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This thread is for any kind of VTuber (Hololive, Nijisanji, upd8, indies, mangaka, etc...) as long as they're gay.

Useful links:
https://schedule.hololive.tv/
https://www.itsukaralink.jp/
https://holodex.net/
https://niji-mado.web.app/home
https://holoclips.net/#/

Rules for /jp/ and /vt/ visitors:
No shitposting, no reddit memes, no waifufaggism, no to any kind of hetshit. Keep it gay.

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Reposting from the previous thread

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-SYW_aWo3o [Embed]
>Sukoya made a whole stream just to talk about the lewd dream she had about an onee-san with big boobs putting a collar on her. She said it was a good dream that got her very excited and that exactly hit her fetishes.

>She asked what could be the meaning and the chat googled it to find that the meaning of dreaming someone putting a collar on you is... unsatisfied desire. So she said she can't do anything but going to one of those "shops" where an onee-san bullies you.

>Expanding on that, she said she never used sexual services. Retards in chat said there are shops with men serving women and she immediately answered she doesn't need men, she wants a lewd onee-san.

>She can't go to lesbian sistels because her mother takes care of her credit card. Chat suggested her to go with someone and say it's to collect material for a stream but she said she doesn't want to share the lewd onee-san with anyone.

>She also shared some moments with "Rannu-chan" (Run? Hayase Sou? I don't know) that made her heart skip. Then she switched to "Nakucha" and asked for KanaKuru lewd doujinshi (Aitsuki Nakuru?).

>>Nakucha, can you help me practice my acting?
>>Kana-chan, this is just acting, right?

>She specified Nakucha must be the "seme" but added that she could be it if it is with a kouhai but the chat replied it's impossible for her to be the top which left her speechless. She insisted she can top Sophie-chan (Sophia Valentine?) and Ashumi (Asumi Sena?) and the chat replied they would riba her.

>>A seme with that voice? That excites me.

>A full gay stream for once.
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>>4271387
And why are you reposting it? And so sloppily at that? We already discussed this. And using a Crossick pic here is really dumb.
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Because is the most interesting thing posted in the previous thread. And I haven't been able to find any yuri pics with Sukoya that don't involve Tomoe. Since they stopped with Crossick Sukoya only gets solo pics while Tomoe got a handful of yuri pics with other Vtubers
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>>4271471
>Because is the most interesting thing posted in the previous thread
Aside from the fact that this isn't true, that's not how threads work. Why would we repost all the best parts of the prior thread?
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>Why would we repost all the best parts of the prior thread?

Why not? I've done it on old threads
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Posting my favorite Oshi with her lovely wife
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9dE1sbMJLU
Fauna continues to be the only EN gamer with anything worthwhile to watch.
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Kiara finally was able to meet Haneame and she kept offering to take a bath or going to the onsen together
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>>4271635
I see nothing on youtube/twitter. It wouldn't hurt you to link the source.
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>>4271638
It was as Keeki

https://x.com/keekihimedesu/status/1822991089856565645

She mentions it around the 45 minute mark
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>>4271599
Pretty cool how she has kinda become THE yurifag of EN (I know it's not a high bar, but still), pretty much the complete opposite of what people thought when she debuted.
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>>4271643
Or she bang her our out!
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>>4271472
For those who might have missed it?
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>>4271635
With Kiara predictably being too much of a pussy to take her up on any of those offers.
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>>4271651
Kiara is trying... sometimes. Unfortunately it feels a bit over the top. Fauna just feels more natural when she streams games and does gay stuff in it. On the other hand she is also not overly concerned with it, so not all her streams are gonna be golden.
They are still the only two Holo EN members that are confirmed bisexual that I actually believe. Nerissa claims to be, but she has nothing to show for it. Sana's graduated very early on. Kronii has been on a crusade to ruin her gay image as much as possible and the only content she has provided in ages is being cucked.

Basically the reason I enjoy Fauna's gaming streams (not even her collabs or other stuff), is that she is focused on the actual games she plays and likes to play into gay stuff. In Skyrim she married a woman and adopted children with her, she played Bad End Theater and had the most genuine reaction to the gay ending next to Reine and recently she played Volcano Princess and immediately set her daughter on the road to romance other girls.
Compare that to Kiara who played like a 100 hours of FE3H spending the initial time complaining about how hot Claude was and how she wanted to pick him and how going for Edelgard was almost an obligation. And that's like one of the only times she has ever played something where lesbian romance is possible.
Now Kiara lusts over girls in games a lot more than Fauna, but my point is the quality of the games and interactions is just different.

Again, this is only about gayming. In all other categories I don't think HoloEN provides anything worthwhile. Only Kiara does anything and she is a coward.
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>>4271658
They can click on the previous thread link in the OP and read the dang thread. There is no point in reposing stuff every thread.
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>>4271659
It's amazing how Kiara keeps having girls throwing themselves at her and she always chickens out.

Ironically, the only one she is comfortable to be naked with is Mori
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>>4271666
>Ironically, the only one she is comfortable to be naked with is Mori
That's because Calli probably made very clear that she is straight as fuck and doesn't care.
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>>4271663
we all forget that fauna said she is superhet when asked about his sexual orientation.
They delete the comments of other hetslut vtubers when they make yuribait, but not with fauna, which I make clear is het.
Respect what she said, and don't waste his time.
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>>4271673
Oho it's the lying piece of shit bad English anon who uses the wrong pronouns on purpose. Nobody cares what you say or think you shitposting loser.

It's the opposite this time shitposter, Fauna on her previous account made quite clear that she is bisexual. Oops.
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>>4271694
Admit it, Goora threatened Aqua to quite to get her hands off her garlic.
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>says Kiara
>it's not about Kiara
Fucking retarded simp stalking real people and posting doxing shit that has nothing to do with vtubers.
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https://youtu.be/XslHQcpvIn8?si=f-if5PMovoeBQP3w
I got tired, 4 years and no partner and something important on vtuber (I don't want your 1 view).
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>>4271711
I can't believe she is still hung up on the "husband and wife" thing that she would rather define themselves as best friends
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>>4271695
>>4271694
They made aqua their seggs slave
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>>4271663
Why is Kiara confirmed bi again? Also what happened to that pastebin of hololive lesbians/bisexuals info, couldn't find it when looking through the archive
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>>4271733
>why is she confirmed bi
Why is any bi woman bi? For fucks sake.
>paste from like 3 years ago
Worthless and out of date. Do your own research.
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>>4271663
>Compare that to Kiara who played like a 100 hours of FE3H spending the initial time complaining about how hot Claude was and how she wanted to pick him and how going for Edelgard was almost an obligation.
I'm not gonna disagree with you overall, but that is a odd thing to pick out as example when the most notable and remembered part of her FE3H streams was the complete meltdown she had when she found out she can't marry Petra, who was the actual character she had the hots for.
She really shouldn't have let chat pressure her into marrying Edelgard and just stuck to her guns and marry Sothis.
She made up for that in Engage, to be fair though. Basically, you are really overstating it a bit here.
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>>4271739
The point was that she forced herself to marry Edelgard and she was clearly not happy about it and she in fact did want to go with Claude's house. The entire experience was miserable.
>Engage
Too bad the game is so awful that not even same-sex romance could save it.
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>>4271745
Claude wasn't her must-pull, that's the point. why are you tryng to make it look like that?
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>>4271749
>must-pull
We are not talking about the goddamn gacha.
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>>4271745
She wasn't happy because she disliked Edelgard. And I agree, she shouldn't have forced herself, but ots not like it was Edelgard or Claude, who was never in the running for her to begin with.
She wanted Petra and whennshe couldn't have Petra was bummed out and wanted Sothis, but her stupid chat went ooohhhh minor coded problematic and insecure as she was (is) she went with the "popular" choice.
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>>4271753
Fuck it, it's officially in this Nintendo game for teens. Nothing illegal about marrying Sothis or the game would have been censored. Chat's dumb as usual.
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Sorry if you anons aren't interested in this but Ceci sang a pretty gay song and I thought it was quite cute so I'm sharing a clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA4657Gpqyw
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>>4271963
If only her singing wasn't so bad. I never in a million years would have expected anyone to cover Girl In Red. That's such indie lesbian music scene.
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>>4271995
I'm pretty sure if you open for Taylor Swift on tour you are legally not allowed to be called indie any more.
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>>4271471
>Because is the most interesting thing posted in the previous thread
Look, I loved Crossick too, but it's time to let go and accept that other vtubers are just way, way more relevant nowadays
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>>4271999
They are still one of the very few big vtubers that have been open on stream about wanting to fuck (real) women ( and not joking), which already makes them more relevant than like 90% of the vtubers that are regularly posted here.
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>>4271711
There's nothing wrong with wanting a corpo couple, but it's not realistic anon, the chances of a vtuber falling in love with a coworker or the company allowing a talent to reveal her girlfriend are beyond slim, so if that's *all* you seek in vtubers just stop.
>(I don't want your 1 view)
You have a few well-established lesbians if you care about numbers, tho I don't see the point in being obsessed with that, you know we're talking about a minority within a niche right?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUqt7LEc9Ro
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>>4272108
poor nina
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https://www.youtube.com/live/iUr79APh4dM?si=LeziWzlOAmLeOFl8
Kaya playing Hunie Pop
She is bit at last since she recently say she went to therapy because her therapist is hot
https://www.youtube.com/live/Bst8hqMznfE?si=Nn8Dlw9VPjvIO8o9
In 1 hour and 25 min
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>>4272323
Bit by what?
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>>4272336
Bi girl at last
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>>4272323
I wish she didn't sound so vapid and braindead. But it's better than nothing.
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>>4272323
>She is bi
Doesn't really come across like that to me, sounds like typical pandering to male viewers, not genuine at all.
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God I love Autofister
https://youtu.be/CEGZm26QYgM
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>>4271583
You made a mistake sis, let me help you.
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>>4273195
All of these "ships" have been dead for a year or more.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fU0pKtpCQE
That's deep
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>>4273591
Haacham lived and studied in Down Under for years. How has her English never evolved past this? A true miracle of comedy.
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The married couple energy aside, Mikochi has been calling pretty much every girl in Hololive Sui-chan by force of habit lately. It's gotten so far that the other girls don't even correct her anymore. What level of constant exposure to each other would they need to have for Miko to use her name for everyone without even noticing?
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>>4273182
I think they are very cute, I love their dynamic even if they aren't playing into shipping too much
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>>4273893
>they aren't playing in the shipping too much
Yeah they are just work colleagues who could become friends. That is literally all it is.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys5DDqwykCw

Amane "I'm not a lesbian, mom" Kanata strikes again
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>>4274110
I think this story says more about Lamy, who consistently tries to seduce girls and acts like she isn't.
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>>4274115
More like Lamy is so used to getting her tit groped she thinks it's weird that Kanata doesn't go for a big gorilla handful immediately.
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>>4274187
I mean Lamy even got freaking Subaru drooling over her cleavage before. Made out with drunk Matsuri. Kept flirting with Polka in ways that made the fennec actually confused. Had petting sessions with Marine.
The list could go on forever. Lamy is the most subversively bislutty Holo member.
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https://x.com/pavoliareine/status/1824497333880623539
Reine had to carry all the gayness in that stream, such a shame she doesn't have another bandori, starlight or really just a yuri shipper in holoEN
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>>4274237
>holo fanfic club
Was it yuri?
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>>4274237
Gigi has mentioned she likes yuri but doesn't read it as often as yaoi. She's named a few ships specifically (love live, dungeon meshi and that shes currently reading the lime green yuri) and that when she watches most media there is usually one f/f pairing she likes at least.
She is really a fujo though and Shiori is just a yumejoshi so I kind of feel bad for Reine (though I have not watched the stream)
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>>4274341
We have fallen a long way since KronMei fanfic reading streams where they acted out their own ship.
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>>4274349
That pairing hasn't been relevant for more than two years and I'm glad because that's the same time I've been watching EN
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>>4274438
I don't give a shit what you think. The point was that those fanfic streams, by default, were yuri.
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https://www.youtube.com/live/gTOYCcCcSBY?si=qrI4ZLc1VykzPHXs
Kihaya roleplay with her kohai
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A redebut? but I thought they already did that with the new designs
https://x.com/udsr5246/status/1824921260339650791
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>>4274545
They have only shown a preview of the new designs. Since they have been voice-only for a while, it will be kind of a redebut as vtubers.
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>>4274441
And i don't give a fuck about your shitty ded pairing, keep crying about them the same way You have doing for a while now
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>>4274971
You are genuinely too retarded to understand a basic point. Maybe you need to log out of life.
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>>4274349
To be fair this was a fanfic discussion stream not a reading stream so I'm not sure what you were expecting with yuri content honestly. And at least some of them actually read yuri unlike Kronii and Mumei (as far as I'm aware) who were just doing it for the bit. It would be fun if advent/justice did a stream like that but they aren't really comparable.
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>>4275323
I dont care whether they usually read yuri or not (Kronii literally voice acted the protagonist in a yuri VN, so I think it's obvious she did), but if I have to suffer through a fanfiction stream it better be yuri.
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【BREAKING NEWS】Urame denies allegations of being a neko.
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>>4275350
O rly? The woman who literally worked as a host and seduced girls for money is not a bottom? Shocking.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI0j6exF4HA
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>>4274971
Kronii is that you?
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So in view of the recent Phase Connect drama, was Uruka supposed to be a dyke or am I mistaking her for somebody else.
There's too many vtubers, brain can't keep up anymore.
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>>4276128
They treat her like a lesbian because of the way she dresses, but she always denies it.
None in phase is ok for here
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>>4276159
why is everyone telling me Eimi is a lesbian
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>>4276162
Probably waifufags coping
>s-she doesn't have a bf, actually she's a lesbian
Same thing is happening with Uruka
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>>4276128
The Uruka stuff is just playful banter, no reason to believe she's lying about not being a lesbian (unless her parents are super traditional and watch her streams? idk)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt3TZtrtQps&t=2017s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px_dperLh9I&t=550s
Rizz fantome
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>>4271378
Okay what are some true good yuri vtubers
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>>4276265
I don't know exactly what you are asking for, but if you want real-life lesbian couple vtuber channels, try emukoyuemu and udushiro. For vtubers whose content is focused on yuri, try sasayuri nene and yumachi riko.
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>>4276320
thanks
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I dunno guys... I think Cecilia and Raora have potential to be legit. We need to wait for an offcollab first, though. But they do sound super natural with each other. I ship it.
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>>4276251
why are they gay
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>>4276480
>Raora
yeah no
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Uduki redebuted today. Shiroru did both the art and the rigging for her new model and its looks great. Shiroru's redebut is tommorow, and their first stream together with their new visuals is on Saturday.
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>>4276799
You could have linked it at least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRBZmJh7sio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pphTJNqI-7w
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both have has lesbian sex with each other
on stream
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=sQ4PHct6psw

lesbian 2nt base
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>>4277177
Stop reposting this shit Numi troll. You repost this completely off-topic clip every time that as usual is literally nothing.
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>>4277177
Nope, both of them have bf so off topic , bye
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>>4276248
Abridged
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssjly4MFSJc
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>>4276799
Here’s the frame https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl5_pZ4sJJo
They’ll also be streaming/posting daily, one of them being a vlog in a couple days. Their vlogs are pretty fun if anyone’s interested.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNbGAVA-Rls
Shondo is so based for this.
yes I know it's an old clip and she's not actually gay but this thread has been so dead recently it's making me sad
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I was watching some sigrid and bird streams after I saw the engagement clip they constantly flirt on stream, they humor is a little too much i my opinion but its bearable and the dv elegation are pretty accurate seriosly watch how they behave
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https://youtu.be/RWSQADUDL58
Calli living the life
https://youtu.be/2sAh3UPjz54
Nerissa being Nerissa
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>>4277432
I know this may sound rude, but the vlogs are 90% of the time their only worthwhile content, they're super good and wholesome don't get me wrong, just not good entertainers
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>>4278319
Calli could bed all of them but, she had to be, american...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTEd6IuKCc8
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>>4278534
>>4278319
https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1828057669053083917?s=19

kek
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Mina Aoyama say in her last vod that she meet Ellen Joe voice actor and she cuddle a lot with her fried in the last event
but she won´t go in a relationship because she is busy, her chat think she went further with someone
Welll, that mean her interested in woman are serious enought
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>>4278319
is this all kayfabe?
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>>4278976
No shit.
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>>4278976
You mean, did IRyS and Kronii really sit on Calli's lap and bounce and grind on her thighs? The answer is yes, they did.
Did Nerissa really cuddle with Biboo and kiss Calli? Also yes.
I don't really get what you mean by "kayfabe" in this case.
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>>4278985
It's apparently possible for lesbians to be fujoshi, so by that logic straight girls can also be into yuri.
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>>4278987
The main target audience of yuri as a genre has always been straight girls. There aren't enough lesbians to hold up the genre in the first place.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IKbW_C0fc8
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>>4279413
What a misleading title.
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>>4279524
I can still hear Hana ni borei playing in my head...
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>>4279597
Miko's animated music video a few weeks ago was totally pushing Micomet. There is no way the storyboarder didnt run that by her.
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>>4271465
i'm glad to have read it here. why are you being so aggressive? why is this board always so mean?
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>>4280042
If you actually came from any other board on 4chan you would know that they are all far worse. Stop lying.
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Takamori, my beloved
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Well in honor of Aqua who finally graduated, I will post some of my favorite art.
But first a compilation of AquaShio, because Shion was the only one Aqua was herself and comfortable around. Best ship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0nzkyEVpZM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgXN_KUEOY0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtJeATmJ-BY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K5FLRotuII

AquaShio songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oMT_6Zu4a4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoSuMVviNaU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fogOag0PVQ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAMAWJkNOqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbN_qOscKPY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THVhUPoKFsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH7tgqMXOw
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Oh shit I put some clips into the song section... whoops.
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Phew, going on cooldown for now.
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>>4281124
Now she can bang girls without problems
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>>4281503
She is still a super introvert who doesn't leave her house though. Unless she joins another Vtuber agency, she will actually have less contact with other girls.
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>>4281507
Ha…straight!!!
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>>4281511
She has zero contact with men, like ever, outside of the staff at Hololive, so that will go to no contact compared to the less contact from other girls.
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Hands off Gooba's wife.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfFdsP_8RFs
I'm gonna miss these streams
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https://youtu.be/C0yWbgmnBn0?si=BOA_2DjasztYGl9D
And people say nerissa is straight
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>>4282083
Nerissa is european?
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>>4282085
If European = gay, Rissa is more European than everyone in the actual "EU gen" by a significant margin.
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>>4282083
She is a very bad bislut. As in she is adamant she is bisexual, but nothing in her history has ever proven anything but a het lean. Once again, most shit these girls say or do in Hololive is kayfabe.
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>>4282100
She just says she's bi for brownie points.
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>>4282083
>90% of the story is about how every girl in Hololive drools and squeals over 2D boys
>9% is about Kiara being disgusted by that
>1% is about how Nerissa just kinda chilled with Kiara on the sidelines
Nothing about this clip makes Hololive or Nerissa look good. Kiara continues to be the only one you can halfway trust.
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This place just hates everything, huh? Nerissa literally did nothing wrong in that clip yet anons still go "umm akshually she did something different in a completely unrelated stream so therefore she is lying".
Meanwhile actual lesbians love Nerissa.
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>>4282208
It's not about her doing something wrong in this clip, it's about reminding the anon who smugly said she isn't straight why people call her that.
>lesbians like her
Xitter "lesbians" fucking like any bait they get their hands on in Hololive. They like Marine, they like Pekora, they like Calli, they like fucking SHIORI and ship her with Nerissa. The straight girl in all of Hololive regularly gets yuri fanart from Xitter "lesbians". Do you see why this is not a great argument?
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>>4282212
You should stop worrying about what they actually are and just enjoy what you see.
I used to be like that too, but then I stopped giving a shit and Advent has gone from bottom of the barrel trash to actually pretty enjoyable, with Shioraven and Biboo with Karla.
Now Justice is actually complete and utter shit though, no matter how thick the yuri goggles are.
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>>4282217
But they are not enjoyable, they are extremely bad at acting gay. KroFaunMei used to be very entertaining, BaeRys was entertaining. Those were also fake, but they put the work in, they had the chemistry and they leaned into it.
Biboo absolutely has zero acting chops and she doesn't even pretend to be gay. Kaela and her have a sisterly relationship and say that often.
Shiori is just straight up disgusting. It's one thing to have HoloJP just avoid talking about how much they are into dudes, because then the yuribait is smooth. Shiori is so overtly and annoyingly het that she is literally unwatchable. Every single fanart about Shiori and Nerissa literally creates fantasy versions of them that don't exist to make up some gay dynamic they don't have. Literal parallel universe shit.
When TakaMori artists did that they leaned into the lore. They got into it because TakaMori actually played into the ship (for a while) and these days have a really genuine connection.

Even compared to any other Hololive standard you have to understand why Advent is worthless. Nerissa is the only one who occasionally isn't completely useless. And that's not a compliment. Don't even get me started on Justice...
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>>4282219
I don't really like "acting". I never liked BaeRyS because it was obviously fake as fuck from the beginning, blatant attentionfagging.
Shioraven is different in my opinion, they don't actually act, at least from Nerissa's side. She obviously likes Shiori to some extent, while Shiori doesn't want to shoot her down but also doesn't want to encourage her. So we get a nice push-pull situation, with Shiori keeping Rissa at an arm's length but occasionally responding and flipping the dynamic on its head.
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>>4282220
They are ALL acting. But BaeRys was playful and entertaining about it. They even created actual yuri music videos and they always have really good chemistry. They didn't do it for attention, they did it because they themselves find it entertaining. And that's also why they toned it down recently, as the roleplay has lost its luster for them. Any Baerys streams are still entertaining without the yuri angle, which I can't say about any pairing in Advent.
>Nerissa/Shiori don't act
Bullshit. Shiori is openly a hetslut and Nerissa knows that. She is hitting on her like she is hitting on every other girl, mostly just for the kayfabe. Shiori is basically mocking the audience for taking it seriously every single time.

When you say shit like this, but hate on Justice I just can't take it seriously. People are already saying shit about how good Gigi and Raora are as a ship because of super similar shit.

By no means do I think Myth or Council were super gay, but they definitely provided more content. Well, content you could actually watch anyway.
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>>4282224
BaeRyS was always trash, sis.
And regarding Shiori being "openly straight" or whatever, not like that has ever stopped lesbians from trying to hold hands. Shioraven's first awkward off-collab where they didn't really know how to act around each other was more kino than anything BaeRyS ever did.
And Justice, it's Gigi and Ceci which is the chosen pairing, but it's more of a little sister and big sister dynamic than anything yuri.
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>>4282228
Bae and Irys are actually very good friends who grew super close behind the scenes, which gave their bickering and divorced couple act some gravitas. Even when they were clearly doing a soap opera, they actually know each other so well that it works. Advent doesn't have anything like that except the twins, who are also hetsluts and never flirt with anyone. The only thing they give is twincest fanart.
>Shiori is openly straight, but uh, Nerissa is definitely seriously into her despite using the same half-assed approach to any girl she hits on
>two people who don't actually know each other or have any chemistry are awakward in an off-collab... and this makes it good yuri content
Sure, be delusional then. Anyone who can pretend Shiori delivers anything worthwhile can go fuck himself.
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>>4282229
BaeRys was the most cynical yuribait in HoloEN history. Nowadays they basically don't even acknowledge the other exists, so they definitely were never "super close" as you claim.
You can talk shit about Rissa all you want, but she talks about Shiori in basically every stream she does, so at least she is consistent about it.
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>>4282235
>BaeRys was the most cynical yuribait in HoloEN history
It's not cynical, it was intentionally for entertainment. They didn't pretend it was real, but their intimacy was real (in a friendship sense) so it worked.
>Nowadays they basically don't even acknowledge the other exists, so they definitely were never "super close"
That's fucking stupid. As if relationships can never change. They used to literally always call each other behind the scenes and talk deep into the night all the time, Bae specifically went to visit Irys in Japan several times, they went on dates together (platonic) and you could tell from their banter, because they always let things slip in that you only know if you know someone really well.
Why they are more distant now I can't say. Irys seemed to feel uncomfortable about something all across last year already. I suspect the shipping got to her, but maybe they just had a bad argument, who knows? Either way the idea that friendships cant cool down or get out of the public eye is naieve.
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>my fake couple is better than yours
Roru rumau
And the issue is not even about the fakeness but that both couples involve girls who are certified het
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e6SYOcBgag
I supposed Gura is prettier irl
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>>4282447
what do you mean?
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>>4282447
This shit's ancient.

>>4282451
Dumb waifufag is trying to impose his preferences.
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>>4282457
Bad English anon, you can go right back to whatever hole you crawled out of. Your off-topic shit doesn't belong here.
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>>4282461
I've been here since the beginning, you fool, I'm not going to learn a shitty language. You understand what I'm saying.
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>>4282464
I know you have infested this thread occasionally with your inability to learn basic English. I also know that the only time you ever post is to go on a rant about how some Vtuber is het or doing something het. And the worst part is that you are usually lying about it too.

Anyway freak, you always get the boot. Try to learn from your mistake and stop talking about hetshit, real or in your imagination.
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>>4282464
anon, I never understand what the fuck you're saying and I'm a native English speaker
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https://x.com/YuriaVT/status/1828894480302264763
Yuria flirt with her before her debut
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please... please come back to me...
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So, anyone has copies of all the crossick covers? Thanks to the current Nijicaust more than half of Tomoe and Sukoya's videos are gone
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>>4283433
nijicaust? what the fuck happened now?
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>>4283620
A music producer that worked really closely with niji turned out to be a MASSIVE creep, they privated every cover, 3D debut and live in which he worked.
Even Tomoe's 3D debut is gone
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>>4283731
Sad. I used to listen to her original and knew it was going to get privated after hearing the person who was involved.
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Mori has come a long way
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https://youtu.be/G2nQVrJJZH4
Yet another example of Shiori openly calling Nerissa a lesbian. I feel like Holos used to be more coy about it.
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>>4283880
She can call her whatever she wants, but we know for a fact Nerissa is a bislut at best.
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>>4283274
I mean let's look at the bright side, at least this whole Minecraft RP server has the potential for some kronmei moments? You're not totally helpless
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>>4283433
I got the Crossick magnet cover and the Pina Colada covers as audio files. But I'm sure you will find those easily. I do not have the videos unfortunately.
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>>4283888
Yeah, I also have those as audio but it sucks losing the MVs
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>>4283731
holy shit so over 70% of the entire niji library got sent into the backrooms...
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>>4283882
>at best
She is bi, only a complete buffoon would think otherwise
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>>4283989
We have undeniable proof she is into men. No such proof for women. So I will stick with "bi at best", thanks.
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>>4283991
Kirara said she wasnt into the otome man game that every girl execpt her and Kirara werent into it because it wasnt about touching woman
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>>4283879
Kiwawa worked magic lol
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>>4284078
>Kirara
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>>4284078
well said
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>>4283886
>I mean let's look at the bright side, at least this whole Minecraft RP server has the potential for some kronmei moments? You're not totally helpless
Except Kronii won't be available for the rest of the event since she's going on vacation with her family to Spain.
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Give me a yuri manga with this political intrigue!
https://x.com/ENRecoRecap/status/1831015479827407018
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi82Gp-TtXo
She's too real...
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>>4284436
Something is not quite right with this one.
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Pretty sure this is the only Mina lewd in existence.

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/121291092
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>>4284430
ENReco has been really fun for fictional yuri and cute interactions between members in general
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eai2uzKC80c

Yuri VN voice acting from two Vtubers of EIEN Project
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>>4285070
But Oshirabu already has voice acting...
Also really weird how people keep picking this game, considering it is not exactly one of the easiest yuri experiences due to Akuru being such a dumb yumejoshi for most of it.
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>>4285124
>Also really weird how people keep picking this game
Because it's one of the few SFW yuri games, also pretty short so you can get through the whole thing in one stream or two
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>>4285416
>one of the few SFW yuri games
Are you retarded? The gran majority of all yuri games is SFW you dolt. And the irony is the Oshirabu has a 18+ patch! It literally has sex scenes.
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>>4278989
Bullshit
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>>4285420
Every fucking time. Every time some idiot who knows nothing about the Japanese manga industry or the history of yuri comes to tell me I'm wrong about something you can easily research.
Yuri started as a branch of Shoujo manga, the genre aimed at straight girls. Throughout the last 3 decades the major yuri magazines all had readerships in majority of girls and those are the same girls that buy shoujo manga and BL garbage. Because girls are more open to all kinds of romance media, unlike dudes.

These days there are a lot more male readers than their used to be, but the majority is still held by girls. Girls (and from sheer numbers straight girls) are the ones who have kept the yuri industry going from the start. They are the ones that are seen as the main demographic. The rise of "shounen yuri" which is aimed at males is recent and even there the audience is very split between dudes and girls.

Yeah no shit lesbians and bi girls probably read yuri too, but it's more nuanced than that. Not only are there only like 3.5% lesbians/bisexual girls in any given population, but a lot of lesbians dont like yuri because it idealizes their life and isn't relatable.
As a funny/shitty adendum, in Japan a lot of lesbians/bisluts are actually fujoshis who read a bunch of BL.
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>>4285424
>a lot of lesbians dont like yuri because it idealizes their life and isn't relatable.
What do you mean? Stuff like Twinstar Cyclone Runaway is relatable to me because I also fish flying fish in the atmosphere of a gas giant.
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>>4285457
Not everyone has the same hobbies.
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So what should we make of it the crazy soap opera drama that has happened during the filler episode of Enigmatic Recollection especially with Ame and G?
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The true soulmate of Cali was, harley quinn
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>>4285533
I just appreciate the mass amounts of fanart I have suddenly been seeing from it. I don’t really get the roleplay so much but I have seen a few clips and it’s cute
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>>4285729
If there one thing that Hololive stuff is usually reliable for is good yuri fanart. It's kinda the only positive aside from not having to bother with males in collabs much.
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>>4285533
this what en and maybe vtubing as a whole should've been. just gals being pals and end up in interconnected, probably borderline incestuous yuri relationships. but really it was great. gigi and ame really stole the show at the end there. super disappointed in not seeing a mumei fauna kronii love triangle thing happening because the blue woman decided to fuck off.
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>>4285424
>Yuri started as a branch of Shoujo manga
Yuri is primarily a shoujo genre because its about girls FOR girls. This has nothing to do with straightness and it didn't really start as a branch of soujo either, since the history of both is linked from the start.
They're very specifically about and aimed at girls exploring lesbian desires (wether or not they actually were lesbians). Yuri is so deep in shoujo's DNA that when MariMite was made just to create a shoujo story not primarily focused on male characters, they accidently reverse engineered the taisho era S genre. Because Nobuko (one of the spiritual grandmothers of shoujo, who was a more or less open lesbian living with her partner for 50 years) effectively invented both at the same time.
>but a lot of lesbians dont like yuri because it idealizes their life and isn't relatable
Saying "some people of X group dislike Y" is a inherently worthless statement. Yuri is primarily aimed at girls and therefore also lesbians. And it also appealing to straight girls doesn't make it 'aimed' at them. And more aimed at their lesbian tendencies if anything.
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>>4285920
>no it isnt for straight girls, even though it literally branched off from the straight girl focused genre and the numbers proof it
Shoujo existed before yuri was ever a thing. When Shoujo started Class S was still prevalent, that's how far back it goes.
>saying some people dont like is not important
No, lesbians and bisluts are VERY rare. They do no have the buying power to actually support a genre. So if even 1% of these 3.5% refuses to read or buy yuri that is MAJOR difference.
> it also appealing to straight girls doesn't make it 'aimed' at them
Motherfucker, the actual publishers and and business side has a target demographic, which was for the longest time the same as the Shoujo audience. To them straight girls were the target demographic. Unless you want to tell me all Shoujo readers are secretly lesbians.

This reeks of delusion because you got offended that the obvious reality is that there are more straight girls and a girl readership dominated genre will by necessity consist of mostly straight women. The only dent in this is the growing male fanbase. Period.
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>>4285924
>ranched off from the straight girl focused genre
Shoujo is for girls, not "straight girls". And considering, again, Nobuko and her works were considered defining shoujo works at the time and decades afterwards the claim its intrinsically a "straight girl genre", when some of its earliest prominent examples were a story collection about girls loving eachother so much they literally commit suicide to not be apart, is the height of ignorance.
> When Shoujo started Class S was still prevalent, that's how far back it goes.
You're an idiot, Class S and Shoujo came into being at the same time and if we're thinking of shoujo as purely anime and manga, then yuri was in it from the very beginning because of it literature roots being so strongly defined by a lesbian writing about lesbians.

In short, you're an ignorant moron who has no idea how yuri and shoujo came into being and how they are connected and now you are making shit up.
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>>4285928
>Shouho is for girls, not straight girls
All you are saying is that lesbians and bisluts also read hetshit.
>girls comitting suicide
You dolt, that's Class S. Not Shoujo or yuri.
>Class S and Shoujo came into being at the same time
Class S has existed since at least the 1910s you dumbass. The Shoujo genre only existed since the 80s.
And all your bullshit about "b-b-but clearly it was inspired by a lesbian" dont fucking matter if the Shoujo genre is about hetshit. That is its focus and has always been its focus. Yuri branched off becuase it did NOT fit the Shoujo mold of hetshit.

You are probably one of these idiots who skimmed a wiki article or two and thinks he has actual knowledge on the topic now.
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>>4285928
>when some of its earliest prominent examples were a story collection about girls loving eachother so much they literally commit suicide to not be apart, is the height of ignorance
Lets not forget 屋根裏二処女, which had a happy ending too. The エス genre was about lesbianism from the start and only retards today think the ambiguity made necessary by later censorship means they weren't meant to be romantic. Also lets not forget about where Rose of Versailles came from and its history with lesbianism.

Yuri and Shoujo are always combined because in reality most girls have experiences like that at one point or another. And for many yuri was an outlet to make sense of their feelings. Disparaging it by claiming its aimed at "straight girls" and using that as argument of it being somehow less for lesbians, just shows that this anon has no idea what they are talking about.
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>>4285935
>Class S has existed since at least the 1910s you dumbass.
Yes, I literally mentioned Nobuko you dumbass. You need to learn to read before throwing around your pathetic half-knowledge.
> The Shoujo genre only existed since the 80s.
Shoujo existed as a genre already long before that, it literally just describes literature aimed at young girls. The 'modern' form of it, that focuses primarily on romance and is aimed at teenage girls is younger, but it didn't just spring into being out of nowhere. And you need to make up your mind on chronology, because acknowledging Class S existed since the 1910s and then claiming yuri somehow branched of from modern shoujo is just schizophrenia at this point. Because the form of yuri that became prominent in the 80s and 90s is the SEINEN version, that then merged with its shoujo version in the 90s/00s.
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>>4285938
>actually all girls are just bicurious or have lesbian feelings so that means actually means Shoujo is secretly totally gay
Oh fuck off.
I will tell you something because you are clearly a braindead retard: Nowhere in this discussion did anyone say yuri isn't for lesbians. What was said is that they are not the target demographic, because lesbians dont have any buying power.

The genre was specifically aimed at straight girls in the early days because they are a reliable fanbase you can make money off. That's why early "yuri" manga were so vague and tried not to go too far, because it was an exciting taboo, not something to be seriously explored. Just like Class S ends with suicides and het marriages, early Shoujo yuri was very tame and did not actually address lesbian feelings and circumstances much at all. The point was not to upset het girls because seeing actual lesbian sexuality is a bit too far for just a little bit of spicy taboo breaking.

>>4285940
>Shoujo literally just describes literature aimed at young girls
You fucking moron. You are trying to take it as literally as possible, probably intentionally because you fucked up, but obviously we are talking about the actual fucking manga genre. Just like nobody thinks about fucking Nickelodeon TV shows when they talk about "Shounen" as a genre.
Yuri did not properly exist in the 80s, at all. Yuri only started to properly get solidified around the time of Marimite and that was as a direct subversion of Class S bullshit. And it spawned from the Shoujo genre, because that is literally what happened.

This idiot can get fucked. Literally useless.
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>>4285938
>The エス genre was about lesbianism from the start and only retards today think the ambiguity made necessary by later censorship means they weren't meant to be romantic.
This is more or less to blame on Maria-sama by accident (supposedly) re-creating it without being familiar with the material. Because that actually wasn't intended to be romantic, but it goes to show how deep that influence sits in the modern shoujo genre, that she tried to make a shoujo story "back to the roots" focused on the girls automatically produced a yuri work.
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>>4285946
>but it goes to show how deep that influence sits in the modern shoujo genre
Its not just the influence the "girls bible" had on later shoujo, but because so much of it is autobiographical or semi-autobiographical. It cannot be overstated how important it is to yuri (in difference to yaoi), especially 40-50 years ago, that it was written by girls for girls.
エス culture being so massively influential is part of why its such a common experience in japan, but its also just generally a girl-experience that the female readership can relate to, because they also either knew such girls or experienced the "nameless feeling" themselves.
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>>4285945
>Yuri did not properly exist in the 80s, at all.
Escalation was made in the 80s.
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>>4285959
Even more unambigiously, Iczer-1 was made in the 80s too. Actually the funny thing about the seething hetfags ramblings is that seinen-style yuri came into being in the 80s when shoujo style yuri had fallen out of fashion until the 90s (and Sailor Moon).
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>>4285962
I don't think it fell out of style, the bifauxnen era wasn't terribly yuri but just like the takarazuka revue it paved the way out of the censorship and suppression of non-straight romance. Especially insofar shoujo is concerned.
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>>4285959
>>4285962
The misunderstanding that just because lesbians or sapphic stories existed at any given time means that this is actually part of a wider genre is very dumb. That's like saying rap existed in the 1920s because some people speak sang while doing acapalla impression of instruments.
Yuri as a genre did NOT exist until the 90s and even there it was just in its infancy.
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>>4285966
>Yuri as a genre did NOT exist until the 90s
Says who? The person who thinks shoujo didn't exist until the 80s, when Rose of versailles was published in a explicitly shoujo manga-focused magazine in the 70s? Piss off.
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>>4285968
Its particularly bewildering because the term became associated with female homosexuality earlier, but didn't become a common term for anime and manga specifically until later, so its especially clear anon probably just quick-searched the yuri wikipedia page.
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>>4285968
>>4285974
You idiots just repeated your fallacy. "[insert example] work existed at this point therefore entire genre must have existed" is the argumentation method of illiterate children.
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>>4285978
>the magazine that literally called itself 少女漫画 isn't actually an example of shoujo manga because ... it just isn't okay?!
There is a morbid curiosity in me in how you define "yuri" as a genre that wouldn't include stories about girls being in love with eachother and their relationships, but I'm alsop dreading the sheer mental illness I'm about to be privy to if you try.
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>>4285983
You are either mentally challenged or intellectually dishonest. Most likely both. It's really pathetic how much you try to not understand even the most basic points.
>how you define "yuri" as a genre that wouldn't include stories about girls being in love with eachother and their relationships
Like the sheer idiocy of this post is actually staggering. What made you think this complete strawman makes any sense?
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>>4285978
So you're saying something can't be X genre if it wasn't explicitly called that? Is that your argument? Except Escalation was already called a 百合 work back in the 80s because it was a term for lesbian relationships back then.
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>>4285986
Okay and now try that again but replace the ad-hominems with actual arguments based on facts. Because sofar you've just made assertions who's logic you refuse to explain, in addition to those which were just factually wrong.
If yuri as a genre supposedly did not exist back then, then what defines yuri as a genre to have made it come into being as such?
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>>4285987
Yuri was not a term for lesbian relationships. Yuri was a term created by small doujin circles that wanted to give a name to their girls love focused works (in the same way yaoi/bara were born to replicate that concept of flower terms). Real lesbians didn't call their relationships yuri back then.
And the argument is that an occasional work that somehow focused on lesbians in some way does not actually mean a yuri genre existed. It's not hard to understand. There is a reason that those 1910s Class S works are not called yuri. Because the genre simply didn't exist.
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>>4285990
That is literally an entirely different argument from the strawman you pulled in your previous post, proving that you don't give a shit. I'm done with you.
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>>4285992
>Yuri was not a term for lesbian relationships.
Okay, so you're even more clueless. Gotcha. "Yurizoku" was coined as a term to refer to lesbian relationships as opposed to barazoku, but it was already long before the 90s used as a term for lesbian homosexuality in culture and in fact you can find lots of (non anime and manga) works focused on lesbian relationships using the term for it in the 80s.
>There is a reason that those 1910s Class S works are not called yuri.
Except, they very commonly are called yuri.
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>>4285992
>Real lesbians didn't call their relationships yuri back then.
No one claimed they did, it was used as a term to refer to female homosexuality.
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>>4285995
>the term was totally used in other works in the 80s
>the same time the term was invented for those small doujin circles and thus directly related most likely
Still wasn't actually used by real lesbians to describe their real relationship back then
>except they are called yuri
Literally not. They are classified as Class S. Class S is NOT yuri and is generally considered something yuri was reactionary to. Class S is also garbage, but that's a separate matter.
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>>4285999
You keep making baseless assertions and refuse to substantiate them.
What supposedly constitutes the yuri genre that only became a feature in the 90s, to justify saying the genre did not exist before?
Certainly its not the name, because we established it was used for works about lesbian romantic and sexual relationships before that, even in anime and manga.
Lesbians using it or not for themselves is entirely irrelevant to the question of when and how it came into being as a genre.

>Class S is NOT yuri and is generally considered something yuri was reactionary to.
This is a claim you make you also have yet to proof. There is nothing about エス that yuri would be in reaction to, unless you have fallen for the completly western invention that claimsd its about "platonic" relationships which could not be further from the truth.
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>>4286000
>Class S is NOT yuri
By who?
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>>4286001
You literally know nothing about Class S, its themes or its cultural background and yet you try to act like a fucking authority on it. You actually don't understand why yuri as a genre fixed what Class S broke.

Class S is not about platonic relationships, it is about doomed relationships. The genre focuses on the ephemeral time whee girls play lovers when they will inevitably marry a guy or have to commit suicide to escape that fate. It is a genre deeply steeped into homophobia (both external and internal) and has a heavy focus on the horrible cultural issues Japan had (and to a degree still has) that relationships between girls are just make-believe and pretend. In fact playing lovers was encouraged for girls by general society to get used to it for their eventual relationship to a man. THAT is what Class S is.
Yes, it has themes that are relevant to yuri and homosexuality, but it is not close to the same genre. It's a cynical, horrible, disgusting reflection of shitty conventions and cultural aspects. Yuri took its roots from Shoujo, because shoujo is a romance affirming genre that while facing real issues too, at least tries to be an actual romance and not a cry for help like Class S was.

>>4286004
Oh my fucking god, you absolute bastard, you literal mental invalid... Marimite is the most well known TRANSITIONAL work between Class S and Yuri. It is literally what broke Class S and started the yuri era. So yes, you can classify Marimite as both or neither. It is that unique. Marimite is NOT a good example of Class S. That is the entire point.
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>>4286005
>it is about doomed relationships
Except lots of class works were not doomed at all?
You literally just invented your own definition, because the term was invented to refer to IRL relationshipos between schoolgirls who actually took eachother as "sisters" and had romantic relationships in the Taisho era. Which gave rise to literature describing those kinds of relationships. Most of them were tragic, because the reality about them was usually tragic. But lots of S literature was not, someone mentioned Two girls in the attic earlier specifically as an example.
So you're just another ignorant retard who has no idea about the history and actual meaning of the term and took the later S works having to layer themselves into plausible deniability at face value, because you're as retarded as the people it needed to circumvent.
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>>4286005
>Marimite is the most well known TRANSITIONAL work between Class S and Yuri.
Thats such a dumb cope. No its not. If you ask the author its neither, but in reality its both. A story about schoolgirls in a sister-system is obviously S culture. Nothing in MariMite is somehow groundbreaking in terms of open lesbianism either.
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>>4286007
Two Girls In and Attic is an OUTLIER work written long before the Class S genre as a proper genre took off. The 1910s didnt actually have some major Class S movement or genre, it was basically just two major authors. And one of those authors had the absurd luck to get away with her lesbianism at a time where that was unlikely.
But every Class S work from the 50-80s was heavily focused on the cultural aspect of pretend or doomed relationships. You can claim it was just a reflection or reality, but the entire point is that the genre steeped itself nigh exclusively in those themes. That is why the "flower garden!" at all-girls schools is the most prevalent theme. Flowers only get to bloom for a short while and these girls can only be happy and gay with each other until school is over and they get to marry a man or try to run away from that fate on way or another. It wasn't a romance genre focused on homosexuality, ti was a cry for help and misery porn.
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>>4286008
It's amazing how you can be this ignorant and yet so certain. Literally every person who knows their shit about the yuri genre knows that Marimite was the most important transitional piece written and the headstart of yuri branching off from Shoujo and killing Class S for good.

Nothing more to say. You are just dumb.
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>>4286009
>Two Girls In and Attic is an OUTLIER work written long before the Class S genre as a proper genre took off.
The books that literally invented the class S genre ... do not count as class s. Okay.
So all the stories in the hana monogatari that ended up non-tragic also don't count, and neither do all the other similar works by other authors which existed until censorship prohibited them in the 30s.
You're a fucking clown.
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>>4286009
So basically you fell for innuendo that were meant to fool and circumvent censorship and now you blame the people who had to work around censorship for it. Thats actually kinda disgusting. You're not just provably ignorant of japanese culture and history, but also just a terrible human being.
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>>4286009
>The 1910s didnt actually have some major Class S movement or genre
The term actually predated the 1910s and only came to popular attention in 1910. In part because it had become so common and because people that experienced it started writing about it.So yes, the 1910s actually did have a major エス movement, culturally.
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>>4286012
I said it is an outlier, not that it's not part of the genre, you lying weasel.
Class S as a genre has been basically censored and also doomposting for most of its existence. So the genre is fucking trash. Not hard to understand.

I already explained why yuri was romance affirming and thus took its roots from Shoujo rather Class S. I really don't care to repeat myself again. Bunch of thick-headed wannabe intellectual morons who read a random expose on the origin of Class S and somehow ignore 60 years of actual history.

>>4286013
I didn't "fall" for anything. A genre that literally in its absolutely majority is about how lesbian relationships are doomed to fail is unreadable trash. This isn't the same shit that happened in Western lesbian media at the same time, where they wrote an entire book about a lesbian relationship and then tagged on that she married a man in the end. No Class S heavily leaned into the theme of this being an unsustainable make-believe state and that society demands het marriage. If they were just messing around to circumvent censorship there wouldn´t be so many fucking lovers suicides in the genre. There wouldn't be so many references to real life pretend-lovers culture.

I can't with you morons. This is my last response.
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>>4286015
>from Shoujo rather Class S
You have yet to explain how shoujo is somehow a different thing. Class S is a form of yuri and both are part of the shoujo genre, although some yuri is not part of the shoujo genre these days. You pretend like it can only be one or the other because you don't even understand what shoujo actually refers to.
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>>4286014
>So yes, the 1910s actually did have a major エス movement, culturally.
You don't understand, those girls who literally killed themselves in desperation over not being able to be together weren't actually lesbians because someone who's entire understanding of yuri derives from the english wikipedia page says so.
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>>4286018
>lesbians killed themselves therefore Class S was a major literature movement
Ah the ingenuity of the most lowly moron is really astounding.
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>>4286010
>and the headstart of yuri branching off from Shoujo and killing Class S
Maria-sama is widely credited for literally reviving the class s genre my dumb little imouto. It did the literal opposite of "killing it".
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>>4286022
There has been no major Class S post Marimite, so I guess you are just fucking wrong, as usual. It wasn't a revival, it referenced that decript old corpse and drew attention to how to do it better and then people got inspired to go harder on the yuri and pick the few good ideas Class S had... but mostly just to subvert its tropes.
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>>4286022
>Maria-sama is widely credited for literally reviving the class s genre
Alongside the claim it supposedly got men into yuri, I find that claim still pretty dubious. Because S had definitely fallen out of fashion but it was hardly dead yet.
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>>4286023
>There has been no major Class S post Marimite
Strawberry Panic.
>ib4 this story about schoolgirls taking eachother as sisters doesn't count as S because I still don't understand what the term means
>>4286024
Personally I don't necessarily agree, but presenting it as the endpoint of class S is also pretty absurd when it features literally all of the trappings (including the negative ones) of the genre. It did revive Class insofar it re-popularised the themes of sisterhood etc. as a path to expressing female homosexuality that yuri works then picked up in the 00s (like Strawberry Panic and to some extent SonoHana etc.).
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>>4286027
Strawberry Panic is explicitely yuri. It is not a Class S story, even if it references some Class S tropes. Perfect example of you having no idea what you are talking about.
Class S is not just the fucking "sisters" system, you absolute troglodyte. Did you ever play the FLOWERS games? They directly reference and mock Class S tropes and also have a parody of the souer system. I bet and idiot like you would classify this literal desconstruction as part of the Class S genre.
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>>4286028
>Class S is not just the fucking "sisters" system
Thats literally why its called S, dumbass. Jesus christ are ignorant. The term was LITERALLY invented by actual schoolgirls using the english word "sister" as a term to express romantic feelings for another girl in the early 20th century. Thats WHY its called class S. Its a real thing people actually did.
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>>4286028
>Class S is not just the fucking "sisters" system
Nee-san, the S stands for Sister.
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>>4286029
>>4286031
You are the moron for not understand that the entire genre and all its conventions isnt just that one aspect. There are plenty of Class S works without a sister system and there are plenty of yuri works that reference this sister system and garden of girls trope without being Class S. Because yuri can take inspiration from anything, but is its own thing.

Fuck you retards are so unveblievably stupid that you are giving me a migraine just associatting with your fuck ups. Enough. I need to wash my mind from your repulsive autism. See you never.
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>>4286032
>You are the moron for not understand that the entire genre and all its conventions isnt just that one aspect.
A genre can be broad or narrow. And エス is a term that specifically refers to the expressing female-female attraction in terms of sisterhood. Not specifically or exclusively in a school system maybe, but certainly anything that uses those trappings is a example of the genre.
ESPECIALLY Strawberry panic with is "she's a pariah because people think she's a REAL lesbian" which very specifically explores the question of the line between intimate friendship and romance.
You have been wrong about every single thing you said sofar and you should strongly consider actually reading (insofar possible, admittedly) the literature you are arguing about.
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>>4286037
>"she's a pariah because people think she's a REAL lesbian"
Justice for Yaya.
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>>4286028
>Strawberry Panic is explicitely yuri. It is not a Class S story
And you still haven't explained how class s isn't yuri.
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>>4286040
I always feel bad for the yaya's that lose even though they actually took their shot. Only the orbiter yaya's deserve to lose.
Her getting fucked over because she's the first to realise she's a lesbian in a class s setting is just cruel.
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Oh boy, this thread sure got long. Maybe Bae finally gave in and got converted? Maybe the 3rd and 4th EN gens abandoned their disgusting ways?
>anime villain speeches, autism and history of yuri
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>>4286102
Do you understand the difference between real life and Minecraft or do you need a crash course?
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>>4286100
>Oh boy, this thread sure got long. Maybe Bae finally gave in and got converted? Maybe the 3rd and 4th EN gens abandoned their disgusting ways?
>>anime villain speeches, autism and history of yuri
Indeed. We need to talk about GG being pregnant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnoPcIXjrgo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvIogZAUoRI
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I think all girls deserve a S class, they're pretty nice

Btw ive noticed that whenever class s and marimite are mentioned in the same post it means that autism will flood the thread
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>>4286228
Everyone is seduced by Lamy's tits. Even Subaru had gay throughs and reactions to them.
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>>4285712
How will Ivy cope?
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https://x.com/harusame_urame/status/1832640531320426664
Hooking Karuta with Urame would be the twist of a lifetime
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Here's your fanfic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGUqapnx6b8
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>>4286935
Poly!
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>>4271668
Mori did a gay moment in persona btw
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>>4273783
Her gayness scared chaama and she raped peco
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>>4287512
How many times? Playing it up for the audience when playing a game doesn't mean shit. Especially when playing het games like Persona.
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>>4274110
Years ago she fought san 1000 times just to grope noel
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>>4276480
Just add one japanese imperialist in and you'll have vtuber axis
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>>4278319
You forgot orange woman want to be her bitch
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>>4278976
Kronii is gay. She molest other en women in off collab one in a while
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Why are you so desperate to spam posts to hit the bump limit. Get a life.
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>>4282083
She's just too horny. Senchou of en, without leading skill
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>>4282447
The shark has aged. Marin said she's a lolibaba now
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You can quote more than one post at a time. But you just want to hit the bump limit and then you will disappear.
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https://www.youtube.com/live/6nm9AH4ui-w
These two are really getting into it huh
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>>4286938
Urame is doing a pre-stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzc8vFj2HzY
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>>4287513
Isn't Haachama herself quite gay?
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>>4286938
ganbare urame
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>>4287523
>Kronii is gay
piano teacher story...
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>>4287634
That's far from the only one. Across the last year Kronii has been pretty annolyingly opening up about how much she is into dudes. She is bi at most.
But you are replying to someone who doesnt care, he just spammed some posts here to hit bump limit. He has already forgotten about this thread.
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>>4287640
fr, kroniiposting should be a bannable offence
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>>4287653
Shut the fuck up. I didn't say anything close to that. Shitposters like you are the ones who need to get banned.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apYccf_uEsM
The end of AquaShio. They really were the best Hololive duo.
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>>4287610
She went and picked Choco... no wonder she's still single
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>>4287679
Some reactions from the discarded girls
https://x.com/SukitouLuccica/status/1833163979461689606
https://x.com/SukitouLuccica/status/1833167091576472000
https://x.com/Naraka_2434/status/1833161525609251167
https://x.com/huejima_kotori/status/1833163319928357347
https://x.com/kurikoma_komaru/status/1833164004719775819
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>>4289253
PanPiano yuri fanfiction? I don't even understand this level of crackshipping anymore.
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alright vt/u/ber general, do your worst. give me a reason why not to be happy and support Cyan Nyan dating Asahi Lina. the negative attitude here always has some shit to say about actual gay vtuber relationships.
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>>4289273
It's just yuri bait. She played a game and reacted to a guy character too positively one time, clearly a bislut. They're doing lesbian sex in too masculine a way. If you doxx her and go back through 3 past lives she was in a collab with a m*le once.

(I don't actually know anything about either of them, but throwing those at a wall until everyone gets tired of taking the bait seems to be the playbook. I hope they have a good time with each other though.)
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>>4289275
You are such an autist. When these things are said it's because they are fact. They are not bait. When we have proof a girl is married to man irl or if it's obvious two Vtubers are yuribaiting for content or if they have stated before that they are straight and even had boyfriends, just fucking accept it.

People here aren't telling you this shit because they want less yuri, it's because they don't want to live in delusion.
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>>4289273
See what I mean? Note the ol' reliable 'I'm only stating facts' combo'd into 'if I think it's obvious that means it's a fact and if you disagree you're just delusional', the classic 'one-drop rule' of past behavior, no matter how past, being treated as disqualifying, all in support of the the overarching position 'because they don't meet my purity standard I'm going to enforce my own purity standard on everyone else'.
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>>4289284
Nope, in most cases it is actually backed by facts. If someone just spouts a rrat we always point it out.
"One bad behaviour" doesn't really apply to "is currently married to a man", now does it?
"One bad behaviour" doesn't apply to the Vtuber just literally stating she is straight, now does it?

Your strawman looks almost as dumb as you.
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>>4289288
>I have crippling autism and treat rumors as facts because I am desperate to act superior on the internet.
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>>4289315
If you think people are just repeating rumors when they say Azki or Mio are married, then I'd suggest doing more research.
But no, your reply will be that you aren't "autistic enough" to look it up. But you are autistic enough to say it's all rumors. It's like a vicious cycle of ignorance.
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>>4289273
Is the blonde a woman? It sounds a bit fake, plus she had a problem with a trans guy who told her that "she" is a man
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>>4289316
Except that anon is hardly talking about Azki, c'mon anon don't play dumb, most female vtubers get a "well she's actually married" baseless rrat which is taken completely seriously and spreads everywhere.
You can swap "married" for your favorite BS
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>>4289349
And as I told you, when someone just spouts a stupid rrat we mock them. This doesn't change the fact that a lot of Vtubers aren't as mysterious and unknown as you would like to believe. Sometimes an alt account is just well known and evidence is irrefutable.

I have nothing to say about Cyan Nyan or whoever, my response was to the idiot pretending that genuine facts should be ignored because he doesn't want to believe them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKackawF_Kw
These two are totally fucking
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>>4289392
nice
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She could score all of them but…
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>>4289895
>takamori the most idol like
>takotori the most fun
>kiarissa the most weird
>pavonashi the most loving
I know they're only screencaps of various lives and MVs but REINE WON
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>>4289964
Reine is definitely Kiara's best option.
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Been a while since we saw these two together
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1DA2Ec8BZ0
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>>4289995
She's busy with Nerissa right now
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>>4290194
Nerissa is such a fake bitch though.
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>>4290176
Is Isya still in deep denial about being a dyke?
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>>4290194
They're sleeping in one bed again
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>>4290367
Was about to post that, so they aren't in the same bed right? This is just kiara baiting right?
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>>4290428
Have they any reason to be meeting in real life right now? If they do it hardly matters. This isn't the first time some girls shared a bed when staying over somewhere together.
If they shouldn't even be in the same place, then it might either be a joke we don't get the context of or it's supposed to hint at them meeting up.
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>>4290444
I can't answer any of that I'll just wait for the twitter space
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>>4290444
i thinkk kiara mentioned being on a trip with nerissa i can't remember if she mentioned why. kiara does just tend to go on trips with people though
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>>4290462
nevermind she just said it in a tweet lol
https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/1834576888263479471
https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/1834706086643089433
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>>4290462
>>4290464
If they are on a trip then they might just be staying in the same hotel. Nothing too special about sharing a bed then. I still remember that story of when Reine kept writing on Kiara's back in bed.
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https://x.com/Tomoe_Shirayuki/status/1834789173259387229

Aw shit, Tomoe is going on an indefinite hiatus
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>>4290639
Tomoe does often have health issues, but I wonder if this is connected to that recent scandal instead...
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>>4290654
It is
She allegedly got creepshots taken, and came pretty close to being rpd
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>>4290674
This would be a good time to have a supportive girlfriend. Goddamit Sukoya...
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https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1834925061586973147
COMING SOON, tomorrow!
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>>4290860
Marine is a tiny goblin who barely reached up to Nerissa's chest. That art is really overcompensating by making her seem so tall. Is she standing on a stepladder?
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>>4290927
I forget how fucking short Marine is sometimes. There is like only a few members shorter then her and they're like child tier in size.
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>>4290860
Marine is too much of a pussy to do anything, look what happens when someone does it to her.
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sasayuri nene new outfit
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LjRGIky298
This isn't even an accident anymore, she can literally see what these poses do before she picks them!
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>>4292117
Of course nobody mentioned it, these whores are het as shit. If I wanted to listen to straight bitches pretending to fuck each other I'd go to Pornhub.
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https://x.com/mrmk_z/status/1835962325653766430
A yuri artist make an illustraction
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>>4292943
Who cares? The art itself isn't yuri.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnbyhYezmsk&t=7720s
Time stamped it. Biboo and Shiori were screwing around and Biboo for some reason decided to say she thinks CC and Gigi are into each other and CC got very flustered and super defensive instantly
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>>4293608
Gigi just laughing as Ceci is desperately trying to turn it back on Shiori and Biboo is really funny
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Condolences to any GurAme or AmeTori fans here.
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>>4294644
I dont even know what this is about, but nobody ever took these ships seriously. They are just for fun and have been pretty dead for a while. Especially after Ame had her retarded breakdown about shipping a year ago.
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>>4294649
She was terminated without graduaction
Very cheap, i am sure she was caught like Rushia xd
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>>4294660
I'm pretty sure I saw her upload an 8 minute video earlier this day saying something about talking. I wonder if it's connected to that.
>i am sure she was caught like Rushia
Also what the fuck does that even mean? Rushia wasn't even in a relationship and Hololive doesn't terminate people for being in one. She got fired for violating her NDA.

With Mel getting fired recently in a similar manner I sure wonder what's going on behind the scenes. Aqua graduating on her own terms is almost an achievement at this point.
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>>4294649
she's graduating, but it's not really relevant to /u/ since most of her ships are inactive anyway (unless you count ENreco). she's not completely leaving but will not stream anymore and won't be there for most events with other members
>breakdown about shipping
When was this?

>>4294660
>>4294663
not terminated, have no clue what this anon is saying. if anything they worded the graduation announcement in a really weird way that got people thinking she was joining hololive staff instead
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>>4294666
>When was this?
I just told you. Sometime last year. She shit the bed complaining that people called her gay or something. Scolding people that she never claimed to be gay. She has also gotten upset over shipping several times across the years.
>she's not completely leaving but will not stream anymore
That's not different from a termination though. Even if she does a graduation stream. Maybe someone should watched that video I mentioned and find out.
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>>4294668
If you're referring to a termination in the sense of it not being her decision but the companies then no she wasn't terminated. She's leaving by her own choice on good terms (confirmed by herself and some myth members) and said she has reasons but none of them are personal and there's no drama, she's still streaming for 10 more days, planning to do collabs and will have a graduation. Very standard graduation other than the bit about her not fully leaving.
There is honestly not that much information in the video, she'll likely talk about it more in the next few days. Both Ina and Calli have said that they don't really know what Ame's future involvement in hololive is going to be. So she could still take part in collabs, events etc or not

I do not think it is that surprising, she has not been a super active streamer and is clearly burnt out. There's about as much reason to believe she's been terminated as there is for Aqua's graduation.
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>read Shiranai koto kenkyuukai 2 for the subtext scraps
>random, nonsense, forced, absolutely disgusting dick joke out of fucking nowhere
VTuber culture is cancer.
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Ao in shambles, Kanade was into mommies all along
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRN0lozQqRc
Incidentally I really don't like those "X will get mad" comments, it's the same shit that killed NoeFure's flirting, just let them express their feelings ffs
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>>4295900
The hell is this chat log from?
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>>4295937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc2psl4Ru-Y
nerissa, she got sick after her trip with kiara
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>>4295940
I asked where the chat log is from not what it was about...
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>>4295942
And I told you where the chat log is from.. with a link at the start of my message? Unless you're asking about the log screenshot itself then the anon who posted that took it from holodex (considering the UI). you can also see chat logs on hololyzer https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/realtime/supana/Jc2psl4Ru-Y.html
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>>4295944
Yes I wanted to know how they filtered the holomember messages out like that.
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>>4295945
yeah then it's holodex if you click the show TLs button and expand it
https://holodex.net/watch/Jc2psl4Ru-Y
as far as i know it shows verified channels, mods and I believe those who are tagged as vtubers for their log. Messages that start with TL also show up for translations which is useful for some JP streams and recently holoGTA. i thought you were asking which stream it was from my bad anon
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>>4295910
Shiranui kensetsu is credited as the original planner and there is a talk at the end of the volume where the five of them discuss how they came up with ideas for the chapters. The thing itself is not even an original thing but it came from a Noel's stream that got clipped like 100 times like any other shimoneta because vtuberfags are nothing but coomers that get excited when a woman talks about that shit. It's also obviously one of the many made up stories they say to pander to that audience because there's no way a japanese person can confound さ with ち and it doesn't even make sense in the contest.
Anyway, regardless of who is the person who came up with it, putting such a shit in a girls-only CGDCT school comedy is nothing but a proof of a mental illness.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQbCC930-ks
Real couple this time
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tags: NTR, unrequited love, drunk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKSslpbIe0Y&t=19809s
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Amelia honest reason to leave, is because she get tired of her simps,
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Emoi proposal though it doesnt mean much considering its matsuri and zeta.
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Reine's currently playing blood lily loop, the VN that was custom made for her because she wanted more lesbos
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>>4298010
There are literally 100s of yuri VNs, RPGmaker games and proper games out there and she picks this shitty cheap indie horror RPGmaker series that is 99% het?
When will someone finally tell her to play Fatal Twelve. It's literally her dream game. Stupid death game, lots of dark themes, detective stuff and a major yuri ending.
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>>4298284
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Coming up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNBoFMfcl_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJnmNMOoDzg
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>>4298014
>There are literally 100s of yuri VNs
A bit of a tremendous exaggeration, and the moment you take away the more obscure stuff that nobody knows about and NSFW they can't stream, it basically trims the list to around 10
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>>4298410
You are full of shit. On every level. Obscure? Bitch, she plays shitty RPGmaker games. NSFW? There are also a hundred SFW yuri VNs and if you add real games to it the number just grows.
All you are revealing here is you total and utter lack of knowledge.
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>>4298411
Yes, obscure, otherwise you'd see way more yuri vtubers playing those
And playing relatively unknown RPG maker games doesn't make her knowledgable, I've come across that stuff by pure chance
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>>4298450
Or maybe "yuri Vtubers" dont actually care about yuri games. Reine certainly doesn't. She has said many times she doesnt play games for the yuri, it's just a bonus to her. Probably to hide her power level.
Yuri VNs and games are not any more obscure than any other indie game these days. I would recommend not being an idiot.
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>>4298411
>NSFW? There are also a hundred SFW yuri VNs
And some of those NSFW yuri VNs usually have SFW versions. I could swear the Sonohana series at least have SFW versions.
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>>4298484
Uhm... I dont think they ever made all ages versions for the SonoHana games. Especially not the earlier ones. They are firmly eroge. Pretty tame stuff of course, but still not something you can stream without precaution. Miko used to stream some eroge and just covered the screen... but that probably wouldn't fly today.

Either way, if nobody points Reine at the good stuff she probably will never look for it. Fatal Twelve is definitely the most optimal, as it is SFW and has all her favorite tropes.
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https://youtube.com/shorts/qjZOIRVLe5E?si=fF_sXZUgaAmwD4jA
Clearly into woman
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3KibqYPAc
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>>4298757
Wow they are still together? I give them 4 more months. Vtuber relationships never seem to last when they start during the vtuber phase.
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>>4299191
They know each other before been vtubers

Also alex is wealthy..
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Kanade had her fill
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My favorite type of white girl
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>>4299498
You found the one non-important girl on girl kiss in an avalanche of garbage that is this game.
This shit is so misleading. The game is anything but gay. The devs are homophobes from /v/ who think making cringy edgy humor is a statement. It's so fucking stupid that yuri fans keep falling for this shit, when the entire series makes fun of lesbians and only has doomed endings for anything gay.
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extremely cute
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how simp she can be?
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>saves her last 1 on 1 collab for gura
>looking through their old DMs together
Amesame will always be the best. I'll miss them dearly.
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>>4299515
I like the yuri art and aus tho....
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https://www.youtube.com/live/ZuTFD_sOjPY?si=TxEnPUJnnLToMuFs
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>>4299648
They haven't been relevant for years, so this is more like a band-aid. Better than nothing I suppose.
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>>4299668
What's the point of posting streams locked for channel members?
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>>4299648
they definitely kissed at one point
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>>4299937
That just reminds me that CharHelix basically had sex on stream on Youtube and got away with it.
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>>4299853
it was unlisted when i first posted, they had to members-only it because it was too steamy. you should def follow them though, they're similar to crossick
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>>4299956
What's wrong with you? You posted a reply without tagging me, then you delete it and only post the reply again ages after I already replied.
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>similar to crossick
It really was lightning in a bottle.
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>>4300237
If you think Micomet is better then you gotta post just as much art to prove it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2VTRUwnfh4
There is just literally no way Luna doesn't want to fuck the duck.
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>>4300249
Luna grooming Subaru into becoming a dyke didn't clue you in?
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>>4300255
She has been doing it for years, but Subaru seems too straight to ever truly give in. The thing is that Luna seems to just toy with her, unlike back with Matsuri, so we can never be sure.
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>>4300247
Matsuri seems to be a bit of a miscast here.
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