Fuck NuTrek Edition
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>hmm how can make Star Trek about smearing white people and casting defamation on their image?I told you guys the frogs were no good for every single thread like 12 months ago, but did you listen? nooo. should have gatekept your hobby harder now the Warfs & Jordies making it all about their ugliness
I'm just curious how the BTS on the Muppet episode worked since Muppet stuff requires an extremely raised floor with cutouts and I can't imagine they'd mod the SNW ones for one 'sode.
Previously on /trek/:>>222657302
So everyone was a puppet except Ethan Peck and Melissa Navia?
>>222693105Based
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>>222693105How accurate is this?
Rest in piss, NuTrek
>>222693203>Melissa Naviawho?
apology for poor englishwhen were you when nutrek died?i was at home watching ironheart when phone ring.“nutrek is kill""no"
>>222693267Maybe these fabled new audiences will show up eventually.
I kinda like Lower Decks.The humor is so-so, it's very similar to Rick & Morty in a lot of ways, and there's a ton of fanservice but it's nice to see some trek content that feels like it's made by actual trekkies, even if it's just comedic.Contrast that with most other nutrek which seems like it was made by people who either don't care about the history of the franchise or hate it.
>>222693263>face tattooIt's actually normally an additional set of genitalia.
>>222693267The sad part is that it wasn't even fuckawful except for that shitty humorBut I won't miss this shit at all once it's gone
>>222693162Short version is, they used shot framing whenever possible, but when they couldn't the puppeteers were kitted out in full greenscreen gear and digitally edited out
>>222693177I wonder what the significance of tatoos would be in the 23rd century when you can do everything else with the body painlessly and in seconds. You could get rid of it by waving a light over it. And probably create it just as easily. There are probably easier methods to paint your skin.
>Alexander Hilary Kurtzman (born September 7, 1973) is an American filmmaker. He is best known for co-writing the scripts to Transformers (2007), Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009), Star Trek (2009), Star Trek Into Darkness (2013), and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) with his writing and producing partner Roberto Orci, and directing and co-writing The Mummy (2017). He made his directorial debut with People Like Us (2012), co-written alongside Orci and Jody Lambert.Jesus wept.
>>222693352This. Not every episode is that good but it seems to come from a team that cares about Trek and isn't trying to shape it into something it never was.
>>222693352>feels like it's made by actual trekkiesMore like made by people who browsed Memory Alpha. This show is the reason all Star Trek is comedyslop now and the fanbase is overrun by trannies. Even if some writers were fans does it matter if the point of the show is "Star Trek is retarded and lame"?
>>222693390>isn't trying to shape it into something it never wasExcept turning it into a retarded adult cartoon for trannies
>>222693393>if the point of the show is "Star Trek is retarded and lame"?I don't think it is though. To be fair sometimes Star Trek is retarded and lame, and I enjoy laughing about those aspects of it the same as many other fans do, but it's not because I hate the franchise overall; quite the opposite.For example the infamous hopscotch episode of DS9 is made fun of in Lower Decks and it's fine, even a little bit chuckle-worthy.
Got my Danube-class souped up sex toyREADY TO HIT THE PROMENADE
>>222693460>To be fair sometimes Star Trek is retarded and lameYou're the target demographic then. It's made exactly for the kind of passive consumer who can't suspend his disbelief even for a second and is allergic to all sincerity and pathos
>>222693469Man I really fucking loved that weird armor tech, a shame they never used it again
>schizo melty threadfun
I think they only use these retarded gimicks to bait people into watching the show. like "huh? The captain's a MUPPET now? dohoho, gotta check this out." Only to influence the viewership numbers. Because, why try to write a REAL story if it's all about hits and social media engagement?
*farts*
He just sits there, menacingly
>>222693545It hasn’t worked because the show is flopping.
>>222693530It's reminding me of something from another show but I can't think of what.
>>222693545You are probably right, it feels like they went from "lame and gay" to "gimmick" this season. Not like it's really helping.
>>222693362
i like my star trek straight and not gay
>>222693362makes for a cool shot
Maybe they should stop intentionally trying to alienate and piss off the audience they already have to try to appeal to an audience that doesn't exist and never will.
>>222693526You've got me totally wrong. Obviously a comedy show is going to be a bit irreverent, but that doesn't mean that I hate the really good stuff in Star Trek, or the comedy. Some people actually do hate the gangster planet episode of TOS but I'll passionately defend it. Objectively I can admit that the concept is extremely silly and totally unrealistic and whatever other criticisms people have of it, but I can easily suspend my disbelief enough that I really enjoy it.
>>222693633Nah man the core audience will always be coming back, fuck them, just appeal to people who don't care about the franchise at all, we'll make billions
>>222693526>>222693646Forgot pic, not that it matters since if you're a real fan then you know what I'm talking about.
The panic shots as enterprise gets hit had me squealing
>>222693606Bill Theiss was also the costume designer for TNG S1.
The lone thing I don't understand is why they went with the it was all a dream copout at the end - there was no need because the premise is no more unlikely than other things they've previously done, and more importantly because the season finale is also a dream episode
>>222693469>READY TO HIT THE PROMENADEIn a "Berlin Christmas market" sense?
>>222693646I mostly hate the gangster planet but mostly because at that point every other fucking episode was another 'not Earth but actually just Earth' history lesson visit and it was getting pretty tiresome.
>>222693741>the season finale is also a dream episode?synopsis reads "A temporal crisis brings Pike's Enterprise face to face with the future Kirk will one day inherit."
>>222693469
>>222693652You're right. Just go to trekbbs, star trek reddit, jammer's reviews, there are the oldschool trek fans who have to watch everything and they keep watching. So, I've read quite a few comments about the ep, and frequently you can read that people found it funny, were laughing and were entertained. And I'm shocked to hear this. How old do you have to be to find this episode funny? 8? Once you have seen the muppets the episode is basically over. It doesn't get any funnier. Oh look, the puppets stand on top of each other and wear a cloak, HAHAHA. Look, they try to punch the pirates but they only have to push the puppets away, WAHAHAHA. Whoa, Spock throws the Pike-puppet at the pirate captain, ROFLCOPTA. If this was a 5 minute special for comic con, okay. 1 hour episode, no.
>>222693782It's called "Tomorrow's Enterprise"It's a flash forward to Kirk's Enterprise that they made because at the time season five wasn't greenlit, they made it to function as a stealth series finale
>>222693570You're probably thinking of the weird Batmobile armour from Batman (1989), they basically ripped it off.
>>222693809synopsis reads "A temporal crisis brings Pike's Enterprise face to face with the future Kirk will one day inherit."no dreams involved.also source up your schizo
>>222693646People can say that the specific execution was silly, but the concept was very scifi. An alien civilization that bases its culture on sciptures left behind by gods. Who Watches the Watchers was the more sensible take.
>>222693842Didn't they already do that with the Balance of Terror reference episode?
>>222693798>there are the oldschool trek fans who have to watch everything and they keep watchingOldschool fans are dying out and many of them dropped Star Trek ages ago. Millennial consumers are NuTrek's main demographic. They don't really care as long as they get new merch to collect. To them the idea of being a Star Trek fan is more important than actually getting good Star Trek to watch. The actual content is secondary to performing the "Trekkie" identity. It's what all fandoms and franchises turn into eventually. It's a mutated consumerist cult that stopped being about Star Trek a long time ago.
remember when people thought Enterprise was the low point of Star Trek? A case of not knowing how good we actually had it...
>>222693893I don't think this quite right. Anybody who actually likes Trek has more dignity than that.The demographic is normie millenials and younger who decide what they watch entirely on name recognition. And even then they arent watching it, it's on in the background while they scroll their phone.
>>222693918There's a reason people have been apologising to Rick Berman in recent years
>>222693263The Dr Who toaster is only accurate for “New Who”. The old series had a mix of normal people in funny clothes and foam rubber monsters.
>>222693847That reminds me that Star Trek Prodigy (which I had forgotten completely until just now) had an episode about a primitive civilization that worships Starfleet in much the same manner as IRL cargo cults. Anyway, yes the concept is a good one and it can be used for various tonal purposes.
>>222693942What's there to apologize about. He was heading the franchise during its heyday and ran it to ground because he lost touch for good. Choosing that 80s family sitcom opening song for the new bold iteration of the series was a telltale sign that he should go.
>>222693938>Anybody who actually likes Trek has more dignity than thatI believed that for a while. And then I watched the collective Trek fandom jizz itself over a memberberry Rick and Morty cartoon.There is no dignity in being a Star Trek fan. We're the same retarded gay consumers as everybody else.
>>222694007NTA but just adding that I can attest that no trekkies I know IRL like nutrek.
sure and it's a fine day to be arguin' the odds, begorrah!
>>222694007>>222694079Usually trek cons were havens for old trek since they shit on the jewjew films and STD but ever since lezzie dykes it took over 50% of them, like half of the cosplayers are some retarded cartoon thing My friend's brother in law talks about watching all the new shows
>>222694007>And then I watchedone guy spam. it was only ever just one guy.
>>222693798puppets are fun simple as
>>222693947The toaster was early NuWho. Later NuWho aliens are just a drag queen screaming about male privilege in front of a CGI backdrop.
>>222694129At a book store I had the cashier go "well even if you don't like the new shows you have to admit SNW and Picard season 3 were really good!" and I told him "nah" and he looked at me like I killed a baby or something
>>222694130and he does it to spite you specifically, right?
>Borg Queen pole dances for OldwayNow that's a finale.>>222693793Wish they'd played more with 29th century technology too.>>222693748That's the Janeway, baby.>>222693841Oh yeah that definitely makes sense. Not that I mind, the result is pretty cool.
>>222694189fake and gay
>>222694200it was just a job to him. hence why hes gone now.
>>222694189>>222694129At Trekfest in future Kirk birthplace Riverside, Iowa, Robbie Duncan McNeill and Garrett Wang both glazed LD and Mike McMahan and the crowd broke out into that godawful chant, meanwhile I'm squirming in my seat wishing I could disappear
>>222693373That world was explicitly low tech
>>222693362He looks like he's having the time of his life
>>222694225who? who? oh, those people who need money?
>>222694225Imagine willingly being in Iowa
>Voyager arrives in the Alpha Quadrant>everyone goes "we did it">episode endsYou've got to be fucking kidding me.
>>222694225>glazed LDCons just attract too many normies now and to be fair. The people who wrote LD have at least seen an episode of trek before.It sucks that that is where we are at. The rest of nutrek is so offensively detached from what trek is that LD is all there is to say even a single positive thing about
>>222694129>>222694225How is this even possible if it was the least-watched of all NuTreks (not counting Prodigy) and per TheWrap its viewership never cracked 5 digits? Its even getting mogged by its peers in the adult animation category.
>>222694302Want a season of shore leave, debriefings, counselling sessions and characters talking about applying to various positions?
I don't understand why they didn't make a muppet version of Ortegas.
>>222694302It's almost fascinating how Trek handed in almost nothing but absolutely awful series finales in that era but most of them are all but forgotten because they got worse with each one and the one they actually ended on was an all-timer bad finale, in all of television not just Trek
>>222694326people do things for money
>>222694302Star Trek sex with the Borg Queen
>>222694338IT WASN'T A TARKAELEAN HAWK,IT WAS NAOMI WILDMAN!!!
>>222694326I think casual fans are only just aware of it. I mean for a long time most forums (even here) were dominated by it.
>>222694338How about an ending where the cast and crew aren't practically rushing out the door the second the credits rollEven the show didn't want to be there anymore
>A noted critic of the writing and characterizations on the show, Beltran had several gripes about the final episode. He complained that the episode was written with a lack of care, too quickly wrapping up some well-established story arcs. Additionally, Beltran theorized that the episode was written out of frustration over Voyager's audience ratings, stating about the writers, "They took it out on us by saying, 'This show's no good. Let's get it over with as quickly as possible so we can fix it for the next one.'" Beltran also rhetorically asked about the installment, "This is what we're going out with?" and claimed the episode made him feel vindicated about his belief that the writers were "idiots," saying it was unfortunate that the fans were "going to have to sit through it."
>>222694500Most vindicated guy on the planet considering Chakotay instantly transforms into a good character on Prodigy when there are writers that actually give a shit
>>222694500https://akoocheemoya.com/
>>222694463The ending of Voyager was done without much respect by the studio, the story about Mulgrew finishing her last shot and the crew rushing in immediately after to unscrew the captains chair is heartbreaking to this day.Still, I like the ending. Better to end with a bang than with a whimper I say
>>222694561How long do you think he lasted before fucking holojaneway?
>thinking Prodigy has better writing than VoyagerI'm sorry you didn't get to make a nutrek thread but there's no need for such transparent lies
>>222694771he was specifically talking about Chakotay you pot stirring pos. Not everything has to be a contest for your approval.
>>222694771Comparing Voyager and Prodigy quality wise is nothing short of humiliating for Voyager
>BERMAN: Murray, I need you to define a complete aesthetic for the Cardassians, including anatomy, capital ship design and flag sigil. Can you do it, Murr?>MURRAY: *shrugs*
>>222694871you're correctBlink of an Eye, Latent Image, Living Witness, Meld, Timeless, Year of Hell... I can name more great episodes of Voyager than there are episodes of Prodigy total off the top of my headso yeah it's pretty disrespectful to Voyager to even compare that kiddie drek to it
>>222694771I was talking about Chakotay, but if you want to extend it out to the entire show that still applies, Prodigy wasn't written by a bunch of burnt out husks with absolutely nothing left in their creative tanks, who abandoned their core premises barely a season in to deliver a show that felt like production line of scripts fished out of dumpster behind the TNG office
>>222694878Every day is neck day
>>222694927Yes, it was a mistake for them to abandon the original premise but that's a decision from the top down. Blame Brannon Braga, Jeri Taylor, Rick Berman, and Michael Piller for that.The writers did a bang up job writing episodic Star Trek as they'd done on TNG and other shows and the writing of VOY, in terms of its episodic quality, is not far behind TNG.Both of these things can be true.Would the show have been better if it had been serialized and Voyager was shown to have running damage, etc? Absolutely. But it is still a very very good core Berman Trek show which makes it so high above Prodigy or any NuTrek slop that it's like comparing Michaelangelo's David to clay sculpture by a first grader.
>>222694927>they had nothing left in their creative tanks>he says this replying to a post which lists top tier Trek episodes in Voy as if they never happenedinteresting
>>222694949I've added neck harness work to the end of every workout and while it hasn't made me cardassian yet, it's been great for my posture
>>222694961I think Michael Piller did try to stick to the premise in the first two seasons. Lots of episodes where they have to search for supplies, fight off Kazon/Vidiian attacks, crew members are killed and Janeway is at odds with her officers, and so onOnce he leaves at the end of S2 and Jeri Taylor solos the show for a while, is truly when it becomes "diet TNG". Which necessitated the big shake-up in S4.
Voyager isn't bad because it abandoned its original premise. You've got it all wrong.It's that Voyager would've been the greatest Trek show of all time had it stuck to that premise. But even without it, it is still very good and very consistent, and probably has less "bad episodes" than TNG overall. VOY has a lot of episodes which are above average and the median quality level is very solid, particularly after S3.
>>222695117Your back is supposed to be round and your pecks are supposed to hang over your dick like a gorilla. Posture is for women to show off their tits and homosexuals with something up their class. People can’t push you when you’re already leaning into them in Gorilla mode. Go study at the body language of a bouncer at a nightclub you agro methhead manlet
>>222695177If you are hunched over all the time you never train triple extension, enjoy having tight hip flexors and weak glutes.
>>222695117My point is working out specific parts of your body is going to make you look like a fucking alien and in this case cause potential serious long term injury. We should exercise with our entire body. What do I know though. If we had to fight my plan would be to run in circles around you till you gassed out and then I would throw rocks at you or build a bamboo bazooka. You might not like it buts that’s what Star treks all about
>>222695286>My point is working out specific parts of your body is going to make you look like a fucking alienYes, ideally Cardassian, lrn2read or get fucked.Humor aside, the neck work is corrective in an era of phones and computers.
>>222694643Janeway clearly hated Carrie, otherwise she would have arrived before this ep.
Voyager's cast is terrible, and it might have been redeemed if they stuck with the original premise but only because that would mean characters would have to change along with their conditions, but even that wouldn't be a guarantee
>>222695365Voyagers cast is too bland. I wouldn't go as far to say terrible, but dull.
>>222695365>>222695405A lot of this is because they gutted the premise. Think of how dynamic those characters would've been had they retained their Maquis loyalties or if those events actually had long-term consequences. A lot of the "dullness" of the cast comes because, in some cases like Torres and Chakotay, 50% of their character has been killed from the start.
>>222693263Star Wars is now like Star Trek thanks to Yidsney.The naming's on point though.
>>222693352It's the best Nutrek showThat's the extent of my praise
>>222695430Why does TNG get more of a pass on this? Is Picard and Data just that good? The rest of the TNG cast has the same problems most of Voyagers cast has too.Is it just that the contained scifi stories of TNG are that much better?
>>222695477No, you're absolutely right. People do give TNG a pass but Geordi, Troi, and Crusher are incredibly boring as characters. Only Picard, Riker, Data, and Worf are interesting to be honest. You could also argue that Riker and Worf are bland or at least tropey.
>>222695430by the time they got home janeway was on the maquis side. said fuck the temporal prime directive and saved her crew
>Soap-opera episode>Isekai episodeWhich one are you more exited for?
>>222695613I exited long before either
Can't wait for more retarded gimmicks and making Spock be gay and stupid
>>222695613>Starfleet commandeers the Enterprise>Alien pursuit grows tarDoes Starfleet know they don't have to commandeer the ship? It's already theirs. Is this also the origin story for Armus?
>>222695678I bet it's April
>Tomorrow's Enterprise>it'll be Yesterday's Enterprise but in reverse.
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>>222695405I think what crosses it over to terrible for me is that there's a lot of wasted potential underneath that boringness>>222695430Again, while I'd like to agree, there's no real way to know if they wouldn't have just run out of steam anywayEven DS9 wobbled on occasion, especially towards the end>>222695477Picard and Data have pretty consistent throughlines and Data is just a fun character in general, but they tend to remember to balance them out with the rest of the crew as well, Beverly and Geordi have the benefit of being attached to those two in interesting ways (less so with Beverly, as they later just give up on that stuff)Worf gets the benefit of having Klingons being expanded on and made more interesting so that tends to get explored through him, and they even manage to make Riker's boringness almost an arc in itself by questioning his ambition from time to timeCompare that to Voyager and it's really only the Doctor who gets away with being up there with Data despite some (the show's) inconsistency, he's a fun character with a fun actor and they give him a lot of episodes because he deserves itJaneway being the captain of a lost voyage is an arc that occasionally gets alluded to but they barely do anything with, Kim has nothing, Belanna and Chakotay have their cultures but anything that comes from those ends up being worse than everything that came before itAnd that could be forgiven if their relationships with each other and the crew were somewhat interesting like Data's and Geordi's or Riker with Picard and Troi and Worf, where they have moments to elevate each other or even just one of them, but most of the relationships in Voyager are as boring and crap as the characters areSeven and the Doctor can be pretty good together, even Neelix can look good when he's next to Tuvok, but then you have Tom and Kim, or Tom and Belanna, or Janeway and Chakotay, which should be the easiest win but just ends up being worthless when it's not romancebait
>>222695613Jesus fucking Christ
>>222695690>in reverse>You don't understand, we have to go back and make sure this war starts because this peaceful timeline shouldn't exist!That would be funny
>>222693606i like my star trek caucasoid and maybe a little mongoloid but not necessarily negroid
>>222695365The best thing about the Voyager cast is that they're not the Enterprise cast
>>222695613These are fucking Futurama plots. Not Star Trek.
>>222695613The soap opera episode is going to be pure wank for shippersthey'll probably make spock and kirk gay together in the episode
how did DS9 get it so right and blow every other show out of the water with their characters?
>>222695805I remember a lot of very silly Star Trek episodes, for better and worse. I'd argue that SNWs The Elysian Kingdom is a better VOY Once Upon A Time for example.
>>222695613>Implying I've watched anything nutrekCouldn't be me
>>222693105Even worse than the writing of nu-trek is unironically the aesthetic. The sets, the costumes and makeup, the composition of the shot, it is all just so horribly wrong.I guarantee if you took some random script of nutrek and had it done either in TOS, TNG, DS9 style, with the actors from old trek, it would at least be semi tolerable even if the writing was still garbage.
>>222695865not implying anything, talking to those who do.
>>222695846They didn't. DS9 sucks compared to Voyager. Imagine having an episode with nothing but Vic Fontaine singing. Niners would call that "good" lmao
>>222695876The cheap fucking klingon masks always get meAlso I fucking hate the lighting, who the fuck would benefit from everything being so fucking dark
>>222695876you spend a lot of time of your day saying the same things, reddit spacer.
>>222695853>I'd argue that SNWs The Elysian Kingdom is a better VOY Once Upon A Time for example.That's where you're wrong thoughbeit.
>>222695804It is certainly impressive that they managed to get a cast together that was even more boring than Voyager's, trueMakes fucking Neelix look like high art>>222695846Motivations, frictions with their circumstances and each other, decent backstories
>>222695893I dont think I ever said this before.
>>222695853The silly episodes were once or twice per 26 episode season. It feels like the writers were dying to write for a parody show like Community, but were assigned to a serious show instead.
>>222695959>a parody show like CommunityWhich featured a few musical episodes and an episode where the main cast was muppets
>>222695678>>222695685An Admiral played by Joe Morton assumes command of the Enterprise in that episode
>>222695893It’s cool how 4chan lets you pretend it’s only one person saying the things you don’t like. this lets you live in a post-truth reality.
>>222696013Whole thread is fallacies thrown at each other and the void in a toxic frenzy my dude. I'm just laughing my arse off at the pathologies on display, you being one of them.
I liked the musical episode.
>warp emergencyI guess it's Speed in SPACE.
>>222693130no
>>222695959The silly episodes in REAL trek had plausible explanations. Nutrek is just shit "what if" 5 minute brainstorm ideas stretched out to entire episodes, badly written and badly executed by talentless fuckwits. Shan't be watching.
>>222696097>The silly episodes in REAL trek had plausible explanationsThe transporter split Kirk and that unicorn dog into their good and evil halves of equal mass because reasons.
>>222696097Tuvix makes no sense at all, who cares. Trek has various writers and themed episodes all the way from TOS to now.
>>222696097Allamarine, count to four!
>>222693118You lost tranny.
>>222694326because the type of people who willingly go to star trek conventions in the year 2026 are disgusting
>>222696031Just keep telling yourself that. If you stop it’s harder to maintain the delusion.
>>222696143>Pulls hot pan off eye and sets it immediately on to counter Disgusting. Star Fleet can train a better chef than this, surely.
>>222696235They have future materials.
>>222695882Ds9 has way more good characters than Voyager. It isn't even closeYou can like Voyager more if you want to, you don't need to make shit up though
>>222696291>It was a space counterAh. Of course. Now it all makes sense.Meanwhile it is [current year] and we're still adding plastic to pans so they're a bit easier to clear for 4-5 uses.
>>222696143Tuvix isn't that silly.They fucking murder him dude
>>222696147Move Along Kino is highly regarded by all real niggas
>>222696437didn't call it silly, said the transporter accident makes no sense in established lore. But it's a good episode, one of the best even, so we let it slide. Threshold is a shit episode, so we laugh about Warp 10 turning you into Salamanders.
Move Along Home was not the writers going "let's do this retarded idea and make it really wacky and cringe." they had to scale down their original idea vastly due to various production hurdles.
Guys, I'm in Q Continuum, no idea how I got here. Need instructions what to do.
>>222696555Move along home.
>>222696555checked. have you tried being the dog?
>>222694903>great episodes of Voyager
The ratios of goofball/gimmick/comedy episodes are just way off.In TNG it's maybe 4 episodes out of 26 that are of that type. In DS9, you add Quark so you maybe expand that to 6 out of 26. Still an extremely low % compared to SNW which is like 7 out of 10 episodes are gimmick episodes.You have to earn your light-hearted episodes by creating the contrast. Serious Star Trek needs to be your foundation, the point of comparison that makes your goofier/gimmick episodes work in the first place.It's just like chemistry or cooking. They're adding way too much sugar and spoiling the whole dish.
>>222696627I named 6.Really, Blink of an Eye is up there with the best TOS episodes. It's great Trek whether you like it or not.
>>222696505And the DS9 producers and writers decided not to do their original 30th anniversary episode which would've been a sequel to A Piece of the Action in which the planet's inhabitants start cosplaying as Starfleet officers and arguing about canon, because they felt it would be insulting to the fans.
>>222696649Every episode of Voyager is trash and you are trash for thinking Temu TNG is anything other than trash. Eat shit.
>>222696655think about it>1996>we don't want to insult the fans, they're the ones who support us>2026>fuck yeah insult the fans right to their faces, they'll eat this shit up regardless
>>222696639SNW season 4 is the gimmick season. Not that big of a deal, I personally like the episodes and think they're well made.Different seasons of different series have always had different vibes, SNW didn't start out this way but evolved in this direction as these episodes were the most talked about and memorable of the previous ones when they were rarer.Get over yourself, final six-episode season is rumored to be more traditional again or just watch some classic trek or even prevvious seasons of SNW if the puppet episode gets your jimmies this rustled.
>>222696699You're becoming agitated.
Most of classic trek was made with a limited budget. They had to pick which scenes from script they could film, allocate the effects budget, think about what could be filmed on location and then edit it to fit 45 minutes. All while the next ep had to cranked out next week. In nutrek they are scraping the bottom of the barrel to come up with scenes to fill the screentime after planning the ep for a year, fill the rest with unnecessary effects shots. Hmm, can we waste more budget with an unnecessary gimmick that necissitates completely new costumes or a puppeteer squad, and it still is shit.
>>222696753Maybe he'll stroke out. Keep it up, lads.
>>222696655Trials and Tribblelations is great too. What a bullet dodge
>>222696699They're getting so bad that I'm just skipping big parts of them, and I even managed to get through STD without doing this
>>222696699Only SNW season 1 is majority Trek. Every other season has a bunch of gimmick or comedy episodes or episodes where people talk like they're in an episode of Buffy.You can't say it's S4 only. What about that Patton Oswald Vulcan episode? Fucking retarded. Or the musical episode? Or the episode where they parody TOS and shit on Shatner and Roddenberry?Fuck off, man. SNW is anti-Trek garbage just like the rest.
>>222696659Truly an in-depth analysis. Explain to me why Blink of an Eye is a bad episode of Star Trek point by point, otherwise I'm just going to think you've never seen it.
>>222696699I think that's my issue with the show really. I don't dislike it but I just preferred what it was in seasons 1-2 rather than how they've since made playing with gimmicks most of it's entire identity. Season 3 was fairly weak overall but the two episodes I liked from it the most weren't gimmick episodes. This season has two non-gimmick episodes left and no guarantee that they'll be winners.
>>222697021Variations on Brigadoon with time fuckery are tired. Meridian was better. The Orville one was better. Simple as. Get fucked.
>>222695335Humor
>>222693267Why does the captain have a frosted bull-dyke haircut?
Webm-Anon, if you are here: It's great that you are here. Love your contribution to /trek/
>>222697072It's not like Brigadoon at all, or Meridian, or the episode of The Orville you're talking about.Nice attempted AI analysis though, kek. Point-by-point or you didn't watch it, donkeylips.
>>222693387Everything he's made is shit. But he's been employed for nearly 20 years. How does that happen?
>>222697154Also the Korean astronaut guy shouldnt have had his access codes work. Too much subjective time should have passed. Anyway, Voyager is trash for midwits, enjoy your shiny objects retard.
You can't spell this character's name without looking it up.
are the star trek writers quiet quitting? What's going on? I've never seen so much contempt for the source material. These people have never read any science fiction in their lives.
>>222697209Oh my god! A potential semantic flaw which does not in any way impact what the story is about! This really riles up my autism! You're right, this episode is dogshit trash and I am retarded like you. Now, compare it to fucking Brigadoon again, grok. But more correct this time, less errors.
>>222697270Yeah this episode is literally "it was all a dream" without even a single attempted science fiction element involved.Just lazy really. They could've made it sci-fi related so easily.
>>222697270The show is cancelled and Secret Hideout's trek gig is ending, so they have no stakes. These guys and the 47 executive producers per show work for Kurtzman's company. They'll sure get another contract to ruin another franchise, nobody cares about your actual track record as a writer or producer.
>>222697274Fucking with time skips is basically Brigadoon from the perspective of the Brigadoonians >you can't name some random gook characters name!!!Didn't like him in lost didn't like him in voyager. I don't devote brain space to bad acting. which is all of voyager. DS9 was peak acting.
What RLM video do they talk about Gary Seven in? I just watched that TOS episode so I wanted to find it again.
>>222697333Yeah the reason these writers are doing an anthology genre-hopping season is really simple if you think about itThey're advertising their ability to write other types of media, basically as a talent reel for themselves.>look, I can write noir!>I can write horror movie scripts! Hire me please!>Check out my comedy chops! I wrote this heckin' wholesome chungus muppet 'sode!It's pretty disgusting surface level Hollywood bullshit and anyone who likes it is quite literally subhuman
>>222697098His hair keeps getting more ridiculous each year
>>222697371DS9 does have a better core of actors, no doubt about it. But VOY has Picardo and Jeri Ryan both doing a lot of heavy lifting and Mulgrew is very consistent and is honestly a better actor than Avery Brooks as much as I love his autism.I rate DS9 above VOY but VOY is not as far behind as people think.There is a reason it is the most streamed Trek show, or at least was back when we still had those metrics (when Trek was on Netflix), yes even above TNG.
>>222694364resistance is futile ;-*
Started Voyager... didn't this guy (Harry Kim) get killed in S7 of DS9 by the guy with the transporter gun?
>>222697603It's a running gag, he gets killed every episode.
>>222697603He gets killed for real actually.
>>222697833more than once
Encounter a savage race of Mad Max aliens living on a desert planet with barely any technology or water.Suddenly by the end of episode they appear in space in their own star ships and start attacking Voyager, they even have a giant galaxy class destroyer.da fuq?
>the white rhino went extinct about two centuries agoDamn, that was optimistic
>>222697391Presumably one of the Picard S2 Re:views
>>222697986
>>222698057the Kazon are the worst thing about Voyager. Second place is the Borg Queen.
>>222698057>>222698240The writers were trying to make the Kazon like LA gangs of the 80s and 90s, but they did it badly.
>arrive as refugee, looking for 'muh promised land'>yeah, no where nearby is suitable, so here's a lush planet for you that is uninhabited and will be more than enough for your 3m pop to thrive and become a regional space-power within the next few decades, as well as being under Starfleet's Protection>'erm, actually we want to settle in Bajor, because I said so :)' >yeah no, Bajor is full and cannot deal with having a population of 3 million arriving, plus we've just started recovering from a coup as well as the previous occupation, we need to sort our shit out and cannot deal with your shit if things go south, and this is pretty much unanimous between the Bajoran people and Starfleet.>'FUCK YOU KIRA YOU BITCH, YOU'RE NOT MY FRIEND ANYMORE, HOW DARE YOU NOT LET US CAUSE POTENTIAL INTER-ETHNIC CONFLICT ON YOUR PLANET, I GUESS '''BAJOR''' WILL HAVE TO DO WITHOUT OUR FARMING NOW THEN WON'T IT YOU FUCKING CUNT'>son dies because he's a retardno seriously, what the actual fuck was her problem?
>>222698400How many secret Changelings where among them?
>>222698467really activates your almonds doesn't it
One of the best episodes I've ever glimpsed and will glimpse, not just in the hereafter but in the soon after too.
>>222698400This episode, the VOY episode where Seven accuses the guy of rape mistakenly and gets him killed, and the maybe space minorities commit more crimes episode of VOY are the holy trinity of chud sodes.
>>222698400Its amazing how even the liberal writers of the 90s understood the dangers of unchecked immigration. If they made this episode today it would be the start of a Bajoran Nazi arc.
>>222698570they had 0 reason to demand to be settled on Bajor when a WHOLE PLANET was available for them to colonise.don't really care if it makes me /pol/ but they just come across as arrogant and retarded, and I didn't really get why Kira or anyone else would feel bad for them once they started acting like brats and demanded 'muh bajor'If the writers were trying to makes us sympathise then it didn't really work very well imo
>>222698658>If the writers were trying to makes us sympathise then it didn't really work very well imoThey clearly weren't. They even made the aliens look gross and ugly, and they are intentionally very different from bajorans and clearly wouldn't gel with that society if forced to share a planet
>>222698705guess I'm presooming that the writers were the same as modern writers are now when it comes to these sorts of topics and that they just implemented it badly, guess notI liked the episode tbhdesu, but it was bizzare not knowing how to interpret what the writers were going for (apart from the obvious 'this won't work you retards' angle from the Bajoran per.)
The DS9 one with the evil cunt who forces everyone to live like hippies and she remains smug even when she gets hauled away for her crimes
Captain Captain KirkyI just popped a perky
>>222698400I love the irony of this episode in that the Bajorans themselves are a disgusting and reprehensible "people" and are faced with an even more disgusting and reprehensible "people". It's like Syrians trying to cross into Poland.
>>222698768I think the general message of the episode is"be compassionate, but not at your own expense". DS9 was all about the no perfect solution angle too. Sometimes you gotta make hard choices. Bajornas only even considered it because they are also religious nuts and understand the retardation
>>222698658>why Kira or anyone else would feel bad for themThat was just an act. In reality Kira was pic related.
It was a puppet hazard
>>222698888yeah I'll need to give the episode another watch once I've gone through the series again, not that I'm expecting to pick up on much more nuance in the acting, but maybe a more overall rounded look considering what you mentioned on overall DS9 themes
>>222698774I know in Star Trek these types of people are supposed to not exist anymore but it just goes to show the obvious that anyone who would sign up for that "be in charge of colonizing this dirt in the middle of nowhere" shit is probably in it to become a cult leader
>>222693118star trek sex with wesley
>>222693105previous thread???
What's next week's gimmick in Strange New Worlds?
>>222699136
>>222699120
>>222699179lmao
>>222699156see >>222695613>Speed in space>Soap opera in space>Moby Dick in space>Fairy Tales in space>Yesterday's Enterprise with a TWEEST
>>222699311Neat, thanks
>someone praising Meridian in this threadaight im out
>>222693362>>222693584
>>222699345yeah that guy was clearly just being a faggotIt's okay to hate a show but at least have some criticisms about it that are grounded in reality
Is Kurtzmans contract actually up now or not?
>>222697036I wouldn't say it's the entire identity, but again, if the gimmick episodes are the ones best received and most talked about you'll get more of those in later seasons. Studios don't give a fuck about outrage, they harvest that for marketing, they look at the best ratings and positive critiques when deciding which way to steer the tone between seasons.
>>222699578I think there was supposed to be an announcement this month, but it hasn't come out yet to my knowledge.
>>222699660thank
Im enjoying strange new worlds.Just feels like an original star trek remake. Its less camp if anything.
>old = campkill yourself normie faggot
>>222693118shrancesca capaldi strikes again
>>222693359And the complete raping of the classic TOS aesthetic into shitty glossy lensflareslop. And the retcons. And the Xenomorph Gorn. And the fucking Time Crystals.Nah mate, it was just shite.
>>222700042With less problematic leads.
>>222697469>There is a reason it is the most streamed Trek show, or at least was back when we still had those metrics (when Trek was on Netflix), yes even above TNG.Sure, after Season 3 it becomes normieslop that splits its time between shitting on Roddenberry's philosophy and glorifying war, because its original run ratings were so shit compared to TNG and Voyager that the Trek franchise made its first pivot towards trying to please non-Trek fans.And the reason it does well on streaming is just that: it's normietrek. I've said it before and I'll say it again - DS9 is excellent sci-fi television, but it's largely terrible Star Trek.
Why are pronouns still up for debate by the time of Discovery?TOS dealt with contemporary issues much better. Why is there a Russian on the bridge? Never explained, people just assumed global peace came at some point. Uhura isn't concerned by racist language. She's doesn't know what inner-species racism even is.Meanwhile STD plays the pronoun game ad nauseam.
>>222700449I was talking about Voyager, you idiot. Voyager was the most streamed Trek show on Netflix.
>>222700463The old propaganda was aimed at high-minded people to get them on board with the vision. The new propaganda is meant to bludgeon the masses over the head with.
>>222698552Chakotay and Defenderpu brightly greeting Nemesis fucking shits with hot lead.
How has your /trek/ journey been thus far?
>>222698658>If the writers were trying to makes us sympathise then it didn't really work very well imoThe whole point of that episode was to expose Bajoran hypocrisy. The Warty aliens were just like the Bajorans. A peaceful, spiritual race of farmers who were following a prophecy. They wouldn't accept another planet because they firmly believed settling on Bajor fulfilled their prophecy.But at the end of the day the "enlightened" Bajorans who had just suffered 50 years of persecution under the Cardassian occupation said "fuck off, not our problem". And they did it for a very simple, basic human need, a desire to have a place of their own. They fought for 50 years to get their world back, and they weren't about to hand part of it over to a different type of invader. Its an episode where the pretense of progressive Bajoran culture ran into reality, and reality won.Its a good episode and the sort of thing Nu Trek would never do.
>>222700463>Why is there a Russian on the bridge?Ziggers infiltrate everywhere, it is their perfidious nature.
>>222693105Mike Stoklasa ruined Star Trek by shilling JJ Abrams and demanding everything be gay.
>>222700648Rich knows more about star trek anyway.
>>222699466
Is sisco religious?
>>222700604fiery and hazardous
>>222700747He celebrates kwanza
>>222700604forbidden us all irrevocably
>>222693530Endgame actually pissed me off when it aired, because it seemed like between the new armor and the new torpedoes they were making the Federation too OP for anything afterward to be interesting.
>>222700862Go on.
>>222700908he said everything that needed to be said friend
The Barclay Files
>>222700604I made a lot of OC and learned absolutely nothing.
>>222700563This could actually be true.
>>222700978I've made memes here too but nowadays it doesn't feel worth it.
Spock is a stronger man than me. I would have fucked the shit out of that horny Romulan commander in that one season 3 episode. Good thing the Vulcan autism is so strong in him.
If I showed my grandmother Farcry, she'd think it's real, but of course it's just a game. I always wondered if computer whizzkids of the future could tell the flaws of a holodeck. Like ackshually the butterfly was just there to conceal wind simulator nozzle in the in the """tree"""
>>222701091just caught a spider, explains the stroke like typos kek
Pelia puppet is just peak
>>222700978>>222701021
Thoughts on Star Trek enterprise(the show)?>>222693203>>222693615The fuck am I looking at? Did Spock take LSD?
>>222701294
>>222700042If I like Star Trek enterprise and Star Trek the undiscovered country would I like strange new worlds?
>>222701313I am a afraid to ask what is in science officer Pepe’s face
>>222701379Chocolate milk from the chocolate ladies at the chocolate bar
>>222700747technicawwy
>>222701459GudBut that still doesn't answer the question on whether Spock was on lsd or not and if so who gave Spock lsd?
Star Trek hits rock bottom https://youtu.be/Z9giwo2O7SI
>>222701625buz an ad
>>222701686Why is the Cookie Monster so offended by his own kind? I’m scared anon
>>222701534Even if I could tell you, who was pulling the strings?
>>222701534Drugs can make you feel good
>>222701756Jim Henson
>>222701290Ben now you've tackled meYour last betrayal so plain to see
>>222693105I don't get the appeal of Star Trek. The only thing I like from it is the Bar Owner with the big ears
>>222701686Not my vidEat another dick
>>222701884Come to QuarksQuarks is funCome to QuarksDon't walk, run!
>>222701812>Star Trek 1988: The medical industrial complex creates opiate addicts to become lifelong patients and customers>Star Trek 2026: Duuuuuude drugs are like COLORFUL. They make you act craaazy and party all night!
>>222701910buy an ad
>>222701175they should have avoided the dream copout and kept pelia as a Muppet for the rest of the series run
>It's a "Data gets a gf" episode>She constantly gives mixed signalsThere was just no winning here.
>enjoyed TOS and TNG>couldn't get into DS9, Voyager or Enterpriseis there anybody else like this?
>>222702055>data's gf gives mixed signalsOkay so just do a fast Fourier transform to normalize it do I have to do all the thinking for you guys
Which one would be the better rapist?
>>222702481Xena would have better bars but seven tighter flow
>>222701319There’s only one way to find out
>>222703723Well at least I got a buddy who is chill with me crashing at his house and has a gf that pays for paramount plus. Gonna couch rot there and watch it when I get free time.
>>222693559I wondered if Una still had her normal human bite force as a puppet or if it was safe to have her do sexual things.
>>222693809Who plays McCoy?
>>222702069Yes. I couldn’t get into voyager until I was like 22. I tried deep space nine first but I couldn’t fi it I tried so hard I started the whole series over like eight times just because people would tell me I wasn’t invested because I hadn’t clockwork oranged my eyeballs through every fucking apparently vital price of either homosexual or smarmy exposition. Everyone has a bad fucking attitude in that show. They all piss me off. Especially that fucking cracker they have in charge. I’ve never finished voyager because I fall asleep. I watch it all the time though. Enterprise hurts my senses even more than DSN but I understand the adults at that time were going through the only traumatic events of their entire lived experience at the time so I just don’t talk about that one. Enterprise basically ruined Vulcans. That bitch isn’t autistic at all she’s faking it just like her tits. What kind of Vulcans would get fake tits anyway. Scromiting brb
"Relax! It's just a pizza! Have a sense of gumor."
>>222700293Never realized there were two competing fan shows on youtube. Phase 2 and New Voyages or something, but both Kirks look like Elvis impersonators.
Fuck kazon
>>222703974Realistically I’ve seen them all out of order in hotel rooms on h&i
>>222702069That's a standard casual Boomer Trek fan profile. But if you were born after 1960, I'd be worried.
>>222703974Have a sense of humor anon. That’s all you ever had to do
I will leave you to your devices. I hoped something interesting might happen but that was silly. Not that you aren’t interesting people. Keep eachother out of trouble
>>222705023
>>222704637>I will leave you to your devices.As long as those devices are Android. iPhone users get the rope
