The film is just going to be centered around the land of waves archttps://x.com/animeupdates/status/2104691272233439358
>live-action adaption slop there are genuinely very few things more faggy than this
zoomies just findin out that his dad is the former president and his mother was from a highly respected clan and he had a super nuke implanted into him as a baby
>>223473765>seething about Naruto being described as exceptionally giftedHave none of these zoomies every actually watched the series?
you can't have a blond ninja
>>223473765Go back to /a/
>>223473765Kill yourself Narutard.
>>223473765>alternate universe where naruto is an exceptionally gifted ninjaso the main canon series
>>223473765>masters an advanced technique nobody can use in a single evening
>>223473765Naruto literally is exceptionally gifted lol
>>223473967Never heard of Sisqo?
Wow you mean there not doing all 400 episodes in 1 flick
>>223473958It's the same people that are crying that the cast is asian.It's bots and shitposters lost in the sauce of culture wars bs. They don't actually care whether the film is good or bad (it will probably be bad for the record, but that's missing the point)
>>223473765Well shit. Fuck that then. I guess they have no idea what the fuck they're doing.
>>223473958>>223475035Naruto is a fucking dumbass who can barely form jutsu signs without fucking up. He is carried by the Kyubi's chakra. He only improves way later when he gets the hang of things. Gifted people are Sasuke and Neji.
>>223475116Wow, I can't believe they didn't write all that in the synopsis. I hope someone got fired for that blunder!
>>223473765Is naruto not an exceptionally gifted ninja in the series?He's popping off shadow clones like they're parts of a candy bar and can use the rasengan as a child
>>223475116You are literally retarded and didn’t finish episode 1
>>223475116Wut?Nigger masters an S-rank jutsu in the first damn episode of the series, uses it brilliantly and continues to get more OP moves (summons that rival tailed beasts power and another s-rank jutsu).It isn't even the kurama chackra that carries him you speed reader, he has Uzumaki nearly infinite chackra. Way to miss the point.He even made his on take on the lion's barrage after seeing it just once. Mentally retarded but a battle genius
>>223475231No. They repeatedly make it a point that Naruto is a genius of hard work and that he’s not gifted he just doesn’t give up/stop trying. The producers and the hack “fan” director have obviously already misunderstood the material
>>223475336He is a descendant of one of the most OP clans, a indirect descendant of the senju clan, the founders of the village, son of the 4th hokage, third only to Hashirama Senju and mandara, holder of the strongest tailed beast, reincarnation of one son of ninja Jesus, and all his hardwork is finding a way to make his training easier with clones.Rock Lee is the hardwork guy
>>223475336Zoomers don't like hard work or being reminded that they have to start from not knowing and work towards knowing a thing. Politely pointing out they have to learn something makes them feel bad, not even joking. The whole shonenjump genre will probably lose popularity in the west soon if it hasn't already>Generation Z's information avoidance behavior is a deliberate choice to skip or delay unwanted, overwhelming, or distressing content. >They actively and passively avoids information (such as health updates, news, and advertisements) as a coping mechanism against digital stress and cognitive overload.
>>223473958Naruto is a bad ninja who works harder than everyone else to be the best, and he's NEVER the best. THAT IS NARUTOS IDIOM, TO TECH CHILDREN TO WORK HARD REGARDLESS OF RESULTS.
>>223475233Your a retard who didn't understand the implications of season 1. He mastered a tough Jutsu through determination, through reps. Not by being gifted, by practice and effort. That is a HUGE distinction that is central to his character.
every single time
>>223475390Rock Lee is called a foil (I know you forgot 10th grade lit). Rock Lee is Naruto of Jujutsu, while Naruto is Rock Lee of ninjutsu. Naruto also relies on the same attacks all the time, and usually beats enemies through tactical decisions early on.
>>223475233You stupid retard He has to work 10 times as hard as anyone for the same result
>>223475562You baiting retarded fucking nigger, he mastered an s rank forbidden jutsu in a single evening before even becoming a genin, a jutsu that requires insane amounts of chakra that he could do mainly because he comes from a clan gifted with huge chakra reserves. What reps are you even fucking talking about.
a live action with all asian american actors will FLOP hard
>>223475677You don’t even know the difference between a regular clone jutsu and shadow clones. KYS. Last (you)
>>223473765Why not just make a boruto movie then?
>>223475562Nigga shadow clones are not "a tough jutsu", it is a kill yourself jutsu, Naruto mastered it because he has basically infinite chakra pools, anyone else would basically kill themselves by Chakra depletion.Everything else he masters precisely because shadow clones are basically a learning hack
>>223473765They're going to cast a tranny for Haku instead of a bishie twink aren't they?
>>223475824asians make the best trannies tho, you can't tell the difference
>>223475731It's the first episode dumbass He gets the forbidden scroll and goes tardrage mode and makes 100 of them to fight that white hair dude Iruka saves him Until that moment he was the only person who couldn't make a normal shadow clone and he had to work a billion times as hard for the even harder clones
>>223475774Also this He LLMs his clones to teach himself shit and even then it takes forever
>>223473765https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoQmh4ZKwGAI stopped watching at episode 47 back in the day. Have some music though.
>>223475876https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRX7SE_SRkcKazakhstan girls look really cute what was that comment on about
>>223474401no one can use it because it takes up a lot of chakra, which nardo has bc of the kyuubi and uzumaki clan bloodline
>>223475854You can’t even name Mizuki and you’re trying to convince me you know more? He literally made it to the final rounds of what was the most competitive chuunin exam in leaf history and could have won it. He had an S rank boss summon (Gamabunta) by episode 60 that he didn’t even need to use against Neji. Naruto being incompetent was just to get the initial plot started but kid Naruto is clearly OP.
>>223475854Shadow clones are a forbidden jutsu not because they are harder to make but because they more expensive to make, essentially splitting your chakra per clone, and any time one gets defeated any and all chakra used on them is lost.So in terms of how hard they are to make, it is still a easy to learn jutsu, just one you should not learn
>>223475545it's a burden being a millennial and knowing I am objectively superior to more than half the population based solely on being born at the right time to learn everything tech while growing up and having a brain designed for constantly learning new skills and trades
>>223475972Worst part is that if neji knew how stacked his family tree was he would have coincided on the spot.Now seriously he would have not japped at all about destiny
>>223475854the shadow clones is exclusive to him (in his age bracket)everyone else could do regular clones (images)at least get it right if youre gonna opinionate
>started watching bleach>discover the japanese did a shitty live action film some years backWhy? What's the point?
>>223475774Your point still lines up with what he's saying because of this >>223475873He's a dumbass who got lucky with the clone scroll early on but most everything he does comes from hard work. Harder than the rest of his peers.
>>223473765Had the same problem with Evey in the live action version of picrel. In the book she was a nobody and the whole point was anyone can stand up to the man. The movie turned her into a freedom fighter whose parents were also freedom fighters who led the resistance. Meaning it's basically in her blood to to help others to rise up
>>223473967eminem is honorary
>>223473765>Dragon ball evolution 2.0I wish. there's really not enough cringe kino.
>>223473765People who think naruto wasn't canonically a gifted ninja must have watched all the filler, never read the manga, and got confused by that.Naruto was always noted for being exceptionally gifted, but the fox prevented him from controlling his chakra correctly. The fact he was able to learn shadow clones, and so fast at that, is a great evidence point. People twice his level literally get fucked up and/or die just reading the scroll.
>>223473765Naruto already is an exceptionally gifted ninja canonically. The only reason he struggled at the beginning was because he lacked a teacher, parent, or mentor to help him. It didn't help that the village outright hated him, so teachers had no incentive to help him.But once Naruto DID get some people that gave a damn about him in his life, his potential immediately skyrocketed. He learned Shadow Clone Jutsu in a night, he learned tree walking in the exact same amount of time that it took a giga prodigy like Sasuke to do it, and he learned Rasengan in a week, a feat thought to be impossible. As the story progressed, we also learned that the Kyuubi was actually fucking up Naruto's chakra control. The Kyuubi exponentially increased Naruto's chakra, but lorewise, the more chakra you have, the harder it is to control your chakra. Kakashi even spells this out in the manga. Which would explain why he couldn't pass the Jutsu required for the Genin Graduation Exam. Those Jutsu called for a level of chakra control that was impossible for Naruto to pull off without chakra control training. No one gave a damn about Naruto enough to notice this. After training with Jiraya for three years, Naruto's melee capabilities were on par with Kakashi's, a top tier jonin. In a week, Naruto perfected the Rasengan, something that Minato, Jiraya, and Kakashi were all incapable of doing, even though every single one of them is also a prodigy.In a week, Naruto learned and perfected Sage Mode, a feat that Minato and Jiraya were both incapable of doing. By the final arc, Naruto was casually making new jutsu on the fly. He would raise his hand, form a Rasengan, and then casually mix it with a new element to create new Rasengan variants, which again, is freakishly hard to do, because Minato, Jiraya, and Kakashi couldn't do this with literal years of training.
>>223475547Literally the whole brock lee storyline is precisely to reinforce that naruto is not a hard worker, but just insanely talented.
>>223473765Ninjas only sell outside of Japan. They're dated to domestic zoomers.
>>223475116>He is carried by the Kyubi's chakra.If you remove the Kyuubi from Naruto, then Naruto will have a normal chakra pool, which means his chakra control won't be fucked up when he's a child. More importantly if you take the Kyuubi from Naruto, then you have to follow that chain of events to it's logical conclusion: Naruto is alive and he doesn't have the Kyuubi sealed inside of him, which would also imply that Minato and Kushina are ALSO alive because that's the only possible way you can get a timeline where Naruto isn't the Nine Tails Jinchuriki.With Minato and Kushina alive, Naruto will get top of the line training from two of the best shinobi alive on the planet. And while Naruto wouldn't be as strong as his canon self, he'd still easily be an S Tier ninja, especially because canon Naruto is already a prodigy even without Minato's tutelage. See >>223477959 where I explain why.
>>223475753Don’t ever type that shit again. Even looking at the word makes me vomit. That show never exist.
>>223475547>Naruto is a bad ninja Nah
>>223478069And here is Jiraya, who was one of the strongest and most talented shinobi alive before he died. He couldn't master Sage Mode, but Naruto could. Really makes you think.
>>223478093And here is Sasuke admitting that Naruto has literally perfect chakra control. Even Sasuke, a literal once in a generation prodigy is JEALOUS of Naruto here.
>>223477959>Naruto perfected the Raseng>needs clones to do itok bro
>>223473765is that guy the flip comicbook cuck?
>>223473795exhibit one: youlmao
>>223473958This video completely warped people's perception of the series. Hard work vs talent themes existed in Naruto but these guys act like it was the main theme and all that matters.
>>223475288>masters an S-rank jutsu in the first damn episodeit's impressive at the time, but the mass learning retcon makes naruto look like a retard
>>223478857It was a pretty important theme in the story, definitely top 3 if not top 2. The majority of side characters literally existed to propose scenarios for the writer to conclude on the matter. Gaara is an example of pure talent, whereas lee is an example of pure effort. Naruto is an example of 90% talent and 10% effort. Pink bitch is 30% talent, 70% effort. The triplet squad was 10% talent, 90% effort, but compensated by teamwork.
>>223478019is it still sorcerers and demons dominating shonen?
>>223478038>If you remove the Kyuubi from Naruto, then Naruto will have a normal chakra pool, which means his chakra control won't be fucked up when he's a child.Uzumakis have the largest chakra pools alongside the og senjus
>>223473958>>223475035>>223475233>>223475288>>223475731>>223475873>>223478857You're a braindead moron and a retard.
>>223475035>It's bots and shitposters lost in the sauce of culture wars bsRetard, the producers forcing the cast to be asian only are the ones making this be culture war cancer. Also what >>223479447 said.You're so ignorant and moronic, it's embarrassing.
Looking back pain and might guys death were the only palatable parts of this cartoon
>>223479527Pain was meh to me.
>>223479271and they're still not fucking tailed beasts, retard
>>223479506>choosing to cast asian actors in a live-action adaptation of a japanese manga is culture war bs>crying online about asians being cast in a live-action adaptation of a japanese manga is based thoughimagine unironically being this stupid
>>223475116>>223475547>>223479447>>223478038Naruto was born a genius, he's the descendant of the one who created the world as they know it, the Biju (tailed demons) and chakra too, along with SasuGAY.turns out hard work doesn't mean shit without good genes (see : Rock Lee, Tenten and Sakura).
>>223480159>choosing to cast asian actors in a live-action adaptation of a japanese manga is culture war bsIt is because the characters in the show clearly don't look asian. You being an ignorant and disingenuous moron doesn't change that.
>>223480289yeah naruto is one of those self made kids who borrowed a million dollars from their rich dads
>>223480289>Rock Leethey made him a prodigy with the gates thing, pretty much every named character has some super special talent
>>223478019No one asked.
>>223481046No, anyone can do the gates thing. Nobody does it because it means you kill yourself to do this. He had to resort to this just to keep up because he had infinite hard work and no talent. End result: he got crippled for life and he got lucky to even get that, in an encounter that, ultimately, was basically minor.
>>223481046Rock Lee fucked his body permanently in the manga, he never truly recovered and was still weaker than his enemies because he couldn't defend against mind technics or magic users (i mean chakra).same deal with Tenten, summoning weapons COOL ! but useless against magic users.Sakura is very strong, okay bro but still not enough against magic users.oh and if you pay attention, every name character that is very strong comes from an old family (like Hinata, Kiba, Ino, etc...)and at the end of the manga, Tenten becomes a wagie with no husband, Rock Lee is forever alone and Sakura becomes the ultimate wage slave also.the rest gets comfy gubbermint jobs except Ino with the flower shop.
>>223475116And the only reason he can even be carried by nine tails chakra is because hes an Uzumaki, even without getting into all the retarded late stage Shippuden bullshit, he is a highly GIFTED kid. Being gifted and a lazy bum are not mutually exclusive.
>>223481772And the archetype of lazy but gifted was represented in 2 main characters: hinata's brother (that's the official narrative but I think that's a bit arguable), and especially gaara. The story of naruto concludes that gifted + hard worker > gifted >>>> garbage >>>>>>>> hardest worker in the universe > normalfags
>>223474232pretty sure they mean an alternate universe to ours, not the series
>>223481840Our universe doesn't have magic, so that part is already implied. Alternate definitely means the series and it's a way of saying expect to see things that are outside of the established canon. Just like how the MCU movies are separate from the 616 universe.
>>223479447>>223479447How do you think this disproves Naruto being gifted?First of all this is Orochimarus scientist perspective, mastering every jutsu in existence is not in fact the standard for who is and isnt talented.A regular kid would not be able to learn the rasengan at such a young age, become sage at like 16, invent his own jutsu that literally destroys its target on a cellular level and this is without even getting into late stage Shippuden bullshittery. Most people just didn't comprehend how absurd Narutos chakra reserves are probably until he became Hokage.
>>223481817He becomes a hard worker later but early on he very much is a total bum that sleeps through classes
>>223481966Not true, even from the start he is noted for being studious and very good at everything in theory and practice except for one: chakra control. He is also seen relentlessly practicing chakra control and almost managed to do regular cloning even despite his condition as a result. It's also why he was able to learn shadow clones, and it was later noted that just knowing the technique isn't remotely enough to learn it. They imply it also requires both hard work and talent.
>>223473765Alternate Universe means not on earthDuh
>>223481640>No, anyone can do the gates thingmaybe, but he's still a genius according to kakashi
>>223473958Being familiar with the source material of your adaptation is complete cringe, bro
>>223482144That's only kakashi's supposition. The conclusion is "he's a genius... at hard work". Aka not a genius at all. This was a major point in this sequence and they had this exchange specifically to drive home the fact he has no outward talent at all.
>>223479447Bodied those freaks
Naruto is very gay.
>>223481640>>223481762What are you two talking about, rock lee isn't crippled for life and might guy never uses any ninjutsu either and kicks magic users ass all the time and even itachi was afraid to fight him
>>223482394Guy himself says these things, retard.
>>223482394he isn't crippled for life but his body has been weakened when he used the gate too much, he can't do that anymore or he'll die for real this time.he successfully got the surgery to fix his body but it won't work again, he only had 58% chances of surviving it to begin with.>>223482009he wasn't originally bad at chakra control, it's just that Kyubi's chakra doesn't mix well with his chakra so it couldn't work like normal.
>>223479447I get what you say anon, but unfortunately Kishi couldn't fucking help himself and Naruto ended up being basically a descendant of a deity, Uzumakis being blessed with unnatural vitality and chakra reserves.That doesn't mean he didn't work hard, and there was a period of time when Fox outright crippled his progress and Naruto had to find workarounds. He was also a combat genius who defeated third Raikage with a single shadow clone.
>>223482413What about this part>might guy never uses any ninjutsu either and kicks magic users ass all the time and even itachi was afraid to fight himWas guy useless against magic using enemies, fucking retard
>>223473765Will they fix sakuras character.
>>223481762>Tenten becomes a wagie with no husband, Rock Lee is forever alone and Sakura becomes the ultimate wage slave also.>the rest gets comfy gubbermint jobs except Ino with the flower shop.But that kinda mirrors real life and ambition of kids, doesn't it. Kiba kept spamming that he will become Hokage, but he never really put any effort in. He got married and had a kid, and is quite comfy, but he is like that 40 years old guy who won't shut the fuck up about his high school football.
>>223475035They are correct, casting naruto as an asian with a blonde wig and blue eye contacts is dog shit retarded
>>223482568Probably not
>>223481772>he is a highly GIFTED kid.I liked that the more lore Kishi added, more it painted third Hokage as callous, incompetent bastard who ruined everything for everybody.>hey, two years old kid, here's some money for rent and cup noodles
>>223482540>>223482394Guy can do summoning jutsu, limited clone jutsu, some fire style ninjutsu and he can dispel advanced genjutsu. He just focused on taijutsu the most, while Lee simply couldn't do it at all.Also Lee never trained as hard as Guy.
>>223482568>this shit againSakura is perfectly fine, she was mean ONCE as a kid but as for the rest, Naruto used to be a little creepy pervert that kept pressuring Sakura to be his GF, even though she said no many times and wanted to get SasuGAY instead, she made it clear lots of times but the little retard kept insisting.truth is Naruto was never even in love with Sakura, he only viewed her as a sex partner, he was never really deeply interested in her personality, this is obvious in many chapters where he only sees Sakura's body and not the rest.meanwhile Hinata kept fawning over him and he didn't even notice.Sakura was just a normalfag girl in this series, she just thought he was a pretty annoying perverted kid, so why should she accept his dumb advances ?Narutards are always mad towards Sakura even though she stayed loyal to SasuGAY till the end (yeah i know, woman moment).
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>>223482605In general the way Naruto is treated and third allowing it and having him live on pennies drinking expired milk is all so retarded.There is no way Minato and a fucking Uzumaki woman had nothing to pass down on Naruto
>>223482685>she stayed loyal to SasuGAY till the endTheir marriage in Boruto is actually pretty wholesome, they are both very much in love.
>>223482580To be fair, making a live action adaptation of an anime is already as retarded as it gets
>>223473765Land of waves is a no brainer but casting 16-20yo asians instead of visually appealing white 12-13yos is kind of a head scratcher. Especially the age part, that’s where you flirt with DBE.
>>223478857>this videoWtf is wrong with zoomers thinking the world gives a fuck about their video essays? You solipsistic retards really cant form your own opinions?
>>223482711Most babbies with blue eyes tend to lose them, like half of caucasians are born with blue eyes. I'm sure there's at least one "asian" person with like 1/16th heritage with blue eyes as an adult but at that point why not just cast white and actually have a cast pool to choose from?[spoil]But seriously who the fuck ever heard of a chinese woman with green eyes?[/spoiler]
>>223482828>the way Naruto is treated and third allowing itI can see why villagers could feel fear or hostility towards Naruto, but Third letting them do it is something else. 'Hey, let's mistreat this walking nuke and our only deterrent'.Unfortunately, when this patern of behavior repeats itself consistently with Hiruzen, it stops being writing mistakes and it becomes his character. He neglects Naruto, his disciples are nothing to write home about, and he allowed glownigger faction to run fucking rampant through entire village, leading to an extinction of entire clan purely thanks to gayops.
>>223475824I don't know why, but your post made me kek
>>223479001>Naruto is an example of 90% talent and 10% effortHe literally couldn't do jutsus because Fox fucked with him. He created entirely new technique just because he needed workaround Fox preventing him from using sage techniques, something Jiraya never had to deal with.
>>223482685Naruto was in live with her.
I love Naruto but I won't watch this movie
>>223482711Even this kid doesn't look like Naruto.Naruto is an imaginary white kid in an imaginary world, giving him slit jap eyes serve no purpose, it just makes him look ugly
Again with the Shippuden nigger revisionism Hirizen gave Naruto his own pent house suite in the downtown village center. It is implied he never had to pay rent. His room was big (for Japanese standards) and clean except when he came back from long ass missions. And the reason why he ate ramen and milk is because that’s all he wanted. Drinking expired milk was an amusing accident for one comedy episode. Jesus fucking Christ. I know Hiruzen could’ve had a babysitter for him, but part 1 of Naruto shows how brutal and old-world everything is. Did you all want Hiruzen holding Naruto’s hand through the academy as well?
>>223482897>>223478857This is actually a pretty funny video lol It makes all the points. This guy's talking about nothing's wrong with video essays fag it's not like those fucking eight hour star wars videos
>>223473765If this movie isn't a success, it will kill so many new careers in the cradle.
>>223482828>>223482931Know your history. Previous Japanese generations were well known for neglecting children of mixed heritage, to the point where some died. He was treated like a war baby.>Among the headstones, there is a monument to the unnamed dead also buried there including, it is said, more than 800 mixed race children abandoned during the postwar Occupation, whose fathers were foreign servicemen.>Commentators predicted the children would show low intelligence and a tendency to antisocial behavior. In fact, the IQ scores of those in family situations were on a par with the average Japanese, and delinquency was the result of social prejudice and socioeconomic disadvantage, not genetics.Lots of period piece anime incorporate social norms of the era but with a twist. Naruto is essentially a mystical post-WWII story about a GI baby struggling to be accepted.
Why didn't they just do it as a show after One piece was a big hit on Netflix
>>223473958>>223475547>>223475116naruto was always gifted even without the fox. its really that he was poor and didn't have parents.its actually about wealth as once his parents died nobody in the village actually gave a shit.sasuke had his parents and itachi for a bit jiraya shows up and takes a slight interest in him and all of a sudden he actually learns.
>>223482685>he only viewed her as a sex partner, he was never really deeply interested in her personality. You must be a speed reader
>>223482909Then give the lil nigga contacts, who cares>>223483052This is autism
>>223483514What an ugly mutt
>>223479271>Uzumakis have the largest chakra pools alongside the og senjusHe didn't inherit the Uzumaki clan's large chakra pool. His chakra is only massive because of the Kyuubi and its impact on his chakra pool.
>.... and Jessica Bartlett as Hinata!
>>223478620Yes, in order for Rasengan to be perfected you need to use clones, Minato and Jiraya were wrong.
>>223484399But he's saying that Naruto didn't inherit his parent's exceptional abilities, the things they could do that set them apart from everyone else. Large chakra reserves are a default Uzumaki ability, not something that Kushina had that made her unique.
>>223481941>How do you think this disproves Naruto being gifted?Because the story presents the discussion between Jiraiya and Orochimaru as being truthful and genuine. Jiraiya literally agrees with Orochimaru in regards to Naruto being talentless, and the whole Tsunade arc keep treating Naruto as some ungifted loser compared to the Fourth who mastered the rasengan. If you want to say that the story is shit and inconsistent in regards with how talented Naruto is, then that's fine, but the fans who keep acting like the story never tried to glorify Naruto as some talentless underdog who needs to work hard are just disingenuous and retarded.
>>223473765Will 50 Cent or Samuel Jackson be casted as the Raikage? Who will play Killah Bee? Will Smith?
>>223475233the shadow clone thing was retarded, and kishi walked that back later and just made it to where naruto can spawn a lot more than the average person.
>>223482711>>223483514Do you really not see how stupid and forced it is for the studio to insist on making the cast be asian/asian-mix only when they need to cast the whitest looking asians they can find? How are you so ignorant and retarded?
>>223485355I don't take this shit as seriously as you do. Naruto was 20 years ago, faggot.
>>223485355>>223484796
>>223485400Yeah, that doesn't look like Naruto. You retard.
>>223473795ThisWhy do these “people” feel the need to ruin series that already exist? Literally no one watches the live action shitGuess the kikes have truly run out of ideas to steal from others
>hi I'm naruto
>>223482897>Wtf is wrong with zoomers thinking the world gives a fuck about their video essays?It has over three million views you retard, that's more than enough to affect online discourse.
>>223479447>Literally the next page Jiraiya calls Naruto talented with the guts to never give up, and is proven right when he winsRetard-kun…
>>223480289>Naruto was born a genius, he's the descendant of the one who created the world as they know it, the Biju (tailed demons) and chakra too, along with SasuGAY.This twist was so annoying because Naruto is ALREADY the son of the Fourth Hokage and the carrier of the most powerful tailed demon. Like that wasn't enough? Kishimoto had to make him Jesus too? Neji was right about everything, man.
>>223482909cope
>>223479447>>223481941Both of these characters know that Naruto is the Fourth's son. This entire back and forth makes no fucking sense.
>>223485616>talented with the guts to never give upThat's called tenacity and it doesn't contradict the other comment. If anything you're helping to prove his point
>>223479271What was the point of giving Naruto a genetically huge chakra pool on top of giving him the magic demon upgrade that gives him a huge chakra pool? It would be like saying that the Uchiha actually have 20/20 vision and superhuman reflexes even without the sharingan, the fuck is the purpose?
>>223479447Naruto's talents aren't immediately obvious. At base he has Uzumaki chakra levels, but you never get an idea of how huge that would be because he was with Kurama since day 1. Beyond that Naruto is literally a retard that barely understands anything about ninjutsu or even the village he wants to be hokage of. I would argue Naruto is rather untalented, he's a fraud living off Kurama's handouts and later Asura's.
>>223484399I feel like I'm getting gaslighted at this point. Naruto absolutely had an abnormally high chakra. Sure he might not have as much as Kushina or other pure blood Uzumaki but it is still a very, very large reserve
>>223485668>genetically huge chakra pool potential to be as good as peak human>magic demon upgradesuperhuman
>>223482897PlagueOfGripes is a millenial thoever??
>>223485628The entire thing completely nose dives so hard when the war starts. Borderline unwatchable slop.
>>223485668Because his chakra pool is what allows him to even be an effective vessel
>>223475824Abandon all hope. Don't know why you had hope. But let it die now before your pain increases.
>>223473958It raises questions about what else they are going to change but I never really had hopes for this anyway so it doesn't matter.
>>223485807I think that's the point where Kishimoto was out of ideas but he just wanted to keep milking the franchise because he knew it was printing money. It really should have ended with the Pain arc. Nagato resurrecting everyone was already a huge asspull that was sort of pushing it, but it's the kind of thing you could get away with if you were ending the story there. Instead we got>Dude but like, what if, um, KABUTO, remember Kabuto, the creepy guy who hung out with Orochimaru, what if he, like, brought everyone back as zombies. Like EVERYONE. It's like a clip show, we can bring back all the old characters and have them fight. >And, um, what if, um, Sasuke got the Rinnegan because idk, whatever, fuck you>And like, Pain was never the final bad guy because Madara was the final bad guy but Madara was never the final bad guy because the final bad guy was an ALIEN>And then Naruto and Sasuke fight again at the waterfall, remember their fight at the waterfall before the timeskip? Rasengan vs chidori? Haha that awesome, let's just do that again. >And then it ends, whatever, fuck you. Gonna pay some other guy to do the spinoff sequel so I can keep cashing checks forever
>>223485836That's just a retcon though, nothing from the first decade+ of the series even remotely implies that having a large chakra pool is a prerequisite to be a Jinchuriki.
>>223473765So Boruto?
>>223485668So has potential to be godlike on his own in addition to fox magic. Also fits his character, He's a high energy idiot, lots of potential, doesn't know how to use it, gets by on dumb brute force and determination which is why he can do shadow clones early on, just keeps dumping energy till it works.
>>223486192>Also fits his character, He's a high energy idiot, lots of potential, doesn't know how to use it, gets by on dumb brute force and determination which is why he can do shadow clones early on, just keeps dumping energy till it works.Which is ALL explained by the fact that he has the nine-tailed fox. Literally none of this requires him to have super DNA on top of that.
>>223486258*Oh and again, on top of all this his dad was the Fourth Hokage. He was already naturally mega-talented, and his signature jutsu is literally something his dad invented. So this is just adding another layer of superhuman potential on top of his already superhuman potential on top of his demon buddy hanging out in his belly. It would be like if Dragonball Z revealed that Goku wasn't just a Super Saiyan, he was a Super Super Duper Saiyan from the secret extra Saiyan planet where the Saiyans are even stronger than other Saiyans. (If this was unironically a plot point in DBZ it would not surprise me)
>>223475612>Naruto also relies on the same attacks all the timePeople forget all he knows is like rasengan, bigger rasengan, throwing rasengan later on I think or is that boruto?
>>223475984Actually it's way more than half the population because we're also better than everyone older than us too.
>/tv/ doing naruto lore posting and power scaling in current year digging up chapter panels to argue with
>>223486422Erika would be a great Sasuke.
>>223486382>throwing rasengan later on I think or is that boruto?No, that was Naruto. It was "Rasenshuriken" iirc, it was when he learned to infuse the wind element into his rasengan. It was also when Kishimoto introduced the idea that by using Shadow Clones, you could learn an entire years' worth of knowledge in an hour, (Naruto powerlevels the elemental training process in about a week by using hundreds of clones) which launched an entire genre of annoying fanfictions where he's like a turbo genius before the Wave Arc because he sent 2,000 clones to the local library or had them practice karate or whatever.
Kakashi looks like that?!
>>223482948That stare always gets me.
>>223484704I think Sakura is going to win this time since its in an ALTERNATE STORYLINE.
>>223484704No they need to hire that drake goth girl
>>223486554i want konan
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>>223486799Konan would never smile like that, this is the same thing that ruins Frieren cosplayers for me
They already said they are only hiring Wasians. They said Wasian/Asian but that means they are only getting Wasians.
>>22348685299.9% of the reason so many fags fell in love with rei was the "smile" after shinji yanked open the plug hatch. It was out of character for rei until you realize she only smiled because shinji told her to.
>>223475116I only watched a bit of the show but wasn't Naruto a genuinely gifted ninja who only fucked up so much because of chakra-twisting bullshit they put on him as a kid to stop the demon coming out? I vaguely remember his pervert teacher fixing it and then Naruto immediately learning to kick ass. I stopped watching shortly after that, when the big titty lady becomes president or something.
>>223486965The answer to your question is in the post you replied to.
>>223486983No it isn't. But the rest of the thread confirmed what I remembered. All good.
>>223487051>didn't watch the show>cherrypicks whatever confirms his biasyou're as dumb as naruto
>>223473765I have never seen Naruto, but I've always assumed he already is exceptionally gifted ninja?
>>223487090>cherrypicks Huh? I questioned him saying Naruto was a "dumb fuck" when all of his early issues seemed to stem from him being fucked with as a kid. Other posts confirmed that. What are you even angry about, you illiterate retard?
>>223482475>he wasn't originally bad at chakra control, it's just that Kyubi's chakra doesn't mix well with his chakra so it couldn't work like normal.Correct. It is said a few times that without the kyuubi, he would have had no problems at all. Later, it is also said that he acquires chakra control very quickly, when he's "allowed" to do more with it. The problem is nobody told him what was going on and they just let him flounder around for no reason.
>>223482540This is wrong. Only Rock Lee can't use these. Might can, he just thought taijutsu was more fun and maxxed it out. This is the reason Might can be feared while Rock is worthless (Might's own implicit but very clear words).
>>223482681>Also Lee never trained as hard as Guy.As I recall that isn't actually true, but obviously Lee didn't train as long.
>>223483505That's a self-pwn, sis. Here you see that for the first time ever, he saw sakura as a person first and a sex toy second.
>>223482991>>223482991Wrong, he could do all jutsus that didn't require complex chakra manipulation. This is very explicitly stated. Not only that, he almost managed to do the most difficult (for him) without even knowing what's going on with him and why he has it so hard. The things he learn later, he has to do on fuckall timeline to avoid being killed or many people dying, which is why his masters think or even say that he's clearly a genius.
Naruto is an ok series at best.I'm not excited for a film about it.
>>223487449>Naruto is an 10/10 series at best.Ftfy.
>>223487586>Nartuo hyperventilates when he finds out Sauske is wildin' out>Nartuo calls Obito a cool guy when he dies, (this man murdered his parents and destroyed his life)>Everyone in the village gets resurrected after dying to Pain (Naruto could have become some kind of Hokage/leader of a broken village, but didn't)>Sakura confesses to Naruto (his dream btw) and he rejects her>Sakura meat riding Sasuke, goes to him, he tries to murder her, she marries him in the end>Everyone is resurrected for some reason>A random female alien is the final villain Brother, when I tell you this is not a 10/10 story, I wonder how many series have you consumed?I could go on.
>>223487650Come on now, everyone knows shitpudding a botchedruto don't exist.
>>223487650>Sakura confesses to Naruto (his dream btw) and he rejects herWhy would he accept a fake love confession? He cares about her so he wouldn't want to be in a loveless relationship with her, where she'd only pretending to love him. That wouldn't e love, that would be pity.
>>223487650sakura was an evil bitch, he was right to turn her down and marry his big titty goth gf
>>223485738you're not being gaslit, the manga is just inconsistent and badly written. you can find a page to support any view you take of a character
>>223478857Kishi has said the series was about the importance of bonds. friendship, family, love, clans, villages. the connections we all share. only dimwits look at Neji v Naruto and extrapolate it to the series as a whole.
>>223479447Naruto's main message USED to be hard work vs. talent but the tourists who found the series only after it was complete breezed through all the material that was hammering that theme into the audience's head and thought the later retcons where it turned out Naruto was ninja Jesus all along are the point.
>>223474401it's not advanced, it's highly dangerous. every clone you make halves your current chakra. so, with one clone you've got 50% and with two clones you're at 25%, and so on. this renders normal users mostly ineffective as combatants and it can outright kill them if they don't watch how many they make. Naruto doesn't have this problem because Kurama gives him the equivalent of an entire army's worth of chakra to draw from, so he can make dozens and dozens of clones without even noticing the hit to his chakra levels. Naruto's problem with normal academy-style clones is they require delicate chakra control to maintain, which Naruto doesn't have. he was just brute forcing it by dumping far more chakra into the jutsu than was necessary, which caused it to not work. with shadow clones that's what makes the jutsu work, though.
>>223479527Guy didn't die.
>>223475753Boruto is not canon.
>>223482681Guy has no problem with using ninjutsu, he actively chooses not to to serve as inspiration for Lee.
>>223482568her turbo thundercunt personality is precisely what they want girls to act like. expect them to make her save the boys lives, and also expect them to make Hinata into a girlboss too.
>>223489187In Boruto he has 4 permanent shadow clones active throughout entire day to do necessary work in the village, to the point where his closest cannot tell the difference. It is safe to say it is his most impressive, signature technique. Even Sasuke on top of his game could make only around a dozen clones.
>>223489133What kishi wanted and what kishi delivered are not the same thing. The only time bonds and clans came into the picture was when people inherited special snowflake talent blood. The only time villages came into the picture was about secret techniques folded over a thousand times. Absolutely no connection was of any importance in the story. Naruto did not get strong because a friend helped him, or because he loved sakura. In fact, he even had to fetch his own masters or be thrown at some to get anywhere. The few people who did have bonds were consistently extremely weak, trying to cope by ganging up on people, and failing.
>>223489249>expect them to make Hinata into a girlboss too.Hinata is a housewife who deeply respect s her husband though.
>>223486799she would never in a million years date a guy actually interested in anime btw
>>223489283That is a staggering lack of media literacy.
>>223489297Death of the author, nigger.
>>223489283the core revolving conflict of the series is Naruto and Sasuke's relationship. specifically, Naruto trying to get Sasuke to stop trying to run away from his connections. everything else is window dressing.
>>223489251my point was it's chakra limits that determine how many you can create and not get yourself killed, not ninjutsu skill. it's like throwing a hand grenade; anyone can do it theoretically but if you fuck up you'll blow yourself up.
>>223489306More like Death of your brain, faggot.
