>222661043Targaryen stillbirths always look like that
>>222660926Both rhaenyra and daenerys gave birth to half-lizard babies.
>>222660734Nigga one of Aegon's twins has 6 fingers and the other is autistic with learning disabilities.
>>222661147>and the other is autistic with learning disabilities.I mean...
>>222658384who's the black girl?
>>222661238lyanna lmao
>Jaehaera was known for never smiling or crying as a baby>continues to show a lack of emotion growing up>has a black dragon she named Morghul, meaning DEATHKid was gonna grow up to be the second coming of Visenya/Maegor.
>>222661262>it's realkek
>>222660568wait until you read that westeros had dragons and dragon killers / hunters way before valyria even existed
>>222661423So... They just kind of forgot how to kill dragon when Aegon arrived?
>>222659978kino indeed
>>222661283shoot up the red keep and then burn it down with wildfire
>>222661423Serwyn of the Mirror Shield would neg diff any Targaryen dragon rider
>>222661283>tfw no goth targ gf
>>222661529Tyrion’s arc
>>222661283>>222661529>>222661660You just know Jaehaera probably spat in Aegon III's mouth
>>222661423>>222661567it's pure myth, just like Saint George the dragon-slayet
>>222661717dragon-slayer*
>>222661470the north rememberedfrom the top of my head thorren stark had a bastard brother called somethng snow that was an archer and had aegon and his sisters basically on a sniped position, he had a weirwood bow and arrow, he was hot blooded but he basically spared the conqueror's life for peace and unity
Jon’s real name is Aegon, right?
>>222661750It’s Viserys
>>222661750Daemon
>>222661762I think he abandoned the idea that his children were the three heads by the end
>>222661750I think it's in GURM's style to name Jon "Jaeherys" because, you know, both start with J.
>>222661750It's Aemon
>>222661802Or rather, when he decided to put a prophecy baby in Lyanna >>222661828Aemon is the other possibility. Aemon is a name usually given to the second son and they never get the throne
>>222661750Jon is named after Jon Connington
>>222662006Rhaegar would never name his precious prophecy baby after his homosexual orbiter
>>222661750Rhaegar wanted a Visenya to finish the setbut since Jon came out male Lyanna probably named him something else, most likely Aemon or even Daemon.
>get BTFO by Stannis during their rebellion>get BTFO by Johanna Lannister during the Dance >get BTFO by Aegon during the Conquest>Balon gets BTFO by a slippery bridge >Euron about to get BTFO by the Hightowers Guys, I'm beginning to think the Ironborn are a bunch of shitters.
>>222662203Euron is about the nuke Oldtown
>>222662203>>get BTFO by Stannis during their rebellionThis is especially embarrassing because Stannis has never even won a land battle against a peer opponent.
>>222657160>>222657292Gods I miss him
>>222662255Stannis had the royal fleet, the redwyne fleet, and ships from oldtown by the way, he outnumbered the greyjoys
>>222657624I doubt it. 99% of the GOT actors made more money and got more exposure being on the show than any other gig they'd ever done.
>>222657162Good, this general SUCKS
>>222662203Quellon Greyjoy, Balon's father, was the only Ironborn who ever had the bright idea "hey, maybe constantly raiding our closest neighbors coasts is a shitty idea" and wanted to make stronger connections with the greenlanders to improve the Ironborn's lives, but of course he died and his shitty son takes over and goes on about muh old ways.
>>222662286Yeah, and Stannis beat 50,000 wildlings with like 100 guys.
>>222662536>Stannis beat 50,000 disorganized, unarmored, starving women and children from a civilization a full 1,000 years behind him technologically O-ours is the fury...
I don't think I've ever belonged in this fanbase because it's split between those who care about muh politics muh human wars muh army logistics and those who care about muh magic muh dragons muh propheciesIt's like super schizophrenic
>>222662251The horn he has is a fake. He's getting vaporized by the Hightower's Death Star laser.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HapUMijWmhsName a single HOTD scene that can top this, I'm waiting.
>>222657109
>>222662699the magic side of game of thrones is total and absolute dogshite though, like it's meaningless prattle that does nothing for the story. The only magic you need to know about is that the targarians ancestors bound dragons to be their slaves through blood.
Fuck you
>>222663401Meant for Ygritte >>222663342
>>222662699I care about both those things.
>>222663401
>>222663262Why didn’t Dunk go to Tarth with Lyonel? Is he a fag?
>>222657109>tfw Jon pulls out a DnD Dragon figurehttps://litter.catbox.moe/5czu7klasq6lw4th.mp4
>>222657400that's as similar thought process from Machiavelli Renly's supporters are untrustworthy opportunists, Robb and Joffrey supporters would be much more loyal to Stannis if they were to switch to him, as at the very least they are following their conscious
>>222663620Renly’s supporters were not untrustworthy opportunists. Renly’s supporters were the lords of the Stormlands, who were obliged to follow their liege lord, and the Tyrells, whose bannermen were obliged to follow them
I love Warrior Of Light ost.
>Darkstar>Weirwood / Eyes of the World>Dire Wolf>Mountains of the Moon>steal your face>Gold Road
They should cast Draymond Green as Draemond Targaryen
>>222659020So are these guys Ironnigger rapebabies or what? Because they're very near to the Iron Isles and there is a branch of Kennings there as well.
>>222659501Squishers really did like raping humans. Cracklaw point, the Sisters, and Toad Isle were all strong evidence for the theory in conjunction with the local mythos about them. But the people of the Thousand Islands are just straight up proof.
>>222664327They’re civilized Ironborn who were given lands in exchange for swearing fealty to House Lannister and defending from further Ironborn raids.
>>222664433George should have given us a Vinland/Greenland/Iceland inspired Ironnigger colony somewhere. Like a group of Ironniggers that settled an island off Sothoryos and turned into hippie butterfly worshippers rather than raiding niggers.
>*slobbersth in your path*
>>222664482
>>222660349luke is icsh
>You break law… and centuries of tradition to install your daughter as heir.>Yet you dare tell me… who deserves to inherit the name Velaryon.>No.>I will not allow it.>“Allow it”?>Do not forget yourself, Vaemond.Who was in the right here?
>>222663460Imagine the kino adventures we could have witnessed... God damn him
Gods I miss them.
>>222664857Rhaenyra was spitting in her most important allies faces by parading her bastards around when everyone in Westoros could see the truth. Viserys was delusional.
>>222664857
kind of surprised that /got/hotd/dunk/ pretty much agrees with the consensus rankings that the fanbase at large has as far as where they rank each series and each season. 4chan is so contrarian I'm surprised there's not people arguing how good later seasons of /got/ were and so on
How hard could it really have been for grrm to maintain creative control over the series especially after the first go around?
>>222664877Fuark they could bring Egg to Storms End too.
>>222665128Very hard since he can't even control his own schedule when it comes to the books
>>222659978All of this is very likely true.
>>222665394I’m trying my best.
>>222664857Aerys was peak delusional at that point, so Vaemond was right.
Jon Snow = Last HeroDany = Azor Ahai rebornfAegon = The prince that was promisedStannis = Night KingIt's all there, you will see...
daemon blackfyre = the prince that was promisedbrynden rivers = night cuck
Why didn’t Rhaenyra just marry Harwin?
>>222665547>Vamond was rightNAWW HOMIE YOU BE FUCKING WITH DA LAW AND DA TRADISHUN FO YO BITCH ASS KID
>>222665128I suspect he can't even maintain control of his bowel movements at this point.
>>222660734>>222660817Genetically, your 2nd cousin is the optimum mate. That’s a fact btw.
>>222665658AYO...THE PRINCESS?THE PRINCESS IS A WHORE AND HER KIDS ARE ALL BASTARDS.REAL TALK.
>>222665611Rhaegar was Azor AhaiJon is The Prince that was Promised, the Last Hero, and the Night King
So I’ve been rewatching to get a fresh take and Season 1 is great until the time skip and decent until episodes 9 and 10. Mysaria sucks in every scene she’s in but adult Rhaenyra remains likeable until some point in Season 2 same with Alicent. I’m halfway through Season 2 and don’t remember it getting better so I’d say it starts off pretty kino except for the botching of blood and cheese, the stupid ratcatchers speech and the shitty cgi dragon fight in rook’s rest although Rhaenys gets rekt so that’s a plus. Still mad at Aemond, still rooting for Aegon. Also they start really killing Alicent’s character around episodes 3-4 of Season 2. Oh and yeah the Rhaenicent meeting was retarded as well. That is all.
>the darcy thread has overtaken /got/
>>222666045I read that as Dacey and got excited someone made a Dacey Mormont thread.
>>222665128He signed a new deal with HBO in 2021. So this was after the end of GOT. He knew what to expect. He saw what happened with the ending. The truth is HBO showed him a check with lots and lots of zeroes and he said yes. This way he gets an obscene amount of money and still gets to bitch and moan about how they're messing up his work. That's why I just roll my eyes when he has a new grievance. No one forced him to sign that contract. Also in order to have creative control he'd have to be on set constantly and writing new material, which we know the can't do. Working with George would be a nightmare.
>>222665009I like how TB was all “fuck yeah, screw the rules! the bias against bastards is dumb anyway!” when Rhaenyra was parading her bastards around and forcing everyone to pretend they’re legit, but when she fucked over Corlys’ bastards they’re like “uhh what would you have her do? he knew what he was getting into and recognising them would be politically disadvantageous for her”. It’s almost like spawning a whole team of bastards was a monumentally stupid idea to begin with.
>>222658906Corbray
>>222664480No clue why, realistically, the Ironniggers don't settle a colony or just take over Skagos. It's similar in geography to their home, some rocky islands, except on the other side of Westeros, and thus like many months travel closer to Essos for raiding, which the Iron Throne shouldn't give much a shit about, compared to them attacking the various seven kingdomsAnd the joke is, no one would give a shit if they went and just wiped out all the Skagosi
>>222666153I liked how the Mormont girlies didn't judge Cat for freeing Jaime. GURM should have made them proper friends like Aly and Asha.
>>222660012I kinda want to run a /qst/ thread set around/during the Dance. But the board became so slow, I'm reluctant if there's no interest
>>222662255>um achually Stannis has never won a battle in the Vale on a WedensdayRidiculous person. Ridiculous argument.
>>222660734IRL the Ptolemaic dynasty habitually incest-married, like Cleopatra was shockingly inbred. And yet, they apparently were more or less fine. Contrast with the Hapsburgs of course. The tl;dr of it is that it's not automatically bad for family "health" as long as you're careful or lucky about how you do it.
>>222663262fking lmao at Arlan's reaction
>>222667241How is Stannis never winning a land battle against a peer opponent a ridiculous argument against his competency?
>>222667365The point of warfare is to never fight a battle against a peer opponent.You have a very low IQ, if the 55 modifiers you had to add to that statement didn't clue you in on that.
>>222667401What’s logistics?
>>222667263There's a non-zero chance that the Ptolemaic women were just hoes and thus the kids being fine is just kids being bastards.
I think Cersei’s paranoid delusions of Tyrion hiding inside the walls of the red keep are subconsciously rooted in stories of Lann the clever tormenting the Casterlys that she was taught as a kid.
>>222667511Genetic testing on a few of them would indicate otherwise
>>222667401“Peer opponent” here means that the power you are fighting can summon resources equal to your own. Obviously you would be able to engineer battles such that you have advantages like numbers over your opponent. The only time where Stannis fights a peer opponent is at the Blackwater where he gets KWAB’d.
>>222664824season 1 bran is icsh
>>222667518Cersei is actually halfway right in this case. There's definitely someone in the walls.
>conquered the largest of the Iron Island with half loyal dragonstone leviesFuck... Peer opponent bros, I think we have to modify our cope claim to "never won a PITCHED land battle against a peer opponent"
>All of Westeros vs the Iron Islands
>>222667587Story of her life. Her instincts are correct, but he conclusions she comes to are not. Also the schemes she comes up with to deal with her perceived threats are come Wile E. Coyote shit.
....semoc eH
>>222667190Bitches are committers of treason, not comprehenders of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmdlDqOanRg
>>222667696>I don't like what the books say, or alternatively can't understand what they say when getting it served up on a silver platter, let me just substitute it for this fantasy with no textual basis I came up with as a coping mechanismYou hate to see it. Mayhaps you will have to seek out a peer opponent in the hungry hungry caterpillar.
You're tasked with turning this toxic incestuous shitshow into a happy family like pic related. What do you do?
>>222667885Announce Aegon as heir, marry Nyra to Harwin, remove Daemon, give Alicent and orgasm once in a while.
>>222667885Have Viserys abdicate the throne to Rhaenys and cut the Hightowers and Rhaenyra out of the line of succession
>>222667908That would probably still result in the dance. Also, keeping show Rhaenys away for the crown is the best thing for the realm. Not even Maegor went as far as to kill a thousand of plebs just to aura farm. His insane violence had a point.
>>222667845Needs more bassoon
>>222667933>Not even Maegor went as far as to kill a thousand of plebs just to aura farm.Neither did Rhaenys, showfag
>>222667945I did highlight that I was talking about show Rhaenys specifically.
>>222667885Banish Daemon to Essos forever, announce Aegon as heir and raise him as a proper king, marry Rhaenyra to whoever she chooses (within reason), treat Alicent well, ban any potential bastards from the court.
>>222667968I saw that after I posted, I duly cry pardon for my slander against you
Did George name house Tyr(r)ell after a F1 team?
>>222668222it can't hurt that much
>>222668222He should have done this with Arya, repeatedly.
>>222667753!on, on, oN
>>222667753>>222668862
>>222666153Almost every game of ckii, Robb marries Dacey and this is after he’s married to Jeyne/Roslin
>>222667885In a realistic sense, just have the whole succession business decided by another great council after Viserys dies, whether it goes to Rhaenyra or Aegon. In a simpler but meta sense, have Rhaenyra lean on Otto growing up for her education and mentoring/stewarding. I always kind of got the impression that Otto became more scheming and grasping when he came to know that Rhaenyra was stubbornly independent and refusing of mentoring or being controlled/groomed to rule. Like originally he was a supporter of Rhaenyra over Daemon, but when she proved to be a stubborn brat, he started making his own plans via Alicent and so forth. You can even play it out where like, because Viserys and Rhaenyra become estranged especially after his wife/her mother's death, Rhaenyra wants for a father figure and finds it in Otto.
>>222667885Put the family matters theme song over the hotd intro and the rest will happen organically
>>222668167No, after the corporation from Blade Runner
>>222667885>pregnant alicentso kino
Its pure question for the sake of it as we know that all of Cersei's kids will die young, but still: let's say hypotetically Tommen dosent die and somehow sticks on the Throne. How would the dynasty face in the long term the accusations of bastardy?Sooner or later without Cersei the split Baratheons/Lannister identity would fade away (Tyrells already disposed of most of Joffrey's personal heraldy around the Red Keep in book 4) and i suppose already Tommen's kids will mostly identity as Baratheons. But their blondeness compared to thousands of years of black-haired Duranndons and Baratheons would appear again as a legittimacy issues.Maybe they will try to marry someone with proved Baratheon ancestry, or at least someone with black hair?
>>222669036>have the whole succession business decided by another great council after Viserys diesIt always perplexed me when people call book Alicent evil. Sure, she's a major cunt, but she's also fighting for the survival of her brood so she gets some leeway from me on that front.Also, she's the person who tried the hardest to prevent war or at least minimize the damage.>"So, Aegon is your heir now, right?">"Okay, okay, I got it, how about we just marry Aegon and Rhaenyra and merge their claims together?">"Heard some awesome food and drink were saved at the great council. Let's do it! Let's have a great council!">"Fucking Viserys.">"Okay Nyra, here's the deal, your dad is dead (RIP) and we kind of already did the whole crowning thing in you absence. BUT, you get to keep all the land that is normally given to the heir of the iron throne, we will support the claims of your bast-err, sons, AND we'll throw some extra castles in there for a good measure. Also all of you get to be in court and serve in the small council when the time comes. Sounds good?">has everyone step down to prevent KL burning when Rhaenyra and Daemon roll up>"Okay, so, how about we just split the realm in two and stop the war? Yeah?"I never got the impression that she was a full on psycho.
>>222663342did she drink the moon tea in the book?
>>222669129Once you start considering realm sharing, it's a slippery slope. Especially with Daemon, he's too coveting and ambitious
>>222664857Viserys was a weak fucking nigger and deserved being a leper.Daemon deserved a fate worse even.
>>222669180I'm not saying anything would have worked. Daemon would cause a shitstorm no matter what compromise was reached. My point was that book Alicent for all her scheming, ambition, and pettiness was never hawkish. She tried to stop it, just not to the point where she'd be in a position where her kids and grandkids would be at the mercy on Nyra's and Daemon's whims.
>>222669222I was going to btfo of you and shit all over your argument, but noice fucking gettt I concede prematurely, you're 100% correct
The Targaryens should have gone down the route of inheritances in the Holy Roman Empire and fragmented the seven kingdoms into hundreds of statelets ruled by Targaryen "Princes in Westeros and lords of Cockmongler Hall on the Mander", or some such thing
>>222665128 He doesn't want to maintain control cause that would actually mean him having to work by being on set, being the showrunner or one of them and having to argue every decision that deviates from the books with whoever HBO appoints as the co-showrunner, with writers and directors and he's clearly too much of an appeaser do that.Much easier to just take the money, stay home eating nachos off the turkish whore's ass and whining on his blog about how they butchered his story.
>>222669126I don’t think him and Myrcella would ever escape the whispers of it, probably sent off to the wall/silent sisters/Casterly rock being the kindest option and maybe start their own cadet line????
Descend upon Dragonstone with Vaghar, Sunfyre, Dreamfyre and Tessarion before Viserys' body is cold and force a deal or burn Daemon and Caraxes.Dance is solved.
>>222669490Daemon still win in this scenario btw
>>222669504Ok ESL.
>>222669490Tessarion is off in Old Town. If you take the time to fetch her, then Rhaenys has the time to flee with Meraxys. Then it's still a numerical superiority in favor of the Blacks. Though, Vhagar is worth like 2-3 dragons to be fair.Although desu senpai, it could potentially be gigakino if the supposed "Dance of the Dragons" conflict, instead of being some great war, instead was just one single mega dragon battle, with all the dragons in the skies above Dragonstone. The entire succession crisis resolved in a few hours, in one legendary, bloody dragon clash, winner takes all.
>>222669543I miss her bros...how 2 find an irl helaena gf
>>222660734Targs have magical blood that protects them from that.
>>222660734Magical Valyrian wizard eugenics. Their genes are IMMACULATE.The others must have taught Craster much of the same, given that he practiced multi-generational hyper-incest without ending up with drooling Maria Antonia von Habsburg daughters.
>>222669575>numerical superiority in favor of the BlacksIn the scnario given by >>222669490 the greens have the element of surprise, they could probably kill 2 or three dragonriders before they can mount
>>222669575Send a raven to Ormund telling him that Daeron must meet them at the Dragonpit at once. All four depart as soon as he arrives.
>>222669684That would still take several days at the absolute soonest, and Rhaenys escaped the same or next day.
>>222667263At least some of the Lagids were polygamous. So a few sibling marriages might have "only" been between half-siblings.
>>222669126stop trying to ask these reddit questions to keep the thread alive
>>222669680You can't have the element of surprise if your assault requires Tessarion, because >>222669716 Rhaenys precludes the element of surprise. Your only option is to fly literally the moment Viserys dies, but then you're short Tessarion.
>>222669741yes, they should assault without Tessarion, before Rhaenyra has received the news of her fathers death. IIRC Rhaenys wouldn't be in dragonstone and the bastards dragons are small and weak, that leaves only Deamon and Rhaenyra as a threat.
>>222669684>his war plan hinges on sending a secret letter to a guy who can't' read
>>222669741Rhaenys goes to Driftsmark so it makes no difference, and it can't take Daeron more than 2 days anyways.You can also just plan in advance to kill Jace and Luke and offer Rhaenys and Corlys to have Baela and Rhaena marry Aemond and Daeron, they'd stay out of it.
>>222669805Sending a message across half the continent and subsequently flying the same distance on a dragon takes more than two days.
>>222670167Yeah that's why Daemon flies from the riverlands to KL then to the Vale in the space of one episode...
>>222670237>house of the dragon is a bad show that lost all sense of sale, therefore I'm going to be a snarky bitch and it takes a day to fly between King's Landing and OldtownDon't think so, Buster. Soap Opera teleportation devices are NOT CANON.
>>222670237If you're keeping it to the tv show, then Rhaenys does immediately fly to dragonstone, and would be there for a green attack after Viserys's death.
>>222670274This is /tv/ if you don't like us discussing the show, you can head on to /lit/ and discuss fishmen cucking the men of the three sisters or moon spaceships.
>>222669126Trying to marry someone with proven Baratheon heritage would just confirm that there is something to be suspicious about. The best solution is probably what they were doing already, pretend that nothing is wrong. The Tyrells don't care that Tommen is a bastard, so long as Margaery is his queen, Casterly Rock is set to be inherited by Tommen so the lords of the West won't care and that alliance would be enough to keep the rest of Westeros in line, assuming nothing unforseen happens.
>>222664824>>222667577What does icsh mean? Is it some kind of pedo faggot term?
>>222669028Would've been much better for him than becoming involved with the south at all. Even if he would've won the war and the North became independent, the Riverlands would always be its vulnerable ballsack, ready to call the king in the north away from his powerbase whenever something happens.
>>222670361icsh stimulates the synthesis of testosterone in your balls
>>222670346Their claims will always be weak and prone of usurpation by their look, unless they somehow manage to 1984'ing all the written knowledge that told how every single Baratheons before them were basically Robert clones
>>222670346>>222670503Like, at the very least every single Stormland house will use these rumors to try claims Storms End, of which every single Stormlander both noble or commoner would had a stronger claims compared to the royal "Baratheons"
>>222670439So basically you want to fuck young boys. Got it!
>>222670594>youI was only explaining.
>>222670562Every single Reach house also claims Highgarden, but the Tyrells still manage to control them. Lord Estermont and Lord Buckler are present at Joffrey's wedding, and the heir to House Swann has sworn fealty to Joffrey, so it seems that at least a few Stormland houses have already accepted the royal "Baratheon" line.
Lysense Epstein son or Volantene old blood supremacist daughter.Choose wisely.
>>222670825Daughter sounds like she'd be down to fuck.
>>222670825>Volantene old blood supremacist daughterobvious answer
When will she face consequences of her actions?
>>222670825>Volantene old blood supremacist daughterObjectively the right answer, especially because it means that you yourself are also part of the Old Blood of Volantis.
What were Lysa's last thoughts as she fell down?
>>222657374Yeah no lmao, he'd get btfo'd by any of the big 7 (except Tullys). Most of them were wronged by the Targaryens and wouldn't let his schizo babies act unopposed.
>arya meets all kinds of sickos in the riverlands during war>not even once sexually harassed That was odd
>>222671166why would you molest a little boy
>>222658475Stannis turned his back on them for allowing his parents to die. And he needed Mel only insofar as she could help him seize power. and restore order in the realm. If he ever burns Shereen it wouldn't be to melt few inches of snow.
>>222671174Septon Utt does
>>222671152If the dance is anything to go by half the realm would kneel out of respect and take up his cause once he revealed himself as the Rape king.
>>222660734>I'm not talking about one guy going made>It was revenge for threatening Rhaegar, and a lot of other things. And there was nothing that the Kingsguard could do about it. Aerys was a made man, and Brandon and Rickard weren't
>yeah burning people is sign of good god Sounds like demon to me
>>222671166They were kinda busy getting killed by her male companions. But it's odd that not one of the Brave Companions or Gregor's men tried to rape her when she was a captive in second book.
>>222671315I guess she was too slippery
>WAHHHHHH HELP ME CARAXES>HELP MEEEEEEEE IM DYING HELP ME
So, what's the deal with Elia in the play? I keep hearing that she's basically Cersei. But all I can find is that she's a dyke played by a niggress (tragic). And that she told her uncle to turn cloak if Rheagar falls in battle and have their house join the rebels, which is completely reasonable. Husband is dead and all that's left is fucking Aerys. She needs some leverage to plead for her children's lives.
>>222671166The ancient art of rape was lost once most of the Greens died during the Dance
>>222671360>NOOOOO YOU ANDAL PEASANT DONT YOU KNOW I BELONG TO THE MASTER RA-
>>222671166They were all distracted by Pretty Pia and Gatehouse Ami.
BRING ME THE THREAD STRETCHER
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