Khaleesi editionPrevious: >>223094663
>*teaches your kids some Dornish*
>>223103043GOT isn't canonHOTD isn't canonAKOTSK isn't canonThe Play isn't canon>Only the books are canon.https://grrm.livejournal.com/352453.html?thread=18585285#t18585285
>>223103184didn't grrm say the play is canon recently?
What if Tommen actually was Robert’s son?
>>223103258no, he just confirm that it was written by others than him.
What are you guys still posting about?
>>223103361targaryen girls
>>223103043>Previous: >>223094663 >only 65 repliesYou are loosing all you posters, /got/hotd/dunk
>>223103388/tv/ overall seems to be slowing down a lot
>>223103043Why bloodraven hate the targaryen ?
>>223103388>>223103425Let it die.
THEY HAVE MY WIFE'S SON!!!!!!
>>223103374this
thread’s dead your grace
A bear there was, a bear, a bear!All black and brown, and covered with hair.The bear! The bear!Oh come they said, oh come to the fair!The fair? Said he, but I'm a bear!All black and brown, and covered with hair!And down the road from here to there.From here! To there!Three boys, a goat and a dancing bear!They danced and spun, all the way to the fair!The fair! The fair!Oh, sweet she was, and pure and fair!The maid with honey in her hair!Her hair! Her hair!The maid with honey in her hair!The bear smelled the scent on the summer air.The bear! The bear!All black and brown and covered with hair!He smelled the scent on the summer air!He sniffed and roared and smelled it there!Honey on the summer air!Oh, I'm a maid, and I'm pure and fair!I'll never dance with a hairy bear!A bear! A bear!I'll never dance with a hairy bear!The bear, the bear!Lifted her high into the air!The bear! The bear!I called for a knight, but you're a bear!A bear, a bear!All black and brown and covered with hairShe kicked and wailed, the maid so fair,But he licked the honey from her hair.Her hair! Her hair!He licked the honey from her hair!Then she sighed and squealed and kicked the air!My bear! She sang. My bear so fair!And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair
>>223103043https://youtu.be/LIXFn1ZVbI0I never stopped loving you Khaleesi
>>223103503Because you touch yourself at night
Daemon's daughter worshipping Hightower cock and balls
"And who are you?" The proud Lord said"That I must bow so low"Only a cat of a different coatThat's all the truth I knowIn a coat of gold or a coat of redA lion still has clawsMine are long and sharp, my lordAs long and sharp as yoursAnd so he spoke, and so he spokeThat Lord of CastamereBut now the rains weep o'er his hallAnd not a soul to hear"And who are you?" The proud Lord said"That I must bow so low"Only a cat of a different coatThat's all the truth I knowAnd so he spoke, and so he spokeThat Lord of CastamereBut now the rains weep o'er his hallAnd not a soul to hearAnd so he spoke, and so he spokeThat Lord of CastamereBut now the rains weep o'er his hallAnd not a soul to hearand so he spoke(That Lord of Castamere) Lord of Castamere(But now the rains) weep o'er his hall(And not a soul to hear)And not a soul to hear
Swordbearer
>>223104228>wow guys daemon blackfyre is so dangerous and he is so charming and deadly with sword and stuff >literally dies in the first fucking battle
House CHADtower of CHADtown
>>223104239Fucking sorcery
Pure baby making sex with my imported Lyseni Courtesan wife
>>223104206tywin is a faggothe is lucky to have charles dance performing him, but he is a complete retard whose biggest strength is posturing with his authority. he was an insecure nigger who never did anything of note, and he himself wasnt as smart as he thought he was. the one time he had to fight an equal (heh) enemy, he ended up getting destroyed by robb 6-0 so he has to resort to faggotry, with even dumber allies who couldn't hold north's territory (big surprise when you betray the king no one likes you)he had a hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby in tyrion vs cersei and he still chose to not aid tyrion because hes a RETARDi fucking HATE LANNISTERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
>>223103258
>>223104189God I love bimbos
All of this could have been avoided if Daemon Blackfyre had won
>>223104228Arrowswallower
King Baelor I was raped by his ex-sister wife Daena Targaryen Velaryon in the sweltering summer of 170AC
>>223103043wtf they finally made dany hotgrok draw her shitting her intestines out
>>223104332I agree.Tywin is kinda an idiot.>His house's economy is based on natural resources, namely gold. Bro spawned on easy mode and thinks he's an economic genius.>Bad father, ruined his own dynasty by raising idiots and scum> Shit military leader. Gets outplayed by a teenager and has to win through betrayal.
>>223104661>Shit military leader. Gets outplayed by a teenagerThat's Jaime actually.
>>223104598And he deserved that
…
>>223104178based
>>223103053There's no such thing.
>>223104332>>223104661He pushed the riverlands shit in and Robb never faced him in battle, quit larping.
>>223104661>>223104751Jamie and Tywin have never won land battles against a peer opponent
>>223103361this >>223103374
>>223104332>>223104661>he’s so dumb, he had to resort to CUNNING PLOTS to win!
>>223105191Too good to be true.
>>223105844Brutal
>>223105835Most of their complaints are with Jaime. They don't know it yet merely. Tywin is undefeated in battle except CHADmure.
>>223104598Daeron not marrying Daena is way too on the nose, George did it on purpose so he could end Aegon III's line easily, one of the clearest examples of his lazy ass writing.
She Bore The Fucking Sword.
>>223105681See>>223106140
>>223106150She can swallow my sword if you know what I mean, sers.
The TROUT of The TRIDENT.The Lord of Riverrun.The Lord Paramount of the Trident The King Of the Seven Kingdoms candidate.The Husband to Roslin Frey, which whom together he has a son who shall inherit both Riverrun and The Twins.The only man to ever beat Tywin Lannister in battle.The mentally STRONG who outlasted his captors.ENTER CHADMURE TULLY.
>>223106150In my CK2 Osgrey game something like that happened. She later was overthrown by bastard of another Targaryen bastard.
>Those first Braavosi came from every land beneath the sun, it is said, but as centuries passed, they bred with one another regardless of race or creed or language to form a new mongrel people.uhh baelish bros?
>>223103184Wtf I read all the books and there's no cannons
>>223106448This post has been fact-checked by Real Andal Patriots: TRUE
>>223106374Fucking fuck. Play again and make the Blackfyre win
r8 my House Sigil.Bonus points if you know what it means
>>223106691Good luck with that
>>223106773Where is Myrish Swamp?
>>223103043Holy fuck I haven't seen this pic since like 2014
I can’t believe you absolute madmen are still going
>>223107095What is dead may never die.
>>223107110I would fight in a Trial of Seven for her hand
aaagghh
>>223107344clearly done by the Iron Bank because he was about to expose them
The Queen who Bore The Sword and murdered every single little red dragon Targshit
>>223107568Don't you know kinslayers are cursed by gods?
>>223103752God imagine if baela and rhaena looked like this instead of mid negresses
>>223103043egg is icsh
>>223107938We'll be able to do it soon with ai don't worry. Fix Corlys as well and get rid of grandma Rhaenys' white hair.
In one of her interviews Hess said that Rhaenyra is Hillary, which shows her intellectual levelActually she is more similar to Trump, as I understood from the book>born to privelege>narcissistic>doesn't care about others and views them as servants for her whims>gullible, at the same time>does dumb shitThanks for reading my shitpost
>>223103043if you know you know
>>223108543
I think it is time for me to add this general to my filter list until dunk comes back on. it's been fucking awful and you should all be ashamed of yourselves.LET IT DIE
>>223108648Yet you're always here you annoying little faggot.
>>223104239It wasn't the first battle at all.
>>223105835Robb's victories are basically all by taking the enemy by surprise. He has never won land battles against a peer opponent.
>>223103043>pov when you try to enter the convention where GRRM is at
Today I'll remind them
>>223109083
>>223108997>surprise isn't a factor in land battles against a peer opponentshut the fuck up retard
>>223109083Step aside, Daltyboy, or you'll rue it.
>>223105835Pissing on one of the few universal conventions of Westerosi culture isn't a cunning plot.It's the sort of short sighted african warlordism Tywin has made his brand.
>>223108997I mean that’s true, none of his opponents were his peers because they were too stupid.Robb was an unbeaten battlefield prodigy.
>>223105835Breaking guest right means literally no one will ever trust the Lannisters again. If things get bad enough it leads to guest right dying out or everyone just agreeing to break it when the Lannisters corner you.
>>223109384Tarly beat him
>>223109306That's the point, retard. Surprise is obviously a factor. So is the loyalty of your allies. Robb mishandled Roose, mishandled the Freys, mishandled the Karstarks. And he paid for it.
>>223109418Wait you were talking about Robb not Robbie. Whoopsi daisy
>>223108997Very true. It doesn't count if the enemy commander uses his low northron cunning to achieve superiority at his chosen schwerpunkt.A REAL peer battle consist of a pitched affair carried out on an empty field the combatants have agreed on and cleared out beforehand. And if one sides tries to cheat by bringing in reinforcements or flanking the enemy they get disqualified.
Robb could have taken the Iron Throne for himself if he had the political acumen to match his battlefield genius. He minmaxed too much, or perhaps not enough. He was too vain to take the hit to his looks so he could put some much needed points in diplomacy and intrigue.
>>223103043What's her pig policy
>>223109527>>223109527The wise prince takes points from his hair stat and puts them in machete warfare - the great Volantene political theorist Nincompoopoo Machiavelli
>>223109452Almost meme’d at you for that goof
>>223109596Wise words.
>>223109281how can valyroid women even compete
>>223109527No he fucking couldn't
>>223107989luke is icsh
Littlefinger had a rough life
>>223110229Bro, that's Aerys II's double granddaughter.
>>223109281DORNED
>>223109083When I played the CK3 mod that guy became the next Kingsguard prodigy.
>>223107110>>223107194STANNISSTANNISSTANNIS
>>223110445valyroid cope
>>223110513>muh safe edgy fantasy racismGet a life.
>>223109306Dude was saved by Elizabeth kicking the bucket
uh oh targ melty
>>223110592Cerserys
>>223103752>Grey eyes Disgusting halfbreed.
>>223111311She's half Velaryon.
>>223104332>t. tyrion just before chadven sets him right
I haven't paid attention to ASOIAF since GoT ended. What's the current status of the IP? I know there was the Dunk show that people seemed to like and that House of Dragon show has one or two seasons.. I think.. but no clue if people like that one.
>>223106817I'd say "For Truth, Justice and the American way" but the star doesn't have 6 points.
>>223108365All of those apply to Hill Dawg.
Threadly reminder that Grey Worm is smooth down there.
>>223111407Dunk is good, HotD is bad. Watch Dunk if you feel like it, it's like 3 hours of total runtime.
>>223110386season 1 bran is icsh
I need a monke gf
>>223111793>>223110386>>223107989Kill yourself faggot pedophile
>>223105835His plan wasn't any cunning
>>223107344Jace was the one who took a quarrel to the throat though
>>223104201why are the faces blacked out?
>>223105783>tattoo
>>223111793monke is iclh
>>223112017based
>>223103361AI anon, most what you have if you are here.
>>223103258He approved it and went to the opening night, It's over. Wrap it up.
>>223105191u-umm blackbros i thought rhae rhae was the good guy??
The Westerlands are the best kingdom
>>223106150why is hair over one eye so fucking hot bros?
>>223110229gay
sex with daeron
>>223104896Caraxes got fucked up and I laughed.
>>223113536Caraxes never loses a fight
>>223106287He did his duty, an honorable man. Even Walder Frey spared his life and gave him his hottest daughter.
>>223106287>The only man to ever beat Tywin Lannister in battle.respectable but tywin was also an overrated idiot that out out-maneuvered by a teenager so many times that he had to have said teen murdered
>>223113441Jeet seethe.
What the fuck was Baelish thinking here?
>>223110513She was so hot man....
>>223114839guy is handsome. who is he?
I work out for themI diet for themI nofap for them
Reminder Emilia Clarke is mentally and physically retarded
>>223115593wasn't she just hurt making a movie?
>>223115593So just like Dany, casting really did a good gob.
>>223115497This guy posts blackfyre threads.
DON'T DRINK THE WILDFIRE AERION!!!!
>>223107989>>223110386>>223111793>>223112718Poser bitch ass losers. Little Samwise Gamgee Jr. is who you'd be jerking off to if you were real pedophiles.
>>223115593That makes a woman infinitely more attractive. The best possible option is one that's born with at least normal intelligence but then sustains a brain injury. So you can still breed her for normal kids but don't have to deal with her yapping and wanting things. My friend has a daughter who is borderline retarded because the mother was eating tons of oxies during the pregnancy. She'll make a wonderful wife to someone one day.
>>223104239he was the warrior himself o algo doe
>>223106144clearly implied homo
>>223105191Shit armor. One poke with a spear and she dead.
the north is the best kingdom
>>223116186George explicitly said Daeron wasn't a faggot.
im only here for aryan cunny
>pounds your Khaleesi's butt
>>223116377if by cunny you mean pp, sure i believe you
>>223116662Yea wtf... hasn't Night Kang heard of armor? What a bitch.
>>223116832We wus kangz we wus kangz yeah we wuz mothafuckin Night Kangz
>>223115685We only like Yronwoods.
Aemond kissed Alys.
>>223116259ForresrerBros.....
i became a bookfag and now the shows suck
>>223117700Checked.
>>223117700Same, but 10 years ago.
>>223117700Will only read the books when it finishes
>>223117876Hmmm... Keep waiting
I think Tyrion being a Targaryen would be a good twist
poppa bear?
>>223113516He is so cute.
>>223113516>>223119729I LOVE YOU DAERON
hodor
What if Aerion Targaryen woke up as Viserys III at the beginning of GOT?
>>223116259In terms of getting absolutely murked repeatedly and sacked more than any other kingdom in the main books. Literally Winterfell is like hot potato
>>223113912True. Tywin is so stupid… he was outmaneuvered and beaten by a teenager he never actually met on the battlefield so much, that he had to murder him and annihilate his extended family and sack his capital and conquer his kingdom using his henchmen that he prepared to use as lightning rods. What a fraud man.
>>223121321>Tyrion stop shooting me with arrows. I'm trying to poop here!Makes me laugh every time
>>223121321>*farts moribundly*
hodor hodor hodor hodor hodor
>>223121321Wait, so tyrion is a murderer? How can he come back to westeros?
>>223122173>Wait, so tyrion is a murderer? How can he come back to westeros?murderer of his dad, so it's even worse it's kinslaying, and he also lost his trial by combat with oberyn dying, everyone want him dead.in the show he received UNLIMITED PLOT ARMOR because dumb & dumber are retarded.btw if daenerys execute him she would instantly be the most loved person in westeros by a huge margin.
>>223110229*rhoynoid
>>223122448Imagine if Quentyn survives and Tyrion gets executed the moment he steps foot in Mereen
>>223114136That was the first character-annihilating stupidity D&D have committed and got a pass for. We should've seen the signs long before season 5.
>>2231061443rd Aegon's kids had their chance. It's Aegon II progeny GRRM went absolutely buck wild retard on.
>>223106144He was meant to take an exotic bride from some far off lost civilization that he conquered in Essos. But he would still fail to produce an heir.
Reminder: this guy won the game of thrones
....semoc eH
>>223122585Had their chance? Half of them were locked up in a tower for a decade and were them promptly disappeared by the fat man.
Lann the Clever is in my walls
>>223123067cersei speedrunning her aerys II mad king arc is hilarious
>>223111457It's Varys' riddle
>>223121321Tywin was on the toilet because he was constipated from being poisoned by Oberyn Martell he was gonna die anyway
>You detained her>You deported her>You DENATURALIZED HER CHILDRENkek
>>223120795you're thinking the riverlands loleven the westerlands had more castles fall than the north
>>223120848Explains why Tywin is dead, his army is gone, his heirs are fighting, Tywin missed all of Robb's extended family (more Lannisters than Starks have died) and canonically the Starks win lmao
>>223122736!on ,on ,oN
>>223121321>sharts himself to deathMarvellous George.
>>223121321>you... shitposted me>*Tyrion loads his next captcha*
>>223121321*pfffffffffrtttttt**plop*
CODD
>>223106144They're supposed to be a match made in heaven and likely George had that in mind when he created them but then he got lazy when he actually had to outline Fire&Blood and didn't want to think too much about how to end their line or Elio and Linda just convinced him, probably a mix of both.>Daena was much loved, both for her beauty and courage. Daena was wild almost from birth. A Targaryen to the bone, she was strong, beautiful, and wilful and like the rest of her siblings had Valyrian looks. Her long silver-gold hair was thick and curly, an untamed mane that framed her heart-shaped face and her sparkling purple eyes. To top it off, she had a fearless "I'll dare anything" smile.>Daena was lithe and athletic. She was an expert horsewoman and also a hunter and a fine archer. She was also practiced at riding at rings, though she was never allowed to ride in a tourney, despite her best efforts.>She worshiped her father and idolized her brother Daeron. She used a Dornish short recurved bow brought back by Daeron from his conquest of Dorne.
>>223124129Are you comparing the Crag to Winterfell? >>223124147>The only way Starks can win against a Lannister is if another Lannister does the deedDamning
>>223112232Aesthetics
>>223125359>The Riverlands out of nowhere Keep your extinct mouth shut Robb. The Tullys? Male line continued. The Sharts? Not so much.
Quentyn hitting on Daenerys in ADWD
>>223103361OC shit
>>223103361I dig this AI style
>>223125611TWOW will subvert the subversions, with Jon being Ned's son.
>>223125753Why did Rinda Ali put Bosnia and the union states in there?
>>223125823grrm said he won't change his story just because fandom has figured out some mysteries already
>>223117700The good parts of the books are even better than the good parts of the show (like everything north of the wall). But the bad parts of the books are worse than the bad parts of the show. Like everything in Essos and Brienne aimlessly wandering around Westeros for half a book was absolute shit. I'd rather hear about bad pussies and fingers in the bum than read another Dany chapter.
>>223125943To change the story he'd have to actually write it. Gurm is going to die and someone less fat and lazy will finish the books.
>>223126070I just skipped every Daenerys chapter in my reread. Simple as.
>>223126090every chapter in ADWD is skippable except davos, jon, Jaime, and Tyrion
>>223126090Most of her Essos stuff is so damm boring
>>223126070>>223126090>>223126167>>223126612spoiler: you are suppose to goon while reading her chapters.
>>223126854I will try thathttps://litter.catbox.moe/zwfnlhlpanoh9d9j.mp4
>>223124870>Her long silver-gold hair was thick and curly, an untamed mane that framed her heart-shaped face and her sparkling purple eyes. To top it off, she had a fearless "I'll dare anything" smileWhat is this tumblr slop.
>>223126070>the bad parts of the books are worse than the bad parts of the showAin't no way Jon's storyline in ACOK is worse than the clusterfuck that was his season 2 arc. Same for most of the characters and plots from season 2 on. >Brienne aimlessly wandering around Westeros for half a bookAs opposed to her standing sadly under Winterfell's walls for half a season? At least she met some interesting people in the book and got into kino fights.
>>223127494>What is this tumblr slop.George is a tumblrina, you didn't know that?https://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Three_Maidens_in_the_Tower
>>223125793>Sepia'dchatgpt sucks donky dick
>>223127609Nvm about Jon's arc, you said bad parts of the book. Anyhow, the worst parts of AFFC and ADWD are merely boring. The show is actively insulting to intelligence whenever it tries it's own thing (like those oh-so-great scenes with Arya and Tywin, Robb falling in love with that nurse, Theon's torture porn in season 3, shirtless Ramsay etc) and starting from season 5 it's unbearable rancid shit. The show actually got better when it no longer had book material to adapt i.e ruin and embraced being that memey dragons & tits show.
>>223127041make her say nuncle instead of daddy and it's perfect
>>223127732I can't because thats not ai. Its REAL!
>>223127041Monke when the won't film her sex scenes
>>223103361Probably some sister with a full body cast and an itchy cunt
>>223127777Checked
>ywn have your own ser Criston to push around and slap whenever you wantWhy live?
>>7777checked
>>223127777>>223129728Vile temptress leading noble chasity-sworn knights astray. Do NOT trust that slut.
>>223126090this but Arya chapters after AGOT
>>223103043Punzie bros?
So after convincing her son to completely ruin and burn the realm her beloved husband and sister spent so much time and effort carefully putting together Visenya Targaryen gets to die peacefully in her sleep at an old age wow history sure is fair
>>223130292Why didn't Aegon try harder to get a child with her?
>>223130334Aegon didn't like tomboys quite as much
>>223130092>Skipping kino Harrenhal, Beric and the Hound chaptersAre you autistic?
>>223130292>and burn the realm her beloved husband and sister>sisterRhaenys was a dumb cunt who dragged them into a useless Dornish war. Visenya was the one running shit.
Stark or Lannister?
How can Valyroid women even compete?
>>223131020Lannister for sure has the better characters so I go with them, starks are kinda lame with the exception of Ned meanwhile every Lannister in the lore and in the series is pure kino
>>223131109Scion of Great Empire of the Dawn vs descendant of inbred lizard shaggers.
>>223130653Watch your fucking mouth when you talk about Rhaenys
>>223131546>t. AegonQuit being a simp and go spend time with Maegor.
>>223131576Maegor's perfectly fine playing by himself with all his swords
>>223130292Visenya did a lot more to establish the Targaryen monarchy than her idiot sister who got noscoped by the Dornish. As for Maegor, he was unironically one of the best Targaryen kings and did nothing wrong besides killing his nephew (Daemon did the same but no one cares).
>>223132007Only faggots kill themselves
>>223131546Rhaenys got torture raped by ullers
>>223109230kekwhy are actors such fags
>>223132200He was obviously assassinated. Even if his army was smaller and Jaehaerys had more dragons, Maegor had the largest dragon, was the better rider, and already had experience in dragon vs dragon combat from destroying Aegon the Uncrowned with no difficulty. His odds were far from desperate.
>>223109281Ellaria's such a good aunt.
>>223132346Maegor lost his nerve and confidence when his mommy died and he slit his wrists, scared and whimpering like a little faggot bitch
>>223132564Also balerion got the ick and abandoned him and yes, he did shit himself
>>223131109Rhaenyra is ugly as shit, both versions
>>223132564Cope. Half his reign and suppression of the faith was after Visenya's death.
>>223132724join the 40% like your faggot tranny idol did
>>223132779You first, sis.
>>223130292>Form fitting chainmailH-holy...
Convince me HotD S3 is really as bad as Youtube says.I ain't seeing it.
>>223126090>>223130092Add Sansa chapters to the pile bros
>>223103053>>223105573
>>223125359The Crag plus a bunch of other castles, including one belonging to Tywin's cousins. Plus gold mines.>every battle between a Stark and a Lannister is a Stark victory>no Lannister has EVER won a battle against a Starkkek
>>223132007>Daemon did the same but no one caresWe do. Fuck Daemon and fat man's obsession with him.
>>223133525Robb has never won a land battle against peer enemy, cope.
>>223133579That's true, no Lannister was his peer. That's why they lost every battle against him. lol
>>223133289Well you gotta first see it to believe it
BENEATH THE GOLD
>>223133599He was avoiding Tywin like plague lmao, the only Lannisters he fought are retards like Jaime and Stafford.
>>223133599got 'em hahahah
>>223133976>Tywinlol Tywin never won a land battle against a peer opponent, plus Tywin avoided Robb despite outnumbering him. Well, until Robb took some gold mines and Tywin ran west like the Jew he is and lost to EDMURE TULLY of all fucking people kekIf we apply the transitive property: Jaime beat Edmure, Robb beat Jaime, Edmure beat Tywin, then Robb > Tywin. It explains why Tywin hid at Harrenhal lmao>>223133982He walked right into it lol
My only gripe with these two based retards is that they don't consider themselves Hightowers.
>>223134135What do you mean? They're Targaryen dragonriders, so it's no wonder they lean into that side of their family. When have they ever denied their Hightower blood?
>>223134150They should've leaned more into identifying as Hightowers, one of Westeros' houses finally managing to take away the Targshits' dragon trump card and using it against them is way more fun and would've made Otto's plot even more interesting.
>>223134229Maybe but their legitimacy was based on their Targ name and being dragonriders.
How different would arms and armour be between the different kingdoms for the average foot men-at-arms?
>>223134229>Otto's plotThe notion that Otto even has anything resembling a plot is blackcel nonsense. The Velaryons were on the verge of surpassing the Targaryens as a dragonrider house and nobody bats an eye when Corlys tries to force a royal marriage. Otto was a fair and competent Hand and his dastardly plot was... telling his daughter to spend time around Viserys in the hope that he would marry her because he took a liking to her. Unwin Peake he is not.
>>223134480good points. i think people really overthink things.
>>223134460Very good for the Valekind of shit for everyone else
>>223134261Their true legitimacy is having a fuck huge lizard that can burn down your castle, doesn't matter which last name they prefer.And honestly their legitimacy being questioned even harder cause of the Hightower association would've made Cregan/Tully/Blackwoods' decision on keeping their dead fathers' oaths much better understood anyways cause they clearly wouldn't have wanted the Hightowers to gain even more political power over them.
MY BOY, PLEASE
>>223126070Dany chapters are only worth the 1 readArya same thingCercei chapters are only fun because she can't tell she's getting played by everyone around her
>>223134480Well yeah, that's why I prefer Otto to really want to take to the throne with a contrived hightower/master/septon plot instead of just being a boring good hand.
>>223134460For the richer southern kingdoms (the Reach and the Westerlands), probably plate for dismounted men-at-arms.For the poorer southern kingdoms (Vale, Riverlands, Crownlands, Stormlands), probably some plate, brigandines and maybe mail hauberks. For Dorne, probably armor similar to the Saracens or something.Poor kingdoms like the north and iron islands seem to still rely on chainmail.
>>223134507Imagine if the Knights of the Vale looked like the Winged Hussars.
>>223134135In terms of writing this would demolish the "Targ civil war" angle. It's not a good idea out-universe.
oh we're calling the North "poor" now
>>223134533Gwayne...
>>223134903Only relative to the other kingdoms (except the iron islands)A historian did estimates of the Great House's annual incomes and put them at:>Stark: 700,000 gold dragons>Lannister: 3.5 to 4.1 million dragons >Arryn: 2-odd million>Tully: 1 million dragons>Greyjoy: 450,000 dragons a year in “legitimate income”>Tyrell: around 7.8 million dragons (Tyrell revenues are probably less liquid than those of House Lannister, with much and more being held “in kind” as grain)>Baratheon: 750,000 dragons>Martell: around 1 million
>>223135017I still can't get over Ormund's death. He was so close to getting Targshits out of Westeros.
>>223135164His death was funny lol
>>223135154>Tyrell: around 7.8 million dragonsThese snakes in the grass are a problem
>>223135164The Dance did basically kill the dragons and in the long term the Targs did become extinct while the Hightowers are just fine.
>>223134086>lol Tywin never won a land battle against a peer opponentThat phrase is fucking meaningless.>Tywin avoided Robb despite outnumbering himWhen. WHEN.>Well, until Robb took some gold mines and Tywin ran west like the Jew he isHe threatened his home and Tywin had to respond, yes. Half of ACOK and ASOS is dedicated to the very simple idea that the lord who can't defend his home seat is a failed lord. You've read those books right?>and lost to EDMURE TULLY of all fucking people kekHe never lost. He got wind of Stannis advancing on the capital and had to leave the fishfuckers alone to go deal with a real threat. Westerners lost what, 1500 men on those fords?>If we apply the transitive property: Jaime beat Edmure, Robb beat Jaime, Edmure beat Tywin, then Robb > Tywin. It explains why Tywin hid at Harrenhal lmaoOh. It's retarded.
>>223134086>He walked right into it lolSame way Robb walked into betraying his vows and getting his entire army ass-raped at the wedding? Lmao.
>>223135350>That phrase is fucking meaningless.the irony>Whensat at Harrenhal for months after Robb raped Jaime's host lol>He threatened his home and Tywin had to respondOnce again showing how a teen constantly dictated the campaign>He never lostquality cope lol>Ohkek no argument, I see. >>223135414>muh vowslol irrelevant since the Freys were going to backstab anyway. Says more that Tywin's armies lost so many battles he had to conspire to murder a teen at a wedding because Tywin couldn't win a land battle against a peer opponent kek
>George says that Jamie would curbstomp Gregor CleganeI get that ASOIAF is actually fantasy and has a lot of fantastical elements and George can't into irl medieval arms and armor or even numbers but it's still a story presented realistically and realistically the Mountain would turn Jamie into a smear
>>223134664Instead they look like wc3 characters
>>223135154Shouldn’t Tully be higher? The Riverlands are fruitful in peacetime
>>223135445>the ironyYou're talking about this >>223133579? I wrote it because it was quicker than writing walls of text. And yes, i couldn't pass up the opportunity to troll a bit.>sat at Harrenhal for months after Robb raped Jaime's host lolRoose forces were still intact and moving against Starks would leave King's Landing exposed. Read Tyrion I, he lays out everything perfectly. And by that same token, Robb avoided Tywin as well.>Once again showing how a teen constantly dictated the campaignWell yes, he has a lighter more mobile force and no one could've fucking predicted that nonsense trick Robb pulled with Greywind and muh secret goat passage.>quality cope lolGive me the passage that contradicts it. Was Tywin captured? Maybe Gregor was killed and the bigger part of Tywin's strength was annihilated? No?>kek no argument, I seeYou literally use the retarded powerscaler logic. Why would i waste time arguing with that shit?>lol irrelevant since the Freys were going to backstab anyway.Keep telling yourself that. Nothing our poor doomed Robb did ever mattered and the world was out to get him. Uh-huh.>Says more that Tywin's armies lost so many battles he had to conspire to murder a teen at a wedding Nigger, Tywin allied with Tyrells and their fuckhuge army, Starks were retreating to the North and posed no threat to him whatsoever. Killing Robb was no more than a clean-up job, the retard would've gotten himself killed sooner or later anyway.>because Tywin couldn't win a land battle against a peer opponent kekNeither did Robb apparently because he'd rather kill some sheepherders and Stafford's green levies in the West than face Tywin in battle.
>>223135768House Tully is a fascinating case in how failed governance can waste the advantages of nature. Given that the Riverlands are “rich and fertile…the waters of the Trident make the lands ripe for settlement, farming, and conquest, whilst the river’s three branches stimulate trade and travel during peacetime,” the region’s 4 million inhabitants should produce a GDI of around 20 million dragons a year (taking the high average of peasant income), producing tax revenue of around 2 million dragons a year.However, whether it’s due to underdevelopment or the weak grasp of the Tullys on their subjects, their actual army size compared to their potential army size suggests that they only have an income of 1 million dragons a year. Obviously in comparison to ordinary smallfolk, this is a staggering sum, but in comparison to their neighbors to the west and to the east, you can see why the Riverlands have struggled to maintain their independence.
>>223135855>admits to trolling>"WAAAAHHHH THAT PHRASE IS MEANINGLESS"kek what an odd reaction
>>223135350>He never lost.Read the books, anon.https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Battle_of_the_Fords
>>223135445>lol irrelevant since the Freys were going to backstab anyway.That's true, GRRM confirmed that Walder Frey was plotting to betray Robb before word of Jeyne ever even reached the Twins.This is verified in Arya's chapter with Roose in A Clash of Kings.Seems some folks didn't read the books or So Spake Martin.
>>223135899No arguments?
>>223135951>admit to trolling>want a debate nowlol? you have to make a serious point first.
>>223135924Tywin got fucked lmao
Starks win canonically.
>>223136006>Tywin dies>Jaime dies>Cersei dies>Joffrey dies>Tommen dies>Myrcella dies>Kevan dies>Lancel dies>Stafford dieswhat lannicucks DON'T die?
>>223135943>Even if Riverrun marshals all its strength and the Young Wolf wins back from the west, how can we hope to match the numbers Lord Tywin can send against us? When he comes, he will come with far more power than he commanded on the Green Fork. Highgarden has joined itself to Joffrey's cause, I remind you!">"I had not forgotten.">"I have been Lord Tywin's captive once," said Ser Hosteen, a husky man with a square face who was said to be the strongest of the Freys. "I have no wish to enjoy Lannister hospitality again.">Ser Harys Haigh, who was a Frey on his mother's side, nodded vigorously. "If Lord Tywin could defeat a seasoned man like Stannis Baratheon, what chance will our boy king have against him?" He looked round to his brothers and cousins for support, and several of them muttered agreement.>"Someone must have the courage to say it," Ser Hosteen said. "The war is lost. King Robb must be made to see that.">Roose Bolton studied him with pale eyes. "His Grace has defeated the Lannisters every time he has faced them in battle.">"He has lost the north," insisted Hosteen Frey. "He has lost Winterfell! His brothers are dead . . .">"Had Stannis won, all might have been different," Ronel Rivers said wistfully. He was one of Lord Walder's bastards.>"Stannis lost," Ser Hosteen said bluntly. "Wishing it were otherwise will not make it so. King Robb must make his peace with the Lannisters. He must put off his crown and bend the knee, little as he may like it."Freys "treason" before Robb broke his vows:>someone tell this retard that he can't defeat the world
>>223136025Gerion might still be alive.
>>223135943>>223136108interesting, so the deal Catelyn made was always pointless since Walder was going to backstab them the first chance he got
>>223134664GOT is a gritty realistic fantasy. You might as well ask for hobbits and wizards n sheeit.
>>223136132Yeah, GRRM confirmed it.They were already scheming before word of Jeyne ever reached the Twins.
>>223135768They should be lower if anything, Tullys are a joke "great" house that can field a smaller army than multiple of their vassals. And it's not like their vassals are the Hightowers or Redwynes, the Tullys are getting mogged by the likes of the Freys and the retard duo of Bracken and Blackwood.
>>223135974Sure, there you go >>223135350>lol Tywin never won a land battle against a peer opponent ̶T̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶p̶h̶r̶a̶s̶e̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶f̶u̶c̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶m̶e̶a̶n̶i̶n̶g̶l̶e̶s̶s̶.̶Neither did anyone. Happy now? Now answer this:>sat at Harrenhal for months after Robb raped Jaime's host lolRoose forces were still intact and moving against Starks would leave King's Landing exposed. Read Tyrion I, he lays out everything perfectly. And by that same token, Robb avoided Tywin as well.>Once again showing how a teen constantly dictated the campaignWell yes, he has a lighter more mobile force and no one could've fucking predicted that nonsense trick Robb pulled with Greywind and muh secret goat passage.>quality cope lolGive me the passage that contradicts it. Was Tywin captured? Maybe Gregor was killed and the bigger part of Tywin's strength was annihilated? No?>kek no argument, I seeYou literally use the retarded powerscaler logic. Why would i waste time arguing with that shit?>lol irrelevant since the Freys were going to backstab anyway.Keep telling yourself that. Nothing our poor doomed Robb did ever mattered and the world was out to get him. Uh-huh.>Says more that Tywin's armies lost so many battles he had to conspire to murder a teen at a weddingNigger, Tywin allied with Tyrells and their fuckhuge army, Starks were retreating to the North and posed no threat to him whatsoever. Killing Robb was no more than a clean-up job, the retard would've gotten himself killed sooner or later anyway.>because Tywin couldn't win a land battle against a peer opponent kekNeither did Robb apparently because he'd rather kill some sheepherders and Stafford's green levies in the West than face Tywin in battle.
>>223136132>>223136153What scheming? Read >>223136108, they just wanted an out. They would've never agreed to Tywin's offer if they weren't sufficiently angry.
>>223136208Not according to GRRM, but I guess you know more than the author lol.
>>223136184>not one serious point, just trolling and shitpostinglolHere, I'll make it easy for you: make one (1) serious point instead of copypasting troll nonsense. I'm waiting.
The only northern house I like is manderly
>>223136108And here are Freys after Robb betrayed them:>The wind was gusting, flames swirling off the torches mounted atop the walls beside the rows of heads. On her way to the godswood, she passed the Wailing Tower where once she had lived in fear of Weese. The Freys had taken it for their own since Harrenhal's fall. She could hear angry voices coming from a window, many men talking and arguing all at once. Elmar was sitting on the steps outside, alone.>"What's wrong?" Arya asked him when she saw the tears shining on his cheeks.>"My princess," he sobbed. "We've been dishonored, Aenys says. There was a bird from the Twins. My lord father says I'll need to marry someone else, or be a septon.">Something else was wrong as well. On the day her brother returned, a few hours after their argument, she had heard angry voices from the yard below. When she climbed to the roof to see, there were knots of men gathered across the castle beside the main gate. Horses were being led from the stables, saddled and bridled, and there was shouting, though Catelyn was too far away to make out the words. One of Robb's white banners lay on the ground, and one of the knights turned his horse and trampled over the direwolf as he spurred toward the gate. Several others did the same. Those are men who fought with Edmure on the fords, she thought. What could have made them so angry?>Ser Aenys spit at her feet. "That's for your oaths. We trusted the word of Robb Stark, and he repaid our faith with betrayal.">She reddened. "In anger I forgot myself, but I would never have killed him. If he dies the Lannisters will put my lady's daughters to the sword.">Ser Aenys was unmoved. "Why should that trouble us?"
>>223136333damn they really are faithlesscouldn't even honour their oaths to riverrun
>>223136347They are. They also have the right to be angry and Robb is a retard who spurned vital allies for some western wench and her "honor". Those things aren't mutually exclusive.
>>223136347>couldn't even honour their oaths to riverrunTrue, they were stabbing the Tullys in the backs in the beginning of the war and pretty much never stopped. Blackmailing Catelyn for a deal just proves it. They have no honour, and it's why they all die.
>>223136108What a bunch of treacherous niggers, even Roose the Ruse looks honorable next to them.
>>223136437>>223136465Are any of the Freys honorable or are they all subhuman?
>>223136437>Tully retard starts a war>Lannisters start burning the riverlands>Tully retards are totally inept overlords who can't defend their bannermen's territoryFishfucks don't deserve loyalty, they can't fulfill the most basic of a liege lord's duties.
>>223136248I'll make it even easier for you:1. Roose forces were still intact and moving against Starks would leave King's Landing exposed.2. Robb never moved against Tywin either.3. Robb's forces were mainly cavalry and he had the advantage of warging.4. Tywin's forces were intact after the battle of the Fords. Neither Tywin nor Gregor were captured.5. You can't expect me to seriously engage with>If we apply the transitive property: Jaime beat Edmure, Robb beat Jaime, Edmure beat Tywin, then Robb > Tywin. It explains why Tywin hid at Harrenhal lmao6. Robb's choices mattered otherwise his entire story is meaningless. 7. Robb never once fought Tywin directly. He raided the defenseless Westerlands and took Stafford's green forces by ambush.There, all of my points presented without any irony or humor. Is that not what you wanted?
>>223136507>are they all subhumanyesloyalty is essential to humanity, and the Freys always seek to backstab everyone
>>223136437Not their fault Tully's are weaklings who can't even command their vassals loyalty.
>>223136132>>223136153>>223136347>>223136437>>223136465>>223136507>>223136559You done circlejerking?
>>223136437>Blackmailing Catelyn for a dealgood point, they owed Hoster Tully fealty and instead fucked him over
>>223136208That's part of the scheming
>>223136606lmao are you really seething this hard because /got/ doesn't like the frey of all houses?
>>223136608He denied a bunch of norfern niggers a pass. Catelyn was in no position to represent house Tully after what she did.
>>223136624He's just ignoring GRRM flat-out saying the Freys were going to betray Robb after the Blackwater with or without his marriage to Jeyne Westerling.But he did admit to being a troll earlier, so he probably gets a giggle out of being a contrarian lol.
>>223136606>You done circlejerking?Not really
>>223136638No, because they're just beating the dead horse and engaging in performative outrage. No one cares about honor in this fucking place.
>>223136679NOOOOO, WALDER WAS JUSTIFIED!THE STARKS, THEY DISHONORED HIM!
>>223136666>But he did admit to being a troll earlier, so he probably gets a giggle out of being a contrarian lol.You admitted to that earlier than me when you posted this >>223134086 powerscaling fucking nonsense. So, you're gonna answer >>223136543 or not?
>>223136685>No one cares about honor in this fucking placeCole? Is that you?
>>223136685Tru, the same Tully honor larpers will say the river men refusing Cole’s honorable duel is cool
>>223136728>admit to being a troll>so humiliated by your admission that you change tactics to seething at powerscalinghahahaha
Walder Frey's going to survive Winds
>>223136739>Feys were with that hostit was probably their idea to refuse Cole
>>223136755I accept your concession.
>>223136713>Double-cross a notoriously fickle and resentful old man at the time when your enemies look all-powerful and your home is being burned>NOOOOOO HOW COULD YOU BETRAY US AIEEEEEEEE
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>>223136779Powerscaling really broke your mind lolBut my point stands. You can't prove it wrong.
>>223136851What point?
