Thread for Tamsyn Muir's Locked Tomb series, Gideon the Ninth, Harrow the Ninth, Nona the Ninth. Post fanart and discuss the books
Kicking off with the latest comic by our lord and savior naomi: the soup scene
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>>4139322Still waiting for it to finish before I read it.
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Sorry, but I'm not going to read 24 books before they get to the yuri.
Alecto is supposed to come out this year, right?
>>4139458I wanted to make a "coming out" pun but couldn't come up with anything funny. Just thought I'd let you know.
Doesn't look like there are too many aficionados on /u/, so would OP mind telling us what this is, how gay it is and why we should rush off to read it?
Best ship coming through!
>>4139472Appreciate the thought nevertheless
>>4139477>what is thisStory about lesbian necromancers in a grimdark Warhammer-like universe>is it gayIt is very gay, but no explicit sex scene or such has happened yet. Read it now. And listen to the audiobook read by a sexy British woman. It got deleted from Youtube but here is a torrent if you want thatmagnet:?xt=urn:btih:e89f7da1ad506a6eb404b6e0fbd9cbc937b85365&dn=The%20Locked%20Tomb%20Audiobooks
>>4139477I've only read the first book and I don't intend to read more as the grimderp w40k stuff wasn't for me but it was pretty gay in a subtext way.I enjoy the fanfiction it spawns though as the characters are hot and fanfic focuses more on romance.
>>4139477It's the pinnacle of the sapphic fantasy genre, the tagline on the cover is literally lesbian necromancers in space. It's gay like madoka is gay, ie. obviously gay but no explicit sex scenes or romance yet. But you don't read it for the romance, it's also just an absolutely incredible sci-fi/fantasy series, intricately and brilliantly plotted with punchy dialogue that's absolutely hilarious and some of the most likable and memorable characters in the genre. It's not just a lesbian book, it's an amazing sff book that on top of being excellent also has lesbians to make it even better.
Most iconic Harrow fan art. Her determined expression on that sharp little face and her stick-like physique radiate pure confidence and peak feminine perfection.
>>4139866Still disappointed that this scene was so short in the book. The weird hand scene (the first one, after Harrow wakes up on the ship) was really hot, I was looking forward to even more sexy gore in graphic detail.
>>4139611>It's gay like madoka is gayNah, it's more gayer than Madoka. For one, there're acutal confirmed lesbians in TLT who UNAMBIGUOUSLY are attracted to/in love with and/or lust after women, unlike in madoka.Everything else is spot on.
>>4139903Being able to appreciate the eroticism of that bone arm scene is how I know I'm ruined by this series. I want Harrow to do that to meI love the way Moira Quirk reads that part in the audiobook too, she makes it sound downright lewd, bordering on obscene
>>4140031Also later on when it's described as, literally "the sheer animal pleasure of Ianthe's arm". Kek.
I finished reading Nona today. Space Gaza was a little weird but We Suffer and Pash were cool. Too bad about Cam. She was probably my favorite het character. I guess I'll read Princess Floralinda and her other books while I wait for Alecto to come out.
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Anyone who doesn't know this might be the gayest books you can get your filthy little lesbian mitts on. Sub text and NOT sub text, longing, denial... Impossible love?! Nun porn? Ladies and their love for swords. And Bones .... They fucking do Bones. And the real secret... All the while on the meta level your actually getting romanced by the author her self...That's right the book is actually a cover/medium for taysmin to seduce YOU the entire time. She's showing you she gets it and that she wants you but only after she makes you want her. Not only are get books a mind fuck if you read more than one... She's literally fucking your mind! Why do you think there's so much fan art?!!!! Honestly respect.
>>4140992Meant this fuck
>>4140992>Why do you think there's so much fan art?!!!!Lack of payoff.
>>4140999There won't be a payoff because the author has zero concept of romance.
>>4141328>the author has zero concept of romance.Something something, what did you expect from a "lesbian" who is literally married to a guy.
>>4141336They're moirails aka bffs. It's a Homestuck thing.
Really haven't seen much good fanart for TLT, but it might have the highest-quality fanfic community I have ever encountered.
>>4141443Recommendations? I never read any fanfic before but I'm getting desperate waiting for Alecto
>>4141692If I made a list it would have dozens of quality longfics alone, seriously. You should explore the offerings on ao3, but here's a few off the top of my head:(short)https://archiveofourown.org/works/27157391/chapters/66323366(Moby Dick AU, amazing)https://archiveofourown.org/works/29598732(second-person in the style of HtN, somehow amazing)https://archiveofourown.org/works/45260908/chapters/113866258
>>4141361Most people are content with bracelets.
>>4141361I don't care who she marries, but a Homestuck fanfic writer?
>>4141893she wrote nonce rape fics with her classics professor husband. it was a big drama when gideon released
>>4141931Her upsetting normalfags only makes me like her more, even if it was with nonce rape fics.
>>4141948Trying too hard.
Any Gideon x Dulcinea recs? Sickly hot chicks are my jam and their sexual tension was unreal.
>>4141951What?
>>4141955>woah, she wrote het pedo fanfic? wtf I love her even more now! h-haha, stick it to those normiesYou are trying too hard.
>>4141957That was my honest opinion, not an attempt to posture.
>>4141973This, honestly.
>>4141973You should probably just leave 4chan if you have a problem with pedo stories.
>>4139322The greatest ship of all time. I can't wait for their reunion!
>>4141931Let those of us who were never autistic cringelords online cast the first stone. You can't judge people for their ancient internet behavior, I'm sure if someone pulled all the autistic shit I posted on 4chan as a teenager I'd be cooked. People have always posted retarded shit that they wouldn't stand by, just now it's all archived to be dug up years later and thrown back in your face.I personally feel fortunate that I got into 4chan as a kid instead of tumblr or reddit so at least mine was all anonymous and lost to the sands of time so it can't be dredged up by some schizo now to attack me with.
>>4141995That's a man. There is a massive problem with artists drawing Gideon as a literal man in this fandom.
>>4142016>can't criticize the current behaviour because "that's moralfaggotry reeeee normies fuck off!">can't criticize the past behaviour because "it's all ancient history so who cares, you schizo!"Oh, the wise one, when are we allowed to criticize one's behaviour according to you, then?
>>4142417One hair on Tamsyn Muir's head has more value than your entire life, pleb.
>>4142421>blah blah blahI see.
Glad to see the the fans are civilized.
>>4142417What's the criticism of her current behavior? Being straight? A lot of the most classic yuri works are written by married women.Also this >>4142421
>>4142140That's kinda true. Harrow describes Gideon's arms as slender but strong. What does the fandom draw? A literal bulky man.
>>4142542Hot
>>4140514>Too many artists draw her like a redhead stick.They're fake fans, so their opinion is invalid.
>>4142803I like her with like rock climber build vs body builder. Obviously strong and muscular but still with a feminine shape not literally drawn like a man. Like how she is on her cover art is perfect.
>>4142803>>4142847Post yuri or fuck off.
>>4141840That whale AU is phenomenally written. Author really captures the style and tension of the books. Not a griddlehark shipper but poetic as fuck
>>4142847Body builder style isn't even the issue, real-life female body builders still clearly look like women. It's just that all these amateur artists have never studied anatomy and are incapable of depicting a character with muscles as anything other than male.
>>4142847>how she is on her cover art is perfect.A feminine stick with less muscles than a toddler? No, thank you. That hack of an artist really dropped the ball hard on the cover art.
>>4143026I actually took some HEMA classes because of TLT, it turns out you don't really need a lot of muscle to use and be effective with a big, two-handed sword. It's more about using the way your hands are placed on the hilt to lever the sword around. The instructor was a fairly skinny older woman who was doing some impressive stuff. It's also not realistic for Gideon to be a hulk when she's spent her whole life chronically under-fed.
>>4143026>>4143029It also just occurred to me that Gideon is described as doing a lot of bodyweight exercises when she trains (push-ups, pull-ups, crunches). Bodyweight exercises mainly build muscle endurance, not muscle size.
>>4143029>>4143031>"um, akshually...">the "Abby" argumentNo need to guess who's behind these posts.
>>4143044Forgot the pic
>>4143031Dulcinea calls her biceps "huge or enormous" so buff Griddle is canon
>>4143049It was Jeannemary's remark, I think. But the point still stands.
>>4143011Yeah desu this, it's not the musculature that's the problem, she's supposed to be jacked, its the skeletal anatomy like they draw her like he-man instead of like she hulk. But like she's not that tall or large in stature canonically she's an underfed slightly above average height woman, she's short compared to Corona who we know is like 6 foot so Gideon is probably like 5'8 at best, and seems to be weaker than Pro an Babs but more agile and faster, so she's not gonna be a giant. But yet artists always draw her as this massive brick with a ribcage like a barrel and no tits and verging on 6'4. It seems they only know how to draw anime where the two archetypes are skinny small Asian girl and gigantic shounen protagonist, instead of drawing a realistic buff woman.
Wait a sec, this isn't animu.
>>4143104>yet artists always draw her as this massive brick with a ribcage like a barrel and no tits and verging on 6'4.God bless those artists. Women like that are amazing and should be represented more.>oooh, I just really care about "accurate" representation of muscular women, I'm not an incel even if my talking points are the same, trust me, sisYour concern trolling ain't fooling no one, btw.
>>4143244Yes it is, shush
>>4143246>god bless artists who appeal to my fetish>accurate representations of women are badYour post is significantly more aligned with incel talking points than anon's, honestly.
>>4143257>tries to flip the tables>fails miserably>exposes himself as an incel in the processI don't mind watching you punch yourself, tho.
>>4143260>second post offering no actual counter-point and projecting about incelsI'm sure if you keep trying it'll work eventually.
>>4143246I mean it's whatever it's not like it bothers me or anything everyone has their taste, but don't pretend like it's because it's canonically accurate and not just because you personally like it. Me I prefer my women to have feminine features and not be built like men cause you know I'm a lesbian? But that's just me tho you do you. Strong sporty women are hot asf, Miho Nonaka could probably snap me in half she is jacked and has gigantic biceps and back muscles but she still looks feminine, and Gideon would probably have a similar build since bouldering and sword fighting use similar muscles.
>>4143263>more concern trollingYour talking points are 1 for 1 incel talking points against Abby from the TLOU2, just sayin' nobody's getting fooled what's side you're on. You're a man.
>>4143264I literally have no idea who that is but go off sis. This has to be one of the most bizarre arguments I've ever seen someone try to push.
>>4143265Hard to use reasonable arguments when your position is unreasonable.
>>4143265>I don't know how to use googleWell, I figured you're a retard based on everything else you've said.
>>4143268Fine I googled her and she literally has the same build as Miho Nonaka? maybe like 10% more jacked which makes sense if she's living in a post apocalypse I guess? She is visibly feminine and realistically built on a clearly female frame and skeleton. This is completely fine. Not at all the same as where Gideon is drawn as an upside down triangle with shoulders wider than two people and a ribcage the size of small truck>>4143026>>4142803>>4141995>>4140993>>4140024>>4139472Etc.Like Gideon was never described as a giant, she is noticably shorter than Corona and lithe as well as strong
>>4143272You are better off not replying. They don't want a discussion they just want weird culture war faggotry.
Let's talk real shit. Will Harrow finger the chussy?
>>4143272>>4143273>it's only "culture war faggotry" when the other side responds, but not when I do itSuuuuuuuure. Anyway, everything you've said is wrong, you're an incel, go Kiss Your Sister.
>>4143275I haven't finished Nona. What the fuck is "the chussy"?
>>4143280Chest pussy. Basically she has a hole in her chest and... Well, you can fill in the rest.
>>4143275Harrow will pet and kiss the chussy.
I think She-Ra (new cartoon) body type is how Gideon is supposed to look like.
I don't never like this book because of the ending. Came from a generation where all lesbian representation ended on the death of one of the girls so feels poorly tasted for me.
>>4143592Spoiler alert, she's not actually dead. Read on.
>>4143649>she appears as super-background character in a later bookI don't care.
>>4143592Not from your gen but I feel the same. I was getting into the relationship between the 2 just to have it rugpulled and then find out she plays second fiddle to new romantic interests while essentially acting as a force ghost.I can only assume with the authors background any kind of romantic endgame is going to be some poly bullshit.
>>4143653False she is still one of the main protagonists.
>>4143576>Huntara50
I read some other Tamsyn Muir books yesterday. Princess Floralinda and the Forty-Flight Tower is about a princess who gets kidnapped by a witch and put in a tower for a prince to rescue, but the witch put a dragon on the first floor of the tower and the princes keep getting killed and no one comes to rescue her anymore so Floralinda has to kill her way to the bottom of the tower to escape with the help of a fairy that gets blown into her window during a storm. Floralinda does fall in love with the fairy but most of the focus of the book is on Floralinda going being a coward to getting buff and enjoying killing the monsters. The fairy does reciprocate Floralinda's feelings at the end, but leaves the particulars of human/fairy sex to the reader's imagination, unfortunately. There's some nonbinary preaching going on but from all the times in TLT when someone is running around in a body that's not even their own gender you should probably be used to it by now from the author. It feels a bit rushed at the end but overall, I really enjoyed it.Undercover is a dieselpunk story about a woman who is hired by a female crime boss to feed and take care of the crime boss's wife, who has been turned into a flesh-eating ghoul. It's quite bloody but the only real romance is in background plot snippets. There's a neat twist at the end but the story is rather short and reads much like a Fallout fanfic. Not recommended.
>>4140031The author's own words
Gideon deserves to have her heart back
>>4144830I like the idea of Harrow pouring out her own blood to fill the hole or something like that. Romantic bodily modification ftw
>>4145197Harrow grows Gideon a new heart from her bone marrow. Gideon is suitably grateful.
6 chapters into Nona the ninth now. I'm absolutely confused. I think it's pretty obvious that it's Harrow's body but who the fuck is inside her body? Gideon without her memories?
>>4146157The person inside Harrow's body is Alecto without her memories, Harrow is inside Alecto's body back in the Tomb, and Gideon was resurrected by John and is now back inside her own body.
Imagine how extremely popular this series would be if animated.
>>4146790https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBl6sfWbA-Y
>>4146179nta but doesn't "resurrecting" gideon destroy the entire point of the whole first book?
>>4146825Yes, the emotional arc of the second book centers around this.
>>4146790>>4146812https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO4HfL_cOEsThis is still the best one. Watching this before I read the book made me imagine this epic journey that the rival characters go through before a boss battle requiring complete mutual trust. The boss battle WAS epic, but the book felt short.
>>4147068>>4146812https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvJOuUJNcx8the mercymorn one is still the best. I live for Ianthe's bored expression and tortured voice
>>4141995Soooo wouldn't it be weird if they get back together because Gideon (inside harrow) is effectively doing herself?
>>4148541Ackshually Gideon is back in her own body, Alecto is in Harrow and Harrow is in Alecto (presumably) not that it's any less weird, but now we just need Harrow back to fingerfuck the chussy.
>>4148751ACKSHUALLY ackshually Harrow and Alecto are back in their original bodies by the end
>>4148753Meaning an upcoming reunion between our protagonists. After not seeing each other for 2 long books.
>>4143011As a drawfag I feel a little called out. Drawing is hard, fuck.
>>4141328She's a great romantic. It's just agonizingly buried in subtext. Gideon and Harrow have that sick "I want to literally crawl under your fucking skin" type of energy.
TLT fanfics can have some truly banger lines such as "Ianthe can probably build herself a new vagina if this one doesn’t work out". Makes me wonder if tazmuir reads fanfic, especially erotic fanfic, of her series. It's likely she does, but has she ever acknowledged it?
>>4150884She's stated that she doesn't read TLT fanfic. If it was known that she read it and then wrote something that seemed too close to a specific fic she could get in trouble. iirc she didn't even know the fandom made "chussy" a thing until it was brought up in an AMA.
>>4150892Of course, makes total sense actually.>didn't even know the fandom made "chussy" a thing until it was brought up in an AMAWhy am I not surprised someone actually asked her this. got any link to that AMA?
>>4150923https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/yvzn13/comment/iwhgds6/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
>>4141328Oh in fact I think these books are all about love . It's all over and it's the driving force of why many characters act the way they do. Is it a romance book? No. Is it a deeply romantic book? Yes.
New banger comic by naomistares just dropped. If I acquire a billion dollars one day I'd pay her to adapt the whole book into a comic.
>>4150892Pretty much no creator reads fics of their own work for that reason. People sometimes cite Marion Zimmer Bradley (currently better known for a different controversy) having to shelve a novel because of her involvement with fanfic of her own work, but the case is more complicated than how it's usually presented. She tried to incorporate a fic she liked into her novel and offered the writer joint credit, but the fic writer didn't think the payment she was offered was enough, tried to negotiate and it turned into a thing. In case you're interested, here's a long piece about it: https://fanlore.org/wiki/Marion_Zimmer_Bradley_Fanfiction_Controversy
>>4143264>>4143246>>4143260>tons of gay/bi dudes complain about "draw a girl, call it a boy" art>woman equivalent can't existthese are YA books written by an ex-Homestuck fanfiction writer; that anon being a dude is about as likely as a woman being invested in a rapey incel fantasy isekai and writing effortposts about it. it's possible, but what's more likely?
>>4155514I guess you could say she 'ated Naberius Tern.>>4158963Don't start that nonsense again.
>>4155514god i love her art so much. the way she draws harrow and ianthe is peak feminine perfection i love evil women so much its unreal
>>4158963>>woman equivalent can't existCorrect. If you spout the same incel bullshit as men you're not a woman, you're a handmaiden, a subhuman entity not worthy to be called a woman.But it is far, far, far more likely to be men, anyway, so you're retarded.
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Just finished NtN. Wtf did I just read?
>>4166470Local Man with Necromancy powers screws everything
>>4166470Elaborately disguised Homestuck shit, probably.
>>4166564>>4166613Above all the other shocking things, are we now supposed to just accept that Gideon and Ianthe are besties now? Not that I dislike the idea but to go as far as to have matching friendship bracelets? It's fuckin mad and hilarious. I suppose we will never find out what transcurred in those months they were together on the mithraeum.
>>4166708They're both clearly self-traumatized idiots, and lanthe being the most duplicitous slut out of them all, I figure it's just a front. After all, they're both clearly very desperate for Daddy John's approval. I wholeheartedly believe they're getting along out of force, and I expect him to fight for Harrow in Alecto.
>>4166708the "gall on gall" joke proves they can get along when they're not fighting over Harrow.
>>4166708Gideon is horny.Ianthe is a slut.Harrow is hot (if you're into that).It's perfect
>>4166708>are we now supposed to just accept that Gideon and Ianthe are besties now?They should be the endgame, d e s u.
>>4166941I love the little, dark gremlin but I wouldn't mind if they ended up together.I think they're more fun together than either of them with Harrow. Harrow can be happily together with her ancient Barbie girlfriend.
>>4165486>>4167008>naomi smutOh wewAssuming these are from from her private twitter, can you post the harrianthe pic?
>>4167871It's futa, so no
It's just yaoi but the men have tits
>>4186528>>4186529>>4186530>Harrianthe>No skeleton armsomething is wrong here
>>4186536>>4186528that's not Ianthe>>4186529we see Ianthe's left arm here. her bone arm is on her right, moron>>4186530hasn't happened yet, look at Harrow's outfit
>>4186556>we see Ianthe's left arm here. her bone arm is on her right, moronYou see her other hand behind her hair in the bottom panel. don't reply to my posts again.
>>4186563Take your 1/3 win and your (you). I'll take the other 2, thanks
