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>>223887350he's literally me, where's my redemption arc
> Literal cuck
Majin Vegeta was peak, after that he got downgraded to being Goku's sidekick
>>223888582>downgraded to being Goku's sidekickalways was after earth1 fight
Dragonball totally copied the Chinese wukong myth, and combined it with The Karate Kid powerup idea. The story is just weird and serving the needs of the moment.
>>223888761When did Goku leap across the world to write his name/piss on the great pillars, then leap back only to find out he was in Buddha's palm the whole time?
>>223887350He sounds like an edgy 13 year old
>>223887350It was cope with being the last survivor, at that point mourning them wouldn't accomplish anything nor would letting frieza use it against himIn the end he dedicated his life (up until that point) to revenge and being the prince of all saiyans was a huge part of his identity
>>223888582Majin Vegeta was my best friend's favorite character so I always have a soft spot for him, he's definitely Vegeta at his rawest, truest self. For me it's Future Trunks and Trunks timeline Gohan, where Gohan isn't a bitch. Those are two cool fuckers
>>223888931I also like how sometimes in the arc the animators knew they were cooking, so they randomly animated certain scenes with extra budget, like his smirk after blowing up the stadium
>>223888582>>223888931Bejita is very fun character
>>223887350Please go away
>>223889028Me when I shit in the urinal while staring at the janitor
>>223887350>edgy cuck AND simp
>>223888913No, Vegeta was just a scumbag. He didn't give a single fuck about Raditz and Nappa, and was willing to kill Goku.
>>223889558>cuck AND simpBut enough about Yamucha
>>223888761Must you say this in every thread? What's with people coming here to spam the same comments every time a certain topic comes up? And it's always on the most obvious of observations
>>223887350Go back to /a/
>>223889130Heart and soul of DBZ
>>223888582>Vegeta never wished Nappa back.
>>223890589>Goku never wished Raditz back.
>>223887416Where or why did this meme start?
>>223890602Mindbroken Gokufags.
>>223890600Weren't they brothers?
>>223887350What did Vageta and (sex godess) Bulma talk about or do off screen?
>>223890628Half-brothers!
>>223890628allegedly. completely written out of the series promptly after.
>>223890589>standing blowjob height
>>223888880*a cool edgy 13 year old
>>223890654Raditz is Goku's brothers.
>>223888582>Majin Vegeta was peak>borrowed power>peak KWAB.
>>223890641Whatever it was, Bulma put up with him and he obviously had a soft spot for her. I like to think he was a bit more open to her, when he wasn't training or fighting on screen.
>>223890589they should've kept his hair that way
>Spend chapter after chapter waiting to get a new form just sitting in a field with Elder Kai>Finally time to use it>Immediately lose>Get absorbed>Die>Never relevant again in the story and become Spirit Bomb fuel for Goku alongside other irrelevant characters like #17 and LunchThe fuck? Why did Toriyama hate Gohan so much
>>223890602In the manga it's mentioned that Bulma had 13 children with Yamcha. Only 5 before meeting Vegeta.
>>223892329Gohan was too unpopular, so Akira had to bring Goku back
>>223892329The old man, fat Chink and insectoid Cell were the last moments of brain activity Toriyama had in the series. It should have ended on Frieza, really.
>>223890589>>223890600>nobody ever wished back female saiyans to save the (pureblood) species
>>223892440Bejita didn't want to be a breeding stud. He could have had the whole Earth to himself, like Nappa suggested, but he didn't want his superpowered offspring to overthrow him. That wouldn't have happened if he had some pureblood Saiyan women, but I imagine he'd have felt the same way with them too, not wanting any risk that somebody stronger than him could existIt never got explained why he went ahead and did it anyway, with Bulma of all people
>>223892570>It never got explained why he went ahead and did it anyway, with Bulma of all peopleEvery Saiyan female depicted was some mutt with black hair and shit colored eyes. Bulma was of a better stock than them.
>>223887350nappa is badasspiccolo is badasstao pai pai is BADASS
>>223892570>any risk that somebody stronger than him could existHe lives on the same planet as Goku, how hard can one man cope? Saiyans are kind of stupid, if Frieza hadn't come along they'd have eaten one another eventually. Did they even know how to operate the high technology of the Truffles they conquered? How did the Truffles even develop if they cohabitated with Saiyans who turned into king kongs every few weeks? Did they just not do that until way later for some reason? >>223892614Bulma's the richest bitch on Earth and bossed him around in a way he was shocked to discover that he actually liked.
Saiyan women don't even wipe their asses after taking a shit.
>>223892648Saiyan girls don't poop
It’s funny how bad men worship losers and wonder why no one respects to them.
>>223892769Vegeta is a gay bitch just like you. Goku is the chill hero who doesn’t care. Cry about it faggot
This is Kale, the gentle Saiyan. Say something nice about her
>>223888582Do black people really watch this obsessively? https://youtu.be/eUbLCveiKAc
>>223892825I stopped watching after Buu, as I am no longer 12.
>>223892858>protagonist doesn't raise his kids and is always looking for a fightit's a very black/irish show
>>223892825Actually cute design. It's a shame she was created well past the point this franchise was raped and gaped.
Is there a single saiyan that isn't a manlet?
>>223892963Nappa is a mountain of a man, are you blind
>>223892977oh yeah, i forgot about baldie
>>223892999And Turles, who I was never clear on why he looks like Goku. Also Bardock's bro was a tall guy.
>>223892329
Grow up.
>>223893119I've never heard of any of these characters or seen them. It must be non-canon movie/Super shit
>>223893141>he never watched Bardock: Father of Goku>he never watched Tree of MightI bet you haven't even watched History of Trunks, you casual scum.
>>223892963Bejita looks cool when he's small, but he's the most powerful guy in the room. Toriyama was fond of this, that everybody else was huge, but there was that one little guy who was deceptively strong. He did it a few times in the series. Bejita, Freeza, Kid Buu, Gohan, even Goku at the start when he was a kid. The problem is when the short guy isn't that strong and the big guys are stronger than him. And when the little guy is getting his ass kicked by the big guy, then it just looks like slapping a toddler. This happens to Bejita a lot, since he long since lost his throne as the strongest guy around
>>223892329Toriyama wanted to bring DB back to wacky hijinks with the Great Saiyaman arc but the fans wanted fights back, so he took out his anger on Gohan. Same reason why Goten+Trunks are silly fucks even when the fate of the planet is on the line.
>>223893139Just grow up? They started filtering your spam faggot?
>>223887350I dont like him but yes it is based.
>>223888859korins tower arc
>>223887350Vegeta is so boring after he turns good
>>223888582Majin vegeta wasn’t peak vegeta
>>223887350>being a nihilistic shitstain is... le based!
>>223889130
>>223893141>he doesn't know BardockI bet you don't know any of these chads.
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>>223888582Terrible. This was just Toei jerking these two off. In the manga, it wasn't even a focus. Goku wasn't smirking and enjoying the battle. He was tolerating it because Bejita didn't give him a choice, since he was having a melty and murdering civies until he got his way. And Goku only put up with it for so long before he had enough and told Bejita to stop because Majin Buu was going to be awakened and he could feel how powerful he wasPeak Bejita was Supa Bejita
>>223888582>peakit's not even top 3>VvG>scheming on Namek before he was officially an ally>Final Flash>fucking Android 19Majin V is actually always been weird to me, borrowed powers, like another anon said, and just in general being manipulated to fight Goku makes the entire fight underwhelmingThis is a man with a wife and kid on Earth now, it's shameful for him to basically be hypnotized into doing all this because he once sought power. Basically character assassination. It's sad that Vegeta fans are so desperate for a fight he doesn't get his ass kicked in that they love this moment so much
>>223894997I'd argue Trunks wasn't kneeling, he was begging, since he knew Bills could easily body Brack if he wanted to and that was the name of the game
>>223892329>hey tori, we got a problem, for this final arc, there's like thirty World Breakers on the heroes side, how can the enemies possibly compete?The final villain will... no diff everyone and absorb themI mean it's just fucking stupid, it's like if the final villain was a plant monster from a monster of the week type show, it's so ridiculous. All the characters just make a weird face and get absorbed, because it's convenient for the story.>no but, gastrointestinally, power level wise, how does that work? some of these guys are starting to affect the planet's gravity with the density of their fucking power levelThe enemy is...magic too, it's magic, don't worry about it
>>223888582>peak>mindraped by a bug and trolled into killing himself for nothingDo Bejita fans really?
>>223895291If Bejita's suicide killed Buu, he would be stuck in hell. He won by losing.
>literal fate of the world is in his hands>I CAN'T DO IT GUYS I JUST CAN'T DO IT! SHE KISSED ME ON THE CHEEK ONCE AS AN OBVIOUS JEST BECAUSE OF HOW WEAK I AM AND NOW I'M IN LOVE!imagine being this much of a retarded no-pussy-getting simp
>>223895802But he was literally correct and won a hot blonde wife because of it. Cope.
>>223895143>This is a man with a wife and kid on Earth now, it's shameful for him to basically be hypnotized into doing all this because he once sought power. Basically character assassination. It's sad that Vegeta fans are so desperate for a fight he doesn't get his ass kicked in that they love this moment so muchPeople love Bejita for the same reason Darth Vader is everyone's favorite character in Star Wars (except Vader is tall and Bejita is a Saiyajinlet).
>>223895802It worked though, didn't it
ENTER CHADREN
Bejita...
>>223895143Toriyama's narrative reason why Bejita gave up and just took power where he could, was when he caught a quick glimpse of Goku's true power, when Goku was fighting that light eating monster in Babidi's ship. Bejita had trained non-stop for seven years, according to Bulma. He worked really hard, even got himself a family like Goku did, so he had something to protect. By all accounts, he should be on par with Goku at the very least by now. Bejita thought so himself, which was why he was so eager for that fight with Goku at the tournament. He thought it would be a pretty good battle and he may actually win itWhen Bejita saw that fight with Goku powering up to overwhelm the monster though, that's when he realized that the power gap between him and Goku was like a chasm. There was no possible way for him to close it by any normal means, so that only left taking power from some other source to bolster his own. Also, by this point in the story, SSJ3 wasn't even a thing yet, so the power Bejita was sensing from Goku wasn't even the new form, it was just Goku being absurdly powerful, but with the same tools Bejita hadThe battle between them wasn't meant to be a grand fight, which is why Toriyama spent only a handful of panels on it. The dialogue between Bejita and Goku was really the meat and potatoes of it, then Bejita going off to die. If Toriyama just left that send-off alone, it would have been fine, but then his sacrifice didn't even kill Majin Buu, then he brought Bejita back, then Toei pushed him to bring the rivalry back with Bejita constantly trying to get stronger later, despite Bejita admitting it wasn't possible for him to overcome Goku
>>223893258I liked Saiyaman. The Urkels beat me up for it but I did.
I can’t even imagine how brown or autistic you have to be to enjoy watching dragon ball
>>223896538What anime do white functional people watch?
>>223896568Rule #1 It has to make me want to undergo hormone replacement therapy (and succeed)
>>223896568>anime>white and functionalLmao. I mean the closest one is probably FMA as far as shonen cringe goes. And Berserk is quintessential 16 year old angst. I’ll give that a pass too.Hentai is alright tho. As long as there’s no freakshow kinks like scat futa giantess vore monstergirl etc
>>223892825BUILT FOR holding hands.
>>223896568BoJack Horseman and Disney Pixar stuff for their family. No wonder white culture is dying.
>>223888761>ching chong ching chongOk Chang
>>223896633>Dragon Ball bad>FMA good>Hentai good>Freakshow kinks badWhat are you even doing on this website, retard?
>>223888582Wrong. Majin Bejita was a mindraped bitch. At least say Supa Bejita was peak. And Bejita accepted that Goku was his better.
>>223897282Goku's biggest cheerleader.....
>>223897282>Having friends and family and the power of friendship and so-on doesn't actually give birth to an absolute power you can use to cudgel your enemies with>Power alone is power and you either have it or you don'tHow come this revelation of Bejita's didn't carry into Super? The whole plot at the end of the Tournament of Power was Jiren, who had total and seemingly unbeatable power, had to learn that "well ackchyually ... the power of friendship is stronger". Jiren's whole life was lived with the correct understanding that "power is everything", which was exactly what Bejita learned at the end of the mangaHaving a slutty wife and a bastard child doesn't give you miracle power to overthrow somebody who is beating the shit out of you because they have natural talents and grinded to level 99
>>223897747Toriyama developed alzheimers.
>Toriama dies>DB continues to get RAPEDworst timeline.
>>223897925Even when Toriyama was alive, things weren't too much better. Daima was ultra shit and Toriyama's old editor, Kazuhiko Torishima, came forward to talk about how it was just trash and brought nothing compelling into the seriesThe longer the series goes, the more it is clear that unless you have somebody whipping the retards, especially the "how about more hair colors to sell toys?" ones, then the story will always fall apart
>>223897925Toriyama didn't care about Dragon Ball and neither should you.
>>223896533Saiyaman slice-of-Gohan was pretty nice and Toriyama would have liked to keep making it, but the problem was, the target audience at the time wanted more tournaments and more world ending threats to be overcome. They didn't want Gohan's high school romance and school related fitting in issuesEventually Toriyama realized this and just brought Goku back out of nowhere, in a conversation between Gohan and Bejita, talking about going to the new tournament together. It would have actually been really neat to see Gohan spending more time with Bejita, as a sort of replacement father figure, to add to his collection of replacement father figures alongside Piccolo Jr. Bejita wanted to fight Gohan in the tournament, so that would have given them a lot of time to talk along the way. Wasted opportunity in favor of more waku waku
>>223890589>>223890600>they never wished back the Namekians Vegeta massacredThat was fucked up. Nappa and Raditz were evil so they deserved to stay dead.
>>223895802Killing ultimately made the right choice idk what you're on about
>>223897282>mindrapedSpopovich and what's his name or dabura were mind raped bitches but Vegetable was always in control and actively defied any attempts by Bishibosh to exert his influence.
>>223897925Toriyama made shitper and daipa
>>223892614blue haired ones existed>>223892634yeah that tuffle aspect always confused me
>>223892705what do they do then
>>223887350But what's his best move?
>>223892614>marry an Ecuadorian woman with black hair and brown eyes>I have dirty blonde hair and green eyes>both kids have black hair and brown eyesFeels good man
>>223899900final flash is cool, but he spends an hour charging it for his opponent to side step 5 feet and dodge it
>>223897925>>223898140maybe now that hes dead things might actually become better
>>223900005Couldn't Freeza, Kid Buu and nearly half of all of the movie bosses, just sidestep Goku's Spirit Bomb too? Big charge-up plot beams, you need somebody to stall to land it, or tease the boss so they don't move
>>223900084Freeza and Buu both tried to deflect the Spirit Bombs instead of dodging them, but yeah. The bad guys need to be too distracted or too arrogant. In Vegemite's defense, Final Flash was almost too fast for Cell to dodge it.
>>223890600After we learned of Bardock's wish on the Cerealian dragon in the Granolah arc, it makes me think we will see Raditz again.
>>223899787Utter headcanon babble. Bejita was 100% mindraped by that bug same as Spopobitch.
>>223899900Weep-no-jitsu
>>223900391I guess you're right if you ignore the specific instances where bibi tried to order Vegeta around and then got told to fuck off.
>>223894454I'll show you
>>223900640Was Recoome a human?
>>223900676I don't think any of the Ginyu Force or even Freeza has an origin. They're mutants with abnormal power levels, from various places in the universe, compiled together
>>223899875It's like the thunderdome in there, only2 men enter, no man leaves
>>223897091>television and film>outdoors>animals and nature>photography>auto>video games>literature >50 other boards that have absolutely nothing to do with weebshit4chan was created for porn. Weebs are perverts so naturally they congregate, trying to ruin the website with their cp and other weebshit tendencies
BLAST HOW DID HE GET SO MUCH POWER
>>223901256ATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA
>>223890681No it wasn't, even in Super they are brothers
>>223901449why is she so mean to him?
>>223901473Because he's clearly insecure about his height as opposed to CHADllin
>>223887350Well his parents are dead
It paints me that the reality of a sex tourist trip to universe 6 planet Sadala is increasingly becoming out of reach.It hurts bros
>>223901473he called her a toasterOn a different note it was strange how Bejita seemed like he was actually going to try to help Tien Shin Han in this scene but it was cute how she doesn't let it happen
>>223901523It's over. Toriyama is gone and he did the majority of the sexy female art for Toei because he liked drawing sexy girls. Even if they went to Sadala now, there's nothing to look forward to
Why did Toriyama's artstyle get so much worse as the series progressed?
>>223901574Tien left to just get fucking choked out, eyes bugging, looking at Bejita trying to help him and he can't reach. Being Tien is suffering
>>223901577Macki a cute
>>223888582>>223887350>>223888632not counting whatever stupid shit happens in super, vegeta and goku only fought twice and vegeta won both times
>>223901577Who is the new guy? Toyo?Why can't he draw sexy saiyans?Is he gay?
>>223901615Bejita lost to the power of teamwork in their first fight.>goku had help!You fundamentally don't understand Dragon Ball if you think this devalues Goku's victory. The second fight ends with a shitty sneak attack during a time-out. It literally doesn't count.Neither Bejita nor Toriyama think either of these fights were wins for the B. It's pure cope.
>>223901473Its honestly kind of hot that all the damage can just be healed with the magic bean, bejita got to live out ultimate femdom and was healed before the day was over
>>223901615During Super Hero they fought a third time and Vegeta won again
>>2239016622-0 ;^)
>>223901610Macki is very cute, but Toriyama created her too. Toro just kept drawing her while Toriyama supervised>>223901618I haven't seen any original females drawn by Toyo that Toriyama wasn't already working on or created himself. In fact, I don't think Toyo did anything at all since Toriyama passed away, other than speak at some conventions
>>223901683>lalala can't hear you!Done.
>>223887350Vejobber
>>223890600ugh so fuckin zased. imagine vegeta, raditz, and nail kino instead of gotard and crew
>>223901587That isn't the best comparison but I think the Arale grind that happened before DB came out eventually took its toll by the time DB got around to the final arcs
>>223901688We have no idea what the hell they're doing over there as far as the manga is concerned. The one shot Toyo released last year said To Be Continued at the end, and he left that vague update on his xitter page. Surely they'll bring it back at some point but who knows when.
>>223901722Toriyama's vehicle artwork is criminally underrated and it's one of the many ways his successor can't even come close to competing
>>223901595Tien is a true man and a true hero, even after she passively let him get choked he still was willing to give up his life to save her for the price of nothing at all
>>223901744He made a bunch of cool cars and ships and things for Daima, but Toei didn't know what to do with them. They ended up having Goku ride around in ships that kept breaking down over and over, just to give Toriyama's designs a purpose in the story since they wanted to use them, but it ended up really shitty
>>223901722520 weekly chapters would take a toll on anyone on its own, but yeah people tend to forget that he had other serials before then, too. Plus he was doing doing concept art for all the Dragon Quest games and was one of the lead designers for Chrono Trigger. It's really impressive that he pulled all of that off.>>223901744He was an incredibly talented designer, and that translated to his paneling. You are correct that there's no replacing him. I still want to see Toyo finish it though.
>>223892329Gohan finished his arc in Cell. The story is over for him at that point.Everything else is just beating a dead horse.>>223893258I hate that they wasted Goten and Trunks. They would make for a great father-son duo, Goten and Goku, and Trunks and Vegeta all training with Whis together would be peak.
>>223901763>Most OP talent in the whole series>Can't ever really use it because overuse literally kills youCrane School had a lot of cool techniques
>>223892421>It should have ended on Frieza, really.they never topped that
>>223899775>Killingdumb phoneposter lolbut u are right
>>223901808Solar Flare was originally his, wasn't it? Then everyone else stole it.
>>223901843yup
>>223897747I really wish they hit this point harder.Vegeta's entire character arc in Super is "I must be stronger than Kakarot!" despite having resolved this arc at the end of Z.They should have leaned more on an "I want my family and loved ones to rely on me as much as they do Kakarot", then it becomes less about chasing power levels and learning to become a reliable emotional figure in his family's life, where his evil past can haunt him, keeping his family from ever truly trusting him with their lives.Would have been a peak arc.
>>223901843So was levitation
>>223901854>Mom, is dad gonna get mindraped by a bug again and kill us?>Mmh, we'll just have to wait and see...
>>223901898>Dad told me he blew up a whole planet full of bug people>he kept laughing maniacally too, mom can I blow up a bug planet?
If the rest of the saiyan royal family is dead, why is he still "prince" Vegeta? Wouldn't he be King Vegeta? Isn't Trunks the prince now? Is Bra the princess?
>>223901854not sure where vegeta after z could have gone in like a narratively cohesive wayhe kinda threw everything away to get 1 more shot at kakarotto but then blew it so it was all for naught. he did seem to love his family to some extent but he seemed unsure how much. he had nothing but bittersweetness left at his time of deathafter the dust settled i think he would've become aimless and pretty ashamed over his chimp out, and maybe become a druk or something until the next big bad forced him to give a shit again. maybe at that point he would be allowed to actually be sort of useful despite being weaker, since he would no longer be hampered by his ego and he would just be full of murderous, pragmatic rage like trunks
>>223902026if goku saw this happening he wouldnt help btw
>>223902016He's long since gotten over it, but he was just having melty after melty back in the day
>>223902047She's having fun!
>>223902063>Wowee, that looks like a good fight! Can't wait for my turn! Huh, she's dying? That's okay, we'll just bring her back with the Dragon Balls! Only after I get a chance to be murdered too, of course! Oh man, I'm getting excited!
>>223901880Tien oozes with aura, as the kids would say he has "the drip"
>>223902089say what you will about dragon ball but the characters in this series sure know how to game the rules of the world they're in. it's like the world's worst game of D&D with the player characters still abusing a throwaway gimmick item to deal with every encounter, one that was introduced by the GM 20 years ago as a joke
>>223902041I think they should have tried to give Vegeta the Super Saiyan God ability at the start of Super, and have it fail because he is not pure of heart.And that becomes his moment of "oh shit, I need to fix my life. When the life of my family was on the line, I couldn't do the transformation necessary to fight Beerus."So he spends all of Super trying to be pure of heart.
>>223902130>bring someone back with dragonballs>you can only do it once>do it once>person dies again>go to another planet and use their dragonballsWhat an asspull of a universe. Then god (not king kai who is somehow supergod) dies and takes the dragonballs with him so you just go get another of his kind to make more. Can ALL Namekians make sets of dragonballs if they're trained in how to do it or whatever? Why wasn't Namek lousy with dragonballs, hundreds of dragons granting wishes all the time. Maybe you'd get them mixed up if they all looked the same.
>>223902158>So he spends all of Super trying to be pure of heart.hes already stated to be sort of trying to do that since the cell saga and up until the buu saga, and his frustrations with it is what lead up to him chimping outmaybe he could be barred from becoming super saiyan god because he's a shithead, but at that point i think he would just think "figures" and not think too much of itimo the only thing that could spur vegeta into becoming an actual good person is him hitting rock bottom and having losing his values on account of losing himself. like if he were to see his family as something he would want to keep alive just because it's the right thing to do and not as a ploy to get more powerful, then i think you could take him seriously as a very troubled good guy
>>223895143Holy shit imagine being this filtered
>>223887350Does anyone else really want to see porn of Piccollo fucking Bulma because he was always seen as the black guy of DBZ?
>>223895802This is exactly how simps act irl
>>223901673Also a much more clear cut victory than the previous 2
>>223902113god ki tenshinhan when
>>223902249Kuririn.....
How do we feel about SHITper's character assassination of Goku?
>>223902249Mr Popo is the black
>>223897282>Majin Bejita was a mindrapedHe literally tells Babidi to fuck off when he tries to control him. It’s the best scene in the whole series m
>>223902231Sacrificing his life to kill Buu is definitely a big point, but he literally killed a huge number of innocent people at the Tournament just an hour before. Not really a good stride.>maybe he could be barred from becoming super saiyan god because he's a shithead, but at that point i think he would just think "figures" and not think too much of itIt has to come from Bulma or Trunks. She has to scold him and recoil at his failure, call him unreliable and shame him in front of everyone, and then turn to Goku. That would drive him to be better than Goku, not power-level-wise, but morally and as an emotional rock.That way, you get the same rivalry between Goku and Vegeta, but it is shifted in a way to not be repetitive as Z.
>>223902328i could see a reformed and less retarded vegeta resenting goku not for being stronger, but for not applying his greater strength in sensible ways (and for reminding vegeta of his own retarded behavior in the past that he has since come to regret)
>>223901854Vegeta was raised as a merciless killing machine from a race of merciless killing machines. It makes no sense for him to turn out like Goku in the end relying on the power of friendship and be haunted by the evil he did. He’s totally self absorbed.
>>223902291Bejita got served hard by Jiren, so he's monke-seeing monke-doing what he saw Jiren do in the tournament and that's a shitload of meditating. Goku got his anus hollowed out by Jiren too, so the fact that he doesn't recognize what Bejita is trying to emulate, is really baffling. And he never figures it out either. Bejita has to manually tell him "This is what Jiren was doing, retard."
>>223902445>you cant change your mentality after literally dying multiple times due to your own self-destructive tendenciesThe dude's literally seen himself get mogged multiple times by the guy who relies on friendship constantly. He'd be unbelievably retarded to not learn to shift gears at some point.
>>223902041Nothing after z matters anyways
>>223902158>make vegeta a fagSounds awful.
>>223902211Nigga Japs aren’t monotheists
>>223902488People don’t change
>>223895802You wouldn't get it
>>223902565wrong
>>223902321the best scene is when bejita says goodbye to trunks and sacrifices himself
i miss old db where bejita's hair was actually hair and not rigid spikes sprouting from his head
>>223902291the character assassination of bejita was worse
>>223902565He's already changed so much.
>>223902488>He'd be unbelievably retarded to not learn to shift gears at some point.Well he does, by the end of the manga, anyway. He looks like a family man with no real interest in Goku or fighting with him. He doesn't keep in contact with him, he doesn't talk to him. Bulma has to go out of her way to talk to Goku and that was after seven years. The series ends with Goku flying off with his new pet jeet and Bejita doesn't care. Whatever hang-ups he had, he let go of some time agoToriyama however did add an extra panel at the end of the manga years later, for the 2004 Kanzenban edition of the manga: that has Bejita stewing about becoming stronger than Goku. In the original ending, it was just a goodbye page from Toriyama, but this panel got added on, for whatever reason
Reminder that Tien has a winning record vs Goku
Reminder that Tien has a losing record vs a door
>>223902818To be fair that door was really tough
>>223902818CHADoor.
>>223902818https://youtu.be/EtQ2APt7q4U
>>223903001>literally has to WAIT for the door to ALLOW him to enterKek.
>>223887350our HERO...
>>223903023
>>223903446...'s sidekick.
>>223902691Bulma's fat ass on Namek is her at her best. Namek Bulma is superior to all other Bulmas
Vegeta was the worst characterLike some Pokemon rival he never won shit, always got stomped into the ground yet somehow still acted smug
>>223904432Bejita was so lucky
>>223904561>that genocidal alien retard is just misunderstood... i can fix him...how did toriyama understand women so well?
>>223904432>/tv/ choosing any Bulma other than prime Dragon Ball BulmaThis place has really changed.
Freezer was a beast but his brother is still Cooler.
>>223890589shouldnt have called him a manlet
>>223904571>i can fix him...In defense of women she did good work
>>223887350I relate to vegeta because I'm a balding manlet
>>223905439
>>223887350>I don't care abou-ACK!
>>223905439I had the same hairline as Bejita since I was in elementary school and I related myself to him back then
>>223905727I want naked teen Bulma
>>223905792We know, Roshi.
>decades of technology improvements>for animation to cost more but look worseseriously what the fuck
>>223905891The barrier to entry lowering means you need less talent to get a job. Pisslow wages mean only retards are applying. It all adds up.
>>223894660This looks somehow worse than 30 year old stuff
>>223894660aw hell naw they summoning nigron
>>223905891Best animated episodes of Dragon Ball>DB 144 to 148 (Goku vs Piccolo)>DBZ 005 (Piccolo kills Raditz)>DBZ 030 to 035 (Goku vs Vegeta)>DBZ 064 (Vegeta vs Recoome)>DBZ 081 and 082 (Piccolo vs Freeza)>DBZ 087 (Goku vs Freeza) (Kazuya Hisada)>DBZ 100 to 105 (Super Saiyan Goku vs 100% Freeza)>DBZ 120 (Trunks vs Mecha Freeza) (Shida animated the sword cut scene)>DBZ 148 to 151 (Piccolo vs Android 17 and Android 16 vs Cell)>DBZ 162 (Vegeta Final Flash)>DBZ 164 (Trunks vs Perfect Cell)>DBZ 166 (Goku and Gohan in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber)>DBZ 179 (Super Saiyan Goku vs Perfect Cell)>DBZ 185 (Super Saiyan 2 Gohan) >DBZ 232 (Super Saiyan 2 Goku vs Majin Vegeta)>DBZ 237 (Vegeta Final Atonement)>DBZ 279 (Super Saiyan 2 Goku vs Kid Buu)>DBS 57 (Goku Black) (Shida Naotoshi)>DBS 66 (Vegetto vs Zamasu) (Shida Naotoshi)https://x.com/naoV47/status/797632290532663296>DBS 116 (Goku vs Kefla)>DBS 129, 130 and 131 (Ultra Instinct Goku vs Jiren)>DAIMA 08 (Goku vs Tamagami Number Three)>DAIMA 19 and 20 (Goku and Vegeta vs Gomah)Best animated Dragon Ball movies>M01 Dead Zone>M04 Lord Slug>M05 Cooler's Revenge (Nakatsuru)>M08 Broly >M09 Bojack>M12 Fusion Reborn (Tadayashi Yamamuro)>Path to Power>Super Broly
>>223905792
>>223887350Based Jobgeta. I also love how he was redeemed.
>>223905978
>>223905941That's an ad for gacha game.
>>223887355So. There's this entire thing about villains. It's like... a really important, like super important thing about villains who get a redemption arc.They have to actually... work at it. Like they have to work. They have to work to earn it. By working on themselves. So that they aren't such a horrible rotten shit anymore.And you might notice about Vegeta that where he begins (in the pic in the OP) is not where he ends up. He learns through his redemption arc how much of a weak piece of shit he used to be, and he works to become a better man. And in that process, he begins to care about the planet and his pals and he gains a new understanding of his parents, including how limited and flawed they were which is why he was the way he used to be.Yeah. So. Vegeta might have been "based" in the sense that he was an egotistical piece of shit. But being "based" is not a good basis for any fucking thing.
>>223887350>perpetually angry manlet whose life's purpose is to jobWho the fuck likes this character?
>>223890717Vegeta was canonically 29 or 30 during the Frieza saga there. Which you can see from his extreme widow's peak receded hairline...
>>223906783Other manlets.
>>223906763
>>223906783Vegeta was always an idiot in the manga and acted as an upper class Goku. Even the Saiyan Arc could be avoided if he recruited Nappa, Cui, and Raditz for Namek as opposed to being mini Freiza
>>223888582>Has to give up his soul to reach SS2>Goku still could have ended the fight in 5 seconds if he felt like it>The only thing keeping Vejobta alive was Goku using 1/3 of his power to keep it interesting
>>223888582Vegeta became goku's sidekick halfway through the saiyan saga on namek. Majin vegeta was like the last gasp of him trying to reassert his true nature.
>>223904432>Namek Bulma is superior to all other BulmasI know we all have strong opinions about which Bulma is best but come on now that's a low tier one
>You've stopped taking your meds again, haven't you? We better change that.
>>223907977GIWTWM
>>223899900big bang attack
>>223896538>>223896633will you faggots just fuck off already?
>>223899900the galick ho pose is so retarded
>>223892440If you're already making wishes, why not make things simpler and just wish a couple of the humans to become a Saiyan?
>>223908402Can the dragon trans-species people like that? Can you do it to other people against their will?>Great dragon! I wish Vegeta was a Namekian!
>>223908462Probably would be some half-baked excuse about the dragon not being able to do anything to someone against their will who is more powerful than he is.
>>223887350>me when I'm 13
>>223888582this speechhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5X4Yk5iJ-U
>>223888582>was so mentally buck-broken by Goku and Gohan that he had to sell his soul to match Goku's strength and he was still weakerLmao.
>>223888582>let babidi rape you so you can become a punching bag
>>223905351>"Get angry, Gohan. Get angry, remember what happened when you fought Cell, and call up all the power you possess! If you don't, you can't lose to any kind of guy in the whole world! Any kind of guy, you hear?"Yeah ok, Goku, sure he can't. Also, is it ever clarified if Bejita got his SSJ2 transformation due to Babadi's power, or did he already have it? If he already had it, what sort of power did Babadi's spell give him, other than not feeling bad about mass murdering civilians?
>>223887350are you sure cause later ok you literally cry to Goku begging him to rape freiza for raping your planet
>>223909047Why is he dramatically spitting blood from getting punched in the head? Vomiting blood usually signals internal damage, but here it could only be a broken tooth or something.
>>223905891>CG beams>Shakey cam>Low frame countThis was one of the "better" episodes too, that they brought in the higher paid guys to do and it still looks like shit compared to 90s Bejita
>>223899907based
>>223909174Ignore the fact he's being constricted all over his body..
>>223905519L O L you fiend
>>223909174He's getting his face torn up by punches that he can't block and can't dodge, You probably spit up blood sometimes from getting lazy about brushing your teeth. Imagine how fucked your gums would be if prime Mike Tyson had you on the floor and was repeatedly punching your cheeks from side to side
>>223903001Chaitzou, we need to train.> But Tien remember what the Dr said about your shoulders That's why we don't see him anymore...
>>223903001Is Tien and Chaitzou the most neglected characters in the franchise, save for Lunch? Even in Super, when they had a chance to make up for Toriyama not utilizing him much, they still don't really give him anything to do or any agency. In the Tournament of Power, they just give all the glory to #17, even elevating him up to Goku's power. What the fuck? Why?
I don't get why Latinx argue between Goku, Vegeta and Gohan when they're basically the same looking character with very shallow characters. That's not a bad thing since DBZ is a shonen but it's weird to pick a favorite out of the available options. >>223907695>>223907782>>223907792thanks doc
>>223909513Tien is so intense foids are scared of him.
>>223905792You already had her everyone from west city.
>>223890602I started seeing it after that doujin of Beerus plowing Bulma while Vegeta stands outside the door
>>223890602Bulma's general flirty nature combined with mountains of cuck porn
>>223901473He ruined her clothes
>>223902211There are 2 types of Namekians, ones that fight like Piccolo and ones that make Dragonballs like Dendi
>>223902692Same with the original SSJ Goku where his fair is fluffy
>>223901473manlet
>>223901473it's fun to troll serious people with attitude problems
>>223909174Why do you think athletes in contact sports wear a mouth guard? Your teeth fuck up your mouth when you get hit in the face
>>223905966>Best animated episodes of Dragon Ball>zero Dragon Ball episodes listednah
>tfw no sexually aggressive teen Bulma gf
>>223909389>>223910250I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it doesn't warrant the dramatic slow motion shot when it's probably just mouth damage.
>>223910480He is being pummeled by one of the most powerful beings in the history of the universe anon
>>223909174Your body doesn't like blood in the stomach, you will throw up pretty fast from swallowing blood
>>223893232>The problem is when the short guy isn't that strong and the big guys are stronger than him. And when the little guy is getting his ass kicked by the big guy, then it just looks like slapping a toddlerVidel vs Spopovich was this taken to the max. Just pointlessly mean-spirited.
>>223910627got to establish they're the baddies
>>223910810Naruto run that template into the ground. With the added faggotry of the villain completely changing his views and repenting because of cringy idealistic bullshit the moron hero spouted.
>>223910810This is the Mob Psycho S2 finale to a T.
>>223910810>Nobody can defeat the Power of Friendship™Why is all shounen like this now? It didn't used to be, now it is everywhere, even Dragon Ball. And the one guy, Jiren, who actively denounced it and tried to fight against it, with his own strength that he gained completely alone, was defeated
>>223911324Saint Seiya is older than Dragon Ball and it pulled that shit all the time.
>>223911324trying to encourage otaku to make some friends
>>223905966Path to Power was so great. I wish they had done more in that style.
>>223890314really hate how they ruined him
>>223911401I watched the first season of that some time ago, the Gemini one and I remember this is true. Fights the Saints should have no business winning by any metric, they managed to win by sheer friendship power. It became tiresome, since no matter how absurdly strong 100% Power Freeza became, Mrs. Brief could always whip his ass because she has faith in her daughter and loves her husband and friendship and etc. It made it hard to get excited about any fight because the bottom tier amateur Saint can easily wipe out the Gold Saint by believing in his friendsWhat caused a resurgence of this kind of storytelling to happen again, I'd like to know. It is not compelling at all
>>223911819To be fair, in all the Gold Saint fights the MCs at best managed to tie with suicide moves. Would have even been kino if they didn't revive them.
>>223910810naisuanime when?
>>223912154the manga is superior, casual
>>223889028Hmm.. I think maybe it's the case that a facial expression like that would look weird if it was choppy.
>>223911324Anime/manga is pretty cynical nowadays, i don't remember when was the last time the power of friendship was played straight.
>>223911819Most of the Gold Saint fights were tests for Seiya and crew. Aldy got a horn chopped off and let them through, for example. Virgo faked his death because he thought it was funny. Shun and Hyoga "won" by kamikaze moves. The bullshit one was against Cancer when Shiryu exploded his cosmos' cosmos and somehow trapped Cancer in his own ability. Leo was too op and undefeated.
New balls: >>223913159
