Remake started airing today.Previous thread: >>4241344
>>4305048>genderbend shitEw
>>4305087whats wrong with gender-bent? There is one episode/chapter where Ranma totally behaves like a girl
>>4305202he's a man
>>4305202If you mean the one where Ranma gets hit on the head and starts insisting she's a girl, that's an anime original, as is the scene where she eats parfait in girl mode.I wonder how they'll adapt Ranma. A full adaptation is obviously unworkable, but even doing some kind of a greatest hits thing would probably feel rushed at ~48 episodes, since there's quite a few more serious, plot-relevant arcs later on. Plus it looks like the first cour won't make it past Shampoo's first appearance, which is just four volumes out of 38. Of course you need to introduce the core cast properly, but that's still a quarter of the running time, assuming they follow Urusei Yatsura's model. Also, I hope the subs decide to call her Shan Pu instead of Shampoo. Surely the joke is that the Amazons have Chinese names that sound like hygiene products instead of just having the names of hygiene products?Anyway, someone asked for fanfic recs in the previous thread and I liked this Ukyo/Shampoo (alas) fic: https://archiveofourown.org/works/11549865 . It's just a little over 1k words, but I really like the idea.
>>4305309>I wonder how they'll adapt Ranma. A full adaptation is obviously unworkable...you relize they DID adapt it before, right?
>>4305386The first anime adapted little over half the manga, and was also mostly filler and original content.The manga is 400 chapters long, which would require around 80-100 episodes to fully adapt. That demands a long-term commitment that is rarely seen nowadays, hence the question of whether the adaptation will be faithful or more compressed.
>>4305386Most of them are literally just fillers
>every weekMuch better
>>4305652>>4305666hi there, newfag
>>4305726>>4305734Please be mad more
Cute>>4305747>>4305748You're still here?
>>4305762>>4305758Weird replies.
>>4305758Damn, we're dealing with a badass here.
cuties
Ranma's behavior this episode is pretty interesting. She's In no rush to turn into a boy, really happy about being potential girl besties with Akane and then finally resigned about having to reveal her boy form.
>>4305918It contains zero yuri. Anyone who disagrees is a hetshitter troll or a delusional idiot.
Somedays I wish IP counter could be back, then we would see literally one anon posting in this thread. One way to fuck up a very slow board like /u/ with non-yuri GB shit.
>>4305202>whats wrong with gender-bent?Nothing, it's just not yuri.
>>4305825I really like this artist.
>>4306389>>4306389When Ranma is in the female form its yuri
>>4306783You're talking with the underage, let them mad.
>>4306783its a man in a woman costume, so its not yuri
>>4306883>its a man in a woman costumeThat's not how the cursed springs works
>>4307084That's literally how it works though. Some springs (like the Spring of Drowned Pious Man) changes the personality of the person as well, but most don't. Ryoga doesn't became a piglet that wants to roll around in mud, he is a man stuck in an animal body.
>>4307089Girl Ranma acts pretty different from boy Ranma, though. She likes wearing fancy clothes, flirting and coming up with schemes, while boy Ranma wears old clothes they picked up in China, is kind of prudish and mostly solves things by fighting.
>>4307103That's like 90% anime invention. In the manga Ranma rarely pretends he is a girl, and when he does he despises every second of it. And he wears boys clothes regardless of whether the curse is active or not.
>>4307117And in Ranma's form it's is still a girl.
>>4307117>In the manga Ranma rarely pretends he is a girl, and when he does he despises every second of it.That just isn't true. Going into girl mode is Ranma's solution to pretty much every situation and she doesn't show any discomfort doing it after the early volumes. For instance, there's a late chapter where Ukyo is sick and is about to close her restaurant for a few days, but Ranma offers to help run it instead. Almost the first thing she does is put on a miniskirt and start flashing her legs to attract customers. She gets so into it Akane starts using slurs.That's one of the clearest examples of Ranma liking being in the girl form because there's no real reason to use it, but she does that kind of stuff all the time. She pretends to be Ryoga's girlfriend or sister on multiple occasions and goes on dates with lots of different guys, only showing disgust when they get handsy. The most charming example is her always getting a new, usually very cute swimsuit whenever they go to the beach.
>>4307134You are massively misrepresenting what the manga is like. Those moments are always played for laughs or fanservice, it's a comedy after all, in no way should you take them seriously. The manga has serious moments, but those are not it.And regardless, Ranma still uses his curse only if it gets him something (or if it's a situation where he would be too embarrassed to be seen as a guy). He is a sneaky trickster regardless of whether the curse is active or not.
>>4307144>Those moments are always played for laughs or fanservice, it's a comedy after all, in no way should you take them seriouslySure, the stuff that happens in the manga is generally meant to be funny, and "Ranma sure takes a lot of opportunities to be a cute girl" is a joke, but it's also consistent characterization. This is notable, because Herb, the other character with the same curse, actually does hate his girl.>Ranma still uses his curse only if it gets him somethingRight, but boy Ranma is similarly good-looking, and there must be straight female food vendors in Nerima too. Why doesn't he use that form to scam food? Is it embarrassing to do as a man? Most men would find becoming a girl and flirting with guys for food much more embarrassing.The people in Ranma's life have made it pretty clear that her openly enjoying girlhood would not be received well, and the there's internalized attitudes. Out of universe, making Ranma canonically some flavor of queer would have taken the story in a wild direction for a massively popular shounen manga.Still, Takahashi clearly didn't see the girl form as just a burden or a gimmick. There's that interview where she says she'd have been sad if girl Ranma disappeared and wanted to imagine Akane and both Ranmas continuing their lives together.
I love how there's literally some physical contact with eachother.
>>4307134So when he is in girl mode he flirts with men, wow what a great yuri manga
>>4307577She just likes the affirmation. The only person Ranma actually likes is Akane, which doesn't change in girl form.
>>4307585How much of the big important romance scenes happen when he’s in girl form. You’re going to bat for a manga centered around the Naruto sexy ninjutsu as its only gimmick , but I guess you can relate to the mc
>>4307156You are putting way too much emphasis on what is the main gag element of the series. The manga does have serious moments (in terms of romance as well as martial arts) but Ranma's curse has only ever been material for comedy. It's not a serious exploration of the subject by any means.Ranma is not queer, even in the very last chapter he is eager to cure himself and become a full man. The author might say what she will say but in the story there is absolutely zero indication Ranma would miss being cursed in any way.
>>4307577Not really, female form does more with the girls while the guys she's with just for laughs and she literally vomit.
>>4307614Didn't know rescuing Akane just for comedy, don't think you even watch the show much.
>>4307617Well I’m sure you’ll have no trouble showing us screenshots of all the great Yuri moments
>>4307619Some were posted in the last thread. You can also just watch the show, there's going to be a couple soon.
>>4307619Or you can just tell us that you really didn't watch the show.
>>4307614>The author might say what she will sayHe is also misrepresenting what was said. It was a comment about the series ending by continuing the GAG, to which she responded that gags were great, and that him being permanently cured would have probably been a good ending for the series but that she couldn't help but want it to go on forever.It was an interview answer confirming it was just a gimmick, in response to question about it being a gimmick.
>>4307618We already know Ranma is willing to use his curse when it is convenient to do so. That changes nothing though, he considers himself a man as do the people around him, therefore it is not yuri.
>>4307628Of course I didnt watch the show, I’m not a hetshitter like you
>>4307859No wonder you don't make sense, get out of here. tourist.
>>4307628>>4307862You're the one who makes no sense. You were asked to post the "yuri" from this het show, which is an impossible task because there isn't any.You are the tourist. An /a/ tourist to be exact.
>>4307620There wasn't a single one. What kind of cope is this?
>>4307862>watches het show>doesn’t want to be acknowledged as a hetshitterYou’re the one making little sense
>>4307867Jesus Christ, you're so stupid.
>>4307877
>>4307879So what part of that is yuri?Is Akane suddenly thinking that "god, I really want to marry Ranma's female form specifically."I don't think so.
>>4307898why are you so insecure?
>>4307898Sure, why not? she's blushing anyway even in girl form
>>4307920Because it is fucking Ranma, the DUDE she has a crush on. This is the same nonsense as last thread. You intentionally twist the point of the interaction to pretend there is something gay about it when it's not. Even if Ranma is in girl form Akane knows he is a guy and only has any attraction to him as a guy. Because the female form is NOT a different person, what Ranma says while transformed is still relevant to Akane's crush on the male form.I can't believe you would pretend to be this stupid just to lie about the show having any yuri.
>>4307876And you are pathetic and a liar. What a surprise.
>>4307920What blush?
>>4307946>>4307945>he doesn't knowWow, you're just wasting your breathe for nothing
>>4307633That's not at all what they say. The gag is Happosai drinking the water, not Ranma having a curse. Takahashi then switches topics to talk in more emotional terms about how she'd have found it sad if female Ranma disappeared, nothing about continuing a gag. Her comment about wanting Akane to be friendly with both sides of Ranma further reinforces that.
>>4307944Why do you ask for romantic scenes between girl Ranma and Akane if you don't think they prove anything?
>>4307992because it doesn't prove anything, there is only one Ranma and he is a boy, who can transform into a girl, but that's all, the romance is still het and as the other anon said, the female form is nothing more than a gag.
>>4308003Your head is a gag and nothing more.
>>4307991She’d be sad because it’s the only interesting thing about her male main character, take away his sex change gimmick and he’s boring as fuck
>>4307614>Ranma's curse has only ever been material for comedyThe stuff about Ranma's mom is related to the curse and pretty dramatic (she intends to force Ranma to commit seppuku if she judges her insufficiently manly). But the fact that Ranma's curse ends up being so undramatic is kind of the point; Ranma takes to girlhood really well and doesn't suffer from the curse, in marked contrast to how agonizing Ryoga, Mousse and Herb find theirs. Even the Nodoka stuff is about how others will react to Ranma than internal turmoil.>It's not a serious exploration of the subject by any meansThis is true, Ranma is no Hourou Musuko, or even Kashimashi. The queer stuff is mostly subtext, jokes or something vigorously denied. But works like that are interesting to think about.>in the story there is absolutely zero indication Ranma would miss being cursed in any way.What would count? Ranma can't ever refuse a chance to fix the curse when offered, or she'd be admitting she enjoys being a girl and the subtext would become text.Aside from all the previous stuff about Ranma sure acting like she does enjoy being a girl, it's pretty notable that Ranma never tries to fix the curse on her own. All she needs to do is travel to China and take a dip in a spring. Going to China is never a problem to any of the characters when they really want to. Why doesn't Ranma ever go, despite claiming she intends to the first night at the Tendos'?
>>4308095>Ranma takes to girlhood really wellWhat does that even mean? He doesn't dress differently, doesn't act differently, doesn't do his hair or make-up or shit like that. Usually he seeks the earliest opportunity to get some hot water and turn back.Comparing him to others is disingenous, Mousse and Ryoga became weak and defenseless in their cursed forms, Ranma loses a bit of reach and strength but can otherwise still kick ass and communicate.>All he needs to do is travel to ChinaWell that goes for all of them. And the real answer is that it would break the story. It's the same thing as that meme with eagles from Lord of the Rings. So in summary, Ranma doesn't swim to China because it would end the story.
>>4308095>Ranma takes to girlhood really well Not as good as you sister
>>4308095>The queer stuff is mostly subtext, jokes or something vigorously denied.So you’ve basically admitted it isn’t Yuri or particularly gay and this whole thread is off-topic
>>4307992The entire point is to prove there are none. I asked for yuri scenes, not for scenes where Akane is crushing on a boy.
>>4308095Ranma doesnt "take to girlhood" at all, he considers himself a man at all times and he constantly complains about being weaker in female form and WANTS to be CURED. How do you lie so badly about the most basic facts of the het trash garbage show you love?There is no "queer" stuff in Ranma. Not even subtext. And there is no "she". And there is no "admitting" to liking being a girl when he explicitely does not. Adapting to the curse and liking it are not even remotely close.>Ranma can just got ot China and dipAre you retarded? The entire point is that there is no way to break the curse, they can only replace it with another curse. Why would he exchange an at least human form with some random shit? There are several dozen times a potential cure comes up as a plot point and Ranma always tries to go for it.The onsen that can actually break the curse only comes up in the final arc as a plot point and Ranma did not know about it before.
>>4308124>He doesn't dress differently...You're right, Ranma isn't interested in ordinary girlhood. She always goes for the hyper-feminine stuff like bunny girls, cheerleaders, waitresses and nice swimsuits.>Comparing him to others is disingenousGranted, but there's still Herb, who falls in the same spring as Ranma. He gets mode-locked, which explains some of his distress, but his reaction is very different from Ranma's. He starts wearing heavy form-hiding clothes, refuses to admit what happened to him and makes a mortal enemy out of Ranma, almost fucking up his plan, just because Ranma accidentally causes him to have a wardrobe malfunction.>Well that goes for all of themThe others have pretty good reasons. Ryoga would never find home again, Mousse is busy making sure Shampoo doesn't get with Ranma, Shampoo's curse may be a punishment and it's good for bullying Ranma and Genma seems to like being a panda just fine. It's not like Takahashi couldn't have come up with some excuse about angry border guards or something.>>4308187>The entire point is that there is no way to break the curseI suspected it, but thank you for confirming you haven't read the manga. The drowned man spring is right there in Jusenkyo. Everyone knows about it at least as early as volume 8, when Shampoo offers Ranma an instant version of it sold by Jusenkyo.
>>4308187>they can only replace it with another curseActually, they stack don't they? Hence Pantyhose Taro being such a freak.
>>4308234No, he was just washed in the Spring of Drowned Yeti-riding-Bull-carrying-Crane-and-Eel. He does upgrade it with tentacles later, but he presumably didn't immerse himself fully. This functionality is shown in a chapter where a drop of the drowned twins' spring water hits a bump on Happosai's head, resulting in two bumps rather than two Happosais. Everyone always operates under the assumption that a dip in the drowned man spring would cure the guys and Ranma of their curses.
>>4308228The key difference between Ranma and Herb is that the people around Ranma don't treat him any differently because of his curse. Everybody around him accepts that he is a man beneath the apperance, so he has no need to assert his masculinity all the time (though he does it frequently anyway). The skimpy outfits are however pure fanservice, in the absence of Shampoo and Kodachi it falls to Ranma to be the fanservice character.Whereas Herb has to contend with idiots like Lime and Mint on a daily basis and being the head of a dynasty, so obviously he has more need to hide the fact he's cursed.
>>4308246>Everybody around him accepts that he is a man beneath the apperanceNot exactly. Ranma's widely known as a cross-dresser and it's not rare for the cast, including Akane, to call him an okama, or fag (the Viz translation tones this down). And yet she keeps wearing sexy clothes in public with no shame and frequently no clear benefit.>The skimpy outfits are however pure fanservice, in the absence of Shampoo and Kodachi it falls to Ranma to be the fanservice character.How do you determine what's pure fan service and what's characterization? As you suggest, most of the female characters don't get used in fanservice scenes, as it wouldn't suit their personalities.I'm not saying it's necessarily relevant here, but it's a wild move to make the male hero of your martial arts shounen manga also responsible for like 90% of your fan service.>so obviously he has more need to hide the fact he's cursedMaybe so, but his behavior explicitly isn't motivated by rational considerations. He keeps thinking about the shame he feels for having his breasts exposed and can then be driven into a rage by reminding him of how he gained his curse. Being in a woman's body is distressing to him in a way it isn't to Ranma.
>>4308390Anon, at this point I have to say your brain has been completely rotted by fanfics and fanon.Like, Akane calling Ranma a crossdresser is the same as Ranma calling Akane "uncute". Do you seriously believe either of them mean it?And there's like a handful of times in the manga he wears sexy or revealing clothes, almost never out of his own free will I might add. It's usually to help or trick somebody.Beachwear is kind of a necessity since he will transform anyway the moment he goes into the water, and you can't exactly run around at a beach with bare boobs.
>>4308392I read the entire manga a couple of months ago. I remember it perfectly well.>Akane calling Ranma a crossdresserBeing called okama is much nastier than that. Viz just toned it down so Akane wouldn't come across as a raging homophobe. It's the same word Pantyhose Taro calls Ranma, which she hates. And it's not just Akane, Ranma's widely known as some kind of a fag.>almost never out of his own free will I might add. It's usually to help or trick somebodyThat is in fact Ranma doing it out of her own free will. She's almost never in a situation where being a woman is the only viable solution. It's just the one she keeps going with.>Beachwear is kind of a necessitySure, but why does she have so many swimsuits we never see her wearing the same one twice?Imagine you have a buddy who has somehow come into possession of one of Philadelphia Flyers' full-sized Gritty costumes. Storing it takes up space and cleaning it is annoying, and everyone keeps calling him that fag who dresses up as Gritty. Thus he sometimes talks about how much he hates having that costume and plans to get rid of it, but never quite succeeds. Then, whenever a problem arises, he drives home, puts on the Gritty suit and tries to solve the problem with the powers of an NHL mascot. How many times would that need to happen until you concluded your buddy doesn't actually hate dressing up as Gritty?
>>4308600>It's just the one she keeps going withthat's because it's literally the main premise of the manga, of course the author is going to use it as much as possible, especially because Ranma's cursed form is considered super hot>Ranma's widely known as some kind of a fagErr, no? Only the Tendo household, the Amazons and a few of his friends know he is cursed, and none of them think he is anything but a straight male when it comes down to it. Oh, I guess his classmates know it as well, but they also treat him normally.All the shit about calling him things stems from the fact he is a water magnet and tends to get splashed at the most inopportune moments, such as while sneaking into the girls locker room as a girl.>but why does she have so many swimsuits we never see her wearing the same one twicefanservice, that's just a part of how the manga/anime business workstrying to equate it somehow to ranma enjoying dressing up is just dumb.if you want an in-story explanation, probably Nabiki forces him to wear different sets so she can take photos and sell them
https://x.com/twincre/status/1844591802705383559Official art for the pouch and pin
This scene is almost yuri if it's not stupid to interrupt
>>4308608Sorry, Anon, I was typing up a response but got the distinct sense I was repeating myself in a boring way. I'll just say that Nabiki forcing Ranma into swimsuits is not viable, because the pictures she sells are always presented as creepshots rather than something she modeled for.
>>4305048Old one better and less homo
WILL THEY take SuleMio route?
>>4312088It looks like they're playing things pretty safe, just like the Urusei Yatsura adaptation, though this one's at least a bit more visually inventive. They'll probably take out stuff like Akane calling Ranma a faggot and I'd be surprised if Tsubasa makes an appearance, but I doubt they'll make it more gay.I just hope they'll adapt the cheerleading arc, in which we find out Akane likes Ranma being ultra girly and flirty as long as she's the target.
>>4312088You mean married? They almost did
>>4313688
>>4312121There's already been a scene where they remove homophobic attitudes. At the end of the second episode when Ranma's about to thank Akane, she's talking to Nabiki in her room. In the anime Akane's calling Ranma a pervert for walking in on her in the bath and thinks she'll be considered the same kind of pervert. This is obviously nonsensical. In the manga, she thinks Ranma turning into a girl is perverted and worries about people calling her a pervert too (implicitly, lesbian) for being her fiancée.Anyway, Akane carrying girl Ranma on her back was cute, and the first romantic moment between them. There'll be another one with girl Ranma next episode when Ryoga shows up.
>>4313724Actually, it'll probably be a two-parter, so the scene should be in episode 5.
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>>4315889>Isn't it amazing that when splashed with water, she turns into such a cute girl? When she turns into a little girl, she looks like little Ran-chan, it brings back memories.>Ahh, I want to take her home with me... Let's wash each other in the bath when we get home
>>4313724Oh, thanks for explaining that. I've read the manga but don't remember every detail. I was confused by that line too, especially since they kept Nabiki's original comment (glass half full I guess) about not minding the genderbending, so it sounded like they were equating genderbenders to perverts, which is ironically the kind of old-fashioned attitude they were trying to censor.It's hard to express but it's angrymaking at a deep level to hear that the "censoring the existence of homophobia is totally anti-homophobia and not the oldest homophobic move in the book" sentiment has spread to japan. I got into yuri partly because it didn't pussyfoot with calling out homophobia the way american media did.That said I never saw any yuri potential in this particular manga, which felt like a missed opportunity given the premise.
>>4307614Right, because there is no characterization in comedy and no fictional character has ever been in denial about their gender/sexuality.>>4307991>Her comment about wanting Akane to be friendly with both sides of RanmaCute! Thanks for cheering me up a bit after see previous post.
>>4312121>They'll probably take out stuff like Akane calling Ranma a faggot and I'd be surprised if Tsubasa makes an appearanceWhich will just reinforce Ranma's "manliness", eeuugh. (Tsubasa arc was a big step into shameless girliness. Akane calling Ranma okama which I think is somewhere between faggot and tranny is emphasizing it. Plus the futility of Ranma's attempts to "straighten out" Tsubasa might be the most overtly poking fun at homophobia subtext in the manga, even if the ending reveal means it's still subtext.)
>>4315944I do understand why they're doing that. A modern adaptation can't just leave the characters acting homophobic like they do in the original manga, particularly in the earlier volumes. The more interesting decision would have been to really confront it and emphasize the LGBT themes and subtext. They could have for instance had Akane imply there's already rumors about her.But that's not really what Mappa are doing. They're making a smooth and nostalgic version of the story, which is fair enough. It's been very enjoyable so far.
>>4316080>A modern adaptation can't just leave the characters acting homophobic like they do in the original manga, particularly in the earlier volumes.It's not timeshifted, first ep is explicitly set in the 80s. Half the story just wouldn't make sense with characters living in 2024.
>>4316080Hit reply too early.>The more interesting decision would have been to really confront it and emphasize the LGBT themes and subtext. They could have for instance had Akane imply there's already rumors about her.That's basically the original, minus the "already", but yeah I would have liked it if Rumiko had done more with it. >They're making a smooth and nostalgic version of the story, which is fair enough. It's been very enjoyable so far.It really has been, which is why I was so upset about that one change and find it worrying. It's minor by itself since that plot point doesn't go anywhere in the original manga, but they're going to have to cut out huge chunks of the story and rewrite Ranma's characterization if they're going to pretend homophobia and transphobia didn't exist in the '87 setting. Like the upcoming ice arc where the first half is about Ranma being upset because a guy kissed her. Most of Ranma's actions with her female side don't make sense without him considering himself a manly man with deeply ingrained sexist and heterosexist mindset.
>>4316101I was thinking about the audience being modern and more sensitive to homophobia. People aren't going to root for Akane if she's casually calling Ranma a perverted fag.But yeah, it's unfortunate if that element is fully taken out. Akane has a good arc where she starts out casually homophobic and worried about being seen as a lesbian. When she meets Tsubasa and thinks she's a lesbian, she's friendly but thinks girls liking girls is something you should outgrow. A hundred chapters later she doesn't care at all about being perceived as a couple with girl Ranma in the cheerleading fight. Finally, when she meets Konatsu, she finds her odd and doesn't really get her deal, but wants to be her friend.>upcoming ice arcThe gender element there is interesting. Girl Ranma reacts to being sexually assaulted by crying, while boy Ranma responds with murderous rage.
>>4307144>if it's played for fanservice you shouldn't take it seriouslyIt's not fanservice in a pure vacuum, though. They're still traits girl Ranma displays as characterization and personality. Roshi being a horny bastard is played for laughs, but it's also a legitimate part of his character.Panty fucking loads of dudes and stocking eating sweets like a monster are both played for comedic buts, but they are also very real traits possessed by the characters. If two girls kissed in an anime in a blatant form of fanservice, would you still be arguing that it doesn't count? Come on, anon.
>>4307577>Popular, desirable girl plays the flirty sex object with men but is secretly a pure devoted love slave for another, dorkier girl Yes, that is a great yuri trope if you have decent taste.
>>4316153>If two girls kissed in an anime in a blatant form of fanservice, would you still be arguing that it doesn't count?Wouldn't be surprised, no-homo (no-tranno?) fags really do argue that every time, even if it's not actually fanservice.
I guess the clearest argument for girl Ranma being more than a nuisance or an occasionally useful disguise is Ranma clearly identifying with her. Even in the early chapters, Ranma's clearly happy about her being hot and is later outright ecstatic when she finds out her breasts are still growing. When someone insults her looks, Ranma gets upset, like with Tsubasa or the mirror clone.Sure, Ranma is proud, but you aren't proud of things that you hate or feel indifferent about. Ryoga's a proud martial artist too, but he's not going to care if someone calls P-chan ugly.
>>4316431Ranma is just insanely competitive, one only needs to imply that he is not the best at something or that he can't do something, he will go to the ends of the Earth to prove them wrong.I can't believe how desperate some of you here are to find something that could be translated as yuri-adjacent in a dumb hetshit gag manga. It's not the 90s anymore, granny, there is a shit ton of explicit, implicit and any other kind of yuri, everywhere.
>>4316441>It's not the 90s anymore, granny, there is a shit ton of explicit, implicit and any other kind of yuri, everywhere.Zoomer anon... explicit yuri existed way before the 90s...>I can't believe how desperate some of you here are to find something that could be translated as yuri-adjacent in a dumb hetshit gag manga.You're sounding like the "reeeeee fujos get out of straight shounen and go read BL" newfags.>dumbExcuse you>Ranma is just insanely competitive, one only needs to imply that he is not the best at something or that he can't do something, he will go to the ends of the Earth to prove them wrong.This is actually true and I actually agree that Ranma is predominantly malebrained, but arguing there isn't anything female about femRanma busting her bust to outgirl all the other girls including her fiancee is like arguing that there is nothing sluttish about the pure girls in instant loss memes.
>>4316441>he will go to the ends of the Earth to prove them wrong.This isn't actually true. For instance, Ranma has shit grades and does absolutely nothing to improve them, regardless of what others say. I don't remember the competitiveness really kicking in unless it's about martial arts or either form's attractiveness. Well, she wants to be a better chef than Akane, but that's again girly-coded.>It's not the 90s anymore, granny, there is a shit ton of explicit, implicit and any other kind of yuri, everywhere.I don't really care about that. Ranma's a nostalgic work to boomers like me, so it's fun to think about from different perspectives. Sometimes possibly accidental subtext is more interesting than full-on maintext yuri.
>>4316555>femRanmafrankly you have (and everyone has) to stop pretending that the female version of Ranma is a completely different being (like in To love-ru) it's exactly the same person, the main couple is het, there's no science behind it.>>You're sounding like the "reeeeee fujos get out of straight shounen and go read BL" newfags.The difference is that fujos are not trying to gender the characters, here on the other hand denying GB is not yuri is the only way they can make it "yuri">>4316565>Sometimes possibly accidental subtext is more interesting than full-on maintext yuri.You can like what you want under your own circumstances, but there's no need to pretend that this series is something it's not. If the discussion was "I like the couple" instead of "this is yuri because I said so" there wouldn't be (as many) complaints about the thread (although it would still exist).
>>4316637>frankly you have (and everyone has) to stop pretending that the female version of Ranma is a completely different being>there's no need to pretend that this series is [yuri]There's no need to argue with strawmen either
>>4316637>it's exactly the same personSame consciousness, but their behavior is different, even including involuntary responses like in the skating arc >>4316135. Takahashi herself also sees them as different >>4307991.Also, "Ranma's a perfectly normal guy who dislikes being a girl and only uses the girl form as a disguise for for fully rational reasons" is such a boring reading. Even if it didn't require you to write off lots of the manga as fanservice that doesn't count like the Anon above did, I'd oppose it just for that.
>>4307617>and she literally vomit.Refresh my memory?
>>4316441>rapidly losing ground as it becomes apparent anon has deliberately entered a thread full of things he doesn't like and now he's mad and doesn't understand how this could have happenedJust...leave the thread, man. No rules have been broken here. It's not your particular taste, fine, that's understandable, you don't like it, so why are you here?I don't care for strap-ons, but it'd be silly for me to enter the thread and just start making a nuisance of myself. This has gone past the initial genuine discussion and into "I just don't like it, and I'm going to make that everybody's problem"
>>4316783Unfortunately for you I feel personally insulted whenever I see hetshit in /u/ so I'm not going to stop anytime soon.
>>4316785>unfortunately for youNot my home board, I just come here to post comms once every few months. You're not gonna have much of an effect on me.But beyond that.../u/ is so slow there's not really much you're gonna manage, anon. This thread will likely be up over 200 days from now. Oldest on the board at the moment is, what, the armpit thread at 3 years? You're gonna save yourself a lot of wasted time and effort if you just hide the thread.
>>4316768she almost vomit, and also hates to kiss a guy. I can't believe you think that Ranma would enjoy being with the guys, are you stupid?
>>4316859>she almost vomitWhen?
>>4316785You post exactly like a no-homo hetfag.
Nice>>4316871? so what will you do if I show it to you?
>>4316879Also, nice ignoring my post about Ranma hates kissing guys, weirdo >>4316871
>>4316879Be reassured that you are talking about a real event and not just shitposting
>>4316872He probably is, his posts reek of fake concern.
>>4316787>Not my home boardVery obviously.
>>4316928You know, your logic don't makes sense and your question is just retarded.
>>4316787>Not my home boardFigures, a fucking tourist from /tttt/ coming to teach us how trannies are also yuri, lmao I can't, this is just too good
>>4317002So just shitposting, then.>>4317066>calls her tourist>lmao I can'tyou would know
>>4317066>tranniesYou have an obsession or some kind of fucking neural parasite, anon. I come here to post girls groping and kissing eachother, sometimes my commissions if they've never been posted anywhere else. And you can check yourself. Reverse image search the attached image. You won't find a thing.I've got more in the kissing thread. Go ahead and try for a source for either of those. You won't find one. I am the source, because I use /u/ for posting yuri and not for screaming about trannies.This isn't my home board because /jp/ makes for better and quicker conversation. /u/ just isn't typically active enough. Scream "No TRUE Yuri enjoyer!" all you want, piss and shit yourself because I disagreed with you, I don't care. I'll pop in, drop off more yuri, grab some pics I haven't seen myself, comment in a thread as I please, and leave.
>>4317101You didn't watch the show so why would I bother to post it? weirdo
>>4316135>I was thinking about the audience being modern and more sensitive to homophobia. People aren't going to root for Akane if she's casually calling Ranma a perverted fag.Oh, I see. Yes, I remember feeling (as a Ranma/Akane shipper) sad for Ranma in the watermelon contest scene when Akane thought Ranma in girl form was going to kiss her and freaked out. But the "pervert" or "crossdresser" (in the toned-down Viz translation) jabs never struck me the same way because it was obvious Akane was just trying to insult Ranma in retaliation for whatever he just said or did. I think I would have seen it as a bigger problem for the ship if Ranma had a more normal personality where the digs at her girl form would actually sting and make her feel ashamed of it, but luckily s/he has an ego the size of the moon in either form.>But yeah, it's unfortunate if that element is fully taken out. Akane has a good arc where she starts out casually homophobic and worried about being seen as a lesbian. When she meets Tsubasa and thinks she's a lesbian, she's friendly but thinks girls liking girls is something you should outgrow. A hundred chapters later she doesn't care at all about being perceived as a couple with girl Ranma in the cheerleading fight. Finally, when she meets Konatsu, she finds her odd and doesn't really get her deal, but wants to be her friend.That's really interesting and something I'll never notice, I'll have to reread the Konatsu arc. Do you think Ranma goes through a similar evolution? And yeah exactly, I hate it when censorship deprives us of story arcs like this.
>>4317312*I never noticed
>>4317197The issue are posts like this >>4317312 where people start going "ranma is actually a woman" and "akane is totally a lesbian".If you shitters kept it to image dumping it would be less of a problem, but discussing an honest to god hetshit manga on /u/ is just a big no.
>>4317326Why do you care?
>>4317312>Akane was just trying to insult Ranma in retaliationRanma sees it like that too. She gets majorly pissed when Pantyhose Taro calls her an okama and says she won't take that insult from anyone. Then she responds to Akane calling her that with minor protest.Additional Akane data points: After the cheerleading contest, Ryoga accidentally gets Ranma instead of Akane to fall in love with him with a magic fishing rod. Akane thinks Ryoga did it on purpose, is accepting and tells him to confess to Ranma properly.During the Konatsu arc she finds out about her liking Ukyo before she discovers her gender situation. She's surprised and maybe mildly put off, but doesn't make a big deal out of it. In an oddly sweet gesture, when they're running Ucchan's and are trying to appeal to girls, Akane dresses Konatsu up as Oscar from Rose of Versailles.>I'll have to reread the Konatsu arcMake sure to also read the Ucchan's chapter, since it's the only time they properly interact with Konatsu while fully aware of her deal. It's shame she wasn't introduced earlier.>Do you think Ranma goes through a similar evolutionRanma starts out pretty bad in the Tsubasa arc, actively trying to correct "her". He's disgusted by Ryoga after losing the fishing rod mind control, but you can't really blame him and it doesn't come up later. He doesn't really react to Konatsu liking Ukyo, beyond going "but they're both girls".However, Ranma really hits it off with Konatsu later. Unlike Akane, she doesn't seem at all confused about Konatsu. They praise each other's feminine charms and work well together. So well in fact that they make Akane wash the dishes while the two of them get the guys in. After angrily refusing Tsubasa's suggestion that the two of them "share a hobby", it's cute to see Ranma finding a friend she can relate to thanks to her curse.
>>4317856I know what you are, Akane Tendo.
>>4317413There is no "her" or "she. Ranma is a man.And you disgusting creature keep talking about het scenarios, all in the name of justifying your tranny projection of Ranma secretly totally wanting/being a girl when transformed.Not even your justifications belong on /u/, let alone the damn series.
This is worse than Kämpfer and that one had an actual lesbian in it.
>>4317864Maybe you should cry about it more.
>>4317866Telling you that you are fragrantly breaking the rules by talking about het romance on /u/ is not whining. But keep talking. You're just making more clear every time that you are an enemy to this board.
>>4317413>thinks that by calling Ranma with female pronouns that somehow makes him female or makes it fine to talk about himPathetic.
>>4317865Ranma always finds a way to lower the bar. But at least nobody pretends there should be a Kampfer thread in this day and age.
>>4317868it's more pathetic and more weird to think Ranma likes guys if he's in female form.
>>4317865>worse>Rumiko literally doesn't want female Ranma to go and wants her to stay with Akane
>>4317911Not as pathetic as thinking a guy being in love with girls is anything but het, freak.
>>4317912>Rumiko didnt erase the main gag of the series in the end because she didnt give a shit>wants the MALE protag to stay with his love interestHow brave.
>>4317856I wish Ranma's expression looked less goofy at 0:20, it kind of ruined the mood for me.
>>4317953>ignoring how Ranma don't want to kiss a guy and he hates itWeird anon...
>>4317911>>4317912what are you two even arguing about? aren't you on the same side?
DV
>>4318069Naked
>>4317956I suppose this is a good time to note that Takahashi spoke about the ending again in another recent interview. Looks like she did think about it seriously.
>>4318265>I really didn't want female Ranma to disappearWas there a single reader who wanted this?
>>4318266Probably some more conservative readers. Endings where the characters' fun lives come to a close and they settle down as salarymen and housewives are so common someone must like them.I don't know about Japanese comedy, but in the Western tradition a classic comedy would have ended with the curse being healed. The basic pattern is to upend the status quo and then restore it in the end, ideally via marriage.Also, it might just be a translation thing, but Takahashi saying she considered turning Ranma back into a man implies she isn't one currently.
Ukyo in gakuran made me feel things as a supposedly straight kidI-I'm not the only one, right?
This was a random change.
>>4318471Still baffled by what thought process could be behind it.
>>4318272>Endings where the characters' fun lives come to a close and they settle down as salarymen and housewives are so common someone must like them.Fuck, you're right. I just have a hard time imagining those someones loving this manga. >Also, it might just be a translation thing, but Takahashi saying she considered turning Ranma back into a man implies she isn't one currently.I mean, even if you go with the malest possible reading of Ranma's character, he himself has claimed the curse makes him less of a man.
>>4318525Some people insist it's something political, but surely this is a very minor thing compared to the show's other connections to China. Maybe they figured Akane is more of a Smile than China girl, since Ranma's the one connected to China.>>4318555>he himself has claimed the curse makes him less of a man.Yeah, Ranma tends to get upset if people call her a girl, but tends to accept being called a half-girl.
>>4318471Makes sense because Ranma just borrowed some stuffs from Akane, even shorts I think.
>>4318589The China overalls are Akane's too.
>>4318724so you mean it's just coincidence that she likes China eventhough she hasn't visited in that place? ok gotcha
>>4318265You were told a million times, it's because that is the entire gimmick of the manga. It would have been really random to actually cure Ranma. Nothing about this implies she put serious thought into it by the way, you clown.
>>4317973Who gives a shit? Of course a man (Ranma) doesnt want to kiss men. This is completely irrelevant.
>>4318272>but Takahashi saying she considered turning Ranma back into a man implies she isn't one currentlyYou fucking retard, all she said is that he isn't cured of his curse. Of course she considers him a man.HE is a man. A man who is cursed to transform when coming into contact with water, you braindead tranny fuck.
>>4318557HE gets upsets when being called a girl and he never was fine with being called a half girl you delusional fuck.
>>4318982I was wondering whether posting this one too would be overkill, but I'll do it just for you, Trigger-kun. Clearly she thought about keeping Ranma as a woman a lot if she's still talking about how pained she felt about it in interviews 30 years later. None of the interviewers even directly ask her about it.
>>4318983you're asking for a gif where "girl Ranma is almost vomit when she's with the guys" which is weird that you think he's enjoying them if that scene doesn't exist.
>>4318982>gimmick>girl ranma literally calling Akane her fiancee and the two are literally blushingAre we going on circles?
>>4319022Yeah, I don't think Anon is interested in a reasoned discussion.One fun implication of what happened is that girl Ranma now has longer hair than Akane.
>>4319012>interviewer asks about how the ending isn't actually an ending and is just a question mark>ummm they like didn't even ask about Ranma's gender! S-she just brought it up out of nowhere!NTA but you're a fucking retard, and with reading comprehension this bad, it's not hard to see how you're able to maintain this dumb headcanon.
>>4319028Do you know what "directly" means? They ask her about the ending generally and she starts talking about Ranma's gender, instead of, say, Shampoo and Ukyo ruining the wedding or there being no solution to the multiple fiancée problem.
>>4319032>They ask her about the ending generallyNo, you idiot. They ask her specifically about how the ending doesn't quite end>she could have assumed the question was about a single delayed event or an unimportant side plot that has no relevance because he had already chosen, rather than the fucking main bit that has been going on for several hundred chapters since the very first, which she deliberately circumvented resolvingI know that you are not this fucking dumb. Please stop. You are not so low-functioning autistic that you genuinely believe she somehow didn't know what was being asked, and just randomly brought up the fucking central plot point of what the entire manga is about because of some fixation on female identity.The manga is about him being genderbend cursed.He gets denied the cure to that curse at the end.When interviewers point out it doesn't cleanly end, she talks about deciding not to uncurse him.No one believes what is happening here is that she is just so in love with "Ranma identifying as female" that she couldn't bear to have him cured and also goes out of her way to bring it up unprompted. YOU do not genuinely believe that is what is happening, because you're not that fucking retarded. Like every other comedy mangaka of her era, she liked the bit and didn't want to resolve it. You might as well argue that every dumb harem romcom of the time period ending with the love interests still fighting over the MC while the camera pans up was done because the author "really felt like polyamory was crucial to the story and the character's motivations".
>>4319021>everyone who replies to me is the same personI'm the one who asked for sauce of a vomiting scene because I don't remember any such thing from the whole manga.
>>4319042>she somehow didn't know what was being askedSee the context: https://www.furinkan.com/takahashi/takahashi96.htmlShe's not at all above dismissing questions she doesn't feel like answering, like the one about Ranma/Akane's appeal where she just says she liked writing dishonest tsundere dialogue. However, this is a topic she'll answer even when the question is indirect.>she liked the bit and didn't want to resolve itAccusations of my mental retardation aren't very effective when you keep showing worrying signs of illiteracy. That's now three answers where she talks about how curing Ranma would have been the expected, "proper" ending, but she couldn't bear to do it because it would mean basically killing girl Ranma. She clearly doesn't see leaving Ranma cursed as the obvious ending.>she is just so in love with "Ranma identifying as female"No one's said that. The argument was that Takahashi sees the girl form as more than just a disguise or a burden to Ranma.
>>4319025even better >girl ranma is shorter than akane>girl ranma is smaller waisted and bigger boobed than akane>girl ranma is still stronger than akane
>>4318291best scene in the manga/anime
>>4318992now i wanna read a Ranma time travel fanfiction
>insists he is a man even when in female form and won't wear women's clothing>consistently displays noticeably more feminine and cuter mannerisms whenever in girl formWhat did early-series Ranma mean by this?
>>4319651The mind is a plaything of the body.
>>4319041best scene in the manga>>4320353very hot
>>4319651That crossdressing men have a fetish for acting girly. Next.
>>4319141It's not from the manga but it tells you that he's not interested with the guys, use your head you weird fuck.
>>4319607Nah, that's something involving Nabiki being a psychopath, possibly the time she sold girl Ranma to the Triads. The best yuri scene is the cheerleading fight.
Like the old anime, Mappa also decided to give Ranma eyeshadow with the curse. Interesting choice, since going by the trailer the only other woman to wear it is Shampoo.
>>4322532>Get a girlfriend>Cut your hair short>Grope herGood going, Akane.
Anyone has a webm of episode 3's piggyback scene?
>>4322532Wh-what did she mean by this?This move is so gigabrained that I apparently erased it from my memory until today. Genuinely cannot decide if this means >so super straight that she can't see any sexual implications in grabbing a girl's naked tit>very, very repressed homosexuality that needs an out I don't see a middle ground here
The major change from the manga this week is in the flashback where li'l Akane is getting patched up by Dr. Tofu. In the original, Kasumi scolds Akane for being too boyish and tells her she should start acting more like a girl or Dr. Tofu will dislike her. This is definitely a cut that flattens the story rather than fixing anything. The original clearly presents Kasumi as having been wrong, since the point of the haircut is that being tomboyish is more comfortable and natural to Akane. It also makes Kasumi a bit more interesting as a character, since otherwise she's just this angel of the house figure. They did keep the outro joke where the Tendos are blasé about Ranma seemingly trying to rape Akane.Also, after all those lesbian Ranma fics where Genma's the final boss, I like how in canon he thinks he caught girl Ranma in a compromising situation with a naked boy and just excuses himself.>>4322681The other fiancées each get a scene where they turn Ranma male before trying to have a love scene. Akane never does that and gets romantic scenes with both forms. Bisexual Akane is a very, very easy interpretation to make.
>>4322919>gets romantic scenes with both formsnow that's some BS.I read through this entire manga once upon a time and there really weren't any worth mentioning.
>>4322923Mappa's just five episodes in and they've already animated a couple.
>>4322924At this point in the story, Ranma and Akane don't even really like each other yet, certainly not in a romantic sense, so I don't know what "moments" you are seeing lol.
>>4322930The "there's nothing queer about Ranma ½" people aren't sending their best.
>>4322931>there's nothing queer about Ranma ½But there isn't?The author repeatedly hammers home that men should act like men and women should act like women, Ranma trying to act as a female is seen as perversion, because he is a male regardless of what the looks like.And in the few times gay stuff comes up it's uniformly treated as deviancy and not something normal.
>>4322941Yup, not their best.
>>4322930>having to resort to denying Rankane tsundere falling in loveYou know, even as a yurifag, I didn't see any yuri undertones on my first read. You're doing a better job than actual yurifags of convincing me I was wrong.
>>4322961It's kind of a moot point since Ranma is a guy, so "yuri" cannot really exist between them anyway.
>>4322919Very nice analysis of the change and I agree totally. "Flattens" is an apropos description, and good point about the rare development of Kasumi's character. Just to add to what you said, the cut lines from the original also make Akane's series-long insecurity about her supposed unfemininity seem less arbitrary (considering that no one else except Ranma gives her any shit for it most of the time). Kasumi is the closest thing she's had to a mother figure since a young age, and having her beloved, almost angelic sister who's been her protector all her life being the one to push traditional gender roles on her is going to make someone like Akane internalize her "inadequacy" much more than hearing it from some hypothetical outsider.It says something (which gets lost in the remake) that even after hearing Kasumi say this, Akane's thought isn't about wanting to become more like a girl, it's about wanting to become more like Kasumi.You could even credit Ranma for fixing this situation. Ranma's shitstirring takes the "you don't act like a girl" sentiment out of Kasumi's realm of "loving parenting from someone she can't reject" to "petty insults and catfighting from someone who deserves a hammer to the head" territory, which is where Akane is equipped to reject it out of hand. Plus, Akane does realize on some level that Ranma in either form deep down thinks she's cute and attractive just the why she is. >Also, after all those lesbian Ranma fics where Genma's the final boss, I like how in canon he thinks he caught girl Ranma in a compromising situation with a naked boy and just excuses himself.Kek, hilarious. Genma also contemplated selling girl Ranma to Picolet for food. Maybe he'd be less enthusiastic about a lesbian marriage for Ranma since that wouldn't be legally enforceable for ¥¥¥¥.
>>4323082Good analysis. Kasumi's role here also precedes Nodoka, who's also traditionally feminine and kind and also willing to police gender with a sword.Kasumi accepts Akane for who she is by the present day, though. Instead of getting any of the men in the house to handle the presumed burglar, she lets Akane deal with him after handing her a better weapon. She probably didn't even think very deeply about what she told Akane then and was just trying to correct bad behavior. It just left a deep impression on Akane.>"petty insults and catfighting from someone who deserves a hammer to the head" territory, which is where Akane is equipped to reject it out of handThat's good. It also probably helps that Ranma's gender troubles are so much more severe than hers that it's impossible to take the criticism seriously. Probably makes her look a lot more conventional to her social circle too.
>>4323004The idea of “yurifags” watching ranma is kinda funny if you think of the whiplash, one second female ranma is on screen and they’re happy watching yuri, the next second male ranma is on screen and they’re angry watching het.
>>4323265>long-haired Akanesurely you have some later examples than that?
>>4323386Context: Ranma has been modelocked.I think this might be the origin of the fanfic trope of Shampoo calling everyone by nicknames. It's very cute and funny, but not actually how she speaks.
>>4323400I don't really get what you're trying to point out with that page, Shampoo calls lesbians perverted and Akane doesn't exactly disagree.
>>4323414People in-universe think Akane's gay for stuff like >>4317856
>>4323414I mean, it's normal to say disagree because it's not nice?
>>4323423But Akane herself doesn't think that, because to her Ranma is a man regardless of the curse. Like the whole point in the manga is that people who don't know Ranma think he is some crossdressing pervert, whereas the ones that are actually familiar with him treat him as a man regardless of what form he is in, because that's what the is.The Nodoka storyline pretty much ended with that revelation.
>>4323438You aren't meant to take Nodoka's ideas about gender seriously. She accepts Ranma as a man for saving her life, but Akane saves Ranma's life plenty of times. Does that make her a man?Nodoka's also overjoyed about Ranma supposedly harassing Akane sexually because that's manly. Even after accepting Ranma, she reaches for her sword when she sees something as normal as Ranma being sad about being separated from Akane. If she saw half the things Ranma does in girl form, she'd absolutely make her kill herself.
>>4323447I don't really get what you are trying to say here. My whole point is Ranma is a man regardless of what form he happens to be in, because that's what he identifies as and that's how he acts. So there is in fact no yuri possibly between Ranma and Akane because both of them believe he is male even if he doesn't appear to be one at times.
>>4323450But Ranma doesn't act like a guy in girl form. She flirts shamelessly, goes on dates with boys, wears cute and sexy clothes, cries when someone steals her first kiss and gets angry if you insult her looks. Akane getting mad at her for acting too girly is a pretty common gag.>But he just does that stuff to get something!The manga's set in the early eighties, so Ranma and Akane would be in their early fifties now. How many straight guys that age do you know who'd be willing to flirt with another man to get a bigger portion at a restaurant?
>>4323450>because that's what he identifies asReaders aren't obliged to "respect self-identification" for a fictional character, especially if it goes against other narrative indicators.
Don't know what's wrong with that when Akane literally teasing female Ranma asking if she likes her, Akane doesn't really mind his form.
>>4323507What other narrative indications, the ones where he changes back into a guy every episode
I'm surprised that everyone here ignored the fact that Ranma uses old GB themes in combination with 80s ecchi romcom shenanigans,When we talk about old GB themes most of the time we talk about a male/female character being genderbended to experience the hardships of being a person of the opposite sex, so every "girly" thing Ranma does is part of that narrative, not because he's trans or likes to be a woman.
>>4323613Who’s this “we” that talk about GB themes?
>>4323613In Ranma's case the genderbend is mostly for fanservice or comedy, since he can pretend to be a woman for only a brief time before getting too disgusted to keep up the charade.
>>4323628He's not even disgusted when pretending to be Ukyo's girlfriend
>>4323613>male/female character being genderbended to experience the hardships of being a person of the opposite sexThat's not really what happens in Ranma. She sometimes has to deal with sexual harassment, but it's not really a major theme, and boy Ranma gets his share from the insane girls in his life. She doesn't really encounter other kinds of sexism and the manga doesn't go into stuff like periods, though she probably does have them.>>4323628>getting too disgusted to keep up the charadeName one time that happens in the manga.
>>4323631>it's not really a major themeThat's why I said that the show uses old GB themes. Ranma is mostly a romcom so everything will be used for laughs or to develop the romance between the leads, and yes "I'll love you no matter your sex" and "I'll love you no matter my sex" are part of that narrative. Not yuri btw.
>>4323414>I don't really get what you're trying to point out with that pageSome people here argue that Akane always thinks of Ranma as male so their cute moments in girl form aren't yuri at all. But if Akane always thinks of Ranma as male there's no reason she'd be aware that she's at risk of being labeled a pervert (lesbian) for being with Ranma.
>>4323646They’re not yuri because one of the participants is a shape shifting dude you retard
>>4323635>"I'll love you no matter your sex" and "I'll love you no matter my sex"Okay, but no one ever says anything like that in Ranma, and the other fiancées explicitly aren't attracted to girl Ranma. So not the strongest reading you've got there.
>>4323697>Okay, but no one ever says anything like that in Ranma>What's subtext?>and the other fiancées explicitly aren't attracted to girl RanmaThey don't matter, just like in any other harem the first girl always wins.
>>4323704It's not like Akane is into Ranma's gender-bending either. When he fake acts being a girl to get free shit she is disgusted by it, and the few moments where she shows some kind of attraction towards Ranma while he is in female form is when he does something noble and "manly".
>>4323704>They don't matterIt shows the manga is operating under the assumption that most girls aren't attracted to other girls' bodies, regardless of the person inside. This is not a difficult concept.>>4323708Akane dislikes it for the same reason she dislikes seeing Ranma in romantic situations with Shampoo. When she's the one receiving the girly flirting, she likes it >>4312121.
>>4323708>When he fake acts being a girl to get free shit she is disgusted by itAnyone would be disgusted if someone that you're dating, either male or female, does that.>the few moments where she shows some kind of attraction towards Ranma while he is in female form is when he does something noble and "manly".Another proof that this isn't yuri but that just means that Akane can feel attracted to his female form too but it follows the same "I love you even if you changed your sex" logic because Akane didn't show any atraction to other female characters.
>>4323720>it follows the same "I love you even if you changed your sex" logic because Akane didn't show any atraction to other female characters.Did she show any attraction to other male characters? Other than Tofu, which is so chaste you can easily headcanon it away as deluding herself wanting to be like Kasumi.
>>4323717>It shows the manga is operating under the assumption that most girls aren't attracted to other girls' bodies, regardless of the person insideYes and that's the "romantic" part because that's something reserved to.the first girl.
>>4323746There's a guy called Shinnosuke she sort of likes, but it's also very chaste. She and Ranma are both kind of prudish and don't show much overt attraction to anyone. The horniest Akane ever gets is in her dreams in the chapter where Happosai's incense makes her fall asleep.Akane having an awkward crush on Shampoo would be a great gag, though.
>>4323651for you
Cute
>>4325088in which chapter does this happen?
>>4325550One of the last ones.
>>4326320Did not expect this art style to deliver this much wholesome love, day made
>>4326320I like their relationship. One's good and the other evil, but they seem to get along well and are usually on the same page about everything.
lol, they took out the red star from Ranma's cap.
>>4327064her sisters are ok that Akane might be into girls
>>4327064Thank you for proving you're a crossboarding faggot
>>4327086There's a scene in episode 36 of the old anime where Nabiki tells Ranma to stop looking for a cure because this way they'll have a more interesting married life.
>>4316080>The more interesting decision would have been to really confront it and emphasize the LGBT themes and subtextNo I'd rather have them remove some stuff so they don't get in trouble than see them do rewrites for the kind of people who say "heterosexist" instead of "homophobic" >>4316102
>>4327200>the kind of people who say "heterosexist" instead of "homophobic"Curious, what kind of people do you think that is?
>>4322919>>4327305I wonder how Ranma did learn to apply make-up, since she seems to wear it as part of her disguises and sometimes in illustrations. Youtube tutorials don't exist yet, Akane probably wouldn't want to do it and Nabiki would charge and then probably blackmail her about it. I guess that leaves Kasumi or teen girl magazines?
>>4327305this is very cute!
>>4316431>and is later outright ecstatic when she finds out her breasts are still growing.I was rereading that arc, and it's funny how even in the parts where Ranma is in male form he still has obvious female brain. Ranma pretty much has to have it pointed out by other people that it hurts Akane to hear "I don't want to see your boobs" from her fiancé, and even then, doesn't seem to register the implications. When he tries to make Akane feel better by telling her he'll look at her boobs if she wants him to, he's confused about why she reacts like he's a huge pervert. Even in boy form, his own idea for how to make up with Akane is to tell her that having big boobs isn't that great because it causes back pain. You'd think a straight "man at all times" like certain anons claim Ranma is would be a little quicker to make the breasts=desirability connection and a little less stuck on the breast-envy mindset.
>>4327778It's actually pretty simple. Ranma likes Akane the way she is, he doesn't think she needs bigger boobs because she is cute already.
>>4327778And in the same arc Ranma's ready to make out only when she thinks Akane's making the first move. And for all her principled refusal to wear women's underwear, she sure seems to like that bra she's trying on.The Nodoka story is pretty sad. She senses that there's something about "Ranko" and builds a connection with her doing girl things, which they both enjoy. But instead of building on that, she tries to force Ranma to abandon all that and act like the world's worst man.
>>4329475>doesn't want a degenerate tranny crossdresser as a soni dunno, she sounds pretty based to me
Fun episode. This is the first weird martial art duel in the series and Mappa did it justice.I don't think there were any edits for social issues this time. The commentator guy is an anime original character who also appeared in the Ryoga fight and here replaces a female commentator from St. Bacchus's. The wash basin gag was added by Mappa. The fight itself de-emphasizes Akane, who isn't shown throwing Ranma the weapons and gets help from Genma in using the fire hose, which she operates alone in the manga.I wonder where they'll go with that. One of the nice things about the manga is how it always has Akane contributing to the fights, even when she's been kidnapped.
>>4329521by definition that's the opposite of based
Not much Kodachi yuri, sadly.
I don't even know who the fuck this is.
>>4327793Sure, but that doesn't mean he can't grasp the concept of girls being insecure about being unattractive. Ranma as a girl has a huge complex about that herself. In the bust size arc, Ranma learns it was the "I don't want to see your boobs" comment that set Akane off. But he keeps thinking Akane understood that comment as meaning "as your bigger-boobed breast rival, people in general don't want to look at your boobs, because they're inferior to mine". That's why he tries to make up by offering to look at her boobs in a non-sexual reassuring way (he's confused when she does take it as sexual) and telling her that having bigger boobs doesn't feel that great. It never occurs to Ranma that Akane was putting him in the role of "man scoring woman on how sexy she is to him" instead of "girly rival competing over breast size" and interpreted his comment from that pov. It comes across like he forgot he's supposed to be a guy.
>>4329475>And for all her principled refusal to wear women's underwear, she sure seems to like that bra she's trying on.Top left face in pic related is super interesting. Maybe it was supposed to be "so done with this", but the way it's drawn with the sultry eyelids looks like an "indulging in my dirty little secret" face.>And in the same arc Ranma's ready to make out only when she thinks Akane's making the first move.In het romances, "It's okay. If this is what you want, I'm willing to give it to you! [blush] [heart thumping sfx]" is definitely a line you would expect the girl to say to the guy.
>>4330432>Top left face in pic related is super interestingIndeed. I don't necessarily see it as sultry, but she's definitely intrigued. Like she could have just picked one bra at random and had Nodoka buy it. There's no need to try multiple ones (the one she plans to try next is in the crook of her arm), or pose to see how it looks so carefully. She definitely isn't in hell.
Interesting interview with Megumi Hayashibara: https://www.furinkan.com/features/interviews/megumihayashibara2.html>However, in the second half of the anime, Ranma slowly changes and even starts to enjoy being a girl, whereas in the first half, he seemed to have a strong feeling of 'I'm a boy'.>But during this recording, when I heard Nonko-san (Noriko Hidaka) say, "I'm glad you're a girl," I thought, 'Whoa, she's insanely cute!'" This was a feeling that had nothing to do with [male] Ranma or [female] Ranma, but rather that he emerged as a single character."
Artist: @samipekoe on twitter
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