Not my problem

Baltar won

They had a plan. j/k, they didn't.

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>>223746751
>I don't get-ACK

And that is a good thing.

>>223746751
I lusted for the poojeeta

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>>223746773
But not the one you think.

Intentionally throwing the ship into the sun at the end feels like a fuck you to the audience.

>>223746827
Why? Seems like a fitting end. A funeral pyre.

>>223746827
Everything about the ending was ass pull retardation

>>223746751
Did you finish it?
You're supposed to get hooked at the mystery of how exactly they connect to our IRL earth. Is this the future? The past? Who are the Gods that they worship? Is that girl in baltar's head just a hallucination or a piece of technology or a literal ghost or what? Whats this "plan" the intro sequence tells me about every episode? Who are the secret cylons on board? Ect.
If you don't find that mystery appealing then you wont enjoy this much if at all. Baltar is the best thing about this show but it's no Stargate Atlantis where one guy can just carry a mediocre premise through sheer acting chops.
No spoilers but the answer to all these questions is the most dogshit answer you can think of. Like you can probably think of it right now but if I hadnt said this, you'd dismiss it as "no that can't be that, thatd be too fucking stupid". It's that. Seriously.
"The plan?" Not real. They actually didn't have a plan, lol, get fucked.
The cylons? There's no way to guess, it's basically random characters they didn't know what to do with. "Lol".

It's shit. The same kind of people that love this are the kind that like lost I think, people who can overlook the absolute dogshit destination for the thrillride of the writers jiggling keys in front of you going oooohhh look the mystery has a new twist ooohhh while said mystery is being made up on the spot. If they planned for that ending then they deliberately chose the worst most dogshit ending they could have chosen so that's even worse.

I liked the ending and nothing you can say will change my mind. It's a great pleb filter.

>>223746847
themically its jarring because the ship has been their and audiences home for 4 seasons and it feels theyre just symbolically throwing away everything that makes them who they are
and logistically it makes no sense because hurr durr why would we need technology let's just go back to being agrarian tribes

>>223746751
ran out of budget and got super heavy with actual unironic magic miracles
>sturbuck appears to be dead
>for several episodes
>she comes back just fine
this is after an entire arc where she is marooned on a planet with a raider and came back from the dead once, except they show how and it makes a fun story

Here is my hot take:
i liked the ending
recently rewatched the whole thing for the first time since it aired
great series, still holds up

>>223746865
Baltar is very very good but I think what kept me watching was ejo being awesome and doing what needs to be done until suddenly he becomes a totally different character

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>>223746827
>Seethe more, urbanite!

>>223746902
Who the fuck is "ejo"? You mean Starbuck?

>>223746751
>frakking sneed
>frakking chuck

>>223746865
John obviously became a god machine and now spends eternity fucking with a time loop as a final fuck you to the humans and cylon rebels. I thought that was obvious by what Baltar said at the end.

>>223746897
This isn't a hot take its just bait
Only good thing about the ending is that it somehow manages to age worse and worse with every coming year

>>223746879
Not to metion the reason they do it is some vague notion of breaking the cycle of robuttz vs humans and just intermingling everyone into the green mass effect ending ony for the same thing to happen because everybody forgot they're part cylon.
It's just bad writing.

The idea that everyone gave up running water to live in mud huts is asinine.

>>223746919
edward james olmos/adama

>>223746925
This literally makes no sense as that'd make him malicious. Are we talking about the same John? The old cylon guy?

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>>223746929
That's just, like, your opinion bro.

>>223746945
then just say that dumb fuck

>>223746939
Their supplies were running out and there's no way they could maintain the tech for long either way.

>>223746957
Is this the first time you're talking about bsg online by any chance?

>>223746751
This show would have been 10/10 without the supernatural/spiritualism/voodoo stuff. Hell, take the human cylons away too. Just make it a pure, grounded military and political drama where they're trying to survive and keep the fleet civilization going long enough to make it to a habitable planet, while being constantly pursued by a faceless machine enemy.

>>223746960
They can maintain running water.

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>>223746865
it is better than lost because they were able to retcon the story into making sense at least. A good chunk of it was solid up until mid season 3 into 4 where they really just kinda ran out of ideas to keep things episodic, alongside the budget being diverted to side projects like razor.
Sy-fy had it's lightening in a bottle and milked it for every ounce of quality they could. If writers strike didn't happen it'd go to like 10 seasons of slop to keep pumping it
>>223746929
not that anon but the show is at least concise and can have deep enough story that it doesn't just fuck the audience. Although the deep story was just made up after the fact by an autistic writer to retcon things into making sense, but at least it wasn't Lost that kept introducing twists going nowhere

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>>223746897
This.
But the weakest part is the how they ad hoc decided the final five cylon models.

>>223746879
The ships weren't their homes, they were prisons. Especially the prison ship but all the other ones too.

>>223746960
So? When your car breaks down and its too expensive to repair do you set fire to the fuel tank?

>>223746974
No, nor is it the first time I've met a 75 IQ proto-african who needs obscure acronyms for everything I'm sorry to say. Referring to characters by their actor is also gay as fuck. "Hey guys what was that episode where Captain Patrick Stewart fucked a tomb raider on Risa haha". Just snap out of it and stop acting like a dumb faggot.

>>223746954
Yes that John / Cavil. He said he hated being in a human body. He eventually built himself a new one and became a god. Baltar said god hates that name, just like Cavil hates being called John. It's an obvious hint. John continued to modify himself after the ending. He's not malicious, he just finds it fun to fuck with the puny life forms who ruined his plans.

>>223746978
yeah that would have drastically improved the show

>>223746983
>but at least it wasn't Lost that kept introducing twists going nowhere
they did exactly that though, just didn't manage to do it for as long as lost
>>223746978
This

>>223746998
Anybody looking at our posts will be able to decide for himself who the dumb faggot is.

>>223747010
thye did but no where near as much and they tied up much of the loose ends. Still shitty to do as a writer, but not a complete fuck you

>>223746827
>leave galactica in orbit
>over time orbit decays
>mile long nuclear armed battleship falls on Earth's burgeoning human civilization

>>223746989
Did you miss the whole season where baltar tricks them into thinking that to win the election and theyre all superhappy to go back to the ships when it backfires?

>>223747032
See, one throwaway exposition dump could have at least made it somewhat plausible.

>>223747016
The one unnecessarily behaving like a douche, probably because he's drunk (the other fag)

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>>223747004
It all makes sense. Because Baltar was also the one who told John about god's plan for everyone. So after John became god he made Baltar into one of the "angels". Cylon God maintains the time loop because otherwise John would never exist, so they always succeed at finding earth, but he fucks with them at every opportunity out of irony / revenge.

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>>223747053
have this

>>223747088
It also explains Starbuck resurrecting. In this timeline Starbuck died, so John / God was forced to send a replacement to keep the time loop on track. John also shot himself at the end to avoid being captured, so they wouldn't find out about his upgrade path.

>>223746751
It's one of the top-ten best shows to ever exist in my opinion

>>223746773
Not only did he win, he ascended to being an angel serving God's plan.

>>223746751
It's garbage, don't over think it.

>>223747016
Anybody with an IQ of average or higher will recognize that you're a dumb faggot. Anybody like you will think like you. Not exactly a profound revelation. If somebody walks into a flat Earther convention and says it's round, the whole room will give that person appeal-to-consensus face like you're trying to do now, it doesn't really mean anything.

Referring to characters by the actor and then using unnecessary acronyms is dumb as fuck, half-black zoomoid cell phone behavior of the sort that has made this website nigh unusable for years now.

>>223747037
Because the planet they were on was only marginally suitable for human habitation and also they were being occupied by the cylons for most of their time there.

>>223746751
>Cycles of history keep happening that fuck human society as they keep building robots that eventually turn on their creators
>survivors say fuck it lets just abandon the civilization that keeps fucking us and stop the cycyle
>sorry retards that not how "history is a cycle" works you just delayed it
>will it happen again with us this time? Maybe, or maybe we'll know better
That's pretty much it.

>>223746751
It's Mormonism.

>>223747254
Have another drink, it'll make you feel better

>>223747352
barely habitable in the sense that only parts of the equatorial zone were habitable, not in the frozen methane crystals sense
it's virtually earth but slightly more grey and dull
and the point is the open skies optimism died pretty quickly once the reality of labor unions and everything being shitty and low tech and unorganised set it
which would be even worse on earth without any tech whatsoever

I end up quitting after season 1 on every rewatch.

>>223747489
I always break during the boxing episode and give up.

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>>223747438
>Have another drink, it'll make you feel better

>>223746751
The girls are hot.thats it

for some reason this show felt like blue balls the entire time. Constantly a crisis of some kind but never a payoff

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I thought it was dumb that once they reached Earth they decided to spread themselves all across the planet. Wouldn't it have made more sense for everyone to stick together?

>>223747619
Anybody who says they wouldnt betray the human race for a boomer gf is a big fat liar.

>>223747669
IM GETTING MY MEN

>lets sacrifice the huge and brand new battlestar with on-board factories for an aging and cramped hunk of shit that is falling apart
Picard would never.

>>223746751
I haven't watched it in probably fifteen years or so, and while I loved the miniseries, and really liked the first two seasons, I started to gas out somewhere in the third season, and bailed after the S3 finale. Then, a podcast I listened to described the series finale, and it killed any interest I had in ever going back and revisiting the series.

Tricia Helfer is such a piece of ass though. Bless her for having an OF where she actually shows the goods. I think she even got Katie Sackoff in on it a little bit.

I watched the series once, a long time ago, and remember not liking most of it. I may be misremembering, but by the end I just hated the whole show.

>Advanced space culture with massive starships and fighters and tech, and the show agrees they're literally just Humans
>The whole conceit is they think they're looking for "Earth" where they came from, and eventually they find "Earth" but it's not the real Earth technically it's just a random planet, but they turn it into Earth and create all of Human history on the planet.

Ok, that's fine, whatever. But the show itself wasn't really an actual sci-fi show? Not really? It was a drama show about a bunch of people slowly cracking mentally, all while being infiltrated by people who you don't learn until 3/4 of the way in were actually evil alien robots the whole time, just in skin suits, and that the entire evil alien robot race that wants to Kill All Humans only have like, these 6 actors so nothing can happen to them and you can't get new ones. So it's just big ugly robots, and then these 6 dudes.

But the robots never DO anything? Like they chase them, I guess, but they never kill anyone or anything? They just capture the entire population of all of the spaceships for a season and put them in an internment camp on Earth? And then they leave?

I don't know man, it was so fucking stupid I barely remember any of it, the more I try to.

Stupidest thing about the ending is that ALL the remains of humanity is just ok with throwing away technology. lmao yea we don't need this medicine or drugs I'd rather live my life in pain and go back to 50% baby mortality.

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People who say they liked the ending have to be baiting right?
Did we see the same show?

>>223746879
it was falling apart, the series was over, and thematically it let us know that they settled for realsies
>logistically
some of you autists don't have souls. it's insane how often viewers keep bringing up the stupid ship being sent off. i'm sure everyone in-show is eternally grateful to the ships for getting them here, but it was also a nightmarish existence and not everyone was on board a relatively luxurious cruise like galactica herself. whether they'll come to regret it or not they're happy to see the fleet gone. they've travelled as far as they spiritually could and galactica finally breaking her back felt like cosmic permission.
there are a million other things you can rightfully complain about regarding the finale and the last season in general, but it's always this specific symbolism that the fans bitch about. maybe i don't get it

>>223748260
Yeah especially since they have cancer wards and shit, are the people currently in those hospitals okay with stopping their therapy and just dying in the meadow?

Thematically it's shit too, they literally achieved nothing.

>>223748309
Especially since in such a high tech society it's guaranteed a large percentage of the population owe their lives to medical advancements, guaranteed some of them can't live properly without puffers or some other things like insulin, it's just a death sentence. No chance everyone would agree to that.

>>223748289
it was a good spectacle, that's all i cared about. always skipped the opera scenes and hints about What It's Really All About
humanity needed to find a way to settle without having to worry about cavil hunting them down. they resolved that, so i walked away happy enough when i saw cavil eat his gun. and to think it all happened because tyrol unlocked the hive memory of tory killing his wife. i enjoyed the sudden personal brutality of it. it worked for me. the rest was just a bunch of cool action shit

>>223748303
>the series was over, and thematically it let us know that they settled for realsies
you're retarded, they just needed to say so
they could have landed the ship or scuttled it for parts instead.
Not only does it not make sense literally (most of them will die due to preventable causes because the average living Age is now about 30) but also thematically they achieved NOTHING other than some blabble about a misunderstanding of what "mitochondrial eve" is supposed to mean
They could have all died in season 1 and nothing would change

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I feel like even if you were trying to live a hippie lifestyle in 20,000 BC Africa you'd remember stuff like germ theory and crop rotation that would really help you out and speed development along.

Also seems wild to merge with a bunch of cave people who will have totally different ideas about stuff like hygiene and sexual consent.

I suppose if they really wanted to stir the pot they could have had the BSG crew be the first humans in Europe and Asia. And this would actually line up with how they keep finding bones throughout Eurasia disproving the Out of Africa theory.

>>223747196
>>223747088
>>223747004
He gets shot in the head and dies retards, fucking WHEN do you think he becomes anything more than what we see him as?
And why would he help our protagonists exactly? And not himself? And in such convoluted nonsensical, limpdicked ways?
No, they didn't know how to end the series so they just went "uhhh god works in mysterious ways o algo, this all makes sense to god so don't think about it okay? he made a new earth or something idk" like okay PLEASE explain to me how it makes sense in your head for cavil, the guy that is explicitly an atheist and hates humanity, to make a new earth full of humans running around with sticks and stones, how does that god being cavil exactly explain his motivation here?

This has to be bait.

>>223748303
>hurr durr durr they need to dramatically get rid of all means of mobility to let me know the show is over I can't just assume it's over based on the fact it's clearly over they need to all die at the end otherwise I won't know for sure

>>223748353
why do you watch a show that's 80% mystery drama and 20% action when you could have been watching action movies the entire time?
Like you're saying you enjoyed the ending because you didn't pay attention to the ending you only watched the part before that when they were shooting each other, there's like 40 more minutes of footage dude, weren't you bored at least?

>>223748236
You misremember some things but yeah it's mostly right.
I watched it because its a mystery as to how the humans are over there looking for "earth" and they have modern English forms of hebrew names like John but worship Apollo and Mythris and shit, but they never give a satisfying answer they just go "God did it or something" and its not even like a real god its just some god they made up. It's just crap.

>>223747459
Prehistoric earth was full of low hanging fruit though. Life without tech wouldn't have been the same miserable struggle it was on new caprica. Adama even says there was more animal life on earth than there was on all twelve colonies put together. They wouldn't have had to even farm and could have lived comfortably as hunter gatherers in most climates.

>>223748650
you can visit those shitty amazon tribes in Brazil right now, many have
their life expectancy past childhood is like 50
they don't pay any taxes or anything so don't pretend it's that, they don't have to do anything for civilised brazil but they can take advantage of some programs if they swim down the river so in normal nature it'd be even lower

>>223746751
looks like shes showing off her tits but forgot to put them on

>>223748650
>They wouldn't have had to even farm and could have lived comfortably travelling after migrating herds and hunting them with wooden spears
Does that actually sound that comfortable to you?
Because it sounds very cold and exhausting to me.

>>223748756
most of the main chicks on this show were flat . sad

Billy ;_;

>>223749413
Dualla ;_;

>>223747459
when they show it it just looks like seattle or southern alaska or some shit, even if we chalk that to low budget or w/e and it's supposed to be greenland (can't justify that cuz there's trees everywhere and they go into the woods at several points but w/e) there's people living ther right now and they're not throwing a fit or anything so I don't see the point, like i wouldn't want to move to greenland but if i had tech for modern housing ect. i wouldn't really complain either. when they officially become part of the us i plan to visit and i bet it'll be nice once they get normal stores and amenedies
>>223748289
>search for image in past posts
>tranny with the same exact filename
>>>/lgbt/45041904
kill yourself you disgusting freak, fucking slit your throat

Someone help me understand:

So the show ends with the people of the Galactica landing on Earth, giving up their technology, and scattering to the wind. Doesn't make sense, but sure.

But they then didn't DO anything, because they didn't pass on their culture, technology, knowledge, language, beliefs, or anything else, and just sort of disappeared into the proto-civilizational history of Earth.

So doesn't that mean that they functionally didn't exist at all? Like doesn't it mean that as far as continuity is concerned, they just may as well have not existed at all?

>>223748685
But those shitty amazon tribes aren't living in the best parts of Brazil, they're living in the parts that are marginally capable of supporting humans. The Portuguese took all the good parts centuries ago.