Was the hate for Skyler valid?
>>223183919A relationship touchstone holding the protagonist back is expected to be in a crime flick, but she's not what the audience is tuning in for.
>fucks Ted
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>>223183919I'd say no, because just about every single character in that show is a shitty person. She doesn't stand out as particularly worse than everyone else, she just gets a lot of screentime
She’s framed as a nag and burden on Walter’s soul as early as episode 1. You are intended to dislike Skyler.
It is justified and the creators counted on it from their target audience.
>>223183919Yes
Yeah loved seeing Skylar and Marie argue about her shoplifting. Truly essential to the overall plot.
>>223184537You want to talk essential? For me, it's Marie going to open houses just to lie to realtors and steal trinkets.
>>223184537It was actually essential to showcase Skyler's attitude towards illegal activity. You have managed to miss foreshadowing so blatant that it's punching you in the face
>>223184577BRAVO VINCE
>>223184588it showed more about Hank's attitude towards illegal activity.
>>223184588Nigga I didn't like watching it. If I ever rewatch I'm skipping that shit. I guess I won't fully understand how Skylar feels about crime, ruins the whole story right.
>>223183919Ok and? I love being misogynistic
>>223183919yes, she's a complete fun sponge and can't even do better than a handy on walt's birthday
>>223183919She's unlikeable. Imagine if there was an actual likeable wife to Walter that you feel for
>>223183919>tranime profile picture with pronouns in nameOpinion immediately discarded
>>223183919Yes.
>>223183919i have tried to rewatch breaking bad from her side of things and give her every benefit of the doubt but all that did was further highlight how much of a selfish shortsighted cunt she is throughout the series.the only time she actually feels like supporting walt is when he indicates his complete willingness to defer to her decisions and even then she fucks up a really stable arrangement by saying "we're not laundering money fast enough" and throwing a wrench into all of it
>>223184588yeah like we didn't get that in spades when she confronts jesse over what she thinks is a bit of weed. really needed the hamfisted irrelevant reminder seasons later just so marie's actress got more screen time.
>>223183919The slice-of-life family shit just speedhumps everything. Wow, Marie shoplifted and Walter Jr smoked a doobie? Who gives a fuck?
>>223184737>Why didn't she support her psycho drug dealing murderer terrorist husband?
>>223184685>Flynn no where to be seen
>>223184787Probably got crushed doing back squats without a spotter.
I don't agree with hating fictional characters, it feels a bit cringe to me, but I do think Skyler was meant to be hated at first, all the sympathetic stuff comes after season 3. By that point it was too late to change people's mind.
>>223184765if you read all the words in my post from beginning to end you'd see that I in fact brought up a time in the show when she did support her psycho drug dealing murderer terrorist husband and only did so because it made her feel important and in charge.she only liked it when she was important and in charge... hmmm, she only liked doing it when it made her feel important and in charge, now doesn't that sound like something said at another time in the series?maybe, just MAYBE, skyler's cunty bullshit was intended all along and she isn't a misunderstood abused wife or whatever. She is showcasing the exact motivations walt does and they collide off of each other every time because they're both selfish twats hiding behind the "muh family" motivation.It's almost as if the crowd that shrieks about "media literacy" and "emotional intelligence" is turning an actual blind eye to the facts because they'd rather pretend a fictional woman is innocent.christ i am so sick of actual retards
>>223184787>Walt Jr. is stoically and stonefacedly vomiting in the bathroom, ripped and shirtless, determined to hold his liquor next time
I don't even remember all of the shit she did other than fucking ted, but walt really put her in a shitty situation.
>>223184824>a bloo bloo i feel sad when people might not like someone who actually doesn't exist but i'm also going to play both sides because i don't want anyone in this thread to argue with meactually sickening how pathetic this post is. just refrain next time. or lie.
>>223183919She has a lot of opportunities early on to break from Walter completely and get the kids out of that situation. When she actually does do that though she half-asses it and thinks she can get a clean break without ratting him out to Hank. There's really just no scenario where she can justify not exposing him to save the kids. I get she's supposed to truly love Walt or whatever but her indecisiveness while still trying to keep everything together is what makes her annoying
>>223184685>Lalu Salamanca>Joining a cook out with Gus the chicken man>Not threatening to gut him with the bbq pitchforkGay and retarded
>>223184880It's not about hurting the fictional character's feelings, it just feels like falling for "trolling" if you get mad at something that's written to get you mad.
>>223184878>starts off by spending her husband's birthday auctioning off shit he paid full price for and cheering when she gets 60% of market value>smoked during pregnancy and created a cripple>smoked again during pregnancy despite the results of last time staring her in the face every breakfast>absolutely stands in walt's way anytime he shows any agency beyond "go to work and eat at home">completely supports other people doing shit that embarasses or harms walt>as soon as walt gives her a bit of leadership in the whole drug operation she starts taking over entirely and like >>223184737 said, she insists they aren't laundering enough money and fucks it all up, funny considering how often walt is accused of trying to get more,more,more>saddles up to an old BOSS and bends over backwards for him because her need to be saddled up to him has created problems for walt and like a typical woman she thinks causing a problem and bandaging it is just as productive and virtuous as solving an existing problem>scars her kid by making a mock suicide attempt in the most attention-seeking and reputation-damaging way she could manage without physically hurting anyone else because she wants someone else to take care of the problem but she doesn't want to go to jail if the police were to find out everything>is genetically related to marie>instantly plays victim anytime one of her shitty decisions results in a poor outcome>tries to be 'reasonable' when walt is in the middle of a life-or-death situation but acts like a total cunt anytime walt is in a situation where he tries to be reasonable>believes the dumbest fucking shit walt says on the fly but then goes all nancy drew over the most minor curiosities and concernsi could go on but i'm weary
>>223184968you forgot about her reaction to walt getting some pot for his cancer (for all she knew)
>>223184948>If you are told "this woman wasn't written to be frustrating and traitorous" and you disagree by using examples, you've been trolledI don't think you have the mental capacity to lie so how about you just never post again
>>223184968LOL I forgot all of this shit
>>223184997it's been mentioned more than once ITT so I figured I'd skip it. same with actually fucking ted along with financially coddling him.
>>223184968>is genetically related to marie
>Walter White is 50 years old at the start of Breaking Bad and 52 years old when he dies.>Skyler White is 38 years old at the start of Breaking Bad and turns 39 during the first season.Yikes.
>>223184685Poor little Jesse and his asshole
>>223184232This. You genuinely lack media literacy if you can’t see that the whole point of Skyler’s character in the pilot was to be yet another burden in the colossal shitpile that is Walt’s life
>>223184968the kicker that most people never take into account is that the bulk of the show takes place over a year and a half. most of the awful fucked up shit she does is weeks or months after finding out the reason her husband of 20 years has been acting weird for the last few months is because he was diagnosed with terminal cancer and is trying to come to terms with the fact that he is dying.
>>223185132yeah sometimes i wonder if everyone who defends her saw the show when it was airing, so they don't get how immediate and harried everything is meant to be. That week-long break between episodes let them digest and forget her bullshit.
>>223183919Shes not perfect but comparing to all the other spoders in that show she is kinda like the virgin Mary
>>223185095media literacy and emotional intelligence means never holding a woman accountable, not even a fictional one. the highest echelons of media literacy can easily explain why men are responsible for the chaotic events in a movie about a world where men don't exist at all
I genuinely despise Skyler. GynoZOG automaton. Walter White did nothing wrong.
>>223184758>just so marie's actress got more screen time.Why not? Marie is a total babe. Are you a faggot?
>>223185213walt did plenty wrong but almost none of it would have gone so poorly if he had been a single father to Walt Jr
>>223185236betsy brandt could be hot in almost any other reality but the way she carries herself is insanely masculine and I cannot unsee it
>>223185132Are you implying Skyler loves Walt and is sad that he will die? Lol
>>223185286no, quite the opposite, retard.The assertion is that she's extra super mega cunty because all this retarded selfish behaviour is happening while her husband is dealing with life-altering news. As far as she knows, her husband is losing his mind over death's swift approach and the financial ramifications of a family losing it's breadwinner. So she chooses to be a mega controlling bitchfuck of a broad, demanding specific sensible explanations for every single out of the ordinary thing her husband does but also revelling in the attention she gets from being wife to a dying mantl;dr learn some fucking reading comprehension
>>223183919>himejoshe/her>fireemblemthis is a yuri tranny btw
>>223185439we've done just fine attacking the assertion without resorting to attacking the messenger, thanks kindly. The fact that this person is so terribly wrong proves they are a tranny, not the other way around.
>>223184824fictional characters are not real so if anything hating them is ok its real people that shouldn't be hated lol society got it reversed as usual
Skylar is put in an awkward position due to Walt, and just like him, she fucking fumbles it
>>223183919No but I don't think people hate her because of misogyny. The show is from Walter's perspective so the audience is much more inclined to sympathize with him and take his side.
>>223184787nobody to give birth to him
>>223185482read the thread and see what happens to an open-minded viewer when they focus entirely on her and her motivations
>>223185236my minerals are rock-hard
>>223183919No, brba went to shit in s3 when it started getting popular
>>223185256goddamn THAT'S what turns me off. She would totally be accused of being a tranny if she was 15 years younger and starring in more shit
>>223185508I did. With that perspective she becomes just another bad person in a show filled with equally bad people. The only real difference is she isn't interesting like Walt, Jesse, Mike or Saul.
>>223183919yes, she was an annoying bitch and she kept flip flopping on shit
>>223183919>Was the hate for Skyler valid?Not after we find out ahe knew he was a drug dealer the whole time. Especially after we find out Walter was only broke because he was too proud to work for his rich college friends.
>>223184232>You are intended to dislike Skyler.You're intended to, but later on it flips a bit.
she would be sympathetic if she didn't break the law for Ted but she's just a nonsensical whore
>>223185675Walter was a shit person and I hate him but that doesn't nullify my hatred for Skyler
>>223184096FPBP; underrated.
>>223184857>mfw I think of Marcus Aurelius when I'm bent over a toilet
>>223185065>SHE WAS ONLY 38 YEARS OLD YOU SICK FUCK!!!!!
>>223183919It was obvious from the first episode, with the tofu bacon and the nagging and the bored handjobs, that Skyler was set up to be the personification of everything that went wrong with Walters life. After the 2010s bullshit, the creators had to turn around and pretend the audience was a bunch of Chuds for noticing that, but it is what it is.
First you hate Skyler because she doesn't let Walt do cool shit.Then you think the "enlightened take" is that Skylar is a victim and Walt is the villain but you are fooled into rooting for him.THEN you realize that no, Skyler deserves hate because she:>doesn't support her husband and gives him a handjob on birthday>cheats on him>wastes his money on some other guy's scam cover up>smokes while pregnant>is fine with laundering moneyBut the hate comes not because she's a woman but because she's a "passive" evil/enabler. Something like Carmela in Sopranos. Walt is active and takes action even if he can also be annoying as fuck (and in S4 and S5 he becomes passive retard as well sadly).
>>223183919I’m starting to notice that modern women think any negative reaction toward a woman, for any reason, is 100% motivated by misogyny. Like hypothetically, if a woman murdered three little children, other women would think it’s misogyny if you want her held accountable.And yes, Skylar is extremely abrasive. She could canonically volunteer at a soup kitchen every week and people still wouldn’t like her.
>>223185994>I’m starting to notice that modern women think any negative reaction toward a woman, for any reason, is 100% motivated by misogyny.Well, in my case, it is.
>>223183919She was a wretched person, look how she treats Walt's birthday "sex" if you can even call it that in the first episode. She took and ruined his life and the happiest he was was when he got away from her and had something she didn't know about and couldn't ruin. He risked everything for his family and she repaid him by fucking some faggy accountant.
Reminder that Skyler doesn't "owe" Walt sex; even if it's his birthday.
>>223185095>>223184232Desu her husband was making dogshit public school teacher pay with a fancy masters, he could have at least taught at a jr college or something
>>223184968I mean they did a good job writing a wife character
>mfw redditors want me to root for characters who are "morally in the right"lmao fuck you, I'm gonna root for the biggest scumbag as long as he's fun, it's a fucking TV show and not a jury
>>223186148baseado my friend
The show was about Walt. If the show were about Skyler and focused on her from her POV then sure maybe you could have a case. But as breaking bad is she only serves to be a shitty obstacle and problem for Walt.
>>223186198First time in my entire life I've ever felt kinship with the Chinese.
>>223183919>109 different men divorced Skyler>"Why do all men hate Skyler for no reason?"
>>223185176i watched while it was airing and never stopped hating her, shes just unbelievably obnoxious
>>223184537I really hate Vince Gilligan so fucking much it's unreal.
>>223184588not true at all, its just another example of her selfishnessshe got mad at marie because of getting embarrassed in the store and accused of shoplifting. she doesnt have a problem with illegal activity as shown by her willing engagement in tax fraud for ted, along with scamming eyebrows out of the carwash and then laundering walts money
>>223184232you're intended to dislike skyler because the show is from the perspective of walt, her dissatisfied husband who is so sick of his life that he becomes a drug kingpin for shits and giggles. of course his normie wife is going to be portrayed as a hag who gets in the way of walt's criminal arc and the action we, as an audience, are tuning in to seethat said, skyler white is not the bad guy nor are her decisions that bad relative to the criminal speedrunner she's married to. people who full-on hate skyler white miss the point that although she isn't perfect, she represents the moral core that walt is running away from to pursue his selfish, destructuve, and even homicidal power fantasies.vince gilligan accidentally created a vessel for dissatisfied male viewers to project all the reasons they feel like they can't get ahead in this world. the character was too well written and too well performed for her own good
>>223186514she is not moral though so you are missing the point