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>(Seducing)>Y-Yuki!>Mayu? What's wrong?>Um~ Yuki, where's your underwear?>Would it turn you on more if I was wearing underwear?>Th-Thaaat's not what I meant at all!?
I recently come across a conspiracy theory.So, Otona Precure was first announced March 14th 2024. https://anime-precure.com/news/00021/March 14th was also the date when Japan passed law recognizing international marriage. It is known as International Marriage Day (国際結婚の日). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_marriage_(Japan)With how Otona ended, the announcement turns out to be foreshadowing that Nozomi and Coco will get married outside of Japan at the end of Otona.And here's the kicker. Mahoutsukai sequel is also announced at the same time. So perhaps Mirai and Liko will follow suit...And what merch Toei released way back in March 2016?The hinamatsuri art (which Toei now used to tease Iroha x Satoru).Coincidence? I THINK NOT!I'll be honest, after knowing the conspiracy theory, MiraLiko marriage coin just went up!
>>4305445Interesting theory.
Sisters, is it all over for us in Wonderful?
>>4305445Marriage is the only acceptable outcome of a Maho sequel.
>>4305595While not quite as bad as the het romance tumors in Happiness Charge, unless there's a last minute Yuki/Mayu hookup, I don't think there's any hope in this series.
>>4305595I only care about YukiMayu, the series hasn't been good for me outside of that couple, so as long as nothing bad happened with YukiMayu, I don't really are what happen with Wonderful.It is one of those series where there should be supercut of only YukiMayu content.Though my biggest problem with het content is the yuri romance always suddenly treated as "lesser form" when het romance exist. Like how one of the yuri character has to say they "don't know what love feels" (it happened with Mahoutsukai too), even though everything about the yuri pairing is just like the het pairing.Mahoutsukai at least has MiraLiko become Haa-chan parent before episode 34 (when the het episode happened) and grows into an even gayer couple later (episode 49, manga's final chapter, the last voice drama episode), so Toei better gives YukiMayu something equally gay.Also, not so fun fact, Mahoutsukai het episode was written by Fumi Tsubota who later become the main writer for Hugtto.
>>4305623I'm on the same boat, as long as YukiMayu is fine, I don't really care if Iroha marries the sheep, but sadly the heteronormativity of the writer/director/whoever has already permeate into them, turning Mayu into an obnoxious het shipper that now "doesn't know what love feels like" despite her feelings for Yuki going way beyond pure friendship (as opposed to Iroha and Komugi)So I think I'll just sit out the rest of the season, unless something extremely gay happens, I just can't trust this staff to do YukiMayu justiceA shame, they could've had a het couple and a (subtext heavy) lesbian couple and everyone would be happy, but they choose to push the het
>>4305677To be fair, they’be been insisting in the family angle for the relationships been owner and pets because they don’t want to turn the show into beatiality/zoophilia controversies So any official material will deny Mayu/Yuki romance to avoid zoophilia allegationsThe “animal turned human but their true form is still a talking animal” has too many thorny stuff that a family friendly show for little girls will never want to touchToei don’t want angry parents claiming their show promotes fucking your pet
>>4305715How fucking convenient.
>>4305715>they’be been insisting in the family angle for the relationships been owner and petsFamily angle (sisters, siblings, cousins, etc.) has been used to denies yuri relationship for decades.And this would've been the fourth time precure feature human x animal relationship (first is Yes5 [Nozomi Coco, Hitomu Nuts, Karen Milk], second is Hugtto [Homare Harry, Harry Hug-tan], third is Hirogaru Sky [Elle want to marry Tsubasa episode], and fourth is this one), so it is pretty apparent that Toei doesn't care about zoophilia controversies, which are mostly only exist in western fanbase anyway.So I find this is more of a case of good old not wanting parent to be angry about lesbian content instead of anythign to do with beastiality content.>>4305677This is a case of Toei want to have cake and eat it too.They won't commit to YukiMayu verbally, but they sure will keep showing imagery of YukiMayu.Like Iroha and Satoru are both within eachother eye. Which is something that happened with YukiMayu. But oh sure Toei, Mayu "never been in love"...
>>4305715The thing is, you don't have to confirm anything, I understand the human x pet ships are a fine line to walk, since they're not 100% fairies or other magical beings (even if for all intents and purposes, they're the same thing), but you can't write a romance in everything but name and then pretend it wasn't like that, just like it would've been weird for Satoru to never confess or anythingAnd if it's lesbians they're so scared of... then I'm certainly worried about Maho s2 now, even with a late night slot, it will still be associated with precure
I feel like with YukiMayu, they super wanted to commit to a romance between them, but due to the unfortunate timeslot restrictions, they couldn't. I doubt this whole "I've never been in love" thing'll really stop anyone from shipping YukiMayu though, which is good. It's probably just a way to sate the anger of parents if anything. (Especially considering the whole eye reflection thing in this episode more or less confirming what they were going for with YukiMayu.) There's nothing to worry about at present honestly, y'all. Mirai Days still seems very likely to go ahead with the Yuri, the evidence in favor is pretty heavy. And YukiMayu is likely to be the same lovey dovey YukiMayu that we've had up until now.
>>4305733The "animals" you mention are magic beings with sentience and human form from the start. It's different from Wonderful treating Yuki and Komugi as normal animals until the mirror stone gives them humanityIt's the same with the monsters. Corrupted or not, they're treated as normal animals and thus the Cures don't use violence against them to avoid animal abuseThe premise of "what if your pet turns human" sounds normal for a kids show but also is limited since any romance or anything will read as weird zoophilia since they're still earth animals at the end of the day. It's not something Toei was ready to handle the moment they want to make a romance with Iroha and Satoru Because that means romance is on the table but they can't acknowledge the implications of Yuki and Mayu Like it or not: Mayu being a cat is super problematic>>4305773That depends on how they want to go about it. To look at other Toei franchise: the Kamen Rider adults stuff (Shin, Black Sun, Amazons) has lots of stuff that wouldn't fly in a main seasonWhich by the way: the other anon mentioned NozoCoco. But NozoCoco didn't properly get together like Iroha and Satoru until the adults spinoff Otona. So my hopes for any Yuki/Mayu stuff'd be in an Otona spinoff if it ever gets madeAnother possibility is just that Narita just likes het and has no preference towards yuri and thus, this isn't restricitons but Narita being a het writer. Maho 2 has a different writer (Murayama Isao, who wrote the main show), so it may not be as doomed
>>4305801>The "animals" you mention are magic beingsExcept Harry was a normal hamster who gain power to transform. Homare even has Harry as a pet in final episode. Tsubasa is also a bird who later can transform into human thanks to Mashiro's grandma. A bird who can talk, but he always insisted that he is a bird, not a human. The Wonderful movie interview also treat him as animal like Komugi, Yuki, and Daifuku, while Mofurun as fake animal (she is a doll, afterall).There is nothing about Yuki (Mayu is a human, not a cat) that hasn't been done by Toei before.Now, I don't actually think Toei will make YukiMayu confess and be couple like Satoru Iroha, but I do wish they don't make Mayu said "I never been in love" because a) that's clearly false based on what the show has shown to us so far and b) it put yuri relationship in "lower level" compared to the het relationship because even though YukiMayu has experience many of the same thing that IrohaSatoru experience, it is not considered "love" simply because it is yuri.
>>4305821Tsubasa and Harry were still sentient all the time and from a magical world. Not literally an animal like Yuki.Seethe all you want but Yuki's origin IS objectively an obstacle. It's not about yuri being inferior or whatever (could be a part of it, specially given Narita) but about being desperate to deny any implications of the cures fucking animals Anothe difference is that first contact with Harry and Tsubasa was when they could transform to humans and were basically magic transforming humans from the POV of the cures. Meanwhile Mayu met Yuki as a cat with no magical properties or human sentience: just a cat. This is gonna have issues. like it or not and you trying to compare to magic animals with human form or at least sentience is a false equivalentI wouldn't assume evidence of anti-yuri agenda. Just playing it safe and avoiding any weid implications. You could say the wedding with Coco's fairy form was kinda weird in that aspect, but that's also Otona and if KR is any evidence, Toei have different regulations for the adult-targeted spinoffs than the regulations they apply to the main seasons aimed at children
>>4305773>then I'm certainly worried about Maho s2 now, even with a late night slot, it will still be associated with precureNah, there are just too many hints that it will be a lot more yuri than the morning TV show. The producer is also a die hard MiraLiko fans who said that Pink Diamond meaning has something to do with the sequel. And we get this visual.Also, Toei clearly treat different medium differently. Like Otona has the Cure drunk and wasted, something that will never happen in their morning TV show. They allow Mirai and Liko to kiss in the manga. And despite the doom and gloom, we don't get all boy Cure in the morning tv show and that only exist in the live stage.So I am confident Mirai Days is safe. It is only the morning show that still disappointing.
People mention parents, but aren't the parents of the current Precure fanbase millennials?Views on same-sex issues around the world have always had quite a large generational divide, and the current parent group are part of a generation where most would probably not be bothered by a same-sex relationship in Precure.
>>4305824>that first contact with Harry and Tsubasa was when they could transform to humansWhen Hana meet Harry, he was a hamster and first transformed into human in episode 2. He is from the future when Hana and friends are adult, but it is still the same world. And he is not sentient all the time, he was normal hamster before Criasu corps give him power, that's why Homare can have him as a pet in the final episode (in this timeline there is no Criasu corp).And the first time Sora and Mashiro meet Tsubasa (which was when they visit Mashiro's grandma house) he was a bird who never talk, until episode 8 (Cure Nyammy first appeared in episode 11). From the Cure perspective, especially Mashiro who have seen Tsubasa for years by that point, he was Mashiro's Grandma's pet who gain ability to become human, just like Yuki.And Japan's folklore is chockful of animal transforming into human who then married human (there is kitsune myth, there is myth that if cat is old enough they changes into human, there is a crane myth who married farmer that saves her life, etc.). Fictional animal who become human and then have relationship with human is simply isn't that problematic in Japan.>I wouldn't assume evidence of anti-yuri agenda.As I said, Toei want to have its cake and it eat too. They will gives us visual cue in their morning show that two girls are in love because they know shipper like it, but they won't commit to verbal confirmation because they afraid parents will throw hissy fit. That such policy make the yuri relationship place below het relationship is an unfortunate implication they are willing to swallow.Like I am sure we'll get YukiMayu content next episode, where they will be in a date, just like IrohaSatoru (the episode is called "everyone's date" afterall). But IrohaSatoru will be verbally confirmed as couple, while YukiMayu will remain just has visual to please the shipper.I mean its a bloody aquarium date, it is so obvious will have YukiMayu content.
>>4305886There's still a large number who view Homosexuality negatively unfortunately.The big thing though is TV regulations that heavily restrict what can and cannot be shown on Morning Television, especially Sunday Morning Television. In time, there's a chance those restrictions could be loosened, but until then, Sunday Morning Precure will likely never have any kind of explicit Lesbian relations, sadly. (Still though, keep your hopes up for Mirai Days. I tell you, they're going in on MiraRiko.)
>>4305889You are once again dishonestly failing to see the difference beetween mystical/magic shit. And actual animals as the Yuki. Komugi and the villains areI'm not even sure how intentional the Mayu/Yuki thing is, it could be an accident from writing Yuki with typical cat traits but human like Komugi has her dog traits translated to her human personalityPoint is: no matter how much you insist, the people in charge see a difference beetween Yuki/Komugi and previous fairies or magic animals with human form, and the "sisters" relationship is their official cope and thusm they can't have Mayu admitting any romance that would involve Yuki. They must in fact insist in the family relationship and deny romanceThis is the rules we're playing with until this gets some kind of Otona-style spinoff for older audiences. It's not an anti-yuri agenda. It's damage control before they're accused of goddamn bestiality propaganda
>>4305903What also needs to understand is that a lot of the people in positions of power in Japan are still old people with very outdated views. Even if younger generations with a more positive view of homosexuality are now the parents of the little girls watching Precure today, the old people in charge will still play safe and keep to the rules they know work instead of rocking the boatIt's the same way in A LOT of things, which is why Japan is so slow to change and even gay marriage is still not legalized.
>>4305928>I'm not even sure how intentional the Mayu/Yuki thing is, it could be an accident from writing Yuki with typical cat traitsNow let's not be silly, in their first interaction Mayu is already calling Yuki (in human form) beautiful and it only goes up for there, with them saying they want to be together forever in the climax, you don't write that "accidentally" (plus they're getting really shippy merch)
>>4305928>no matter how much you insist, the people in charge see a difference beetween Yuki/Komugi and previous fairies or magic animals with human formProof it then.Because here is exhibit A where Toei treat Tsubasa, Komugi, Yuki, and even Mofurun as the same thing: https://x.com/precure_movie/status/1842006730156474563Here is interview where the movie staffs treat Mofurun just like Komugi and Yuki: https://lp.p.pia.jp/article/news/378925/index.html?detail=trueWhere is your proof that "people in charge" see difference between Yuki/Komugi and the past fairies?
>bestiality this, bestiality thatI don't see a point to this debate, there's been 20 precure series and none of the characters were confirmed lesbian, so I very much doubt it would have happened this time either, regardless of animals being involved.
>>4305952The fact they go so hard on the family cope and denial is the only evidence you need. They didn't do that for other popular gay ships like Mirai/Liko or Sora/Mashiro, or Yukari/Akira. And meanwhile other fairies have also been treated the same as human characters. It's Komugi and Yuki who are limited in how far they can go with their writing and it's obvious why
>>4305958True. But in past seasons, they are happy to play in the lines of ambiguous subtext, never confirmed but never deniedHere they outright deny it and it's obvious Yuki being a cat is a reason why. They're playing it safe and wanting to avoid trouble
>>4305595It's Wonderfulover. Personally i was never sold on this pairing (I know how Precure (Children shows play). MiraLiko is clearly the one WE should be paying attention to
>>4305961>But in past seasonsSee this >>4305623 They did the same thing with MTP. In fact, as I rewatch the episode again, this week Wonderful remarkably similar to the MTP one. We have a friend who is in love (Iroha in WPC, Mayumi in MTP), someone need explanation (Iroha in WPC, Haa-chan in MTP), someone tries to explain how love is different from friendship (Mayu in WPC, Mirai in MTP), and someone said they don't understand love (Mayu in WPC, Liko in MTP). There's even someone who become morale support for the person who fall in love (Mehmeh, Niko, and Daifuku in WPC, Kana in MTP). Yoshimi Narita, you hack!But to be a bit more serious, I don't think they are going to remove YukiMayu or no longer focus on them. It just an annoying habit Toei keep doing where they the moment a het relationship exist, the writer has to insert line to the mouth of a yuri character that they never know what love is to justify why the het relationship is special.
>>4305961Eh, to give the benefit of the doubt, it's perfectly in character for Mayu to not realize any possibly romantic affections she has for Yuki yet (she probably never will in the span of the show, but that's besides the point). The Doki novel doesn't particularly shift the status quo when it comes to relationships (other than platonically or if you count one-sided crushes). That said, there's an interesting scene between Alice and Rikka after Mana leaves for a training trip where Alice reminds Rikka about her speech during the Christmas episode and how it indicates that the bond of love between Mana and her is higher than the mountains and deeper than the seas. Rikka denies there's anything special, and says that she was describing how they all feel about Mana, but Alice thinks she's being dishonest. Alice then asks if she loves Mana. Rikka then goes into an internal monologue about how she definitely likes Mana. She insists that it's probably different than romantic love between a man and a woman (clarifying that she's not completely sure of the difference since she has no experience), only to then think about how Mana cut off the love they've cultivated over the years, and that her one-sided feelings will never reach Mana. Alice then proceeds to say that just because Rikka can't reach Mana right now, Rikka can't stop thinking about her. After all, that is love. She then ends the conversation by insisting that Rikka hold onto her feelings and that Mana will come back as it says in the letter Mana left for Rikka. The author leaving things ambiguous here feels more like it is done because it wouldn't make sense characterwise for Rikka to actually realize that she's in love with Mana at that moment in time than any particular mandate, so I can believe the same applies to Mayu.
>>4306112>It just an annoying habit Toei keep doing where they the moment a het relationship exist, the writer has to insert line to the mouth of a yuri character that they never know what love is to justify why the het relationship is specialLet's hope that's the case, at least as tired, old and obnoxious as that message is, it isn't total character assassination
>>4307542Oh wow this picture is amazing. It's like Honoka and Nagisa were always one and the same.
>>4308755
Mirai Days OP's been performed. https://x.com/laurahyginus/status/1845224206444921310
Found the lyrics for the Mirai Days OP.From what the song looks like and from the lyrics, it seems that Romance is looking more and more likely, on top of everything else we've seen so far. I actually think the chance of MiraRiko becoming canon is becoming higher and higher. We'll see when we get the PV on the 12th next month, but the chances are looking solid.
Looking back at Part 1 and Part 2 lyrics, they perfectly summarized the plot of the first and second half of MTP, so I think it is safe to assume that Part 3 is also a summary of Mirai Days plot.I used MTL so it most certainly isn't perfect, but some part caught my eye.There is line that says "no such a thing as spell to stop tears of love", pretty much confirmed some kind of romance will be in it (MiraLiko get married intensified).There is clock ticking sound, so somekind of time travel is included.It mentioned how time is sweeping present to the past, grain of happy time is collected into jewelry so they can be freed into the future.So the plot probably involved the Cures travel back to the past so they can collect linkle stone from that time and use them in the fu-Hey, wait a minute, is this Endgame?The second verse is talking about smartphone and someone is waiting in the distance.And that instead of slumbering in peace, they should "dive in" to the next encounter.This either talking about Haa-chan when she was trying to stabilize the two world in episode 49, or the Cure is time traveling with the smartphone.And I think that's it the portion that explaining the plot.So in summary, there will be something that happened in the present that force the Cure to the past. In order to return to the present (or to save the present), they have to collect all Linkle Stone again. Their smartphone is going to play a role here.There are 12 linkle stones and 12 episodes, so we might see them collect 1 stone per episode with Pink Diamond in episode 1, assuming we only get 12 episodes.But Emerald is with Haa-chan, so unless Haa-chan is captured, they might only need to gather 11 stones and the final episode is just final battle plus epilogue (MiraLiko married intensified).If Pink Diamond is any indication, then the other Link Stone probably changes too, so hopefully we'll get new form for the other linkle stone like Ruby.
>>4309612While I would say your theorisation of the plot itself is maybe a touch farfetched, I'd say your understanding of the OP is pretty solid.I do think that there could be Time Travel shenanigans involved, and Love almost seems guaranteed to play a part in the plot, but I'm not sure if there'd be anything regarding gathering the Linkle Stones, simply because we don't know what Pink Diamond does quite yet, and I imagine it's a one of a kind upgrade. That said, we'll find out for certain next month, since Riko's birthday is almost guaranteed to be when we get the PV for Mirai Days: much like how we got news on Mirai's Birthday and how we got news on the day that marks the midpoint of Riko and Mirai's Birthdays. Naitou-P is cooking, that's for sure.
>>4305827>>4309533With every new piece of info it gets more promising.
>>4309615>but I'm not sure if there'd be anything regarding gathering the Linkle StonesI actually very confident the story will be about gathering Linkle Stones (again). Gathering Linkle Stone has been used as the backbone of the story in both part 1 and part 2. Every stories in MTP (MiraLiko relationship, Haa-chan's development, supporting characters' stories) always end up with the Cures get a Linkle Stone (or closer to get one).Looking at previous opening, they also summarize how the linkle stone is going to be used in the story.The lyric in part 1:"We should look for treasureTo find new dreams shining like jewelsThe diamond's light makes way for the rubyAs we fly over the sapphire seaBut if you make your dream shine through the topazYou can create miracles"Which describe the Linkle Stones in part 1: They are spreadout throughout the magical and mundane world, Diamond allow the Cure to find Ruby, Sapphire is located in the seas and allow them to fly, and Topaz is powered through imagination.The lyric in Part 2:"This strange jewel keeps changing its colorOur fantasy continues on being infiniteOur hands link us to the wings of dreamsLetting us soar over the rainbow"It describe Alexandrite (which has meaning of 'embracing changes') and Linkle Stone's spirit which unlock Extreme Rainbow attack and gives Miracle and Magical a cape that looks like wing.So I am very confident that this verses in Part 3 describe another linkle stone gathering:"The particles of happy timesAre collected into JewelryWhen released toward the futureIt will shine in the color of miracle"To me it is pretty clear that it has something to about gathering memories of the past into linkle stone and then use them in the present.Though, I am not sure if the Cure will transported to the past, or they simply reminiscent about the past, or something else related to the past.
>>4309777My speculation is that the enemy is related to Deusmast, and they are trying to prevent the Cure from defeating Deusmast by altering past events. The Cures then have to travel to the past, so they can stop them and get new linkle stones to finally defeat the enemy in the present. So we'll probably get to see important/popular episode from MTP (like episode 1 when MiraLiko meet, episode 21 when Haa-chan was born, or episode 49), and some tima travel shinenigan will happen where MiraLiko has to defeat the new enemy without their past selves noticing. At least that is my theory.Could be fun they are looking back at episode 9 and notice how gay their youngerselves are. Heck, maybe they can use episode 34 >>430562 to make Liko said the event in this episode made her realize she was in love with Mirai, and absolve this episode from its sin.But that is just my theory. We still need to wait for further information.
>>4309778I meant to link to this post >>4305623For some reason the number 3 in the is cut off.
>>4309533>永遠まで仲間ね◇もうYou can do better, Toei please
>>4310027That's from the first two ops. It was a cat, then a dog, now it's a pig.
Ultra cute
I think this is the first time Yuki smile and blush in the past couple of episodes?I remember she either looks bored or pouting whenever Mayu fangirling, but not this time.In my head, this is because Yuki just want all the het to be over, and the moment Iroha and Komugi get blessing from Komugi's previous owner, she said (in her head) "finally, something that isn't hetshit".
>>4314114Also, is it just me, or Yuki use her human form longer and longer?Maybe at the end of it she will just use her human form permanently (so she can marry Yuki)...Just kidding. Unless...
>>4314115Yuki is a lot less attached to her cat form than Komugi is to her dog form, true. I don't think that's indicative of anything in particular though
I remember the Maho producer has said that it's not Mirai's or Liko's love story. However, Maho2's op has a romance theme. Interesting.And Maho2's first key visual is by far the gayest official art aside from Futago-sensei's stuff. Toei had never released anything like that before.
>>4315211It's possible that the overall story itself isn't all that focused on romance, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Mirai and Liko aren't in a romantic relationship. This is a stretch, but maybe they get confirmed to be engaged early on so the rest of the story focuses on Haa-chan or whatever.
>>4315211>the Maho producer has said that it's not Mirai's or Liko's love storyCitation needed.
>>4316729
>>4316732That's not about Maho2, it most likely wasn't even planned at the time.
>>4316748Yes, that's about the first season.
>>4315211>>4316732So it isn't MTP's producer (Naito) who said MTP wasn't planned to tell Mirai's and Liko's love story, it was the director (Mitsuka).And I think his wording is more like this:"There is love story, there is popular boy, but from the very beginning there is no plan to tell love story of Mirai and Liko [with him]. Afterall, the story is about their growing relationship and I am very conscious of what I was saying"I add the [with him] bit, because the interviewee ask that when a popular boy exist, people expect love story between him and one of the main character.So the director's answer is less about he doesn't plan to tell Mira's or Liko's love story, but more that the team have no plan to make Mirai and Liko fall in love with popular boy.And his final line ("I am very concious of what I am saying") kinda make me think he did make the story is about Mirai and Liko growing to love each other without outright saying it.
>>4317044You are misreading things because of your machine translation, his final sentence is about keeping a strong awareness that the story was about the bond between Mirai and Liko, which connects to why they didn't want to add a romance between a boy and them into the mix.And again, drawing conclusions about the sequel from an interview that took place years before it was even conceived is entirely misguided, even if they had no intention of having a love story in the first season, it has nothing to do with Maho2, which might very well have been conceived as a love story from the start.
>>4317075That's the point. Something's changed between S1 and S2.
>>4317107Well, the director's different, so that's a pretty big factor. It's the Otona director, probably because they are working with Deen. I'm not that worried since he was basically a puppet director; Otona's issues seem to stem from the producer and writer trying to do too much in a single cour. Alongside Narita being Narita I suppose.
>>4317075>drawing conclusionsI am not talking about MTP2, obviously. I just find the director's answer amusing.Admitedly I am jumping the gun at the end, but I think it is interesting that when the question is "is there love story with boys" his answer is "the story is about Mirai's and Liko's bond".The producer's answer is something that is more generic "There is a love story, it was Mayumi's", so the director's answer become more interesting to ponder. What was in his mind when he directed MTP S1?He personally directed of episode 1 and 49 (obviously he directed the whole season, but these were episodes he personally directed), so when he talked about the growth of Mirai's and Liko's bond, the iconic episode 49 immediately spring to mind, and that episode is absolutely romantic.
https://x.com/precure_15th/status/1850824831673291101New key visual
>>4318942Pink Diamond Magical's trying to seduce Miracle.
>>4318942Yup, Miracle and Magical's boobs definitely look a bit bigger in the sequel. Felice looks a bit smaller than she did before, but maybe that's just because of how she's framed.
>>4318942I love the reference to the first Mahoutsukai Poster.But the lack of other forms make me think we won't see another new form, only Pink Diamond.
English version of the poster.Hopefully this mean we can get simulcast.https://x.com/ToeiAnimationEU/status/1851395637444591834
>>4320192>Witchy Pretty Cure>Maho Girls PrecureCome on.
>>4320192We got it for Otona and CR went out of their way to put the original Maho on their service, so simulcast is pretty much guaranteed
>...hey, Yuki... When you get on my lap, could you return to being a cat...?>Though you're more excited when you see me like this, Mayu...>Now be honest with me... Do you really want me to turn back?
Yes ma'am, her mother is your daughter...Rewatching MTP now, and I really love whenever they are being cheecky with Mirai and Liko as Haa-chan's parent like this.Also, Mirai is the one that gives Haa-chan her given name and later Liko gives Haa-chan her surname (Hanami).I hope in the future we can get another season where two Cures are moms to a daughter. Sora and Mashiro were pretty close, but Elle has another set of parent, unlike MiraLiko.
>>4324292>Also, Mirai is the one that gives Haa-chan her given name and later Liko gives Haa-chan her surname (Hanami).We need more shit like that, like in Assault Lily calling the leads' daughter by their names and forming Yuri
As I am waiting for the next Mirai Days news, I just want to post the second chorus from each MTP opening, because I feel like it kinda spoil the endgame of each part.Part 1We come from...two different placesExperiencing a bit of culture shockBut when we hold handsWe become invinciblePart 2It's okay! Even if a day comesWhen we're ripped apartOur hearts will connect usAlways shining brightPart 3We're all...different peopleWith different ways of feeling love and painBut I think being differentMakes us more amazingA caveat to this, Part 3's second chorus also in the other two parts, but as verse before the final chorus. So this might just be referencing the other parts.However, the fact that it changes place and become second chorus make me think it is more than just a mere reference.
Trailer's up!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdr0WF5pPgI
>>4327244The quality looks amazing, holy fuck.Now there's two things for me to be cautiously optimistic about.
>>4327244>Mysterious manReally Toei? Really?
>>4327253I was hoping for a Gamettsu vs Ha-chan rematch, but a mysterious new villain works for this approach, honestly. Considering Mirai and Riko's "Past and Future" (aka. Their Relationship, most likely) are taking a front focus for this as well, it's possible that the fuckery that he'll cause is the medium for how their relationship will be further explored.
>Mirai LOVES Riko's boobs
>>4327257Yeah, that was my first thought too. Liko's confused about why they're there, but Mirai's happy to see them.
I've never seen the original. If this turns out to be super gay, I'll go back and watch it. Otona '23 kinda ruined Splash Star and Yes! for me.
>>4327260I don't blame you for waiting until Maho 2 is finished before trying the original. There probably won't be any faceless fiances or boyfriends, but you never really know. We'll know for sure by the time it ends in April at least.
>>4327253He's clearly going to be the villain, he's no different than the villains before, the only strange thing was the dog, looks too normal.>>4327260>Otona '23 >ruined Yes! for me.How do you ruin something that was never particularly good?
>>4327264I like Yes, honestly. It has some flaws, but it did some things really well, namely Karen. And I'm NTA, but at the least, I like Otona for Episode 3 at least, it was a good Karen episode and I loved her little bits with Kurumi. The relationship between the two of them has always been one of my favorites.
Karen was gay and Otona kept her gay. Unfortunately, Saki was straight against all odds and Otona kept her straight. Maho will stay gay.
>Liko Birthday>Post image of her and MiraiWhat does Toei means by this?https://x.com/precure_marv/status/1856109658173542615
>>4327270What's weird about celebrating your birthday with your wife?
>>4326997The OP as a whole has a lot of shit that could really hint at where we're going, like how we have "Koi no Namida" in the lyrics. Not to say "You should absolutely get your hopes up", but since it's clear that Mirai and Riko's relationship is taking a big focus in Mirai Days, I'd say there's fair reason to be optimistic, even if a little cautiously so.
>>4327244Not romantic enough. I hope the trailer just didn't spoil much.Mirai and Liko reunited in S1's finale but now what? Their responsibilities didn't go away. Liko has her job and Mirai does her own stuff. That's why Maho always had a good sequel setup. But it's still unclear if Maho2 will actually address it.>謎の敵を退ける一方で、ふたりは自分たちの過去、そして未来と向き合うことになるのだった――。This gives hope the show will be focused more on Mirai and Liko then the "plot".
>>4327244>Trailer's up!>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdr0WF5pPgIAnd here's the subbed version:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soEtjzlrQl0
>>4328045Region locked
>>4328055It worked for U.S. viewers
>>4328044I mean, it's not a show about romance to begin with man...
>>4328248But the opening promised romance.
>>4328248Mirai Days does seem to hint at it though, considering the OP, and THAT image from a couple months back. Even Kitagawa Rie has said that the lyrics matter after all.>>4328044If the season has MiraRiko end up canon, they wouldn't show it in the PV for sure, but it still looks good for us. Considering how little we really know besides the fact that Hisui is somehow related to Ha-chan, and that Mirai and Riko's relationship will be clearly taking a focus, the PV and this set of news don't really clue us in on much. Still though, make sure you luck through the whole OP's lyrics, since they matter and are important, as Kitagawa Rie said.
>>4328268*Look
>>4328055https://x.com/ToeiAnimationEU/status/1856375357475016717Here's the european twitter post. It may not be region locked on your end.>>4328268We'll see what happens in the end. I personally think their relationship will shift dramatically but end up technically platonic. It'll be such as the viewer would have to be brain dead to not notice the implication but ultimately still be barely on the border between subtext and text.
When I search Twitter for みらリコ, the first result is the post for the PV from the Official Precure account. Is it just me, or?>>4328286I don't know. Lines like "Koi no Namida" in the OP, the whole Heart thing in the Logo (including in the paint trail from Mirai and Riko's brooms), and the Pink Diamond (And the veils in the Pink Diamond Outfit (Not to say that I think there'll be a wedding)) make me think it could go romantic, honestly.
>>4328286>https://x.com/ToeiAnimationEU/status/1856375357475016717Pretty much confirmed the lyric spoil the plot (enemy targeting time match the lyric about Linkle Stone about the past; Hisui seems to be somone related to Haa-chan match the smartbook getting update/power up), which make me even more confident it will do something about MiraLiko love life per the second chorus.You know, now that Liko wears monocle, I somehow just realize that both Mirai's and Liko's father are wearing glasses while their mother wears braid. So now Mirai and Liko have the same look as their parents. Hm...
>>4328489*Linkru.
>>4328268>あの日の空 夢の続き 君も見れるねI like this line. Does it refer to ep49?
Pussy sniffing.
50 days left till Mirai Days premiers. Perfect for rewatching (or watching for the first time) the series one episode per day.
>>4332356fantastic, thanks for the heads up.
>>4332356hoping for the best, but keeping expectations low
>>4332356Fun Fact, November 22nd is "Good Spouses Day"/"Good Couples Day" in Japan.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Spouses_Day
>>4332356Also pretty good period to catch up or start wonderful, one episode a day and you will be ready in time for the finale
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2024-11-28/precure-franchise-announces-you-and-idol-precure-anime/.218403We idol Precure now!
>>4336210I don't watch kid's idol shows. What's the chances that it's more yuripandering than anything else?
Anyone got link for Wonderfuf merch? preferably under 2000 yen. Want to send message
>>4336393We don't fancy dealing with a retard >>>/a/
>>4336465pic your poisonhttps://www.amiami.com/eng/search/list/?s_originaltitle_id=35221
>>4336393Watch Aikatsu and Pripara.
>>4336512>maximum number of simultaneous connections has been reached.?>>4327254Maho got great general fights
>>4336553nvm just website traffic. Weird they worded it like i just visit the site recentlyThe one that catch my eye are-Kirarin Swan-puzzle (20/30/40 piecesThe tambourine blow my mind
>>4336210>>4336532I wish it is more Aikatsu and Pripara, but that weird yellow "Kimi to" make me concerned.Both HSP and WPC have their main characters' name in the title (Sora = Sky, Komugi is Cure Wonderful), so I get a bad feeling that "Kimito" is the name of the Idol manager or fan, especially because it shaped and colored differently from the rest of title, which kinda suggest there is a difference between "Kimi to"/"You" and "Idol Precure".I hope I am wrong, or if this "Kimi to" do refer to manager/fan, it will be more like Yuu from Love Live.
I feel like they understand that YukiMayu is a popular enough pairing to not fuck it up, I doubt we will get any closure on them, but at least I trust them to let it be
>>4337581>I trust themYou'll learn.
>>4337581That's what I thought about Saki/Mai, and Otona '23 fucked that up.
>>4338251Yeah, Saki was in love with one boy but decided to marry another man. That wasn't nice.
>>4338258Wait I thought Saki was in love with Mai, what the heck toei.
>>4337581>get any closure on themWhat is "closure" to you?Because if you mean confirmed canon, then that has never and likely will never happen here. I mean if you're holding out for that, you really need to choose a different franchise, this is not the one for /u/.
People who watched EP1 said that it's Maho, it's good and MiraLiko is safe.Apparently, it was screened without the OP and ED.
>>4340061>and MiraLiko is safeGive it time.https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2024-12-07/witchy-precure-mirai-days-sequel-anime-casts-toshiyuki-toyonaga/.218720
>>4340279You didn't even read the article, did you?>a new character who appears in the first episode as shown in Saturday's screening
trust the plan, everyone wants the same outcome for them
Yeah, I'm thinkin MiraiLiko is safe.
>>4340279MiraLiko fans who watched the episode were satisfiedhttps://x.com/hakuryu371/status/1865355227635093841Though the lack of the opening is suspicious.
>>4340308They don't usually do cast announcements for minor characters.
>>4340549Yeah, but that's not the point, the dude was in the pre-screening and raised no suspicions, you don't write a potential love interest like that
>>4340552>important handsome dude who seems to be around the same age as MiraLikoThat's more than enough to raise plenty of suspicions.He's a new character, do you expect him to fuss over Mirai or something the very first time they meet, if they even do?I mean, it's possible, but certainly not the only way to start a romance, if they're going there.
So many Hisui in merch.I guess Mirai and Liko do gives Haa-chan a little sister afterall.I wonder if this is a hint that Hisui will become at least special Precure? Especially because apparently they'll air Cure Mofurun movie a week before Mirai Days first episode.>>4340279I actually chuckled when I read the official website because the first thing they mentioned about the VA is that he voiced "Yuri" from "Yuri on Ice".Maho vs Yuri.I guess season 2's theme is Yuri vs Yaoi afterall...https://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/mahotsukai_precure2/news/2024120701.html
There's so much new Maho info and all you care about is some male. Go to /a/ if you want to talk about men so much. This is a yuri board.
>>4340560>This is a yuri board.Indeed, and the yuri relevance of this series depends solely on the existence of a male love interest, of course that's the most crucial piece of information here.
>>4340561So far we only have your het fanfics.
>>4340562Information tends to point to things anon, I understand if you don't want to think about it though.
>>4340564Your het fanfics are not relevant information.
>>4340279The new guy, Airu, is the "mysterious man" that was in the trailer. You know, the evil looking guy who is probably the main villain, or working for the main villain.I'm not worried about him becoming a love interest. He's there so Miracle and Magical have somebody to beat up.
>>4340581It is pretty apparent that people who haven't watch MTP don't realize that many of S1 bad guys were ikemen (Batty, Kushie, Orba, etc.)How can anyone thing Mirai and Liko would be interested with someone who hurt their daughter is a mystery to me.
>>4340589Yes. The only case they don’t is when they want to hide them like the Wonderful villains coming lateWhy do you want to use the cast announcement to doompost and force hetshit, retard?Do you also ship Mashiro with grasshopper retard villain from Hirogaru?
>>4340593And they had boys their age as friends in the show and nothing happenedThis is obviously the Majimatard coming to other franchises to force his het villain x heroine fetishes
>>4340597Stop replying, this is obviously a concern troll trying to start shit.
>>4340605Thought so.
>>4340558A new daughter is a good idea for a sequel. I hope with Hisui Mirai and Liko start living together.
I'm convinced she'll become a cure.
>>4340542>Though the lack of the opening is suspicious.Could potentially give away that the GoPris or Ala Modes are going to show up sone point.
>>4340542Comparing Hisui art from MTP2 website and the new arts >>4340665 , she clearly grows up like Haa-chan.I think the opening will spoil how Hisui grows up (my prediction is she is going to "eat" the new linkle stones, like Haa-chan when she was little fairy) and maybe spoil that she become a Cure (hopefully).My next speculation, if she become a Cure, I wonder if she will have a duet transformation with Haa-chan, just like their mothers, and maybe allow Felice to finally use the Guardian Linkle Stones?One thing that people want from Felice is to make her use the Guardian Linkle Stones, so maybe we will finally get that?Realistically speaking, this won't happen because we only have 12 episodes, but it is fun to speculate.
>>4340669I hope this stays Maho. It’s only a single cour like Otona, so having smaller cast is better for a limited episode countOtona itself and lots of gacha anime show what happens when you throw too many characters into single cour shows
>>4340555>He's a new character, do you expect him to fuss over Mirai or something the very first time they meet, if they even do?At least in some form, yes, remember this is a 12 episodes season, there's no time for a slow burn romance, so if the guy didn't give any warning signs in episode 1 I'm completely sure MiraiLiko are safe
>>4340696I think Toei's stocks would have a major blood bath if they messed with Mirai/ Liko yet alone Nagisa/Honoka.
>>4340696>remember this is a 12 episodes seasonnot that anon, but 12 episodes is the standard for anime seasons, and there's a ton of them that don't start romances in episode 1
>>4340723A lot of those you mention are adaptations of longer source material that’d need more episodes for a full adaptation Originals that need to tell the whole story in a single cour plus romance do tend to statt the romance and throw signs in episode 1
>>4340686Yeah, the twintails are longer also. Very interesting.
>>4340686>>4340758Looking at the cheeks she's in her younger form in ep1.
>>4340945 But Toei promotes her older form.
>>4340887Hirogaru should've been just Sora and Mashiro for a lot longer. 5! They got FIVE episodes with just the two of them as cures.And while I'm here, take that "boy cure" nonsense and throw him in the trash. He had the worst ships too.Majesty can stay, she gives off "Cure Felice" vibes that I'm ok with.Butterfly can also stay. She's a good wing-woman for Sora/Mashiro, she's a fun girl in her own right and her only problematic aspect is the shipping with Wing.
>>4341042Listen, I'm a yurifag through and through, but I don't understand the blind hatred towards the little boy character that didn't do anything wrong. Wing was nothing but supportive and just minded his business.
>>4341050It's just shitty to shove a boy into the girl super hero show, little boys already have Rider and Sentai if they want to watch boy heroes.
>>4341108Precure has been into experiments lately and they might actually make a full on yuri season.
>>4341234You're more likely to get a full boy season, than a yuri season, not in a country as conservative as Japan
It is pretty funny looking at Japanese twitter goes "who is she? what happens to Haa-chan?" to immediately goes "this is Hisui, MiraLiko second daughter, and Haa-chan's younger sister" after the new merchs' arts come out.
>>4341242I'm not convinced Japan as conservative as you think. Thankfully, it hasn't been touched by Christianity or Islam.
>>4341395It 100% is, and moving moreso every year due to their aging & birthrate crisis. It's a forefront political topic over there. Gay rights have been advancing there too, but anything involving children is an absolute fucking NO MAN'S LAND. They won't be showing any canon gay in Pretty Cure. Tease and bait, oh for sure, as much as the writer can get away with.>b-but the timeslotAny westoid who uses this argument simply does not understand modern Japan one fucking bit. It is rare for people (especially working adults) to watch live shows at 2 AM. That's why there are streaming services like TVer and ABEMA and so on. The vast majority of a show's views come later in the day from whatever streaming service it's on like TVer. Adults and children alike use TVer. There's even apps for ipads and everything. We can already tell from all the merch so far that Maho2 is oriented towards "everyone", it's not a degenerate otaku show. TV timeslots matter very little in that regard, it's more a reflection of how much money a studio spends to get eyeballs on their show. Primetime means more views, while 2 AM is cheap.
>>4341619That's a pretty bleak way of looking at things though, and far too pessimistic, all things considered. Mirai Days is no doubt for "Everyone", but the late night's lack of restrictions is also, true enough, a way of them being able to do things they couldn't do with Sunday Morning Precure. At the end of the day, as Toei has already said, this still is moreso for the Adult fans. If they were to have a Canonically Gay Couple in Precure, Mirai Days is the place to do it. (And I'd say the odds are at least a solid 50/50 anyways.)
>>4341742>And I'd say the odds are at least a solid 50/50 anyways.I sympathize, but you're out of touch with reality.
>>4341619AkiYuka was canon gay. The Kira manga also had a chapter about same-sex love.Gay educational books can be found in school libraries:https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B09DXVTGV8Japan is a modern developed country.
>>4341749I mean, as it stands, objectively, we currently are in a Schrodinger's Yuri Situation. Until we finish watching it, it's an objective 50/50 at least. And based on marketing and content, I'd say that it leans towards being for Yuri anyways, especially considering who's working on the show. Also, side note, the pictures from the event are certainly interesting.
>>4341895>the pictures from the event are certainly interesting.how's the gender split, precure does have a fair bit of older male fans doesn't it
>>4341898I don't know, I wasn't there and there are no pictures of the fans, just pictures of the new kigs and the such, and a picture of the VAs with rings.
>>4341898People say it was mostly men.
>>4341742>(And I'd say the odds are at least a solid 50/50 anyways.)More like 50% chances het, 25% hints of het, 20% just the usual super-friendship, 5% actual yuri.And I'm being generous because the characters are still fairly young in this, so there's fair chances of no romance or unfinalized romance, but if they were the same age as the other Otona it would've been 95% het.
I am surprised nobody hasn't posted this new merch Toei put for Mirai Days.Truly a mystery whether Mirai Days will be yuri or not.
>>4342029Those are random and baseless numbers.The only problem might be because of China.
>>4342140Buy an ad, Toei.
>>4342140I mean, it'll just be "very good friends" as always, they're not going to actually date or be girlfriends or anything, this is Precure. But still, it's always fun to imagine, and the staff is having just as much fun.
>>4342177And what will S2 be about then, mister time traveler?
>>4342156>Those are random and baseless numbers.It's anime numbers.
>>4342177Mirai's and Liko's new civilian outfits look cute but are they still going to use their old ones?
S2 will be focused on Mirai, Liko, their past and future. Mirai and Liko's friendship already peaked in S1 so romance is the only logical development.
>>4343013YukiMayu kisses give me life
>>434202950% chance of het if you count Haa-chan, but as far as Mirai and Liko go, the chance for het is 0%. The chances they'll stay "best friends" is 95% while the chances they'll become actual lesbians is 5%. I do still think it's very unlikely, but Precure is in a pretty experimental phase right now, so I'll at least say it's possible. It would be quite the risky experiment if nothing else.
>>4344775Setting aside the fact that all these probabilities are based on nothing and meaningless, I'd say the chance S2 will be yuri is 85% plus 10% MiraLiko will marry each other. The chance they stay as friends is 5%.
>>4344775No... Ha-chan shouldn't date anyone
>>4344775>>4344874>as far as Mirai and Liko go, the chance for het is 0%>the chance S2 will be yuri is 85% plus 10% MiraLiko will marry each otherWishful thinking.You're disregarding anime industry, sales data, precedents, statistics, society, politics, tradition, etc..., and choosing to only see what accommodates your own feelings on the matter.Don't get me wrong, I'll also always hold hope that a miracle like GWitch happens again, it's not impossible, but let's not kid ourselves about our chances; it's a het world we live in, it's been proven time and time (and time) again, with but a handful of lucky exceptions.
>>4344902Not even Mofurun?
>>4344990Only human Mofurun
>>4344962I suggest you watch Mahou Tsukai and familiarise yourself with the staff that we're seeing return for Mirai Days before saying things like that. Naitou-P wouldn't let Mirai and Riko get with random guys to begin with. But I think you're definitely not seeing the signs that are giving us all hope to begin with.
>>4344962>You're disregardingI'm not that's why I know Maho2 will likely be yuri.
>>4345082>>4345141>and choosing to only see what accommodates your own feelings on the matter
>>4345146See what exactly?
>>4344902Manga Haa-chan exists as precedent, unfortunately.
>>4344962It's a blatant passion project. There are obviously things the show may not be allowed to do, but if the producer doesn't want het and the writer doesn't write het, I doubt Toei would force either of them to slap it in. The "straightest" episode in Maho ended with two female side characters becoming inseperable for the rest of the season.
>>4341108Do you think the same about Rider making female Riders part of the main cast instead of movie fillers at best?
>>4341619They had one of the KingOhgers be NB (Rita). Also, Naki from 01 also had some confirmed gender bsAnd Gundam had WfM, which is still a big franchise even if not for kidsNever say neverNot to mention, Toei has been doing wild shit in their Rider spinoffs for adults. Like rape in the Faiz novel
>>4342215It’s concern troll numbers
>>4344962Kill yourself, concern troll doomerYou tried the same rethoric in LycoReco years ago. Didn’t work then, won’t work nowMiraiLiko won’t go her, no matter how much hetscum like you want it to happen
>>4345146That’s what you’re doung to push your hetshit agenda
>>4344902>>4344990>>4344996>>4345173The ironic thing is that at least in the anime, Mofurun was for some reason the het option of the hetfags, she was paired with 2 villains and even with (bee) Pirachu, maybe the bear in the movie had bases since they were both bears, but the other villain didn't make much sense (as is usual with hetfags)
>>4345193You also have to consider that Japanese children (in general) are more accustomed to things that would be too strong for Western barbarians, that includes gay things.
>>4345193Uni's gender situation isn't clear either.
>>4345217Is Sango a boy or a girl?
>>4345193Honestly, the Suite novel was pretty gay even if it wasn't quite 100% explicit and didn't commit to Hibiki/Kanade. And the Doki novel is honestly a swirling mass of chaos compared to other Precure media (though at least it doesn't have rape and again, no 100% explicit yuri, just ridiculously obvious implied homosexuality.) The Doki novel selling surprisingly well could be a sign of things to come, but it's likely enough that Toei gives zero care to what happens in the books themselves.
>>4345191Precure is for girls, Rider is for boys, Sentai is the middle ground for those who want heroes of both genders, so yes.
>>4345231Good question.
>>4345211Fuck, you're here too? I was hoping you were gone for good.
Everybody must've used their yuri allowance on Hirogaru Sky. Wonderful barely has any.
>>4345883Mayu is so much like a girl with a crush during Nyammy's introductory episodes
>>4345883It's not a particularly good season either and I don't mean the lack of fights, but basically every aspect, the only advantage it has over the other bad seasons, is that the Cure team is decent at best.
>>4345883The movie and episodes accompany the movie focus more on Satoru (and his pet plus his love life). I've seen several online articles try to make it a big deal that a girl and a boy become a couple in Precure.It completely overshadow the YukiMayu pair (and I'll be fair, it also overshadow Komugi as MC), which I am completely salty about and honestly I have to drag myself finish the show with how barebone the YukiMayu content is.I hope we get at least one more episode that focus solely on YukiMayu before the show end.Mirai Days promotions have been gayer than anything WPC put lately.
>>4346045> I've seen several online articles try to make it a big deal that a girl and a boy become a couple in Precure.It's funny how that couple sucks, they've been so inconsistent and contributed practically nothing, which only shows the conformism of Hetfags who always glorifies this shitty writing and pretends it's good, many other series are glorified just for that (even when in the end they are garbage at best)>his petRabbits in general are terrible pets and this one in particular has been one of the most pathetic attempts to justify a character and pretend that he is important, once again Pecorine is proving to be a superior character to these Cure men that people won't shut up about.>also overshadow Komugi as MCjust that? the het literally buries the supposed main plot that is supposed to be about animals and their relationship with animals, in the end those animals only exist so that Satoru has a justification to exist or fill 24 minutes of the episode.>>YukiMayuMy problem is that not even that couple has caught my attention, so I have nothing to really like about this series in particular, Niko has been the best character, maybe because she is the only one without any kind of het involved, not even indirectly.Unlike Yes, Hug or Hetcharge, I personally don't hate this season, it's just been another bad season with nothing real to write home about, like Party.
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Mayuki doujinhttps://exhentai.org/g/3174606/eaa3903185/
Remember when Wonderful was good?https://x.com/precure_marv/status/1875693698799075733
>>4355536Like first 19 episodes?
>>435557212-21.
Watching Futari Wa for the first time, is all the yuri due to my goggles (other than the senpai epsiodes), or are the writers actually aiming for yuri undertone?
>>4355740There probably wasn't an intent to make it yuri at the time it aired, but ever since then they've realised that fans see NagiHono as the main couple and face of the franchise, so promotional material treat them as a couple.
>>4355740Probably just goggles and not intended by the original staff at all, but either way it's good yuribait. If I had to guess when the staff started making intentional yuribait, it would either have to be maybe Karen/Milk in Yes 5 or Love/Setsuna in Fresh. If those two were also unintentional, HC definitely has some blatant yuribait with Itsuki/Tsubomi.
>>4355803>yuribaitDon't use words without knowing what they mean.
>>4355740You always have to consider that the shipptease can be completely intentional (in Pokemon since AG it is) Also consider that the yuri option works, while the supposed het options are a disaster at best.>>4355835You took away my words, so I'm going to get to something more concrete.>>4355803>Karen/MilkConsidering how het (and bad) that season was, it's impossible for the shiptease between them not to be intentional.>Love/SetsunaDaisuki literally hates Setsuna for taking Love away, Love only has eyes for Setsuna and it's hilarious how the fairy mainly considered the boy's confession stupid.>Itsuki/Tsubomi.There's no shipptease here, this is just straight up Tsubomi falling in love with Itsuki and never really backing down, she's supposed to be the soft and demure one, but being overbearing towards Itsuki (even confessing to Itsuki's mother that she loved her, though trying to deny it at the end) the flying scene between the two of them was stupidly romantic.
>>4355803Bait implies there was a conscious (and malicious) effort to bait yuri fans into getting invested in their relationship, even when the writer intends for them to end up with men, but yuri fans have never been the target audience of precure, so it can't possibly yuribait.
>>4357721>the writer intends for them to end up with menBait doesn't necessarily imply switch.>maliciousYou could say that, but only in the sense that the ones doing the baiting have no intention of ever delivering what the baited audience really wants, which could be seen as malicious.But if you enjoy the bones that are thrown at you and there is no switching to het, yuri bait can be beneficial to baiter and baited alike, since actual yuri was never a realistic possibility anyway.>it can't possibly yuribaitIt's really just a matter of semantics.
>>4357983>Bait doesn't necessarily imply switch.It does. Bait is short for bait-and-switch. There is no bait without switch.>the ones doing the baiting have no intention of ever delivering what the baited audience really wantsThis is all based on wrong assumptions of what the audience wants, as well as lumping all forms of ship-teasing into the "bait" label.All in all, you're pretty retarded and don't understand how subtext and ship-teasing works, or what bait even means.
>>4357983Baiting is luring with the prospect of something that is not what it looks like.If you take the yuri bait and expect what it looks like, i.e. a blossoming lesbian relationship, you'll be disappointed, because it won't go there.But we are so used to being baited by now that we've learnt to content ourselves with it.
>>4357990>Bait is short for bait-and-switchBait can be used as a verb on its own, anon.
uhm, you guys are aware that arguing semantics doesn't actually say anything about the nature of the "yuri" in precure, right?you're just calling the same thing a different name
>>4357983Are you chat gpt itself?
>>4357991>But we are so used to being baited by now that we've learnt to content ourselves with it.More like beggars can't be choosers.
>>4357993But not in this context. Bait and bait-and-switch are very different terms, and it makes no fucking sense to call something in a story plain bait. By that logic, anything that is meant to appeal to someone can be called bait. Are the frilly dresses bait? Or the mascot characters? Of fucking course not, they are things that appeal to the target audience, just like yuri teasing.
>>4358024>teasingThat's the key word.You don't have frilly dresses teasing, or mascot character teasing, you have actual frills and mascots, so of course they're not bait, they're the actual thing.But as far as the yuri goes, despite all the teasing you never get actual explicit yuri relationships, the characters are just made to act as if they were headed there to bait that niche in the audience.Or at least that's the sentiment here, though I personally think a lot of this so called baiting isn't intentional, but just writers genuinely portraying close friendships, which have nothing to do with romance, and that's why when they do get to the romance it's always het.
>>4358069Yuri doesn't have to be explicit, teasing and subtext are also yuri.
>>4358072I agree, "yuri" is a label used very loosely, so technically you could say that they are delivering actual yuri, so it's not yuri bait.But that just means we'd need a different term to refer to the teasing of lesbian relationships that goes nowhere.As I said before, it's really just a matter of semantics, >>4357995 got it right.
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>>4358822Still undecided if I should bother watching it, this anime season is pretty dry as usual but on the other hand I'll probably get burnt if I do, the wise choice would be to wait things out.
>>4358919>the wise choicemy wisdom is telling me that it's best if i get burnt, so i can finally give up on this cursed franchise
>>4358919>>4358929Why so negative. Precure is already gayer than Nanoha, Symphogear, Madoka etc and Maho2 might go further.
>>4358936>Why so negativeexperience
>>4358941Elaborate.
>>4358936>>4358945They're just concern-trolling.
>>4358929the bad seasons (Het) are less than the good ones (yuri) it is the hetfags who pretend the opposite.
How was Mahou2?
>>4359079We are so back
>>4359079So fucking gay.
>>4359079No explicit yuri, but there's this scene in the transformation scene.
>>4359096So close...
>>4359096Come on, it's impossible for their lips not to meet there.
>>4359110It's rather clear that few frames were cut out.
On one hand, the "tears of love" line in the OP doesn't seem to be about Mirai and Liko. I'd hoped the OP would answer some questions about the show's yuri level.On the other hand, Mirai isn't fully satisfied after ep49' reunion. She and Liko are still separated albeit for different reasons. After reading interviews it might become the core of the main conflict. What the show's message will be? Move on and go separate ways? Just marry already? Status quo? Only one of them is acceptable.
>>4359122It will be status quo where both accept not being around each other really doesn't make them worse friends than they already are.Honestly people expecting this to go full yuri are something else.
>>4359124>It will be status quoOr not.
>>4359125They had a chance to make OP line about 'tears of love' being about Mirai and Liko not being around each other and it's not about them so that's your answer.
>>4359127Source?
>>4359127That's not an answer, just your wishful thinking.
Subs?
>>4359133Out nowhttps://nyaa.si/view/1920459
Just finished watching the episode, and I have to be honest, this isn't looking good at all.First the new guy appears and lingers right after the leads in the OP, with a glowing red heart on top of him to boot, and right before the famous "tears of love" line.Then the episode clearly hinted that he is nicer than he looks with how he treated the sad-looking dog, and he's obviously pulling a Homura with repeating events he's already been through while leading on the precures.And lastly, he singled out Mirai out of the two, making it apparent something happened between them specifically; also, he looks like he's college aged too, how convenient.Mind you, he could still have some tragic love story of his own that Mirai and the cures just happened to be involved with in the past or something, but the red flags are all there, so I'm preemptively dropping this, I couldn't bear to see even hints of Mirai being into some dude, it's just wrong.
>>4359096From the particles and point of origin you can tell they touched.
>>4359217i'm surprised you are surprised
>>4359217They wouldn't tease with kissing frames if they were going to marry off Mirai to some new boy (I hope).I mean come on, they did it for Both the transformation and the final attack scenes, they can't be that sadistic.
That's probably the gayest transformation scene I've seen in decades for Magical Girl, let alone Precure.
>>4359223If I have a nickle everytime a lead Cure reach adulthood and doing her dream job, while secretly hide her resentment that her loved one is in a far away place, I would have two nickles.Now let's see whether I'll get two nickles too for the lead cure finally marries her loved one.
>>4359224To be honest, I've been noticing the similarities between NozoCoco and MiraLiko ever since they reveal that Mirai is a (college) student, while Liko is a teacher. But the first episode really hit home with the Otona similarities (Mirai/Nozomi achieved their dream but sad that Liko/Coco isn't there for them. Liko/Coco hesistant to be with Mirai/Liko because their obligation in their world), so it kinda obvious that MiraLiko will have similar development.Though fortunately Liko visit Mirai in episode 1, instead of ghosting her for multiple episodes like what Coco did to Nozomi.Again, finger cross for MiraLiko to reach NozoCoco's endgame (marriage).
>>4359217Maybe the guy was into Mirai in the past, but she ended up choosing Liko over him, and that's why he looks resigned.He could actually serve as a trigger for them.
>>4359229If he's repeating past events, it means he's done the same stuff in the past, but wants a different outcome this time.But I don't think he's trying to sway Mirai, given that he's essentially told her to behave the same way she did before, so he might be trying to atone for something he'd done out of jealousy.
>>4359232So wtf is the dog, what's left of past Mirai?
You shouldn't reply to what's very obviously a majimaschizo subtly trolling.
>>4359241Being a bit generous calling it subtle
The Lipstick at ED is now on sale.https://mantan-web.jp/article/20250111dog00m200017000c.html>After applying Cure Miracle Lipstick, applies Cure Magical Lipstick on top of itHah, Gay.And also, Liko Top?
>>4359124I don't think it'll go full yuri, but I don't think it'll be status quo either. I personally think the two worlds will end up connected and that will be enough of an excuse for the whole family to live with each other openly.
>>4359217If you word it like that then it seems bad for /u/s, maybe truly they decided to pander to otome crowd with this.
>>4359335They could just be doing omni-pandering, and neither option will be confirmed in the end.
>>4359311Wait, it's true. This is some advanced level yuri merch.
>>4359367>>4359311>>4359222Makes sense now.It's a grate gift for a lesbian couple.
Is it the first kiss in PreCure (other than the one in the manga)?
>>4359369The het one was in Gogo.The twins teased kisses between Akari and Yukari a couple of times:https://x.com/kamikitafutago/status/999064028075868160https://x.com/kamikitafutago/status/866907681302355968
Looks like it's time for a new thread. Who wants to do the honors?
>>4360568You are late.>>4359336
