>Stupid Batman suit.>Cringe Bale growl.>Shitty, stiff choreography (but standard for Hollywood).>Soundtrack without any coherent motif or melody (standard for Zimmer).>Shaky camera during action scenes (standard for Hollywood).So, why is The Dark Knight trilogy praised?
the first two reallocated literally every aspect of 9/11 and delivered a catharsis that never happened in real life without being obvious about what it was doing.third one demonized occupy wallstreet so it got a permanent marketing campaign (baneposting)
>>224186511Nolan's Baman sounds stupid, if you highlight only the bad parts of the dark knight trilogy. To understand the hype behind those movies you have to also realize:>those movies focus 100% on the BATMAN and his universe, with no other DC heroes crossing over>great performances by Gary Oldman, Morgan Freeman, Heath Ledger and Aaron Eckhart>improved movie version of Bane and Two-Face, screw uped in the previous iterations>realistic high-effort action scene, when overdoing CGI was all the rage>fairly satifying conclusion in the third movie, the franchise doesn't awkwardly stop due to low ticket sales like Marc Webbs's The Amazing Spider-Man >treats its world and characters seriously, doesn't feel the need to add jokes and fourth wall breaks>I watched these movies in a nice air conditioned theatre with zero minorities
>>224186511I was the target audience for TDK when it came out, and it delivered on everything I wanted from a Batman film that hadn't been done until then.Nowadays the novelty isn't the same, but for 2008 this was pretty innovative stuff. That's also why it got praised by real, non-meme directors. One of the very few cases where this happened at all.
>>224186592you invalidate any point you might've otherwise made by suggesting Nolan's Bane was anything other than a ludicrous, farcical character written and directed by an autistic man who missed the forest for the trees in terms of how ridiculous the material actually was, and portrayed by a man who had no fucking idea what he was supposed to be doing
It was a different time
>>224186640Obviously Bane from Chuck Dixon's comics is better, but Nolanverse version still beats the 1997 movie version. So it is an improvement when it comes to movie portrayal of the character
>>224186511because zoomers thought dark knight was the bestest movie ever when they watched it as 10 year olds
>>224186666whatever, satan
>>224186661>but Nolanverse version still beats the 1997 movie version. So it is an improvement when it comes to movie portrayal of the characterI would plainly disagree. It's a lateral move, if anything.The Schumacher one could more convincingly kick Batman's ass, for example, and his mask looked better because it wasn't a weird, impractical piece of nonsense designed under the direction of "This character absolutely cannot wear a luchador mask but whatever he does wear should evoke the feeling of the comic version even if makes LESS sense and looks DUMBER than a luchador mask"
>>224186592>high-effort action scen
>>224186666To play the Devil's advocate, it does work better as a gateway into real film than most other versions of Batman, especially the ones from the 90s.
>>224186640>>224186661Arkham Origins has the best version of Bane (before he gets brain damage at the end)
Should've cast Hathaway as Rachel. Hard to believe the two biggest Chads in Gotham were vying for Saggy Gyllenhaal.
>>224186822they should've not had rachel in either fucking movie, she added nothing and is a symptom of the bad autism Nolan hasMichael Mann has the same strain, believing he needs to put perfunctory female characters in his movies, when all they do is act poorly and distract from the interesting elements of the story
>>224186592>realistic high-effort action scene
>>224186759>>224186871Yeah, there are good action scenes in the Dark Knight trilogy. You're just disagreeing with me for the hipster points
>>224186904>Yeah, there are good action scenes in the Dark Knight trilogyThe bar is pretty low for you, isn't it? Tell me you've never watched a single film outside of America, without telling me you've never watched a single film outside of America. Holy shit. Absolute fucking SMOOTHBRAIN.
>>224186904There are good action scenes. All of them involve cars.Any of the other action scenes are terrible and decidedly LOW effort, almost by design because Nolan seems to have a pathological disdain for fight choreography.
>>224186511There are 15+ year old video essays detailing why dark knight is a mess, nobody cared until Helen of Detroit and Troonchilles
>>224186561fpbp and it's gone under the radarNolan made a trilogy of George W Bush-apologetics and retarded American dipshits gobbled it up
>>22418666197 Bane was a foreign wrestler who couldn't speak English or act and didn't have any significant role in the plotcriticising him as a villain is like criticising the Scarecrow for being a shit villain in Dark Knight Risesyeah obviously, he's not the focus you thick retard
>>224186836which Michael Mann films are you referring to?Blackhat is the only one where that is a problem
>>224186801True. I haven't watched pic related yet, but I'm guessing it's also pretty good if it's close to the original story.
>>224187078heat and miami vice would be improved without any significant female characters
>>224187069damn, you can't say ANYTHING on 4chan. Even the most non-controversial take like "bane from batman and robin was subpar" is met with this weird anger and disdain
>>224187133obviously it was possible for them to make Bane a minor villain and not suck. BUt they screwed up
I liked this series
>>224187097Gong Li is good in Miami Vice
>>224187133do you sperg out that Sal Maroni is a bad villain in The Dark Knight?
>>224187242not really. Maybe I do have pro-nolan bias,idk
>>224186625I think the novelty was a lot of it. With every later rewatch it starts to feel more and more stiff to me. BB really was the most cohesive and polished one.
Heath Ledger dying played a huge part.
>>224188048>ummm did you seriously just do a heckin racismerino my dude???Go the fuck back.
>>224188048The only truth in this world is Racism(TM)
Everyone needs to apologize to Schumacher. His Gotham looked great, his characters were fun. Batman Forever is the greatest Batman film ever made. Even Freeze’s look is incredible in B&R.
>>224189018Camp, dumb fun, comic book kino.
>>224186511>dude what if BATMAN but REALISTICThe fuel has already run out in TDK, TDKR was a mistake.
Any attempt at making a "realistic" superhero movie is an idiotic idea. No wonder Nolan came up with it.It's a superhero movie. What the fuck are you going to do with it? Batman getting detained for domestic terrorism? Bat car getting stuck in a traffic jam?
>>224189413>Any attempt at making a "realistic" superhero movie is an idiotic idea. No wonder Nolan came up with it.Tbf Frank Miller already had tried to make realistic version of Batman in Year One from 1986. almost 20 years before Batman Begins
>>224189482It was a pseudo- realism (not quite realistic but fitting the depicted world), since Batman uses sci- fi gadgets, not so different from DC comics published in 1980s.It wasn't>batman equipment is just some super expensive military tech painted black>that immortal guy hires lots and lots of body doubles>Gotham is ChicagoetcBatman Begins was sort- of OK though
Did Nolan do irreversible damage to the Batmobile design or was it needed?Practically every Batman movie/game now follows that tumbler thing.
The fight sequences are laughable compared to Pattinson and Affleck.Nolan can't direct fight scenes for shit.
>>224186511>capeshit is goodkek
dark knight is one of the single most overrated movies of all time>harvey dent stuff boring>hong kong stuff boring>maggie ugly as fuck
>>224189413In fairness Batman is the easiest to do this with since he is a normal man and a masked vigilante. That isn't too far fetched. What is far fetched that is that this ruthless justice addicted Judge Dredd personality would have a sissy "no kill" rule. What we haven't seen yet in the Batman world is a director ready to make the R rated Batman as a slasher flick.
>>224187095>haven't watched pic related yetI have, it's kino
>>224189658>a sissy "no kill" ruleBatman is cucked on purpose, for obvious reasons. Snyder tried to push it a bit and the results weren't amazing.
>>224189658>a sissy "no kill" ruleI personally like the Mike W Barr's version of Batman, where he doesn't actively try to kill criminals, but he doesn't feel bad, when something bad happens to them
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>>224189658>What we haven't seen yet in the Batman world is a director ready to make the R rated Batman as a slasher flickOh great, another shitlennial subhuman chiming in with his completely original take, ""improving"" on something that was around for decades before your plague graced us with your presence.
>>224190372funny thing is people would still complain, if they did that. That was the main issue people had with Ben Affleck Batman. That he kills too much. Anyone remember that?
